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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240714

Quite nervous with this storm. Subtle changes in the track could send an area of Even Stronger winds in across parts of the south east of the United States which is exactly why forecasters are monitoring this so why forecasters are monitoring this so carefully. For the uk we have a couple of weather fronts coming through on wednesday. Both of these fronts actually having cooler air following, so it will be a cooler day across the whole of the country. Rain clearing away from east anglia and south east england quickly. Sunshine follows. There will be some showers across sunshine follows. There will be some showers gcioss western sunshine follows. There will be some showers across Western Areas. Cloudy for Northern England, north wales, Northern Ireland and scotland, with burst of heavy rain. Northerly winds, strong and gusty, will bring cooler air into northern scotland. Temperatures in aberdeen 13 degrees in the afternoon. It will feel quite chilly here. The rain clears away and it will become dry as it goes through wednesday night. Wednesday for many of us will be quite a chilly night with temperatures getting down into low single figures. Eastern scotland, north east england, but another area of rain pushing into western scotla nd of rain pushing into western scotland overnight. That weather front will bring some rather murky conditions to western coast and hills, a bit of drizzle, some low cloud, mist and fog patches around as well. We will see some of that weather pushed across eastern scotla nd weather pushed across eastern scotland and pushed across into northern scotland as well. The driest weather across the south of the country. Temperatures recovering in belfast. Highs of 17 here, 15 in aberdeen. Slightly milder as well. A cold front bringing rain southwards across england and wales and behind the cold front, cooler air follows. Showers affecting North Western areas, some of those heavy and thundery. Some sunshine around but those temperatures generally easing around by a couple of degrees. There will be further swings in those temperatures as we head into the weekend, as well. Saturday for many of us quite a quiet day. There will be some cloud around but also some bright and sunny spells, perhaps some of these affecting south western wales, where temperatures could reach 19 degrees in cardiff, northern scotland, 13 and nothing especially specialfor this time of year. Sunday sees another warm front move across the country. The winds turned to a south westerly direction, a milder direction, and wherever we see some sunshine breaking through it probably wont feel bad at all. Temperatures up to 20 or so in london. Temperatures recovering further northwards, highs of 18 in belfast. Now, Hurricane Dorian is going to be grazing the east coast of the United States over the next few days, and this could still have a bearing on our weather. It looks likely that the hurricane will undergo its extratropical transition. It has transition to a normal area of low pressure which will head up towards the iceland area. We get a weather front associated with that low moving across the northern part of the uk, bringing some rain. Notice how the weather front is swinging and waving around, that is likely to bring some further swings in temperatures early next week but it could be wet at times across northern areas. Thats your latest weather. Goodbye for now. Hello. This is bbc news. Well be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment. First the headlines. The ayes to the right, 328. The noes to the left, 301. The ayes have it, the ayes have it. Mps have voted to take control of the commons by a majority of 27, which means a debate will take place tomorrow over plans to stop a no deal brexit. The pm called it a pointless delay. Because tomorrows bill would hand control of the negotiations to the eu and that would mean more dither, more delay, more confusion. And it would mean that the eu themselves would be able to decide how long to keep this country in the eu. Protestors celebrated outside the commons, as borisjohnson indicated he would push for an early general election. If mps vote tomorrow to stop the negotiations and to compel another pointless delay of brexit, potentially four potentially for years, then that will be the only way to resolve this. I can confirm that tonight we will be tabling a motion under the fixed Term Parliaments act. He wants to table a motion for a general election. Fine. Get the bill through first in order to prevent. In order to take no deal off the table. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are brexit editor at the telegraph, dia chakravarty and journalist at the wall street journal, anna isaac. Many of tomorrows front pages are already in. The guardian says its humiliation for Boris Johnson as a number of tory rebels turn against the government in tonights crucial brexit vote. And the metro also highlights how mps have chosen to take back control from the Prime Minister, in a bid to block a no deal brexit. The mirror leads with the same how borisjohnson has lost control of the commons and how the leader of the opposition, Jeremy Corbyn is bidding to take no deal off the table. The times front page pm loses historic vote. It focuses on how 21 tory rebels defied the government despite threats of expulsion from the conservative party from borisjohnson. And the telegraph with how the Prime Minister was forced by mps into seeking a snap general election if they choose to vote to block a no deal brexit tomorrow. The independent, a similar theme, explaining how borisjohnson has not only lost control of the brexit negotiations but has also lost his working majority as former tory mp phillip leejoins the lib dems. And finally, the i with the same headline, but focussing on how mps who