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all the sport, with katherine downs. that afternoon. good afternoon. ole gunnar solskjar is the interim manager at manchester united. will he be able to bring the clu b united. will he be able to bring the club back together and inspire those big—name players? more view at half—past. rushmore for you at half—past. thanks, katherine. and matt taylor has all the weather. and it could almost be the spring. almost, yes. it is york and nice to have sunshine after the cloud and rain. i will tell you where the showers are and is there any cold weather on the horizon? the details in the next half—hour. we look forward to it, always bringing sunshine into our lives! thanks, matt. also this hour: tech entrepeneur elon musk unveils the first tunnel built by his company to solve the congestion problem in los angeles. hello, everyone, this is afternoon live. i'm shaun ley. it is good to have you here this afternoon. jeremy corbyn has denied calling theresa may a ‘stupid woman‘ during prime minister‘s questions — in a misogyny row which is all the talk of westminster. after mrs may likened the labour leader‘s attempt to force a confidence vote in her earlier this week to a christmas pantomine, mr corbyn was shown on camera muttering. the conservative party chairman, brandon lewis, urged him to "apologise". orto or to clarify what he said. the labour leader‘s spokesman said he had mouthed "stupid people", referring generally to mps. let‘s cross now to our chief political correspondent, vicki young, who joins us now from westminster. good afternoon. this has rather overshadowed prime minister‘s questions. yes, it was coming to an end and absolute uproar the like of which not many people have ever seen and foot two reasons. the first was of course those alleged comments thatjeremy corbyn made which has spokespeople deny that he made. there were lots of points of order about that from conservative mps saying that he should apologise for it and saying that he should apologise for itand urging saying that he should apologise for it and urging the speaker to act. then it very quickly turned into a full—blown attack on the speaker, with some mps effectively accusing him of bias. the most important thing is to see the initial exchange, theresa may bringing up her comments, saying it was like a pantomime. then you can see what jeremy corbyn mutters at the end. i‘ve got some advice for the right honourable gentleman. look behind you. they‘re not impressed and neither is the country. now, after that on social media, lots of journalists now, after that on social media, lots ofjournalists and viewers who had been watching what they saw what mr corbyn said so it was going round on social media and you could see very quickly in the house of commons how mps started to look back at the footage. they were showing it to each other and there were lots of discussions about it and then eventually, a conservative mp got up to raise the issue. do you think it's appropriate language, can i ask my right honourable friend, to call people 'stupid women' in this chamber? shocking! can i say to my honourable friend that i think that everybody in this house, particularly in this 100th year, anniversary of women getting the vote, should be aiming to encourage women to come into this chamber and to stand in this chamber, and should therefore use appropriate language in this chamber when they‘re referring to female members. now, after those exchanges, there is a briefing that is given by downing street to journalists, but also by a labour party spokesman. he, of course, has been asked several times about this and his response this lunchtime has been, asked whether jeremy corbyn had called theresa may a stupid woman, he said the labour leader had said stupid people, and he was adamant that this was what he said. when the spokesman was told with leaders had looked at it and one has told the bbc they are pretty certain he said the word woman, the spokesman said, lip reading is open to doubt. he is adamant he did not say it. those are the accusations and denials against the labour party leader. and you heard the voices of so leader. and you heard the voices of so many leader. and you heard the voices of so many women leader. and you heard the voices of so many women mps who were very concerned about misogynistic behaviour in the house of commons. but very quickly, it turned into an attack onjohn bercow, the speaker. there was real tension between him and many in the conservative party and many in the conservative party and if you listen to this exchange, it was quite a moment where the leader of the commons herself got up to remind the speaker of words he had said to her. thank you, mr speaker. i would just like to ask, after your finding there that individuals who are found to have made unwelcome remarks should apologise, why it is that when an opposition member found that you had called me a stupid woman, you did not apologise in this chamber? no, no. no. i'll deal with the point. hear, hear, hear! i dealt with that matter months ago, in remarks that i made to the house of commons, to which the right honourable lady — in our various meetings since — has made no reference, and which requires from the chair today no elaboration whatsoever. mr speaker, with great respect to the chair, i have to say this — if it was one of my male colleagues on this side of the house that had used that expression against a woman on the front bench on the opposition, you, sir, would take action immediately. this is not acceptable. please would you deal with it, as you often do, mr speaker, in a fair way, but also from the point of view of women in this house who are fed up over decades of being abused by men? very happy... yes, i'm very happy to deal with it. the right honourable lady is absolutely right to say that if i witnessed an instance of the kind that hasjust been alleged, i would deprecate it unreservedly. so some pretty incendiary accusations being flung around, particularly from anna soubry, suggesting to the speaker that he is in fact biased by saying if it had been a conservative male mp who had made such comments about a labour female mp, the female —— the speaker would have acted. he says, i did not see the incident everyone is talking about. there was a moment when there we re about. there was a moment when there were lots of conservative mps and ministers crowding round the speaker‘s chair trying to show him the footage on their mobile phones, because it is all over the internet and social media. he refused to look at it there and then but says he will take a lot and then decide what to do. from westminster. our chief political correspondentjoining us now from the lobby. the women and equalities minister — victoria atkins. duet —— eu take the labour leader at his word? what is so unedifying is the leader of the position at a critical time in our nation‘s history has to explain whether he said stupid woman washed to bid people. frankly, neither is very nice and we should be able to have a workplace environment where that sort of language is not used. what is remarkable is mr corbyn was on notice that this would be raised as a point of order. for those not familiar with parliamentary procedure, it is common after a big event for members of parliament to raise a point of order. the prime minister was asked by paul scully, as you showed in your initial clip, as you showed in your initial clip, a question about mr corbyn‘s words, so a question about mr corbyn‘s words, so he was on notice that colleagues would raise points of order after pmqs and mr corbyn did not stay, he left the chamber. i think mr corbyn has to return to the chamber and explain what he said and why he said it. and that will be an answer to the allegation. i take from that you don‘t accept his explanation that he said stupid people. we will leave that aside. is it in your view onto via bleep different from david cameron dismissing a labour mp with the words, calm down, dear? this was directed at the prime minister from the front bench, the opposition front bench. i am afraid my reading of it and if mr corbyn wants a conversation with me about the words he did actually use, he can explain to me why it looks as though he is saying stupid woman, i think that is different and i think he needs to explain what he said. wonder about the intervention of the leader of the intervention of the leader of the house, andrea leadsom. it suggested he said stupid woman about her and she was keen to say, let‘s move on and not dwell on this and make a big thing of it. she seems to have seized a political opportunity, was that an opportunity to undermine the speaker‘s authority? i am not familiar with the close detail of what happened between the speaker and the leader. what i do know and the speaker said himself, there were a series of meetings and discussions about this and the fact the leader chose to raise this at this point underlines the point that many female members of parliament feel. which is, we have got to have a respectful environment, sorry, iam doing my male colleagues at a service! we want a respectful environment. of poor —— of course things can get heated in the chamber, but when it comes to the use of language, it is very important we do our best not to a p pa re ntly important we do our best not to apparently be very rude about somebody else as i am seeing and if mr corbyn wants to persuade me otherwise, he is welcome too. and we have to be careful. one of my greatest honours