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Radical campaign for real change in this country. I look forward to campaigning ina this country. I look forward to campaigning in a general election all over the country. Now, the wrangling in the house of commons is over what day the public will vote. Meanwhile, 10 of the 21 tory mps expelled by the conservative party have personally been invited back into the fold by Prime Ministerjohnson. A warm welcome to viewers here in the uk and around the world. The United Kingdom is heading towards its first december general election in almost a century as mps finally agree to the Prime Ministers call to go to the polls. The conservatives, labour, Scottish National party and liberal democrats have all come out in favour of holding that december poll. This is borisjohnsons fourth attempt to call a snap election and crucially, its the first time the labour party has removed its objections. As ever with brexit there are still question marks and the path to an early election is not a forgone conclusion but it should be decided when mps vote again this evening. Lets head to the central lobby in the houses of parliament and speak to my colleague vicki young. Lets talk about these ten mps who have brought back into the fold by conservatives. This is the news we have had in the last half hour. The lanes that are not on that list are quite significant. Names. These are the mps that had their party whip taken away from them. That essentially means they are not conservative in the house of commons. That is because they voted for the benn act which was the law that forced Boris Johnson is for the benn act which was the law that forced borisjohnson is ask for the benn act which was the law that forced Boris Johnson is ask for another delay to brexit. They were booted out of the parliamentary party. There were given away back m, party. There were given away back in, if they voted for certain things it may happen. Then this evening ten of them did meet with the Prime Minister in his officejust of them did meet with the Prime Minister in his office just round the corner and were offered that route back into the party which they accepted. It means those that will stand in the next election can stand as conservatives rather than independence. As you say there are 11 others. One of them has defected to the liberal democrats so he wont be looking for a return but there are other big names, people like philip hammond. He has said he will stand as an independent. I dont think he would be brought back into the party. We are told it doesnt mean it wont happen for some of the others but there is a process to follow and some of them havent followed it. We will have to wait and see in the next couple of days whether any more brought back in but for some of them like ken clarke, beenin for some of them like ken clarke, been in the party for more than 50 yea rs, been in the party for more than 50 years, ending his careerand been in the party for more than 50 years, ending his career and at the moment ending its not as a conservative mp. Lets lets talk about the bill that has been fast tracked through parliament. What votes will be get this evening . We are near the end of this. It is more detailed look at the bill. It is a short and simple bill saying that the election should be held on the 12th of december but as with everything that has happened over the last three years this is not proving to be completely straightforward. Labour has tabled an amendment which would make the election and the 9th of december. The government so they dont understand why the labour wanted to be the ninth. They say there are logistical problems. Returning officers have said that it is difficult to prepare polling stations over the weekend, meaning you have to find staff and not as many are available on a sunday. There are some practical problems but i dont think it will mean the government decides to pull the whole idea. They did themselves they didnt themselves come forward with a compromise that looks like it will be either the night or the 12th of december. Vicki, thank you very much. Lets bring in our panel , with me now is katy balls , deputy Political Editor at the spectator, laura trott former adviser to theresa may, now at portland communicatins, and miatta fahnbullah, former adviser to ed miliband, now chief executive of the new economics foundation. On that point that vicki just finished with there. Why is there amendment down for monday the ninth . That is a good question. We are wrangling about the date stop for those that are pushing for the ninth, in part they are arguing that the student vote is a really important component of this. Students break up from university and so it is much better to do it while they are in their home campuses. The original logic behind the ninth was that some of the opposition parties were worried it would give the government enough time to ram through borisjohnsons Withdrawal Agreement bill. He said he wouldnt do that so you kind of wonder why we are quibbling over a matter of a few days. There are two other amendments we are expecting. One was giving the vote to 16 to 18 year olds and others to give the vote to eu nationals who are registered to vote in the uk. Those have gone by the bite so presumably the government could live with an amendment like this one. The bigger worry for government was those other two amendments. They have been ruled outside the scope but there was a sense that we heard from government officials that they might have withdrawn the bill if it was open to eu nationals. You do get a sense in these handful of days, this is not these handful of days, this is not the ditch that borisjohnson these handful of days, this is not the ditch that Boris Johnson will die in although we have had those words before. It does end up being a bit of a much of a muchness. Even university dates, some of them are open. 70 of them voted at home in the last election anyway. Do get the sense that the government would prefer the 12th. Lets talk about this list. The ten names back in there. You pointed out to me before we came on air the one that has not been invited back as david gauke the form ofjustice been invited back as david gauke the form of justice secretary been invited back as david gauke the form ofjustice secretary who did vote for the timetable. So surely he climbed a ladder last week and he should be back in . Yes, the majority of the 21 tory rebels did vote for the Prime Ministers withdrawal bill with only three that didnt. These ten have been readmitted for the conservative party voted for a timetable. Poor david gauke also voted for this but he has not been let in and it is a mystery as to why. Why might that be . It is a series of votes and you need to go through how they all voted on. The let to an amendment is being taken into account. What was supposed to be Super Saturday and then fell flat when they thought they would have a meaningful vote and it got moved in they had to do it next week, also looking at the second reading. The mps they have picked as a general sense that this group have been the most loyal on a regular basis compared to others. I do think david gauke is someone that lots of conservative mps feel should be in the tory party. I think other names missing from that list that ive been invited back is philip hammond, i dont think that is a big surprise. There is a sense of the beaucoup of those two there is a sense that the bulk of those on the list have not listened to what number 10 has been saying. Fun and games on the labour mp backbenchers. I saw that the whips were going to rule against the vote even though the leadership said they wanted the election. Clearly labour have been divided by this election. The mps who dont want an election. The mps who dont want an election say the argument is that brexit is unresolved, a general election doesnt resolve brexit and the only way you resolve that is to ta ke the only way you resolve that is to take it back to the people and have a referendum on that specific issue. Lots of issues come into play in a referendum. It is really messy. They wa nt referendum. It is really messy. They want to deal with brexit and then have an election. But as soon as the lib dems and the snp were clearly going to vote for this bill it became untenable for the leadership not to come behind it because they would go into an election rather looking like you are dragged into it rather than fronting up to it. The conservative manifesto was kryptonite in 2017. A lot of conservative mps will want to know what is this one. Yes, that has been spelt out already. I was responsible for the 2015 manifesto. So you dont carry any blame for the last one . No. In 2015, we had a long time for build up. It was stress tested and focus group and polled to death. They havent had the same amount of time here but they have been very focused. I think although it has been a shorter time they are in a good space. The manifestos in 2017 look quite similar when it came to break but this time they will look very different. Yes, they are. I think for labour they will try and sell their argument which is the way we get three brexit is to have a credible version of leaving which doesnt tank the economy and then we leave it to the British Public to decide the right course of action. The key thing for labour is they dont want to fight the selection on brexit. They wanted to be about the big issues that quite frankly the public are desperate to talk about, the economy not working for everyone , the economy not working for everyone, the housing crisis, the climate emergency, all big issues. Does any of that get solved if you dont solve brexit . We have seen that you have to solve the big issue first, havent you . Yes and no. I would argue that the general election doesnt solve brexit. We will have a general election and we will have a general election and we will still be wrangling about the future relationship. The country cannot afford another three years we re cannot afford another three years were all the big issues have been put to one side. I think this election in the end wontjust be about brexit. It cantjust be about brexit because the stakes are too high. | brexit because the stakes are too high. I would disagree with that to a certain extent. It shows so far that people will vote in terms of the referendum. There will be a number of target seats for the conservatives. I picked up a few weeks ago that die hard labour voters who were levers in stoke, some of them would vote for the conservatives but many of them would rather vote for the brexit party because it didnt have the same baggage. I dont think the conservative party see that as a bad thing. I think they would rather labour voters switched to the tory party but if they switch to the brexit party and not labour that helps the tories. Does it help them to win some of these brexit labour seats . It is tricky but what is worse for the tories is if they have tory voters go to the brexit party. You can voters actually helped the tories in some areas in 2017 because labour voters went to them. Is it leave remain access . In which case the tories focus on brexit could work out very well for them because they keep on moving away from tribal allegiances. Or is it still left right and tribalism will go over that . I think that is what we will see in the manifesto with labour focusing on domestic issues and tories focusing on the realignment we we re tories focusing on the realignment we were heading towards on 2017 the didnt come off. Thank you very much for coming. Interesting to hear your thoughts this evening. We are waiting on a vote for the only amendment put this evening. Principally one that would change the date from the 12th to the ninth. The Prime Minister says the only way now to get brexit done is to refresh parliament with the general election. The last vote in 2017 ended with a Hung Parliament and the conservatives have governed with a minority since then. So where will this election will be won and lost . Our deputy Political Editorjohn pienaar takes a look at the key battlegrounds ahead of the vote. Almost nothing about british politics is easily predictable right now. An awful lot could change between now and the day we make our next trip to the polls. Lets take a look at the current state of the parties. The conservatives have 288 mp5, labour 244. There are 35 independents, many of them former conservatives. Many of them former conservatives. The snp have 35, and the lib dems 19. No party comes close to the 326 needed for an overall majority. In the 2017 election, the two main parties dominated. The tories taking 43 and labour a1 of the vote. Compare that to how the parties are polling now. The conservatives are averaging somewhere around 36 , and labour 24 in recent polls. Now, lets take a look at the electoral map for 2017. The tories blew a big lead in the polls and ended up the largest party, but relying on the dup for a majority. The next election could be even more unpredictable. The uks divided at least as much between leave and remain as between the parties, and that could well influence the result. If the polls were reflected in an election now and voters switched parties evenly across the country, the tories could be on course for an absolute majority, but it wont be that simple. It never is. The tories will focus on winning voters in leave voting areas. In their top 50 labour held targets, 39 voted leave. Places like stoke on trent north 72 leave, blackpool south 68 , dagenham 70 