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Electing new members to the European Parliament just days after the Prime Minister announced she was resigning because shed failed to deliver brexit as promised. Idoso i do so with no ill will but with enormous and enduring gratitude, to have had the opportunity to serve the country i love. Tonights results arentjust a verdict on theresa mays leadership. Theyll also have an impact on the choice of new conservative leader and the brexit approach he or she will adopt. But what about labour . Well, its happy birthday toJeremy Corbyn, whos 70 today, but lets see what the voters say about his approach to brexit and the questions about his attitude to another referendum. In scotland, Nicola Sturgeon will be hoping for a strong showing for the snp as she considers calling for a second vote on independence. And in the south east of england, nigel farage will be hoping to top the poll with his new brexit party, repeating the feat of five years ago when he and ukip took the lions share. We are expecting the first results any moment now and i will be at the giant touch screen to analyse them all as they come in. Yes, well be keeping tabs on all the results around the uk and across the European Union, where many countries have been voting today. It already looks like the greens are celebrating in germany. And Marine Le Pens far right National Rally has beaten president macron into second place in france. Here in the studio, well be joined by leading politicians throughout the night. Our Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg is with us as always to shed light on whats going on, as we wait to see if the Political Landscape changes in these European Elections of 2019. We are expecting results within minutes, so lets take a look at the scenes around the country. Poole in the south west where Ann Widdecombe is standing for the brexit party and borisjohnsons sister rachel is trying to win for change uk. It looks like turnout in scotland is up sharply. The word from edinburgh is that it is up around 9 . This is chelmsford in the east of england which may be the first region to declare this evening. Maybe in about 20 minutes. We are in leeds in yorkshire and the humber to see how the vote is breaking in the north of england. A country where labour usually dominates but they might have a fight on their hands tonight. This is an election nobody expected. When people went to vote on wednesday, theresa may was still clinging on as Prime Minister. Within a matter of days we have had the visuals of westminster struggling and scrapping and failing to get brexit done and both of our big main parties, the powerful institutions, the conservatives and the labour party, both expecting to be punished very severely for the kind of meltdown in westminster. And the flip of that of course for the smaller parties, the lib dems particularly, they are feeling very buoyant going into tonight and nigel farage is back with a vengeance. The last time these elections where contested in 2014, his party, then ukip, not the brexit party, came top. That was a big part of setting the conditions for the european referendum happening. If they are top tonight, as many expect, that will have a profound affect on what happens next. If labour and the tories are punished by the voters and the brexit party does well and the lib dems do well, what will that change . First of all it will put more pressure on the tory leadership contest that is absolutely under way, for whoever the victor is to ta ke way, for whoever the victor is to take a hard line on brexit. Conservative mps are nervous and they see their vote around the country being gobbled up by people who are willing to take a harder line up brexit, leaving without a formal deal with the European Union. The flip side of that with the labour party, Jeremy Corbyn has had the posh term, constructive ambiguity, sitting on the fence, trying to keep both sides happy, there will be pressure on him to move towards a more overt backing a referendum. I would like to go to brussels and talk to katya. I mention france in the introduction and Marine Le Pens performance, what is going on there . It is not just in france, there is an air of excitement in the European Parliament. You are seeing politics changing in front of our eyes, as we have been seeing in general elections, notjust in the uk but across the European Union. Traditionally when it comes to European Parliamentary election time, across the whole of the union, there tends to be a very low voter turnout. Not today. People are caring about politics at the moment, they are trying to choose parties or political personalities that reflect their values and priorities. Political personalities that reflect theirvalues and priorities. In france, that is not president macron. He made this photo very personal, calling for a renaissance in the European Union and it turned into what voters thought of him and the changes he has tried to make in the changes he has tried to make in the eu and at home. Actually, it looks like, according to projections, he has lost two Marine Le Pen of the far right. The pattern we are seeing emerging across the eu, like we have seen in all sorts of general elections is a move away from traditional politicians all the parties of the centre left and the centre right. Look at the other eu powerhouse, germany. A slap in the face for the centre right party of Angela Merkel and her centre Left Coalition partners. That could even bring down the current german government. Instead we see european vote rs government. Instead we see european voters looking elsewhere for answers. Some to the far right, the populist right if they want to crack down on immigration and power is returned from brussels. The greens are expected to do very well tonight. It means that this European Parliament will probably be very fragmented, just at a time when vote rs wa nt fragmented, just at a time when voters want change, it will be hard for new laws to be voted in parliament and to get agreement. There could be a Brexit Impact as well. Because if you have big, eu leaders alike in france and germany, so preoccupied with their own National Political vote, they are even less likely to listen to a new uk Prime Minister, who wants to renegotiate the brexit deal, but they say is already closed. Katya, thank you. We will be back with you shortly. Katya with early signals from other parts of the European Union. We are looking for early signals to what extent the conservative and labour parties have been published for what has been going on in westminster. Two, ithink for what has been going on in westminster. Two, i think you are in a position to give us a result . This has come from leeds in the yorkshire and humber region. It shows the brexit party is top with 29 of the vote. They have pushed the labour party into second place on 20 with the lib dems just party into second place on 20 with the lib demsjust behind on 18 and a good result for the greens on 16 . This area was labour five years ago when this election was fought. Conservative before that and then labour before that. If we look at a change in the share of the vote, labour are down by 30 and the conservatives down by 12 as well. Good result for the liberal democrats. If these results are typical, it does mean the liberal democrats are in with a good chance of coming second but it is early days. Laura, that is a very powerful first signal . It is, and that is the kind of thing the labour party will be nervous about. You see the tories dropping back, but you can see an absolutely clear, clear verdict of how the new party, the brexit party that didnt exist not so long ago, has come sweeping in. It is important to remember they have come from what existed from ukip, it is not like this movement did not exist at all, but that is a really clear signal and if very early, but if thatis signal and if very early, but if that is repeated in other places around the country then we are expecting to look at what we believe is likely to be the brexit party shaking the other parties down. First, lets catch up with all the days latest news, with clive. Thanks huw, and good evening. Three more senior conservatives have joined the race to succeed theresa may as conservative party leader and Prime Minister. Among them is michael gove who along with borisjohnson, helped lead the campaign to leave the eu in 2016. Heres our chief political correspondent, vicki young. Stepping forward for another crack at the top job, today, michael gove joined a growing list of leadership hopefuls. Hi, good morning, good morning. I can confirm that i will be putting my name forward to be Prime Minister of this country. I believe that i am ready to unite the conservative and unionist party, ready to deliver brexit and ready to lead this great country. That means mr gove will clash again with Boris Johnson, the man he sat alongside as they campaigned for brexit, but who he fell out with in spectacular style when the tory party were looking for a new leader three years ago. Today, dominic raab made his pitch, insisting he wouldnt delay brexit again, and would leave with or without a deal at the end of october. I will not ask for an extension. Of course, if parliament legislates, then we will be in a difficult position. But as the institute for government has set out today, it is very difficult for parliament now to legislate against no deal, or in favour of a further extension, unless the executive, unless a resolute Prime Minister, is willing to acquiesce in that and i would not. Other candidates agree that no deal must be an option. Of course, in order to succeed in a negotiation, you have to be prepared to leave without a deal. But i have a three point plan for brexit for how we get out of the European Union, im very optimistic about it. All the contenders in this race face the same dilemma to get elected as leader, they have to appeal to conservative Party Members, and many of them have no problem with a no deal brexit. But here in parliament, its a very different story. The chancellor suggested he and others could vote down a conservative Prime Minister who pushed ahead with no deal. A Prime Minister who ignores parliament cannot expect to survive very long. Its just two days since theresa may announced her resignation date. Today, she was at church while candidates vied for herjob, all needing a brexit solution that she failed to find. Vicki young, bbc news, westminster. A former inspector of care homes has told the bbc that he raised serious concerns about the treatment of patients at worlton hall hospital in County Durham four years ago, but his report was never published by the care quality commission. The bbcs Panorama Programme last week revealed evidence of the abuse of patients with learning disabilities at the hospital. Heres our social Affairs Correspondent alison holt. Screaming. The panorama investigation into Whorlton Hall hospital in County Durham included allegations that some staff were bullying and intimidating patients with learning disabilities or autism. Does she not like two men on herobs. . The undercover reporter soon found a disturbing culture. In 2015, Barry Stanley wilkinson led an inspection of Whorlton Hall for the regulator, the care quality commission. He says he raised concerns about the hospital then, but his report wasnt published. What was evident was a very poor culture and that was verily written within that august 2015 report. And i strongly believe that anybody that can understand organisational culture, reading that report, would agree that there was definitely warning bells there. What was your reaction when you saw the panorama . I was extremely upset. Because of this should have been listened to. In a statement, the cqc says that the draft report didnt raise any concerns about abusive practice. And after being reviewed by colleagues, it was clear the team had not collected evidence that was robust enough to substantiate a rating of requires improvement. The regulator says a later inspection rated Whorlton Hall as good overall. It will also be carrying out a review into what it needs to learn from the case. Patients have now been moved, and the private hospitals current owners, who took over this year, say its empty. Alison holt, bbc news. A number of uk and Foreign Companies have apparently expressed an interest in buying british steel, which collapsed into insolvency on wednesday. 5,000 jobs are at risk, most of them at the companys plant in scu nthorpe, along with those of around 20,000 people working in the supply chain. There was an emotional victory for Lewis Hamilton at the monaco grand prix. He managed to hold his nerve in a dramatic race through the streets of monte carlo to increase his lead at the top of the championship, and he dedicated his win to the late niki lauda. Thats it, now back to huw, and coverage of the eu parliamentary elections. Yes, welcome back. Lets have more from the bbc Election Centre here, and results beginning to come in. What i would like to do straightaway is to go to rita to update us on two results. We have got the result in from the east of england, chelmsford, and here, the brexit party have scored a very strong result, 40 of the share of the vote here in chelmsford. So, a clear way out in front for the brexit party. Liberal democrats coming a strong second, on 29 . You will remember a few weeks ago in the local elections, the liberal democrats had a very Strong Performance here against the conservatives. The conservatives matching the green party in third place, on 10 . If we just have a little look at how the share of the vote has changed since the last time these elections were fought five years ago, you will see the liberal democrats have put on 20 , the conservatives have lost 22 of the share of the vote. And interestingly, if anyone wants to make a read across from the ukip vote to the brexit party, actually, the brexit party is outperforming ukips performance from five years ago. One more thing i want to show you which has just come ago. One more thing i want to show you which hasjust come in, huw, and this is such, in the south west region. This was an area which voted strongly to leave the eu in the referendum. It was a 61 leave, and as you can see, the brexit party again, way out in front on 45 of the vote, with the liberal democrats on 20 , and the greens coming in third. Lets just have a on 20 , and the greens coming in third. Letsjust have a quick look at how the share of the vote has changed since five years ago. So, the liberal democrats and the greens putting on at the expense of conservative, labour and ukip. Before we leave that screen i think it is worth explaining, so that viewers know exactly where we are going on this, that these are local results, these results will all be totted up in these local Authority Areas, such more being one of them, and then they will all be aggregated in these regions, so for example, the south west, east of england, wales or scotland, and that is when we will know who the meps are. Exactly, and those local areas are all part of these 12 regions that form the total constituencies, if you like. There are 73 meps and because this is a system not of first past the post but of proportional representation, the meps are allocated according to the share of the partys vote in each region. Well be joined shortly by professorjohn curtice, who is our guru. John has sent us a message already, before i bring my guests m, already, before i bring my guests in, he is giving us these guidelines at this point. He is saying that the brexit party, according to his calculations, are heading forfirst place, with a somewhat higher share of the vote than ukips 27 in 2014. That is his first point. He says it looks as though the lib dems are heading for second place ahead of labour. He says the greens are making what he calls a modest advance. And then he says the conservative vote is falling byjust as much as the polls suggested, leaving the Party Perhaps with little more than 10 or 12 of the vote broke would be a pretty catastrophic collapse. With all of that in mind, were going to talk to our guests. Nice to see you all, thank you forjoining us. Helen, youre smiling bravely, but this is going to be a very difficult night for you . It is going to be a difficult night but we knew these we re difficult night but we knew these were going to be about elections for us, elections that we did not want to have had. We wanted to have left europe by now. So its really frustrating for us and we know it is already frustrating for many people who usually vote conservative but who usually vote conservative but who wanted us to leave, so they may well not have supported us in these elections and that is going to play through into the results. So its going to be a bad night for us. And a message that comes to us from this is yet again, we have to get on and deliver brexit. Really strong message. Did you think you would be heading for Something Like 10 to 12 of the vote, seriously . We knew that our vote was going to be low. This is an election where people are sending a message, sending a message that they want to leave, by voting for the brexit party, or that they wa nted for the brexit party, or that they wanted to remain, voting for the lib dems. It is interesting to see, and it will be interesting to hear what emily says, i thought that the labour vote would hold up more. Most people say the government would be trying to deliver brexit. Although i share the frustration of voters, if only labour had voted with us and voted for brexit rather than blocking it on 29th march, we would have left by now. You could direct that message at lots of your parliamentary colleagues as well, conservative mps who do not help you out either, if that is your perspective. Clearly there are some conservative mps who wanted a harder brexit although many came round and did support the Prime Ministers deal. You cant blame labour for not voting for a deal that they thought was bad for the country. Voting for a deal that they thought was bad for the countrylj voting for a deal that they thought was bad for the country. I think both of them and us fought a general election on a manifesto that we would leave, that we would leave with a deal. And we had a deal. And so. Emma, how bad is bad, whatare you thinking about labours performance and the prospects overnight . I think these are really bad results for labour, i dont think that they are going to be anything other than that. I think were going to get a kicking. And i feel really sorry for all our meps who are going to lose their seats, all the candidates who worked so ha rd all the candidates who worked so hard and all our activists who, frankly, have not done well and it i think that the point is that we went into an election where the most important issue was, what was our view on leaving the European Union . And we were not clear about it, we we re and we were not clear about it, we were not clear on the one single thing that people wanted to hear. And that wasnt their fault. And we send people out to campaign on that and unfortunately, we just werent clear enough. Where would the clarity have been needed most . We should have said quite simply that any deal that comes out of this government should be put to a confirmatory referendum, and that remain should be on the ballot paper and that labour would campaign to remain. That is what we should have done, andl remain. That is what we should have done, and i think that is very unfortunate and i think that we will after these elections need to look very carefully at why it is that we got this result. I think members of the national exact of committee who made the decision on policy will need to be listening carefully to the membership and learning from that. And the collective knowledge of our members and activists who we re of our members and activists who were out on the doorstep listening to people, we will need to feed that look, we will need to look again at our policy in relation to this and make sure that we are clearer, particularly frankly given that we are heading for a general election, at least i certainly hope so, because we certainly cant have a new tory leader who not only will ta ke new tory leader who not only will take an extreme view, i think, on brexit, but also listening to all the candidates at the moment, they are all trying to outbid each other for being as right wing and reactionary as possible when it comes to domestic policy we must have a general election. You are a very Senior Member ofJeremy Corbyns team, youre saying right here even at this early point of the night, you will be trying to persuade your party to change its policy, to have a referendum whatever happens and to campaign to stay in . Yes, that is my view. And i think that in the end, i think we have done everything that we can to try to get a decent policy on leaving the European Union but i think that things have now moved on andi think that things have now moved on and i think that we are now going to find ourselves in a position where we will have a tory leadership who will sit on either a bad deal or no deal at all and i fear it will be no deal, and in those circumstances, we must be equally clear, and it will bea must be equally clear, and it will be a disaster for must be equally clear, and it will be a disasterfor our must be equally clear, and it will be a disaster for our country to have no deal. There should be a referendum and we should campaign to remain. Do you think if labour does not move to that, what are the consequences . Would you see this kind of repetition of losing votes in this way . I dont think you can replicate these results with a general election, i really dont think you can. I think people look ata think you can. I think people look at a whole range of issues when it comes to a general election. Certainly the liberals will do very well tonight, we have lost many votes to the liberals, ive spoken to many people on the doorstep and they have said, emily, i normally vote labour. Labour members, let alone activists, let alone people who normally vote labour, in tears, saying, iam who normally vote labour, in tears, saying, i am going to vote liberal because we have to sharpen out what we are doing on brexit. That message needs to be listened to. I think its very important, we must not be complacent about this but i think that when it comes to a general election, it will be a general election, it will be a general election and there will be a large number of issues and of course, people will be reminded, when we talk about tuition fees, what the liberals stood for, when we talk about austerity, they will remember what the liberal state in a government that brought in austerity. It will be a different matter. But we must be clear about our policy in relation to brexit. Matter. But we must be clear about our policy in relation to brexitlj will bring suzanne in in a second. Some news coming in from the north east, a full result in from the north east of england, where there are three seats are being elected. And this is the result. Brexit party topping the poll. The conservatives in fifth place, on 42,000 votes, ukip behind them on 38,000, and change uk at the bottom, onjust about 38,000, and change uk at the bottom, on just about 25,000 votes. If we look to see whos been affected, then we will see that there are two Brexit Party Meps, and one from labour who has been elected also for the north east of england region. She was in the last parliament so, but we have two new members in the north east of england. That is our first and north east of england. That is our firstand Ukip North East of england. That is our first and ukip losing the seat that they had in the north east. Lets look at the share of the vote. We have the brexit party on 39 . Thats from virtually a standing start. Labour on 19 . The lib dems on 1796. And a quick look at the change in the share of the vote, just to underline the movement. And there you see labour taking a real beating. The brexit Party Obviously were on zero last time because they did not exist. Suzanne, your thoughts . It is going to be an absolutely great night for the brexit party, all the polls said they were going to win and the early indications are that thatis and the early indications are that that is definitely going to happen. Lets not forget, this is a party which didnt exist a few weeks ago, a party whichjust hours before the registration for the names to be on the ballot paper closed, they were still choosing candidates. It is going to be an extraordinary night for nigel farage. And i have to say, for nigel farage. And i have to say, for him to get this party off the ground so quickly is a remarkable achievement. And i think many people, brexiteers, around the country, people who voted leaver or even people who voted remain but are democrats first and remain as a second, are going to be very pleased that they could vote for the brexit party because clearly the other thing that we are seeing tonight is the complete collapse of the ukip vote. Totally unsurprising. I predicted this months and months ago when Gerard Batten started to take ukip ina when Gerard Batten started to take ukip in a really very nasty, far right direction. So thats absolutely no surprise at all. Levers will be very pleased that they were able to vote for the brexit party and quite clearly, this dreadful situation where we have had to have these elections that nobody wanted because both labour and the conservatives have failed to deliver brexit, the chickens are coming home to roost for both of them. Im going to roost for both of them. Im going to talk to your colleague now, in the east midlands, in catherine, and iam going the east midlands, in catherine, and i am going to talk to Annunziata Rees mogg who is there for the brexit party. Can you give us an update on the east midlands, what are your thoughts on what is going on there . We have only had a couple of early results but they are looking extremely encouraging. I would like to congratulate my new collea g u es would like to congratulate my new colleagues in the north east, in their results. I think its a very exciting time, as has been pointed out, we are a brand new party, we started from absolutely nothing. But the disillusionment with all the big parties has helped us give a voice to what people actually called for in the first place, a combination of democracy and delivering brexit. When you look at the campaign and the kind of messages youre getting, can you sum those up for us . Sorry . Could you sum up the message that you are getting from voters on the campaign trail . Everywhere we went, people were coming who had never voted, who had voted for the big parties in the past, who had voted labour at local elections, saying that they didnt have a voice, they felt that democracy had been betrayed, and that finally someone was speaking up for them. And i think that is the crucial point, we had a referendum and there was a clear majority and none of the main parties followed through on delivering what the people called for, thats what were going to do. Just bear with us, were watching images of your own party leader, nigel farage, in his south east region, arriving at the count earlier today. And well see those images now. Last back, just think about the impact of this result nationally, what do you think the impact will be on the Political Landscape . I very much hope it makes our parliamentarians listen to the people that put them there. That the whole problem at the moment is that the people have been against the politicians, the politicians need to listen and they need to reflect on what it is the people want. This is a big message, the people wa nt this is a big message, the people want it sorted, they want out. Your party leader, in kettering right now, just arriving at his own account in southampton, sorry you are in kettering. Just a thought on the way this campaign has been run by nigel farage and what will happen to the Brexit Process now . |j by nigel farage and what will happen to the Brexit Process now . I think we have to have a voice in the negotiations. It has been clear that when it comes to representing us in europe, there is a great up swell in support for the brexit party and the m essa 9 es we support for the brexit party and the messages we are giving. It is only right that as a Successful Party so far, we have only been going six weeks and it is early days, but we are invited to the table to put across the point of view of the people who voted for us. What are your thoughts on cooperating with the conservative party in that process . The conservative party in that process . I dont know who the conservative party are or what they stand for at the moment. It is impossible to have any cooperation with a party that is vision us and leaderless. Thank you forjoining us from kettering and we will have more from kettering and we will have more from that region later on. Lets look at our school board. If we look at where we are at the stage and evening, there is the scorecard in terms of the share of the vote, the brexit party. Very early days. That is where we are. More from the bbc Election Centre in a few minutes, but first lets get the very latest on the elections where you are. Emily, you were going to Say Something about the pattern of results, so what did you want to focus on . Ive seen it in all of the results and its an important thing to look at, which is that if you put into the growth of the lib dems vote and changeuk and put in the green vote and it equates to a drop in the labour vote and i think that point need to be made, and you look at the brexit party on the drop in the conservative and ukip vote, that tends to equate to growth in the brexit party and i think that tends to show what ive been saying, that there has been a clear divide. So we are losing there has been a clear divide. So we a re losing votes there has been a clear divide. So we are losing votes to the green party and the liberals and changeuk and the tories are losing votes to the brexit party and i think its important to make it clear, when you see it through the lens that it shows that. What is the point you are making earlier about the lack of clarity . Is that the answer to the conundrum you are presenting . When we are doing the result analysis and work out what the voters are telling us, we must not kidding ourselves that we might be losing votes to the brexit party. That is the important point as ive been adding up the vote so far, thats where its going and that seems to be where it is going. I think you are reading too much into this, emily, you can look at numbers on and say it is this, that, but the only way the labour will know is talking to people on the doorstep, and the people we speak to say the labour party has abandoned me and its working class roots and it should be an anti European Union organisation and this is what you are losing votes, i reckon, down 17 in the north east and you have onlyjust got one mep in the area. The liberals have gone up in the area. The liberals have gone up11 , in the area. The liberals have gone up 11 , the green party have gone up i dont know how many percent and labour has gone down 17, so where did all the liberal votes come from . Where did the changeuk vote come from . Where did the green vote come from . Where did the green vote come from . I from . Where did the green vote come from . I suspect from . Where did the green vote come from . I suspect it came from labour and thats the point we need to look at and be clear when we are looking again at the results of this and working out what we should do. Again at the results of this and working out what we should dom could well be an analysis that you are being punished as a party for sitting on the fence on brexit and trying to say one thing and the remain vote is another thing and its time to have a clearer position. Im surprised by the conclusion you are reaching on that and the conclusion to me from the results is that people want to see the referendum result honoured and they want to see us leave the European Union, which of course. But where do all the liberal and changeuk and green voters come from . They have targeted people who voted remain and its a very specific sector interest, but some of your vote rs sector interest, but some of your voters voted to leave. I cannot comment on where all of the voters are going but we have some voters who voted to remain and do not want us who voted to remain and do not want us to deliver on the referendum result, but overall, and that includes remain voters and many i heard from said they do think that the country voted to leave. And that is democracy. I fear that they did, i think they saw the European Elections as a kind of proxy for a referendum. And what happened is that people chose to have those who summed up their policy in three words or one word, and that is how it ended up dividing, and if that is right, and you look at the tally and for those who voted brexit and those who didnt vote brexit or remain. If this is a proxy for a referendum why are you campaigning for another . Because i think there should be a proper referendum. You dont agree that the one in 2016 was a proper one . Youjust that the one in 2016 was a proper one . You just wont listen to what the voters are telling you. What we need to be clear about is what it is people will vote for because they cannot people will vote for because they ca n not vote people will vote for because they cannot vote to leave the European Union when there is no clarity as to what that means. We now have clarity and we have either theresa mays deal. Can ijust pause for a second emily will stop we will have an update on the scoreboard in just a few minutes and then we are carrying on with the next phase of coverage with more results coming in and we will have another update. In the election studio we are getting some results in an pattern is forming already. 