this year as minister for women greatest honours this year as ministerfor women has been going around the country trying to ask more women to stand for parliament. we need parliament to be more representative. we have a better chance of making frankly better laws if we have a diverse community of members of parliament. and this sort of language, i‘m afraid, does not help us in that role of trying to get more women into parliament. you come from a political family and i guess at quite a young age before when you are at school, you would have visited parliament. do you think the culture has yet to change enough? has there been a significant shift aside from this immediate controversy in how women are treated at westminster? as an example, november the 21st, we the centenary of women, of the act passing think women the right to vote. 330 of my colleagues, myself included, invited a woman to parliament to ask her to stand and it was fantastic. we had 330 women wondering around the place and this is how it should become as isaid on and this is how it should become as i said on the day. we have made huge jumps in recent years and i think evenin jumps in recent years and i think even in the last three years since the 2015 election, we have seen a real change in the way in which parliament looks, but more importantly, how it operates. but there is way more to do, i absolutely accept that. and frankly, we need to be focusing on these important issues, rather than mr corbyn confirming, not confirming his language. he needs to be very careful about his language on the front bench, that would be my friendly advice to him as minister for women. victoria, thank you for finding time to talk to is. the minister for women. downing street has rejected a suggestion by the home secretary, sajid javid, that the government is dropping its commitment that net immigration — the number of new arrivals minus the number of people who emigrate — should be below one hundred thousand a year. in an interview with the bbc, mrjavid refused, seven times, to say whether he was committed to the target. this afternoon, the government will set outs its immigration policy after brexit, making migrants‘ skills more important than where they come from. people from eu countries will no longer have he automatic right to work in the uk after brexit, as our home affairs correspondent, dominic casciani, explains. it‘s the issue that lay at the heart of so many votes to leave the eu. immigration. now, after more than a year of delays, and 100 days before brexit, the government is unveiling its radical reforms. and the proposals will affect almost every part of the british economy, as ministers pledge to put skills before freedom of movement. two thirds of staff in this london coffee shop chain are from the eu. the owner says the highly competitive hospitality trade depends on staff from abroad. baristas from poland, cooks from italy and everywhere in—between. it‘s really going to have a very bad effect on business, notjust mine, but all hospitality businesses, all sorts of industries across the uk. i can only see it‘s going to have a really bad and detrimental effect. you do not get the applications from english—born people that you would need to survive in this business. you need to have a pool of people coming in to be able to fill those places and continue to grow this industry. the home secretary, sajid javid, says from 2021 onwards, eu workers will be treated the same as those from the rest of the world. the future system is about making sure that immigration works in the best interests of the uk. we are absolutely not closing our doors simply making sure we have control over who through them. eu workers have started to dry up since the referendum in 2016, but the number of people arriving from the rest of the world has increased. to date‘s white paper does not mention the prime minister‘s target to cut net migration to the tens of thousands. as the home secretary will not answer a rather straightforward question, yes or no, is it the prime minister‘s intention that her government will still reduce immigration to the tens of thousands? yes. there will be no cap for skilled workers on sections like construction, which has helped to drive up immigration. there will be no cap on skilled workers for sectors like construction. nhs leaders warn the minimum salary test yet to be agreed could harm public services. high skilled in the nhs does not necessarily mean salaries over £30,000. so we have junior doctors, we have nurses, we have midwives, we have paramedics, who have starting salaries under £30,000. so our concern is whether we continue to have the supply of staff that we need. but brexit supporters say the economic concerns can be met, and the public want change. it will be great to see that we have control of our immigration policy again. that was one of the main things that people wanted from the leave vote in the referendum. these proposals represent the most fundamental shift to the uk immigration system for more than a0 years. but so many questions remain unanswered. whatjobs will we value most? how much are we prepared to pay to get the right people? and what‘s politically acceptable? dominic casciani, bbc news. our reality check correspondent chris morris is here. so, over two years on from the referendum, explain to us the uk‘s current immigration figures. at the moment, within the eu, there is still free movement of people so anybody who wants to can come here. the numbers are quite interesting. we saw a graph in that piece and we haveit we saw a graph in that piece and we have it here to look at it in more detail. the first climate we will see, this is the net migration of people from outside the eu. june 2018, 248,000 more non—eu citizens came to the eu in the year tojune than arrived. the second line, this is from within the eu, british close, and look what happened at the referendum in june 2016. close, and look what happened at the referendum injune 2016. the number of people coming from the eu has fallen sharply. yes, below where it was ten years ago. and significantly below, people coming from the rest of the world. and this is people coming into the uk? yes, the bottom line is in terms of completing a figure of net migration, that is british people leaving. 49,000 uk citizens, 49,000 more emigrated than uk citizens coming back. that gives a total in the year tojune, and net migration figure into the uk of 273,000. you can see from that about three quarters of those from outside the eu. so ending freedom of movement from the european union, especially if you look and if that blue line continues to go down, it will do very little to bring the net migration figure is down. the suggestion from that is that the referendum itself, in effect, but a sharp break on migration from the european union. you can argue the point is people have an absolute right to come here and we will take back control of those borders, but if you look at the numbers, migration from the eu is not the issue. to coin a phrase, they voted with their feet. that suggests this 100,000 net migration figure is a long way away. and in free movement from the eu will not do much. if thatis from the eu will not do much. if that is your ultimate goal, ending free movement from the eu will not do much on its own to solve that. those are the statistics and that gives context, what about what the government says it will do in terms of immigration reform, there is a spat over salary threshold, it is what somebody must be allowed to earn in theirjob to comment? there will be a consultation on this. it is not definite. there has been a big fight in cabinet. this is a salary threshold for skilled workers looking for five—year visas. for unskilled workers from the rest of the eu, it is far more difficult. look at the starting salaries, health care assistants in the nhs, in england, £17,460. a lot of those people do auxiliary nursing jobs so they are important people and you wa nt they are important people and you want them. dental nurses, just over £20,000 as a starting salary. the scientists in the nhs doing the tests, £28,000. you can argue they are skilled or unskilled, but these people would fall foul potentially of the new regulations, particularly the 30,000 salary threshold, that is confirmed. the health service in particular would be worried about the implications. yes, other sectors as well, construction, retail, hospitality. there will be exemptions across the board in some respects, it would imagine, if there are specific shortages in specific places. but i think we will see different parts of the economy lobbying furiously to say, we need the exemption, we need the people. the federation of small businesses has said today seven in ten small employers rely on mid—although skilled staff and they need those people from the eu. so it is a complex mix of taking back control of immigration and making sure the economy has the right people in it. chris norris, as ever, thank you very much, that is really helpful for the discussions we will have during this afternoon on that subject. we heard yesterday that the prime minister and her cabinet discussed "ramping—up" preparations for a no—deal brexit — today, the european commission has published details of the measures it will take. let‘s speak to our brussels reporter, adam fleming. you are back in the warm, it looked cold out there an hour ago. let‘s talk about what in essence this commission is doing. nothing changes for the rest of the european union so