leave. But the tories could lose seats to other parties, places like stirling and gordon in scotland could go snp. Cheltenham, southport and winchester to the liberal democrats. They could lose votes, although maybe not seats, to Nigel Farages brexit party, which could hand seats to other parties. The lib dems will fight as the uks main anti brexit party, and that could help them in heavily remain supporting areas like london. But labours hoping, as in 2017, they can turn round the polls in the run up to voting, and Jeremy Corbyn will hope his promises to pump investment into Public Services excite voters more than Boris Johnsons rival pledges, to invest in the nhs and schools, and clamp on crime. Itll be cold, itll be dark. Will that put off older voters broadly keen on brexit . Will Younger Voters turn out . They are mostly remainers. Another Hung Parliament, another stalemate really cant be ruled out. And as for the main candidates for pm, Jeremy Corbyn is a seasoned campaigner, but so is borisjohnson. Itll be an election unlike any weve seen before. Some of the target seats we will look at the next few weeks or so. We we re look at the next few weeks or so. We were talking about the mps who were welcomed back into the fold by the Prime Minister. Lets head to the central lobby in the houses of parliament and speak to my colleague vicki young. That is right. The mps had voted for the benn act, the act of parliament which forster promised us asked eu for a delay. They had the whip taken away from them meaning they were effectively no longer conservative mps but now they have been brought back into the fold. Lets speak to ed vaizey. How did this happen was back this coming together of mps and borisjohnson . Back this coming together of mps and Boris Johnson . It is important to stress that not all the mps who voted for the benn act have been allowed back. Half of us have had the whip restored. He wanted to unify the party with an election round the corner. He offered us the whip back. It was a good natured discussion and to a certain extent those of us who have the whip bank are those of us who have voted with the conservative party for the last few weeks. Some have been more rebellious if i could put it that way. I voted against the government on one issue which was to stop no deal. I wasnt interested in having fights with the government on other issues so that is probably why people like me have got the whip back. I hope others will get the whip back but at the moment. M back. I hope others will get the whip back but at the moment. It is looking important because in the next election you will be able to stand as a conservative candidate rather than an independent. Some are saying that is important for Boris Johnson when it comes to a tight election. That is right. It would be interesting to see if a conservative candidate would win in my seat if it wasnt me. I think they would have a certain chance of winning. It sounds superficial to your viewers but there is a family feel about the conservative party and if youve got somebody like Nicholas Soames who has been an mp for years who is retiring without the whip that leaves a very bad feeling for many mps but it is clearly in the Prime Ministers interest have as many of us ministers interest have as many of us rebels back on board and rowing roughly in the same direction as him ina general roughly in the same direction as him in a general election rather than if he hadnt restored the whip whether they might stand as independents. Obviously Boris Johnson they might stand as independents. Obviously borisjohnson have a deal which helps people like you who want to leave with a deal but if he has to leave with a deal but if he has to put it in that manifesto his wedding to pursue no deal what would you do then . That is the 6 million question or perhaps the £100 billion question or perhaps the £100 billion question depending on what you think the impact of no deal would be. That isa the impact of no deal would be. That is a real problem. The Prime Minister said if is a real problem. The Prime Ministersaid ifi is a real problem. The Prime Minister said if i would support his deal if i get the whip back. Yes, i have always supported his deal and i have always supported his deal and i have done already. Do i want to stand with the prospect of no deal hanging over the country . No, stand with the prospect of no deal hanging overthe country . No, i stand with the prospect of no deal hanging over the country . No, i do not. I cant do a u turn and pretend lam not. I cant do a u turn and pretend i am somehow in favour of no deal if we run out of road. The whole thing have been so divisive. We have seen it across all the parties. It must have been particularly difficult to find yourself in there but not sitting as a conservative mp. People like ken clarke who obviously wont be brought back into the party, somebody who has been chancellor, home secretary and is leaving at the end of a long career but not as a conservative mp. I found that it was very divisive and very annoying. I have been an active conservative for 35 years. I have been an active conservative much longer than some of the people in cabinet at the moment and to be told that somehow you are not a conservative or to be disloyal particularly when half the cabinet voted regularly against theresa may when she was Prime Minister was incredibly irritating and annoying so in a sense i feel justice has been done by restoring the whip but i dont think it should ever have been taken away from parliamentarian simply trying to do their best to navigate away through brexit that doesnt cause ridiculous damage to the country. Ed vaizey, thank you very much indeed. We are not too far away from a vote now on that amendment, probably the main one on the 9th of december for an election. That will start happening in about 30 minutes. Vicki, thank you very much for that and thank you to ed vaizey as well. Talking to our panel a few minutes ago about ma nifestos panel a few minutes ago about manifestos and tactics and which way the parties will be going so lets introduce you to three people who will take a close interest in that. Because they are candidates, in fact challengers in the three seats they are standing in. Joining me now is seena shah, conservative candidate for brentford and isleworth, faiza shaheen, labour candidate for chingford and woodfood green and sarah olney , liberal democrat candidate for Richmond Park. Welcome to you all. A lot of us know Zac Goldsmith and you are standing against him. He only has a majority of a5. What we say on the doorstep . It is straightforward for me, i am representing the liberal democrats, the largest remain Party Standing in this election. Richmond park voted overwhelmingly to remain. Zac is a very committed brexiteer so our message will be very clear, vote for us message will be very clear, vote for us to stop brexit. But they have been very loyal to Zac Goldsmith. Other tactical voting which might go on . They havent been that loyal. I beat him three years ago. We have seenin beat him three years ago. We have seen in the by election that brexit matters a great deal and not wanting to remain in the European Union matters a great deal to people in wanting to remain in the European Union matters a great deal to people in Richmond Park. Do you look to the labour candidate and say, look, and we can win this seat and take it for remain. I would encourage anybody in Richmond Park who wants to see the end of this tory government to vote liberal democrat in this election. You are running against iain duncan smith, it is normally a remain seat, isnt it . Just about. Can you go out with a manifesto that straddles two positions and win a seat from someone like that . One of the things that is really clear when you knock on doors in my home seat is how little brexit comes up. It is important and people do bring it up but things that constantly come up is that every single one of our primary and secondary schools have had cuts, people are worried about their kids, a lack of housing and affordable housing. So you wont be talking about brexit . Brexit isnt everything. So do you win if you can talk about issues but to lose if it is about brexit . It is a general election. We need to talk about brexit and im happy to talk about that but we need to think about the next five years, we have seen cuts to our Public Services and the Biggest Issue that comes up for us is crime, knife crime, all of those things have gone up, what do we do to tackle those issues . That is what i will to tackle those issues . That is what i will fight to tackle those issues . That is what i will fight on, how we build a Better Society and that is where labour policies really come through. You are in brentford and isa worth which is an interesting constituency because chiswick voted to remain but other parts of the borough voted to leave. You have to tailor the message you take to the doorstep . No. My message is loud and clear. I voted leave. If they want to vote to stay in the eu they can vote for the liberal democrats. Im just going to pause you there. We will say goodbye to our viewers on bbc four. If you wa nt to to our viewers on bbc four. If you want to keep watching watch some bbc news. We carry on. If they want to deliver brexit and have a positive way forward once brexit has been delivered they need to vote for the conservatives. Voting for the labour party is more delay, more dither and so it is a really clear choice for me. Would you accept that remain voters will face some fairly awkward choices . Leave voters seem to be looking at the conservatives. Our liberal democrats and labour fighting for the same voters and is that a problem . I dont think so. People who really want to remain in the European Union for who opposing brexit is there main priority. I i havent found that in my area. People understand i am they remain candidate and most people find revoke a step too far and they want a second referendum they want us to renegotiate a brexit deal which doesnt deliver us a hard brexit. Labour does offer both remainers and leave something. The overwhelming message im getting from voters everywhere is that they want to bring brexit to a conclusion. They are attracted to the liberal democrats because we are very clear. The labour party it isjust, we will negotiate another deal and then put it to another vote. Will negotiate another deal and then put it to another vote. Another referendum was literally your policy a few days ago. It still is our policy but because the labour party had not voted for it time and time again, so many opportunities to vote for it. Time has run out. This is the point im making. The division on the remain side is an interesting issue when it comes the vote. You are contesting for many of the same voters. I wonder that splits the voters. I wonder that splits the vote on the remain side . On paper labour is offering a second referendum and we will go out and argue that it has been 3. 5 years going round in circles, lets put a credible vote to the people. Are you going to respect the result of that referendum . Going to respect the result of that referendum . You going to respect the result of that referendum . You have respected the last one you havent respected the last one. That goes for both of you. Why does anyone believe you would respect the vote of the next one . People will say that there is a deal, why are we having a general election . We have tried to deliver the deal and deliver borisjohnsons better deal and we havent got the arithmetic in parliament to get that through unamended. It has to be unamended. How can you go back to the eu and get them to make even more changes to a deal they have already spent so much time deliberating over. It is unrealistic. What about your ma nifesto . Unrealistic. What about your manifesto . You say richmond is a predominantly remain area, i live in your constituency and i talk to people, and people say they are uncomfortable about the line in your ma nifesto uncomfortable about the line in your manifesto which would cancel or revoke article 50 without a referendum. I understand that but we have been pushing for a second referendum for over three years and there simply arent the votes in this parliament for that second referendum. Labour are much too late to the party behind the situation where a general election has to be called to resolve the situation one way or the other. What i would say is that the referendum took place 3. 5 years ago. Time has moved on in the world has moved on. Would people make the same decision today . Why should we be bound to a decision we made 3. 