0ne getting some results in an pattern is forming already. One of the important blocks will come in from scotla nd important blocks will come in from scotland and that will tell us about the strength of the snp and what they might do with their calls for a second referendum on independence. Reeta, how does it look . Several results from scotland, local results and they are showing a Strong Performance by the snp. Scotland voted remain in the Eu Referendum but there are interesting details. Lets look at renfrewshire. This is an area where labour topped the poll last time. You can see whats happened this time round, the snp ahead on 42 of the vote with the brexit party ahead of labour this time round. If we take a look at the change in the vote share, look at that. The labour party down 22 . Emily thornbury saying earlier she felt this evening the labour party was getting a kicking. That does feel like what has happened in renfrewshire. Lets look at one of the other local Authority Areas, the scottish borders. Here, the conservative party has also been quite strong. The snp, a very healthy results. 28 . The brexit party, tying with the conservatives are 19 . If we take a look at the change in the share of the vote between this evening and five years ago, you will see the snp up eight, 90 for the brexit party. The conservatives, down 12 and labour also down 7 . I will show you what this means in terms of the overall share, as we have it so far for scotland. You can see a good result for both the snp and the brexit party. The conservatives have lost their share of the vote. The liberal democrats are gaining a little bit and for the liberal party, 18 on last time. Thank you very much, reeta. So the picture in scotland. Lets look at the scoreboard so far across britain. Just 20 of councils declared. A quick explanation again, counting taking place in local Authority Areas. It is then all added up in one region and that is when we get the meps elected. Brexit party on 32 , the lib dems are 19 and the labour party on 16. A strong night for the brexit party but also the lib dems. Sir ed davey from the lib dems isjoining us now. What does it look like for you so far . Lib dems isjoining us now. What does it look like for you so far7m looks fantastic. We had this campaign to stop brexit. We said if you vote liberal democrat, you are voting to stop brexit and millions have responded. Rather than some of the comments we have heard on your panel it looks like the british people have sent a strong message about stopping brexit. The brexit party has done well, but look at the liberal democrat vote. In the capital in london, we may top the polls if the results i am hearing will be added up like that. For the conservatives and labour, we have beaten them. It is the first time the liberal democrats in a nationwide poll had beaten the conservatives and the labour party. It is an extraordinary result and it backs up vince cables campaign to stop brexit. He said the brexit party have done 0k, stop brexit. He said the brexit party have done ok, but i think you would have to admit they have done better than 0k . They did what ukip did last time with the liberal vote. I think it is a bit too early to say for sure but if you add up the votes of the remain parties it is a strong message. I do agree with one or two of your comments on the panel, you have to look at votes with the green party, change uk and some of the votes that went to the labour party. If you do that with the snp and plaid cymru, it is a strong message and the liberal democrats leading that main vote have got a lot to be pleased about. But now we have got work to do, make sure parliament doesnt allow a no deal brexit to happen and actually calls a halt on the whole brexit proposal and allows the whole brexit proposal and allows the people to have the final say. That is what the liberal democrats promised and that is what we will be campaigning for. The campaign has been fragmented in terms of those people who want to either stop brexit or certainly want to get in the wake of a no deal brexit, that message has been diluted because people have failed to Work Together, is that a fair point . We wanted to work with other parties and we tried to do that, have a remain alliance. The fact we have done well on the back of our local election victory showed the liberal democrats are the leading remain party. We have managed to garner a lot of votes from remain labour and remain conservatives. I do think despite the fragmentation you rightly comment on, it is legitimate to add up comment on, it is legitimate to add up the liberal democrat vote with all the other remain votes. If you do that, you will have a much stronger remain message. I think we should be clear about that. It would be wrong for the media and others to run away and say this is the people saying get on with brexit. They said that after the local elections and they were wrong. The message i am picking up its people want to stop brexit, they want to have a chance to think again. They want a final say. At the end of the night, where do you think you will be with the lib dems in terms of seats and actual meps . It is too early to speculate. I think we will see a large increase and i think we will have the largest increase of any party if you link in ukip and brexit. Which is the right thing to do. The liberal democrats have had a dramatic change and i think we are backin dramatic change and i think we are back in business. We had a fantastic set of local Election Results earlier this month. It looks like we might have our best ever european Election Results, never having beaten the conservatives and the labour party in a National Vote. The liberal democrats are back in business and we are determined to proceed with our campaign to stop brexit as the leading remain party. Sir ed davey, thank you. Good to talk to you. Of course, we mentioned earlier the snp were having a strong night. We will be talking to the snp ina night. We will be talking to the snp in a moment. What about the picture in wales where labour traditionally dominate the landscape. What is happening there with the new brexit party and plaid cymru and the other parties . Reeta, any science . It looks like a very good night for the brexit party. The same pattern being repeated. Anglesey, that means plaid cymru has topped the polls. In all these other areas it is the brexit party that has come out on top. The message were getting from analysts is if the brexit party is winning, it is labour and the conservatives who are losing. Lets look at one or two of the details. This is blaenau gwent, tradition where labour is traditionally strong. It topped the poll in the last three elections. The brexit party on 39 and labour on 24 . If we take a look at the change in the vote share, look at that, labour is down 22 . This is going to be symbolically, very painful for going to be symbolically, very painfulfor labour. Going to be symbolically, very painful for labour. This going to be symbolically, very painfulfor labour. This is an going to be symbolically, very painful for labour. This is an area where michael foot and nye bevan had their parliamentary seat. It is a true, labour area traditionally. Lets look at one of the other local authorities, pembrokeshire, an area where the conservatives have been strong. Thats two conservative mps in westminster from here at the moment. Again, we can see the brexit party way out ahead on 38 . Plaid cymru in second place. And the conservatives in fifth place. And if we look at how that share has changed since 2014, you can see that labour is down 10 , and the conservatives are down 19 . I want to just show you the welsh scoreboard so far, as it is. And there you have it. So, the brexit party on top with 32 of the vote. Well, 91 of councils declared, so thatis well, 91 of councils declared, so that is a pretty solid set of figures. And with labour in third place, thats a remarkable performance for labour, remarkably poor performance, i think it is probably their worst ever showing in a National Election in wales. Plaid cymru having a very strong night behind the pratchett party, plaid cymrus sister party is the Scottish National party, so lets go to alan smith, who has been an mep since 2004, who is waiting to talk to us now. Thank you very much forjoining us. Your thoughts so far on how things are turning out in scotland, because there i think you barely have had 20 of the councils declared so far . Good evening and thanks for pronouncing my name properly, it is rare that people get it right but as a welshman, you know how to do that what is clear so far, and it is early days, is that scotla nd far, and it is early days, is that scotland is a different country, we have a different view of how we see our place in the world and how we wa nt to our place in the world and how we want to interact with the wider european continent. We clearly voted remain in the initial referendum and that vote has been replicated with the vote which is doing well for my party for the moment, but early days yet. Taking the results in the round, it is clear that scotland is for europe, we have voted remain again that vote cannot be ignored. What do you mean, it cannot be ignored, what does that lead to, then . I have said throughout this campaign that the people who pretend to be in charge of the Brexit Process a re to be in charge of the Brexit Process are not in charge of anything. Iam process are not in charge of anything. I am getting t shirts made, i survived the 22nd of may, i have survived mrs may by the looks of things, too . I think what happens next on brexit will be set by what happens in these European Elections. We are seeing a very nuanced picture in northern ireland, wales and scotla nd in northern ireland, wales and scotland and we need to see a proper engagement with the various voices within these islands to try and find a solution. Also the independent republic of ireland has got a lot of useful things to be saying on this as well. We need to be working on this. From my partys perspective, there is no good news in brexit for anybody. Scotland voted to remain. I was one of those who took the government to court to establish that we can unilaterally revoke article 50, and if there is a second referendum on mrs mays deal versus remain, then we are open to that. You know full well what the answer would be from some of the people in westminster, they will say that the brexit party has done exceptionally well across britain, and with that in mind, that is the boost for those people who say it is full steam ahead with brexit, it is not what you say, putting the brakes on, despite the Strong Performance by the snp, the performance of the brexit party will for many people be the signal that it should be full stea m the signal that it should be full steam ahead. How are you going to counter that . Well, huw, in 2014 we we re counter that . Well, huw, in 2014 we were told we were a partnership of equals, a family of nations, were now being told to shut up and get to the back of the bus. That is not good enough the people of scotland, we voted to remain in the referendum, that has been comprehensively ignored, we have been trying to find solutions, the Scottish Government has been putting forward various compromises which could have solved the problems which mrs may showed no interest in solving for herself. We are open to dialogue but we are clear that the best brexit is no brexit and we need to revoke article 50 now and if a second referendum is the way to do that, were open to that. |j that, were open to that. mentioned earlier on about the prospect in scotland and about the snps desire for independence and looking at the strategy for a second referendum there, what will this result do in terms of that process . Well, its very early days on that as well. Lets see where the numbers are when they come into night. We are when they come into night. We are bringing forward legislation in the Scottish Parliament next week to facilitate a referendum on independence, that is very much part of the discussion in scotland. We have a lively constitutional debate on that but what the results tonight so farare on that but what the results tonight so far are showing us is that scotla nd so far are showing us is that scotland is massively endorsing remain parties, it is not unanimous, course it isnt, but because we live ina course it isnt, but because we live in a democracy, but scotland is clearly for remain, we are for europe. Thanks for talking to us. We will be keeping a close eye on the results coming in from scotland, where quarter of the councils are now declared. We are now going to chums foot. The European Parliamentary election for the east of england region. I am the regional returning officer for the east of england. I hereby give notice that at the European Parliamentary election in the gaudino region held on 23 may 2019, the number of votes cast for candidate were as follows. Cast for candidate were as follows. Change uk, 58,274 votes. The conservative and unionist party, 163,830 votes. The english democrats, 10,217 votes. The green party, 202,406 votes. The labour party, 202,406 votes. The labour party, 139,490 votes. The liberal democrats, 361,563 votes. The brexit party, 604,000. So, the brexit party, 604,000. So, the brexit party, 604,715 votes. The uk Independence Party, 54,676 votes. The number of votes which each party or candidate had after the application of subsection 49 of section two of the European Parliamentary elections was as follows. Parliamentary elections was as follows. As regional returning officer for the Eastern Region, i hereby give notice that the seven candidates elected in the region are as follows. Richardliberal democrats. Michael heaver, the brexit party. Catherine rowlatt, the green party. June mummery, the brexit party. Lucy nashinga, the liberal democrats. And geoffrey van 0rden, conservative and unionist party. The total electorate for the Eastern Region was 4 million the numberof for the Eastern Region was 4 million the number of rejected votes was 9589. And the votes for candidates was 1,598,455. The total votes cast we re was 1,598,455. The total votes cast were 1,608,044. The percentage turnout was 36. 48 . Thank you. If the successful candidate would like tojoin me on stage, theyre welcome to say a few words. So, that is the result in the east of england. Lets have a look at the elected members, seven of them in all and we elected members, seven of them in alland we can elected members, seven of them in all and we can see three from the brexit party, two lib dems, one green and one conservative. This is a very dramatic result and a thumping victory for the brexit party. It is, no question. But also, look at the lib dems and the greens, the greens, head of the labour party and the tory party. A very, very clear picture there, both of that move clear picture there, both of that m ove a cross clear picture there, both of that move across of ukip voters to the brexit party, which has been improved upon by the brexit party, really gaining, but also, look at those parties that have had an overt remain message, look at that lib dems formants in that part of the country, and the greens, miles ahead of our two traditional parties, really noticeable. If we look at the change in share, the lib dems, as you say, performing extremely strongly, the conservatives taking an absolute walloping. But this is also important to look at the tra nsfer also important to look at the transfer from how much did also important to look at the transferfrom how much did ukip also important to look at the transfer from how much did ukip lose and how much did the brexit party gain . Ukipfell and how much did the brexit party gain . Ukip fell away by 31 , the brexit party gaining. We need to bear that in brexit party gaining. We need to bearthat in mind, brexit party gaining. We need to bear that in mind, huge amounts of those votes will have gone across from ukip voters, that said, it is still a good result for them, but look at the change and the liberal democrats hope, and it seems, they might be making gains in that part of the country, the east of england, not just of the country, the east of england, notjust london where we think the lib dems have done extremely well, or other very remain urban parts of the country, if they can do that in a region like the east of england, thatis a region like the east of england, that is really quite something. Look at the seats again, just to underline what is happening because as you say, three seats for the brexit party, a big transfer of votes there from ukip last time. But thatis votes there from ukip last time. But that is a remarkable result. As you say, lib dems and greens, gaining three seats between them, in a part of the country where ukip have done so strongly in the past and there has been traditionally a very strong pro brexit sentiment. That is where you are going to get a lot of that support. What do we make of that . You are going to get a lot of that support. What do we make of that7m is quite interesting that actually the brexit party have repeated ukips a successful 2014, ukip got three, and now the brexit party has three, and now the brexit party has three as well. So in a sense it is absolutely right, we have seen a clear switch from ukip to brexit. Interestingly the first named mep is richard tyce, the chairman of the brexit party full we have seen this huge resurgence of the brexit party, the growth of a new party. But i wonder also if we are seeing the death of two parties, the death of change uk, which really hasnt got off the ground at all, and the death off the ground at all, and the death of ukip. This is perhaps a night where new parties are made, old ones are falling. What are you making of it so far . As we expected, we knew it so far . As we expected, we knew it was going to be a bad night for us, difficult results. And so, we have an mep, thats something it has come to that. Youve got to appreciate that we have got some support, there is some support for the fact that we are trying to leave the fact that we are trying to leave the European Union, we are trying to leave with a deal, but we recognise the frustration of many of our vote rs the frustration of many of our voters that we havent managed to do that. But for the governing party to be so far behind, what does that say . This is disastrous this is a very strong message to us, the frustration that we have not managed to deliver brexit, which we set out to deliver brexit, which we set out to do. And how annoyed, frustrated, vote rs to do. And how annoyed, frustrated, voters are with us. But what is it going to change, in a parliament where the covenant has no majority, what is going to change . Youre right that it is very difficult for us right that it is very difficult for us to do it in practice. People are very annoyed with parliament as a whole so it has been very difficult to deliver on the referendum, but we have to. Can ijust say, i think the one piece of good news, i havejust been looking it up, is that Stephen Lennon has had absolute pasting, i am absolutely delighted about that. Tommy robinson, as he has none. His stage name, me robinson, a nasty little man, and he has been com pletely little man, and he has been completely defeated so that is a good bit of news. But i go back to what i said originally, this is a single issue election, if we dont have a clear message on that single issue, we will be punished, and we have been punished, and labour needs to learn that lesson and need to learn it fast. How that move mechanism lesson we learned, what is the mechanism . The National Executive committee will look at the results, as we always do, in order to find out what we will learn, and we are a Big Democratic Party and many of our members will have strong views about it and will be making those views clear. We need to make sure that we listen carefully, not just to what they think back to what they were told on the doorstep by voters. How receptive do you think the leadership will be to that message . Jeremy is overwhelmingly a democrat andi jeremy is overwhelmingly a democrat and i am sure he will listen to the experience and learn from it. We have been told instinctively eat his very resistant to the notion of another referendum patch he is instinctively a democrat and he appreciates we are a long way away from the original referendum which was an in out referendum. From the original referendum which was an inout referendum. Three yea rs was an inout referendum. Three years on, much has been learned and we will not allow a no deal brexit ora we will not allow a no deal brexit or a bad tory brexit to go ahead and we will put it to a referendum and we will put it to a referendum and we need to be clear about that. Emily and all of you will be interested in this, in the poll 2019 is as follows. Animal welfare party, 25,232. Change uk, the independent group, 117,000, 650. Conservative unionist party, 177,964. Green party. 278,957. Labor party. 536,810. Liberal democrats. 608,725. The brexit party. 400,257. Uk European Union party. 18,806. Uk Independence Party. 46,497. Womens equality party, 23,766. Well, theres a lot to take in now. Lets look at the elected members in london and by the ray, the result came infar london and by the ray, the result came in far earlier than we thought. Eight meps elected for the london electoral region. Topping the poll the lib dems is irina von wiese. And for labour, in second place. Claude moraes. No conservatives insight. That is quite a turn up. Lets look at the tally once again. The lib dems, from nowhere last time, now have three meps representing london. That is a search for them. Labour have to, they have lost to meps. The brexit party on two seats. The greens are on one and the tories of lost the two they had last time, change uk, the new party dont have any. The eucalypt grouping which was a solitary mep, but has also been lost. Ukiip. In terms of the performance, lets look at that. 27 of the vote to the lib dems in london, labor party on 24 , the brexit party on 18. Greens on 12, the tories way back on 8 in the london region. If we look at the change, from 2014, the lib dems have increased their share of the vote by 20 . Labour is down by 13 in london where it is strong traditionally. The brexit party on 18 . The tories lost 15 of its share of the vote. Back to the tally again. We are in london, a very important result. There are eight meps in this region. Gosh, well. Thats quite something. London is absolutely the beating heart of todays labor party. Jeremy corbyns literal backyard. That is a very worrying result of the labor party. To see such a move to the lib dems away from them. What are we reading . You have been very open so far. What are we reading about this london performance for the labour party . The fact that people are turning to the lib dems because they like the message that the lib dems are giving in london . As i say, i think its a single issue election andi think its a single issue election and i had many people saying to me on the doorstep, i will always vote for you, i will always vote in generals. In this, wejust need for you, i will always vote in generals. In this, we just need you to get up the message that you need to get up the message that you need to be clear about what you are saying. I would explain what the position of labour was. I would say i know, its taken five minutes to explain. We need to be clearer and sharper and make it unequivocal as to where we are going. That seems to be until and unless we do that, we will be punished. At a general election, it will be a different matter. There will be many other issues and the liberals will not do anything like as well in a general election because of a challenge that we will give them. I would love to hear the conversation between you and glenn mccluskey. Labour has no business talking about a second referendum, i am business talking about a second referendum, iam paraphrasing. Business talking about a second referendum, lam paraphrasing. think that, i talked to len regularly and he is very conscious of the fact that people are split on this and i get that. Thats why for the last three years, we have been trying to deliver a brexit that will look afterjobs trying to deliver a brexit that will look after jobs and trying to deliver a brexit that will look afterjobs and look up to the economy but frankly, were not going to agree to be a deal because their deal is nonsense. Weve been making it clear throughout what it is weve been wanting and we have done everything we can to try to leave in such a way that we look after our people but were not getting there and we cannot agree this and that is why things have now got to the stage whereby if we are being based by a tory bad deal or no deal, we must start making it clear that we need to go back to the people. Could you just give us the good sense. Do you wa nt to just give us the good sense. Do you want to go ahead with this . If they wa nt to want to go ahead with this . If they want to remain, i think that should be the other option. Caroline flint again saying, this talk is toxic. What do you say to that . again saying, this talk is toxic. What do you say to that . I think what needs to be the Guiding Light is democracy and i think we begin with democracy. Come on you can call me a girl. Lets focus. The point im trying to make is, the day after the referendum, i woke up the next morning and said, this is dreadful but we must do as were told, we are public servants. We must go ahead with this but there are ways and ways of leaving the European Union. In the end, 48 52 spoke to me an essential truth which is yes, we leave and we do not go farand we is yes, we leave and we do not go far and we look afterjobs and the economy. That was our Guiding Light on what weve been trying to deliver againstan on what weve been trying to deliver against an intransigent Prime Minister who has not listened no matter what it is weve said and we are running out of road and we are ending up in a position whereby the fear is you are going to elect a leader who wants no brexit, sorry, who wants no deal and therefore we are going to end up with no deal and we must be democrats and say to the public, did you vote for this . Helen. You make out that you somehow have been trying to deliver brexit but you simply havent. Six weeks we we re but you simply havent. Six weeks we were talking to you guys. You voted against exit 37 times. You are voted against exit 37 times. You are voted again and again and again. The only thing you did is indeed vote for article 50. I think you are both in denial, to be honest. Emily, you are in denial about what voters in the your labour heartlands wants and if your labour heartlands wants and if you push the second referendum anti brexit line you will lose more votes. Helen, with respect, what this is showing is that theresa mays deal should be dead and buried. This also is not what the country wants. Its not brexit. The massive surge in support of the brexit party is effectively against the conservative partys intransigence and refusal to deliver but its also a strong verdict against theresa mays deal. Its no deal. You do not represent the majority of the population on no deal and if you think this is the referendum, lets have a proper referendum, lets have a proper referendum and find out exactly what people want. 0ne referendum and find out exactly what people want. One that says theresa mays deal, no deal or remain. Lets split leave dont exactly vote. We are wising up to that one. Its no deal if there is no other option. Every sensible leave vote when the country would like to have a decent yield. Labours deal was not decent, it was not a capitulation. We dont wa nt it was not a capitulation. We dont want theresa mays deal. We will be right on medicines, im sure we can sort something out. Before you leave, when was it you decided the labour policy was as wrong as you have been