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In other news, englands fracking industry has been much slower than expected to get up and running a report says low Public Acceptance is partly to blame. Turkey and russia have agreed what they say is an Historic Deal aimed at keeping Kurdish Forces away from syrias border with turkey. A generation of young people with special Education Needs are being failed a report by mps suggests bureaucracy and a lack of funding is tearing familes apart and in sport, it was a five star night for the english clubs in the Champions League as harry kane revives tottenhams qualification hopes, Raheem Sterling scores a hat trick as Manchester City beat atalanta. Good morning and welcome to the bbc news at nine. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. It comes after last nights commons votes where mps first voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill, but then voted against the fast track parliamentary timetable, with many arguing there wasnt enough time to debate the details of the bill. So in yet another eventful brexit week, where are we now and what happens next . Borisjohnson has paused his brexit bill after mps derailed his plan to rush a deal through the commons. Parliament had been due to debate the bill over the next couple of days but will instead return to discussing the contents of the queens speech. Eu leaders will now have to consider whether to grant a delay to the 31st october brexit deadline and decide what length it should be. They could agree an extension with a maximum end date, but with the flexibility for the uk to leave early if a deal is ratified sooner. A longer brexit delay could mean a general election the Prime Minister is pushing for this to try to restore the conservative partys majority in the commons to make it more likely for his deal to pass. Our assistant political editor, norman smith, joins us from westminster. Good morning to you, helen. Is there actually any parliamentary road left for borisjohnson actually any parliamentary road left for Boris Johnson and actually any parliamentary road left for borisjohnson and his deal good morning to you, norman. All are all roads pointing inevitably towards a general election now . The Prime Minister has options. Its likely depends of course on what the eu does and they are the next key players in all of this, but the assumption is they will agree an extension, and probably an extension that passes the ball back to Boris Johnson, in other words one that gives him enough time to decide whether he wants to go for a winter election or whether he wants to try again with his brexit deal. There are those in his party who believe that, actually, if he were to try again he would succeed, and they point to the fact that before he was defeated last night on the timetable motion he actually won quite a clunking majority on the second reading, the broad principles behind the deal, and they argue if he came back, secured a longer time for mps to scrutinise the bill, there is a decent chance he would be able to get it through, and that he is, in their view, within touching distance of getting a brexit agreement. That said, the very strong mood music from number ten this morning as they are set on a general election. Their view, it wouldnt matter if you give piled on 30 days, three months, they are never going to sign up to Boris Johnsons deal if you gave parliament 30 days. They say there are those in parliament set on thwarting brexit and their message is there is no point carrying on down the parliamentary road, they wa nt to down the parliamentary road, they want to go down the general election road. That was the message this morning from thejustice secretary, robert buckland. Parliament has made this decision, and parliament has asked for and extension from the eu, well then that we are waiting of course to hear what other eu leaders say about the situation, but we want to crack on, and if we cant crack on then, you know, regrettably, it does seem that a general election is the only way to sort this impasse out, however cold and inhospitable the next month might be. Now, what strengthens mrjohnsons hand in seeking a general election is that the opposition parties now are all pretty much seen on board for a general election, once the eu has granted an extension. The liberal democrats, the snp have said they would do it, and this morning labour, who had previously left themselves lets say a little wiggle room on this, because there are senior labour voices who would much prefer senior labour voices who would much p refer to senior labour voices who would much prefer to have a referendum than a general election, and this morning we had from the shadowjustice secretary, richard bagan, who could not have been more categorical and explicit in saying that once the eu come back with an extension then, yes, labour will back a general election shadowjustice secretary, richard burgon. If the eu responds by agreeing an extension of a number of months, that means that borisjohnson, in that time, cant push us out through a no deal brexit. Given that, labour would be calling for a general election once a no deal is off the table, because actually its only a general election that can, yes, sort out brexit, because a Labour Government would hold a public vote between a credible leave option and remain to finally sort this out, but also sought out all these tory created crises after nine years of austerity. The one thing, annita, i think is clear