5 years ago . I would say it has got to be about more thanjust brexit, it has to be about other policies and the problem is that the conservatives and lib dems have is that what is there policies on climate and health . Nobody trusts borisjohnson on the nhs. Climate and health . Nobody trusts Boris Johnson on the nhs. That is not true. When i go onto the doorstep people love brexit. Thats my beloved boris. Best of luck and thank you very much. The pre christmas vote will be the third general election in five years. And its the first december poll since 1923. Experts think the winter conditions will have little impact on the turn out but what do voters think about this snap election . Our Political Correspondent alex forsyth has been to worcester a narrow conservative marginal which voted to leave in the 2016 referendum to get the voters view. Halloween was meant to be brexit day, but with that idea laid to rest, westminster could now turn to the country, asking people to unpick the tangle that politicians cant. At saint peters Garden Centre on the edge of worcester, the director is resigned to a possible election to try to break the logjam but fears it could mean continued uncertainty. I think its probably necessary so that whoever is in control can actually have a commanding authority. I definitely dont want it to go on for any longer than is absolutely necessary, because its so frustrating from a business perspective. Many people are now craving some sort of brexit resolution. While some hope an election might help, others are disillusioned. No matter who gets in, they decided a long time ago that they didnt want brexit, and ive never not voted, but im not voting for any of them. What we need more than a general election is a peoples vote on brexit. I think a general election at the moment is a distraction. Thats the warning from mps who want a second referendum first, fearing an election would confuse the arguments. Others worry about a poll so close to christmas. Its cold. People are going to be doing other things. I dont think people are going to have time to make up their minds. The timing isnt the best time, but we have to go for a general election, because itsjust getting even more complicated, and i think this might finally, you know, sort it out. At this toy shop in the city centre, there is a similar view. The owner, who imports products from europe, thinks the public could force politicians into action. Indecision, uncertainty, is not good. And do you think an election could help stop that . Yes, i think it could. It is one possible way. If there is a definitive answer, then whoever is in power i would suggest would actually go ahead and do whatever they want to do, and hopefully get things done. The purpose of an election is to try to end the paralysis in westminster, give one party a mandate for its vision on brexit and other policies, but with divisions so entrenched, some fear even a public poll might not help. Thats the concern at this independent sweet shop, where the owners arent convinced they will be a clear outcome. I think the split is within parties anyway. I think you are going to get parties that will be re elected and will still bring in half that want it and half that dont want it. But while frustration with the Brexit Process is undoubtedly rife, soon people could be asked to make a crucial choice. One of those seats we will have our eye on come december the 12th or the ninth depending. We will take you to the commons where they are debating an amendment on the time of this general election. I think bill catches on his feet at the moment. We are on the Committee Stage in the house so they are debating the moment put down byJeremy Corbyn which would try to change the day from the 12th of december to the ninth, thursday to monday. We expect that vote sometime in the course of the next half an hour. Then a third reading this evening before the bill goes to the lords. Lets bring in our panel. With me now is katy balls, deputy Political Editor at the spectator, laura trott, former adviser to david cameron, now at portland communications, and miatta fahnbullah, former adviser to ed miliband, now chief executive of the new economics foundation. I dont know if you heard our candidates who were just here a short time ago, quite a nervous time for them but because they are going out to try and win seats, how does it work if you are new to this, does the Central Office hang over your shoulder to see what you are doing . Definitely a lot the briefing given out to candidates. There is also a degree of youre looking for who the future stars are going to be so your spokespeople during the campaign are not selected at random. For the key cabinet posts it is focus groups, looked at, pictures of people and then add new b level, youre looking at who is appealing to voters, how does it match in terms of diversity so yes people are watched by Central Office. Miatta fahnbulleh, when you are talking to the labour candidates who are saying you dont want to do a brexit, all about the general election, obviously trying to ship it to minor issues which is why labour want to go. That will be a consistent line. You will hear labour candidates talking very little about brexit and to be fair to them, there are big issues facing the country and whether it is a community is that behind, Public Services like the nhs, there are proper issues and i think much people want some answers to those. I think parties that can provide proper radical answers to how we solve solve these problems, not all of them have gone back to the last five years, a lot of them have been long in the making, the party they can set out its stall and have a convincing radical proposition and this is the party that will win. Jeremy corbyn did that well in 2017 but things have shifted a little bit, we have not had the stagnation in parliament in 2017 or a deal to talk about in 2017, things have changed quite radically since then. Yes, i think if you look at 2017 it isa yes, i think if you look at 2017 it is a really good example of how you can have a really carefully thought out election plan, you can say you wa nt out election plan, you can say you want to write an election on brexit but ultimately events can get in the way and you saw that under 2017 when theresa may wanted to just talk about brexit and get this leave vote and unify it but instead you had issues such as Police Numbers which came into the news because of a terror attack and that was one of the big triggers, also things like her careless comments on fox hunting, saying that she personally endorsed it and before you knew what that was one of the most viable stories of the whole campaign online, so i do think this number 10 are very aware of what went wrong in 2017 and there is also the sense that if you look at theresa may as a leader, as a campaigner, i think borisjohnson is the near polar opposite, so they have an almost president ial campaign for theresa may, i think we could be heading for something similar with borisjohnson making it the main focus but also i think this is a candidate who is better suited to that who likes going to meet people and speaking to journalists, to a degree, so it will be the same error, if it doesnt work out for the conservative party it will be for Different Reasons that didnt work out in 2017. One thing i would say is you can make it about borisjohnson thing i would say is you can make it about Boris Johnson and thing i would say is you can make it about borisjohnson and he has a sort of charismatic campaigner but when it comes to the personality, when it comes to the personality, when you look at his record, look at the things he has promised not delivered, the come has made on things like racism and ethnic minorities and he is quite a divisive character, so to try and make it to put the man is a risky electoral strategy. You could say that on the flip side withJeremy Corbyn, is he the same divisive character out in the country . Absolutely and i think a lot of people have seen more ofJeremy Corbyn since 2017 and dont like what i say and if you look at the leadership ratings of the respective leadership ratings of the respective leaders than Boris Johnson leadership ratings of the respective leaders than borisjohnson is way higher, and if you are making this about brexit Boris Johnson higher, and if you are making this about Brexit Borisjohnson has a very clear position on brexit and Everybody Knows thatJeremy Corbyn isa Everybody Knows thatJeremy Corbyn is a sacred brexiteer who hasnt really co m e is a sacred brexiteer who hasnt really come out and has a very confused message. During the Referendum Campaign labour under Jeremy Corbyn were no bit to be seen and that is a big part of why the remain campaign lost. Do you think we can all agree that he is very difficult to cull which way to go, even though there is such disparity in the polls at the moment, this is the most volatile period in british politics we have had in terms of the electorate for many years. There is a recent study saying modern voters are the most volatile. So many factors. Also the situation with lots of seats, for parties which means there is very hard to predict now. Often several parties standing ina now. Often several parties standing in a constituency but i think it is very ha rd in a constituency but i think it is very hard to predict but does the brexit party damage the tories more than the lib dems can potentially damage labour because there is a certain level of liberal democrat support which the tories think is beneficial to them because it hurts labour but once a pig gets up the certain level they worried hurts them and they will be corporations but it is very hard to predict. |j was asking sarah olney about the tactical voting and whether she would want to borrow a few votes from the labour candidate in her constituency and they didnt have a very good chance and it certainly didnt last time out and they got into an argument about the remain vote. Tactical voting is very difficult in that sense. Yes, i think it is a very volatile election and it is risky for all sites. I dont think anyone can call it and i wouldnt pay too much attention to what pull safe because we have been here before but i think the key thing is for those that care about remain it would be quite interesting, i suspect you will have some quite intelligent voting. I think because people know there is a risk the remain vote fractures and you bring in a very strong hard brexiteer government that doesnt actually reflect what the country is so people will think about that and voting tactically but i do think the revoke position of the lib dems is difficult because even for remainers the idea you would stop brexit without another democratic expression is quite hard to swallow. There are the fundamentals that actually the brexit without is a fairly united, the brexit party are at about 10 and borisjohnson has been very effective at taking a lot of that over to the conservatives. The remain vote is very split so when it comes to an election which is mainly going to be about brexit in all probability that puts the conservatives in a very good position. I want to ship a little bit and talk about the ten going back into the fold for the conservatives. We have a graphic we can put some of the names on the screen. We have Nicholas Soames, let mejust run screen. We have Nicholas Soames, let me just run through the list. Richard hammond Michael Richard harrington is a former business minister because he was one of the those who voted against a timetable motion, talk like david gauke who voted for it but harrington is invited back in, david gauke is left out. Standing down as a factor in this. With david gauke he did vote for the lead to an amendment on the saturday which is probably a mark against him in terms of patterns of behaviour or looking for a reason not to bring someone back in. For some of the mps that had been welcome back and had the whip restored it is so they can leave while still being conservative mps. For those who plan to fight their seats i think in the case of steve brine and Stephen Hammond theres a real sense that those seats were quite tricky for the tory party and those candidates are probably better suited to winning them than a brand new candid of the voters dont know about. What about kenneth clarke, the father of the house, going out as an independent rather than a conservative, youre trying to win the seat of mosby, isnt that giving one of the out of the conservative voters who backed him over so many years . There is a lot of calculation that goes into this but i think at the end of the day for someone that has been so anti Boris Johnsons programme which for someone that has been so anti borisjohnsons programme which can crack inevitably is because of his very europhile position i think they felt as impossible for him to agree with the Government Programme and therefore he had to stay independent rather than back in the conservative party. What about those labour mps to mount on the backbenchers who we re to mount on the backbenchers who were deeply opposed to this general election who want a peoples vote and some of them in very tight marginals in leave constituencies . He is going to need to step up to the plate in the coming weeks. It is not a great way to go into an Election Campaign. No but i think there are a lot of mps where this will be the fight of their lives. It will be the fight of their lives. It will be the fight of their lives. It will be a tough election because so much is at stake. Brexit and where we end up, but there are much bigger questions for the country. There is caution about a general election. Some of it is valid. Probably not the right time to solve the issues, but when the election gone goes, people will be up for the fight and going out and trying to win the argument. The one thing we havent discussed is when we get a result in that week beginning the ninth, whichever diet be, what happens then because that will buy a starting gun on something and if it is the conservatives and they have a deal, do we leave, how quickly do we leave on the terms of that deal . We have what has been dubbed the flextension, in theory as soon as the conservatives can put that through parliament the uk could leave. On the other side of the end of having a Labour Government or perhaps a power sharing arrangement which would likely be parties like the snp, labour who are which