why did they need these preparations? well, this is the, nation of work that started earlier this year. we saw an outline of this published in november and the european commission is publishing 14 bits of new eu law that need to be put in place to keep things ticking over between the uk and the eu in key sectors. i will run through a couple of them. when it comes to transport, there is loads of flights between the uk and eu every day, they want to maintain that basic level so they will do legislation so british airlines can fly into and out of the eu. they cannot operate flights within the eu and that power will last for a year. when it comes to british truckers, they will still be able to bring goods from the uk into the eu for nine months if there is no brexit deal after march 2019, before they have to apply for some very limited and scarce permits. that gives them a grace period to adjust. when it comes to financial services, the eu has looked at the bids of the banking industry and financial services world that it needs to protect in a no deal scenario and has come up with a couple of narrowed things like the clearing of derivatives. it has said, we will use our procedures where we recognise the eu recognise the uk‘s financial services regulations as the same so that that trade can continue in some cases for a yearand trade can continue in some cases for a year and other cases two years. so they are looking at things whether eu feels it needs to protect its interests and has identified the sectors as those things. the last time this came up, i asked commission officials, why would you pass legislation that means derivatives or ok but not legislation to make sure everybody gets the medicine they need it? they said they have looked at the sectors and this was the bare minimum they could do and medicine is not in there but financial services, some financial services, they are. thank you very much for that. the european union has announced an urgent investigation after hackers accessed thousands of sensitive diplomatic conversations. eu officials say they have started a probe into the data breach and europe is on high alert for suspicious online activity in the run—up to key parliamentary elections in may next year. it‘s reported that hackers using similar techniques to the chinese military gained entry to european union communications. the eu would like those conversations to remain as private as possible, but thousands of these ca bles as possible, but thousands of these cables are in the public sphere. the new york times has published some of the choicest ones, including the diplomatic mission to moscow, talking about that controversial summit injuly in helsinki between us president donald trump and his russian counterpart mr putin in which the eu summarises it is successful, at least for putin. another giving a detailed account of a meeting between eu diplomats and the chinese president, talking about trade, xijinping talking about mr trump‘s trade tactics and saying he is behaving as if he is in no rules, freestyle boxing match, saying china will not be bullied. we knew about tensions between the us and china over trade but don‘t often hear that kind of anger in public but it is certainly do in private. and many others including reports on the situation in ukraine and crimea and a warning from the eu diplomat is year that they thought moscow may have deployed nuclear weapons to crimea, although there is no evidence that has happened. that would increase tensions. i suppose we should be thankful, or maybe... but do we have any idea who did this? area 51, the security company which handed the cables over to the new york times, says it bears the hallmarks of a unit of the people‘s liberation army in china, they say it isa liberation army in china, they say it is a chinese government operation. the chinese have not commented on that. you commission have said no system is absolutely secure, we are doing our best and will upgrade our systems and they have announced an investigation. the new york times has also spoken to the us national security agency and they say they want the eu some time ago their systems were not secure, but the warnings fell on deaf ears. thanks very much. the tech entrepreneur elon musk has been showing off the first tunnel built by his company to try to solve the congestion problem in los angeles. mr musk says commuters will one day use automated cars to cross the city in a series of tunnels, travelling at very high speeds. our correspondent, peter bowes, has peered inside. a new way to get around. a tunnel that transports ca rs and passengers at speeds of up to 150 mph. the one—mile stretch snakes its way under a city street to the south of los angeles. shrouded in secrecy up until now, this is elon musk‘s pet project. built by the billionaire entrepreneur‘s construction outfit, known as the boring company, the goal is to solve the problem of chronic traffic congestion. shrouded in secrecy up until now, this is elon musk‘s pet project. wouldn‘t it be incredible if you could travel around la, new york, dc, chicago, paris, london, anywhere, at 150 mph? it would be phenomenal. i mean, traffic is soul—destroying. it‘s like acid on the soul. it‘s horrible! it must go away! this is the start of the tunnel. it‘s a very narrow tunnel, just wide enough for a family car, in this case a modified tesla model x. to get through this tunnel, it has what they call alignment wheels on the front that keep it on track as it‘s heading through this stretch of tunnel, which isjust over a mile long. eventually, there could be hundreds of miles connecting neighbourhoods in this sprawling city. it could ease the pain of millions on their daily commute. as long as it doesn't have any detrimental effect on the environment, i think that would be a good idea, because we've had a lot of issues with traffic. i mean, i personally, coming from san diego, i have a lot of issues coming here with all the traffic. so, if it works, i'm all for it. there are other alternatives. there's a high—speed rail. i used to live injapan and i think that's... that's also worth exploring. the unveiling of this futuristic tunnel is being closely watched by transport industry analysts. but is it realistic? elon musk has this amazing ability to put on a great show and make a project look like it‘s this shiny, glossy, finished thing. but, in reality, what he‘s unveiled is a concrete tunnel. it could be a sewer. it‘s painted nicely in white. he‘s got an awful long way to go from translating that into a citywide transportation network. elon musk says he hopes a network of tunnels will be running in los angeles by the time the city hosts the olympic games in 2028. while some observers are sceptical, this may be the dawning of a new era in fast, environmentally friendly transport. peter bowes, bbc news, los angeles. and i suppose that will bring a solution to the weather as well. we talk to you yesterday about white christmas, and you told us that it isn‘t happening. we were very upset about it yesterday, but we sort of got over it. but there is something to look forward to still? potentially, yes. i know snow lovers we re potentially, yes. i know snow lovers were disappointed this would not be there. the second half of winter could potentially bring some very cold and weather. it all down to something called sudden stratospheric warming. let me explain what it is. it is something further into space, and what occurs with their weather patterns way up in the atmosphere above the polls. normally, certainly at this time of year, we have a polar vortex. it is an area of low pressure and you have winds pulling in cold air. the direction of those winds helps to maintain ourjet stream. that is what brings us spells a wet and windy weather. there are signs into some forecast that as we start january, that area of low pressure splits into two. what that does is it stops reinforcing the jet stream, which weakens a little bit and can allow easterly winds for us during the second half of winter. easterly winds in winter come from siberia, scandinavia, it means very cold weather and potentially a greater chance of something like that. those who miss out this christmas potentially later in the winter could see something more wintry. just to be clear, these are not bank of england scenarios, they are predictions based on what you are seeing already? predictions of what we think is about to happen. i am throwing a little bit of optimism for those who wa nt little bit of optimism for those who want a bit of snow. what you are saying is that when the january sales start, start thinking about a very thick scarf? we will keep you updated. for the moment, take to the artificial ice, like this in nottingham this lunchtime. lovely blue skies overhead. good to have sunshine back after the grey skies yesterday. not eve ryo ne after the grey skies yesterday. not everyone has that at the moment. there are speckles of white which are clouds towards the west. you can see that the rain is across england and wales, increasing into scotland. they will develop more widely across western areas through what is left of this afternoon. eastern areas stay dry into the rush—hour. even with lighter winds than yesterday, it will feel on the cold side. temperatures down to single figures as we start the evening. overnight, the showers in the west and enough ofa the showers in the west and enough of a breeze developing to push the showers further north and east at times was not not everyone will see the showers, and under the clear skies in the north and east, they could be a touch of frost into tomorrow morning. a chilly start to tomorrow, the showers hit and miss just about anywhere first thing. most likely across southern and western areas was not southern parts of england and wales will have a sunny afternoon with the showers fading away. the showers most likely through northern england, northern ireland and into scotland. temperatures fairly similar to today‘s values, around six or 11 degrees was cloud pushing into the south—west, and a spell of wet and windy weather for england and wales was mostly into friday morning. further north, clear skies and a frosty start. great elsewhere, with patchy rain and drizzle. many southern areas brighten up to sunshine with blustery winds, some showers in the west later. parts of northern ireland and northern england and southern scotland will stay pretty great, cloudy england and southern scotland will stay pretty great, cloudy and england and southern scotland will stay pretty great, cloudy and damp all day. a north—south split temperature —wise was not a fairly mixed and messy picture for the weekend. weather fronts and mixed and messy picture for the weekend. weatherfronts and low pressure. if you are doing a special, grab a waterproof. sunny on sunday afternoon, but as we go into christmas day, something a bit cooler. goodbye for now. