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intimidation and bullying. china has been celebrating 70 years of communist rule — but in hong kong more violent demonstrations. the police have been using teargas, pepper spray and live rounds. and biologists have discovered one of the oldest remnants of evolution seen in humans yet. we'll have the details. 30 days til brexit is due to happen. we can bring you right up to date. we've started to get an idea on how the uk thinks it can leave the eu — and avoid border checks between northern ireland and the republic of ireland. this matters because it's the biggest single block to a deal on how the uk leaves. tony connelly from ireland's national broadcaster rte got the scoop on this. he put this on twitter late last night. the prime minister has since disputed that the leak is entirely accurate — but says he "accepts "the reality of customs checks". he's been interviewed by the bbc‘s laura kuenssberg. if the eu is going to insist on customs checks, as we come out, as it is, then we will have to accept that reality. and there will have to be a system for customs checks, away from the border. now, we think that those checks can be absolutely minimal and nonintrusive and won't involve new infrastructure. that is where the argument is going to be and that is where the negotiation will be. there would have to be checks, though, and that seems to be toxic toa though, and that seems to be toxic to a lot of people, so these are similar proposals to those which have been turned down many times before? we will see where it goes, and as you know we have made far—reaching proposals. you think this could win round the eu? yes, and i urge you to keep hope alive. if there is not a deal, whose fault will it be? i don't want to get into a blame game, but the uk has really moved a long, long way. you really believe that what you're about to put on the table could win round the eu? you really believe that? i absolutely do, yes, and i urge you, laura, to keep hope alive. this is not about people being hopeful, this is about whether the government can come up with a deal with the eu to protect the economy, jobs and livelihoods, this is not about telling people to cheer up. it couldn't be more serious. i know. it's also about getting brexit done on october 31, and in a way that protects the unity and integrity of the united kingdom, and we are entitled to protect our customs union and to exit as a sovereign state, so with great respect to all those who are currently anxious about the situation in ireland, we do think that our proposals are good and creative, but i accept also, laura, that there may be hard yards ahead. with great respect of those who are anxious about this, especially in ireland, we thing our proposals are good and creative, but i accept also that there may be hard yards ahead. the unionist dup party in northern ireland always seeks to defend northern ireland's place in the uk — and so always opposed any brexit deal that would treat northern ireland differently to the rest of the uk. here's one of its most senior figures talking to the bbc on these latest ideas. i think ithinka i think a deal is still possible, and what happened yesterday evening, whoever was behind it, certainly was not working towards a deal, i think this was an act of sabotage to make it more difficult in the negotiations but we have got to work oui’ negotiations but we have got to work our way through this, we saw this in northern ireland at critical stages in our negotiating process so it is not unfamiliar territory. ireland's deputy prime minister appears unimpressed. rob watson is at the conservative conference in manchester. the big takeaway from all of this is a realisation or a reaffirmation of something that if we had thought about it has been there all along, that under boris johnson about it has been there all along, that under borisjohnson britain is looking for the hardest of hard brexits and what i mean is that britain is looking for a post brexit britain is looking for a post brexit britain which will be a free trade agreement which will that sounds with the word free it will be super close, it won't be as close as it is now, and britain won't be in the eu single market which affects regulations, customs union which affects, the common trade policy towards the rest of the world, and because there is going to be the border between the uk and the eu on the island of ireland and also some form of customs checks. you heard from the prime minister if you like, the new bits, they will try to make those customers as unobtrusive as possible and not on the physical border, not right there where the official line is between north and south, because for 30 years during the troubles in such places were a target for attack for paramilitaries might be in no doubt, this is an outline of the post brexit relationship between the eu and the uk and it is a more distant one. we will hear from uk and it is a more distant one. we will hearfrom rob uk and it is a more distant one. we will hear from rob again uk and it is a more distant one. we will hearfrom rob again in a moment. i want to talk about something else the prime minister said today. he claimed, on radio earlier, that the cost of keeping the uk in the eu beyond october 31 would be £400 million a week, gross. this is the relevant section. £350 million on the side of a bus? since you want to drag that up, if we were obliged to stay in the eu we would need a bigger bust because the figure would go up. —— bigger bus. it would be £400 million gross. you know all about this bus. that conversation was referring to this bus — part of the leave.eu campaign in the lead up to the 2016 referendum. back then, the £350 million figure was criticised by the uk statistics chief as being "potentially misleading" — and now mrjohnson is suggesting a bigger bus. bbc reality check has looked at this. the uk's gross contribution to the eu budget is due to rise to £406 million a week by 2021 — so that is accurate. but that doesn't take into account the rebate the uk receives or eu funding given to farmers and to development projects. take those into account, and you're left with just over £210 million a week. just over half the gross figure the prime minister used. here's rob again. i think what you would say about borisjohnson