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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the conservative commentator tim montgomerie and chief executive of the cross—party think tank demos, polly mackenzie. welcome back. thank you both. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in — and they are dominated by borisjohnson‘s win in the conservative leadership contest. the i says borisjohnson will be appointed as the uk's 77th prime minister tomorrow afternoon with a promise to deliver brexit and unify the nation. the metro carries a picture of mrjohnson saluting the party faithful outside conservative hq - and it references the ‘dude‘ acronym which the new prime minister referred to in his acceptance speech. the express says borisjohnson will unleash ‘the spirit of can—do‘ as he aims to deliver on his campaign promise of taking the uk out of the eu by the end of october. the telegraph looks ahead to boris johnson's first day in number 10, with the new prime minister set to appoint the most ethnically diverse cabinet ever — and more women in senior positions. the guardian says mrjohnson has fulfilled a life—long ambition in becoming prime minister. the mail asks for borisjohnson to let the sun shine on the uk by delivering brexit. and finally for the mirror — boris johnson's appointment as prime minister is no laughing matter. well, it is headlined to headline, all the front pages are all boris johnson. but they all have a slightly different take on the challenge ahead for him. so, polly, let's start with the front page of the times. johnson goes to work. this is about his appointment of his cabinet. yes. a huge amount of detail in this article on the front of the times. it starts with the rumour, i guess, of the times. it starts with the rumour, iguess, it of the times. it starts with the rumour, i guess, it still is, that you patel, who had to resign after she had a meeting with the israeli government without telling anybody while she was on holiday there, will return to government in potentially a role as important as home secretary. a huge promotion for her and part of the times and others are calling the most ethnically diverse cabinet we have ever seen. on that note, there is the suggestion that sajid javid might become the chancellor. also the suggestion that liz truss is up for that job. whatever happens one of them will be disappointed, because both names have been heavily circulated throughout the whole leadership campaign. and then mentions of other ethnic minority conservative mps, alex brummer, su, who may be promoted. he has mediapoint a mark spencer as chief whip —— made the appointment. also olly foster, the dup leader, has confirmed, she has confirmed that they will support the conservative, —— aileen foster. . also that the details will be reviewed. nothing will be easy for borisjohnson. reviewed. nothing will be easy for boris johnson. no, indeed. tim, interesting the ethnic diversity of this new cabinet, if that is indeed what happens. because borisjohnson has been criticised for some of his previous journalism and the terms that he would use. yes. what a hope is that, a lot of people concentrate on the words that donnal... boris johnson sometimes puts out there and they are controversial and we should hold him accountable for that, but we should judge him largely by his deeds. and on lots of issues like homosexual other, for example, he has said some controversial things in the past, but was one of the earliest backers of gay marriage. and i think if he builds a cabinet which really is the most ethnically diverse, that matters more than a few ill chosen remark in a newspaper column. but the person who probably most deserves credit for his ability oi’ most deserves credit for his ability or his option to build this ethnically diverse cabinet is david cameron. david cameron, when he was tory leader, was the one who pushed a more diverse candidates' list. it has taken a little while, because mps have to be elected, they have to get ministerial experience. but it is because of the work that david cameron did over a decade ago that there are now so many tory mps of different ethnic backgrounds that this is possible. it is exciting. we will go on to another front page on just a moment. just on the issue of borisjohnson. you just a moment. just on the issue of boris johnson. you are just a moment. just on the issue of borisjohnson. you are making a good point earlier about boris johnson choosing his audiences and using different language for different audiences and how that might become more difficult now borisjohnson is a consummate writer of columns. more difficult now borisjohnson is a consummate writer of columnsm gives great speeches. he gives great bombast. what he does is he manages to select words and language that can appeal to the audience that is in the room. but, remember, when he was london mayor he also put forward a whole set of policies that just aren't compatible with what he now advocates. for example, he lobbied with citizens uk, a migrant rights organisation, for an amnesty for illegal immigrants, which you can't imagine is compatible with what priti patel might do as home secretary, certainly. he has refloated that idea, though. he hasn't backed off that immigration amnesty. i think the challenges he is in favour of whatever works for the moment. and once your prime minister your decisions your words have to become decisions. in that ability to play to the audience is undermined by the fact that you're responsible for everything you and that ability. one of the real possibilities, though, one reason i am excited about borisjohnson, because of brexit, the right, in inverted commas, believe in him. and if he delivers brexit they will be very loyal to him. they possibly give them the freedom to do a few more innovative things on other issues that, perhaps, another tory might not get away with. and if you do have someone, say sajid javid stays at the home office, or priti patel becomes home secretary, again, having an ethnic minority there also potentially opens up more options on immigration reform, et cetera. so i think we will be in for lots of surprises