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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240713

Heading into tuesday, rain to clear east anglia and the south east should not last long, and some sunshine, when speaking up in northern and Western Areas ahead of the rain arriving in Northern Ireland through the afternoon. Temperatures are about 14 16, not too bad really for this time of the year. We have the rain coming from the atlantic, it is anchored by that area of low pressure, which will be area of low pressure, which will be a feature of the weather through the west of rest of the next week. The rain band will be happy at times, particularly over the hills of scotland, during wednesday at pushes eastwards, it may dawdle in the south east corner, most other areas will brighten up, with some sunshine and also some blustery showers as well, 12 16 is near normal for this time of year. For the outlook that area of low pressure will keep showers going throughout the end of next week, and then this ridge of High Pressure make lighten things down over the weekend but it is never really dominant because it gets swept away by this deep low coming in from the atlantic, bringing more wind and rain. If you look at the jet stream ems can see we have the jetstream in this position later on next week, so we are in the cooler hour, after that the jetstream changes position, that the jetstream changes position, that will drive in the deep area of low pressure, bring more rain, but it may actually bring some less chilly air. Essentially what i am saying is there is no unsettled weather insight. This is bbc news. My my guests are sam lister and lance price. The headlines five people are injured in a knife attack in the Arndale Shopping Centre in manchester. Brexit talks intensified between the uk and the eu, but both sides say there is still a way to go. The un says 100,000 people have left their homes in Northern Syria following turkeys attack on kurdish held areas. The Nobel Peace Prize goes to the ethiopian Prime Minister for his role in ending the conflict with neighbouring eritrea. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me i have political commentator and former labour Party Director of communications lance price, and the deputy Political Editor at the daily express, sam lister. Lovely to see you both. Before our chat, a quick look through the front pages. The mirror leads with a knife attack in manchester in which five people were hurt, the i going with the same story and reporting that an armed police confronted the attacker. The Daily Telegraph front page features the planned weekend of intensive talks between the European Union and downing street. The ft also goes with that story, reporting on those talks and saying that the eu chief negotiator, michel barnier, has said that Boris Johnson negotiator, michel barnier, has said that borisjohnson has shifted his position. The guardian takes the same line and adds that hard line conservative brexiteers are willing to be flexible over the deal. The daily mail has a warning from the head of the nhs about false rumours concerning vaccinations. The times says mondays queen s speech will include legally binding targets to reduce pollution. And finally, the daily express has commissioned a poll suggesting that conservatives could win a small majority in a snap election. I will let you guys do the talking now. It is not really a snap election anyway, because it has been going for months. I dont know what is snap about it. But it makes a headline. It is snappy. Lets start with the mirror, and it is that awful attack that took place at the Arndale Centre in manchester. Yes, i mean, another terrifying ordeal for the people of manchester, and awful scenes of the violence that went on there. A lot of it captured on peoples mobile phones while it was going on, so it very much brought home to all of us in the pictures, including these on the front of the daily mirror. The people of manchester incredibly resilient, and they have faced appalling attacks before. 2. 5 years ago, of course, the Manchester Arena attack, more than 20 people killed. The good news, if there is any good news in the cases like this, is the speed at which the Police Responded. They responded in a matter of minutes, it was first reported that they were unarmed, and sadly three people were stabbed and another two people were caught up in the violence. But it could have been so much worse if the police hadnt reacted as quickly as they did, and we should all take our hats off to them. Yes, i mean, one of the sources quoted in the mirror said it was like a horror film. These are people going about their day to day business shopping in the Arndale Centre on a friday, just not what you would be expecting to happen. But as lance said, we can only be thankful that the Police Responded so quickly. We know the police will these things. They have mock operations and all kinds of planning in place for this kind of attack. So luckily it seems that these plans, they pay off. It has worked out in that the police very quickly managed to detain the man. I mean, ithink quickly managed to detain the man. I mean, i think as lance touched on earlier, there is this thing that initially it was involving Counter Terror police. It doesnt look now, it doesnt look like it is heading in that direction, but i think the default is now to assume some level of. The police did say they are keeping an open mind as to they are keeping an open mind as to the motive but confirming earlier this evening that he had been assessed by specialist doctors and is being detained under the Mental Health act. Lets turn to the guardian and talk a