is that i think what you would say about boris johnson is that this i think what you would say about borisjohnson is that this is the classic populist playbook, never apologise, never go back when it comes to figures or arguments, and interestingly of course, at the conservative party conference, the vast majority of delegates and many people who voted leave, they are inclined to dismiss this as re—fighting the referendum and just tune out, and it is one of those things which makes you realise that ina things which makes you realise that in a country which is now so deeply polarised as the uk, it is incredibly difficult to have even the semblance of a dialogue between people who are remainers and you wonder why, from their perspective, they think about why have you not woken up to this? and people who voted leave, they say they are not bothered about the detail, let's just get on with it, and how you bring these tribes together is going to bea bring these tribes together is going to be a challenge in the years and months ahead. putting it mildly. before we move on, i want to show you something else that happened at the conservative conference today. this could be a scene from a satirical tv show. thank you. what is this? no disposable cups. well, you could see the prime minister was handed a hot drink on his way into the conference but it was swiftly taken away — but you might have missed the aide saying "no disposable cups". here's one former advisor‘s take... some empathy for the situation of the advisers there, clearly worrying about the small things as well as the big ones. borisjohnson has made light of it. all very good, everyone enjoyed that. extensive coverage of the conservative party conference, all these speeches and all of the discussions, that is through the bbc news channel and the bbc news website. we have been talking about the backstop, that is one piece of jargon, and there are many pieces of jargon, and there are many pieces of jargon and there is a jargon buster on brexit on the bbc website whenever you are feeling confused. the conservative party conference has events in the evening, as well, we can speak tojonathan blake who has been at an event which i think the prime minister was also at. where have you been? the prime minister has made a surprise appearance at a reception hosted by the democratic unionist party who are important because they provide something of a level of support for him and his minority government at westminster and are crucial in terms of supporting any offer that the prime minister is going to make to the eu on the basis of getting a new deal and the prime minister tonight made a short but significant speech, i think, issuing something of a rallying cry to the dup, saying that northern ireland would remain part of the uk for ever and also that the uk had made progress in its negotiations with the eu in terms of effo rts negotiations with the eu in terms of efforts to reach a new deal and that in the coming days, in next few days, he said he hoped very much that they are going to get there. that is a timely comment from boris johnson, and i think we have heard this evening something of the detail of the offer he is proposing to make to the eu to do a new deal, and it sounds like he is hoping at least to agree something with the eu in the next few days. what about the atmosphere in the event? we have heard talk of open hostility towards the opposition and the media, from those in the audience in particular. i would not describe this as rowdy, but a lively reception in the conference hall behind me this evening, the prime minister came on stage with people chanting boris, boris comment he made a few digs at jeremy corbyn talking about wanting to put him in a proverbial rocket and launch him into space —— boris boris, and he made. and there was heckling at the mention ofjeremy corbyn, one made reference to humbug, the controversial comment he made in the house of commons last week in the highly charged debate about the prime minister's brexit strategy. the crowd were on his side for certain and that reflects a mood here amongst conservative party members in general who are hugely supportive of borisjohnson and his strategy as the slogan has it, get brexit done, but the reality of achieving that is something which is more complex than the simplicity of the slogan. thanks, jonathan. boris johnson is prime minister because theresa may resigned as the conservative party leader and so conservative party leader and so conservative party leader and so conservative party members ended up voting on the final candidates, and so voting on the final candidates, and so those members, some of whom are at the conference, they were the people who chose borisjohnson. we can now switch away from uk politics... the democrats' impeachment investigation over president trump's phone call with the ukrainian president is gathering pace. in the past few hours, the leaders of three us house of representative committees have accused the secretary of state mike pomepo of intimidating witnesses — adding that it "will constitute evidence of obstruction." earlier, pompeo made a similar accusation over the committees' attempts to question state department officials. this is the tweet. we can talk to anthony zurcher. there is a lot of noise and heat around the issue at the moment but what are the exchanges adding up to in terms of meaningful consequences for the impeachment process? what the democrats are trying to look at is any ties between rudy giuliani and the state department and trade —— from administration officials, this follows the phone call between donald trump and the ukrainian president, which showed donald trump was asking the ukrainians to work with rudy giuliani to look at any malfeasance by joe with rudy giuliani to look at any malfeasance byjoe biden who was vice president at the time and could be the presidential opponent come next year. was rudy giuliani acting on his own or in concert with the trump administration? then you could tie the administration to any misdeeds or actions on the part of rudy giuliani, so they have sent out subpoena is to gather documents, not only from rudy giuliani but also from members of the state department, and it seems rudy giuliani does not want to cooperate at the moment. stay with us for the moment, anthony. there's