would likely be parties like the snp, labourwho are in which would likely be parties like the snp, labour who are in favour of a second referendum, you start to see legislation get into place and one of the reasons labour mps are a little bit sceptical at having the election now is because if you want to hold a second referendum there is limited time to get ready to go after an election in december. I still think if it is one of those big democratic events in the sense that there is a vote, the eu will probably lend more of an extension if it was a referendum, but i think it is probably the more difficult timing situation if it is about a second referendum. So it is that Coalition Opposition coalition, we are probably looking at a may referendum . Yes, but my prediction is we will end up after this election not too dissimilar to where we are in terms of the composition of parliament. I think we will be talking about hunger minority government. I suspect brexit will still be the issue and there will be a lot of mps that will be deeply concerned about the deal that Boris Johnson has carved out because it is a different feel to theresa mays one, a worse deal insofar as it paves the way to a harder brexit, so theissue paves the way to a harder brexit, so the issue will still be the issue and it wont be settled. The future relationship wont be settled and i think in the end we will end up with a second referendum, twists and turns to get there, but that will become the only way in which parliament can solve distinct we need to go to go to the house because they are about to vote i think. Lets listen in. The vision, where the lobby division, clearly lobby. We have just missed the announcement but they are voting on the amendment. To remind you of youre just joining on the amendment. To remind you of yourejustjoining usjeremy on the amendment. To remind you of youre justjoining usJeremy Corbyn put down an energy to amend the government bill would set out on the 12th of september, despite of december. Jeremy corbyn once the 9th of december so that is about on that amendment. We might see a couple of votes after this one because there are some tidying up amendments this evening before we get to the third reading of the vote which would send the bill on its way to the house of lords. This should quickly go to vicki young who was watching all these events in the lobby for us and these events in the lobby for us and the houses of parliament. Do we get any stayer on which way this might go . No. People think it might go for the 9th of december. The government arent happy about that at all. They wa nted arent happy about that at all. They wanted the 12th of december but of course they could have come up with some kind of compromise, some were expecting that to happen, may be the tenth or 11th of december and it wasnt forthcoming so now we are left with those two possibilities. There are a couple of other amendments as you say, one of them asa amendments as you say, one of them as a technical government amendment and the other one is linked to this one. They are effectively voting on two of the same time here. This is a crucial one. What table the election be and we are heading towards our december general election. Since labour changed their mind this morning, its a pretty inevitable. Some bumps on the road when it could be amended and the possibility of votes for 16 to 17 year olds were eu citizens but they were deemed to be not part of this bill because this is about changing the doubt of the general election because under the fixed Term Parliaments act of the election is due to take place in 2022, it will now it seems take place in december. The only question is what tight will it be. What time do we expect the third trading up to this has gone through . Might not be a third reading vote. This one will ta ke a third reading vote. This one will take place and there would really be no point in a third reading vote so i think this might be the only one of the evening. We will have to wait and see but there is talk of possibly some kind of business statement because i think the issue now is what will happen if it goes through for the ninth, it means this place parliament has to be packed up by thursday night. It has to go through the house of lords. Some suggestions it could be some trouble there but i dont think there will be. The idea of the unelected house of lords trying to block an election which has been passed by the commons i dont think its going to happen. Do what they will have to do is lay out what happens tomorrow and what happens on thursday given they have to get this bill through the house of lords and the Northern Ireland budgetary bill which has to get through, thats the reason the government has said they didnt want an election on the ninth because it wouldnt give them time to do it so they will have to try and schedule that somehow, so we will have to wait and see but that is probably what that business motion will be about. Thank you for that update. They are starting to file back in to the chamber we will go back for that when we get it. Let me bring in our panel katy balls, she says she doesnt think there will be a third reading tonight, is not what you anticipate . I think when it comes to when mps vote tonight it is likely in the air but the government want to get this through as quickly as possible but you also have to see how the government response if this amendment passes with the date changed, the current expectation is it will not be the end of the road, they are not getting, but it has to be confirmed but this is the date the government preferred. Be confirmed but this is the date the government preferredm be confirmed but this is the date the government preferred. If this goes through, small victory for Jeremy Corbyn . Yes. They are haggling over the date. I think it is about the final bid of positioning so that for the opposition parties they can say we didnt give him this thing on the terms that he wanted, we got something out of this that puts them on the front foot going into an election. But they were dragged kicking and screaming to this position today because the liberal democrats and snp wouldnt have had to this it would have looked odd had labour got into a general Election Campaign not having voted for it. They had no choice. In some respects you could argue they were bounced but in the end if it looks like a general election is going to happen they had to come behind it and they think they didnt have a choice, the big picture is if you step back from all the politicking he had a bye government with the Prime Minister but was incapable of acting in building alliances and bridges and restating coalitions over time, it was completely on tenable and you have to shake it up and have general election. Id have just have to shake it up and have general election. Id havejust been have to shake it up and have general election. Id have just been told there will be a third reading tonight but we dont think there will be about and we think it will just pass. The second rating went on the nod. One thing that strikes me as an issue, uxbridge. The seat of the Prime Minister. It is pretty close. Do we anticipate he might move or be moved . I think it would be unlikely for him to be moved. Difficult. It is not as easy as it may seem on the outside. The actual people responsible for selecting candidates are the constituency associations. Its not as easy a Central Office picking someone up and deciding to move them elsewhere. Michael fallon in sevenoaks riding off into the distance, he might fa ncy off into the distance, he might fancy got on with the 27,000 majority. What you see in those seats as there is a huge bump when you have someone who is a member of the cabinet never mind the Prime Minister so ill be pretty confident that boris would retain his seat although it is within the nerve racking five although it is within the nerve racking five to although it is within the nerve racking five to 6000 so it is not the hugest majority. We always account for the big scalps on the night. Who is in danger . There are a few. If borisjohnson was to try and doa few. If borisjohnson was to try and do a chicken run to go to a different state it doesnt really instill faith that he believes he will get a tory majority if he can hold its own site which is why it is difficult. Jo swinson another party leader could be in difficulty because all of the snp and liberal democrats working together to get there election day on various Rebel Alliance thing is ultimately the snp would like to unseatjo swinson. They have managed to do that before and that would be a victory for them and that would be a victory for them and the numbers in scotland particularly if you look at the marginals are very tight. They can ship quickly so that is definitely one to watch. Then we have the question of mps like amber rudd, what happens to the independent conservatives, some of him didnt wa nt to conservatives, some of him didnt want to return to the conservative party today, some who might have liked to but havent been given the chance,. Liked to but havent been given the chance,. They will be desperate liked to but havent been given the chance,. They will be desperate to win. There does seem to be a narrow field to be an independent conservative in a general election. In terms of the pool of votes you are looking at to stay in your site it is very uphill. Jeremy corbyn has no such problems in islington. Home and dry in islington. What sort of campaign will he run, will he copy and paste 2017, can he do that . |j suspect and paste 2017, can he do that . suspect they will try to do three things. First there will be trying to talk about the fact the country is at to talk about the fact the country isata to talk about the fact the country is at a point where we need bold radical ideas about how we change and transform the economy, it helps all the little parties can see the economy is not working for everyone and you need bigger firms and i think labour will argue we have a radical perspective is and go avail bills talking about other than brexit . The second thing will be it will be a grand campaign which is why the december cold will be difficult. This is interesting because i heard they wont have target seats, it was going to be doing it all across the country i wonder if that is the way to fight a campaign now, it is very social media now. Just from a pure Strategic Perspective you have limited resources so obviously it makes sense to put them in the seats where your intelligence or data tells you they are most needed. The idea of spreading it out uniformly across the country does not majority give you. I dont think that is where they will end up. What they do haveis where they will end up. What they do have is activists. You will see particularly in marginals, Boris Johnson, they will flood the streets with activists knocking on doors and that people to people contact turning the vote out and for the really tight seats it is about getting the vote out. That could be potentially decisive in some of the seats. That it is interesting. We have heard that onJeremy Corbyn to doubt that this could be the biggest election we have ever fought. All of the arguments that it is dark and cold and wet, this is nonsense because there has never been so much at stake in a general election. think it will be big focus on digital in part because the weather conditions, lots of people will be able to get to the polling booth with if you speak to those who rememberthe with if you speak to those who remember the last winter election, february, there are still a couple in parliament, they say it is very light and dark at night, hard to find the door numbers for the ones who are targeting and if you look at the digital campaigns i think there will be an extra focus on that because every year it is more and more and there is a lot of targeting voting focus in terms of social media and that has been one of the key battle grounds because it is weather resistant. We have not had a december election for a century. 