with borisjohnson as leader. but he has got the right of his party locked if he delivers on brexit. i know that's a big if. big if! and that i think will mean that some of the other things he does, he can reach out to the centre. ok. we go to the front page of the guardian. it is also looking at his appointment of his cabinet. polly, this discussion of that crucial role, chancellor. yes. i mean, borisjohnson crucial role, chancellor. yes. i mean, boris johnson has crucial role, chancellor. yes. i mean, borisjohnson has many strengths, but he is, think his supporters would even attest, not really a details person. and we remain in an extremely difficult person with regards to brexit and the economy and also with regards to fiscal policy. he has promised a huge number of tax cuts. he has promised an increase in education spending. a state backed insurance scheme for social care. and we know that the changing demographics in the next 10—15 years will increase the next 10—15 years will increase the tax gap has various taxes declined and what revenues they raise and demands on services from the ageing population... you can tell you work for... the ageing population... you can tell you work for. .. yes. she noticed. the chancellor has such an importantjob. noticed. the chancellor has such an important job. if boris johnson noticed. the chancellor has such an importantjob. if borisjohnson puts in another person who is not a details person, then who is going to navigate this tricky economic landscape of the next ten years? in the end, boris johnson landscape of the next ten years? in the end, borisjohnson can give some great speeches. you may, as tim says, be able to pivot on some liberal social policy, that would be fantastic, but he can't do anything if there is no money in the kitty and that requires good management from the economy. the two most importantjobs... from the economy. the two most important jobs. .. and i from the economy. the two most importantjobs... and i agree with everything you just said. they are number 10 everything you just said. they are numberio and number”. everything you just said. they are number 10 and number 11. part of the problem during the theresa may years was there was no balance. we had two overcautious people at the heart of government. hammond and made. what boris needs to balance him is not another boris site figure in number 11 another boris site figure in number ii but somebody who immerses himself in the detail —— boris style. an authority across whitehall and knows how whitehall works. an incredibly important appointment. the other important appointment. the other important decisions on the speculation that borisjohnson offered jeremy hunt, who he defeated in this context, the role of defence secretary. which is a big job in government but a demotion from foreign secretary. jeremy hunt has a p pa re ntly foreign secretary. jeremy hunt has apparently rejected that and he wa nts apparently rejected that and he wants one of the three top jobs or he will leave. so that's a big call as well. it is borisjohnson really prepared to let the guy who's just won a third of the support of tory members and has a loss of support in the parliamentary party, is he going to let him leave government will he give him what he wants? it is that fundamental decision, balancing decision for prime ministers is do you want your enemies inside the tent or do you want them outside the tent? it is a part of that metaphor. it isa tent? it is a part of that metaphor. it is a family programme. that is the question. for tony blair, for example, a majority of 170, you could afford to have as many enemies you like on the backbenchers, because there were so many people to go around in every division. as we we re go around in every division. as we were just talking on the dup are propping up the conservative party. they have a majority of three. one of theirmps has they have a majority of three. one of their mps has just they have a majority of three. one of their mps hasjust been charged with sexual assault. they are potentially going to lose the bracken rack and by election. there are i’uitioui's bracken rack and by election. there are rumours of the server backbenchers defecting to the liberal democrats. he is majority is so liberal democrats. he is majority is so fragile... i think you are using the wrong word. i don't thinkjeremy hunt is an enemy of borisjohnson. the wrong word. i don't thinkjeremy hunt is an enemy of boris johnson. disappointed friends... hunt is an enemy of boris johnson. disappointed friends. . ij hunt is an enemy of boris johnson. disappointed friends... i think jeremy hunt's problem is he is too much of a nice guy. i think you can move him out. he was an entrepreneur, did you know?|j move him out. he was an entrepreneur, did you know? i think jeremy hunt would be loyal from the backbenchers. if he was more prickly borisjohnson would backbenchers. if he was more prickly boris johnson would probably backbenchers. if he was more prickly borisjohnson would probably have to keep him in the cabinet. we will see. we will see very shortly. a couple of front pages talk about boris johnson's style couple of front pages talk about borisjohnson's style pulled up and there's a lot to talk about. we go to the front page of the daily mail. tim, bring us sunshine. and hasn't it been hot today? what a scorcher. i actually think this really matters. i have been in a twitter scrap with people about this today. for the parliamentary arithmetic for borisjohnson is really difficult. a lot of people who focus on politics say that is almost all that matters. i think the crucial ingredient of leadership is giving the nation hope. giving the sense that we can do things. napoleon, i think, hope. giving the sense that we can do things. napoleon, ithink, set hope. giving the sense that we can do things. napoleon, i think, set a leader is a dealer in hope. and for all of theresa may's skills, don't think she was a persuader, i don't think she was a persuader, i don't think she was a persuader, i don't think she really believed in the brexit project. i think she saw brexit project. i think she saw brexit as a risk