also been more attention on donald trump's conversations with foreign leaders. australia has confirmed that president trump asked its prime minister to help him with an investigation into the origins of the mueller inquiry into russian interference in the 2016 us election. this is a new york times story — its reporter katie benner has more. the robert mueller investigation as to whether russia interfered in the us election, that wrapped up in the spring and very soon after the investigation concluded there would be no criminal charges against donald trump. the justice department decided it would be appropriate to look into why was the trump campaign surveilled by us intelligence agencies in the first place, they wa nted agencies in the first place, they wanted a full review of this, which the president thinks is a worthwhile endeavour. in doing so that means that the justice department would wa nt to that the justice department would want to contact several other governments that had some dealings in that robert mueller investigation, so australia is a country that came up because the original tip about the trump campaign possibly having e—mails from hillary clinton came through australia, the uk, italy, several countries are the sorts of places that they might want to contact and it is clear from our reporting that they have asked the president to pave the way for him. australia's involvement in this story connects to this london wine bar in may 2016. this man, george papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to the then presidential candidate donald trump was having a drink with alexander downer, who had long served as australia's foreign minister and had become the country's high commissioner to the uk. during the meeting, mr papadopoulous told mr downer that russia had information that could damage the campaign of hillary clinton. mr downerflagged this in a diplomatic cable to australian officials, who tipped off their us counterparts. that in turn partially triggered the fbi investigation into russian interference in the election campaign, from which the mueller investigation followed. now — back to 2019. just what was said between president trump and prime minister scott morrison? here's katie benner again... it seems that the white house has been curbing access to a variety of the president's communications and this is something that arose in the early days of the administration because of how many lakes were happening. it is difficult to surmise whether or not this was happening because the phone calls themselves are outrageous orjust because it has become a matter of course within the white house. we don't know exactly what is being said in those phone calls. there's also this... the washington post is reporting that the attorney—general william barr held private meetings with italian and british intelligence officials to also ask for assistance with thejustice department's investigation into the origins of the mueller investigation. here's anthony zurcher in washington again. how much of this is normal and what we would expect from an attorney general? it reflects donald trump's fixation with the 2016 election hacking story and his feeling that he was persecuted by the us intelligence community, the deep state as he likes to call it, and that they were out to get him from the beginning. this is not news, we know donald trump has had a rivalry and animosity with the intelligence community even from before he was elected president. even after the robert mueller report concluded, it seems like he wanted to go back and re—litigate this and that is why he is sending william bar around and he has said publicly that is why he is sending him around to investigate these things —— william barr. tracking down the professor, they view him possibly as an agent set up to try to entrap george papadopoulos. this is a part of a larger scheme on the part of the trump administration, donald trump himself, and it is highly unusual for the attorney general to in—person be going around and doing these introductions and these research. —— this research. these introductions and these research. -- this research. anthony, thanks forjoining us. stay with us on 0utside source — still to come... a protestor has been shot by police using live rounds in hong kong, as another demonstration has taken place, this time arch on china's national day. in england, dozens of flood warnings have been issued as torrential rain sweeps across the north of the country. roads have been closed, landslides have blocked a railway line and people are trapped in their homes, as dan johnson reports. they are used to bearing the brunt of the weather, here. but in laxey, well, this was something else. some sandbags, there. that is actually the civil defence van that is supposed to be laying sandbags. talk about optimism in the face of adversity. we ran inside and then the next thing, it was like itjust came down and washed everything away. the van here got washed down, cars got washed down. a coast guard helicopter came to the rescue, as schools were closed and people were warned to get out or head upstairs. even those with the toughest gear struggled to make it, after a sudden torrent that ripped through one of this island's quietest corners. this is 0utside source live from the bbc newsroom. 0ur lead story is... borisjohnson says his new brexit plan will involve customs checks on the island of ireland — he says a deal with the eu could be reached within days. facebook‘s boss mark zuckerberg says it would "suck" if his firm had to fight a future elizabeth warren administration's plans to break up certain tech giants. zuckerberg's conversation to staff about the future of the social media giant was leaked. but senator warren, whose making the break up of big tech part of her pitch to be the next president — she responded. she has said she would very much support the fact that the current system and the way the tech firms work does not fit her vision of america. samira hussein is in new york. what is the context in which mark zuckerberg made these comments? he holds these are regular meetings with members of his staff in which people can ask him any questions they want about the future facebook and what he is thinking and he trusts they keep these conversations... but somebody recorded one of these