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out we could see 20—30 millimetres in the high ground of wales and scotla nd in the high ground of wales and scotland could end up with a0 millimetres of rain. tuesday, low pressure still close to the north—west of scotland and parts of northern ireland, still seeing a fairamount of rain. northern ireland, still seeing a fair amount of rain. later in the day this is with embedded thunderstorms which could cause an issue. 0therwise between those two extremes it is a decent sort of day with some sunshine but already the met office this yellow warning. some of those areas badly affected by flooding in lincolnshire. more rain into wednesday and as that clears away it may be that as the day comes along we have more thunderstorms and somewhere in that warning area 30—a0 millimetres but some could get 50. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines. hong kong's leader apologises as hundreds of thousands stage another protest against plans for an extradition law, which has now been suspended. i confess that we have not been as effective as we would like to communicate with the people to justify this very good objective that is worth doing. tory leadership contender, dominic raab, says his party will be "toast" if britain isn't out of the eu by the end of october and he accuses parliament of trying to steal brexit from the voters. hundreds of people in lincolnshire still can't go back to their homes because of flooding described by the environment agency as "unprecedented". around a8 million people may be affected by a huge electrical power failure in argentina and uruguay. now the best of the week's interviews and reports with the bbc‘s victoria derbyshire show. hello, and welcome to our programme. over the next half an hour we will bring you some exclusive and originaljournalism that we have broadcast over the last week. on monday we told you how thousands of people in england are using their life savings to pay for care that should be funded by the nhs. campaigners claim it is a deliberate strategy to cut spending on the care even though it is a legal right for thousands of vulnerable patients. when 83—year—old joyce bryant fell ill two years ago with viral encephalitis it left her with a substantial brain injury and unable to care for herself. it became the tipping point for her health. she is now bedridden and weighs around seven stone. her behaviour was just manic. she was banging on windows, she was hitting out at my dad, pulling plugs out of the sockets in the hospital ward and staff were having to take it off of her. she put herself on the floor and was hitting the mattress, it was just totally un—normal behaviour and that is when we started with the chc process. what is chc or continuing health care? clinical commissioning groups have a duty to offer personal health budgets to those eligible. it is a government scheme where the nhs is responsible for funding the nursing cost of people with complex medical conditions. those who apply are judged according to national criteria guidelines. one of which is unpredictable health care needs. every year around 160,000 applications are made costing the nhs around £3 billion. nurses from clinical commissioning groups assess patients like joyce, but she was turned down for continuing health care funding by west hampshire ccg last year. she destroyed her glasses. let me just show you her nightie. how much more evidence do you need on her own stability than her nightie? she has ripped that nightie. it is all documented yet they came back and said her behaviour was not unpredictable, it could be anticipated. but lynn says despite providing documents and showing her mum's aggressive behaviour... her local clinical commissioning group found that her needs did not meet their criteria for fully funded nhs care. have you had tea yet? to come back and say her behaviour was not unpredictable, i can't understand their, i can't understand their rationale to the situation but it's a... unfortunately it is what is happening. the bottom line is it is happening. and it shouldn't be happening. joyce's health is deteriorating. her gp has now placed her on an end—of—life palliative care register. her husband, pete, who is in the early stages of dementia has had to spend most of their savings on her 2a/7 care needs, which he says it should be provided by the nhs. she isjust like a cabbage now. if you can call it that. we always, we were always together, weren't we? always together, always going out, go out together. but now, no chance at all. how are you feeling today? still a bit tired. might get out and have a chat and a smile with somebody else. the family say their savings to continue caring forjoyce are running out. they are eligible for care home funding but they say that is not an option. i need some help. yes. all right, dad. it is all right. mum and dad have always wanted to stay in their own home. haven't you? you always wanted to stay in your own home together. they have been married 57 years. if i genuinely thought that a care home was the right place, i wouldn't think twice, but they have never wanted to go into a care home. to be honest it would be disastrous for mum because she wouldn't get the care that she is getting here when she is having the days where she won't eat, she won't drink and if i mention to dad about a home, he just says, "i will kill myself if i go into a home." forjoyce to remain in her own home, she will need continuing health care funding. we contacted the family's clinical commissioning group who told us... figures we have seen from the parliamentary and health service ombudsman, who oversee complaints into health care, show nearly 200 cases were investigated in the last year which is why some campaigners have accused local clinical commissioning groups of deliberately withholding funding in order to avoid making payments. there are thousands of people who have been forced to sell their houses to pay for their care, in circumstances when they perhaps ought not had to do so. the problem is that a lot of people don't know of the existence of this funding and even those who do know about it have difficulty navigating the complexities of the system. it is a national scandal that people are not being signposted to this funding. here in wiltshire, the percentage of people like this family getting access to continuing health care funding is amongst the lowest in the country. leaving many with significant health care needs are being denied free care. this is the dark side of the nhs. this is the hidden side, the dementia side, alzheimer's side. john has cerebral palsy which means he cannot use his arms or legs. his