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BBCNEWS BBC News July 14, 2024

Recorded temperature, a staggering 45. 9 degrees. The lionesses find out tonight who theyll meet in the world cup semi finals as holders usa kick off against hosts france. The coroner at the London Bridge attack inquests says he isnt persuaded mi5 and the police missed opportunities to prevent what happened. In ruling that the eight victims were unlawfully killed, the chief coroner for england and wales, mark lucraft, said the work of the Security Services was generally thorough and rigorous. He did however criticise the family of one of the attackers, for not reporting his extremist behaviour, and said their testimony was un our Home Affairs Correspondent Daniel Sandford has more. After eight weeks of compelling, harrowing and often tearful evidence the inquest concluded this evening. They have been particularly harrowing for the bereaved relatives, and some of the french families have come, almost every day. And the coroner ruled that all eight people had been unlawfully killed, but also said there had been failures by both the authorities responsible for the bridge and one killers family. It was a happy summer night on London Bridge that turned to horror in an instant. Christine and her fiance were enjoying a romantic getaway from paris when a van did a u turn and drove deliberately and at speed onto the wide and unprotected pavement. Christine is still recovering from serious injuries but xavier did not survive. Chrissy archibald was also killed. The chief coroner noted that no changes had been made to the bridge after the westminster attack. The bereaved relatives are also bewildered by the fact that one of the killers had been identified by mi5 two years earlier as someone who might attack the uk. He was still being actively investigated when he managed to kill the eight victims. His own brother in law had warned Counter Terrorism police of his extremism but was never called back. When the men were plotting the attack in the last few days no one was watching. The coroner held back from criticising the Security Services but the bereaved families remain disappointed. How can they miss him . Mi5 did not stop that guy despite the signs that he was ready for the worst. But the coroner criticised the attackers family seeing multiple warning signs. After ploughing through pedestrians on the bridge, the van crashed and the killers got out, each carrying a weapon for the next stage of their attack. With 12 inch knife strapped to their wrists, moving swiftly and as a pack, the name cornered and attacked their victims, two at the top of the stairs and two further down the stairs and a fifth at the end of the courtyard near the entrance to the borough bistro. In less than a minute they had fatally injured five of their victims and the small area. On a night of heroes, James Mcmullen died trying to help sara zelenak. Today outside court one of the parents had the nerve another nurse was stabbed but survived. Passers by and Police Officers desperately tried to keep Sebastien Belanger alive while the attackers moved on. An off duty pc took them on, earning himself the george medal. They thrusted towards me. Obviously this happened within seconds. Getting stabbed in the back. I dropped to the floor. Getting stabbed in the back, i dropped to the floor. He stands above me and he stabs me three times in the head. The last person and then killed was ignacio echeverria. Just inside the restaurant was a Junior Doctor who told me a man at the door was trying to stop him leaving for his own safety. I said you have to let me out. I am a doctor. I cannot watch them bleed to death. We were having this argument. I was getting frustrated. I understood him but i had to get out and i said he could lock the door afterwards. He was able to save someone who had been stabbed 18 times. Killers rampaged through Borough Market for another seven minutes, still attacking people but failing to kill any more. They were in the process of stabbing someone else when armed officers arrived and shot them dead. Although the coroner didnt criticise mi5, the Security Service and counterterrorism policing service have made changes in how they work. This is a question of resources. If khuram butt had been the only suspect he would have been watched intently, but he was one at 3000 at the time not regarded as the highest priority. A senior official giving evidence at the old bailey said in a democratic society, it was a question as to how big the Security Service should get, and mi5 was bigger than it had ever been. We can speak to colonel richard kemp, whos commanded british troops in afghanistan, iraq, the balkans and Northern Ireland, and whos also acted as an adviser to the government on terrorism. Good to speak to you again, let me ask you very straightforward about the coronary findings can make you think you got it right . the coronary findings can make you think you got it right . I would say so, yes and particularly to the things that strike me are first of all, he says he didnt find that mi five and the police messed opportunities, they could have perhaps seized in order to prevent this from happening i think hes right, i worked with them before, and the countertenor isnt that Counterterrorism Police on many occasions on this kind of assault and to be honest, they are very diligent and well resourced into the bestjob diligent and well resourced into the best job they diligent and well resourced into the bestjob they can do. I think the problem is they have such a huge problem is they have such a huge problem to deal with, so many suspects, 23,000 suspects jihadist in the country which is several thousand are of real concern, and the second thing i think that he found that some family members who had an idea of what was happening did absolutely nothing to either prevented or warned police about what their