1923. No template for this. I imagine all the parties, i think particularly conservatives who look to older voters, they will have to be out there ferrying people to the polls, it will be a real active campaign on the tory side. Polls, it will be a real active campaign on the tory sidem polls, it will be a real active campaign on the tory side. It is called the get out the vote operation and it is extremely sophisticated and it will be extremely important because digital campaigners are really important and the message and the person delivering the message even more but the voters have devout and if they dont you will not win a majority so it is looking, people knocking the doors and checking whether people have voters, tellers at election polling stations ticking off with the people have come in and treating the people have come in and treating the data back to Central Office and that fed out the volunteers, this has to be a very efficient professional organisation and i think there is a Campaign Apparatus to make sure that happens. We might see Lindsey Hoyle when he comes back, i think his hat in the ring for the topjob. Do back, i think his hat in the ring for the top job. Do we expect that Speakerjohn Bercow will go on thursday as he said he would or will he stay on until the sixth of the seventh when parliament is dissolved . The expectation is he will go. I thinkjohn bercow has shown that rules and precedents can change depending on what suits that person at that time but you ultimately have a list of candidates including Lindsey Hoyle who are very keen to get elected and get in that position. We might have a scramble in the last few days of the skull and as in the last few days of the skull and as i look to put in place a new speaker . If you look at the different candidates Lindsey Hoyle is the favourite to get it but Harriet Harman is also winning some support but Harriet Harman is seen to be similarto support but Harriet Harman is seen to be similar tojohn bercow perhaps in her views on brexit so does that play a factor when mps choose. Does not switch back and forth, john bercow was a conservative when he went to the site is it not an automatic, but at it should then be labour . I dont think anyone would accuse john bercow of being very pro tory. I think convention has gone out the window. Lindsey hoyle selected the amendments disabling and prove the 16 and 17 voting was not within the scope of the bill including european citizens, so i think that was a very clear statement of intent from him that he would not be the kind of very pro remain speaker that john bercow has been. A Critical Role again because even if this deal goes through whatever happens on the other side of the election, as we know brexit doesnt end there, there isa know brexit doesnt end there, there is a whole future deal and amendments put to the future deals with the speaker will be key. The speaker has been decisive. In the context of what we have seen on parliament, the undermining of parliament, the undermining of parliament, game playing, ithink you need a really strong speaker thatis you need a really strong speaker that is willing to stand up for the right of mps to do theirjobs, to scrutinise and make sure the government is held to account so the speaker will be absolutely key. Thank you for the moment. We are watching the chamber. Lets quickly go to vicki young. Lets get some reaction from andrew percy about the prospects of a general election because its either going to be the night of the 12th of december. Are you surprised we have entered a pure . No, ijust think this parliament was doomed to failure from the start. Nobody having majority has been impossible to get anything done. Also as we have seen we have a parliament that were selected in 2017, a majority of people to deliver brexit and a lot of those mps never had any intention delivering the goods were to considerjust where we had to end in site sunlight, i dont think theres any other way. We had a reaction from any major constituent about the prospect of a december election . My seat voted heavily to leave the European Union and i have never seen so many negative comments about parliament that i have seen from my constituents in the last three weeks. They figured out this place isnt going to deliver brexit and they are quite angry about that. I think lots of them although they dont necessarily register prospects, politicians trudging up their garden path at this time of year or ever had recognise that we have to have an election to deliver hopefully a Majority Parliament one way or the other. Presumably obvious that you want Boris Johnson way or the other. Presumably obvious that you want borisjohnson to be returned as paymaster with a majority. What will your message be to constituents now that really borisjohnson has to constituents now that really Boris Johnson has failed to constituents now that really borisjohnson has failed in his promise to leave at the end of october . We havent been able to deliver brexit because parliament hasnt allowed us to. They change the law to prevent us from leaving by requiring the Prime Minister to assess expansion and we have to comply with the law. My message to voters particular across north and midlands will be as time round she give mpsa midlands will be as time round she give mps a pass. Ayes torch 95 noes to the left 315. 295. Ayes torch 95 noes to the left 315. 295. Order. The ayes to the right, 295. The noes to the left, 315. The noes have it. Unlock. We now come to amendment ia to clause one be made. To move. The question is that amendment ia to clause one be made. As many as are of the opinion, say aye. To the contrary, no. Opinion, say aye. To the contrary, no. The ayes have it. The ayes have it. The question is that clause one and clause two stand. The question is that clause one as amended and clause two stand part of the bill. As many as are of the opinion, say aye. To the contrary, no. Opinion, say aye. To the contrary, no. The ayes have it. The ayes have it. I call. Amendment three being consequential among the passing of amendment two cannot now be moved. Order. Order. The amendment thatJeremy Corbyn put down that wouldve moved to december nine, has been defeated by 20. Did that surprise you, vicki . Were just going to have formal third reading. The question on third reading, minister to reading. The question on third reading, ministerto move reading. The question on third reading, minister to move formally. The point of order, mr leslie. reading, minister to move formally. The point of order, mr leslie. I was hoping to move the manuscript amendment at the report stage of the build that the bill has been amended and if the bill has been amended, it should be reported to the house and i would like to move the manuscript amendment standing in. i would like to move the manuscript amendment standing in. I could not hear the honourable gentlemen very well. But is the honourable gentlemen suggesting that he would like to read table or put it another way, the amendments he had previously tabled and which were not selected for discussion and vote earlier in the day. Met a Deputy Speaker, now that the bill has exited Committee Stage, the bill is to the house and i have tabled an amendment and i should like, back to move that made script amendment be now moved. Lam aware i am aware now that the honourable gentlemen has raised the point that the honourable gentlemen has tabled an amendment and i now have his amendment before me and i am reading his amendment. And it appears to me. And because the night has fallen, i am not suitable for discussion at this time. So, the question is that the bill be now read a third time. As many as are of the opinion, say aye. To the contrary, no. I am going to let the speaker, finish this. Order. The question is that the bill would be now read the third time. As many as are of the opinion, say aye. To the contrary, no. Division division. Clearthe lobby. They all have to go out and vote for the reading of this bill and going to the lobbies, the bill had come out of Committee Stage, chris leslie of the independent group for change wa nted of the independent group for change wanted to put down a further manuscript amendment for the report stage and you can see that she consulted with them and it was denied. I do not know what that amendment was for, but there were those on the bench as the body to give the vote on 16 to 18 year olds and eu nationals their citizens in the uk to have the vote around 3. A million of them. It was rejected by the Deputy Speaker. Let us bring in vicki young who was in the lobby for us. I must ask whether or not you are surprised by that because they we re are surprised by that because they were approving on the 12th of december. It is difficult to know without knowing how the dup voted. Do not forget the independent conservatives, ten of whom got the whip back. Or chris leslie thought he could table an amendment but he could not and they have now moved on to third reading. Looking at the pictures, it looks like the snp possibly are not voting on this. They could be abstaining because it is not the date they want to. So the liberal democrats are sitting there not moving. So the dup as well, a lot of extensions on this boat but it should not make a difference, lets just have a look at where it seems with the date of the night is been defeated on the something very strange happens. We cannot rule anything out but looks like it will be on the 12th of december. We are having an election on the 12th of december and people are abstaining, the government is going to get this bill through today so we are hoping for a general election and that is very clear now. I think it is necessary because this parliament is not going to deliver brexit and i think we have to have a clear round of this parliament and put it back to the public and say to them, people make promises that they did not keep and now it is time for you to make a decision on who you want to make a decision on who you want to govern the country and how you wa nt to govern the country and how you want brexit resolving and it is very clear they were going to have that decision on the 12th of december. Im not looking for to the prospect ofa im not looking for to the prospect of a wet and windy election but it is absolutely necessary because this could not go on. It would be a little bit strange that the government having won the previous vote, if it were to go the other way, but we are not ruling anything out. I missed the fact that the snp we re out. I missed the fact that the snp were still in the seat. This is a one line bill which sets aside the fixed Term Parliament tax and it can go home with a simple majority. That is the difference between yesterday and today it looks like libra voting. A big shout of no and i do not think labour are going to vote against labour. It could be slightly strange for them after all of the shenanigans we have had in the past 2a hours. Labour looked really reluctant to back an election and then this morning, they were keen on it. A little strange they we re keen on it. A little strange they were to vote against it but the snp and the democrats, they will try to get this through. You see three or four of the lib dems there, screen right there and i do not know whether or not there abstaining as well put it is not the date that they wanted, want to get earlier in they wanted, want to get earlier in the week. Let us bring in our panel was with me. Lets bring in our panel, with me now is katy balls. Deputy Political Editor at the spectator, laura trott former adviser to theresa may, now at portland communicatins, and miatta fahnbullah, former adviser to ed miliband, now chief executive of the new economics foundation. What do you make of that . Seemingly abstaining. It requires a simple majority, not two thirds in the fixed Term Parliaments act, but we have seen some strange things happen in the past couple of years. Ultimately, the question is looking for the snp, because they did not get the date is the fact that it is three day later than the lib dems wa nted three day later than the lib dems wanted and what about labour because late in the day, to come around to the selection in the first place, you do get the sense that they are too attached to either of the days. Soi too attached to either of the days. So i thinkJeremy Corbyn, the at least for now want to be on the front foot for the selection rather than. Once the Withdrawal Agreement and the assurance that it was going to be brought back it is purely symbolic. Once they geared up foran purely symbolic. Once they geared up for an election, it would be very surprising if they suddenly voted against. But who knows. It has been against. But who knows. It has been a very unpredictable day. Some conventions that still survive the. Yes, theyre trying to change that but on thursday, the election would be much easierfrom but on thursday, the election would be much easier from the set up. Getting into the town halls. Allow the town halls are up in arms about a monday election, just because you need to set up the town halls and get the bits and pieces in place and that makes it much harder to do because you do not have access to schools that kind of thing so from a pure logistics perspective. Since its on the 12th, the further you go into december, that does happen, doesnt it . On the eve of the election, and to the exit post, see her quite safe. So you are quite safe. Im on the morning after so maybe you can get on there. Let us show you the house, because they are starting to gather back in. About five or ten minutes away from the results. So we should set out for people watching, we had the amendment go down, Jeremy Corbyns on them and go down. So it will be on them and go down. So it will be on them and go down. So it will be on the 12th and we are on the bill and after this they go to the lords, to be expecting any amendments to be put down in the lords . You can have another twist in the saga because they could try and add one of the amendments that the Deputy Speaker ruled. Some eu nationals getting the votes a nd ruled. Some eu nationals getting the votes and the lords try to put one end. I think it is unlikely i think there is a sense from the main part is that it is not something that they are pushing, but you cannot com pletely they are pushing, but you cannot completely rule it out that they will try to amend this in some ways. So we talking about dissolving parliament next thursday the 7th of november 6th of november. Ijust had to get to the Northern Ireland bill for the Civil Services which is crucially important. And it is crucially important. And it is crucial to borisjohnson possible settle m e nt crucial to borisjohnson possible settlement that there is a functioning assembly and place a have this big washup where you take all of the bills and what goes through and what doesnt. Obviously, there is not about to do, so bejust those two main bits that will be considered. Interesting that you say that