conversations in which he was talking about elizabeth warren and what that might look like if she becomes president, how that may impact facebook, and in the audio recording that was leaked we heard mark zuckerberg said we could probably sue the us government andi could probably sue the us government and i think we would have a strong case, although he said he doesn't wa nt to case, although he said he doesn't want to be suing the us government, but that is the situation they are m, but that is the situation they are in, he said. elizabeth warren took to twitter after those comments, talking about the reasons why she believes it is important to break up some of these big tech giants. in terms of the practicalities of doing that, i don't understand, how would elizabeth warren or any other president go about splitting up a company like facebook? just because it would be a very arduous and complex task does not mean it is not important, and the same argument has been made about wall street and big banks, that ultimately there has been too much power that is resting in the hands of too few people. thanks forjoining us. we have another story which we have been breaking. meghan markle, the wife of britain's prince harry, has filed a claim against the mail on sunday newspaper over the publication of a private letter which her husband said showed she had become the latest victim of britain's tabloid media. extraordinary statement from prince harry and we will have more analysis in the next half an hour. good evening. let's bring you up to date on some of the big weather stories elsewhere in the world at the moment. first of all, we will head to northwest united states, and eastern canada. parts of montana, alberta, have seen record—breaking snowfall over the past few days. particularly montana, where browning received close to a season's worth of snow. this is a whole season of winter weather in the space of a few days. and don't forget, all of that took place in september. now, the cold air from that has spread eastwards across the rest of canada, still affecting the upper planes in the rockies. contrast that with very warm air to the south and east of the united states. now we get those contrasts, you often get the weather front in between, shows up nicely on the satellite imagery here, but it's been fed by moisture from what was tropical storm nada across northwest mexico, and that will bring in torrential rain, anywhere from northern mexico through to the midwest and the great lakes, as they finish to stay over there and go through into wednesday. with yet more rain and snow developing. across the same areas, seeing a lot of snow of late. and still, the temperature contrasts remain on wednesday. 6 degrees as a high in winnipeg there in manitoba, 34 celsius in georgia in atlanta. and whilst atlanta holds onto the heat, humidity, for a few more days, notice new york, it's pretty hot and humid here at the moment, but by thursday, we see a drop of temperature from 31 tojust 16 degrees. now, our next graphic takes us to eastern asia, taiwan, and in particular where we saw a major typhoon grazed the east of the island during the last couple of days. it's now moving its way northwards, itjust pushes to the east of shanghai at the moment, and then, as if they go into wednesday, it will curl its way northwards and eastwards. so it's going to spring some heavy rain across seoul and across south korea, that could cause widespread flooding. damaging winds, although winds ease in compared to what we have had. and rain sweeps eastwards across japan, heavy and thundery in places, not as significant as we've seen, but of course, rugby world cup going on, that may have an impact on some going into the matches. and of course by saturday, it will be england against argentina time in tokyo. could still be pretty hot, humid, with thunder and rain spreading eastwards in time for the match. but if that system moves a bit quicker, we will be into something a bit closer to what we feel here in the uk during the summer. now, ourfinal storm is lorenzo, here it is. in across the atlantic, swirling around, it was a category five hurricane, weakening, but as we go through into wednesday, it will click to the west of the azores, bringing hurricane force winds here, torrential rain, and more significantly, waves the height of a seven storey building. away from that, and across the rest of europe, it's a bit cooler really. north and west will have temperatures dropping and windy conditions over germany, denmark and holland, but separate to that, from heatin holland, but separate to that, from heat in the south—east, a lot of storms from italy through to poland, and if we return to lorenzo, it wea ke ns into and if we return to lorenzo, it weakens into this area of low pressure as we finish the week but thatis pressure as we finish the week but that is heading towards the uk and ireland. more on that in half an hour. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is 0utside source. borisjohnson says his new brexit plan will involve customs checks on the island of ireland — but he tells the bbc he's still confident the eu will agree to a deal. we do think that our proposals are good and creative, but i accept also, laura, that, you know, there may be hard yards ahead. the new border proposal gets a cool reception from dublin, we'll discuss whether it's likely to be a way to avoid a no—deal brexit. us secretary of state mike pompeo weighs in on the impeachment inquiry into president trump, trading accusations with the democrats of intimidation and bullying. china has been celebrating 70 years of communist rule — but in hong kong more violent demonstrations. the police have been using teargas, pepper spray and live rounds. and biologists have discovered one of the oldest remnants of evolution seen in humans yet. it involves babies and lizards. we'll have the details. the brexit debate once again is centring around the issue of the irish border. after brexit, it will be the only land border between the uk and the eu — with northern ireland and the republic of ireland potentially adhering to different rules, different regulations and different taxes on goods. here's emma vardy on some of the key questions about the border. how does the border work now? well, that is easy. it doesn't look like a boarder at all, just