Transcripts For BBCNEWS Afternoon Live 20240714 : comparemel

Transcripts For BBCNEWS Afternoon Live 20240714

They are indeed. Steady progress for england on the second day so far of that first ashes test at edgbaston. They have had a bit of luck along the way but rory burns has just passed 50, england 88 1. Thanks, hugh. And louise has all the weather a bit quieter out there. It certainly is. Im pleased to say that we have got sunny skies, and the showers are few and far between today, a much better picture in parts of derbyshire. Ill have the Bigger Picture coming up in half an hour. Thanks, louise. Also coming up is this your aircraft, sir . The plane that landed on a busy street and had the police to answer to. Hello, everyone this is afternoon live im martine croxall. Raf helicopter crews are trying to save a dam in derbyshire amid fears it could burst and engulf much of the town of Whaley Bridge. The chinooks are dropping bags of sand, gravel and stone to shore up the dam wall. Experts say the situation is critical. Around 1500 residents were moved out of their homes yesterday. The Prime Minister has said his thoughts are with them and the governments Emergency Committee cobra is meeting this afternoon. From Whaley Bridge our correspondent laura foster reports. The rain has gone, but the hard work goes on. Chinook helicopters have been flying in every 10 minutes since 5. 30 this morning, each armed with tonnes of sand, and gravel. They have moved 200 tonnes so far, but engineers say they need to move at least double that to shore up the dam wall. All of the gravel coming from local quarries. Its a really difficult task for crews, we are being asked to get a real precision drop. Weve got to get as low as we can, you can see behind us that the guys and girls are taking a bit of time to get in there. Also we have got to make sure its done not too high, so we dont put more stress on to the dam itself. But also we have got to get them into sort of centimetre square areas, so its a bit like a big lego block were building. We have got a foundation in there and were carrying on building each on top of each other. The problem is this spillway, damaged after a months worth of rain here fell in a single week. Its putting the hundreds of homes that lie below it in jeopardy. The plan really for the fire service is to stop water coming into the reservoir. We are using the chinook and the raf co ordinated to dam up these inlets and at the same time get as much water out of reservoir as we can to take pressure off the dam wall. Because theres still a real risk that it could collapse . Yes, the Structural Engineeron site, hes very concerned about that and basically the information we have had is we have to do something here, because its not going to go away on its own. Meetings like this have been happening throughout the night and all through this morning. Its a really joined up operation here. Right now the engineers are trying to clear land so they can put more water pumps in. The idea is if you can reduce the amount of water in the reservoir, it reduces the pressure on the dam. After the dam spillway partially collapsed yesterday afternoon, People Living in Whaley Bridge were told to evacuate as the town could be flooded. Most stayed with friends and family. Some were put up in hotels. 0thers used camper vans. Our house is about 30 feet from the river, so its pretty risky really. So, i dont know if the dam went, i dont think wed have a house, to be honest. The Prime Minister has called an emergency cobra meeting this afternoon to discuss the situation. Engineers are still assessing what exactly caused the dam to partially collapse, but all the people who live here care about is that the warm sunny weather continues and if and when they may be able to go back home. We can speak now to plymouth Sutton Devonport mp luke pollard, who is the shadow fisheries, flooding and water minister. Thank you very much forjoining us. What are your thoughts when you see these pictures from derbyshire . The initial focus needs to be to ensure that all of the resources the Emergency Services need are being provided to the rescue effort to make sure the dam can be saved and there is no potential breach of the dam. We need to look at the adaptations that we need to cope with Climate Change because we know we will get more extreme weather in the future, which means more water at certain times of the year, less water at other times, and that means we will need to look at all of our infrastructure, to look at whether we have a truly resilient water system, because at the moment, we are not ready for Climate Change, not ready for the 2 degrees rise thatis not ready for the 2 degrees rise that is predicted by some now, let alone the four degree rise in Global Temperatures that the committee on Climate Change is suggesting that the uk needs to brace itself for. We have known about the risks from Climate Change for decades, so why are we not better prepared . Climate change for decades, so why are we not better prepared . |j Climate Change for decades, so why are we not better prepared . I think the country has been far too slow to adapt, but we are starting to take those steps. Parliament agreed a few months ago to a labour motion declaring a Climate Emergency. That motion said we are on the cusp of an emergency, and if we dont act quickly, we wont be able to stop irreversible Climate Change. That means we need to see a different type of activity from the government. The Environment Agency have said that they need £1 billion a year to avert catastrophic flooding not only in coastal areas but around our rivers as well. They are not funded anywhere