because of the manifesto, is the conservative for the conservative party, the queen speech data set are just a few weeks ago. think in the sense of the manifesto, there will not be that many surprises on where theyre focusing since borisjohnson surprises on where theyre focusing since Boris Johnson is surprises on where theyre focusing since borisjohnson is under number ten, it is been pretty relentless that it ten, it is been pretty relentless thatitis ten, it is been pretty relentless that it is been all areas, law and order, nhs, education and infrastructure to show that there is an evening out on the distribution. I think that is going to be re enacted very heavily on the ma nifesto re enacted very heavily on the manifesto and ultimately the policy is to push that and it did pass but at the time is being written there was a time that it might not have. And to give a trailer to woody conservative government can achieve to what a. Conservative government can achieve to what a. Remember, remember. On bonfire night. On the policies, you have a grid that sets out every single day which on each day which are going to do in terms of social media and whos going to be on tv, who you are going to be interviewing and although they would like to say the same thing over and over again, they will need to find ways to put new spins on policy sort what are they going to say about Police Numbers where they going to say about key policy plans to base it out please make theyre going to have to find new ways of putting that forward at the goes interesting in terms of earlier on, the election bill this evening and talking about the cost of living, which is not something that is come up in the repetition that theyve been giving on the key issues, so i wonder if theyll be a conservative push during the Election Campaign as well. If you look at the sweeter policies that Boris Johnson well. If you look at the sweeter policies that borisjohnson is talked about, a lot of it isjust repetition of the same old remedies that we know do not work. Actually shifting the dial in terms of creating an economy that works for people, the squeeze on Living Standards that is been caused by stagnation, so that the is new stuff and by checking money and infrastructure, that does not change the economy and make peoples lives better. They are not represented here tonight, but talking with liberal democrats in the main parties in england, but we have not talked about the snp, but lets talk about snp because there are a number of conservative seats of there, a number of lib dem seats. They desperately wanted this election because they feel they have very good chance of sweeping the board. There in a very good position, pure look at the conservative paul and if you look at any party that looks like the best place to pick up seats, does appear to be the snp because the seats in scotland move between elections and the conservatives, theres definitely a small majority and i think theres a general of the conservative party that theyre going to lose seats in scotla nd that theyre going to lose seats in scotland but the question is how many. The commons fishery policy and how borisjohnson. Many. The commons fishery policy and how Boris Johnson. I many. The commons fishery policy and how borisjohnson. I think so, but the tories have to get this brexit voters back to the tory party because there is the brexit party in scotland, and so. Obviously, a stronghold for labour, but particularly when focusing on brexit. A lot of wells did vote to leave and it will be quite challenging election in wales for labour and receipt challenging election in wales for labourand receipta challenging election in wales for labour and receipt a broad challenging election in wales for labourand receipt a broad remain party and well see if the conservatives can edge some seats there. The Prime Minister is back in his seat, let us go back to vicky who was in the central lobby for us. Interesting to see who has walked out and who has not. Mps resolutely in the seats. And i think the dup, is been quite a situation. The overheard one labour mp being told to abstain, but im not sure. Not many seem to be sitting on the benches, so there could be a mass rebellion against that but there we re rebellion against that but there were some that seem to be sitting there because labour, the snp, the lib democrats, they are worried because there is a longer time for parliament to sit before you dissolve parliament that i could give time for borisjohnson to rush through his Withdrawal Agreement bill. Remember that and they do not wa nt bill. Remember that and they do not want that because they do not want brexit to happen. That is their fear, they wanted an earlier election and the houses of parliament are not dissolving earlier comments on the 12 to december, my understanding is a parliament is dissolved from the 6th of november. To the last sitting day will be the 5th of november. That night, this place packs up. Those are the dates and how appropriate that at the end of all of this, that might be what happens is the last day here is the 5th of november. And do you know a day they come back . Friday the 13th. Friday the 13th. That to swear in all the new mps and they can take about five days. On they can take about five days. On the new deadline, do they come back and do they try to start rushing things through . That is a big if, if the conservatives come back with the majority . As you say, this is from government sources were in government sources were in government at the moment. The plan is for them to come back before christmas but as you say, who knows, because we will not know who is empowered by that point. Of you to be talking by second referendum and we could be into that and the new year, couldnt wemake a defence of the results. So as you can see, the chamber is filling up. Just on that issue of who abstains tonight, doesnt really matter on the third reading whether the snp and the many labourmp reading whether the snp and the many labour mp set reading whether the snp and the many labourmp set up reading whether the snp and the many labour mp set up stand on this vote . I dont think so. To the general public, no not at all. And if it does, it will be a big victory for borisjohnson. He does, it will be a big victory for Boris Johnson. He has does, it will be a big victory for borisjohnson. He has been pushing for this very hard and he thinks it is to his huge advantage, so it will be significant for him if he succeeds. The Prime Minister back in his seat, what do you think he is going to say when he stands up and admitted . Going to say when he stands up and admitted . With the going to say when he stands up and admitted . With the claim that this isa admitted . With the claim that this is a victory and got the date that he wanted . Is a victory and got the date that he wanted . This will be his fourth time being lucky. But on friday, he has been very despondent and the election until christmas, telling special advisers that they could start preparing for christmas into the new year. And he is not going to get a holiday borisjohnson is going to give it he wants. Get what he wa nts. To give it he wants. Get what he wants. But they do want to keep and bear it, there will not be a general election, be up against a new timetable, he couldve had that quite damaging for the Prime Minister. It wouldve been hugely damaging, especially if he could not get any movement on brexit. I do not think it was the right answer for the country because it might be politically expedient but nothing is being done and if the business of actually running the country is not being done, that is bad for everyone. Boris johnson will not be speaking from the dispatch box, hes going to go straight to the 1920 committee because he is trying to start a committee because he is trying to starta Gun Committee because he is trying to start a gun on the election. And thatis start a gun on the election. And that is the conservative party and the it as a rallying cry. Jacob will be coming out of the chamber for what to expect for the last remaining days of parliament and ultimately, it is to strengthen the base. Today look forward to a general election a bit more with this Prime Minister than they did perhaps 2017 . Remember, theresa may looks pretty invincible. Remember the daily mail, crush the saboteurs, this is theresa may stamping her authority with you in the poll. Many things can change during an Election Campaign, but that may not be the case this time around. This is targeting the brexit seats, making ita targeting the brexit seats, making it a brexit election, but i think borisjohnson will be much more effective than that prosecuting that. Youre actually looking at it, the picture in the chamber and we are seeing the tellers standing in front of the dispatch box, let us listen in. Order. Order. The ayes to the right, a38. The noes to the left, 20. The ayes to the right, a38. The noes to the left, 20. So the ayes have it. The ayes have it. Unlock. Order. Colleagues, we come now to the intended business statement by the lord president of the council and the leader of the house. I begged the right honourable gentlemen. The honourable lady had signalled a desire to raise a point of order which she can do briefly. Point of order. This list on president. Those spring up to date, those the third photo third third read of the vote. Isnt that ironic, there is borisjohnson trying to get two thirds of the house of commons and what is to get tonight . Two thirds of the house of commons. Under very different bill in different reading, but there we are. So he gets his election on december 12 and a point of order being discussed at the moment, a reminder that borisjohnson being discussed at the moment, a reminder that Boris Johnson is being discussed at the moment, a reminder that borisjohnson is not going to speak and he is going to go straight to one of the offices above the house of commons to talk to the 1922 committee and the key is in the lobby for us and perhaps same to katie, and our panel here is going to be firing that started going in the election. It has felt like it is been going on for lawsons Boris Johnson became while since Boris Johnson became while since Boris Johnson became while since Boris Johnson became Prime Minister, talking about his new programmes. Parliament does, going through what they do for the remaining days, they have a Northern Ireland bow to get through and this bill does have to get to the house of lords, but i really do not think there will be much trouble there. Them trying to stop a general election that has been approved by the house of commons its pretty unlikely and with labour on the side, i am not really sure whos going to cause trouble. They can try to bring forth some of the amendments around this time, but amendments such as giving them 16 and 17 euros, which wasnt allowed to be debated or selected in the comments, i cannot see the lords being able to do so. So everyone now expects there to be an election in parliament here will be dissolved from the morning of wednesday the 6th of november, the third general election in this country and under five years. Will be busy for the next few weeks, vicki. Be all around the country and what do you think the country and what do you think the reaction is going to be on the doorstep . It is going to be interesting, isnt it because a lot of people have watch the shenanigans in the house of commons in recent weeks, do you think theyre going to welcome their mps with open arms . think it depends on whether or not people have had enough of what they have seen in the past three and half yea rs, have seen in the past three and half years, people that want a second referendum refused still think theres a someone was dry brexit to have breaks delivered and makes ita to have breaks delivered and makes it a different kind of election. If youre a liberal democrat, you still have hope that you can stop brexit happening goes for the snp as well. If you are labour, youre looking for a different kind of deal and broaden brought back in the power and if youre up Boris Johnson brought back in the power and if youre up borisjohnson the conservatives, is all about getting the numbers to get back to parliament and get this deal through and for him, the differences that he is not going into my election saying, it is going to be no deal. He is saying that i have got to deal and if you get me reelected, i will deliver on it and i think that helps those conservatives for being open back into the party that they can go back into the party that they can go back and campaign on that. But i think the big question is whether brexit will dominate, we totally expect that it will because it has dominated everything for the past yea rs of dominated everything for the past years of the election that labour wa nt to years of the election that labour want to fight. How successful can they be at turning the debate in the Something Else they can talk about theissues Something Else they can talk about the issues that they think are more popular, such as the re nationalization of utilities and the working week of what they call a very different set of policies. Being invited into the forward, remember the last time you went to the 1922 committee, he came under a lot of pressure to try and find a way for him to come back into the party. Do you think you might come under the same pressure to look on to get back . Itjust seems that this particular group that invited him tonight, they behave in a certain