a bump on the tarmac. and it's an open border, because the rules on either side are the same. so there are cars and lorries passing here all the time without the need to stop any checks. but it wasn't always like this, though. during the 30 years of conflict here, the border had militarised checkpoints which often came under attack and because a large part of the population believe that the island of ireland as a whole should be one country, ending the violence meant removing any physical sign of a border, at all. what might the border look like in the future? that's the key question that's been holding up brexit. and causing uncertainty for thousands of businesses here, north and south. anything entering the eu has to meet its rules, so after brexit, goods will have to be checked somewhere. but the idea of customs posts are hated by many people who want the border to continue to look and feel invisible, as it is today. the prime minister, though, believes technology can help, such as using gps to track goods but the eu doesn't believe that technology is quite ready, yet. are there any solutions? there is one idea when it comes to farming and food. these cows in northern ireland, well, they could all be treated as irish cows. following the same food standards and regulations across the island of ireland. that would mean no need for checks on beef products crossing the irish border, but this kind of idea doesn't work for all products, so another option is moving that irish border into the irish sea, having the whole island of ireland following the same eu rules and regulations across all products. but this would be deeply unpopular with unionists, who don't want to see any differences between northern ireland and great britain when it comes to doing business. let's look in more detail at what proposals we may see from the uk government. there's the idea of "customs clearance zones" in both northern ireland, and the republic of ireland. the british government says there will be checks — but they won't be conducted along the border itself — and there will be no new physical infrastructure. customs officials would instead perform checks on goods either before they start their journey — for instance at a factory — or at their final destination, once they've crossed the border. the irish times is reporting sources in both dublin and brussels have already dimissed the idea as "plain bonkers". pat leahy from the irish times. he's been on the programme a few times to help us out, good to have you back on, pat, thank you for your time. why are people being so dismissive of this? why do they not see anything workable here?|j dismissive of this? why do they not see anything workable here? i think specifically what the report was referring to this morning, and that dismissal of the plans as being bonkers was the proposal that was lea ked bonkers was the proposal that was leaked last night in brussels and reported by the eu to irish radio and tv channel, which had proposals put forward by the british over recent weeks as part of these talks that are ongoing in brussels. that there should be customs posts on either side of the border, but set back 5—10 miles from the border, and that the border itself would be a sort of free zone, that would be monitored by cctv and gps, and so forth. and frankly, those proposals, though they were partially disavowed by borisjohnson this morning, were greeted last night in dublin and brussels pretty much with disdain, dismissed more or less out of hand, as evidence really that the british have yet to engage seriously in any search to find an agreed alternative to the backstop, and that is something that you hear again and again in brussels particularly, but also in dublin. and it's that, you know, that the british are not serious. borisjohnson, know, that the british are not serious. boris johnson, thus know, that the british are not serious. borisjohnson, thus far at least, been serious and any proposals that he's put forward. now we will see if that changes tomorrow after the tory party conference, when he is due, i believe, to present legally workable proposals to brussels. but it's fair to say that i think optimism is not high either here in dublin or in brussels. pat, we have heard some brexiters who would argue, look, the responsibility for avoiding no—deal lies notjust in westminster, but in dublin and in brussels as well. and if there's been an indication that perhaps the backstop could be replaced with something else, then perhaps the irish in the eu officials could support the uk and supporting, searching for that replacement. are you aware of any alternative to the backstop which are acceptable in dublin? well, what dublin says, and i think perhaps sometimes the irish government is perhaps guilty of holding onto the backstop and repeatedly requesting that the british go back to the original backstop, when it's fairly clear that in this part parliament, at least, and in this government at least, and in this government at least, the backstop is effectively dead. but what the irish in the eu are on firmer ground is that they have always said, well we agreed this backstop with the british government, if the british, the new british government wants to find, or wa nts to british government wants to find, or wants to propose alternatives to the backstop, then let them come forward with proposals that achieve the same thing as the backstop. the difficulty there is that the objectives of the british government have changed. theresa may undertook to re m ove have changed. theresa may undertook to remove the need for a border in ireland, but what boris johnson to remove the need for a border in ireland, but what borisjohnson has done is sent forward proposals to manage that border, and that's a very different thing. pat, thank you very different thing. pat, thank you very much indeed. those of you listening and watching, you can get pat's analysis and all of his collea g u es pat's analysis and all of his colleagues at the irish times as well via their website. more on brexit, of course, on the bbc website as well. for a moment, we will turn to hong kong. another extraordinary 24 hours. there's been violence in hong kong as china marks 70 years of communist rule — with one protestor wounded by live fire. tens of thousands of activists defied a police