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: the labour leaderjeremy corbyn denies using the phrase "stupid woman" during this commons exchange with theresa may. the government has set out its immigration policy. ministers say that what matters is the skills, not where people come from. we are absolutely not closing our doors. we are simply making sure that we have control over who comes through them. the european commission says it has started to implement its preparations for a no—deal brexit. sport now on afternoon live with katherine downes, and we have a former player on his way back to manage manchester united but it‘s only temporary? ole gunnar solskjaer? you cannot pretend you haven‘t heard of him! a long time ago, when he looked about ten yea rs long time ago, when he looked about ten years old. yes, the baby faced assassin, he was known as we stop he scored in the final of the champions league in 1999, which is probably the goal he is most famous for. 11 seasons at manchester united. the reason he has been brought in is because of those 11 seasons, so he is imbued in the philosophy of manchester united. he has the club in his heart, as he said ina has the club in his heart, as he said in a statement today. that is what they are looking for, a player to bring the heart back to the club. jose mourinho played a different style of football, defensive and negative. the united way, as the fa ns negative. the united way, as the fans say, is more positive. they are only bringing him back on a temporary basis. he is currently a manager at a norwegian club, and they have made it clear it is only temporary. they are just lending they have made it clear it is only temporary. they arejust lending him to united, they cannot have him for good. but who takes over for good? the leading candidate is the spurs boss. will he leave spurs to go to old trafford? boss. will he leave spurs to go to old trafford ? we boss. will he leave spurs to go to old trafford? we will have to wait and see. let‘s learn more about him and see. let‘s learn more about him and what they think about his being the interim manager. he was no stranger to rescuing united. he has scored! he has done it again. his goals made him an old trafford legend. he scored the winner in the 1999 champions league final, but now he is back with a different challenge, as caretaker manager. in a statement, he said that manchester united is in my heart and it is brilliant to be coming back in this role. the club‘s vice—chairman said his history at manchester united means he lives and breathes the culture. that‘s a hit, perhaps, of what was lacking underjose mourinho, who was sacked yesterday after weeks of turmoil. fans i spoke to this morning welcomed the norwegian‘s appointment. delighted. ithink he will bring the feel—good factor back to the club. we have had negative football for so long, and we need an uplift. we need the time to make sure that we get the right appointment for our next permanent manager. i think he will do that for the next six months. there were even congratulations from norway‘s prime minister. not everyone is so happy. he has only managed once in the premier league at cardiff, which endedin premier league at cardiff, which ended in relegation and the sack. some people believe that hardly bodes well. to be putting him as interim manager now is a shambles was let‘s get it right. five winds from 30 at cardiff. he might have scored the winning goal in the champions league, but is this where manchester united are at? this morning, it was training as usual for the players will stop paul pogba had become disillusioned underjose mourinho. ole gunnar solskjaer will have to re—energise him and the rest of the squad, in the hope that this former hero can bring back the glory days. lewis hamilton, says he "chose the wrong words" after insulting his hometown. he described stevenage as a "slum" during sports personality of the year, and got plenty of criticism — including from the local council. but hamilton says he just made a mistake. please, if you again have your feelings about things that i said by mistake on saturday, put them to one side. i am mistake on saturday, put them to one side. iam proud mistake on saturday, put them to one side. i am proud of where i come from, and! side. i am proud of where i come from, and i represent come from in the best way i can was not nobody is perfect, i definitely make mistakes often, in particular when you are in front of the crowd, trying to find the right words to express your journey in life, i chose the wrong words will stop god bless you, have a great day. two former wales captains have been named as assistants to the incoming head coach wayne peevac. stephen jones and jonathan humphreys willjoin the set up when peevac takes over from warren gatland after next year‘s world cup. ex—fly—half jones won 104 caps for his country — he said he was looking forward to what he hoped would be an exciting period in welsh rugby. that‘s all the sport for now. thank you. looking very festive, there. it is borrowed! there is probably an army of people out there who would like to say that. merry christmas to you. our thanks to steph mcgovern for providing wardrobe! some breaking news, which is the case of a russian whistle—blower who was living in the uk. he was found dead at his home. there is an inquest finding that he died of natural causes, which is the inquest that is taking place into the case that took place in 2012. our correspondentjon donnison is at the old bailey for us now. it has just it hasjust come it has just come in the last ten minutes. he was 44 years old, seemingly in good health. a russian millionaire thing in the uk. he went out for a run in 2012, millionaire thing in the uk. he went out fora run in 2012, he millionaire thing in the uk. he went out for a run in 2012, he didn‘t come back, he collapsed and died. people have made suggestions that because he had been helping with a swiss investigation into a massive allegation of fraud and money—laundering in russia, that he might have died as a result of foul play. today, the coroner here said that there was no direct evidence that there was no direct evidence that he had been murdered, and no basis to believe that he had been poisoned. he said that he most likely died of a heart attack through natural causes was top my colleague has the background to the case. the 44—year—old was apparently in good health when he collapsed and died near his mansion in surrey. he was completely clothed... his body was completely clothed... his body was found on a dark winters day. he had beenjogging. surrey police assumed he had had a heart attack, but others who had met him said it should have been treated immediately as suspicious was the he had been handing over sensitive documents to a british investment company, allegedly revealing how the company‘s branches in moscow had been seized and used to carry out a $200 million tax fraud. in this bar in mayfair, he apparently gave the company vital evidence, showing how those involved in the fraud had siphoned the money out of russia. he knew allegedly because he had helped them do it, but had now turned against them. these are copies of just some of the documents that he handed over, allegedly showing how corrupt russian officials and criminals in moscow laundered millions of dollars through swiss bank accounts. the company says his evidence led to some of the officials‘ bank accounts being frozen, making him a target for revenge. he had found out that his name was ona he had found out that his name was on a hit list, a hit man had documents in his house that were discovered by the moscow police, which showed information about his movements, locations and other things in the uk. while the inquest heard there was no evidence for this, in washington, it a heard there was no evidence for this, in washington, ita merge heard there was no evidence for this, in washington, it a merge that his name was on a list compiled by intelligence agencies of those believed to have been murdered by russian hit men, although the american government later denied this. with no signs of a