way that they automatically, if you like, having done that were told that he will be brought back in. But they have, and that may not be the end of it. Philip hammond, former chancellor, it has become incredibly better, his brow with borisjohnson and his status as an independent. And people like clark who have obviously served their party as a conservative at the highest levels of government for decades. But at the moment, he will be retiring, not asa the moment, he will be retiring, not as a conservative mp and theres a lot of anxiety about that from his colleagues. That is extraordinary in and of itself, vicki young, thank you very much and just to show where we are, the election bill has gone through and its initial stage of the house of commons that goes off to the lords and before he comes back to the commons, we do know and in fa ct we to the commons, we do know and in fact we can say with some certainty now that we are going to have an election, a christmas election for the first time in a century on the troth of december. We will say goodbye to her viewers were watching us on goodbye to her viewers were watching us on bbc world news. Our news channel viewers are staying with us, and so are our panel, who are here. Just picking up on that pointjust are here. Just picking up on that point just now about those that are invited back in, is that heal some of the wounds for the conservative party after what has been a pretty deep too weeks . Yes, i think it would be welcomed by the bulk of conservative mps. We have seen nicky morgan pushing Boris Johnson conservative mps. We have seen nicky morgan pushing borisjohnson to say, when you going to start bringing people back in. I thinkjacob rees mogg is seen as an arch brexiteer in many ways. I think most conservative mps thought that some should come back, perhaps not every single one of them. The question is, are they happy with this time, or do they think they should be more space . If they have not been offered the whip back today, perhaps the offer is not coming. We should just reiterate, we are at a significant moment here. There has been a lot of talk in recent weeks about whether it is the deal for us, whether its a second referendum, whether an election was the answer. Weve had how many votes on trying to get the fixed Term Parliaments act. We know that we are going to get an election on the 12th of december, and there will be lots of people around the world, and in europe particularly, saying, does this solve the problem . Does the stove the political stagnation . Absolutely, and you could not have predicted that this is where we would have ended up. We are having a general election. Sadly, i dont think it will resolve the question of brexit. I think it is hard trying to use this general election to do that, but what i hope the general election will do is to start addressing some of the big issues that voters really care about. They want to be hearing what all the parties are going to be doing about our nhs, on schools. They want to hear what will be done about the housing crisis. I hope the election will be about more than brexit, because we need a vision for the country after brexit, and we need each party to put out their stall. Labours answer to that will be to negotiate another deal and then have an end random, and but borisjohnson has the clearest path to sorting things out. Thank you. Lets go to vic young in central lobby. We are assuming the general election is going to happen now, it will go to the lords, but it is unlikely there will be any problems there. What is your reaction to the prospect of a december election . December is not a great time to go knocking on doors in the code in the dark, but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to go out there and transform this country for the better. The labour party is up for the better. The labour party is up for the fight, we are looking forward to putting forward some pretty transformational politics and policies to the british people, and we are in this to win it, because there is so much more thanjust brexit at stake. It is the future direction of our country, the nhs, investment in education and Public Services, its about personal care, ca re services, its about personal care, care for the elderly, bringing our country together, and we are ready and waiting to get on the doorstep and waiting to get on the doorstep and to try and convince enough people that it is time for real change in this country after nine and a half years of tory cuts to our Public Services. It is time for a government that will invest in our communities, it is time for labour. But you know the backdrop will be at least partly about brexit. You have been criticised over the last few yea rs been criticised over the last few years for having confusing policy about brexit. Do you think you can go through an election not dealing with that question . Absolutely, brexit is going to be one of the issues of the election. It is not the only issue, we have to look to the only issue, we have to look to the future astor brexit, but look, we recognise how polarised and divided this nation has become over the last three years since we had the last three years since we had the referendum. The only way to resolve this is to get a good deal that protects workers rights, our Living Standards, our jobs that protects workers rights, our Living Standards, ourjobs and our environmental protections, and then, ultimately, let the people decide if this is actually what they want. That is what we are proposing. A sensible deal, a credible deal, and then put it back to the people and let them have the final say. You, like i, talk to a lot of labour mps. Many of them are worried about the prospect of an election. When they knock on doors, the reception they get into the prospect ofJeremy Corbyn is a Prime Minister can be very negative. You have been behind in the polls. There is an issue about his leadership. That is why i think its important that we focus on the real issues that matter to people. Our health service, education, care for the elderly, free prescriptions. We have, i think, the right set of policies for the future. You had the right person for Prime Minister . We are in it for every single vote, there will be no no go areas for labour in the selection, because so much is at sta ke. Selection, because so much is at stake. It is about the future direction of our country, and five more years of Boris Johnson, of slash and burn politics, of cutting our Public Services and of selling our Public Services and of selling our National Health service to donald trump and other foreign interests is what is at stake here, and we will use every breath we have two get that message across that this is a once in a Generation Opportunity for real positive change. Thank you. Its as if the Election Campaign has already started. Thank you. We have had a statement from Jeremy Corbyn saying they were now launched the most ambitious and radical campaign that our country has ever seen, and im told that borisjohnson has just gone into that 1922 Committee Meeting to talk with backbench mps from his party, and he was cheered when he went in there, finally getting the election that he wanted and on the date that he wanted. So, maybe some symbolic victory for him, who knows . Lets talk about the election itself, and what we are expecting from the electorate. Its been such an uncertain period, so letsjoin been such an uncertain period, so lets join the co director of the study which looks into this. I was just looking at some of the report that you put out in recent weeks. Here is the most extraordinary thing, that a9 of our country voted for different parties across different elections from 2010 to 2017. That really does speak of the volatility we see at the moment. The British Election study has been running since the 1960s, and this is by far the most friction weve ever seen, and it has been sustained over a number of elections from 2010 to 2017, so the british voters are really willing to change their minds and change parties if they see other parties giving and better offer, so that makes it exciting and unpredictable. When you look at research are getting in from around the country, our identities as remain as levers, does that trump being labour or conservative or lib dems, our Party Identity . Yes, back in the 19605 people had attachments to particular parties, lifelong labour or lifelong conservative, but the5e labour or lifelong conservative, but these links and are week. They are moving away from their traditional ba5e5 moving away from their traditional bases and towards parties they would never could have considered before brexit came along. Weve heard from variou5 candidates this evening di5cu55ing tactical voting. Does it work . It can, but you have to agree on how to coordinate, and in the selection the liberal democrats and labour wants agree about who is the tactical choice for getting remain, and they wont agree seat by 5eat. They are both pushing that they are the tactical option each seat, and it will be difficult for voters to work out what is really the tactical option to make. It might be easier on the leaf 5ide, option to make. It might be easier on the leaf side, where the conservatives clearly are the leaf party that is well ahead of the brexit party, but on the remain side it will be very hard. There are some 5igns it will be very hard. There are some signs that the leave vote is coalescing behind the conservatives, at least at the moment, but when you look back at the election in 2017, we should remind people that the conservatives captured only six pro brexit 5eat5 conservatives captured only six pro brexit seats from labour. This is correct, and it is because even in 2017, when brexit wa5 correct, and it is because even in 2017, when brexit was so important, it was only as important as Economic Policy and the traditional left, right values. These things are in conflict with each other. We have the traditional left wing working car seats that are also pro brexit 5eat5 car seats that are also pro brexit seats in many cases, and we still have some of the residual attachment to labour to the more economic left wing policie5 to labour to the more economic left wing policies that keep them afloat, but its hard to know whether that will last forever, or if this will break down further as we realign more towards brexit politics. Thank you very much for that. You might look at the polls, you might think you can predict what i5 you might think you can predict what is going to happen, but listen to this, you would be wise to think again. It was vicki young. Its been quite a turbulent few years since the last election, and the next one could be tricky. Now, the lib dem are ina could be tricky. Now, the lib dem are in a strange po5ition. Could be tricky. Now, the lib dem are in a strange position. How does it feel . I will be standing on my personal record and my record as a mp, and this is your last chance to stop brexit. If you vote for this deal, youre firing the starting gun on years of further wrangling about a further relationship, so anybody who would like to ditch brexit for christmas, the best way is to vote lib damages stop it. People will say it doesnt stop it, because what will happen is theyll be a second referendum and things willjust be prolonged even more. Well, if there was a majority liberal democrat government, we would revoke article 50 on day one. That is our commitment. If there was another party in power that wanted to go for a second referendum, of course we would support that, but we feel that we should be out there on a clear position that we want to stop brexit in the most effective way possible. Mo5t in the most effective way possible. Most people do think this will be dominated by brexit, but people thought that last time. Thats not exact how it turned out. Is there any way this could be about other issues . I hope it will be. The minute it is a general election, youre judging this government on its whole record, but also looking at what has happened to both our main political parties. We have seen a large numberof main political parties. We have seen a large number of conservative and moderate mps completely thrown out of the party today. No way back for them, so the conservative party has changed. It is not that moderate ce ntre changed. It is not that moderate Centre Ground one nation conservative party, no matter how much they want to tout that to the public. They are moving significantly to the right. We also have a labour party that has moved to the other extreme, and i think people in britain are not that. We are not people that want to see extremes within our politics, so we wa nt extremes within our politics, so we want to stand on that clear position that we want to offer people that broad Centre Ground church. Some people say the Centre Ground and compromise hasnt worked, particularly those 5ick few who are against brexit, there has been division about those who want another referendum, tho5e. Division about those who want another referendum, thosem division about those who want another referendum, those. If you look at those who supported brexit, we have nigel fry is reporting that this isnt brexit, so many people who voted for brexit are deeply unhappy with the deal. We were very clear during the referendum about what brexit meant, and this is the problem. Its not to do with left to right, its to do with the fa ct left to right, its to do with the fact that the deal was never defined. Now we have a defined