suggesting it is denied because for a long time, many of your colleagues have been saying what you are saying, youve been pa rt what you are saying, youve been part of the shadow of cabinet that agreed this policy. When did you change your mind . I dont talk about what happens internally. I think that links by others who thought it was a good idea to leak what i said, well, i think is fairly clear what my view has been and i have been making my view is fairly clear but in the end, i thought our policy during this election was, you could see where we were trying to go, it just wasnt clear enough. You been going along with something you say has been wrong. I thought it was right for us to try to find a way through this whereby we left the European Union but we remained close because that did seem to be the way people in these circumstances had to build a haven but i thought when we got to these European Elections, although we were going on the right direction in our policy, we still hadnt gone far enough and fast enough and we would clear enough and idid do enough and we would clear enough and i did do everything i could in public to be clear about that. What ive said behind the scenes a matter for me and my colleagues and im not going to leak the conversations but other people did and it is known what my view was. I understand that you will be going somewhere else. We will be missing your company but thank you forjoining us. We will see when another at another election. Thank you very much. Heidi allen from change uk isjoining us. What is your reading of things there . Here, we have had to lib dems and one green candidate, three brexit in one conservative held their seat. Labour have gone, massive swing to remain. There were significantly more ukiip conservatives, it feels like a swing to remain overall. What are the dynamics of the campaign . Is a new entity . Forgive me, could you repeat that. For you, as a new entity, political entity, how did the campaign go for you . To be fair, it went really well. The candidates, im so proud. They worked incredibly ha rd im so proud. They worked incredibly hard from nothing and what was really noticeable tonight is just the energy in our group. We are down but we are not out. Everybody feels very passionate. Been a catalyst to try and nudge and push for a better kind of politics and people tonight are not downhearted, they know this is the beginning of something. Where do you go from here . Im just wondering, what is your honest assessment of your prospect s, as you look ahead, possibly to a general election. What is your sense of where you are going . Well, it all depends on how soon the general election comes. It does seem unnervingly like it sooner than anybody would like. I think we have to learn. Weve done really well from a standing start but clearly, the prize is the countrys future and we have to look at what went well, what went bad for us and we need to work with other like minded parties were pushing for remain because the country has to come first. Its not about the brand, we have to Work Together and it is something i hope we can achieve in the coming weeks. Im sure there will be people wondering why working together has not happened before now. We were having conversations but, to be frank, these elections came quite quickly before we forget expected them. So we got within touching distance of having a shared candidate between ourselves, the greens and the lib dems so i think we are setting the scene for the future and hopefully we will have enough time between now and the general election where we can Work Together in a more formal structure, thatis together in a more formal structure, that is my mission. Thank you very much and thank you for working with us. I would like to bring in sir john curtis for the first time in this Election Night. Great to have you with us. That have your early ta ke you with us. That have your early take on what is happening. One of the things we have known about attitudes towards brexit for some time is that the country is polarised to polarised between those on the one hand you want to leave without a deal and on the other hand those who want a second referendum in the hope and expectation that we would vote to stay inside the eu. What we have seen in this election is that polarisation being reflected in the way in which people have decided to vote and as a result our two largest, and i now use those words in quotation marks, to largest parties, conservative and labour who have been trying to reach a compromise on brexit and in one case had a failure to deliver the brexit they promise. They have been deserted by voters. The polls indicated that the brexit party would do a lot damage to the conservatives and that is clear. There were signs in the polls that the democrats would do damage to labour but in the end it looks as though they are going to do substantial damage indeed. Basically what we will discover by the end of tonight is that the level of support for those parties who are avowedly in favour of leaving without a deal is going to be roughly similar to the level of support for those parties who are in favour of a second referendum and it will therefore perfectly illustrate the even that polarised division of our country. Of course it is a polarisation that does not make resolving this impasse any easier. Rather what it underlines is that frankly the Centre Ground of brexit politics is very thinly populated and that trying to come up with a compromise is something that at the moment at least is very difficult to sell to the british electorate. We are in the early stages of a conservative leader election. How does that feed into the dynamics of the contest . I think it will feed into the dynamics of both parties. As we have already been seen, the conservative party has taken the message that it needs to deliver brexit if it is going to recover and in particular the idea that the next conservative Prime Minister will be able to early general election in order to try and improve the arithmetic of the house of commons to make it easier the past brexit is probably for the birds because the honest truth is that the brexit party will continue to pose a bigger challenge as it has tonight but still pose a serious challenge to the Electoral Prospects of the conservatives. 0n the other side of the aisle i think we can now anticipate, as we have heard this evening and we have had hints from John Mcdonald earlier today that actually the labour party is probably now going to move much more clearly in favour of a second referendum and therefore, despite their attempts to compromise, both conservatives and labour will now be much further apart on brexit than they were before. The difficulty that the next conservative Prime Minister faces that the next conservative Prime Ministerfaces and that the next conservative Prime Minister faces and the one thing we do know is though many a live voter may not want no may want no deal, the house of commons does not. Delivering brexit is now absolutely crucial to the conservatives electoral fortunes for the labour party being much more clearly a remain party. It will not be costless. There a re remain party. It will not be costless. There are still some leave voters in their party but there are not that many left and the labour party is much more at risk of losing ground as remain voters who have now discovered the greens and the liberal democrats who are also up noticeably and will put in the best performance since 1989. Voters have been going in that direction and thatis been going in that direction and that is not something that the labour party can contemplate going on for very long. In a moment i will talk to the latest entrant into the studio, the prominent anti Brexit Campaigner alistair. Susan is still with us. Rita, firstly take us through some of these result. You have two interesting things here to compare and contrast to leaders. Something that starkly shows what is going on this evening. Two main parties have been getting a thrashing at the hands of voters. In islington, the constituency of Jeremy Corbyn and maidenhead for theresa may, look at the performances of the two main parties in their own backyards. In islington, labour is in second place, topped by the liberal democrats. And in winter and maidenhead, the conservatives are in third place with the Brexit Party Topping the poll and the liberal democrats coming a very strong second on 31 in the conservatives on 13 . If ijust do this and show you how the share of the vote has changed from five years ago, look at that. Labour dropping 19 in islington and the conservatives are 26 down and maidenhead. Some painful results therefore the two main parties. That presents its own interesting thing for us. Will ask alistair blunt question is a prominent labour mac figure how did you vote . I voted liberal democrats. For the first time in my life i did not vote labour and it was a strange feeling but on this issue at this timei feeling but on this issue at this time i think the labour party has let its own supporters and members down and i think it is let the country down in the way that it has failed properly to devise a policy that the party and country could unite around on the way it failed to campaign. Asa unite around on the way it failed to campaign. As a campaigner, fair play to nigel farage and his party, they campaign. The conservatives and labour,. Let me stop you. The welsh result. Members to serve in the European Parliament for the electoral regions and of wales do hereby did give notice that the total number of votes recorded for each registered party in that region is as follows. Speaks welsh. The results are bilingual and they will announce them in welsh. This is the returning 0fficer. Change uk, the independent group. 24,000, 332. Conservative and unionist party. 54,587. The green party. 52,660. Labour party. 127,833. Liberal democrats. 113,888. Plaid cymru. Sorry, that number again. 113,000 885. Plaid cymru. Sorry, that number again. 113,000 885. 113,885. Again. 113,000 885. 113,885. Plaid cymru. 163,928. The brexit party. 271,404. You keep. Ukip. 27,566. The total number of rejected ballot papers was 5655. And ido rejected ballot papers was 5655. And i do hereby declare that the following candid are duly elected as the four members for the said electoral region. So there are four meps for wales and i think this result will be an eye opener. Meps for wales and i think this result will be an eyeopener. Nathan gill, the brexit party. Gillian eva ns, gill, the brexit party. Gillian evans, plaid cymru. James freeman wells. The brexit party. Jaclyn jones, labour party. So there you have the four meps elected for wales, two from brexit, one from plaid cymru and one from labour. If we look at the tally itself, this is nathan gill of the brexit party. The brexit party with two seats in wales and plaid cymru with one. We will go straight from pembrokeshire to immingham in the West Midlands. For the European Parliamentary elections held on thursday 23rd of may 2019 do hair by declare the number of votes cast for each party as follows. Change uk. 45,673. Conservative and unionist party. 135,279. Green party, 143,520. Labour party, 228,298. Liberal democrats, 219,982. The brexit party, 507,152. Uk Independence Party, ukip, 66,934. Total rejected ballots, 8378. I therefore declare that the following candidates have been duly allowed to do for the West Midlands region. First seat, rupert lowe, the brexit party. Second seat, martin daubney. Fourth seed, nina gill. Phil bennion, liberal democrats. Andrew kerr, brexit party. Sixth seat, the green party ellie chowns. Kerr, brexit party. Sixth seat, the green party ellie chowns. Look at that result. Three brexit party, a solitary labour member. The lib dems taking a seat as well as the greens and the conservatives. Look at the tally because that will tell us what happened from last time. Three seats for the brexit party, labour on one. Lib dems have gained a seat. The greens have gained a seat, another Strong Performance by lib dems and greens. The tories have lost a seat and you keep free seats they have disappeared but the brexit party have picked up three. Lets look at the share of the vote. The brexit party on 38 , the labour party on 17 , the lib dems on 16 which is a strong showing by them and a strong showing as well by the greens. The conservatives really have gone down significantly. Lets look at the change from last time. Labour are down 10 , the lib dems are up 11 but the conservatives are down 14 . Back to the number of seats just to tie this up. In the West Midlands, a vital electoral area as we know and certainly in westminster terms there will be a lot of focusing on some of these results in terms of what it could mean for a general election if it comes later this year, the brexit party on three, labour on one as well as live dams and greens and as well as the liberal democrats, the greens and the conservatives. What we are seeing, a pattern, its early days but the brexit party is taking the ukiip inheritance and building very successfully on it and then the pro remain parties, the liberal democrats and the greens, both gobbling up votes and part of the country that on necessarily obvious for them. It tells us that in this set of elections, clarity is winning on either side and the two main westminster parties have been trying in various ways to come up with a softer brexit or some kind of compromise but they are losing out to parties on both sides who are saying, here is a clear message. It might be stopping or doing it straightaway but clarity is the winner. An interesting note before we move on. The people who voted change uk in wales, if they voted lib dems, they would have won a seat, but this fragmentation is important but its true in the north east. The point we put to ed daveyis north east. The point we put to ed davey is very valid. In terms of what happens next in this in politics, whether or not the forces of remain if you want to call it that can get together is a big question. It will be critical to see how they answer it. Since the referendum, the remaining forces have not done a greatjob to be able to get together on anything. Agreeing on a candidate. We will see. It will be interesting to see if we can state that. The labour performance in wales particularly will have sobered a lot of people up. It will. If you add together the results, substantially more than the brexit party god and you assume that many of those who stayed loyal to labour would have been pro peoples vote, remain, there is no doubt that the brexit party has done very well but they virtually gobbled up the ukiip voter. They are getting some support from disaffected labour voters. And by a massive margin, where the labour party is losing, those parties that have a clear message, brexit is back to the country, we got to lead on it instead of facing both ways and that is the lesson for this. I hope we listen to what tom watson and Emily Thornbury has been saying and there will be some labour mps saying, we are at risk but in the end, you have to decide a position, lead on it and campaign on it and once you do that, i believe that you can win the country round. We may have a result from hot yorks. Forgive me. Are they gathering . Lets just stay in they gathering . Lets just stay in the picture. The candidates are coming to the podium in leeds for the yorkshire result. Suzanne, just your take. We talk about wales and the brexit party boat is strong. Its been very good. Ukiip had one mep in wales. The brexit party has two now. Wales voted leave and i think this is really shoring up the welsh vote. I disagree with what alistair is saying. Today the Labour Party Co m es alistair is saying. Today the Labour Party Comes out absolute firmly with a pro european line is the day that it starts to haemorrhage voters, particularly in the north east of england. I think the way in which the labour party has approached these elections has been completely wrong. Jeremy corbyn talking about brexit voters being far right, its absolutely alienate it so many. I think we will find it very interesting. Where does the brexit party go from here . Will it become a party that actually challenges westminster seats or is it going to stay the protest vote that it is almost now. Lets see how well the party is done. I, tom reardon, being regional returning officer for the yorkshire and humber for the European Elections held on thursday 23rd of may 2019 do hereby give notice that the total number of votes recorded for each registered party in the yorkshire and humber region is as follows. Change uk, the independent group, 30,162. Conservative and unionist party, 92,863. English democrats, 11,283. Green party, 166,980. Labour party, 210,516. Liberal democrats, 200,180. The brexit party, 470,351. The yorkshire party, 50,842. Uk Independence Party ukip, 56,000, 100. The following candidates have been elected. John longworth, the brexit party. Lucy elizabeth harris, the brexit party. Each of the parties will now make a short speech so over tojohn first. We have the resultant from yorkshire and humberand we have the resultant from yorkshire and humber and there are six mep selected in this region. Again, topping the poll with a very strong result, the brexit party, John Longworth and lucy harris. Richard corbett belabour who was a familiar labour politician. Shaffaq mohammed for the limb dems. Magid magid for the greens and jake pugh. Three brexit party seats. 0ne belabour, again for the lib dems, again for the greens. The conservatives, as weve seen elsewhere, losing their presence on the regional slate. And ukip, having lost. The share of the vote. 36 of the brexit party, way out in front with a labour in a kind of distant second place on 16 in the lib dems really kind of coming right up and matching labours performance on 16 which is quite a big thing for them to do in this area. The greens on 13, the toys on 7 . Lets look at the change and we will see whats happened because labour have lost 13 since last time. 9 share of the vote additionalfor time. 9 share of the vote additional for the time. 9 share of the vote additionalfor the limb time. 9 share of the vote additional for the limb dems and the greens up by five. Ukip, they fragmented badly since last time which is why they have lost 27 . The tories and labour, quite similar in yorkshire and humber in terms of the damage inflicted on them by this brexit crisis because that really is what were about, as others have said, emily before, for labour, this really has been a one issue election and that is the printer prism through which we should look at these results. Another set of results there that the brexit party will be happy with. Im thinking again, from your point of view, just interesting in terms of the way this is going to translate into any potential change of labour policy. Your view is clear. Emily thornberry, more clear than she has ever been before. About the fact that the party should stop, pause and really consider what its doing. How confident are you that this current leadership is to do that . Ill be lying if i said i was wholly confident but they have to face what is going on here. My worries you will have some labour mps who say this shows we have to move towards them. That is wrong. What youve seen as a protest against the government forfailing seen as a protest against the government for failing to deliver brexit in a protest against labour for having such an unclear policy, an unclear position. Even there, even though the brexit party lead so well, if you look at the greens, the lib dems, the big story here. Its the increase in the vote for the greens in the lib dems. The brexit party increases not that big. I think i suspect when we get to the end of this, if it were a proxy referendum, you are looking at the remaining parties added altogether doing better than the hardline brexit party s. This is what the labour party has to understand. They can have the foundation for winning a general election. If they dont face it, they are facing oblivion. Lets see what richard tices view is. Richard joins us from chelmsford. What do you make of your pa rtys performance . Chelmsford. What do you make of your partys performance . We are delighted by the results so far both here and in the Eastern Region were ive been elected and mep but also up ive been elected and mep but also up and down the country, millions and millions and millions of voters have now got hope. They supported what he stood for. Lets restore trust in democracy, lets promote and stand for a wto brexit and that we need some of our selected meps to go forward and help the negotiating tea m go forward and help the negotiating team and people have backed us very strongly and clearly in the labour vote is haemorrhaging all over the country. Its amazing what weve seen, whether vote has collapsed, andi seen, whether vote has collapsed, and i would say to alistair, the reason its collapsed is because they hadnt listened to their core hartland voter, theyd listen to whats going on in islington. hartland voter, theyd listen to whats going on in islington. I will ask alistair to answer that but im intrigued by the thought that this election has offered hope to people because im wondering how does that happen. How does the brexit negotiating process which weve seen clearly from the European Unions point of view, you consent to have been consistent in the principles, how does that change because fact that youve got some Brexit Party Meps . What weve done is weve sent a very clear meps . What weve done is weve sent a very clear message meps . What weve done is weve sent a very clear message back to westminster that leave means leave and what of also said, and millions of voters up and down the country have the opportunity to say, actually, we are confident, co mforta ble actually, we are confident, comfortable with a wto brexit and maybe westminster mps need to wake up maybe westminster mps need to wake up and smell the coffee and realise, this idea that any deal is better than no deal is simply not backed up by what people feel in the country. We in business, we know that no deal is always better than a bad deal. Theresa mays worst deal in history was quite rightly rejected three times. Now lets, full steam ahead, prepare for leaving no later than the 31st of october, on a wto brexit, providing the maximum negotiating leverage forward, providing opportunity and you can see clearly from tonight actually, people in this country they have confidence in our abilities, our great nation and they want to move forward , great nation and they want to move forward, they want it done and they wa nt forward, they want it done and they want certainty and we will grow and can grow even faster. Richard, youve lost in wales. The hard brexit party, 42 . Wales is now remain again. Also, ijust had a text. Darren rodwell is the leader of barking and Dagenham Council and hes been unequivocally fighting against brexit ever since the referendum and the meat in the brexit party in Barking And Dagenham which was the only council to vote out. If you show leadership, leadership has been lacking from the top of the labour party, and richard and nigeland top of the labour party, and richard and nigel and his friends can be defeated and that is what the labour party has to see in this. Youve done a very good campaign, your social media has been brilliant, your events have been good, youve had all the roubles coming in, but the only decent campaign, i will give you that, but. What about the Labour Party Compared to the brexit party . | Labour Party Compared to the brexit party . I agree. They have come from absolutely nowhere. You have had yea rs absolutely nowhere. You have had years and years and years and you are losing hand overfist. This is a very bad day for the labour party. You might talk about immaterial. I didnt vote labour. You said that but that is where your loyalties lie. Richard, you come in. Yes, richard . There is an important, it was an important interruption. Alistair campbell is just trying to smear us Alistair Campbell is just trying to smear us suggesting roubles have come in. Not a single rouble has come in. Not a single rouble has come in. Not a single rouble has come in. Richard, i wont come in. Not a single rouble has come in. Richard, iwont apologise. Be big enough on national tv. Dont lose your sense of humour. Dont lose your sense of humour. Dont lose your sense of humour. You slurred us. There are some serious questions about the campaign and we will keep going on them. This is the issue for me which is, how will you, as the brexit party, newly constituted now with these meps, how will you, in practical terms, constituted now with these meps, how will you, in practicalterms, change the brexit outcome that was reached after two years of negotiations between theresa may and the European Union . How are you going to change that . We stood on a platform that some of our selected meps, who got proper experience in business and negotiation, should form part of the negotiating team. Thats clear and people have voted for that. Government, or whats left of it, they need to start listening and wa ke they need to start listening and wake up and say yes, come in, come and help because we made such a shambles of it. There are things we will obviously be doing in brussels. Richard, thank you forjoining us. Richard, thank you forjoining us. Richard tice, the chair of the brexit party in chelmsford. Here we are in the south west and they are gathering. Will we get results . They are gathering. Will we get results . For the European Parliamentary elections in the Southwest Region on may 23, 2019 i do hereby give notice that the number of valid votes cast for each party and individual candidate at this election is as follows. Change uk, 46,612. Conservative and unionist party. 144, 674. Uk, 46,612. Conservative and unionist party. 144,674. English democrats. 8393. The green party. 302,364. Labour party. 108,100. Liberal democrats. 385,095. The brexit party. 611,742. That was 611,742. Uk Independence Party. 53,739. The total number of rejected ballot papers in the region is 9544. I also give notice that i prepared a statement setting out the details as required by the election rules and i hereby declare the following candidates have been duly elected for the south west region. I would now like to ask the first name from each of the parties if they would like to give a short speech to the assembled from. So there we have our latest regional result from the south west of england and Ann Widdecombe, the former conservative m p for maidstone now that one of the new meps for the south west on behalf of the brexit party. Thank the workers of the brexit party. Tonight we reaffirm the vote of 2016 because there was only one reason for voting for the brexit party and that was if you wanted a brexit. And therefore we will go forward, determined that thatis we will go forward, determined that that is what we are going to achieve. When we go to brussels, we will say because of our showing in these elections and the fact that we so clearly speak for the people, that we want a role in the negotiations. And that is what we will be asking for. But ijust take all the voters who voted for us who said to the politicians at westminster that we meant what we said. Ann widdecombe reaffirming the message given earlier that the brexit party want to share in the negotiations if they pick up again after the failure of theresa mays package so far. The brexit party on three seats in the southwest, lib terms with two, a Strong Performance by them again and the green party on one. The conservatives lost their two seats, labour lost the seat and you keep presence of two is gone. The ukip presence is gone. It seems that all the ukip votes are switching to the brexit party. Lets look at the east midlands result as well before i ask my new panel to comment on what is going on. If you look at the result there we have the brexit party on 452,321 votes. Five meps, five seats in the east midlands and there we have it. That is the region itself. Are very important electoral region for westminster if there is a election later this year and again we see the brexit party top the poll. The lib dems in second place, labour away behind in third place and the tories even further behind in fourth place with the greens close to them. They we re with the greens close to them. They were nearly defeated into fifth place by the greens in the east midlands. If you look at the names of those elected because we spoke to the person at the top of the pole short while ago before the result was announced. Annunziata rees mogg the lead brexit mep along with her colleague Jonathan Bulloch the lead brexit mep along with her colleagueJonathan Bulloch and matthew paton. Bill newton done a vetera n matthew paton. Bill newton done a veteran liberal veteran politician and then rory palmer for labour. Looking at the tally we have free brexit party seats, one lib dem, one labour but and the conservatives losing their present. 17 of the vote to the lib dems, labour on 14 and the change from last time. The lib dems 12 Percentage Points up and labour 11 Percentage Points up and labour 11 Percentage Points up and labour 11 Percentage Points down. The tories are 15 Percentage Points down and the greens up five. That gives you the greens up five. That gives you the picture and i think that we have two sets of results there that really reinforce the kind of drama of what were seeing evening. Both sets of results reinforce the same thing that the labour party and the tory party are in big trouble when it comes to brexit. Neither of them have managed to secure a single mep in those two regions, both of those two regions in the millions of the voters therefore will be represented by people other than the main westminster parties. European elections are not a direct read across to what might happen in a general election in the future, nonetheless we see tonight profoundly a real rejection of the two main eminent westminster parties and how they have handled brexit. The idea that a party can look at trying to come up with something that might work yes, 0k, we will leave but we will do it this way and try to compromise, clarity is needed. Clarity and a clear messages coming out on top, be that the liberal democrats all the brexit party. I like to introduce my guests. Welcome to the three of you. Mark francois for the conservatives good to have you with us. Where are we. What do we know . On your local Election Programme the morning after the locals, i predicted that the locals would be like the bit before a synonymy where the sea goes out and then on the European Elections, as it were, the wave comes crashing in and that is what has happened. This is a political synonymy. The brexit party have absolutely wanted it to there is no other way of describing it. The conservatives, we knew that we would have a bad night. We we re knew that we would have a bad night. We were stealing ourselves for that andl we were stealing ourselves for that and i am pleased to see my old friend in the east of england, geoffrey, but the effluent has truly impacted the rotary air conditioning, as it were. The lives of had quite a good night, change uk have been annihilated, heidi allen reminded me reminded me ofan heidi allen reminded me reminded me of an monty python Election Night sketch where there was a slightly silly party and their candidate tries to pretend they had a great night even when he has no votes and bless her, heidi reminded me of that. Change uk will disintegrate andjoin that. Change uk will disintegrate and join the liberals and we know that. Is the end of them. The bottom line story tonight is that the british voting public have taken their revenge on the british establishment. They know that the british establishment tried to prevent us leaving despite the result of the referendum and, to put it bluntly, tonight the british voting public have lent across the table and given them an experience they will never forget. And what is that for labour mac . A disappointing night for labour. 