violent attack found on his body, toxicology experts here at kew gardens search for traces of poisons, but their tests revealed nothing definitive. the inquest heard how most of his stomach contents had been thrown away after the first postmortem making testing more difficult. police also lost all of the data on a laptop found in his house. the data apparently, including a transaction of $500 million was up just before he died, he spent several days in paris with this fashion designer, who he was having an affair with. she told the inquest he had seemed very stressed and was drinking a lot, but had not mentioned any concerns about his safety. when his widow tatiana spoke at the inquest, herface hidden, she denied her husband had faced any threats and had adamant he had not been murdered. a view shared by surrey police was the inquest‘s conclusion that he died of natural causes will bring some relief to his widow, but not everyone will accept this verdict and there may now be calls for a public enquiry. i think that point that this verdict will probably not be enough for those who believe that he died as a result of foul play to let this go, but the coroner was adamant. he said, as! but the coroner was adamant. he said, as i mentioned at the beginning, there was no basis to believe that the russian millionaire was poisoned. he did have some criticism for surrey police. he said that they had really not a done a full assessment of who the man was when he was found dead. they had not carried out a proper postmortem for several weeks, they had not looked at the cctv footage as they should have done, they did not look at his mobile phones. basically, the conclusion today was that he died of natural causes. thank you. let‘s return to our top story on afternoon live, and there‘s a big row at westminster, and for once it isn‘t about brexit. jeremy corbyn has denied calling theresa may a "stupid woman" during prime minister‘s questions. after mrs may likened the labour leader‘s attempt to force a confidence vote in her earlier this week to a christmas pantomine, mr corbyn was shown on camera muttering. let‘s take a look again. i've got some advice for the right honourable gentleman. look behind you. they're not impressed and neither is the country. let‘s speak to kate proctor, who‘s politcal correspondent for the evening standard. thank you for coming into talk to us. what is your verdict on it? thank you for coming into talk to us. what is your verdict on mm isa us. what is your verdict on mm is a really boisterous and noisy pmqs, and probably one of the most chaotic i have ever seen. my take on what was actually said is its pretty ha rd to what was actually said is its pretty hard to make out. he was certainly accused of saying stupid woman. lots of lip readers, forensically trained lip readers have said that is what he said, but there are plenty of people on twitter now disputing that. most importantly, he denies it, he said stupid people and not stupid woman. what is the best way of him killing this off as a story, or does he not need to bother?|j actually or does he not need to bother?” actually thought as we were watching this unfold, that the heat turned pretty quickly ontojohn barco. andrea leadsom was called a stupid woman by the commons speaker earlier this year, and he actually did not apologise to her. it is still an ongoing issue between the pair of them. she stood up and said, you never apologised to me was as sooner she did that, it ended up being a free for all in terms of mps standing up, calling points of order and getting things off their chest that they wanted to save quite some time. i think labour don‘t need to do anything. i think their supporters will look at that clip and see what they want to see, and i think that the heat turned pretty quickly onto the conservative party and how chaotic things were for them. it looked towards the end like them. it looked towards the end like the speaker had lost control of that situation. he appeared to laugh but also likely have swallowed a wasp. is there a sense that he conditioned out but not take it? it was bizarre, he really was struggling. he was starting to loose as voice as well. it was just relentless, people heckling him. the conservatives were not even hiding their annoyance with him, their unhappiness with how he treats them. i think the speaker had a shocking day. it really feels like the beginning... it is a drawn—out process , the beginning... it is a drawn—out process, he is not leaving until next summer, but it will be hard for him to come back injanuary and reassert the authority he would likely stop pleasure to have you. we look forward to seeing how things work out when the house returns was top the bbc has approached the speaker‘s office for a reaction and they have so far made no comment. ahead of the long—delayed elections in the democratic republic of the congo this weekend, the bbc‘s africa correspondent, alastair leithead, has been on expedition across the country. he and his team spent nearly six weeks travelling the congo river, beginning at the end, as it were, where the river flows into the atlantic. they wanted to understand why a country like the drc, with huge forests and mineral riches, hasn‘t become the beating commercial heart of africa. in this, his final report, alastair journeys to the far east, which has been the worst affected by war. he visits beni, where an outbreak of ebola is getting out of control, as well as the displacement camps of kalemie. we are flying with united nations peacekeepers into one of the most dangerous towns in the country, beni in north kivu. you‘re on patrol with us, with the united nations forces here, going out into quite a dangerous area. there is ebola nearby and also there is a very strong militant group that, over the last few days, has killed probably dozens of civilians. un troops meet local leaders to assess the danger and show they have a presence in the area. from here, you cannot find anybody. even the people who are there, just when it is four, they start going, all of them. the un isn‘t popular because, despite their guns, a militant group is still killing civilians. they are wondering, how can the enemy across all of this bush and reach the town and start killing people just there in the town. they were out just a couple of hours. the un‘s trying to prevent attacks and take on the militants, but they also need to protect themselves. it‘s a tough balance. for 20 years they are here, so—called to stabilise the country. would you like them to leave? we want them to leave in 2020. you want the un to leave? in 2020, it must end. if we left the area, i believe that the situation, based on the current environment, could worsen very quickly. the situation is already worsening. the instability is forcing people to flee and allowing ebola to spread out of control. for two decades, war in eastern congo has forced millions of people from their homes. this is kalemie, further south. after two years fleeing ethnic violence, it‘s still too dangerous for these people to go home. terrible things were done to them. estelle was captured by militants, her village burnt down. translation: another woman and i were tied up. every night, we were raped by the rebels many times. the ordeal was unbearable. there are scores of armed groups across this country. it‘s usually about strong men wanting more power. but it‘s also about a government that doesn‘t have control in these places. that has always been the story of the congo. it was built that way. so much so, it‘s sometimes hard to see beyond. but in a young, vibrant and beautiful country, there is hope. and alastair is here. it is lovely to have you in the studio. what a journey. what was the purpose of it, apart from an amazing travelogue? with the elections coming up, we thought we wanted to explore a country the size of western europe, with very little info structure and few roads. there isa info structure and few roads. there is a massive river, which is a great way to try and tell the story of a country people do not know so much. they hear about ebola and war, they hear about stereotyped images about the congo and it was an idea to go in there and tell some of the history, to tell about the beauty, about the great riches. it is the biggest rainforest outside of the amazon. trillions of pounds of minerals under the ground. it was getting people to understand that and about the issues in the election. before we came on air, i had to play with the agreement you have got here. this is the most extraordinary thing, i have never experienced virtual reality before. what an xp is to have, to stand among gorillas, to be travelling on the congo, to be looking from the air, down at the ground, and rather alarmingly to find you behind me! you were very funny, you were talking to yourself and spinning in your chair talking to yourself and spinning in yourchairand talking to yourself and spinning in your chair and everything. this is the camera. it has got six eyes around there, which films everything around there, which films everything around you. while we were doing our documentary, we had our cameraman using this the whole time. without —— with our computer power, we then produced the vr experience. you do actually see things. you reach. the gorillas... at home, i had friends who were trying to reach out. i tried to get my dog to stand in to freak them out! as a foreign correspondence, myjob is to get out there and let people understand through radio and text. this is almost literally