relations were about to do. There working to kind of worrying issues i suppose raised, one was the brother not saying that he had because he was worried about his brother the and he contacted the authorities but no one called them back, so presumably thats a straightforward follow up thing that should happen, but an hour ago i was talking to anthony, who you know and he was saying he felt it was relu cta nce he was saying he felt it was reluctance because he broadly shared that the view you expressed in the corner as well, they couldnt have prevented that people the response by those who carried it out but nonetheless, he did say there are two lists, does a 12,000 strong with that extremists who are of concern but not not to be violent therefore not immediate concern, but then he said asa not immediate concern, but then he said as a second list and thats a National Security threat one and the attacker was on that, so in a sense that there was concern about them, i guess it practical question without putting the blame is how do we know that someone like that is followed up that someone like that is followed up and why was he not followed up anyway . I think the fact is there are thousands of people on that last list of great concern, and its absolutely not possible for the Security Services and police to monitor that large number, to the extent they need monitoring, and they can work on these people and maybe identify what they are thinking and how they are operating in acting, and then conclude that in this case, they are not the immediate threat, resources are stretched and we need to focus more on somebody else, and they got that wrong, and its not something that they could maybe knock at ron, its something that is a question attachment, i think what we need to do this country is to reassess our political priorities about how we help the Security Services, and yes if quincy can give them more and more resources, but as your correspondence that come the democratic state, you know, how big the secret service get and second, we can reduce the number of suspects they need to deal with by deporting those who are coming by preventing any more coming into the country as we are allowing Islamic State terrace in some case to come then, and even going as far as a child the judicial process to keep up the streets, people of great concern. Doing the three things are at least one or two of them is about the only way we can really contain this problem. Can i pick you up on that last example hed to escape, you said its not the only one but it interesting for you to raise, we tried that without trial before a Northern Ireland in the early 70s, wasnt the evidence that it didnt prevent violence and simply acted as a recruiting agent to allow those who are attacking the british and the British State and those who supported the ira to say i told you so, they do not treat us like ordinary citizens, they treat us like second as is second class evidence and also need to change this and. Yes thats in 1934 this is 2019, there are obvious mistakes made which would be made now, and that includes very poor intelligence about who should have been locked up, so that people in turn should have been and continues that there was an obvious benefit to doing that, second, its very much one sided that they were detaining one sided that they were detaining one side of the problem and on the other. Which obviously, people saw that as being deeply unfair, there are other problems as well. They dont underestimate all, the seriousness in suggesting internment without trial in a liberal democracy such as ours, its a very, very difficult step to take and i think we do look at that, and we may have to look at it depending on how the situation evolves if we do look at it we should be looking as part of thejudicial process. Involving secret court, but not involving just Security Forces and get him behind bars but involving jerrys and lobsters to authorise it. Richard, thank you very much for being with us. A stony faced theresa may met Vladimir Putin today, and told him that russia must stop what she called the irresponsible and destabilising activity, that threatens the uk and its allies. The Prime Minister said she had irrefutable evidence, that moscow was behind the deadly nerve agent attack in salisbury last year. The two leaders met at the g20 meeting of leading industrialised nations, in osaka injapan, from where our diplomatic correspondent, James Robbins reports. The Prime Minister radiated coldness, barely looking at president putin to express maximum disapproval for the cameras. She did not give the appearance of someone ready to forgive and forget murder in last years poisonings. This will surprise some people, and attempt to explore ways to do limited business again. Theresa may had told the bbc she was determined to confront the president. Charges have been made against two individuals and i want to see them brought to justice. Russia needs to recognise its acts and stop acting in this way and stop its other destabilising activities around the world. Just before coming to japan, Vladimir Putin used a long interview with the Financial Times to dismiss the poisonings as a matter between spies and to attack western attachment to liberal values. He held instead the rise of nationalism and populism. Both men competing to succeed theresa may as Prime Minister denounced the russian leaders comments. Jeremy hunt said it was easy to be disparaging about democracy both men competing to succeed theresa may as Prime Minister denounced the russian leaders comments. Jeremy hunt said it was easy to be disparaging about democracy when you have never had to bother with it at home. Boris johnson called Vladimir Putins claimed liberalism was obsolete in the west totally wrong. Before the salisbury poisoning mrjohnson said he had tried to build a new partnership with russia. It just isnt there. Back in japan