0ne that for labour mac . A disappointing night for labour. One thing we have been clear on is that we are opposed to leaving the eu without a deal. I am afraid that we have ended up in a situation where a kind of unholy alliance of second referendum campaigners and no dealers have conspired to push the country to the edge of no deal because when you have a polarised debate with these two groups fighting each other to a standstill, you end up crashing out out of the eu on october 31 without a deal. Lets remember that whatever the electoral calculus, what a disaster that would be for our country to i, for many years have been saying we should leave the eu with a deal that keeps a close relationship with the Single Market, with a form of customs arrangement andi with a form of customs arrangement and i think that reflects the 52 48 mended. Move house but stay in the same neighbourhood. We are now, sadly, in that sadly divided and polarised environment where a dirty word and that is terrible for democracy. Basically earlier they we re democracy. Basically earlier they were saying they got it wrong, that the policy needs to be looked at, there was no clarity about what was being said and the party needs to stop and look again at its attitude toa stop and look again at its attitude to a second vote and all the rest of it. Did it surprise you that she said that . It did not surprise me. Emily has been attacking in that direction for some time. I think that we should have stuck to our guns and stuck to our guns as the party of a sensible and pragmatic bridge building form of brexit, one that recognises the very legitimate grievances, many of the people who voted of the 17. 4 million, why they voted of the 17. 4 million, why they voted the way they did, recognise the need to protect the jobs and livelihood and Environmental Standards and that is perfectly doable, by remaining closely aligned to the Single Market. Are you not as divided party is the conservatives appeared to have been . Is labour divided to an extent that it cannot be repaired under this leader . I dont think you can compare the tory psychodrama over europe that has gone on now for 30 years. They are self indulgent into knee sign wa rfa re self indulgent into knee sign warfare has absorbed so much time and energy and resources. The self indulgent internecine warfare. As things stand we are divided because we had a referendum that has clashed with labour or european policy but those of us who voted remained but who have accepted that we need to leave are looking for a way through this that can reunite our deeply divided country. Way through this that can reunite our deeply divided countrym way through this that can reunite our deeply divided country. It is looking good for you so far. Another good Election Night for the liberal democrats. 0ur message at this election was clear. Stop brexit was the key platform that we stood on at this election and we have had that clarity throughout, we have been a pro European Party for our entire history as did our predecessors. For liberal, that commitment to the eu has been clear. People have voted for us. We have gone up the most significantly of all parties and that gives hope to everybody who does want to stay in the eu who thinks that our best future is as members of the eu because that is absolutely still possible the longer the brexit goes on and the absolute shambles and miss that it is. The brexit party won hands down and therefore wants to leave the eu as soon as possible, if necessary with no deal. If you wanted to remain you voted liberal democrats. If you really wanted to leave as soon as possible you voted for the brexit party. The conservative party, inasmuch as we had a campaign, it was to support the Withdrawal Agreement. That has been slaughtered for the Withdrawal Agreement is now effectively dead as a dodo. No way it is coming back to parliament. It is gone and off the table. But what the British Public have voted for is the British Public have voted for is the clear winner in this election and that is the party that said we should leave as soon as possible, and if necessary with no deal. You can spin it however you want but they want to. Yes, as an individual party. But if you start to add up the lib dems and the greens, the picture looks different. This is a European Election, not a general election. A European Election on european policy. I think you could probably argue, we may all agree, that people have voted more clearly on european policy in these elections then perhaps they have ever done before because there was so much more interest. I think that isa fair so much more interest. I think that is a fair statement and when they voted on the european issue they voted on the european issue they voted quite clearly for a party that says it wants to leave as soon as possible, even with no deal. There is absolutely no hesitation about who won this. Brexit party, and i say this as a conservative who voted tory and will do my whole life, the brexit party have won this hands down and they want to leave with no deal. Adam, thanks very much forjoining us. Im going to put the latest results up so viewers can see them. We see that the brexit party yahweh in front at 32 , plaid cymru in second place. Talk me through about what that campaign did and what this campaign did in your view. Two big stories of the night, really, as they were saying just a few moments ago, wales did vote to live three yea rs ago, wales did vote to live three years ago and it is tonight a remaining nation. If you tally up the votes for remaining parties in wales burst the pro brexit party is in wales we won. Im not including labour which faced both ways the set of policies we had from stephen kinnock. That leaves us on the second big story of the night, the uniquely welsh story of the night which is a stoic victory for us overtaking labour for the first time, in our94 overtaking labour for the first time, in our 94 year history. It was worth the wait but for labour, i think you have to go all the way back to 1906, probably coming third in an election in wales. This, we often over use these words, seismic, et cetera, but this is truly a historic occasion in wales and i think yes, the european issue was right at the heart of this. But once people break that habit that has been here for a century in wales, labor party dominance, then that allows us as a party than to start to build a platform which will hopefully take me to victory as a minister data Labour Market party. How would you explain a party that has only just been how would you explain a party that has onlyjust been formed, the brexit party, ramzan with 32 of the vote in wales . Well, look, there is obviously a leave support in wales. The interesting thing is to compare the actual result. What has happened is the remain, there has been a remaining surge in wales. Weve seen in ourown remaining surge in wales. Weve seen in our own case, the liberal democrats at that accommodates the story of the tectonic plates shift being. Shifting. Thousands and thousands of disaffected labour voters were completely exasperated out the vacuum of leadership that is the labor party, notjust in the case ofJeremy Corbyn, we have new leaders all around in wales, this was the first electoral test of the new leader in wales and he failed miserably because he did not provide the leadership that even his own supporters and members were rightly expecting in terms of these incredibly serious challenge that we are facing. 0f incredibly serious challenge that we are facing. Of course, wales being ripped out of the hearts of the heart being ripped out of the economy. What does this do for the Brexit Process than, 20 of the share vote, you made your point on died, but what difference does that make now to the Brexit Process . Well, look, whatever happens over the next few weeks another party has a leadership vacuum. We will be exactly where we have been here. Going around in circles, whistling in the wind until we recognise we had a public vote here, remain has one in wales. But the public need to dislodge this parliamentary logjam by having this peoples vote. Im seeing it here in wales, seeing it on the results of sin across the whole of the uk, the only way we can resolve this matter once and for a role is to have a final say in the referendum, and unless we accept that, just in democracy is going to collapse. We have to take it back to the people. Peoples livelihoods are at stake. Lets take it back to those people and finally get a mandate which takes us forward to the future. Otherwise well be having these conversations four weeks, months and years ahead and we cant afford that in our democracy. Adam price, thank you. Some reaction on the panel without speaking to us. Ill come back to the panel in a second because ive been asked to pause for a second. Lets have a look at where we are in terms of the share of the vote. So far weve got quite a few results in now. The brexit party on 32 , the lib dems on 20, and labouron 14 brexit party on 32 , the lib dems on 20, and labour on 14 and the greens on 12. Conservatives on 9 of the vote as we speak, change uk on 3 and you kept on 3 . Well be back in and you kept on 3 . Well be back in a moments on the latest results as they come in, but i want tojoin annable for the news. Thank you. Good morning. The brexit party is emerging as the big winner in the European Elections as the results come in. Its also been a successful night for the liberal democrats and the means, both labour and the conservatives have done badly. Here is nick with a round up and just they want, his report does contain some flashing images. Greens. They want, his report does contain some flashing images. Greens. The vote that wasnt supposed to take place for a parliament that was supposed to be out already, this isnt a normal election. But it looks like that will be reflected in the results. For the two parties that dominated reduced politics, its been a tough night so far. The conservatives are facing a kicking, having failed to deliver the brexit they are honest. Early rejections suggest a voters as 10 , they could finish with. Labour are having a challenging night. Finished fifth. The big winner so far other parties with clear, unambiguous brexit policies. The brexit party didnt exist a few weeks ago, but Nigel Farages movement is on course to finish first. The intelligence i get is that the brexit party is doing pretty well. The lib dems on the remain side are doing reasonably well, but it looks like, looks like its going to be a big win for the brexit party. The liberal democrats to are faring well, they came first in london. Results suggest they could finish second uk wide, a huge comeback, given they one just one seat last time. Every vote for the liberal democrats as a vote to stop brexit. In scotland, the snp are miles ahead, with almost 40 , the party could take three of the six seats there. In wales, the brexit party top pole, plaid cymru came second. Labour, a party that has dominated welsh politics very century is third. More results will pouring over the next few hours, but so far it looks like a big night for parties who have taken a firm stand on brexit and a bad night for the others. Counting is also under way across europe where voting took place today. Exit polls showing a doubling support for the green party in countries like germany where the party has jumped into second place behind chancellor angle a miracles a conservative party. Ireland, finland and france are also predicting strong results for the greens. In france, the far right National Rally party has topped the European Election vote against president s Emmanuel Macron ruling party. Marine le pen called the risotto victory for the people and called on president macron to dissolve the french parliament, something he has already dismissed stop more eu citizens voted in these elections than in any other in the last 20 years. The European Parliament said europe wide turnout was around 51 , 8 higher than in 2014, and the first significant increase in turnout and selections began in 1979. But british turnout isa began in 1979. But british turnout is a suspected to be lower than the average is a suspected to be lower than the average expected, at 37 . Well, thats it from me for now. Ill be back with an update in an hours time. Now its back to you with eu election 19. There welcome back to the bbc bosman collection studio. Now we were talking to adam price for the break does my collection studio. We were looking at the position in scotland and just drawing upa position in scotland and just drawing up a comparison with to what was going on. Lets have a look at the scotland projection so far because this will tell us something about the state of play there with the state of snp and the newly constituted brexit party. We have snp on 38 in this projection in scotland. And we have the brexit party on 15 , the lib dems on 14 , hot on their heels, conservatives on 12 , and labouron hot on their heels, conservatives on 12 , and labour on 9 . If we look at the seat projection, because again, the seat projection, because again, the snp, we think on this projection gaining a seat and going up to three. Brexit party on one, lib dems on one, labour losing its two seats in scotland does this projection and you keep losing a seat. With that in mind, our scotland editor sarah smith joins mind, our scotland editor sarah smithjoins us now. Whats mind, our scotland editor sarah smith joins us now. Whats your assessment of where things are right now . The big story in scotland is the success of the snp taking their vote to around 38 . We havent got all of the results and yet, but that isa all of the results and yet, but that is a significant increase on what they had five years ago and could mean as you say if they go up from having 263 seats. They campaigned on a very clear anti brexit message saying vote s p if you want to stop exit. They specifically appealed to people who are not natural snp supporters, they dont naturally supporters, they dont naturally support scottish independence. They are saying lenders your vote to send are saying lenders your vote to send a remain message. It appears that may have happened. Lend us. In the brexit party coming here with the brexit party coming here with the second proportion of the vote, its not unanimous merely unanimously a remain country. The lib dems have done well, the labor party have suffered very badly in this election, losing both of the seeds they held in scotland for the European Parliament, they have lost about 17 of their vote. That may be, as about 17 of their vote. That may be, as i said, people who voted labour in the past, ending their vote to snp to send that message. The lib dems are up significantly as well, maybe some labour voters lent their vote to the liberal democrats, but what is clear here is that the s p party will be the one snp will be celebrating if they really have taken almost half of the votes in scotland. What can we save the momentum behind the cause for another referendum on independence, because we were the snp be able to use this sign of strength as some kind of case for Nicola Sturgeon to press on with that with more force . It will certainly give them a boost in morale and momentum. Momentum is everything in politics where you are seen to be on the up and people listen to your arguments, you have an arguments and people are receptive to what you have to say. Nicola sturgeon is not only on for a second referendum on brexit but also scottish independence. This is about the eu, its not about independence, so you can vote for us the eu, its not about independence, so you can vote for us even the eu, its not about independence, so you can vote for us even if you arent a natural independent supporter, its a bit difficult to turn that into an argument that gottman wants to have a vote on independence, but what they can say is look at these results and look how different they are from the rest of the way the uk voted, that showed us of the way the uk voted, that showed us that scotland is politically a different country and they will use that to help bolster their arguments as to why scotland should have the choice of whether it wants to be an independent country. Thank you very much for now and we will be back with you later on. Letsjust much for now and we will be back with you later on. Lets just ask rita for some comparisons between different local authorities because accounting in local authorities in these regions the counting. Those who were strongly leave and those who were strongly leave and those who were strongly remain, what have you found . Who were strongly remain, what have you found . Stark differences which wont surprise you. The differences in the details are interesting. Here, a strong leave council with 60 of the vote, and another one here with 60 to remain. The brexit party are way ahead of everybody else on 45 sent of the share of the vote and the conservatives are in joint fourth place 45 , the conservatives are on just 9 of the share. In the strongly remain councils you can see the liberal democrats you have gained the title of the party of remain if you like, in those councils on 24 . A clear lead over the other parties and labour is in second place onlyjust ahead of the green party, really stark differences there. You can see that reflected in the map of the United Kingdom. As it stands at the moment weve got lots of results in and you can see there a great deal of turquoise representing the brexit party. A lot of yellow in scotland for the snp, but if used lodges of oranges for the liberal democrats. Afew oranges for the liberal democrats. A few spots of orange. And here, you can see labor has come top of the pole in only seven local authorities in the entire country that labour has come top of the pole. The conservatives have failed to come top of the pole in any single local authority in the United Kingdom. That is astonishing for both main parties when you hear it so startlingly laid out. In the abstract that is an astonishing thing and on this set of results it suggests, on this European Election, that wrecks it is breaking the hold of the two most established parties. There we have the heart of this political storm. There is nigel farage in southampton in the south east region. Farage in southampton in the southeast region. Important to remember the last time the seeds we re remember the last time the seeds were fought in 2014, ukip was top of the poll then. In the European Elections it is not unprecedented for a small Outsider Party to sweep in. And of course the brexit party built on that inheritance from ukip but they are so far outperforming them. I would like to start first of all by thanking the 67 local returning officers and their administrators and their staff who have worked tirelessly on these elections that have been applause thank you very much. That will be appreciated because many have also been running elections prior to this and we had to run them at short notice. That was appreciated. I now have the results. Being the regional returning officer for the south east region of england in the European Parliamentary elections held on may 23, 2019 give notice and declare that the number of votes recorded for each party or candidate is as follows. Change uk. 105,832. Conservative and unionist party. 260,277. Green party. 343,249. Labour party. 184, 678. 260,277. Green party. 343,249. Labour party. 184,678. Liberal democrats. 653,743. Applause the brexit party. 915, 686. Brexit party. 915,686. Cheering the socialist party of rate written. 3505. Uk European Party 7645. Uk Independence Party, 56,487. Jason spencer mcmahon, 3650. David round, 2606. Michael turberville, 1587. I therefore declare and once declared i invite them to join therefore declare and once declared i invite them tojoin me on stage, the following candidates have been duly elected for the south east region. Nigel for a rush, duly elected for the south east region. Nigel fora rush, the duly elected for the south east region. Nigel for a rush, the brexit party. Nigel farage. The second seat allocated to the liberal democrats and the candidate awarded is catherine beard it. Catherine bearder. The third seat goes to the brexit party and the candidate elected is alexandra phillips. We will stay with this list because nigel farage may Say Something but a very Strong Performance therefore the brexit party here. The lib dems again strong. Once again in a strong second place absolutely and, again, the conservative Party Falling back appallingly in that region the last time they were in second place just behind ukip. This time, nowhere near it. Look, the greens have an mp in this area. In the coming weeks it will be interesting to see what they do with this. We heard from brexit Party Representatives tonight and they will now try to demand a role in negotiating the brexit deal or how we leave the eu. That seems very difficult to imagine how they may do that. And what sort of a negotiation is that . One without a deal . Surely they do not suggest taking place in westminster negotiations but they are westminster negotiations but they a re clearly westminster negotiations but they are clearly going to seek some kind of role and we know that nigel farage is extremely good at making his case to the public in a way that appeals to a certain kind of voter and he has done that again. A second lid them up there. This is the biggest region in terms of seeds so that there are ten being elected for this region. And last time around, the conservatives had three seats. Daniel hannan is returned as a conservative mep. He has been one of the prominent wrecks at campaigners. And i think almost there, arent we . Another brexit party member. Another couple to go. We need another page. We will. It is a big region. Another liberal democrats seat. Wow. Three now for the liberal democrats. A very Strong Performance by them as welljoe swenson will get a chance to Say Something that she is nodding happily while watching these results. And one more. One for labour john howarth. He is coming up labour john howarth. He is coming up so thats labourjohn howard who has been a previous mep. up so thats labourjohn howard who has been a previous mep. I now invite the candidates. Has been a previous mep. I now invite the candidates. has been a previous mep. I now invite the candidates. I think we will now hear from nigel for arch invite the candidates. I think we will now hearfrom nigel for arch nigel farage. Never before in british politics has a new party launched six weeks ago top polls in a National Election. The reason is obvious, we voted to leave in a referendum, we were supposed to do so on march 29 and we have not. There is a huge message here. A massive message here. Labour and conservative parties could learn a big lesson from tonight although i dont suppose they actually will. The new date is october 31. William the brexit party have and women of considerable is this experience. We wa nt to considerable is this experience. We want to be part of that negotiating tea m want to be part of that negotiating team we want to be part of that negotiating tea m we wa nt want to be part of that negotiating team we want to take responsibility for what is happening and we are ready to do so. I hope the government is listening. I have to say this, if we do not leave on october 31 then this because you see for the brexit party today will be repeated in a general election and were getting ready it. Thank you. Well, there is a warning from nigel for arch. I think that is fair to say. That if nigel farage. That if exit does not happen there will bea if exit does not happen there will be a general election in which the brexit party will try to make its point. Any thoughts . brexit party will try to make its point. Any thoughts . I wonder if he thinks that nigel is right. Because the problem with all these messages is that they do not help us move forward in terms of having a resolution. We have a very strong showing for a party who wants to ta ke showing for a party who wants to take a out of the eu straightaway. A strong showing from parties that wa nt strong showing from parties that want to stop brexit altogether. Is a country that does not help us move forward. People have told us again that leaders want to leave and remain as want to remain and any attempt at moving forward in the middle hasjust not found any attempt at moving forward in the middle has just not found any appeal with voters in a profound way. On that point, the Withdrawal Agreement tonight is as dead as a dodo. The default position is that we leave the eu on halloween. There are only two things now that can prevent that. One is if there were to be an extension of article 50 but that only happens if we. It cannot be extended against our will. And if they veto it. Indeed. If we dont ask it doesnt matter what they do. You must assume that appropriate it tory Prime Minister, someone like dominic or steve barker or boris would not do that. The only other way of preventing it would be an act of parliament. And that is extremely unlikely because, number one, of a bill that tried to do that only got through by one vote, twice. And that was before these results. And i think many mps who blithely voted for Yvette Cooper before these elections, when they work out the result in their own seat, they will not do that again in a hurry. Material leave, these elections increase the chance of leaving on october 31, even if necessary with no deal although what i am most wanting is a agreement rather than no deal. It also has implications for the conservative leadership contest. That will go to our members. We take it down to two and we have 140,000 ambers. All the surveys by our website show clearly that any brexiteer candidate beats any remain candidate when they are matched off. All this does is amplifies that. The only way to fight a brexit party is to deliver a true and genuine brexit. One of the consequences of these results in terms of the tory Party Leadership contest is that anybody who voted remain in 2016, their campaign is now over before it has begun. Remain in 2016, their campaign is now over before it has begunm turbochargers the case of leading brexiteer. What we see from this is the liberal democrats have gone up the liberal democrats have gone up the most in these elections if you ta ke the most in these elections if you take the u0 party is the predecessor to the brexit party. It is different. Perhaps let me speak. You see this huge surge and, indeed, you see this huge surge and, indeed, you see the greens going up. You see a huge surge in support across the country of people saying enough is enough, this is a mess and what we need to do is bring it back to the people to decide. We just did. You have had different potential competing visions of brexit and cannot even agree amongst themselves. We just had a European Election crosstalk let jill election crosstalk letjill finish. Dashmac letjill finish something that has im sorry but on this result the suggestion that people are suddenly up suggestion that people are suddenly upfora no suggestion that people are suddenly up for a no deal brexit i think is u nsafe up for a no deal brexit i think is unsafe suggestion. The party were advocating that handsdown. Just over one third of the vote . Suggestion that we go on that path is very unsafe. We need to put it back to the people. that path is very unsafe. We need to put it back to the people. I am absolutely convinced that no deal brexit is an economic catastrophe. These let me finish, mark. I have 4000 steelworkers in my constituency who depend on frictionless trade with the eu and i am convinced that if we leave without a deal those steel works are in jeopardy. If we leave without a deal those steel works are injeopardy. Big problem on the second referendum is that there has never been a pathway for getting there because we had an opportunity if we had voted for the Withdrawal Agreement built that at Committee Stage we could have had a set piece debate and vote on having a second referendum but the people campaigning for that did not want the Withdrawal Agreement built through its second reading. We have a situation where many people on the no deal side have said what they wa nt no deal side have said what they want but have not thought about the implications economically. And for people on the second referendum side, they stood up and said what they want without setting out a pathway of adding there. And if you have politics only about what are never about how you will end up with a serious mess. The house of commons voted on whether or not to have a second referendum three times in the last few months. We debated it for hours. We voted three times and every time we did we voted not to do it. Its not as if. Whereas the house of commons has been very clear that no deal will be a catastrophe because as the government s own pages set out. Here is the difference. The house of commons has voted on certain propositions. We are elected by the people. People voted today and they voted to leave. Party that advocated leaving, even with no deal is we have a declaration coming up in manchester. Held on the 23rd of may, 2019, i hereby declare that the total number of valid votes as notified to me, giving to each registered party and individual candidates is as follows. Change uk, the independent group, 47,237. Conservative and unionist party, 131,002. English democrats, 10,045. Green party, 216,581. Labour 380,193. The brexit party, 541,643. I therefore declare that the following did to the north west electoral region. Claire regina fox, the brexit party. Teresa Mary Kelleher and, labor party teresa mary griffin. Chris davis, liberal democrats. Henrik eiser overgaard nielsen, the brexit party. Gina dowding, the green party. There we have the result