holding people by the hand. you almost like a tour guide. you were doing a piece to camera by one of the mine workings and describing those two guys, doesn‘t it look small? the most alarming bit was when you mix between shots and i found myself sitting in a truck with cue soldiers with their guns next to me. my rain was going, don‘t make eye contact! you were saying that out loud as well. i had my headphones on, i could not hear what i was saying. the most interesting question is, how can people access that question mccracken —— they can watch the documentary on the iplayer. you can also get these cardboard things, you ta ke also get these cardboard things, you take your phone, go on youtube and we have this film on youtube, you put your phone in, turn it on... and you still get some of the effect? the full effect. it is a good experience, a great way of doing it. we are doing this because we can, because we are doing these trips a nyway to because we are doing these trips anyway to places people cannot get to. you can take people to the congo river, where they cannot get because it is dangerous and too difficult. and there are moments where you had to make a fast exit, even on this trip. yes, on the last they have this trip, we had to get out of the mine area, where we wanted to address the issue of children working in the mines, but it was owned by a powerfulfamily working in the mines, but it was owned by a powerful family and we had to leave quickly. we were not able to tell that story. thank you again for coming able to tell that story. thank you againfor coming in able to tell that story. thank you again for coming in and telling us about it. what is the name of the documentary? congo: a riverjourney. thank you forjoining us and for letting me have a play earlier. time for a look at the weather. here‘s matt taylor. still some shower clubs and more of them as we head into the afternoon. especially in the west was top especially as we go in the rush—hour, seven and 9 degrees was top the cloud spread across many areas, bringing showers along the coast was top with some lengthy clear skies inland and in eastern areas, temperatures get close to frost levels as we start tomorrow morning. a cool start with some showers here and there in include and wales will stop it becomes drier through the day. the main focus will be through parts of western scotland and northern ireland and through northern england. some of those heavy with hail and funder. not too breezy, but it will be a fresh day when the showers come through, between six and 11 celsius for many. rain through the night into the start of friday, and sunshine and showers this weekend. hello, you‘re watching afternoon live. i‘m shaun ley. today at 3: the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, denies using the phrase ‘stupid woman‘ during this commons exchange with the prime minister. look behind you! they‘re not impressed and neither is the country! the government has set out its immigration policy for the uk after brexit. what matters, ministers says, will be skills, not where people come from. we are absolutely not closing our doors. we are simply making sure that we have control over who comes through them. the european commission says it has started to implement its preparations for a no—deal brexit. a coroner rules that a russian mafia whistleblower — who died after going out for a run near his home in surrey six years ago — probably died of natural causes. coming up on afternoon live — all the sport, with katherine downs. talking about the baby faced assassin! yes. he certainly has the history and the status at manchester united, but does he have the managerial knauss to stop the slide at old trafford ? knauss to stop the slide at old trafford? i knauss to stop the slide at old trafford ? i will ask knauss to stop the slide at old trafford? i will ask more about that at half—past. intriguing stuff, more ina at half—past. intriguing stuff, more in a moment. and we‘ll be joining you for a full update just after half—past. matt has all the weather. nice to have sunshine in our lives after the cloud and rain of yesterday but the shower clouds around and! yesterday but the shower clouds around and i will tell you if you will get caught by those on the way home from work, later. we look forward to that. thanks, matt. also this hour... tech entrepeneur elon musk unveils the first tunnel built by his company to solve the congestion problem under los angeles. hello, everyone. this is afternoon live. i‘m shaun ley. standing infor standing in for simon mccoy. jeremy corbyn has denied calling theresa may a ‘stupid woman‘ during prime minister‘s questions — in a misogyny row which is all the talk of westminster. after mrs may likened the labour leader‘s attempt to force a confidence vote in her earlier this week to a christmas pantomine, mr corbyn was shown on camera muttering. cabinet ministers called on him to apologise. the labour leader‘s spokesman said he had mouthed "stupid people", referring generally to mps. let‘s cross now to our political correspondent, vicki young, who joins us now from westminster. —— iain watson. i was at my kids school play yesterday and a lot of them were restless and cantankerous. asimilar them were restless and cantankerous. a similar spirit at westminster today amongst mps. extraordinary scenes as we will see. but at the co re scenes as we will see. but at the core of this is a serious issue because having had a go at the prime minister over her brexit policy and running away from a vote on her deal asjeremy running away from a vote on her deal as jeremy corbyn running away from a vote on her deal asjeremy corbyn would have it, his own comments, whatever they happens to be, have overshadowed this. we will allow people to judge for themselves, but there were accusations he was being misogynistic by calling theresa may a stupid woman. his spokesman said jeremy corbyn is added and that adamant he referred to stupid people, general criticism of the conservative front bench. this came at the end of the basic mini pantomime where mr corbyn was criticised for having an on of confidence vote, people from the conservative frontbenchers were shouting, yes, he does, no, he doesn‘t, like in pantomime and this provoked this response. sojudge for yourself, women or people? let‘s watch. i‘ve got some advice for the right honourable gentleman. look behind you. they‘re not impressed and neither is the country! while that was going on and you can judge for yourself whatjeremy corbyn said, his opponents were trying to take advantage. they had already decided he said the words stupid woman and there was an intervention even before pmqs came to an end by conservative backbencher paul scully. do you think it's appropriate language, can i ask my right honourable friend, to call people 'stupid women' in this chamber? shocking! can i say to my honourable friend that i think that everybody in this house, particularly in this 100th year, anniversary of women getting the vote, should be aiming to encourage women to come into this chamber and to stand in this chamber, and should therefore use appropriate language in this chamber when they‘re referring to female members. so the prime minister basically arguing in very general terms that that language is not appropriate without necessarily committing herself to making the accusation that that is whatjeremy corbyn said. a spokesman after that he was asked for about ten minutes sustained questions about mr corbyn had said and while —— and why he wasn‘t present at the end of migratory and why he cleared off so quickly. the spokesman perhaps was a little frustrated at being asked why there were not more questions about there were not more questions about the crisis facing the country. but he was sticking to this line that jeremy corbyn did not use the phrase stupid woman. what is interesting is subsequently to that, the scenes became even more chaotic in the house of commons and former foreign secretary margaret beckett, from labour, suggested there was an organised riot on the conservative frontbenchers, but the target was not simplyjeremy corbyn. the leader of the house, andrea leadsom, was asking the speakerjohn bercow why he had used apparently similar and insulting language himself towards her. thank you, mr speaker. i would just like to ask, after your finding there that individuals who are found to have made unwelcome remarks should apologise, why it is that when an opposition member found that you had called me a stupid woman, you did not apologise in this chamber? no, no. no. i'll deal with the point. hear, hear, hear! i dealt with that matter months ago, in remarks that i made to the house of commons, to which the right honourable lady — in our various meetings since — has made no reference, and which requires from the chair today no elaboration whatsoever. mr speaker, with great respect to the chair, i have to say this — if it was one of my male colleagues on this side of the house that had used that expression against a woman on the front bench on the opposition, you, sir, would take action immediately. this is not acceptable. please would you deal with it, as you often do, mr speaker, in a fair way, but also from the point of view of women in this house who are fed up over decades of being abused by men? very happy... yes, i'm very happy to deal with it. the right honourable lady is absolutely right to say that if i witnessed an instance of the kind that hasjust been alleged, i would deprecate it unreservedly. so