voted against the government, including former chancellor phillip hammond, face deselection. We have heard tonight from government sources that they lost the conservative whip and have been kicked out of the party. So lets start with the times. The Prime Minister loses an historic vote. To be fair, not a huge surprise although maybe the scale of the defeat was a bit of a surprise. It isa defeat was a bit of a surprise. It is a large number of mps who voted against him from his own side. Certainly not a surprise that he lost but the level of drama gathered by some of the characters involved turning against the government was a surprise. You had the defection today of a prominent mp to the liberal democrats and now you have 21 tory mps, some of the most prominent mps in the party, effectively not being tories any longer. Philip hammond was chancellor six weeks ago and as far as we know from government sources he will no longer be a tory mp. There is a bit of lu on blue action to be expected and then there is a party genuinely falling apart and i think this is really where we are at right now. Is that how you see it . The Party Falling apart . This is the future, that for so long there has been a Massive Division over europe. But with 20 odd mps kicked out of the party there is a chance they could go and set up a rival conservative party do you think . They could. But i think the way our political system and our country has traditionally worked is that no parties have really done very well. This may change. Things have changed completely. Anna made an interesting point because she highlighted a massive realignment of politics that has happened in our country and we now see Philip Hammond six weeks ago chancellor, a tory chancellor and a traditional tory at that and he now seems to be working with Jeremy Corbyn who he would have called a sworn marxist not so long ago, to bring about something that they both think is important enough to set Party Political differences aside. It is incredible that doctor philip lee, who anna just mentioned to moved from the tories to the lib dems today, he had a bill in 2014 where he put in an amendment saying hiv positive immigrants should be ke pt hiv positive immigrants should be kept out of the country. He was clarifying that earlier today. But there is another liberal democrat now, a previously tory person, doctor Sarah Wollaston who was a signatory on the same amendment. But now the only thing that matters to all politicians is being pro brexit or pro remain. What do you think happens next, anna . On some papers they say that Boris Johnson has lost this vote and he cannot get a vote through for a general election. So he is stuck. It is difficult because the labour position on whether or not it wants a general election and the timing thereof has been very difficult to pin down recently. Much has been made ofJeremy Corbyn s remarks this evening when he said that we can have a general election if you want one but only when this bill that will avoid a cliff edge no deal on october 31 is passed. That may be as soon as friday that the dealers passed but we do not know what would happen if boris tries to have a vote and election in the meantime. If he does not get an outright majority on that vote, what might the prospect before a simple majority if that comes in the next few weeks, for him to try and get the fixed Term Parliament act working in his favour a second time. Labour effectively are saying that it would be a trick and that although the government are now talking about an election on october 15 that actually maybe. Say he has an election, he would have it after we fell out of the eu, sometime in november. Labour main concern, i think, is when will the date be . Again, it shows trust broken down between two parties that even people within the party. Someone was saying just the same thing. It still seems difficult for labour whose narrative over the last two years is that we must get rid of the tory tiring, but now they say lets not have an election just yet. We tiring, but now they say lets not have an electionjust yet. We might be able to get it through if they can push the mantra that we just need no deal of the table but again i think they will keep being needled by the Parliament Conservative saying if you want an election, give us one. Saying if you want an election, give us one. The guardian talks about humiliation for Boris Johnson us one. The guardian talks about humiliation for borisjohnson and he loses an historic vote. Listing some of the rebel mps and we gather that the 21 tory mps have been told they are out of the party tonight. That includes sir nicholas soames, Winston Churchill s grandson. This is serious stuff within the conservative party. The father of the house, ken clarke. Philip hammond, another who will no longer bea hammond, another who will no longer be a tory. It is extraordinary. And we have heard in recent days how these rebels were called into number 10 and discussions were had. They tried to avoid this defeat and they did notjust accept it would happen and tried to ride out the storm. They tried to avoid it. And by what threatening to withdraw the whip, they made people doubled down on their position. And now, the brexiteers have a long history of rebellion themselves and now these pre european rebels are not being disciplined but also kicked out of the party. I think they would have been emboldened by the 2016 referendum result and now they have the country support behind them and thatis the country support behind them and that is how they want to view it and therefore they would want to deliver it. But i think many people who perhaps did not campaign or even vote for brexit within the conservative party and even within the parliamentary party, now feel that if brexit is delivered not only will the party be destroyed but the country will also suffer a serious lack of