enter two leaders who seem easy and each others company, neither with much time for liberalism. President putin denies that russia interfered to help donald trump when the white house in 2016 and when a Reporter Asks mr trump if he will tell the russian leader not to meddle in the next election, he says. And that the saudi prince looked worried about pressures at the un for him to face the trial for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi . No sign. Ahead of the crucial encounter tomorrow with donald trump over escalating trade work. The chinese leader was accusing the president of bullying tactics. Translation developed countries are frequently to xmas measures, triggering trade friction and a technology blockade and destroying the global order. This also impact on the common interests of our countries and overshadows peace and stability worldwide. Its been about as bad a summit today as it could be. Amid clear signs that International Mechanisms meant to help resolve fundamental divides are now looking seriously weakened in the face of so much parading of rival power. James robbins, bbc news, osaka. There was discussion about the handshake and study based on the expression, lets talk to an expert and body language judy, thank expression, lets talk to an expert and body languagejudy, thank you for coming in, you have been looking at these pictures and some detail, first of all lets talk about theresa may and Vladimir Putin today, what did you deduce from the lady greeted each other and the way they interacted. And heir of the permafrost, the summits are all about hierarchy and powerjostling status, but usually the leaders had an election coming up so that trying to boost themselves power by association are lowering the leader but she had nothing to lose today so shes not looking for the boats and just waiting for the removal date to determine apps that we have a very stoned reaction from her, she pushed the blood diplomacy to one side, they know that these shots will be heard around the world and people will see how she wants to display that she is feeling about putting in his policies and actions, so we had no eye contact in the eye and the handshake he was looking to her and smiling and she looked to one side and ignored him to make them feel smaller and she grabbed his hand and headed closer to her meeting he was stretched out slightly, and then she kind of tossed her head at the end of the lake boxy yelling out that that were finished i got to the niceties and looking very strong i think because of that. Niceties and looking very strong i think because of thatlj niceties and looking very strong i think because of that. I wonder as well, it is a comparison with other interactions we have seen, what struck you . I love to compare it to put in and trapped because this is hilarious, donald trump cracked up in his favourite handshake switches that shake and yanked. I hadnt seen them do this before to put in, he turns back she tends to take on the mandan policy, so its all alpha posturing with him. So what we got what it looks very friendly to nitrite with you . So he takes her hand like that, and absolutely a put you off balance once when many are smiling and polite next minute you lost her balance of physically, hes registering himself a superior i had nothing to do that for a while though. The good thing for him though. The good thing for him though it looks friendly but it would been an active aggression really very silverback mode from. That lovely comparison. The interesting thing about these is the pictures go around the well, quite often they are trying to do one thing the say another, so they are you trying to look warm but you know the moment the cameras are gone its difficult. Here with her she wasnt even trying to disguise anything and would donald trump as he said he has a different message to say which is on this i am back in charge after all the allegations about racha russia, but what about other leaders and tract, not because putting is often one who can be quite a dominant figure. Hes very smart with his body language, and it is very mast usually you cant tell what hes thinking, he was sitting with trump today, and trump was doing his famous knee display with that power steeple going on there, but putting was looking a lot more relaxed with his hand dangling in front, but there was, he was nearly touching his watch as though i look nice and will be nice but im getting down to business so he doesnt really get give too much away and when they had their first meeting at another member, he looked quite cold and awkward but the minute the cameras are off but not off, he shot across to trump and whispering bitterness but the same language but he was whispering in his ear, showing that last signal friendship as he probably thought it would cause problems for him. When i a lwa ys would cause problems for him. When i always remember with put in which i think you do to you is a price on the met Angela Merkel, when he famously put it like he knew she had a real pathological fear of dogs, and so he allowed his rather large dog to suddenly wander into the room and an attempt to kind of really throw her off her stride not so much a body language but the body you know, you could see it in reaction. Absolutely its the same thing, and with tony blair, the one to get the last padding, he met tony blair and tony blair was a bit like eight of the film the matrix, putting was trying to pet him that he was like moving his body away, and right at the end, the document and he patted the end, the document and he patted the dog instead, its like he got rid of it. But youre right, you cannot tell, even if someone is looking very strong and find a camera, it might mean theyre not going to have a strong meeting or a strong stance inside. Donald trump i suppose has a big advantage and that hes a Real

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