interestingly, what happens next after those scenes in the house of commons? well, there will be a review of the evidence, or what some have called a video replay like you get ina have called a video replay like you get in a football match and probably no less controversial. the clocks of staff were running around after that session trying to find out how they can obtain the commons footage from the official broadcaster to review this. jeremy corbyn spokesman said it doesn‘t matter what the decision is they reach becausejeremy corbyn is they reach becausejeremy corbyn is absolutely clear about what he said. some people suggesting lip leaders and a percussionist said he said should be woman, but his spokesperson has said for such a short comment, nobody can be quite sure. as long asjeremy corbyn says, this is what i said, it is virtually impossible to take any action. but the footage is being viewed and we will see if there is further action. if not, i expect there will be further fuss made about the speaker‘s roll and whether he is being strong enough to enforce parliamentary robes. we shall see as the day goes on. what is also interesting, of mps have tweeted about incidents that happened to them including andrea jenkyns, who said she was insulted by the chancellor philip hammond. let‘s look at this and see what you think. thank you, mr speaker. cut the prime minister in form the house at what point it was decided that brexit means remain? prime minister! so despite the fact that everyone calls it should not honourable members here, you get the impression the house of commons is not always well—behaved and not always polite. i think we all know that. a quick reminder after today‘s controversy, only three months until brexit. yes, i bet they are also very glad it is so close to the christmas recess. it sounds like they need a bit of cooling fresh air. from westminster, many thanks. downing street has rejected a suggestion by the home secretary, sajid javid, that the government is dropping its commitment to keep net migration below 100,000, post—brexit. questioned this morning on bbc radio, mrjavid refused, seven times, to say whether he was committed to the target. today, the government unveiled a new system for immigration after brexit — which it says prioritises migrants‘ skills rather than where they come from. the plans mean workers from the eu will no longer have the automatic right to work in the uk after brexit. when he came to the commons in the past few hours to outline the plans to mps, the home secretary referred to bringing net migration down to sustainable levels. the future system is about making sure immigration works in the best interests of the uk. we are absolutely not closing our doors. we‘re simply making sure that we have control over who comes through them. ensuring, as we committed to do in our manifesto, that we are able to bring annual net migration down to more sustainable levels. our home affairs correspondent, danny shaw, joins me now with the details. can we nailed this first of all? why is there a net migration figure and what is it designed to tell us? net migration is the difference between immigration to the uk, the number of people coming to live here for 12 months or more, and the number of people emigrating from britain. net migration was first set as a target by david cameron before the 2010 general election. he said it should be back down to the levels we saw in the 1990s, at less than 100,000. so the 1990s, at less than 100,000. so the tens of thousands remains a ma nifesto the tens of thousands remains a manifesto commitment in 2015 and 2017, which is why the prime minister today said, yes, she‘s still sticks to that target of tens of thousands. even though it is a target they have not met and appear to be nowhere near meeting?‘ target they have not met and appear to be nowhere near meeting? a lot of cabinet ministers and other people and government say this is ridiculous, we are nowhere near that target, it is 273,000 at the moment, it isa target, it is 273,000 at the moment, it is a crude device in a way for steering the government in a particular direction, to get immigration levels down. it is so far away, that is why some cabinet ministers don‘t want to talk about that target, they prefer to talk about sustainable levels because thatis about sustainable levels because that is more general. it is very striking on the day we have the government white paper on immigration, the blueprint for the immigration, the blueprint for the immigration system, there is not one mention of bringing it down to tens of thousands or under 100,000. there are six references to sustainable levels, which is what the home secretary sajid javid prefers to talk about, but no mention of tens of thousands. no mention what sustainable could be. one witticism conservatives made of labour in government was its use of targets in the health service and they said the problem is the target ends up distorting the policy. to what extent has that been true in migration? certainly through the windrush affair, we saw what happened with removal targets, where you had people rounded up and detained immigration centres or deported who had a right to stay in the uk. and that is one reason why sajid javid in this immigration paper says there are no targets whatsoever. and there is obviously that principle met —— at migration target. we have a new system instead, designed principally to ensure that skilled workers can come to the uk from the eu and also from outside the eu. there will be numbers. the salary threshold, the amount they have to earn, in order to qualify to come here, there has been a recommendation that should be £30,000, but it is a source of dispute and will be consulted on. and there will be a route for people who do not have skilled work. people who do not have skilled work. people who come here and they might want to dojobs in the hospitality who come here and they might want to do jobs in the hospitality sector, serving restaurants, cleaning up, those sorts ofjobs. they can come here for 12 months and there will be no restrictions on them coming here, but they have to leave after 12 months, although there is a possibility they can switch at some point to another route. that is very important because people were worried that without those unskilled workers, businesses and public services would suffer. thank you very much and we will hear from nhs employers later to see what they make of that decision. our correspondent sarah ransom is in torquay for us now. it looks a nice day, you are going to get some opinion and reaction on the south—west coast. to get some opinion and reaction on the south-west coast. that is right, iam, it isa the south-west coast. that is right, iam, it is a bit the south-west coast. that is right, i am, it is a bit blowy here and the rain has gone through. i am here in torquay. this was an area that voted strongly to leave back in 2016. and this is an area that relies on some of those hospitality workers will guest was talking about. and also relies very heavily on the care sector for relies very heavily on the care sectorfor migrant relies very heavily on the care sector for migrant workers. there relies very heavily on the care sectorfor migrant workers. there is an elderly demographic in the area. so to gauge some sort of reaction for people living and working in this part of the world, i have been joined on the seafront i danni. just listening to some of the stuff coming out of westminster today, what is your take on it? around here, there is a lot of tourist work andl here, there is a lot of tourist work and i work in the building sector. a lot of eastern european is take what i would class as britishjobs lot of eastern european is take what i would class as british jobs and send them money out of the uk economy. so i think what a lot of other people may also think. which is? let them go, really. in your line of work, is it a problem? not as much a problem, but i see a lot of european workers over here and that could be given to british workers, especially those not employed and on benefits. it would really help our country. thank you. pam walker, i stopped you walking on the seafront, you are having a constitutional, what are your thoughts about this afternoon?” really feel at the beginning of brexit, everyone was voting to come out of the european union for the immigrant side of things. and i think now that they're trying to bring this into pacified what everyone is thinking, we voted to come out because of the immigration situation, but now they are deciding to bring it into pacified the people. how does that sit with you? the same thing as liberal politics, you are told with one thing and another thing happens. just the same as with all politics. it is very sad it has come to this situation that they are trying to swap their minds all the time to suit people so they stay in power. john walker, you were telling me earlier your daughter lives in australia and you have fallen foul of their immigration side of things. what are your views this afternoon? as i say, australia is quite great because it has the right system. they don't let people into their country unless they can offer something to the country. and we have just let people in and they have come over and settled over here and a lot of the people have taken britishjobs and and a lot of the people have taken british jobs and british and a lot of the people have taken britishjobs and british homes and a lot of the people have taken