bit of brexit. What do you think mrjohnson is going to think of words such as you turn being associated with his stance . Yes, he is always the one who has liked to present himself as very clear, very firm, brexit do or die, and criticising the shifting of position that happened under theresa mays government, and now here he is making concessions of his own stop it wasnt Crystal Clear yesterday who had made concessions during the discussions. Is it Crystal Clear now . It is becoming clear that it is the british side, it is Boris Johnson, who have shifted. I dont think we should be surprised by that because the European Union have been absolutely consistent right the way through the negotiations, going back over three years now, that they are not going to agree to anything that puts the border in the island of ireland, and it seems as if Boris Johnson has now recognised that that is an immovable object, and therefore he has come up with a new sort of fudge, essentially, to enable Northern Ireland both to leave the Customs Union and the single market, along with the rest of the united kingdom, so we all leave together, but also to kind of stay within it in order to avoid a ha rd stay within it in order to avoid a hard border on the island of ireland. So it is a fudge. Whether he will get away with it, we will have to wait and see. What do you think voters are going to think of this stance . I think ultimately vote rs this stance . I think ultimately voters just this stance . I think ultimately votersjust want, this stance . I think ultimately voters just want, most this stance . I think ultimately votersjust want, most people just want, this done. And i think that it certainly is a sense that Boris Johnson is determined to make this happen. That has been reflected in tomorrows headlines, but on the compromise side, every side has to compromise. It may be a fudge, but thatis compromise. It may be a fudge, but that is the way all negotiations go. Everybody needs to be able to go back to their constituents and say, look, this works for us because of this. And perhaps if everybody is compromising a little bit and we are in the right kind of area, i compromising a little bit and we are in the right kind ofarea, i mean, were not trying to go out to make rustles pay. We want everybody to come out of this with the best deal that works for everybody on all sides brussels pay. Certainly there was no chance of the Withdrawal Agreement ever being reopened, and they have certainly shifted on that. Sol reopened, and they have certainly shifted on that. So i think there is a sense that all sides are willing to shift a little bit. I am not so sure that i completely agree with that. I think that borisjohnson sort of put forward this myth that somehow britain is so strong, it has got all the cards in its hands, that the European Union will have to flinch. Where actually it is won against 27. They have stayed remarkably united, consistent in their demands on protecting the outer border of the European Union. And it has always been, all the way along the line, britain that has had to concede, and i think he has conceded again. Now, whether or not what ends up as a result of all this is acceptable to all the other European Union countries, who knows . The European Parliament has to agree it as well. And then there is the whole issue of whether he can get it through the british parliament, and the big question still remains. Is what he comes up with better than the deal we already have as members of the European Union . 0k, well, next question is, is it going to be a cce pta ble next question is, is it going to be acceptable to the dup . They are bringing along their ten mps. Looking at the independent, he faces a fight with the dup is the deal grows closer. What are the issues here . Lets remind people. Two they are saying, actually, the Unionist Community are ready to kill off this deal. But actually i think that is slightly over interpreting what has been said by dup leader Arlene Foster. She hasnt killed off this deal. If you wanted to, she could quite easily here and now. She hasnt done that. They are talking about the ulster unionists, and the ulster unionists are not the key parliamentary players in this. Obviously they do have a voice and they are an important part to bring on board, but they are not the parliamentary players in this. Sol think the dup are still the crucial factor in this, and Arlene Foster so far has not said no. The nature of Northern Irish politics is that for any big decision you have to have cioss any big decision you have to have Cross Community any big decision you have to have cioss community consensus, any big decision you have to have Cross Community consensus, which means that everybody pretty much has to agree. So the idea that we saw last week that perhaps the dup would somehow have a veto over this and be able to determine themselves whether 01 able to determine themselves whether or not Northern Ireland carried on with any new arrangement, that clearly was not going to work, and it is still not going to work. It was a good offer to the dup, and no matter they were delighted no wonder they were delighted with it. That has been watered down and what it will be replaced with, were not quite sure. Whether it will be something that requires Cross Community support in Northern Ireland to give it some democratic legitimacy to this arrangement so that Northern Ireland is entrapped into something it hasnt supported for a referendum of some description. I was just for a referendum of some description. I wasjust going to say, perhaps it is something that all parties in Northern Ireland ought to be reflecting on, that stormont