deal, lets take that back to the people and see what they really want. Thank you. That is the big question, whether the selection becomes a rerun of the brexit referendum, or whether it moves on to other issues which are important to people. Brexit looms large, though, doesnt it . Does it become a proxy vote for another referendum . New5 it . Does it become a proxy vote for another referendum . News from the 1922 committee, bori5 another referendum . News from the 1922 committee, Boris Johnson another referendum . News from the 1922 committee, borisjohnson saying its time to get the country united and get brexit done. The riches a5 he went into the room. Conservative mp5 5aid he went into the room. Conservative mp5 said that the pro minister told him that he didnt want an election, but he was forced to go for one. Lets talk to laura locke, who. This is a key night. What unfolds from this moment tomorrow, when you go back into work tomorrow . Its all systems go now. We will be getting on the funds to people, asking them whether their polling station is free, talking to people about getting polling cards printed. Now we have a day, we can start the process. Now, we we have a day, we can start the process. Now, we are we have a day, we can start the process. Now, we are approaching christmas and a lot of these town hall5 will have pantomime5 in them, doe5 hall5 will have pantomime5 in them, does that make it more difficult . There is definitely more challenges of it being a winter election, but our members have been working hard to make sure that they are as ready as they can be. A lot of polling stations are trying to make space for us and make sure there is room at the inn. Does it make it easier that it at the inn. Does it make it easier thatiti5 at the inn. Does it make it easier that it is a thursday rather than a monday . People are used to voting on a monday, its when they are used to seeing polling stations open, and it gives us three extra days to make tho5e arrangements. Gives us three extra days to make those arrangements. Talk to us about registration, its important for people up and down the country. What they need to do, and when is the cut off . They need to do, and when is the cutoff . The cutoff date will be 11 working days before the election, wed expect, depending on st andrews day. The key is, dont wait too near the time. Get registered to vote, and if you dont think you will be able to get your polling station, apply for a postal vote now. If you area apply for a postal vote now. If you are a student and you want to vote at your home address or term time addre55, at your home address or term time address, you can get your ballots sent elsewhere. Thank you for being with us. Good luck to you and your tea m with us. Good luck to you and your team in the weeks ahead. Now back to vicki. Lets get reaction from the snp. This was something you got through with the liberal democrats. The reason we chose the ninth was that we didnt want the government to have a chance to get its Withdrawal Agreement through. It seems like they want to try and push that through, because we cant see borisjohnsons brexit that through, because we cant see Boris Johnsons brexit happen. That through, because we cant see borisjohnsons brexit happen. That was key for us. Now we have tipped over into this general election mode, we are thinking about what we are seeing. We are talking about what we will be seeing on the doors, and for me, talking to people on the doorsteps of scotland, its really about remaining in the eu, and what future the people of scotland would like, and whether they would like the people of scotland to make those choices. Is it all going to be about brexit . Really, there arent many domestic fares, necessarily, that you have to deal with, but does that come up on the doorstep a5 you have to deal with, but does that come up on the doorstep as well . We talk a lot about brexit, but one of the main thing is people are talking about is that we have had a decade of austerity. Changes in universal credit, for example, have really hit my constituents and people across scotland, very hard, so people are going to be concerned about that. They are looking to see a governments return that wont be continuing that decade of austerity, and will put a pause on the roll out of universal credit, and the issues there are in the system. Ultimately, youraim i5 there are in the system. Ultimately, youraim is to there are in the system. Ultimately, your aim is to have independence for scotland. That means getting another referendum. You must look at this and think, what is the best way of getting that . Its not going to be with the conservatives, i5 getting that . Its not going to be with the conservatives, is it . Much more likely in some sort of agreement with labour inJeremy Corbyn. We have that mandate from 2016, when we said if the uk drags scotland out of the eu against its will, then we hope will have the right to hold a referendum. So, we had the mandate in 2016. We want to ask the people of scotland if they wa nt ask the people of scotland if they want to choose their own future, and they are telling me that they do. That campaign will get under way probably this weekend. Parliament will be sitting until next tuesday. It is just worth pausing for viewers who are just it is just worth pausing for viewers who arejustjoining u5 it is just worth pausing for viewers who are justjoining us that we will be voting on a general election. Mp5 voted aao 8a, and two thirds of the house of commons. Very different bill to the one they voted on last night, and Boris Johnson bill to the one they voted on last night, and borisjohnson has got to his election on the day he wanted. The 1922 committee has been meeting. He is certainly not taking anything for granted, he has told the mp5 it will be a tough fight. Lets talk to mark wallace in kingston. Many of the things that went wrong for theresa may were self inflicted. Things that went wrong for theresa may were selfinflicted. Yes, and no tory candidate or mp will forget what happened, when those poll5 tory candidate or mp will forget what happened, when those polls were basically correct. The local elections went very well for the conservative party, and then it wasnt just a misfiring conservative party, and then it wasntjust a misfiring leader and ma nifesto, wasntjust a misfiring leader and manifesto, it was a misfiring Campaign Machine that lost the tories their majority. Campaign Machine that lost the tories their majority. I remember reporting not so long ago that because of brexit and the splits in the conservative party, the finances of the party werent in great shape. That matter5 of the party werent in great shape. That matters when you are going into a general election, doesnt it . That matters when you are going into a general election, doesnt mm does, a great deal. Elections are very expensive. I dont think it was because of brexit that the finances are in trouble, it was because of the failure to fulfil brexit and the chaotic state that theresa mays leadership had got into. We reach the point where the chief executive of the conservative party came very close to essentially bankroll party hq himself. That has turned around dramatically since the very successful leadership election, the rising membership, but also the way thatjohnson has rising membership, but also the way that johnson has buoyed rising membership, but also the way thatjohnson has buoyed the polls. My thatjohnson has buoyed the polls. My understanding is that Party Coffers are looking healthy. should point out to people who dont know or arejustjoining should point out to people who dont know or are justjoining u5 should point out to people who dont know or are justjoining us that ten of the 21 conservative mp5 who lost the whip, who were expelled from the party, they have been restored. Ten of them. Some very familiar faces on this list. Does that help with some of the healing in conservative ranks . I think that is an early stage. It is important that we remember that some of those mp5 are going to be standing down remember that some of those mps are going to be standing down at the coming election anyway. The mp for watford, who has regained the web this evening, his local conservative association is meeting right now and voting on the candidate that will be his successor. So, some of this is about healing those relationships. Some of it is also about showing that a mature party has a proper disciplinary measure, proper enforcement of its policy, but also that there is room for rehabilitation. I havent seen some of the mp5 who have been driven out of the mp5 who have been driven out of the mp5 who have been driven out of the labour party for capital offences such as disagreeing with Jeremy Corbyn or being a woman in public life, they have not been asked back. Thank you. Let me show you the picture at downing street this evening. The famous door that borisjohnson will be walking back through in a few minutes time. He is with the 1922 committee, they go. It all looks quiet at the moment. The big question we will be focusing on in the weeks ahead as he will be going through that famous black door in the weeks ahead. Will it be Boris Johnson with a majority . Will it be borisjohnson johnson with a majority . Will it be Boris Johnson with johnson with a majority . Will it be borisjohnson with similar numbers to what he has now . Will it be Jeremy Corbyn at the head of an Opposition Alliance . Lets go to vicki young, who is in the lobby for us. Who do you think is happiest tonight with the state of affairs . think there are labour mps who are pretty concerned that they are worried about backing a general election, because they say if Boris Johnson wants a general election, if the snp wants one, if the liberal democrats want one, expect for one reason, because they think they can do well, and they fear that they will be the victims of the others success. Those that are around Jeremy Corbyn say it is like last time. Everyone thought theresa may was cruising to victory, she was ahead in the polls, butJeremy Corbyn went much better than base expected. They think they can turn things around again. Its a huge challenge for labour, they are going into this behind the conservatives in terms of seats. They havent won a general election since 2005, but they think, if they can Start Talking about issues other than brexit, it can get onto their turf where they can feel stronger. They have radical policies which appeal to people. Boris johnson have radical policies which appeal to people. Borisjohnson sees it as brexit being the thing that can getting back into downing street. Thank you for that analysis. Its a lwa ys thank you for that analysis. Its always the way, you go to the door, he doesnt arrive, but borisjohnson has just returned to downing street, knowing that the country will go to an election on the 12th of december. Hello there. Its interesting that although the rain has stopped across the country, and although the sun is out, we have had some flood warnings. Further south, we have seen most of the rain today in the south west corner of england, where it has been pretty rainy, too, affecting other areas of england and south wales. We can see that rain not just affecting devon south wales. We can see that rain notjust affecting devon and cornwall, pushing towards hampshire and the far south of wales. Where we keep the cloud, temperatures will be on the higher side as you head further north. It gets colder where you had the lighter winds, and those slightest guys mean that we will get a touch of frost, and some mist and fog patches. Closer to this area of High Pressure which has been dominating, it is still potentially in charge. Being squeezed by this weather system in the south west bringing drizzle. This will mainly be affecting the south west of england. That cloud shield may push its way further north towards the midlands, but sunny skies continuing further north, and showers across eastern scotland and england. Picking up in Northern Ireland, easing elsewhere. 10 degrees here, otherwise nine to 11, similar to today. The weather is slowly changing this week, because the High Pressure will be easing away into continental europe, and those weather fronts. To work their way into the uk. Very weak on thursday, pockets of light rain and drizzle. May be affecting Northern Ireland, some of england and wales. Milder aircoming in overthat some of england and wales. Milder air coming in over that cold ground, so it could turn rather misty and murky. Temperatures generally ten or 11 degrees, not changing a great deal. Milder air is going to be coming in as the winds change to more of a south or south westerly, but the next weather system coming in from the atlantic, and the one after that, probably a little more active, so rain more widely across the uk, thus temperatures at 15 or 16 degrees. Milder by day, a lot more cloud, t. Hello, im ros atkins, this is outside source. British mps have voted to hold a general election on december 12th the ayes to the right, a38. The noes to the left, 20. So the ayes have it. The ayes have it. Unlock. The bill approving the election could become law by the end of the week starting a five week Election Campaign. Labour had been resisting an election until now, well explain why the party changed its mind. We are going out there to fight an Election Campaign and i cant wait to get out there on the streets in every town and village of this country

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