ban on them holding a rally. and there were clashes. demonstrators threw fire bombs, police used tear gas. here are images from earlier rolling the rally start out peacefully. thousands of activists walked with their umbrellas. but that didn't last. dozens of shops and metro stations had to shut. this is wong tai sin district. protesters threw fire bombs and set fire to barricades. next is quite an extraordinary report from the bbc‘s stephen mcdonell was at a protest in admiralty, in central hong kong, as the activists tried to breach police lines. these activists have been moving forward like this, in an attempt to challenge the police, they get to this stage. this warning from the police, who are now firing tear gas down at them, and they're attempting to reach where the police are. you can see rubber bullets being fired, hitting those activists. and it's going to be difficult for them to actually storm those steps, because the police have overwhelming firepower. now, this is not the way beijing would have wanted to celebrate its 70th anniversary of the communist party being in power, scenes like this. yet these activists, they don't mind causing this type of chaos. they think it helps their cause in pressing for democratic reforms in hong kong. and these are the more hardcore amongst the activists, i suppose you could describe them as that. they're moving right along there, maybe we can move in and just get a shot of them up close. they're down low to try and avoid these projectiles being fired at them from the police. and here comes a molotov cocktail, about to be thrown. small bang. it didn't go off very well. now the police coming down the stairs. shots fired. they're moving now up the stairs to try and reach where the police are, charging forward. the protesters have the numbers but the police are continually firing at them, round after round, of rubber bullets and tear gas. and now the protesters are retreating. gunfire. there have been too many rubber bullets fired, too much tear gas. they can't match that type of firepower from the police. gunfire. these protests began several months back in opposition to a now scrapped extradition bill — but they have morphed into a bigger anti—government movement. and they went on into the night. there was more tear gas, and watercannon was used both to drive back protestors and to put out fires. more than 50 protesters were hospitalised. and police made 180 arrests. the protests took place in central hong kong and in six other districts. chun—wan district is around 20km from the city centre — and it was there that a policeman shot an 18—year—old in the chest. the incident was caught on video. as you can see, the protester first hits the policeman — who fires back. the teenager is now in a critical condition in hospital. although lots of rubber bullets have been fired before — this is the first injury from a live round. police say the live fire was self defence and that the officer struck the protester in the shoulder. here's the hong kong police chief at a press conference earlier. translation: the shooting of a live round on the road was when a police officer was being jostled by rioters, and surrounded and attacked by huge number of writers. there was someone even pointing i hard pointed object at that police officer. other police officers tried to save him, but were attacked by bricks and rocks thrown by protesters. the life of the police officer who was on the ground was seriously endangered, so he fired one shot at the attacker. let's try and understand how the violence we've seen in the last 24 hours compares with the kind of protests that have gone before. here's bbc reporter, laura westbrook. police said that six live rounds were fired today, including that live round that was fired directly at a protester. which is the first time that has happened. now the police chief has called that lawful, and he's called that reasonable, but a lot of protesters are inflamed by that. they have already come out and said that they are going to escalate the violence on the streets, which is something that the police in hong kong will not want to see, making an already dire situation worse. china's authorities there were looking to mark the 70th anniversary, did they manage to do that in hong kong at all? so, a lot of things were cancelled in hong kong. they did hold a ceremony inside, but it is really striking seeing on one hand in china, these lavish ceremonies, this military parade, and then just across the street, just across the border in hong kong, people wearing black, tens of thousands of people taking to the streets in these violent scenes that we saw today, throwing molotov cocktails at the bank of china, and i think if authorities in hong kong thought that by banning these protests they could deter people, that really hasn't happened. and i think what has surprised many people in hong kong is the determination and the anger of these young people in hong kong. they see this as fighting for hong kong's future, and for hong kong's freedom. and that they say they will continue to protest until they get that freedom. so this looks reasonably intractable. stay with us on outside source, still to come... babies source, still to come... and the woman how scienc found babies and the woman how science has found that they have extra lizard—like muscles, which then are removed. they disappear before the babyis removed. they disappear before the baby is born. we will speak to the scientist behind this research. one of britain's rarest mammals is once again living in the forest of dean in gloucestershire. pinemartens, which are about the size of a cat, were hunted to extinction there a hundred years ago — now 18 have been relocated from scotland. sally challoner reports this is the moment the wild pinemartens were released from their secret holding pen into the forest of dean. transported the 200 odd miles from scotland last month, it's hope they'll establish, breed, and spread here. so when they come down from scotland, you put them in here for a few days, they are going to climatise to their surroundings, and when they are ready to go, and we are happy that they are safe and healthy, we open the gates, and out they go. this is everything a pinemarten needs. it's got a den box to sleep in, it's got a feeding station, and lots of cover as