hasnt been sitting for two years, and there needs to be a concerted push to find a way to break the stalemate. The dup also need to remember that they are in a minority in Northern Ireland, and certainly on the issue of brexit, where the majority voted to stay in the European Union. The other fighters going to be bringing it back to parliament. Interesting to hear what you think of labours position on this. I think labour will whip its mps to oppose the deal, almost certainly. It is hard to believe anything else would come forward. The only possible proviso to that would be if borisjohnson felt that he had to offer a referendum on the deal is part of the package, in which case labour would say if it goes through with the promise to put it to the people before it comes into effect, they might support it or they might abstain, so it would have a very good chance of obviously going through. If that doesnt happen, labour will oppose it. But i think eve ryo ne labour will oppose it. But i think everyone has got their eyes on the next general election and where it goes from there. Where this to happen, and he would think it through and get it through parliament, which i still think is a long shot, that does put labour in a difficult position come the election. Lets turn to the front page of the times. Lovely picture, sad story, though. This is Richard Radcliffe and nazanin. Two yes, she has been living with her grandparents over there, to allow her to visit weekly. Her mum has ibc beenin her to visit weekly. Her mum has ibc been injailfor her to visit weekly. Her mum has ibc been injail for three her to visit weekly. Her mum has ibc been in jail for three years. Her to visit weekly. Her mum has ibc been injail for three years. And i think because she is now of school e, think because she is now of school age, they made a decision to bring her back here so she could start school. But obviously for nazanin thatis school. But obviously for nazanin that is absolutely heartbreaking. I think the visits with her daughter we re think the visits with her daughter were what was keeping her going through this really terrible time. But obviously for Richard Ratcliffe it must be a moment ofjoy, in some respects, to have his little girl back. He has been remarkable in keeping the pressure on the government through the foreign secretary s to try to get some resolution to this problem. And, you know, i think most peoples hearts just go out to them. We heard this morning when they were speaking, you know, there was a figure that was put on them, not quite paying a ransom demand, but very clearly talking about, to get nazanin free, we need this money being paid. Talking about, to get nazanin free, we need this money being paidm talking about, to get nazanin free, we need this money being paid. It is really a ransom demand, and it is complicated with iranian politics, of course, because you have a relatively liberal government who would probably like to do a deal. You have the hardline clerics who wont allow that to happen stop but clearly, if we were willing to pay those arguments over unfulfilled contract, if britain were willing to pay a very substantial sum of money, she would probably be free now. And thatis she would probably be free now. And that is the tragic reality of it. Lets turn now to a fight between two big names at a popular paper, the daily mail. It is great fun to watch as well. Basically you have paul baker who was the editor of the daily mailfor 20 years, and was kind of kicked upstairs dacre, and the new editor of the daily mail who has change the paper in many ways. And they clearly loathe each other, and although dacre is still the chairman of the group, he is now having a go at the guy who took over from hisjob as having a go at the guy who took over from his job as editor of the daily mail who was claiming that advertisers were coming back in large numbers as a result of the softer tone of the daily mail, and dacre says that is not true. It is a lovely spot to watch. Have you been following it at all . Well, it has been known that these two do not get along for quite some time, because of the rivalry when jordi greg was running the mail on sunday. It helps keep everyone healthy, i dont think it isa keep everyone healthy, i dont think it is a bad thing for the industry. The Daily Telegraph, locums and £3500 per shift as hospital crisis deepens. Not all of them, not all trusts, but yeah. The money does not go to locums themselves because they work agencies, huge commissions being paid at some of the ships are 32 hours, but it is awful, i think eve ryo ne 32 hours, but it is awful, i think everyone agrees that there should not be in a position where they have to pay this kind money. They are not paying this money because they want to, they are paying this money because they cant fill the ships that need to be filled with their own staff, and there are all sorts of reasons for that, but a lot of it goes back to government policy. The failure to invest in the staff sufficiently, and all sorts of problems over doctors and co nsulta nts, problems over doctors and consultants, pension arrangements, tax arrangements and all of that. It isa tax arrangements and all of that. It is a complete mess, we are heading into windsor and the nhs is going to be under extraordinary strain, people are going to not necessarily be able to get the care that they deserve, and they would be horrified to see this kind of money being wasted. Do you want to take us to the front page of the daily mail, talking about, is astounding this is still carrying on, and the myths surrounding jabs. We have had

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