is that the do or die deadline is probably dead, because it seems to be even if borisjohnson did bring a deal back, there is no way he could get it through parliament by october 31 because we know mps are already asking for more time, but also he has to get it through the house of lords and the European Parliament have to give their approval, so i think we are safe in saying do or die is dead. 0k, norman, thank you very much, and thatis norman, thank you very much, and that is something our next guest said last night. Nigel farage tweeting yesterday that do or die is over. Lets speak now to nigel farage, who is an mep and leader of the brexit party. He is in strasbourg. You are convinced the uk will not be leaving the eu on the 31st of october. The brexit party has been an election preparation mode for some time now and asa preparation mode for some time now and as a result of what happened last night does not now step up for the party . Yes, i think it has to, andl the party . Yes, i think it has to, and i think even if borisjohnson was to bring back this eu treaty i have no doubt parliament would an end it by adding back into it a Customs Union so, yeah, it seems a general election is the only possible route for some resolution. We are preparing, absolutely. There was some talk, some suggestion, of arrangements between the brexit party and the conservative party in some constituencies avoid splitting the leave vote. Is there any possibility of that happening now because you also said when you stood with your prospective general election candidates you would be taking on the conservatives in every constituency if he didnt stick to this deadline . Yeah, i mean, it is notjust the failure this deadline . Yeah, i mean, it is not just the failure to meet the deadline, it is worse than that. What borisjohnson is trying to do is sell the country a new eu treaty saying it gets brexit done. 0n the face of it that is very appealing, but yesterday here in strasbourg mr barnier said the next phase of negotiations would last for a minimum of three years. I would ask people, who do you think is telling the truth, borisjohnson or Michel Barnier . The brexit party is the only party saying the vote to leave meant leaving the eu institutions, not being trapped inside them for many years to come. There is a possibility of i suppose with a general election that Boris Johnson could drop the idea of pushing for this treaty, but it doesnt look like it at this moment in time and thatjust isnt brexit. So are you leaving open the possibility of some sort of electoral pact . To be honest, i would work with anybody that wanted to honour the result of the referendum for us to leave the eu and leave its institutions and be an independent country, but right at the moment that looks very unlikely. Do you have concerns, though, in terms of the voters that you wish to win over, that Boris Johnson the voters that you wish to win over, that borisjohnson will to those voters have done enough to convince them that he has tried to get brexit over the 31st or up to the 31st of october deadline, that he has tried to deliver brexit . Well, he came back from brussels la st well, he came back from brussels last week and there was a sort of collective sigh of relief, hooray, great new deal, but i think as time goes on and people realise that this is mrsmays dreadful surrender with a couple of improvements but leaves mrs mays dreadful surrender, and it leaves us trapped inside institutions of the eu, and in areas of military and foreign policy, it is not leaving the eu but becoming an associate member of it without a vote, without a say. Well then i think the optimism we saw last friday morning after the european summit could very quickly disappear, thenif summit could very quickly disappear, then if people think, actually, what borisjohnson was doing then if people think, actually, what Boris Johnson was doing was telling us Boris Johnson was doing was telling us something that simply wasnt true, well, Public Opinion can change very quickly. What length of extension do you think will be offered from the eu . Well, minimum three months. Obviously what they wa nt three months. Obviously what they want isa three months. Obviously what they want is a general election or a second referendum, they want some degree of resolution well then i would have thought at least until the end of january, would have thought at least until the end ofjanuary, perhaps even longer. 0k, nigel farage, leader of the brexit party, thank you very much for your time this morning. Thank you. The fracking industry has developed much slower than expected, and has cost the taxpayer more than £30 million in court cases, regulation and policing costs, according to a report by the National Audit office. It says those projects that have started are losing public support. The fracking industry insists it still has huge potential to supply energy, as our environment analyst Roger Harrabin explains. The shale gas boom in the usa it sent Energy Prices tumbling. A downing street official told the then Prime Minister, david cameron, who predicted a shale gas bonanza in the uk. One report said itd generate £38 billion in revenue and create 64,000 jobs, with 400 wells being fracked a year. But the uk is not the us. Protesters have held up fracking over earth tremors. The uks geology has proved very different, too. The report says just three wells have been fracked, and theres no sign of lower prices. Whats more, the project is losing support. The