from the North West Region of england. This involves eight meps, so lets have a look there was not we have the brexit party once again topping the poll and electing three meps for the brexit party. Labour on two having lost one. Lib dems on two having gained two. The conservatives losing two seeds to have no sense at all and you keep losing their three as well seats. Its again repeating the pattern weve seen elsewhere. The brexit party on 30 or more. Labour on 22 , the brexit party on 30 or more. Labouron 22 , lib the brexit party on 30 or more. Labour on 22 , lib dems on 17 , greens on 12, conservatives way behind on a percent and you keep and change uk behind. We see 12 down for labour, 13 down for the conservatives and you get, well, a big job. But as weve seen overnight, a big transfer to the brexit party this time. The brexit party clearly also taking votes from the conservatives and labour too. So its a mixed pattern, isnt it . Ill talk to my new guest on the panel in a second and introduce them properly. You are very much. But id like to go straight to talk to the new brexit party mep Ann Widdecombe. A very good morning to you. Thank you forjoining us. Good morning. Congratulations on the result. What you think the results tell us about our National Political picture . think its very straightforward. The people have once again voted to leave. Because there was only ever one reason for voting for the brexit party, we didnt cloud it with any other issues. We said voted if vote if you want to brexit. That is what the nation is done big time tonight. Weve only been around for six weeks and so i think what this does is send a very clear message to westminster again. That if they dont sort out leave, then, at the next general election, both the big parties are going to face carnage. Of course. No one is going to deny that the brexit party has done very well, the lib dems have done exceptionally well and the greens have done exceptionally well, how would you expand that if this was than a vote to leave . Wikiwiki, i said the brexit party made it about one thing. There are numerous reasons for voting green, notjust because they stand for remain wa key wa key, if you because they stand for remain wakey wakey, if you care about Climate Change or the environment, you would vote for greens, there is a range of issues. And the lib dems have policies that hug very good locally, that are very good, this is what nobody can deny. Only one reason for voting for us and we have top pole whether you like it or not. Plaid top pole whether you like it or not. Plaid cymru. Top pole whether you like it or not. Plaid cymru. The lid their message was clear plaid cymru. The lid their message was clear lib dem, stop brexit, you couldnt get any clearer. Im not saying that is not so, what i am saying is there are also other reasons. People have told me other reasons for voting for those parties and indeed when people talk to me about the greens, they have usually talked about things other than brexit. So i know there are mixed reasons. And that is way think nigel farage was so right to say, and people criticised him for it, were not going to cloud this issue by making policy pronouncements now about what we may do after a general election. Were going to focus on the question of the moment the nation has sent an answer. Those voters looking at this now and thinking 0k, answer. Those voters looking at this now and thinking ok, the brexit party have done very well, what is now going to change in practical terms . What is this party going to do now would support this campaign and has its meps elected, how is the brexit party now going to change process going to change . First of all, i think this sends a message to westminster which will almost certainly guarantee, i cant see suddenly, because you never know these days, but should certainly guarantee that the next Prime Ministers committed to delivering racks at by october 31. I think that is one very big achievement tonight. Our slogan was james politics will good, i think weve already changed politics over the next few months. Changed politics for good. We are also saying we believe that we now have the moral authority to be involved in the negotiations because we are going to be the Biggest Party in the uk delegation at the European Parliament. Just to be clear, which negotiations are those . Getting out of the eu. From which, by the way, we should already be out. We shouldnt even be having these elections, you. These elections are a clear demonstration of the fast that has envelopes westminster plaid cymru. That the elections have been done, theresa may spent years on them, which negotiations are you talking about . Im talking very stra ig htforwa rdly talking about . Im talking very straightforwardly that we should have a say in what brexit looks like stop that is what im talking about. And i believe we would. Its pointless to say the eu can just sit there and refused to talk to britain because the eu has as much interest as we have in getting this sorted. They have believed until now and with good reason, i may add, that they could just do what they liked with us and we would comply. Well, the british people, unlike its politicians have given them a different answer. Of course. Im just making a point that negotiations have terminated, we are heading towards a deadline of october 31, there are no other negotiations planned, so im just puzzled as to where the brexit party intervenes in this process . How does that happen . Thats fascinating, nothing elses plan so becomes minister is going to do absolutely nothing between now now and october 31. Is that what we are saying . That isa 31. Is that what we are saying . That is a nonsense and you know it is a nonsense. So, you think the negotiations are going to be reopened . I think we can put pressure on the eu. But actually im not interested in their further concessions, i want a clean brexit and that is where we have got to put our pressure. Good to talk to you. Thank you so much forjoining us. Well, with us, Tobias Edward from the conservatives and john ashwood from labour and join barry from the greens. Thank you for turning up and getting into the lions dan. I thought she was pretty feisty there, what do you make of it . She didnt give us all the answers. And i firstly say thank you to all the people who did vote conservatives. Its important to say that was about andi its important to say that was about and i also say i understand why so many people didnt. Why they stayed at home. People didnt think this was going to be an election that we we re was going to be an election that we were going to have the people use that as a protest vote a vote one way or another to support a very binary position that they have on the referendum. Did you expect it . Yes, the backdrop to this is it doesnt matter, the growth of the economy is going well and employment is high. We are one of the greenest countries in the g20, all that is com pletely countries in the g20, all that is completely subsumed, overshadowed by the one issue of brexit which have failed to deliver to the british people. So theres a trust issue that we recognise and that is it is reflected not just that we recognise and that is it is reflected notjust today, but also the local elections a couple of weeks ago. So we have a massive challenge ahead of us to regroup to focus and that is why i hope this leadership contest that we are now having does actually provide that answer. Just, ill come to join in a second, but that leadership contest should result in a leader who is where is that leader placing brexit in your view . That leader needs to unite the country, notjust speak to the base of my party, but to actually increase the base of my party and the yonder. To speak for the nation, to try and unite the even the numbers today are more or less divided into thirds. Those who supported remain parties, those who used brexit to vote for brexit, and those in the middle who are trying to support a party that did try and provide an answer to brexit itself. But i stress the point, i understand why there is an appeal to brexit. Its really straightforward, their message, get out of europe. But when you probed analytic and they are, you probed analytic and they are, you didnt get an answer as to what her brexit actually look like, and it just goes back her brexit actually look like, and itjust goes back to the referendum itself. Miss widdecombe, we all have different views to what netting out an remaining looks like. Leader who was openly proposing or considering a no deal brexit, is that leader likely to unite or not . I think one of the shortfalls we made in the first batch of negotiations was to set redlines. To set circumstances that we would refused to budge from before it even got to brussels. So ive been critical already, saying please, lets not do that in this leadership contest. We must not limit ourselves as to what we can do in further negotiations on the call for new deal is clearly a appeal to the base. I hope that this leadership election is actually about who is the best for the country, notjust Party Membership. I want to ask you the same question, john. Where to start. Its very disappointing, isnt it, for the labor party and im so sorry for very good labour collea g u es im so sorry for very good labour colleagues who lost their seats tonight. Its usually disappointing. Imean, were tonight. Its usually disappointing. I mean, were going to have to really reflect on these results and understand what has happened. The first thing that strikes me is that all those people who voted leave in the brexit original referendum still wa nts the brexit original referendum still wants us to leave and a very angry we havent left. But there are also huge numbers of people who are very angry who voted remain and are also very angry and wants another referendum. We, as a party, have tried, having campaign for remain in the referendum, we tried to engage the referendum, we tried to engage the 52 who voted leave, we tried to put forward a proposal which brought both sides together, but clearly this election has become a mini referendum, a binary choice and remains have gone to the lib dems and greens, and people who want brexit have gone to the brexit party. Because your message is not clear. I think i message party. Because your message is not clear. I think message is party. Because your message is not clear. I think i message is clear, we put forward a compromise. In this type of election, people didnt want to compromise, they want a rerunning of the referendum. Weve got to understand that, we have got to discuss that in our party and im not remotely complacent. I think its very serious when youre losing huge numbers of vote to the lib dems in islington, but equally were losing in bowls over. How does a labor party which aspires for the country keep roadsides of that coalition together . So we have to reflect on that and do some pretty deep thinking. And summarising Emily Thornburys message earlier, she was saying, you know, this is the moment where we have do just take stock and realised that the policy position weve been putting forward isnt working. You dont seem to be going that far. What you think we should do . Takea that far. What you think we should do . Take a look at the policy again . Look at the possibility of a second referendum or what are you suggesting . We have supported a second referendum. Its been very qualified. If tory mps had voted for it, it would be indicative. We do have a formal labour proposal. Putting together a compromise solution to get both sides together and if we couldnt get that, in order to block a damaging no deal, they would go for a referendum. Looks like were to get Doris Johnson for a referendum. Looks like were to get dorisjohnson is the tory Prime Minister who will probably go for no deal now and if you dont support that, you have to work with us to block that and perhaps the way to block that, is a referendum. We mentioned several times. The fact you put in a Strong Performance. Im going to ask rita to tell us about your moments and to see some diggers. Im under no pressure but you probably know this. The greens are having a very good night. Their share of the voters gone up from around 8 last time around 12 now. From having three meps 27 meps. They have come top in two Council Areas. A strong result from bristol. The greens on 35 there. Where had the liberal democrats on 23 . This was a labour voting area five years ago. Interesting the turnout here is 44 . Bristol was very strongly remain voting. There is being a lot of comment as to whether turnout has been higher in remain voting areas than leave ones. Will have to crunch the numbers shortly. Let me take you to the other big greens success which is brighton and hove, an area where the greens are traditionally strong and they have put in a Strong Performance again. 36 share of the vote, well ahead of the liberal democrats so they will be very happy with those two results and i want to go back to page, in order to again reflect on the fact that the greens have come top into local Authority Areas here. That is two council more than the conservatives have failed to come top in any single local Authority Area in the country. Thats fascinating and with that in mind, imjust going thats fascinating and with that in mind, im just going to also go back to something said earlier by anne widdicombe. She said a vote for the greens are vote for different things. People using the green vote to say this is an anti brexit vote, are they right or wrong . It was the clearest a nti are they right or wrong . It was the clearest anti brexit vote you could make. Funny that i have to say this because normally we get accused of being a single issue party but compared to others, we were also standing for bold action on Climate Change plus dealing with the causes of brexit and thats the thing i think the parties here have done extremely badly by being unclear on where they are going to go next, compared to the parties were very clear about where they stood on brexit, its where they have really messed up which is not dealing in those three years with the causes of exit, not going back and listening to those places that were crying out for a voice and saw brexit as a way to express their views and opinions about being ignored. These parties really do need to take stock. Thats what the greens have been doing and why we did so well in the local elections and its also why we did particularly well in these elections so it isnt just particularly well in these elections so it isntjust about brexit but cani so it isntjust about brexit but can i say, on the question of who did best in terms of brexit, i hope you are adding up the overall percentages of the vote for the brexit party, which i have is 32 , and you have the liberal democrats on 20 and us on 12 , level with the brexit party. Then youve got change uk which managed about 3 . That is the combined vote of the very, very clearly remain parties ahead of the brexit party. The point has been made a few times. This is not a victory for the nigel faragas party. They intend to do nothing now. Apart from comp claim that we havent left with no deal which was their only policy. We are in a position where we have to be looking at all of the parties were not standing for nothing at all. That puts together some kind of deal to puts together some kind of deal to put to the people and puts that deal to the people. Its the only thing we can see that can take us forward. When everybody has rejected the establishment parties so badly, crying out for something no. You have led very neatly to our projection. Lets have a look at the projection. Lets have a look at the projection. This is a set of figures. The brexit party is currently on 32 . However. You can look at these results in different ways. The lib dems on 20 on the current projection. The conservatives have done a very strong showing. Thats the Great Britain projection. That 4 figure is slightly misleading. You keep on 3 . Other parties on 2 . Plaid cymru on 1 . But in wales, that is 20 . Sian is smiling that ive gone through all those figures. We can add them up in different ways. John, if people are looking at this and thinking, professor curtis, is the result of this election pro or anti brexit, what would you say . Its approximating to a draw. I draw the conclusion by taking into account two pieces of evidence. The first is the avowed stance but also the evidence of the opinion polls as to which with the parties that were overwhelmingly drawing their support from either the well of levers or the well of remainers. To parties, overwhelmingly almost entirely supported by leave voters. The brexit party and you keep. Total vote 35 . There are three parties. The liberal democrats, the greens and change uk which are in favour of and change uk which are in favour of a second referendum and two according to the polls, their support overwhelmingly came from remain voters. I am leaving out the nationalists because they were one of the very few parties that were successful in getting quite a lot of leave voters as well as remain voters. Let us stick to the three parties that are pro second referendum and overwhelmingly being backed by remain voters. I think the honest truth is, first, reminding people just how polarised the public are on this issue and indeed, most leave voters will prefer to leave without a deal. But most remain voters are very attracted by the idea of a second referendum and as John Ashworth hasjust idea of a second referendum and as John Ashworth has just admitted, the attem pts John Ashworth has just admitted, the atte m pts to John Ashworth has just admitted, the attempts to come up with a compromise at least so far as the public is concerned approved unconvincing and acquired very little enthusiasm in what has become a defect though second referendum. To that extent, its also a reminder that actually the opinion polls have been telling us at support for remain and leave is still very close to each other. Again, there is nothing in the selection to guarantee what the outcome of a second referendum would be. We are a polarised country and evenly divided and that is one of the reasons why this exit impasse is going to be very, very difficult to resolve and i think as of the early hours of this morning, finding a pathway that is going to bring the country together, shall we say, if the conservative party can find a Prime Minister who can fulfil that role, then our public going to have to be sure chilean or should i say even they should be like church hill or even like thatcher or even like tony blair. They will have to be a very good Prime Minister. Bringing the country together over something that is clearly divided it. But it needs a policy which can reach out in different ways to different people and that seems to be some really elusive. It is indeed. Clearly it is difficult to see how you can turn leaving without a deal into a compromise position. Living with a deal could be turned into a compromise position, as long as the deal was sufficiently attractive to remain voters but certainly, theresa mays deal was not only unattractive to leave voters but also remain. The idea of a second referendum could be turned into something less divisive if indeed much more effort were expended and certainly has been so far in trying to persuade leave voters that look, you face a house of commons that is not willing to back leaving without a deal and therefore as a result, leaving itself as being stymied, lets put itself as being stymied, lets put it back to the people so that people can demonstrate this is their view, that they do was to leave the European Union either without a deal on some terms and conditions yet to be specified. The trouble is, most of the campaigning for a second referendum but certainly all the parties by saying there are favour ofa parties by saying there are favour of a second referendum, are all ones that are in favour of remaining inside the European Union. At the moment, this is not a process that could be presented as a neutral way out of the brexit impasse. Maybe it is now too late for it to be sold as a way out. Therefore, one has to say how our politicians get out of this mess, well its not very obvious at all. Many thanks once again. Its a very cracked crystal ball but in terms of here and now, we shouldnt forget how appalling this 90s for the tories, the governing parties, its their worst performance as a party since going back to 1832 and in the Council Areas so far, 311, the tories have not come top in a single one of those areas so if this was a first past the post election, they wouldnt have taken a singleseat. For a governing party to be performing like that, its really dreadful for them. Be performing like that, its really dreadfulfor them. On be performing like that, its really dreadful for them. On the be performing like that, its really dreadfulfor them. On the road, southampton. Daniel is there for us, daniel hannan. Thank you forjoining us. What is your own take on your party performed partys performance . The last thing i want to do is argue with the wonderful laura was brilliant but weve done a lot worse than we did in 1832 in terms of National Vote share. Even if you cant the 350 your tory valued rather than 185 years of the conservative party, this is our worst ever result and you dont need to be s apologist to understand why. You dont need to understand all those gizmos. Expect psephologist. As long as this takes place, a chunk of the electorate will be upset. Do you think its possible to reunite the country as john curtice was saying . The next Prime Minister, whoever it is . Do you think that possibility of reunification is there . A possibility and an imperative. They have sake, we have got to stop this awful culture war. Three years now. People calling each other the most appalling names, treating fellow countrymen as if they were enemies. We are still stuck in the arguments of 2016. Except its worse because the actual 2016 campaign i thought was fought in a much more friendly way. When we were running leave street stalls. We pose purcell together and wish each other. The nasty assist, since result came in and the longer this is drawn out, the worse it gets. We need to make brexit happen but we need to do it ina way brexit happen but we need to do it in a way that carries the majority of the 48 with others. It may go too farfor some. There must be of the 48 with others. It may go too far for some. There must be a way of finding a close and cordial relationship with our european alloys allies which respect the result and restores legal sovereignty. What does this result do in terms of the momentum of the conservative leadership campaign, what is your reading about . I think all the plausible leadership candidates are now saying we will leave without a deal if that is the only way of living. And paradoxically, that may be the best way of getting a deal, because i dont think the European Union ever really believed that theresa may was prepared to walk away from the table. And of course there were powerful voices in westminster telling her, hang tough here, we might be able to reverse the whole thing and get her to drop it. To the eu was never incentivised to begin to engage realistically without about a mutually beneficial outcome. I think we need different, credible leadership in order to make that happen. And i think the one thing we arent sort of his talent. There are plenty of able, clever, patriotic, energetic leaders out there. And your choices . I only get a vote when the mps have narrowed it down to two, just an ordinary party member. Your choice now . We are reverberating with talent. You jesus, thank you forjoining us tease us. I think not the party, but the nation is looking for greatness now, to give us energy, the inspiration and vision that excites us and reminds us and move us forward again. Its a massive challenge. The numbers just forward again. Its a massive challenge. The numbersjust put forward shows that actually the situation has not changed, that views have in transit from the referendum itself. It seems to be a draw and the conservative party rightly is being punished. And my worried is as daniel was hinting there as well, its easy to get into number ten if you are a contender, you press the right buttons and get your with allowance and put out the rightjune you get your whistle out. The tough job of staying there. You need to put the nation first and it will require compromise. I heard the courteous Mark Francois speak to you earlier, you cant have in transpositions like that in my party if we want to continue inking we can stay number ten. We have to compromise. The damage this is doing internationally, i was in italy for the 75th anniversary of the battle of monte cassino, and it was interesting of getting the perspective of what britain was seen as abroad. We are seen as a nation that participates, as we did then on the 75th anniversary, the d day landings, we stepped forward as a nation when other nations hesitated, but we are doing that now. Were so into do with brexit and until we get a resolution, that compromise will then be prevented habited on participating on the International Stage as the world changes very fast indeed. Prohibited, nobody is stepping forward because more and more nations are becoming more populist, more protectionist, china is on the rise, so is india and africa is changing rapidly. We have a reputation internationally but we have our heads in the sad continually discussing brexit in the sand. It must be more about this, but where written goes on the International Stage. Do you detect an appetite for compromise . Even what youve said about brexit, a very coherent case for lots of people, where is the appetite for compromise there do you think . We need to go back to the people and ask this again. We need to go back with them with something that has been passed to parliament. Thats where compromise needs to be made. But showing the places where we came first, what that says is, if we, the greens win a majority of both in Council Areas, that suggest we are going to win seats in the general election does make if they were once tomorrow, the conservatives would struggle to win seats because we are a first past the post system. Im not a fan of the first past the post system, but labour and the conservatives are in terrible trouble. They do need to be working out something that we can put back to the people so they can have that day. John curtis to the people so they can have that day. John cu rtis analysis to the people so they can have that day. John curtis analysis was quite fair though day. John curtis analysis was quite fairthoughi day. John curtis analysis was quite fair though i dont necessarily ee, fair though i dont necessarily agree, and the s p who sit with a massively growing green group in the European Parliament snp, if you look at the latest opinion polls, what people are saying its now 56 remained 244 leave, that is quite a gap to where we in 2016 46 44, young people turned out in enormous numbers for the rinse because they arent so keen on the live dams, they are saying for the first time in these eu elections and they want their say, they need that democracy in the peoples vote. We would be happy with that because that would be democracy. Thank you very much. Either way, tobias, you mentioned, wa nt either way, tobias, you mentioned, want a casino. So the italian picture is very interesting for us as well, what id like to do now is go to malan. Ill talk to my colleague James Reynolds go to malan. Ill talk to my colleagueJames Reynolds and talk about the activity there milan, and talk about james about the activity there milan, and talk aboutjames albini. Asthmatic Matteo Salvini. He came out ahead, he got 32 of the votes, that the centre left Democratic Party next and then the populist five Star Movement followed. But bearin five Star Movement followed. But bear in mind is, in 2014, in the last European Election, Matteo Salvini got 6 . His party got 6 in the polar now hes got 30, its the first time the league is not a National Election, its immense ministers of anyposition as the leading dominant politician in italy, despite the fact he the Prime Minister. He is only the deputy Prime Minister. But is the most powerful person here. He wanted voice in europe. The bear this in mind, hes no longer talking about leaving europe or having referendum is about the or euro membership also he wants to disrupt the institution from within. Thank you very much for the update. We saw the italian results there. James reynolds, our correspondent in milan. And, just highlight some of the results of sin in brussels. Seen in. Highlight some of the results of sin in brussels. Seen in. Its been quite new ones in the end, you remember those big headlines leading up remember those big headlines leading up to the election on the european stage will be in the uk focused on brexit . Nuanced, the rest of the eu was either worried or excited about the more nationalist right wing parties doing extremely well here. The parties are no longer, as james said, wanting to leave the eu because voters didnt seem that keen on that idea anymore, they wanted to change the eu dramatically from within. Theyve got the establishment rattled but tonight its more of a fragmented vote. The trend has been as weve seenin vote. The trend has been as weve seen in general elections across the European Union a bleeding of support out from those parties of the traditional centre left and centre right and voters instead looking for answers elsewhere. Looking for parties and politicians who more reflect their own priorities and values. Some have gone to the nationalist right and others have gone to the far left. Very much also to the greens, the greens have had a Successful Party tonight. A another takeaway does make another segways these are the European Parliamentary elections but they have had a big effect on some very powerful national governments. Angular miracles Coalition Government is in trouble. Her cdu party has done terribly internationally Angela Merkel, the social democrats have done even worse. Can this government survive . And Angela Merkel survive her full term in office . Ab . Hangs over that tonight a big question mark. European parliamentary elections typically have low voter turnout but the turnout was up today. People really cared whether it was about the environments orfour really cared whether it was about the environments or four or against parties. They are turning out to make their voice heard. They called today for a change but im not sure european establishment is ready to give them that change and that is something everybody is going to be looking to see. Thank you very much. Katya adler monitoring brussels and european Member States. Lets have a look at the percentage share scorecard as it currently stands for the uk. But with the vast majority of the result in now, in these