well to hide away. but it basically helps them get set up in the dean. habitat loss and over hunting meant pinemartens disappeared from these woodlands completely. our hopes hang on the success of this project. each of the pinemartens has a collar attached to it with a leather strap, which falls off naturally, if it gets caught on anything, they can pull it off. so it's really safe, you it's been used a lot for different mammals, and every night, we go out, and we basically worked out where they are going, where they are establishing territories, where they are denning down, just to keep an eye on them, so we know how they are doing. pinemartens aren'tjust an iconic native species, they'll also help to control the population of the non—native and very destructive grey squirrel. they are damaging our native broad leaf. so you can see here, this young oak that we've planted, this will never become a healthy tree, because it's been severely damaged at this early stage in its life. so you hope the pinemartens will predate on the grey squirrels? so evidence from scotland and ireland suggest that the pinemartens, almost introduce this climate of fear, so they, the breeding success of the grey squirrels is impacted, and they are also directly predated on by the pinemartens too. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is? boris johnson says his new brexit plan will involve customs checks on the island of ireland — he says a deal with the eu could be reached within days. now to another political crisis — this one in peru. it started when president vizcarra dissolved congress after it failed to back his anti—corruption reforms. opposition lawmakers looked at it differently, they say the dissolution amounted to a coup. they then suspended mr vizcarra and swore in the vice—president mercedes ara—oz as an acting leader. both are now claiming to be the legitimate leader of peru. well the presidential palace then sent out this tweet. it's in spanish, it says... the general commanders of the army, navy, and air force and national police of peru are reaffirming the government palace their full support for the constitutional order, and the president. and to that tweet, they added this photo of a meeting between their various heads and mr vizcarra at the palace in lima. that's not the only show of support for mr vizcarra. thousands of people gathered outside the congress building to show their support for him. let's hear from one of them. there is too much corruption, too much without shame, it was time for this to happen, for there to be a change. rafael rojas, bbc mundo, can mercedes araoz claim to be acting leader when she was sworn in after elections were dissolved?, —— help me understand why congress would've pushed back anti—corruption legislation? well, what we have seen through the, since the beginning of the 2016 presidential period, which started with president pedro, congress, which is opposition held, has been fighting back, because of the political tendencies of each of the political tendencies of each of the parties. president pedro back in the parties. president pedro back in the day was centre—right, the majority opposition party that is controlling congress is far right. and they managed to oust that president, and the situation has remained the same since the election of 2016. we will have to leave at there, we will come back to that story. thank you very much indeed, those of you who speak spanish, you can get more from bbc mundo dot com. now, the story i've mentioned a few times across the hour. biologists have discovered one of the oldest — and probably most fleeting — remnants of evolution seen in humans yet. it's right here in this scan. it's of the hand of a baby in the womb — and we can see extra lizard—like muscles. these muscles are then lost before birth. and there are a relic from the time reptiles transitioned to mammals, that was around 250 million years ago. they're also found in the foot, as this second scan shows. dr rui diogo is the lead author of the study from the howard university in washington. and i'm delighted to say hejoins us now. thank you very much, indeed. help us understand more about these muscles. what are they, and how do they connect to lizards? yes, thank you very much for having me. so, yes, what is amazing is that we saw these muscles in the embryos of humans, and it means that they are present in all embryos. we all have these muscles, and they normally disappear when we are born. some of these muscles come about ten of these muscles come about ten of these muscles come about ten of these muscles will disappear, or during our development inside of our mothers. in some of these muscles two or three of them are as you said, present only in lizards, or in salamanders, as adults. they are not found in any mammal. these appeared about 250 million years ago, but for some reason, they are present. and perfectly formed in human embryos. some of the other muscles that are present in disappear or lost later, let's say from monkeys to apes, and some were lost even later, let's say from apes to humans. so it's a mix of, a structure that normally disappears in the embryo, except in stages with birth defects. so, how do you explain to us that these muscles still exist? why is evolution not removing them? yes, that's a good question. what seems to be the case is that it's not so easy for evolution to say, look, if i have muscles, and normally what happens in human evolution, we lost a lot of muscles that... some muscles, a lot of them in humans have a very precise set of movements. orfor other have a very precise set of movements. or for other digits, that are very simplified animals, we don't need the other four digits as other animals, so we lost those ones, but it seems to be difficult to just delete all of them and just keep some. it seems that we have to first form the layer, a layer going to the five digits, than the muscles separates going to the digits, and then the one going to the back persist, and the other ones are disappearing during normal development. it seems to be impossible just to make everything disappearfrom impossible just to make everything disappear from scratch, except the one we need. evolution is more conservative in that. did you expect to find them when you started studying these scans? or wasn't surprise? so, some