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BBCNEWS Outside Source July 13, 2024

Deadline switches to this january, u nless deadline switches to this january, unless the Parliament Passes a brexit deal. That is looking very unlikely, however. The driver of the lorry in essex in which 39 people died appears in court charged with their manslaughter. And well be live in california, where two wildfires, one of them in the heart of los angeles, have forced thousands of people from their homes. Another mind bending day in british politics, and ill take on this multi headed hydra so you dont have to. Sitting comfortably . Right. First, mps have rejected Boris Johnsons proposal of an general election on december 12. He needed two thirds of mps. The Opposition Labour Party abstained, so this happened. The ayes to the right, 299. The ayes to the right, 299. The noes to the left, 70. The ayes to the right, 299. The noes to the left, 70. So the ayes have it, the ayes have it. The ayes have it, the ayes have it. The ayes have it, but the motion does not obtain the majority required under the fixed term parliaments act 2011. So, as you can see, the government very easily won, but did not get to the two thirds mark, 135 votes short. That, however, not that hearing the Prime Minister. He is going to try again tomorrow. Here he is. We will not allow this paralysis to continue, and one way 01 paralysis to continue, and one way or another, we must proceed straight to an election, so later on this evening, the government will give notice of presentation for a short bill for an election on december 12, so bill for an election on december 12, so that we can finally brexit done. And there is no support in the house, as we heard earlier on, from the benches opposite, for the bel air proceed, but mr speaker, this has cannot any longer keep this country hostage. For the wab to proceed. The wab is the Withdrawal Agreement bill. And yes, you heard that right, having a lost a vote for an election on december 12, tomorrow the Prime Minister will being a vote for an election on december 12. This plan will only need 51 support. We will explain exactly why in a minute or two. All the while, the leader of the opposition, who in the last two years has repeatedly said he prefers an election to a second referendum to resolve the brexit crisis, has to keep explaining why he wont support one. Jeremy corbyn spoke straight after the Prime Minister. I understand. Iunderstand. I i understand. I understand a bill will be tabled tomorrow. We will obviously look and scrutinise that bill, and we look forward to a clear, definitive decision that no deal is absolutely off the table, and there is no danger of this Prime Minister not sticking to his word, because he has some form on these matters, and taking this country out of the eu without any deal whatsoever, knowing the damage it will do twojobs whatsoever, knowing the damage it will do two jobs and industries all gcioss will do two jobs and industries all across this country. Heres Something Else which appears to be off the table. Our Political Editor Laura Kunz Berg saying tonight. Number 10 confirming they will not try to bring the wav back. It is all fiendishly complicated. Iommi grimley will help us through this. Why do you need to thirds today but 51 tomorrow . It all goes back to the constitutional reforms, rather complex reforms, passed by David Camerons government, the fixed term parliaments act, if you want the technical term for it. And that basically took out of the Prime Ministerial armoury this ability to call a snap election when a Prime Minister might feel good and riding high in the opinion polls, and instead, it requires a two thirds majority of the house of commons. Borisjohnson failed majority of the house of commons. Boris johnson failed to majority of the house of commons. Borisjohnson failed to get that tonight, as you rightly pointed out, so tonight, as you rightly pointed out, so hes going to try it tomorrow with a more conventional method of passing a one line bill through parliament, naming the day, and again, the same day, december the 12th, and seeing if he can get there through both the house of commons at the house of lords without it being amended. Laura what about the date . We have the two Opposition Party saying december the 9th. It is just three days, but i think it isa it is just three days, but i think it is a sign of the distrust in parliament at the moment but opposition parties suspect some kind of trap. They dont trust Boris Johnson to stick to his word. In the end, they might end up doing a deal, because it certainly looks like the Scottish National party and liberal democrats both think a general election is in their interest, and the reason for that is, they believe that a new parliament might be the best way to secure a second referendum. By the way, that is diametrically opposed to Boris Johnsons reasons for having an early election. He believes he can get a majority to then steer through his Withdrawal Agreement bill. Thank you, naomi. Will you stay with us thank you, naomi. Will you stay with us to help us through the different elements of the story . And before we race onto the next deadline, its worth reflecting that of course the borisjohnson pushing for a december election is the same borisjohnson whose headline policy has been this. Id rather be dead in a ditch. Come out of the eu on with the 31st. Now ifs abouts. We are coming out of the eu on october the 31st come what may. But the october 31 brexit deadline is gone, replaced by the eu with january 31, 2020. Tom newton dunn is the suns Political Editor. He confirms this. And so, just as the Prime Minister said he wouldnt ask for a brexit extention and then did, and denied hed suspend parliament and then did, and