European Elections were 2019, this is the percentage share of the vote. The Brexit Party Topping the poll with 32 of the vote. The lib dems are 20 , labours share is 14 and Jeremy Corbyn, and the greens, the coleaders, one of them is with us, 12 . Then we have the conservatives in single figures 9 , their outgoing leader theresa may gets to elect a new leader, then we have changed uk a new cabonne three percentage. That is where we stand. What i would like to do now is take a little pause and go to annable for the new so far. The brexit party is emerging as the big winner in the European Elections as the results come in. Its also been a successful note for the liberal democrats and the greens, but both labour and the conservatives have done badly a successful night. Two thirds of the count has been completed. He is nick ea rdley count has been completed. He is nick eardley with a round up so far. His report does contain some flashing images. A vote that wasnt supposed to ta ke images. A vote that wasnt supposed to take place for a parliament we we re to take place for a parliament we were supposed to be out of already. This isnt a normal election. And it looks like that will be reflected in the results. For the two parties that dominate british politics, its been a disaster this night. Conservatives took a kicking, having failed to the brexit they promised, they are on course to finish fifth with less than 10 of the vote. Labour mac two are being punished, said to finish third labor also being punished, the big winners are parties with unambiguous policies in europe. The brexit party didnt exist a few weeks ago, but Nigel Farages movement top the poll. Never before in british politics is a new party launched just six weeks ago, topped the polls on a National Election. The reason of course is very obvious. We voted to leave at the referendum, we were supposed to do so on march 29 and we havent the liberal democrats to have had a big night. They are currently second across the uk, a huge comeback, given they just one across the uk, a huge comeback, given theyjust one a single seat last time around. Every vote for the liberal democrats as a vote to stop the exit. Brexit. The green vote is up to, and they are said to be the conservatives into fourth place green. The conservatives into fourth place green. In scotland, s p are miles ahead at 40 , the party will take three of the six seats they are. Snp, there. In wales, plaid cyrmu came second. Labour, who have dominated politics therefore a century came third. It looks like a big night for parties who have taken a firm stand on brexit in a bad note for the others. Nick eardley, bbc news. Bad night. Counting is a cross a cross news. Bad night. Counting is a cross across europe where voting to waste today across. It looks like many of the established players have lost out. The bigger centre parties are said to these dozens of seeds with the European Peoples Party projected to lose 43. The centre right party will still be the largest however, with 178 meps. The socialists and democrats on the ce ntre left socialists and democrats on the centre left are predicted to lose 39 seed, down to 152 seed. Seats. One of the parties that are fitting from that is the greens who have doubled support in countries like germany. The party hasjumped into second place behind dantzler Angela Merkels conservatives. Ireland, finland and france are also predicting strong results from the greens. Chancellor. The far right National Rally party has topped the European Election all vote against Emmanuel Macron, Marine Le Pen called the result a victory and on president macron to dissolve the france parliament, something he has already dismissed. And more you use voted in these European Elections than any over the past 20 years, but the same company said for the uk. The europe wide turnout was about 51 , 8 higher than 2014, and the first significant increase in turnout and selections began in 1979. Bridges turnout is expected to be lower than the average at about 37 be lower than the average at about 37 british. Now, lets go back to hugh with eu election 19. Welcome back to the bbcs collection studio. I would like to take stock. Before we talk about some of the scottish results, laura, just so far, what are our headline thoughts . Brexit party, the clear winners, maximising the inheritance they got from ukip. Theyve been outperforming ukip. Really, really squeezing the tories, terrible result for them as a governing party. In fifth right now but weve also seen labour being squeezed very severely, particularly at the hands of the lib dems seems a bit of a replay of the local elections. Smaller parties with clear messages about brexit have seen their votes do very, very well. Our two main westminster parties who been fighting amongst themselves between the two of them, and inside their own parties over how to handle brexit, they have both had a bad time indeed with some real standout results. Labour coming fifth in scotland, third in wales. The tories not coming first in one single geographical area. Their worst fears are being revealed to them tonight. Lets focus on scott. Look at not just the labour performance would broadly. Take us through some of the highlights there for us before we bring ian in. The highlights are very strong snp performance in scotland, just some of councils where the snp has performed very strongly. Thats going to a couple of them. Into glasgow, first of all, where you see the snps vote is way ahead of everybody else. 44 for the snp and remember, in the last two European Elections, labour topped the poll. The change in the share of the poll. The change in the share of the vote, really, really painful result. 20 of the share of the vote. Lets look at one another local Authority Area. East renfrewshire. Here, the conservatives topped this poll in the last two European Elections. Now the last two European Elections. Now the snp are way ahead on 34 , conservatives getting just half of that. Just take a look at those figures in terms of the drop of the share of the vote. For both conservative and labour. Really painful reading for both the main parties. I want to show you one more thing which is the way in which the map has changed. If i press this for you here, you will see that his scotla nd you here, you will see that his scotland as scotland has voted tonight. A whole sea of yellow for the Scottish National party with shetland and orkney in the lib dem orange colours. I want to show you how the map look five years ago. That whole swathe of lou which was conservative in the border areas, and read around glasgow and edinburgh, well that is all changed now. What you see is snp yellow. may have said it earlier but we wont get the full scottish result until midday tomorrow because we are waiting for the Western Isles which mr blackford will no all about. Ian, good to have you with us. Two questions. Was this, for you, a 1 issue election. Do therefore consider this to be, your performance, to be an anti brexit vote . Performance, to be an anti brexit vote . We were very clear, we asked people to vote for the snp because we wa nt people to vote for the snp because we want to stop brexit. In the referendum in 2016, 60 2 of those voted to remain. We wanted to send message to westminster that we have no desire to be dragged out of the European Union against our will and we asked people to support the snp this week but one of the things i would say is that with been in government in scotland since 2007. Empower of 12 years. The map will just seen, with the exception of orkney shetland and where the liberal democrats one, that is an extraordinary result. On the other hand, the conservative Ruth Davidson said send a message that we dont wa nt said send a message that we dont want a second independence referendum but i have to say to Ruth Davidson, that hasnt worked. Its a stunning result for the snp tonight and both labour and conservative have got what they deserved. The constructed ambiguity of the labour party, facing two ways at the same time. We are seeing the results of that and im delighted the people of scott and have shown trust in the snp. The best result in a European Election ever in scotland and that 30 , support the brexit parties had in the rest of the United Kingdom, the best performing party in the whole of the United Kingdom was the Scottish National party in this election. Its worth picking up again but my second question is going to bejust again but my second question is going to be just that, again but my second question is going to bejust that, the momentum which this vote would suggest and how that feeds into the demands that you are facing from lots of your members for an absolutely cast iron guarantee of a commitment to another independence referendum. You are saying clearly this vote feeds that very strongly. We will work with others in parliament to make sure we end the chaos of brexit. We want to see a peoples vote. Its the right way to move ahead and a number of the conservative candidates for Prime Minister are advocating would be disastrous for our economy so we have to stop that and be prepared necessary to revoke article 50 and i would be asking colleagues across parliament to support the opposition but the message for the people of scotla nd but the message for the people of scotland is that westminster is in chaos. There is no functioning government, there is a Zombie Parliament and if you want to protect the Economic Issues the economic interests of the people of scott, we have to have the power of independence but the Scottish National party when we stood for election in 2016, we stood on a ma nifesto election in 2016, we stood on a manifesto commitment. There was a change of circumstances, we reserve the right to call a referendum. We won that election in 2016 with a majority for independence in the Scottish Parliament and it ill behoves anyone in westminster who would seek to frustrate the democratic decision of an elected government in scotland at six to choose an independence referendum. They should respect the sovereignty of the people because that is at the root of this. John . You talk about constructed ambiguity. I respect our position has not worked. To the staff trying to bring both of these sides together, that is what we need to do. This Election Campaign became a binary choice. An brexit or remain. That didnt work for us. You can see that in the results with had tonight. I dont accept its constructive ambiguity. We are trying to bring people together with a compromised deal. If our narrow situation where there will be a conservative Prime Minister that wa nts to ta ke conservative Prime Minister that wants to take the uk out of the European Union on an ideal basis, and there is a very well question that the labour party are going to have to face. Will theyjoin with us . As you know, ive worked with the liberal democrats. What do you mean . What procedure of parliament . We have to build a consensus. We have a responsibility. If you would let me answer the question, we have to build a consensus on the basis of having a peoples vote and there are collea g u es having a peoples vote and there are colleagues and the party who share that view as well. Were going to have to find a mechanism to do it but to say we can do nothing is not the answer. While we got the issue of revoke. We will conduct a mechanism and a second. I know its 23 minutes past one but i want to bring in leila moran, who has been waiting patiently. Tell us what this vote m ea ns waiting patiently. Tell us what this vote means in terms of your party. What are you advertising this vote as . Is this simply and clearly an anti brexit vote . As . Is this simply and clearly an anti brexit vote . Its two things. With the local elections, i said the liberal democrats are back and we are here to stay. But also we went into these elections with a really super clear message, stop brexit, just make it stop. The boat share shows nationally, we are second nationally but if you add up to remain vote, the people who want to peoples vote, us plus the greens plus the snp and plaid, that is a bigger boat share than the brexit party and a clear election the clear message of the electorate is sending to westminster is to put this back to the people. How does the selection change the process . This is what people are asking. Youve done well and put in a very Strong Performance. But in practical terms, how does this change the progress or otherwise of the Brexit Process . Progress or otherwise of the Brexit Process . Apart from anything else, it stops this rhetoric that are the last election, x number of the electorate voted for brexit party s. This is now another National Election in which that is not true. In fact, and you can verify this, the brexit party want that further referendum so it puts it firmly back to whoever ends up governing this country. Weve got potentially, we know we are going to have a new Prime Minister. What message is this sending to them, if they decide to tax to the right, westminster will try to stop them. There are several ways we can do that. We have a speaker of the house who has said he wa nts to speaker of the house who has said he wants to do everything he can to respect the will of parliament and i think this willjust reassert parliaments view which will include a lot of moderate tory mps as well. You will feel emboldened by this to continue to work cross party across the opposition benches to make sure we dont end up with no deal which is potentially what we think is going to happen to the tory party. How important will this result turn out to be there for the future of the lib dems who are also looking for a new leader . Its critical. We are to kids of politics, we are here, we are back and if you look across the country at areas where we polled incredibly strongly. These are areas where we look contract to make gains again in westminster, whenever the next general election is going to be called. Maybe sooner, maybe later growing is our strength. Without a membership surge in the last few days, enormous strength now andi last few days, enormous strength now and i think what the future holds for our party is an incredible future and im so excited by all these election result. Its a great day for the liberal democrats. Layla moran, thank you for talking to others. Rita, just talk us through some of the lib dems results so we know exactly where theyve made these gains. Weve got some of their best results appear on the screen and you can see here, they performed very strongly in london in fact. They came top of the pole in london but richmond upon thames, kensington and chelsea, westminster, wandsworth, all were lib dems Strong Performances. Lets take a quick look at richmond. This is where the leader, vince cable, has his westminster seat and look at that, the liberal democrats taking half the liberal democrats taking half the vote in richmond, a really stunning result for them and this is an area that voted conservative in the last three European Elections so i really, really Strong Performance there. There vote share by 33 . Conservatives down by 27 . I want to show you one more here on this list. Hammersmith and fulham. This is effectively the liberal democrats taking on labour here, labour came top of the pole here five years ago but the liberal democrats, clear winners here tonight and lets take a look at the change. After 28 of the lib dems and a real plummeting and vote share for the conservatives and vote share for the conservatives and for labour. I want to show you how theyve done in london. You see here that this is the liberal democrats youve topped the poll in london. Elsewhere, its been the brexit party and if we do this, you can see how the colours are orange in the centre, red on the outside. That means that has all gone liberal democrats in the middle and thats how it looked five years ago. A very different picture, 2014 now. Layla moran, a final word on the list of greatest hits . The greatest hit of all is london. We have mayoral elections coming up and it opens the door to large numbers of voters who have lent us there vote for the first time to the fact is unless the labour Party Decides where it wants to be or backs peoples votes, they are at risk, potentially next year so great times ahead for the liberal democrats but labour and the tories need to sort themselves out. We will let you have some sleep now. The last result is coming, lambeth, another London Council area, is a liberal democrat game from labour. By liberal democrat game from labour. Bya liberal democrat game from labour. By a very, very significant margin. The lib dems vote increasing by 23 . Labour down by 24 . If you dont know london, for lambeth to go to berlin dams from the labour party, thatis berlin dams from the labour party, that is something but you are touching on with layla moran and with ian in the studio, its really not clear what difference this is going to make the process because wherever we are at in this brexit fiasco, its our parliament that has to ta ke fiasco, its our parliament that has to take the next steps. The lib dems. While these results give us messages, they dont set out a Clear Pathway for the country. This is the problem with all of this. It was the brexit party, nigel faraga says this is all about delivering on 2016 but what is this leading practical terms . Whether it is a wake up call or a reminder when you see the results in scotla nd reminder when you see the results in scotland and in london how dangerous it would be to move to wto terms, how the conservatives will be perceived in scotland and in london. Financial services are required to have a relationship with europe. It will be hit by a move to wto. That is the challenge we face, there are entrenched positions here and that is what we need to discuss. We need to look beyond our party base and thatis to look beyond our party base and that is so critical to put the nation first. I am bound to say because you are being open in discussing it. Your party base is tacking in a Key Direction and it is not in the direction that you seem to be setting as desirable. We are the oldest and most Successful Party in the world and there is a reason for that. We react, we modernise, we move forward. We develop our policies to reflect the people around us and that is exactly what we need to do now. If we do not do that then, yes, we wontjust lose local or European Elections, we will lose the next general election as well. Surely tory Party Members will look at these results and think my word, look what nigel farage has done to us. When if we go out on a wto it will be a disaster. It is not clear what the best procedure is but if we want to block that, guys like you will need to work with us to block Boris Johnson you will need to work with us to block borisjohnson taking us out with a nodal scenario. block borisjohnson taking us out with a nodal scenario. I get the ins and outs of who was standing in that perspective. It is more about having a proper debate about the issues. We glossed over them in the referendum, what does leave mean . To take control. I understand that when you speak to people in the north west of england and they want to know what the eu does for them. They do not see the benefits. It was never explained to them. We have had 40 years where we have not sold the purpose of the eu. And the eu has done no favours by drifting. It is interesting, the backdrop behind us, you have a ball representing the eu and then you have all the countries in europe floating around the central figure. That is very symbolic of where the eu goes. I am an internationalist. I was born in new york i have lived and served in europe. But i dont like an eu that takes political power from the uk. And they need to wake up that the results we see here in britain are reflected across the continent. Places like sardinia in italy, and hungary Marine Le Pen in france. There is a Movement Towards the extremes. The role in the eu is to select the new key players. So who will be the next donald tusk . These people dont have a job until november so no one will do any negotiating until after october 31, and that is a challenge to the point i make and that is a challenge to the point imake is and that is a challenge to the point i make is that the eu could do themselves a favour by being a little more competitive within a digital market or energy market, a little more transparent as to what they do and a little more flexible on issues such as migration that have been a concern to british citizens. These things can be done because the eu belongs to all of us. We pulled sovereignty and we Work Together. We have to show a sense of leadership that comes with a. And one reason why scotland is perhaps different from elsewhere in the uk is that we have taken that on and championed it and we have said that we have benefited quite strongly from the eu. In scotland we benefit from the eu. In scotland we benefit from Free Movement of people and we needed to grow our economy. But 20 yea rs on needed to grow our economy. But 20 years on from devolution we have a parliament in cardiff and an administration soon in belfast but how does westminster work with these administrations . Over the last three yea rs we have administrations . Over the last three years we have felt that there has been no respect for the devolved institutions and we have generally tried to compromise with government over the last few years, written markets about Single Market customs unions. It is not about who is right and who is wrong and how to create a space to develop a consensus opportunity. One thing we have to reflect upon in westminster is that we have a minority government and we have to recognise that no single party ca n have to recognise that no single party can fix these problems. When you look at the devolved institutions, edinburgh, cardiff, these institutions are based on proportional representation. Parties have to Work Together and we have to work with other parties to get our policy through. When we do politics in the uk must change. The westminster model does not work. I would like to pick up on a point about the trend in terms of populism, if i can use that word, and whether that is reflected in different parts of the eu. I will bring john back in. John, can we see that these elections have produced some kind of surge for nationalist populist parties or is it more of a consolidation . How do you characterise it . It is difficult to argue that there is consistent evidence of a surge. We have tried to pull together votes the populist and radical right parties. Some are up and radical right parties. Some are up and some are down. On average it looks as though they have done more or less as well as they did in 2014. Soi or less as well as they did in 2014. So i think the argument that there was going to be a dramatic lift, some have done well but others have not done so well and as a result, basically, i think it will be difficult to argue that there is a clear eu wide rise in populism. If there is a group of parties or a kind of party for which there is some consistent that is doing well although not wholly consistent, that tends to be a green party. The modest success of the green party in the uk seems to be part of a wider pattern and may be, of course, the environment is an area where the europeans tend to be active and where voters are often client to accept that International Action is required often inclined to accept. The eu is about to be very active on the term of piece of micro plastics. In terms of the scottish context plastics. In terms of the scottish co ntext a nd plastics. In terms of the scottish context and the s ps performance, how do you see this changing, if it does, the dynamics of the argument around independence and a second referendum . Put it like this. The Scottish Conservative Party campaigned in the referendum, in this referendum north of the boulder, essentially on the issue of whether or not there should be an independence referendum and shall we say it has not done them a great deal of obvious good. In fact, the conservative party north of the border has suffered for the failure of delivering brexit in exactly the same way as it has done south of the border. For me that is inconsistent and probably the principal reason why the snp did not do so well in 2017. Not because of a second referendum but because the snp was losing ground amongst those who voted leave and the conservatives we re voted leave and the conservatives were gaining. Given that the conservative vote north of the border is predominantly leave, a failure to deliver brexit means that vote disappears. But this probably has nothing to do with the argument about independence. That said, the idea that the conservative party can continue to present itself as the single dominant and upcoming voice of unionism that can be clearly said to have had momentum that the snp lacks, i think that analogy died today and the brutal truth is that the snp are clearly dominant in scotland. Almost 40 they got in the election today and that is in tune with what opinion polls suggest. In a general election if one were to be held now or a Scottish Parliament election. It looks as if 40 or so of scotla nd election. It looks as if 40 or so of scotland for the time being at least is family in the grasp of the snp. The only sort that faces in blackford is to win a referendum you need 50 . The opinion polls and support for independence still suggest that although not far short of that figure it is still not above that figure and that therefore we are still not in a position where we can by any means be sure if there we re can by any means be sure if there were to be a second referendum that scotla nd were to be a second referendum that scotland would vote in favour of independence. In exactly the same way that this house of commons would probably not be willing to sustain a government that voted in favour of leaving without a deal, you can also anticipate that this house of commons also may be willing to grant a section 30 order required in scotla nd a section 30 order required in scotland to allow the 2014 referendum to be rerun. The snp are dominant but cannot necessarily deliver. Thank you very much we will talk to you again shortly. I also wa nt to talk to you again shortly. I also want to bring in another guest that we have at the moment to talk about the challenge for labour. This is a different perspective for us because darrenjones is the mp for the north west where the greens have done well in bristol. Good morning and thank you very much for staying on to talk to us. Lets talk about labours performance generally. What can you tell us . I think the labour folk this evening makes it clear that deliberately sitting on the fenceis that deliberately sitting on the fence is not the style of leadership that the public specs from a party of government. And as i am and as and as i am and as and as i and my party have been saying, we need to move quickly on a position. I am saying that we need to have a proper and thorough debate in the party on this but one thing i would ask of darren is perhaps considering that clearly we have done badly in bristol and clearly we have done badly in camden and islington and places of a similar demographic. We have also done badly and bowls over whether brexit party topped the poll. We did badly in mansfield and asheville. So the conundrum that all of us in the movement are wrestling with is how to maintain our vote in bristol and islington and so on and not lose votes in places like mansfield . I wonder if darrens group has an answer . The assessment we make as politicians wanting to leave the country. I think it is very clear that this deliberate fence city has not worked for fence sitting has not worked for fence sitting has not worked for anyone on either side. Lately it has been difficult to persuade members to vote for us alone the party. Public. Alone the party. Public. There we re alone the party. Public. There were members telling me that they could not bring themselves to vote for labour in these elections. Do not underestimate the scale of upset and angeramong not underestimate the scale of upset and anger among the Party Membership. And that is why i think we need a proper democratic debate in the party where we have a co nfe re nce in the party where we have a conference coming up in september. We cannot fudge this because the co nfe re nce we cannot fudge this because the conference in september will bring forward resolutions which will try to give, to firm up our people. What about the description of the Party Position is deliberate fence sitting . There was nothing remotely dishonourable in a party that has asked government to try and find a solution that brings both sides together. The country is clearly divided and we have seen that in the elections today. And when we campaigned for remain in the 2016 referendum we took a decision as a party that we wanted to reach out to the 52 majority who voted leave and try to find a compromise deal. That is what we tried to articulate in this campaign, it clearly has not worked as an alert syntactic nonetheless i still think it is important for a party who wants to bea important for a party who wants to be a government to find a compromise. It is interesting that you now say labour needs to have a democratic debate. There will be many democratic debate. There will be ma ny voters democratic debate. There will be many voters who say that you have been debating this for two years. And it is notjust these elections where it is not getting through. It is clear that we need to do something but lets not rush to quickjudgements on Election Night. We need to step back and understand what is going on and we also have to respond to what is going to happen in parliament because returning to the original part, i dont want to be dismissive of the votes, not remotely. But in many ways, the numberof meps that remotely. But in many ways, the number of meps that end up in parliament will not affect the arithmetic in the house of commons. And if dominic raab or borisjohnson is elected then they will need to work to block no deal. So practically, what needs to happen in your view . agree with jonathan what needs to happen in your view . agree withjonathan we cant keep having a large. The primary purpose ofa having a large. The primary purpose of a Political Party is to elect politicians. So we can serve our constituents and country. Thats been a complete failure. With lot lost excellent meps. Weve come forth in places like my home city of stawell. We certainly wont when a general election. Thats why we do need to go back to clarify the will of our party. I do think we need to do that sooner than the conference in september which is why i am others from across the whole spectrum of the labour party have been calling this evening for a special conference, sooner rather than later because we do need to call for a general election. You cant have too tory