funding was withdrawn in 2009 because he no longer met the criteria for continuing health care despite his condition remaining the same. fighting forjohn has nearly broken me. watching somebody disappear when you know that for a simple amount of money it can be stopped. it is depressing, it is demoralising, it encompasses every conversation that i have with my lovely husband who sometimes just turns off because he has heard what i have said so many times. you would like to give up sometimes but i can't. because i won't. i won't give up. it is not what we do. a decade later and their battle for continuing health care funding has paid off. in the last week, wilshire clinical commissioning group has concluded thatjohn now qualifies for fully funded care. his parents say they now intend to claim £300,000 back from the nhs having spent their own money on his care. i am relieved, i am relieved because now the three of us can have a normal life again. a family life. very happy. for some though it hasn't been a happy ending. a recent report by the public accounts committee found that some people have died while awaiting a decision on their continuing health care applications. nhs clinical commissioner is the body which must operate within the confines of the law and that they are working hard to improve the process to make it fairer for those that need it. there are some people who are suggesting the nhs is unlawfully holding funding back to those who are lawfully entitled to it. you are right that it is a requirement that is provided to people who meet the criteria and when you know that some assessments in some areas are taking over 100 days, three months in waiting, living through something without the support they need, that is just not acceptable and these differences in waiting time couldn't be explained so there is a lot wrong with the system and there needs to be real political will to make sure those eligible are getting the money they need because it is often a short window that the people need the money and if they don't get it quickly, they may never get it at all. philip, a retired rearadmiral, says his mum was desperate for health care funding but by the time it was approved by their local clinical commissioning group, it was too late. he successfully claimed £200,000 back from the nhs for the care his family had already paid for. when i eventually won the case on behalf of my father, i mean, sadly, my mother died just at the end of that process, at the independent review panel eventually i recovered a total of £200,000. at a national level, in my view this is probably the biggest financial scandal in the history of the nhs, financially talking. and over the last five to ten years there will be thousands, possibly tens of thousands of people that will have been denied this funding. we asked nhs england for an interview to discuss the problems people are having with continuing health care. but instead they sent us a statement. you are dealing with a very challenging situation involving your mum and you are also having to deal with a system that is incredibly difficult and very complex to understand. how are you able to get through all of this? it shouldn't be like that. mum and dad are of the generation where if they couldn't afford it, they didn't have it. they saved hard to better themselves, they saved hard for their retirement and they have stood on their own two feet all their lives and now they need their help and it is just not there. this week we revealed that police have apologised to six victims of the convicted football coach bob higgins, for the way their cases were handled back in the ‘90s. on wednesday, higgins was given 2a years in jail for indecently assaulting two dozen boys but six other men were told their allegations couldn't be tried in court this time because they had been heard over 15 years ago. the force now says it is genuinely sorry that victims did not get the justice they deserved. 0ur reporterjim reid spoke to one of those victims. have you ever engaged in any behaviour that could be construed in any way shape or form as being conducted for your sexual gratification? in 15 hours of police interviews, he didn't say a word. bob higgins spent a long career coaching at southampton and peterborough. his trial heard he used to that position to abuse dozens of boys over three decades. he was sentenced yesterday and will now start a 2a yearjail term for those crimes. football was our lives. it was our dream, all that mattered to us. bob higgins used our desire and determination as a tool to exploit our vulnerability. these victims waived their right to anonymity to speak outside court. but while there was finally justice for some, others will miss out. this ex—premiership footballer was abused as a teenager in the 19805. i was an innocent young child. to be let down by the system was devastating. and all i felt was anger. in 1989 he went to the police to report bob higgins. five other young players made similar claims around that time. i was only there about an hour. no one ever got back to me to go through my statement or ask whether it could be used in court. he left the police station and buried that abuse for the next 25 years. we will talk now to billy seymour, a former southampton youth player... in 2016, this programme broadcast an interview with another of bob higgins‘s victims. i was tired, just sort of lay your head in my lap. i watched that and had a quiet spell in my house. went upstairs and saw my son. at that point, i knew that once again i was willing to go through all the hurt, stress, anger, to come forward and speak out again and hopefully this time round, something could be done. in 2016, the player went to the police for a second time and was interviewed for seven hours. he was later told he would be treated as a victim in a new case against the coach. then as part of the investigation, police searched bob higgins‘s home. in his attic they found paperwork with the player's name on it. back in 1991, bob higgins was arrested and went to court on child abuse charges. back then he was acquitted of one offence, the prosecution entered no evidence on the other five. i never spent a day in court... the legal principle of double jeopardy stops anyone going on trial twice for the same crime. the player says he was never told he was involved in a court case but because his name was on old court documents, police said he had to be dropped the assistant chief constable of hampshire police told this programme he was genuinely sorry that some victims did not get the justice they deserved in this case. he said... in 2003 the government did relax the double jeopardy rule, allowing a retrial in cases where strong new evidence emerges. but the change only applies to 30 of the most serious crimes like attempted murder and rape. because bob higgins was charged with indecent assault, double jeopardy still applies. 