economic benefits around fracking now are very uncertain, not least because the government doesnt really know how much shale gas could be extracted from england. The government itself doesnt think that it will have a Significant Impact on gas prices, which are set internationally, and the scale of the shale gas industry, if it were to take off in the uk, wouldnt really be significant enough to change that much. But north sea oil took a long time to get going, the shale firms maintain. There is plenty of shale gas available, they say, and no local environmental problems have been caused. But this is political now. Labour says it would ban fracking immediately. Roger harrabin, bbc news. Turkeys Defence Ministry say there is no need for a new military offensive in syria. The announcement was made after turkey and russia have agreed what they say is a Historic Deal aimed at keeping Kurdish Forces away from syrias border with turkey. This all comes whilst turkeys offensive to drive Kurdish Forces out is paused. Under the deal, syrian and Russian Forces will immediately oversee a withdrawl of Kurdish Forces. Our correspondent Mehrdad Farahmand is in the border town on sanliurfa, and joins us now. How do you think the Kurdish Forces are going to respond to this . Well, in less than two hours from now what is left of the Kurdish Forces in a town not very far from where i am standing, they are supposed to be pulling out from the town. Yesterday kurdish sources published a letter written by the commander of the Kurdish Forces addressing mike pence, the us Vice President , that he would abide the deal between russia and turkey and he would take out his forces from the designated area. Therefore for now we would say that what is going to happen is there will be a gradual process of withdrawal of the Kurdish Forces, overseen by turkish, russian and syrian armies from the two different sides, but that will be only in an area of 2000 square kilometres. And in what is left of that designated area, more than 10,000 square kilometres, that would be only the russians and the syrians that would make sure that the kurds would be pulling out from up to 20 miles away from the border. The other question, what will happen to Kurdish Forces when they pull out and go deeper into syrian territory . Nothing is known about that. Even from the syrian government, the details are not known to us and it is yet to be seen. Like my 0k, mehrdad, thank you very much, from the turkey and syria border there very much, from the turkey and syria border there yes, 0k, mehrdad, thank you very much. The headlines on bbc news. Borisjohnson will call for a general election if the eu proposes delaying brexit until january. Its after mps rejected his plans to get his brexit bill passed in three days. The fracking industry has failed to meet its targets in part because of a lack of public support. Turkey and russia have agreed what they call an Historic Deal to ensure Kurdish Forces remain away from the Turkish Border with syria. Totte n ha m Tottenham Hotspur went 5 0 with harry kane scoring in the grip stage of the Champions League. And ryan sterling scores a hat trick, as Manchester City beat atalanta 5 1. And england taking on new zealand on saturday. More to come on all of those stories later in the hour. Thanks. We will see you very soon. More now on our main story. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. Last night, mps voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill. However, the Prime Ministers plans to fast track the legislation through the commons, in time for the uk to leave by the end of the month, were rejected. We can speak now to David Herszenhorn chief brussels correspondent for politico. Firstly, wendy what you think is the length of extension the eu are likely to give, and secondly, when will we here . It will be the extension as put forward in the benn act put forward very reluctantly by borisjohnson on saturday. The first letter, i have to ask you for an extension, but i dont want it so please dont give it to me. Seeing it as an urgent moment to prevent and no deal is an eye on october 31, donald tusk. Out of paris, notably, from advisers to emmanuel macron, they would like to see something a lot shorter to keep the pressure on london but i am not sure theres a great deal of consent in the eu for that that such would actually work to prevent a no deal, donald tusk. One way to keep the pressure on, keep the uk dangling, but of course there is a price to pay for that kind of uncertainty and eu leader matts had made clear they dont want uncertainty, risk. Leaders. They thought they were out of this, the uk domestic political problems, they thought by agreeing to another Withdrawal Agreement with borisjohnson, they to another Withdrawal Agreement with Boris Johnson, they thought they we re Boris Johnson, they thought they were done, and it was really now up to london and westminster in the uk in general to resolve its internal differences. They are quite angry, some of them, to be dragged back into this, especially after assertions by some on the side on what they will get. They want the uk to get its act together and decide what it plans to do. Some eu leaders will say there should be a National Election in the uk or some big political development, second referendum, to justify an extension, but at this point the message from donald tusk is an extension is needed to prevent a disaster scenario, and there is politi

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