Prime Minister is without a mandate from the public. We would be slaughtered at the ballot boxes we have been this evening. Wide how confident are you that the current leadership right at the top is prepared to listen to that message . Jeremy was very clear in his leadership campaign. He was about honest, straight talking politics. Our members have been quite clear already but about of the members would make it clear what the viewers of this and as a democrat, driven by members views, jeremy will follow that. See you are confident he will adopt the kind of measure you are talking about now because lots of your colleagues are not confident about that. Jeremy has too, if thats how he sets out his leadership. Is that right . Im not against a special conference to thrash this issue out. You dont need a referendum to decide your membership ofa need a referendum to decide your membership of a referendum. They are not a great way to resolve complex questions. Its important we have some sort of event that rings people together. I understand why darren and others are proposing that. You cant really wait till september. I wasnt trying to be facetious but i wasnt trying to be facetious but i was trying to make the point, if we think we can fudge this, it will come big time at the september conference. There will probably be a big row on the floor of the september conference. Its probably in our interests to get something resolved. The clock is ticking. If someone the boris is determined. The same dilemma that labour has been wrestling with. One mp has tweeted a very disappointed result. If we move more towards remain, we can guarantee the loss of many seats across the country in a future election. That is the reason that labour has had this problem. Members of the public, not people, there are different views. That is why they came up with this ambiguous position but its not served them well. final but its not served them welt final point, weve heard time and again from colleagues of yours that the kind of thing you are proposing, Caroline Flint was saying this earlier, they regard this as a toxic approach. Your problem is, it doesnt address the issue of deep divisions. I think people like honest politicians. Nobody can really say brexit is good for our country. The whole point is to get into the debate. We need to make a case as to why we are in the European Union, one that matters to people and set out why a Labour Government would transform their lives in a way that would meet many of the challenges. This fence sitting, people see through it. I believe that we can do that is the labour party. Thank you very much for joining labour party. Thank you very much forjoining us. Some social media from nigel farage. The brexit Party Leaders saying this. 0k, we heard that. That was the speech in southampton. Youve done absolutely directly as well, as you know. What i want rita to do now, just explain how badly they have done as well. It has been a night of some National Humiliation for the conservative party and ive assembled here a collection of our roast results tonight and just look at the names on the screen. They are typically conservative areas. Kensington and chelsea, guildford, cotswolds, all areas you would think i true blue. Have gone either liberal democrats or brexit party. Lets take a look at one or two of the details. Elmbridge in the southeast region, this was conservative for the past three euro elections. That means they came top of the pole. Look at they came top of the pole. Look at the change in the share of the vote. The conservatives down 31 . That must really hurt. Lets take a look at one another. This is where the brexit party came top of the pole again. Conservative for the past three European Elections. We will look at the change in the vote chair. Down by 29 . Some really big falls. Some planets, if i can use that word. I know tobias was asking about born with earlier. That being your own patch. Born with, the conservative share went down 21 . Not as bad as here but still pretty bad. Let me show you what this means for the conservatives in terms of both share and where they come. 9 vote share. They come fifth after the green party. There is this extraordinary fact that the conservatives have failed to come top of the pole in any single local Authority Area in the country. If you look at the map as it is here, you look at the map as it is here, you see a great deal of brexit turquoise blue. Ucs see snp in scotland, patches of red, and let me just to show you how it looked into thousand 14. There was a lot of ukip purple but have their amount of conservative blue. That is com pletely conservative blue. That is completely gone. There is no conservative blue on the map at all. We said at the start, if the political map or landscape is going to change, yes, what i think its changed. It has, but the question is, wasnt who do you want to number ten . Or is, wasnt who do you want to number ten . 0rdo you is, wasnt who do you want to number ten . Or do you want to running our economy . Who do you want representing you in government . It was what do you think of the eu . Clearly it was quite binary and went one way or another. And of course the brexit party did well as did the remaining parties as well but this quote you put up from nigel farage, this is the first party and so forth, its also the first party that i know its actually done so well without having a manifesto. I looked on the website, there is no policy whatsoever. That is a wake up call as to how we campaign. We sought in the united states. You work on peoples fear and anger. You dont say what you are positively four. And its a concern i have somebody who stepped into the democratic process. How do you communicate and provide that scrutiny that you need . We evolve again, looking to a new leader, to make sure we scrutinise the absolute values, the benefits and otherwise of lurching towards and no deal. Values, the benefits and otherwise of lurching towards and no deatm depends who you choose. of lurching towards and no deatm depends who you choose. I dont want to do these wolfwhistle noises to see a sludge one way without understanding exactly what will happen. We are missing out because of the fast and furious nature of news and the simple way can tap into peoples frustrations. We absolutely understand that. The government is being punished because we didnt land brexit. John, where you are. I thought he was going to say the answer is not to produce a manifesto at all. I think you are right. This isnt a general election. We should be because this about presuming these results will be replicated in these results will be replicated in the general Election Campaign because in a general Election Campaign, other issues will quite rightly come to the fore the cuts to schools. Weve got record levels of waiting lists and crises. The nhs is in of waiting lists and crises. The nhs isina of waiting lists and crises. The nhs is in a real mess. You are short of 40,000 nurses in the nhs. Your a es are in crisis, that is the reality of the tories. More doctors, more nurses, less managers. You are cutting Public Health services, cutting Public Health services, cutting the infrastructure budget, cutting the infrastructure budget, cutting training. 200,000 nurses have left the nhs since 2010. This is the reality of the tories and the issue that were debated. The general election will not be this binary choice. It will be debated. We might be heading to a situation general election is the labour party trying to have another referendum. Election is the labour party trying to have another referendumm election is the labour party trying to have another referendum. It could be an election called precisely for that reason. Thats what theresa may tried to do. This may be where you are both heading. There have been people for a long time speculating on the last 3 six months saying, look, our politics, if you look how divided, we are heading towards a situation where there will be a choice between revoking and stopping brexit happening or leaving without a deal. If youre looking for evidence, tonights results are not allowed. We are running out of time. A final word . You can ask a question about independence, like whenjohn curtice was on. When you look at the results tonight, what we were saying to people was we want to begin that conversation and we had to learn from the experiences of brexit and every thing thats happened in the uk over the course of the last three yea rs, uk over the course of the last three years, it has to be a respectful debate. It has to be about vision and values in the kind of country we want. But there is a very real risk because of no deal taking place. We wa nt to because of no deal taking place. We want to deliver a strong economy, a fairer scotland and its becoming increasingly clear to the people of scotla nd increasingly clear to the people of scotland that independence is the route map for that. Another ongoing debate. John, a final word on where we are and what these elections have produced . I want to add to the conversation about what does this mean for the future general election . Its quite right, people would not have voted today in this way if there had been a general election. That said, the opinion polls showed during the course the campaign arise in support of brexit. Albeit in the 15 campaign arise in support of brexit. Albeit in the 15 20 campaign arise in support of brexit. Albeit in the 15 20 level. They have also by the way registered an increase in support and the liberal democrats support tens, according to the polls, to be similar. We cant assume they would do as badly but at the moment at least, Westminster Voting intentions of both of them below 30 . What is true is that these kind of advances in Westminster Voting intentions, during the Election Campaign surges, they usually disappear by the time we get to the autumn. However, is this a European Parliament election the people are going to forget quite as easily as previous ones. The central issue which has dominated how people have decided to vote in this election looks as though it is going to continue to be the central issue of our politics at westminster. And what we are now seeing is a challenge for the first time to the two largest parties, not from one end of the spectrum, such as the liberal democrats on the other end of the spectrum, such as ukip and the brexit party but from both ends at the same time. Weve not seen that before so i would suggest that actually, yes, the conservatives and labour would not have done as badly as they did tonight that there was a severe warning to them that their traditional dominance of british politics cant be taken for granted if brexit continues to be a major issue in british politics and they cannot come up with positions and a resolution that satisfies their supporters. John, thanks very much again. My turn to say thanks for eve ryo ne again. My turn to say thanks for everyone in the studio. Rita, thank you very much. To our friends who came in and braved the early hours. And to all the team working behind the scenes. A quick look at the scorecards. There we are. The percentage showing, 32 to the brexit party, 20 to the lib dems, 14 to the labour party. And on we go, the conservatives on 9 and 3 for change uk and then ukip. Our collea g u es change uk and then ukip. Our colleagues on bbc world is continuing continuing the coverage but for now, thank you very much for watching and its goodbye from us. Welcome to brussels and welcome to one of the two homes of the European Parliament. This is bbc world news parliamentary elections special. Across the last five, six hours, taking you to all of the developed once on the 28 Member States. This is about the dip logical dynamics of scene cloud. Lets get a projection of the new parliament will look like. This is based on votes counted. 0f parliament will look like. This is based on votes counted. Of course, as time goes by, more and more results are coming in. The ep p is the list single block of what it has gotten smaller. That is a centre right block that contains a range of centre right parties for a Civic Platform in poland to the party of Angela Merkel. Lingy have socialists and democrats, still the guest second biggest block but it has gotten smaller. Following current projections, those two groups are still dominant but they will not have the majority they have had for the last five years. That has made their lives easier. Translation todays Election Results, the ones that we have so far, are telling us that the middle, the Democratic Centre that is willing to compromise is weakened through this election and that it is even more necessary that the forces who believe in europe and want to bring europe to a great future, to have ambition for europe, those forces have to Work Together. Another big story is turn out and that has made eu officials very happy. They wanted to see this go back up after turnout had dropped. It has gone through the 50 mark. Many people realised that something threatened, something that we hold dear, the rule of law and freedom of press, equality in our Member States and that we have a long to do list to fight Climate Change and get in charge of technology, to create an Inclusive Society where everyone feels included. This is what we should do and this is what we should fight for, this is part of the big turn out. That was eu commissioner margretta vestager speaking to me earlier. We also spoke to the german mep ska keller, whos co president of the green bloc in the European Parliament. And thats because another main trend tonight has been a Green Party Surge across europe. Here she is. We are very thankful for the trust that the voters all over europe have put into the green party and, of course, with us this is now a big task and a big responsibility to put our demands into practice when it comes to climate protection and also when it comes to making sure that the European Union becomes a social union. In the uk early analysis suggests that the brexit party has won the vote. Heres its chairman. The party that is just six weeks old, it looks like we will win a National Election, something that has probably never been achieved before in a developed country and thatis before in a developed country and that is because we have provided what a significant percentage of the population want. But it wasnt just the brexit party that did well. The liberal democrats are projected to have come second. Guy verhofstadt tweets amazing result for the libdems. I look forward to welcoming a big delegation of pro european lib dem meps to the European Parliament. Together we will fight for a better europe one of the things that the liberal democrats and the brexit party have in common is that they have clear exit policy and they made ground against the two main parties of uk politics, the labour party and the Ruling Conservative Party. Labour leader has released a and in that statement he says that these elections became a proxy for a second referendum on brexit. It will have to go back to the people, whether through a general election ora whether through a general election or a public vote. Thats not quiteJeremy Corbyn asking for a second referendum. And many times we thought he would move toward saying it although the find weasel words within there. It is clear he does not want one. He has been fighting against his own party but what we have heard from many labourmps, but what we have heard from many labour mps, members of the British Parliament tonight, is that this result shows because we are not clear and we are not the party of remain, we have lost to the liberal democrats. Dramatic results, particularly in london where they lost. He will be under tremendous pressure now. You lost. He will be under tremendous pressure now. You call them weasel words but he says that look we should not justify words but he says that look we should notjustify our words but he says that look we should not justify our politics by brexit. We cater for people who voted on either side but that tactic did not seem to work. Weasel words as my reference to whether he says we will not have another referendum. Every time he asks it is like nailing jelly to a wall. But you are right. The labour party, the thing we have at the moment is our two main parties are divided internally about this issue and that has allowed what has happened and i think we will see on the conservative side a huge pressure for no deal and a dramatic exit and on the labour side, a party for remain to try and get those votes back from the lib dems. But is still farfrom back from the lib dems. But is still far from guaranteed. We back from the lib dems. But is still farfrom guaranteed. We arejoined now by rita, and eu Affairs Correspondent for a National Daily newspaper in portugal. Good evening. Have you been enjoying yourself . Where have you been this evening . have been here since early afternoon so it has been an all nighter here at the European Parliament. Before we continue talking any further, can we continue talking any further, can we bring up the portugal results so we bring up the portugal results so we can discuss them . Here is a portuguese progression. The socialists come out on top with ten and the social democrats with six. Is turn for a share of the block, can you talk us through this . What do you pick out as being significant . It was not a surprise, the result. The governing socialist party has been doing well in polls and was expected to get a good share of the vote. Perhaps a little bit surprising that the centre right and the only right wing party did not manage to hold their last vote so they went, they did not quite fulfil their expectations. And a newcomer to the European Parliament is an mp elected by the new party of people, animal nature, a little bit of that green wave being felt in portugal. One of the portuguese curiosities is that while some countries have seen significant political upheaval, that does not seem to have arrived in portugal. Portugal has been an outlier in this election because the mainstream parties have been holding the fort so there is no new parties that have been breaking through so its a very stable vote, i would say. Also we had the narrative in the selection of the big turnout in portugal, clearly did not happen. People say the weather was too nice and people went to the beach instead but sadly it is not a thing to be proud of. Surely the weather doesnt stop you from voting . We could argue about that. But i think. No Political Party in portugal will be pleased with that factor. But it also means that they will need to gear up and rethink theircampaign will need to gear up and rethink their campaign for the general election that is coming up in october. And i wonder what lessons there are from portugal and spain, both of which see social democratic parties, socialist parties, maintain their vote or increasing their vote whereas elsewhere we see social democratic parties, particularly the sdp in germany, struggling. democratic parties, particularly the sdp in germany, struggling. Ithink they are different cases. In portugal, the socialist party was successful in the transition from austerity. The recovery was managed and the people were generally satisfied with the status quo. That is probably why they did not turn out in force in spain we had a change of government and National Parliament elections. It is logical that a few weeks later the socialist party would also do well. In this case, however, the difficult transition work was done by the Popular Party, and they were the big losers so it is an asthma trickster edition. Political stability in portugal. I dont think thats how i would describe the uk at the moment. For those of you switching on at the moment, let us show you what the bbc is projecting for the results in the uk. Remember, the uk were not meant to be taking part the brexit did not happen so it had to. The brexit party has only been around for a few weeks and it won by some distance, projected to pick up 29 seats. Liberal democrats surprising even themselves with 16 seats, the labour party almost called by the greens and the greens are stuck between the official opposition and the party which is in power, the conservatives who lost 15 seats. At the moment they are only projected to pick up what row. Translate those seeds into voter share and you really understand why people are calling this a political earthquake the brexit party over 30 and the lib dems close to 20. Most astonishing of all, when you put together the two mainstays of uk politics for the last 100 years or more, they currently total 23 in a National Election. That, im pretty sure, has never happened and is another piece of evidence that brexit is reshaping uk politics in ways that none of us ever imagined a three years ago. Let me show you whatjeremy hunt has been saying, tweeting about the outcome. Lets bring in john curtice i , a ,a leading , a leading pollster who always guides us in evenings like this. You may think that it may be a bit late to get that message across. It seems like many people just turned to nigel farage for brexit certainty. Short. The explanation is straightforward. You need to make sure that mac remember that in the 2017 general election, the conservative party scooped up a lot of the support that had previously gone to Nigel Farages old party, ukip, and that was the party responsible for persuading the uk to have a referendum in the first place. They scooped up that support, it did so because essentially these voters thought that by voting conservative that was the best way of ensuring that brexit happened. Now that it has failed to happen on the due deadline of march 29, those voters have now gone running back to Nigel Farages new party, the brexit party, essentially expressing their dislike of the fact that we have not exited, not least because we know from polling evidence that at least one half may be as many as two thirds of those who voted leave just think we should just be leaving without a deal if we cannot reach an agreement. The dissatisfaction with the European Union and the house of commons and they just the European Union and the house of commons and theyjust want to get out. That was the message nigel farage was presenting and in doing so he what the support ofjust under one third of those who voted. Frankly it is almost as the inevitable consequence of the government s failure to deliver on its unique selling proposition, to deliver brexit. So john, i have interviewed the brexit party this evening in which they told me this isa evening in which they told me this is a clear mandate for brexit to happen even if it is a no deal. I have done two interviews with lib dems who told me that this result is a clear mandate for a second referendum and for the uk to have another vote on whether it would like to remain. Who is right . Neither. If we take the criterion that you need to demonstrate the support of 50 of the electorate, or of those voting, neither side comes even close to meeting the criteria that lets go through it. There are two parties who were campaigning in favour of leaving without a deal and we know from polling evidence they we re we know from polling evidence they were overwhelming getting support from leave. What is the brexit party and the other is ukip. Between them, 35 of the vote. A number of parties campaigned in favour of the idea of a second referendum. 0f campaigned in favour of the idea of a second referendum. Of which three it is also perfectly clear were getting their support virtually holy amongst remain voters. Those other liberal democrats with 20 , the greens on 12 and change uk on 3 . Total, 35 . The way in which to understand and read these elections is that essentially what they have done is confirm the evidence that first of all this country is basically evenly divided on the merits of exit and how we should be leaving, but secondly it is also polarised because in this election voters have either gone for parties of leave without a deal or having a second referendum. They have fled from the parties that were presenting some type of compromise that is the conservatives and labour. They have gone to the extremes but that reflects the fact that as a country we are polarised. The truth is in the message to the eu to take away is that it will be very difficult for the uk to resolve its brexit impasse because it is very evenly divided and i think what it will now be clear as well is that the two largest parties themselves are now going to be much more clearly divided. They have so far been presenting compromises, albeit different ones. I think there will clearly be pressure inside labour to be less ambiguous and in favour of a second referendum because it seems to have lost many voters to the greens and the liberal democrats because of its dance. Equally, the conservative party now feels clearly it has to deliver brexit, it has to deliver it soon because otherwise, as you say and jeremy hunt pointed out, the party could be headed for a serious electoral problem. The question is will win the battle . Can the conservative party find a way of getting brexit through the house of commons or candy labour party and the other parties in favour of a second referendum find a way of getting a second referendum through the house of commons . Neither side can be confident of success. Created thank you very much. It people are up late, in brussels or strasberg, people within the European Unions institutions, iceberg suspect none of them will have been calmed at all by sir johns analysis. The uk some distance from resolving whether to do brexit or how to do brexit. The conservatives replacing theresa may with a new leader who in turn will be the new Prime Minister. If it was Nigel Farages night in the uk, in italy, it was the night of Matteo Salvini. The league party he spearheads, he says he will form a coalition with other far right people in europe. Translation it is not only us. Marine le pen is the first party in france, nigel farage is the first party in britain. It is the sign of a europe that is changing, a europe tired of the powers of elites, finance, multinationals and from tomorrow, we will have to double our efforts. Matteo salvini mentions nigel farage a lot. I walked alongside him for 30 seconds or so last weekend and he made an unprompted reference to nigel farage. He would like the brexit party to come in that grouping. He wanted to be as big as possible. But also, his messages, we are on the move and on the move across europe. A slightly distorted narrative if you look at the results across europe because we saw the populist do well in the number of countries and far less well than we expected in some others. A very mixed picture how they performed. Overall, there had been a prediction they would make up third of this parliament. It looks more like they will be something around a quarter. He is forming a group, the Salvini Alliance as its become known already but if you look, he will have the same number of groups. In some countries, the surge is there but in others there isnt. The most dramatic. Freedom party in the netherlands, had by geert wilders, wiped out. We are seeing a mixed pickjoe. Wiped out. We are seeing a mixed pick joe. Is it connected to personality, this mixed picture, when you have a personality like Matteo Salvini, lesser personalities, it doesnt work . Personality is a big factor. Populist parties, they depend on charismatic leaders. If that doesnt exist, they fall down quite quickly. I think ultimately, it is still National Elections, you have a green wave through europe but you dont have the populist wave through europe. It depends on the condition from country to country. One could say that in the south, they been doing generally better. In the north, very disappointing compared to most of their protections. Projects and is. However Matteo Salvini brings the coalition together it will exist, and to what degree can he disrupt the work of the European Union and particularly the European Union and particularly the work of the European Parliament given the numbers we can assume he will have . We still see the pro European Forces have a large majority. If you put all those numbers together, the liberals, the greens with those two main parties which now no longer run business. It used to be very simple. The centre left, nice and simple. They would form a nice club, and business went smoothly. Its going to be more disruptive and a lot noisier. Its going to resemble more the dish house of commons with a lot of noise and people shouting at each other was european politics is much more civilised. Can they really make a difference . It would offend how they can all come together which is unlikely for the reasons explained. They are going to have a bigger task. It plays into a broader thing. Some of these right wing nationalist parties want increased national sovereignty. Salvini says we should be able to decide our budget and immigration, we dont want brussels dictating. Some green parties are saying, we would like more localised economies, the way we produce food to be exposed to the Single Market because it is not environmentally sound. People coming from different parts of the spectrum but making a similar point which is, we need more country similar point which is, we need more cou ntry level similar point which is, we need more country level control. That is going to bea country level control. That is going to be a live issue . Then you come to the budgetary policies, its clear what he says, what he wants, total freedom, its something that his cou nterpa rts freedom, its something that his counterparts in the north hate more than anything. There are very few issues except where these parties are issues except where these parties a re really issues except where these parties are really united and the key thing is, how big are they going to be. I think probably in the end, instead of three factions, they will have to and they will still not be able to really influence the business of the parliament in a significant way. Just as we were talking, beatriz, still going strong . Yes. Lets get projections on how things are going in spain. People could be forgiven for having election fatigue there. There have been a number of general elections. The socialists were the biggest. Projected to be the Biggest Party again. Lets have a look at the share. As we look at the shower, how would you analyse whats happened. What happened during the general election, we had the snp. Much stronger than i suspected. Then we have the Popular Party which is not quite as much representation compared to the previous representation here and the rise of the liberals. We have seen other places in europe, and then also, podemos has lost some seats. We have the rise of the far right but they got much less representation than they suspected. At also bring out they suspected. At also bring out the turnout in spain. Another huge jump, ona the turnout in spain. Another huge