30 years after some of his crimes then, the coach will now start a long prison sentence, but some believe the full impact of his actions may never be recognised or properly accounted for. if you have been affected by any of the issues in that report, contact the bbc action line: this week a dwp minister was brought before mps to respond to testimonies from women who say they have been forced to sell themselves for sex due to problems with universal credit. one woman spoke exclusively to us. she says she had to sell sex to three different men after racking up nearly £5,000 in debt while in receipt of universal credit. her words are spoken for her and you might find some of this upsetting. it started when i broke up with my boyfriend. i moved into a shared house and after a few months, one of my housemates sexually assaulted me. that night i left with nothing more than a backpack. i had nowhere safe to live. but i sofa surfed for weeks and used my overdraft to pay for a youth hostel. after six weeks, i was placed in a women's hostel and after another six weeks, i got my first universal credit payments ofjust over £200 a month. it went up a little but the housing element of the credit was because i am under 35. my universal credit payments didn't even cover half of the cost of the hostel. after months of no income, i was nearly £5,000 in debt and facing eviction from the hostel. i was in no fit state to work. for a while i tried but i didn't have any proper clothes. or even enough money to buy shampoo. i couldn't go to work in that state. the sexual assault had triggered severe ptsd and made my underlying mental health condition worse. i was regularly self harming. i was disorientated and stressed because of the trauma. i made multiple suicide attempts. i started selling all my possessions. textbooks, my laptop, my grandmother's jewelry, but it still wasn't enough. eventually i visited an online forum and responded to ads posted by men using coded terms such as, older men seeking relationship with young woman for mutual gain. it was obvious what that meant. i met up with one man regularly. he paid me to go with him to sex parties. men had to bring a woman to get into these parties so i was his entrance fee. when i was there, i was expected to have sex with him and other men. he only paid me £60 a night. myjob was to do whatever the men wanted. sometimes that was sex, sometimes it was to let them hit me or let them spit in my face while they did other sexual things to me. it was demeaning. 0ften physically painful and terrifying. as well as sex parties, i occasionally visited individual men's houses. they paid me a bit more but the experience was much more terrifying. i felt incredibly vulnerable. i was at their houses. i knew they could do whatever they like to me and no one would ever know. finally, eight months after all this began, universal credit agreed to pay my full rent and even backdated it. it was enough to live on and enough to pay my rent so i immediately stop selling my body for sex. i moved into a council flat a couple of months later and now i was living in a stable environment. i was able to get more intensive treatment to recover from my mental health condition. my experience with universal credit was terrible. the system was full of errors, delays, poor communication and benefit caps which made it impossible for me to have enough money to live safely let alone in any way comfortable. while my experience was traumatic, i feel thankful it wasn't worse. many women become stuck in the cycle of needing to continue to sell sex to keep a roof over their heads because the cost of living has become so high and benefits so frequently fail to cover it. 0ur action line address is: that is it for this week. if you want to get in touch, do e—mail. we are back live on monday at ten o'clock. thank you for watching. let's look at the next few days across the british isles. we continue with the theme of a mixed bag. not all doom and gloom but sunday's satellite imagery show low pressure still to the west of the british isles and cloud moving into the south—west. some showers with perhaps longer spells of rain. ahead of that, a mixture of sunny spells and showers. persistent rain for the north west of scotland, and beginning to show its hand across the south—western quarter. in the evening and overnight, persistent rain moves up the west of england through wales into the heart of scotland and through northern ireland and it will leave a portion of the weather front to keep the rain going into parts of wales and the north west of england. and we still have persistent rain across parts of west and northern ireland and the northern half of scotland. not much changes into monday. some isobars as well so the wind will be a noticeable feature but we could see gusts of a0—a5 mph. persistent rain across central and western parts of scotland and northern ireland. the weather front weakens during the day. before it fizzles out we could see 20—30 millimetres in the high ground of wales and scotland could end up with a0 millimetres of rain. tuesday, low pressure still close to the north—west of scotland and parts of northern ireland, still seeing a fair amount of rain. later in the day this is with embedded thunderstorms which could cause an issue. 0therwise between those two extremes it is a decent sort of day with some sunshine but already the met office this yellow warning. some of those areas badly affected by flooding in lincolnshire. more rain into wednesday and as that clears away it may be that as the day comes along we have more thunderstorms and somewhere in that warning area 30—a0 millimetres but some could get 50. this is bbc news. the headlines at four... an apology from hong kong's leader as hundreds of thousands stage another protest against plans for an extradition law, which has now been suspended. i confess we have not been as effective as we would like, to communicate with the people, to justify this very good objective that is worth doing. tory leadership contender dominic raab says his party will be "toast" if britain isn't out of the eu by the end of october and accuses parliament of trying to ‘steal‘ brexit from the voters. the damage it is doing to businesses, many of whom come to me and say we just want to know what you are doing. but also this corrosion of public trust, and the tory part will be toast unless we're out by the end of october.

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