trust between politicians. Lets go to the telegraph, your paper. Their headline is that Boris Johnson demands an election. The introduction and the story is the borisjohnson introduction and the story is the Boris Johnson last night introduction and the story is the borisjohnson last night was introduction and the story is the Boris Johnson last night was forced into sneaking seeking a snap election after falling victim to an unprecedented parliamentary coup. Is this a coup orjust a vote by the house of commons . Everything depends on how you see it. Is prorogation a coup by the executive . It is unprecedented for the parliament to take control of treaty negotiation. Surely a democratic vote in a democratic Parliamentary Institution cant be a coup, can it . I am sure many people would agree with you, but a fair few people would think we do have separation of power in that the executive is entrusted with negotiating treaties, and indeed signing treaties. That power will decidedly be taken away from the executive tomorrow if the no deal brexit bill goes through. And interestingly, also in the telegraph isa interestingly, also in the telegraph is a new opinion poll quoting yougov saying the tory lead if and when we get this election, we dont know when it might be, but the tory lead has been stretched to ten points, 35 25 . Yes, it is really hard to pin that down. Polls are so time sensitive, we dont know how people will have reacted to the fallout from todays developments. What is interesting in that poll is a lot was made of the fact that the tories with their Hardening Line on a no deal brexit pulling some power from the brexit party we saw at local elections and european elections, and were walking that line quite carefully a nd and were walking that line quite carefully and saying we would like a deal but we are prepared for no deal. You had Jacob Rees Mogg trying to reinforce that earlier this evening saying that we are good boy scouts, we are well prepared. But working that line picks up on what we are all saying that his argument was that parliament derives its sovereignty from the people, and therefore the referendum is still therefore the referendum is still the ultimate arbiter of that sovereignty, but whether or not that pole lead can be maintained when walking this line of we want a deal but we are prepared to push hard for no deal if that is the only alternative we can get where it is a cce pta ble alternative we can get where it is acceptable for us in terms of the irish backstop. Thatjust became a lot more difficult. Lets go on to the independent. It has a headline with Boris Johnson the independent. It has a headline with borisjohnson scratching his head, ruffling that famous hair. Saying he loses control. Again, that slightly colourful language . He is still Prime Minister. He has obviously lost his working majority, down to 20 or 22 or something now. What has he lost control, is that overstating it . You make a fine point. The opposition parties may actually want to keep him as Prime Minister, if they dont give him the election they are after. But he has lost control of the agenda from 3pm tomorrow onwards, it will be the commons that takes over the agenda in the house of commons, which is traditionally the executives prerogative. So in that sense it is true. I think there is quite a long way to go from actually being able to write borisjohnson completely off as to write borisjohnson completely offasa to write borisjohnson completely off as a Prime Minister yet. I think there will be divisions that will be preventing the rebel alliance, if you like, to also put forward a leader who could actually challenge him in any meaningful way. So ultimately me might have a situation where there is a void. To quote churchill, it is all powerful, to be impotent. We dont know what they will do with this power. If the election is soon and he loses he will be the shortest serving Prime Minister in history, apparently. Yes, i think it is Something Like 190 days. Not very long. Two not very long at all, i think it is 1827. And for a man who has wanted thejob all his 1827. And for a man who has wanted the job all his life, that would be a difficult moment. If he does get an election it is a big gamble. A difficult moment. If he does get an election it is a big gamblem is one that he cares about on a personal level, and he has onlyjust got his dog in the house. Lets conclude with the metro. Mps take control. I suppose a lot of play on ta ke control. I suppose a lot of play on take back control, which was the vote leave slogan, so a lot of papers talking about parliament effectively taking back control. And it has, but if you remember, it had taken back control once before with an amendment earlier and then it failed to do anything with it. So just like the government keeps saying, or theresa mays government kept saying, i keep bring back a deal and you keep voting it down but Parliament Never actually tells us what it will stand behind and that remains an issue for parliament. I dont really see what if any majority there is within this current structure to actually provide a solution. They take back control from the executive, then what . The point remains. Control from the executive, then what . The point remainslj control from the executive, then what . The point remains. I suppose what . The point remains. I suppose what they are in favour of his another delay. That is what the government would say, that is what they are united around. Not com pletely they are united around. Not completely united, but that is what the vote in favour tonight was effectively for another delay. The vote in favour tonight was effectively for another delaylj think we have known for a long time that the only consensus parliament has is that it doesnt want to know deal brexit. As we said, there is no consensus

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