people a long time ago, they say perhaps these muscles were present, because they saw. . . muscles were present, because they saw... saw what seemed to be other animal muscles in the embryos of humans. but the techniques that we are humans. but the techniques that we a re really humans. but the techniques that we are really able to show them, so you can really see if they were there or not. so we could really see, as you have shown, with precision, how they are, and how many, because one of the things that is new is how many of these muscles is impressive. when we are seven weeks gestation embryos, we are so small,... and then during development and when we are adults, this hand here has only about 20 muscles. so we lose one third of the muscles. that number, and also many that were not described it for is what is really striking about this new study. my goodness, striking is the word. thank you very much indeed, absolutely fascinating, very grateful for you coming absolutely fascinating, very gratefulfor you coming on, thank you very much indeed, there is that story to be found as well in the science section of the bbc news website if you want to look at it more. extra neri story. now, let me just return to a story that's been breaking while we have been on air. the duchess of sussex has begun legal action against a british newspaper. this is a statement that's been released on the duke and duchess' website. it's a long statements, they have pulled out some of the key elements. this is some of the key elements. this is some agency copy that came in a little while ago. megan merkel, the wife of britain's prince harry has filed a claim against... he goes on, and let mejust he goes on, and let me just scroll through this a little bit. he goes on... as he emphasises, he tells us that the mail on sunday could not be reached for comment by reuters. i'm not aware that the mail on sunday has put out a response to this story yet. though i'm sure it will do in time. that's a developing story, an extraordinary statement from prince harry. if you want to read in full, you can find it online at the bbc, or on the bbc news app, or on our website. we will see you tomorrow. hello there. it's been a very wet start to this week, and the rainfall events which occurred during monday night into tuesday and on tuesday morning, we saw around 74 flood warnings across england and wales. that number has eased somewhat, and the good news is, it looks like the middle part of the week will be dominated by this ridge of high pressure, which will bring a lot of finance settled weather, and allow those flood warning numbers to drop even further. but it will be a short—lived settled spell, set to turn unsettled again by the end of the week. wednesday though, starts off very chilly, in fact, actualfrost across some northern areas. a really crisp sunny morning, and it stays dry and pray for most through the day. but it will stay windy across the north and east of scotland, and eastern parts of england with a few scattered showers here, wintry over the high ground. temperatures at best around 14—15d, generally the low teens celsius further north. so it will be noticeably cooler than it has been as of late. during wednesday night, it stays pretty chilly with clear skies. those winds gradually easing down across eastern areas, we will start seeing increasing cloud across the southwest. another chilly night to come, but maybe not quite as cold as what we will see on wednesday morning. still some really chilly spots they are across the scottish glens. let's have a look at what's happening later on in the week then, we need to look out into the atlantic to hurricane lorenzo, which is continuing to weaken as it pushes northeastward towards our shores. now this system will weaken as it reaches the cooler areas of the seas around the british isles. it's now looking like we've got a bit more certainty with it. it's going to arrive across western parts of ireland during the course of thursday, to bring some gales and heavy rain here. it now looks like it will start to sweep in across the rest of the uk as we had through friday. one thing it will do as well is push those blue, those colder colours northwards, and start to introduce something much milder from the southwest. so this is how thursday is shaping up at the moment. a dry and bright start for many central northern and eastern areas. still some cool air here, but it will be turning wetter and windier across western areas. that rain and wind arriving around the irish sea coast by the end of the day. and gradually, the temperatures will be on the rise across the southwest, but still another cool one in the northeast. then the remnants of lorenzo weakens rapidly as it sinks southeastward string friday, as it moves across england and wales. so it could be a fairly windy, wet start for northern ireland, northern parts of england, and wales, friday morning. but as it sinks southwards, the winds will tend to ease down slowly, as well the rain. with increasing amounts of sunshine. and we will have imported some milder air across the board friday, so we are looking at a high of 17, maybe 18 degrees, or even higher where we get those sunny spells. after friday, remnants of lorenzo moves on. it looks like we could see another spell of wet and windy weather during the weekend, particularly saturday night into sunday. brief ridge of high pressure, and another spell of wet and windy weather as we head on into next monday. notice, low pressure looks like it wants to park itself across the northwest of the country through tuesday and into wednesday. so judging by that pressure chart, it is looking slightly unsettled for the weekend and beyond, with low pressure nearby to bring spells of wind and rain. most of that rain affecting north and western areas of the country. but even the south and the east will see some rain, but also, lengthier dryer interludes at times. that's how it's looking, bye for now. the prime minister will submit his plans for a brexit deal to brussels tomorrow. borisjohnson will tell the eu it's his final offer and says there will have to be customs checks on the island of ireland. there will have to be a system for customs checks away from the border. now, we think that those checks can be absolutely

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