minimisation exercise, rather than a new chapter for britain. and i think boris will be selling constantly brexit to the british people, and selling britain to the world. and in an age when the media is incredibly powerful, someone media is incredibly powerful, someone who really does understand the media, and boris does, think that's a pretty useful skill to have. but i guess you can sell hope now, can't you, because he is yet to get stuck into the detail. that will be the test when he has to engage with these very difficult issues. be the test when he has to engage with these very difficult issueslj with these very difficult issues.” certainly agree with him that optimism and hope is some ink that is an essential quality of leadership. and, certainly, boris can potentially deliver that —— something that is. the question is, can he deliver brexit when it comes to the reality and the details? because wishing it was so and saying that britain is great does not deal with the irish border and it does not deal with whether we are in the customs union and it doesn't deal with anything technical. and the question for me is all of those tory brexiteers who voted down theresa may's withdrawal agreement, do they really, truly believe that that was, as some sad, treasonous, the withdrawal agreement, and that they absolutely will begin unless boris johnson can deliver on may's red lines. what have they been looking for a ladder to climb down and there will be swept up in borisjohnson's rhetoric and kind of turn a blind eye when he comes back with basically the withdrawal agreement with a tony smith of lipstick on it, says it's different, will they let themselves be full —— tiny smear. if he can deliver a brexit with a deal that will be a bit economically messy but not catastrophic, then i think the future that tim has set out could potentially come to pass. it isa out could potentially come to pass. it is a question of are they rational or are they, in fact, going to dig their heels in? the front page of the daily mirror, the same sort of thing, a bit less kind... i am quite sceptical about borisjohnson but this is not make me sceptical about boris johnson. borisjohnson but this is not make me sceptical about borisjohnson. i do not have a problem with him being fun. ido do not have a problem with him being fun. i do not care whether he is a statesman... he was not prime minister when he was doing this...” do not care, it does not bother me at all. if you can bring joy and fun to the prime ministership it is good. they should be talking about the fact that when he loses track of details it can cost people very dearly, his clumsy was because he had not read briefings properly, landed radcliffe, for example... that is rubbish. she is injail because... exactly... let's not blame boris... but he sabotaged it with his clumsy, clumsy language. the resignations have confirmed that. we should not be doing that. they are bad guys, the iranians. we have sustained many minutes without talking about brexit at the time has come. imf wants over no—deal brexit. i think no—deal brexit will be a difficult and bumpy thing if it is to happen stop i think it is like playing a game of russian roulette. four times out of six we may be ok, it is the unexpected event cannot plan for and that is what should frighten people about a no—deal brexit. i don't think any sensible prime minister would choose it over a negotiated deal and that is the right way to warn about no—deal brexit. the imf and other forecasting organisations have such a poor track record, this will not really swing public opinion in any way. what i think the new government and prime minister has to do is in the chancellor that and the restock ofa the chancellor that and the restock of a special budget dash is put out a set of proposal. should there be no deal, there would be measures to reassure business and the country that we are as prepared as we possibly can be in that eventuality and theresa may and philip hammond never really did that but if europe and the business world sees a chancellor with array of measure for this eventuality, it starts change the scenario. i really do think that is wishful thinking. the european governments are substantially more prepared for no deal than we. when people like tim or much more importantly boris johnson says we need to prepare for no deal because it isa need to prepare for no deal because it is a useful bargaining chip, you are showing your hand, look, i am just bluffing, and it does not persuade those european governments that they ought to fold. fundamentally, what so many british commentators struggled to understand is that the european union doesn't value the integrity of its rules —based value the integrity of its rules — based system value the integrity of its rules —based system and what you might call it protectionist barriers more thanit call it protectionist barriers more than it values economic... kind of protection. and that means that the european union will not tolerate britain asking for it to change its rules even if that comes with an economic cost. i think the brexiteers should understand that because they are the ones arguing that sovereignty, our rules are more important than economics. i really worry that when you hear boris johnson talking about no deal and about other deals we would have, about other deals we would have, about aeroplanes and food and the way of making mars bars, he does not understand that the moment we left with no deal, we will turn up to brussels and artifice ideals and will say can we have our $39 billion. -- million. if the opinion looked at theresa may ——if the european union saw theresa may as a cautious person, they might look over the english channel now and they think hejust over the english channel now and they think he just might and perhaps that will help him in the negotiations. it is an uphill struggle but just having negotiations. it is an uphill struggle butjust having a new prime minister and having someone that european union cannot be sure what it might do might be an interesting tactic. a bumpy road ahead. thank you both very much indeed. that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you, seven