near that level at the moment. I think we need to be more honest and say we need transformative to be more honest and say we need tra nsformative change in to be more honest and say we need transformative change in our economy and how we run it, to cope with Climate Change. More extreme weather, as we have seen in derbyshire and around the country, is going to be the norm in the future, so we need a much more resilient infrastructure both for water, transport, housing and Everything Else as well, and we are going to have to find new ways of paying for that. That is why labour has said we want to bring the water industry back into Public Ownership and use the dividend is currently leaking out of the system to pay for private shareholders to invest in that Climate Change mitigation. We are on the cusp of a Climate Emergency and we cant keep going on as we have in the past, so we need swifter action by ministers notjust to look after our Water Infrastructure but to look after those vulnerable areas that will be affected by Climate Change, and that is right around the United Kingdom. What about some of the Planning Decisions that get taken . Some residents are saying they are baffled by the fact that a school was built at the base of this dam. Many properties have been built over the years on flood plains, and then we wonder why they flood. What will change locally in terms of Planning Decisions . We have made bad decisions . We have made bad decisions as a country over the yea rs, decisions as a country over the years, and that means we have to look again at some of those. Steps have been taken in wales, where there is the first town in the United Kingdom with an evacuation plan to cope with Climate Change. We wont be able to protect it from rising sea levels in the future. That is an extreme case of the adaptations that we will need to put in place, but we need to spend more on flood defences. Some of those will be big steel and concrete barricades, and others will be a greater focus on planting, barricades, and others will be a greaterfocus on planting, changing the way that agriculture uses land to hold more water in the event of heavy rainfall, but we need a com plete heavy rainfall, but we need a complete system change. We wont be able to cope with Climate Change are full we wa nt able to cope with Climate Change are full we want to do is continue the way that we currently lead our lives. We will need to reflect on the fact that Climate Change needs a transformative the fact that Climate Change needs a tra nsformative change in the fact that Climate Change needs a transformative change in the way that we all run our lives and regulate the country if we are to fight it properly. That is reducing carbon and also preparing for the baked in temperature rises we see because of the amount of carbon we have emitted in the past. There are big challenges ahead, and i am still concerned that the government isnt grasping that in putting the resources where they are needed the most. We know we will need to spend more on flood defences, but the government is still not spending anywhere near the amount of money that their own flood Defence Agency saysis that their own flood Defence Agency says is needed to be spent, so there are Big Questions to be asked. Finally and briefly, i must ask about the poor showing by labour in the brecon by election last night. How do you account for it . It is a seat that labour is not normally competitive in, so i can understand why they came forth. It was a good win for the lib dems and showed that the message that borisjohnson is taking to the country isnt one that is already popular with voters. I wa nt to is already popular with voters. I want to see a general election, to see the chance to put the labour ma nifesto to see the chance to put the labour manifesto to the people and change the course of the government we have got. There are big challenges for all Political Parties at the moment, but i think the best way of approaching those is not to hide away but to face up to them and say, look, we will need to have those conversations with voters, keep going, and now we move onto another by election the one we have seen in wales. Luke pollard, thank you very much joining wales. Luke pollard, thank you very muchjoining us. Boris johnsons working parliamentary majority has been cut to just one after the liberal democrats won the by election in brecon and radnorshire. The party overturned a conservative majority of 8,000 to clinch the seat byjust over 1a hundred votes. Labour were beaten into fourth place by the brexit party. The new mpjane dodds said voters had chosen hope over fear. 0ur wales correspondent tomos morgan reports. In a brexit voting area, a remain party coming out on top. I do hereby declare thatjane dodds is duly elected member of parliament for the said constituency. The clear message from the constituencys new mp to borisjohnson. My very first act as your mp, when i arrived in westminster, will be to find mr borisjohnson, wherever he is hiding, and tell him it loud and clear, stop playing with the future of our communities. It was celebrations all around in brecon this morning. The liberal democrats victory means the party finally has a seat again in wales and it is a first boost for their new leader. This result sends the message that liberal democrats are winning again. And it comes off the back of her local election success, our best ever European Election results, and it is clear that people dont have to settle for either Boris Johnson orJeremy Corbyn. The liberal democrats are providing a positive alternative and here in brecon and radnorshire people have voted for that