said hed never seek to put customs checks between Northern Ireland and the rest of the uk and then did, so the Prime Minister who said again and again and again that brexit would happen on october 31 in all circumstances, and that his approach rather than that of theresa mays would guarantee it, will be in charge of a country on november1 that is definitely in the European Union. He confirmed it in writing to the eu a few hours ago in this letter. In it, he writes. The eu at the moment has done no such thing. In fact, brexit could in theory happen sooner. The eu is calling this deal a flextension, meaning the uk can leave before january 31 if borisjohnsons brexit deal gets through parliament. Thats a very big if. We dont even know if Boris Johnson will try. Heres a tweet from katya adler to manage expectations. Here is more from katia. Dont forget, this is in the back of three years a brexit process. The eu has negotiated three brexit deals, has negotiated three brexit deals, has spoken to three Prime Ministers, and if brexit is going to happen, the eu really wants to get on with it. In katya adlers latest brexit blog, she describes the extension from the eus point of view as an excruciatingly long and confusing political dance to get there. And the dance is not over yet. The final decision was made in brussels today. Heres the eus chief brexit negotiator afterwards. It was a very short and efficient and constructive meeting, and i am very happy that the decision should be taken. Was the extension to long . Will this drag on and on . Lets bring on naomi again. I want to understand what borisjohnsons best Case Scenario is. He gets his election, does well in it and then thinks he has time to get his deal through before the new deadline. Is that its . That is it, and i think that its . That is it, and i think that does call into question, even if things went to plan and he came out of the election with a majority, would he have enough time or what events conspire to mean that another extension was required . Its also worth thinking about the dissenting voices around the Prime Minister, because many cabinet ministers think the optics of this arent very good, and that perhaps it would be better to knuckle down and at least try to pass his withdrawal bill rather than be seen to rush onto the other issue ofan be seen to rush onto the other issue of an election. So its definitely the case that in both parties, both of the main parties, there are some who fear that an early election could actually be a tactical error. One of the you about naomi. A practical thing, really. One of the you about naomi. A practicalthing, really. I one of the you about naomi. A practical thing, really. I found practicalthing, really. Ifound out today that the uk has not had a december election since 1923. Here is and expert on why they are so rare. There are shorter evenings, so campaigning after work as hard. There are questions about do as many people turn out to vote, and that could be a challenge for both sides, the opposition and also the government. I dont think its necessarilyjust an issue for the government. There has also been the sort of thing of, the places where we vote will be rented out for christmas plays and christmas parties, and there are practical, logistical sides to it which can be challenging. And by and ifi and if i bring you and again, naomi, i know there are Civil Servants who are not thrilled about this idea, but if the government says it is to happen, it has to happen . but if the government says it is to happen, it has to happen . If Boris Johnson gets his way through parliament, it will have to happen. There have been december elections before. You mention one. There was another in 1910, and another in 1918, so there are precedents for holding them at this time of year, but yes, even britains top Civil Servant has mentioned politely to the parties involved that it might be hard to get hold Village Halls for polling stations because of activities and pa ntomimes for polling stations because of activities and pantomimes already being booked in the run up to christmas. Some might say all of it has turned into a bit of a pantomime now quite thank you very much, naomi. A very complicated day, and useful to get naomis help guiding us through it. I hope that has brought you through it. Later of the programme, we will look at the position of the liberal democrats, the labour party and the snp and how they fit into Boris Johnsons and the snp and how they fit into borisjohnsons idea and the snp and how they fit into Boris Johnsons idea of and the snp and how they fit into borisjohnsons idea of how to get an election in december. That is in about 20 minutes. Lots more on the bbc news website and brexit. Inafew bbc news website and brexit. In a few minutes, we will talk about instagram. Its promising to remove images, drawings and even cartoons showing methods of self harm or suicide after the suicide of a young girl in england. We will hear what her father has been saying. After 46 years of unhappiness, these two countries have concluded a after 46 years of unhappiness, these two countries have no luded a after 46 years of unhappiness, these two countries have no morei a after 46 years of unhappiness, these two countries have no mo each ignition and and ition and and one and and one american legend. This is beautiful. A milestone in human history. Born today, this girl in india is the 7,000,000,000th person on the planet. This is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. Our lead story borisjohnson is to try again for a december 12 general election after mps rejected his plan. Here in the uk, the driver of the lorry in which 39 people were found dead last week has appeared in court via video link. This is morice robinson. Maurice