days a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, tim and polly. goodbye. good evening. i'm lizzie greenwood—hughes. here with your latest sports news. the world aquatics championships in south korea continue today and britain's golden boy, adam peaty, looked comfortable in his 50 metres breastroke semi—final, after storming to gold in the 100 metres yesterday, following another world record in the build up. peaty was in fine form racing over a single length, winning his semi in 26.11 seconds, just shy of his world record time. now it is about processing. it has been an emotional few days of racing andi been an emotional few days of racing and i try not to think about it too much. i love racing and winning and tomorrow is all about winning and if i get tomorrow is all about winning and if igeta tomorrow is all about winning and if i get a world record, that is a bonus. there was also a bronze medal for britain's duncan scott in the 200 metres freestyle. he originally finished injoint fourth place but was upgraded after the winner was disqualified. it meant gold went to china's sun yang, who prompted contraversy in the medal ceremony, when scott refused to share the podium with him in protest over yang's previous ban for doping and his appeal on a decision to clear him of a further doping offence. what matt did, everyone in swimming got behind him so i think i back him. respect our sport. and i respect him. it was a big night in europe for the new saints in the second round of qualifying for the champions league. but the welsh premier league champions couldn't cause an upset in the first leg against the danish champions fc copenhagen. they were beaten 2—0 at home in oswestry. pieros sotiriou giving the danish side the lead, turning in karlo bartolec‘s low cross into the near post. and he was involved in their second goal after being brought down by keston davies in the box. robert skov converted the spot kick. the second leg is next wednesday in denmark with new saints even greater underdogs, but whatever the result, the run will earn the welsh side nearly a million pounds in prize money. there was a scare for geraint thomas on stage 16 of the tour de france. the defending champion crashed but recovered well on the 177km route starting and ending in nimes. you can see the the welshman coming off the bike here on a corner but it didn't set him back too much. thomas quickly caught up with the peleton and finshed in the main group which keeps him 2nd overall — 1 minute and 35 seconds behind the race leader, frenchman, julian alliphillipe. australia's caleb ewan took the stage in a sprint finish. england's record breaking fast bowlerjames anderson will miss their historic test match against ireland tomorrow. he injured a calf playing for lancashire earlier this month but he is expected to be fit for the ashes which start injust over a week's time at edgbaston. captainjoe root says a convincing victory against the irish will put them in a good position for a busy summer. the message to the squad is to play with huge amount of pride and passion and intensity. the intensity of this week will set a tone for the rest of the summer and as long as we apply ourselves in the right manner and go into this game exactly like that then we will give a good account of ourselves. meanwhile in tonight's t20 blast action, a century from captain dawid malan helped middlesex beat surrey by 37 runs at the oval. surrey were set 210 to win but lost too many early wickets to ever really challenge. yorkshire also beat leicestershire by 5a runs in the north group. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport will it be a good night? i think it will be pretty uncomfortable for many of us. the heat has been building to record records. in the channel islands we hit 36 degrees. that is the newjuly record. we also did see 35.7. that 36 equals the all—time record. heat and humidity with pretty big thunderstorms anticipated. pretty uncomfortable. temperatures in the mid—to high teens. wednesday morning, first thing, the showers pretty plentiful across the northern half of the uk. if you stray across the end east anglia. generally the southern half of the uk will see a lot of sunshine. scotland taking a while to brighten up. showers losing their intensity through the morning. a bit more of a south—westerly breeze on wednesday. some spots a couple of degrees down on today but hotspots across the south—east of england and east anglia, 33 possible. thursday is likely to be the record—breaking day. what this will do is a southerly air stream. a record—breaking day across the netherlands and luxembourg as well. we are tapping into that really hot air. the map does not look too exciting. a lot of sunshine to come and that will drive the head. au thunderstorms towards a waste is a front tries to close in. ahead of it, in the east, we're talking about of 37 degrees and that will topple thejuly of 37 degrees and that will topple the july record of 37 degrees and that will topple thejuly record that currently stands at 36.7. 20 percent— 30% chance to topple the all—time high temperature record for the uk on thursday. however, if the heat is not for you, hang in there. the friday, a fresher day. still pretty warm in london stopped not too much rain in association with that front but it will have a big impact on the way things feel. considerably cooler for the weekend. the chance of some heavy rain. stay tuned, a lot going on in the next few days. hello and welcome to newsday on the bbc. i'm ben bland in london. the headlines: borisjohnson is elected leader as the conservative and unionist party. borisjohnson wins the race to be conservative leader — and britain's next prime minister. he takes office today, with a three—point plan. deliver brexit, unite the country, and defeat jeremy corbyn. and that's what we're going to do. world leaders offer their congratulations. among the first — president trump, who suggests mrjohnson is a british version of himself. i'm rico hizon in singapore. also in the programme: the firstjoint air patrol by russia and china sees south korean

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