jump, on a par of what we saw in poland. Before everyone gets carried away, this is in part because they we re away, this is in part because they were also regional and local elections. Indeed. We had regional and local elections and that had a major impact on the fact that people went and voted for the European Elections as well. Lets talk about the catalan dimension. A man living in exile in brussels, carles puigdemont, because of those efforts to get catalonia independence. Out of these candidates perform . He got elected. They got two seats of the European Parliament so they did better in the previous elections when they only had one person on the left party that is also independent, they got three seats so again, they improved their representation by one person an interesting thing is, the two elected meps on the side of the liberals, they are both living in exile so its going to be hard to see what happens because they have to go to speen spain to be officially elected meps but if they will be detained and in the case of the other three, the lead candidate is actually in prison. In reality, will be see either of them in the European Parliament . It sounds like there are some practical obstacles. It will be hard because weve been looking at the european legislation and its entirely up to the National Authorities to decide on this and weve seen already that in the case of the Spanish Parliament, some of them are already elected. The reaction was to suspend so they can now take over their seats so it will be the same here but were going to see a lot of fight because they will use these as leveraged against the Spanish Government so it wont be easy. Its interesting, the spain example. I saw some analysis over the years, the further away from a general election that the European Parliamentary elections happen, the worse it is for the party in power. The socialists, youve only won an election just weeks the socialists, youve only won an electionjust weeks ago. The socialists, youve only won an election just weeks ago. You still should be in good shape that its two or three orfour should be in good shape that its two or three or four years, as weve seen with greece, it is. These we re seen with greece, it is. These were test elections for the voting government, how popular they still are. That is a good point. What is interesting in these elections, its gone beyond that. Its much more transnational, more european but it still has these aspects, of course. Its also striking that vox got 10 of the vote in the general election and so shortly afterward, dropped significantly down to 6 so that mixed picture weve been talking about, how explain that . How do we explain what happened to vox . about, how explain that . How do we explain what happened to vox . I have no idea because it wasjust a explain what happened to vox . I have no idea because it was just a few weeks ago that they had a major input into the election but even in that case, the polls were giving them 40 seats in the Spanish Parliament and ended up only having 24 so sometimes we are seeing an overrepresentation of the far right in the polls and we going to the elections, people dont vote so much for them but its interesting that this is happening in spain. Once people were voting, we dont have so much representation which is a good ring anyway. Talking on the screen, as you can see, two of those five parties will go into the snd centre left block. A number of what jackie is calling transnational policies. New labour laws that are stripped across the eu. As the spanish electorate open to that . Does it mind if more instructions, more guidance is coming from brussels . think so. The spanish electorate is either pro european, we are open to that and that is reflected in the Election Results. The spanish representative in the snd is now one of the leading parties in the social democrats so i think thats really important and somehow, its become a reference of the european level because hes been one of the first socialists to do better in the election compared to europe which was going down. I think in that sense, they can take the leadership and in general, weve seen a lot of these changes in spain as well. We had one of the most progressive in terms of fighting gender violence. One of the first European Companies in adopting same sex marriage. We are quite progressive even if we dont have an image for europe. Whether you are watching on the bbc news channel or bbc one, or on line, here we have the projections from the European Union on how the new parliament is going to look. As weve been discussing, the key dynamic that is shifted is the light blue block, the epb, the centre right block, the red block, centre right block, the red block, centre left, both are still the top two but they contracted which means are going to have to work with others more regularly. European Peoples Party predicted to get 179, significant drop. Socialists, a significant drop. Two groupings a lot of people will be looking closely at, alde on 107, the greens, 70, they will have conversations with the socialists and the epp as to what to do. Looking at the smaller groupings, important to understand all the dynamics in the European Parliament stopping the ecr, a group created by David Cameron when he was leader of the conservatives in the uk, lots of questionmarks on that group, not least because the conservatives in the uk have had such a difficult time. The european united left down to 38, parties like podemos in spain, dylan her in germany and suurez, not had a good time in greece, because Alexis Tsipras in grace has called a snap election. Hi, ben, hold fire. Let mejust show eve ryo ne hi, ben, hold fire. Let mejust show everyone watching the share of the vote as well. This is relevant to the conversation im about to have with any. The European Peoples Party on 22 , the socialists on 20 . Those are the two blocs that will dominate but not quite as they once did. The reason where paying attention to the yellow liberal bloc is that Emmanuel Macron is bringing his meps into it, five years ago homage wasnt around stopping we cant talk about a green green revolution but significant progress from green party is in a number of different states. Ben hadad, director of the future initiative at the Atlantic Council in washington, dc. You have worked with Emmanuel Macrons homage party, mr macron has talked about a renaissance in europe, you think the way the vote went in france adds up to that . Tonight is clearly a victory for the National Front. Its not the first time that Marine Le Pens movement tops the European Election. It happened last time, she had a slightly lower score than last time. Its also a strong showing for Emmanuel Macron, who is, you know, the Ruling Party Leader in france stopping these elections are normally a punishment for the party in power. The most tragic aspect is it confirms the analysis in france that the traditional right left divide has been replaced by a division shaped by european issues tween the far right National Front and the progressive limb liberals of homage stop either to incumbent parties that have governed france forfor the parties that have governed france for for the better part of the past century, the socialists and republicans, struggled to get 50 combined, a theres a collapse of traditional parties in france and thats been confirmed tonight with the poor showing of the centre right republicans, who were polling around 13 and only got 8 of the vote. ta ke 13 and only got 8 of the vote. take your point that this could have been a critical vote for Emmanuel Macron, but if youre proposing a european renaissance, you need more than that, you need strong backing from your own voters in your own country and you need allies elsewhere in the eu who want to pursue integration at the same speed as macron. Im not saying that. This will be an uphill challenge for macron in the next few years. He was elected to yea rs next few years. He was elected to years ago with a strong pro eu platform. You had his supporters waving european flags at rallies, and he came in with a couple of big speeches advocating for eurozone integration, more robust european defence, making a case for european sovereignty and he struggled to find partners in europe. Firstly, in germany, obviously where chancellor merkel wasnt as ambitious with her reform agenda as he was on a european level, but also hes alienated various European Partners from eastern europe, obviously to italy, where you have populist in power, so its going to be a challenge, especially as macrons partner, alde, the centrist party in the European Parliament, is only the third party in the European Parliament. The next three days will be crew critical to know what kind of alliances he sets in motion when it comes to appointing the key positions of the European Union, the European Commission and Eu Council President s. It will be difficult for him to push his agenda on the european stage stop you are are in washington, evidently the relationship between donald trump and the eu hasnt been particularly smooth. Donald tusk and Angela Merkel have alluded to the fact that the eu cant rely on america as it has done before. Looking at this from the american perspective, it is hard to say europe has one kind of politics anymore given the fragmentation we have seen this evening. Absolutely, weve seen lots of friends. Some have been confirmed, the rise of populist movements. Maybe not as spectacular as some of the polls suggested but clearly its a trend weve seen in europe over the last new years. More importantly, as you noted, the political environment is scattered few years stopping the epp and the socialists who used to share power, sharing key positions in the council and the commission, now cannot form that kind of majority. Seeing this from washington, theres going to be a lot of questions about the eus ability to pass an agenda, to be governed and to do more than just meddle through in the next few yea rs, meddle through in the next few years, especially when you have so many challenging, the National Environment being one of them, having a resident in the us calling the eu afobe and imposing tariffs on the eu afobe and imposing tariffs on the eu, clearly necessitates a more autonomous and robust eu at this time a ben haddad a foe. Autonomous and robust eu at this time a ben haddad a foe. Ben haddad. You will keep hearing references to how well the greens have done. Let me put some numbers behind those kinds of phrases. This is in germany, we saw evidence of this in the polling in the last couple of weeks that the greens could do well and theyve delivered on that polling, doubling their vote on that polling, doubling their vote on where they were five years ago but its not just on where they were five years ago but its notjust about germany. This is what happened in ireland, the green Party Jumping this is what happened in ireland, the green partyjumping from below 596 the green partyjumping from below 5 to 15 . Unsurprisingly, the greens are getting excited, Caroline Lucas is the most high profile Green Party Politician in the uk and shes been tweeting about what shes seen playing out in the European Parliament. She has said lets talk with beatrice, stephane and jackie. They clearly had a very good evening, but they have upped their share of the vote by 3 . Does that warrant green wave is a description . It does in the countries where the result has been dramatic, and you have cited some of those numbers. In germany but perhaps not across the eu . They were up perhaps not across the eu . They were up significantly in france and a number of countries are notjust the ones you mentioned. We have an east west divide here, theyve done well in western europe, they dont do well in eastern europe. We cant say theres been a surge across the plain, but where they are disrupting the landscape, they re plain, but where they are disrupting the landscape, theyre making a big difference to domestic politics in a number of countries so maybe its a series of concentric waves, not one enormous surge. A green concentric wave, theres a thought for the middle of the night wave, theres a thought for the middle of the night i think their big handicap is there not in government anywhere. Clearly the European Council and the council is equally important in some respects more important than the European Parliament. As long as they dont break through that glass roof. Just to explain that point, the European Council represents the leaders from the eu Member States and the green party isnt represented. Not at all. That is a be kind for them. Represented. Not at all. That is a be kind forthem. But represented. Not at all. That is a be kind for them. But they are leaders in the sense of spiritual leaders in the sense of spiritual leaders i would say. Clearly this is a hugely important topic. You will see many mainstream parties who are a bit green because they see the necessity. Germany is getting out of coal and i think this is the reaction to this wave happening. Theres another graph i saw earlier which analysed how young voters in germany went, and the green party was like this and all of the other parties were much smaller. Your point would be that they will influence the policies of all the mainstream parties . Absolutely. This is not going to go away. Climate change unfortunately is not going to go away and this is becoming more and more important, ithink month after month after month, and the rise of the european agenda. The smart thing for the next commission is to make this a centrepiece of that programme. This could be the driver that can actually make a lot of other reforms in other areas possible, that by themselves they dont have sufficient momentum behind them. I want to explain to people watching who dont watch brussels closely, when you say the European Commission can make this the centre of its agenda, who set that, the new president of the commission . Absolutely, and will define his or her priorities for the next five years and come up with a leitmotif, this is the kind of commission we want to be. Jean claude juncker, when he commission we want to be. Jean claudejuncker, when he became Commission President , described this as the last chance saloon for reconnecting with voters stopping the turnout today said they did that, he made the economy central, after the economic crisis. The executive arm, the commission, will now, once it has a new president , set out its agenda but of course its very much driven by the leaders sitting around the table, the 28 leaders, the Prime Minister, and if there isnt agreement there, they will be a question to which mainstream parties say ok, the lesson from these elections is we need to do more. They are going to try to out green each other. How do green politics sit into spain . We dont have as large representation but i agree theres a problem in europe, we dont have big representation in portugal, spain, greece and italy. What i think is important is a generational divide here, and that going to come up because these people are going to grow up and keep voting for these parties. This is going to stay there because the powers of the. Climate change will get worse. I think it might not be important now, but i believe that if eventually the parliament agrees on a wider coalition going together, offering the socialists, liberals and greens offers, they will shape the agenda but in the future we will see more and more green Political Parties getting into power and rising to the European Council. If these were more normal times in european politics, the fact the greens have gone forth and well past 10 could be the story in itself, but as you can see on the front pages, the greens arent getting a look in because of what has happened with the projected result in the uk. The daily express they have been consistently for nigel farage and for brexit for a number of years so no surprise to see the Brexit Party Leader on the front page. The Daily Telegraph, it a lwa ys front page. The Daily Telegraph, it always follows the conservative party particularly closely, and its front page is look at the bullet points, brexit party surges across the country, worst ever result for conservatives, lib dems gain as britain is polarised and that word polarised is in line with what sirjohn curtice, the uk top pollster, was telling us a few minutes ago. Next, the baby independent the i. Playing it relatively straight. This is the times, a paper we would who would prefer brexit not to happen. Naomi grimley has been helping me from the bbc newsroom in london over the last few hours. Theres no doubting this is dire form both big parties, but what do they do about it . Indeed. This result will be particularly interesting when it comes to the conservative leadership election, which of course is happening because of theresa mays resignation last week. Now, if you look at what happened to the conservative party, theres been this huge collapse, the worst result in their history since 1834, if you want the exact date, in fa ct, 1834, if you want the exact date, in fact, that was when they were first founded, so its their worst result ever. Thats why i think we will see more of the leadership candidates tomorrow arguing that the party needs to take a much tougher line when it comes to brexit. Let me read you a line from borisjohnsons opinion piece in the Daily Telegraph tomorrow. He says, if we go on like this, well be fired. He clearly feels the may premiership is costing the conservative party key votes at the conservative party key votes at the expense. Or rather because of the expense. Or rather because of the brexit party. Lets talk about the brexit party. Lets talk about the brexit party. Lets talk about the brexit party, naomi, when nigel farage was leader of ukip five years ago he won the European Parliamentary elections but wasnt able to turn that into significant representation in westminster. Whats the analysis around whether mr faraj with the brexit party cannot just influence but mr faraj with the brexit party cannotjust influence but actually see some power within the commons . Well, as you point out, European Elections are very different from westminster elections because they are fought on a different election system. First past the post, which is how westminster elections are fought, make it much harderfor the smaller parties to break through. However, the performance tonight does suggest something has shifted in british politics. They have won all the eu seats are one of those declared so far. Of course that other one went to the liberal democrats in london. So if they correctly fielded candidates at a westminster election, they might not see the same kind of results, but they would nevertheless no doubt make some headway in getting representation in a uk parliament. Of course, the opposition parties will be hoping that they can keep their preeminence in a westminster election because otherwise they clearly would be in deep, deep trouble of historic proportions. Judging by what sojohn curtice was telling me a while ago, many lib dem voters labour voters went to lib dems to make their voice heard. Are they listening . Jeremy corbyn tweeted a statement a couple of hours ago saying his party would reflect on those results. He also reiterated that he believes the brexit decision has to go back to the people, though clearly he wont actually say he believes that should be in the form of a second referendum. He says either an election or a second referendum the difficulty for labour is this, yes, they have haemorrhaged votes to the liberal democrats in the south of england, but if you look at some of the northern results, its a different picture. Theyve actually lost votes to the brexit party, and thats why some labour mps like lisa nandy have been tweeting there is a different narrative there and the parties still needs to listen to those leave constituencies, like hers in wigan. Naomi, thank you very much indeed. Crucial moments for both the tories and the labour party. We will have to see what conclusions they draw from these disappointing Election Results. Where are we . We are coming up to 3 50 am in brussels. In the last six hours this extraordinary exercise in democracy has been delivering us results from across the eu, all of its 28 Member States. The strain put together some of the most significant outcomes weve seen. Were going to start with turnout. The story itself, notjust which way people voted but the fact that they voted in far greater numbers. Up almost 10 , and you can see how this translated into results in germany. The biggest single block of meps comes from germany, over 90 of them, thatis comes from germany, over 90 of them, that is connected to germanys population, the biggest of all eu Member States. And the greens grabbing the headlines, 20 , social democrats, they knew it was going to be bad but perhaps didnt hope it would be that bad. Germany has a lot of thinking to do if it is going to work its way back into a significant position in german politics. Next, lets look at greece. Were going to have a snap election in greece because of the figures i showed you. New democracy giving itself a 32 lead, and syriza didnt take long to react to these figures. Translation i will immediate lee asked the president to declare National Elections immediately, in the end, the greek people will be the only ones to make the final decision. In france we have two big personalities who turned it into a political deal, Marine Le Pen and president emanuel cron. Macron, it wont be considered a disaster by his supporters, Marine Le Pen came out on top in france, her ally, Matteo Salvini and his leg party came out since a league party came out since a league party came out since a league party came out on top in italy. And he spoke not long after those results we re spoke not long after those results were released. Translation comes let it is not only leg being first in italy, Marine Le Pen in france, nigel farage in britain, so italy, france, Great Britain. It is the sign ofa france, Great Britain. It is the sign of a europe that is changing, a europe tired of the powers of the elites, finance, multinationals and from tomorrow we will have to redouble our efforts. And theres no harm in looking at the uk results several times over just to harm in looking at the uk results several times overjust to be sure youve seen it, right . Because these results are the likes of which we have never seen before. The projection is the brexit party which has existed for a few weeks lead by nigel farage, 32 . Remember its policy is that uk has to do brexit by the end of october and if it is a no deal brexit so be it. The liberal democrats have surprised even themselves judging from the lib dems we have spoken to in the last few hours, 90 . The labor party on 14 , the greens above the Ruling Conservative Party on 9 , on 11 , above the conservative party on 9 . And the Scottish National party on 396, and the Scottish National party on 3 , plaid cymru on 2 , and sinn fein. Heres what nigel farage has to say. This time last time it was with ukip, this time with the brexit party. Never before has a party just six weeks brexit party. Never before has a partyjust six weeks old one a National Election. If britain does not leave the eu on the 31st of october, these results will be repeated at a general election he said. But there is no general election scheduled in the uk in the near future. One last time, election scheduled in the uk in the nearfuture. One last time, this is the European Union bosman projections of what the parliament is going to look like. There are lots of question marks around the enf, the block that Marine Le Pen and Matteo Salvini sit in, they want to create a new block. Questions around the efdd, which has uk and the uks Independence Party, but its reputation as presentation is down, the easier has question marks to down, the easier has question marks to ecf. But down, the easier has question marks to ecf. But on the left hand side of the equation, the dpp, centre right block is still the biggest smaller, the s d, the left and centre block still the second biggest, but then smaller with the greens and liberals up, meaning those four are going to have lots of conversations. Its been a long night, thank you so much indeed for your company. Lets just step night, thank you so much indeed for your company. Letsjust step back here and think about the broader question of european politics. Ive been travelling around europe for the last ten days, people keep telling me its just the last ten days, people keep telling me itsjust 28 the last ten days, people keep telling me its just 28 domestic elections which happen to add up to a parliament. That seemed to be the consensus. Now weve seen the results, now weve seen people reacting and perhaps ways we havent seen before, can we Start Talking about european politics in a way we havent done before . about european politics in a way we havent done before . I think the dividing line between european politics and National Politics is fading away, basically. This is becoming one big thing with multiple interfaces basically infant staying influencing each other very much. I think the main take away from this is fragmentation and volatility. The establishment that own this place for decades has gone out of business. Its going to be a lot more interesting and a clear difference in terms of politics but also perhaps more difficult. You dont think it is coming back . dont think it is coming back . dont think it is coming back . dont think its coming back. I think there are deeper changes here to do with the immediate scene and lack of collective identities with workers who used to work for union people and business people. People are now much more mobile, they are less obedient, much more sort of act give inframing less obedient, much more sort of act give in framing their own politics, so this is going to be the trend for the future. What about you . Id ink the future. What about you . Id ink the way the turnout was one of the highest in the past 20 years is also a reflection that the europeans have understood that there are issues we have to work out together. Migration, Climate Change, things that europeans now have in mind and i think they have gone to the polls and prove that a voting for new Political Parties that have a different agenda. I think the fact that we have a Fragmented Parliament might be good news because that would mean we would have different parties representing that would now have to Work Together. Perhaps we can create a new europe in which everyone is represented in a way. still fundamentally feel it 28 National Elections because when we look at the reasons behind what has happened in each country, there are clearly national factors that have played in in each case but i think you are right that there are connections between what happens in one country and how it translates. We have had 38journalists in 28 countries, all eyes in europe on many of the same issues. Something has changed. I am not sure its seismic yet, but we are on the move. Thank you to all of you for keeping me company. Its been a long night, a fascinating one. Stephanie, that is the end of this bbc news election welds muscle. Pressure under the European Parliament, they will have to work across various plaid cymru to work across various plaid cymru to get legislation through, its been a pivotal night. Election special. We will see you soon. Goodbye. Hello. It wouldnt be a Bank Holiday Weekend without some rain around, u nfortu nately, weekend without some rain around, unfortunately, those who need it most are actually seeing very little. Sussex was one of the counties that avoided most of this showers on sunday. By contrast, that had a lot of rain across parts of scotland, particularly highland and aberdeenshire, 30 millimetres, well over an inch aberdeenshire, 30 millimetres, well overan inch in aberdeenshire, 30 millimetres, well over an inch in just aberdeenshire, 30 millimetres, well over an inch injust 24 hours. This frontal system lingers as we going to Bank Holiday Monday across scotland. That is going to keep the rain going cheaply across the dental belt, southern scotland and parts of the far north of england and northern ireland. Elsewhere is the day of sunny spells and scattered showers. Showers are most frequent across north west and south west england, wales. A brief north westerly wind will push the rain into the midlands, some southern counties of england, but fewer showers for east anglia and south east england. More on the way of sunshine here so higher temperatures. 18 or 19 celsius. Mid to high teens for most. Sims i was going to the evening, they will tend to fade but some showery rain reforming across northern ireland, parts of wales, eastern scotland and elsewhere variable cloud and clear spells. It will be a cool night compared to the notes we have had to the Bank Holiday Weekend. Weve still got this little frontal system diving its way southwards, generating showers. The winds will be lighter but they are coming from the north and north west so the cool air weve been seeing across scotla nd air weve been seeing across scotland will start to dig its way a little bit further south west. On tuesday, quite you showers developing on central and eastern areas. The best chance for east anglia to see some distant rain does make decent rain will be from the showers. Further west, the best of the sunshine here, temperatures foremost in the mid teens, maybe 17 l dean 18 celsius. The wednesday will see this area of High Pressure building from the south west, that is going to kill off most of the sales across england and wales. It should be a dry and fine day, across the western side of scotland after a sunny start for much of the uk, the cloud will build. For much of england, wales and southern scotland it will be mainly dry. Temperatures typically again in the mid teens, 17 or 18 does this further south. To sum up the week ahead it is going to be cooler for a sum up the week ahead it is going to be coolerfor a time sum up the week ahead it is going to be cooler for a time but there will be cooler for a time but there will be some rain, but for those who need it most there may not be very much. Goodbye. Welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. Im duncan golestani. Our main story this hour centrist parties are the big losers in the European Elections, with the highest voter turnout in 20 years. Smaller parties make big gains. In germany, the greens become the second largest party, the far right comes fourth and the established parties do badly. Translation todays Election Results, the ones we have so far, are telling us that the middle, the Democratic Centre that is willing to compromise, is weakened through this election, in france, the far right National Rally led by Marine Le Pen came just ahead of the en marche party of president Emmanuel Macron

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