robinson is 25 and from County Armagh in Northern Ireland. He faces 39 counts of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic people. He wasnt asked to indicate a plea, and has been remanded in custody. Hell appear in court again in four weeks time. Todays hearing was in chelmsford in essex, which is around 40 kilometres from where the bodies were found on wednesday. Apologies. We will talk about vietnam in a minute. Its near the local council offices, which Prime Minister borisjohnson and his home secretary visited today. They signed a book of condolence. Boris johnson wrote we learned over the last few days that some of the victims may have been from vietnam, and today the vietnamese government said that. Jonathan head is in the district of yen thanh, where many of the victims are believed to have come from. Hes spoken to some of those still waiting for news about their loved ones. Ina in a vietnamese front room, a family endured an agonising wait. Its ten days since they last heard from 26 year old wing. A month ago, i heard him talking of a business idea with a friend, says his father. But he never asked for money, so i didnt think he was going overseas. He called us several times after arriving in germany, explained his uncle. But not in the past ten days. They began to hear news that something had gone terribly wrong. Then the police came, asking for samples of fingernails and hair. The awful possibility that he was inside the container is beginning to hit home for this family. His mother pleads for the british authorities to be quick. Please help us, and find my son, she says. Its been said that its poverty driving young people to leave here and go overseas, but thats not quite true. Much of vietnam is poor, but here theyve seen just how well you can do after only a few years living in britain. Theyve seen the new houses and the shiny cars, and its that thats inducing the bright and ambitious young people to make thatjourney west. Lets talk about the journey some more. Too fan is from the bbcs vietnamese service. She explains why people in vietnam are willing to risk dangerous journeys to the uk. They can find work very easily in establishments such as restaurants, nail bars, opportunities to work for families as nannies or housekeepers, and also as workers in Illegal Cannabis farms. Now, the second reason for this is also because there is a network of vietnamese families and friends that they have here who would help them to find work and sort of settle in when they first arrive, and another reason for this is also because the salary in the uk is considered a bit higher than that in countries such as germany or france. Too has also been telling us about what families in vietnam have been telling her and her colleagues. Some of them have set up sort of makeshift altars and organised prying ceremonies for their loved ones, because frankly, they have very little hope that they are still alive. Praying ceremonies. Yesterday, we interviewed the brother of a young man who sent a very poignant message to those who are still thinking of going to the uk, in this way. He said, you know, the risk for this journey is so high. The chance of survival is 5050, high. The chance of survival is 50 50, so why take it . Consider it very carefully before you embark on such a journey, and its ok to stay back home and just earn enough money for yourself and have a sort of normal life. You dont have to go and get rich quick. As always, many thanks to our collea g u es as always, many thanks to our colleagues from bbc world service. Lets begin the business by talking about about lvmh, big luxury goods company, has confirmed its in talks with tiffany co for a takeover worth 14. 5 billion. Samira hussain in new york. So, why do they want to do it . This would get the house of Louis Vuitton into the american market, and also, more importantly, it would get them into the jewellery market. If you look at luxury goods, jewellery is the Fastest Growing area, and that is something that this house would want to try to invest in. On the flip side, why would tiffany even say yes . It is no secret that they have been struggling for a long time with the fa ct struggling for a long time with the fact that they have not had as many Chinese Tourists coming and purchasing tiffany goods. They have struggled for a long time. They were trying to get some lower priced items to try and get younger millennials to come and shop at their stores, and its getting a bit difficult for them. So it is totally adding enticing offerfrom tiffanys perspective. An enticing offer. Explain why it is that tiffany would fix some of those problems you listed by hooking up with this big multinational . Then, it ends up being this big multinationals problem, no longer tiffanys. That is what would happen. And look, they also have a lot of brands, a lot of different brands under this one umbrella, and so, it would really give them an opportunity to sort of use that kind of expertise. And the fa ct use that kind of expertise. And the fact is that they are offering something that is 22 higher than what the company is valued at right 110w. What the company is valued at right now. Thats pretty sweet, given that we are not going to see things are getting any easier for the company in the next four years, especially when you consider a possible reference recession in the United States and what is happening with china. So that is one thing i wanted to ask you about, this is another. You have been interviewing Richard Branson. The space firm Virgin Galactic has launched on the new york stock exchange. The company is hoping to send its first customers into space next year. And samira, youve been speaking to Richard Branson about this. What d

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