in their droves. This by election was triggered following conservative chris davies conviction in march of submitting false expenses. The result means the tories have a narrow majority of just one in westminster. It is never easy having a tiny working majority but the broader point is it will not distract us from what we have explicitly promised to do. That is deliver brexit so we can seize the opportunities it provides. This constituency lies within the county of rural powys, where the brexit party came out on top in the european parliamentary elections. It comes as no surprise that the brexit party came third. And brexit was no doubt a hugely contributing factor amongst constituents. We voted to come out and that is the reason we are here. It is driving us up the wall. I have heard too much about brexit, yes. I voted liberal alliance. The narrow victory for the lib dems was helped by the other remain parties, plaid cymru and the greens, choosing not to stand, handing the victory to jane dodds with just over a thousand votes. Labour suffered a significant blow, falling to fourth, prompting further questions about its stance on brexit. Constrtuctive ambiguity has not helped us in the last few years. We have tried to say to brexit voters, we are in favour of brexit, but we are in favour of remain. Without a doubt this is a blow for the new Prime Minister. He was in wales only on tuesday and came to the constituency to try and gather support for his man, but that just wasnt enough. His first Electoral Task failed. Boris johnsons task of getting any future brexit vote through parliament has become trickier. 0ur political correspondent, peter saull is at westminster. The lib dems really had this seat in their sites, didnt they . Yes, they used to have an mp there. It was a lwa ys used to have an mp there. It was always going to be a two horse race between the lib dems and the conservatives. The lib dems did particularly well because of this remain alliance that they have formed with applied camry and the greens, the two other pro remain parties. It was the first electoral test for that remain United Initiative they are pushing forward now. In a general election, it would be interesting to see where the lib dems would be willing to repay the favour, so to speak. 0verall, leave parties did better than remain parties. The share of the brexit party and the conservatives was bigger than that of the lib dems, but that is an issue for Boris Johnson, just over a week into his premiership. He has not been able to see off the brexit party even if he did not lose quite as many votes to them as some people expected. In the last few moments, Jeremy Corbyn has been giving his reaction to the labour partys fourth place finish. I thank our team for the work they put in. The liberal democrats one might get after doing a deal with plaid cymru and the greens. We will continue to put forward our message of anti austerity, something the lib dems cannot do. Labour came behind the brexit party was that down to leadership or labour plus s confused position . I think the majority of people wanted to get rid of the conservatives and voted accordingly. Jeremy corbyn. Thank you forjoining us this afternoon. The conservatives are saying that you played the system and did a dirty back room deal. What is your response . That is pretty rich coming from the conservative party, who made a £1 billion bung to get the dup on site and have been playing second fiddle to do the dup to keep them happy for the rest of the time. That should have been equivalent to wales and scotland and wasnt. They were crawling out as best they could from the desperate position in which they found themselves. I am sure they would say that this is how confidence and supply agreements work. Where does this leave your party, if it has formed this alliance with the lib dems and is prepared to stand back and in effect you have not allowed your supporters the chance to vote for you and have a full choice of candidates . It is difficult for any party to behave in a different way, and parties in the uk are used to being adversarial. You might consider whether that is actually one of the problems of the politics of the United Kingdom that it is adversarial in Party Interest first in every case. That is the problem we pays for we face for labour and the tories. This was difficult for plaid cymru and we have supporters who were disappointed they couldnt vote for a plaid cymru representative in brecon and radnorshire. We did this for a reason, which was that brexit is the worst threat facing wales. 0ur communities, our culture, our language and our economy, and if we call ourselves the party of wales, then we put wales first, before the party. In this instance, in order to ensure that remain had the best chance of winning, we stood back, took the initiative. We are one of the leading voices of this in the first instance. We took a step back for wales. If we hadnt done that and set that tone, we could be facing another brexit mp back in place, back in westminster doing the damage to our economy and our communities, which well for your. You have put yourselves in an alliance with parties that are anti brexit, not just no alliance with parties that are anti brexit, notjust no deal, and yet, overall, wales voted to leave, so yet, overall, wales voted to leave, so what do you tell those leave voters when you are trying to frustrate that vote in 2016. My party has behaved since the referendum to try to explain to people as best we can have damaging the lies and the falsehood and the fantasies and ideology being presented through brexit

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