british jobs and british homes and they are a drain on our national health service as well. some people would say those jobs were open to everybody and british workers could have gone for them if they had wa nted have gone for them if they had wanted to. yes, but most employers will go for the people that will acce pt will go for the people that will accept cheaper wages and cheaper costs of living. you'd think what is coming out of westminster this afternoon might work?” coming out of westminster this afternoon might work? i don't know really. it is about time england stood up for the english. the whole think about the vote was people were annoyed about the immigrants coming over and taking jobs and homes and a drain on the nhs service, so i think it is about time we did something about it and notjust it is about time we did something about it and not just talk about it all the time. dan walker, thank you very much. to everybody who stopped on this cold afternoon in torquay —— john. plenty of discussion and debate and more in westminster. from guards own county, thanks very much! let‘s get the thoughts of danny mortimer, chief executive of nhs employers, an organisation which acts on behalf of nhs trust in england and wales. thanks very much for being with us this afternoon. what do you make of these proposals and what impact do you think they may have on the health service? i think the first thing i would like to do is respond to some of the comments you had from the seafront in torquay. the most important thing to stress is what we see in the nhs is that people who come from abroad make a vital contribution to the delivery of care in our services and they are not a drain on our services, they are absolutely essential to deliver care tojohn absolutely essential to deliver care to john and people absolutely essential to deliver care tojohn and people across this country. in terms of the proposals being made, we welcome the fact the government has said they are up for consultation. our response is very much like the rest of the economy and the other representative organisations like the cbi. the idea that you can equate salary with skill is disappointing. and frankly, i think it will be of concern to the vast majority of our staff. who are hugely skilled, hugely valued in terms of the care they provide in our communities, but who earn much less tha n our communities, but who earn much less than the £30,000 being discussed of late. which raises the question, that quote i saw you put out whether government, if it continues to confuse high pay with high skill and high—value, that is more a reflection on employers, is it, if these are skills we value and if they reported skills, we should be paying them more? well, of course, for my members and the employees that work in our sector, the1.4 employees that work in our sector, the 1.4 million who work for us, their pay is set by the government. and in common with charities and social care, with other parts of the public sector, we don‘t pay at least initially in people‘s korea‘s salaries above £30,000. they are hugely important and skilled roles. what about the argument the home secretary used this afternoon, there will be exemption opportunities and a particular time when there is a shortage of dental technicians for example and radiographers where we will make an exception and you can recruit outside the uk to bring in people from the rest of the world? it is fairto people from the rest of the world? it is fair to say that is what the government have done this year to make sure there are sufficient work permits available for doctors in particular and we really welcome that. but that took six months to achieve, that was a hard—fought process to convince the government to add doctors, to remove doctors and nurses from the migration cap. we wa nt and nurses from the migration cap. we want a system that does that in a much more straightforward manner, that doesn‘t have as a starting point salary as a measure of worth to the economy, that recognises there are rules, particularly in health care and also social care and other sectors, that really crucial to the health and wealth of this nation. about keeping people in fit and in work, about caring for people‘s families and parents and grandparents, and if we can‘t recruit people to do that, if our collea g u es recruit people to do that, if our colleagues from social care cannot bring people into stuff that care homes and domiciliary services, that will have a detrimental impact on the economy. thank you very much. you‘re watching afternoon live. these are our headlines: the labour leaderjeremy corbyn denies calling therasa may a ‘stupid woman‘ during prime minister‘s questions. the government sets out its immigration policy for the uk after brexit. what matters, ministers says, will be skills where people come from. a coroner rules that a russian mafia whistleblower who died after going out for a run near his home in surrey six years ago, probably died of natural causes. ole gunnar solskjar is the interim manager of manchester united but who will be the manager in the long term to turn manchester united around? former wales captain stephen jones and jonathan humphreys have been named assistant coaches to that new coach when he takes over from warren gatland. lewis hamilton apologises for calling his hometown, stevenage, is freedom —— a slum during his speech at the bbc sports personality of the year. more on this stories just after half past. we heard yesterday that the prime minister and her cabinet discussed "ramping—up" preparations for a no—deal brexit. today, the european commission has published details of the measures it will take. earlier, i spoke to our brussels reporter, adam fleming, and asked for more details. well, this is the culmination of some work that started earlier this year. we saw an outline of this published in november, and what the european commission is doing today is publishing the 14 new bits of eu law that need to be put in place to keep things ticking over between the uk and the eu in key sectors. and i‘ll run through a couple of them, and that will help to answer that question. so, when it comes to transport, obviously, there‘s loads of flights between the uk and the eu every day, they want to maintain that basic level so they‘re going to do legislation so british airlines can fly into and out of the eu. they won‘t be able to operate flights within the eu, though, and that power will last for a year. when it comes to british truckers, they will still be able to bring goods from the uk into the eu for a period of nine months, if there‘s no brexit deal after march 2019, before they‘ll then have to apply for some very limited and scarce permits. so that‘s giving them a grace period to adjust. when it comes to financial services, the eu has looked at the bits of the banking industry and financial services world that it needs to protect in a no—deal scenario and it‘s come up with a couple of quite narrow things like the clearing of derivatives. and it‘s said, fine, we will now use our procedures where we recognise, the eu recognise, you, the uk‘s financial services regulations as the same, so that that trade can continue in some cases for a year, in some other cases for two years. so they‘re just looking at things where the eu feels it needs to protect its interests and it‘s identified these sectors as those things. the last time this came up, i asked the commission officials, well, hang on, why would you pass some legislation that means that derivatives are ok, but you wouldn‘t pass legislation to make sure everyone gets the medicine they needed? and they just said that they‘d looked at the sectors and this was the bare minimum they could do. so medicine isn‘t in there, but some financial services are. breaking news from our correspondents covering the case of the peterborough mp, this is from our news—gathering journalist in the court. an mp has been found guilty of perverting the course ofjustice. this was a retrial of the case in which the allegation was she had not disclosed he was driving a car involved in an incident. that is the mpfor involved in an incident. that is the mp for peterborough, guilty of perverting the course ofjustice. fiona onasa nya. perverting the course ofjustice. fiona onasanya. the law is clear, mps found guilty who serve prison time ofa mps found guilty who serve prison time of a certain length or automatically disqualified and there has to be a by—election. it does not apply in every case where an mp is convicted, but we need to do some checking to find out subject when she her sentence. but fiona onasanya, she her sentence. but fiona onasa nya, who she her sentence. but fiona onasanya, who had pleaded not guilty, has been found guilty of perverting the course ofjustice. more on that as we get it. an inquest into the death of a russian whistle—blower in surrey six years ago, has concluded that he died of natural causes. alexander perepilichny, a wealthy businessman, had been handing over sensitive documents allegedly implicating russian officials in moscow in a huge fraud and money laundering operation. activists said they believed he had been murdered by russian hit—men. police and his widow insisted he‘d died of natural causes. well, a short while ago, surrey police made a statement outside court. our thoughts remain with the friends and family of mr perepilichny following his tragic death in november 2012 and we recognise the profound impact that this has had on those who know him. the inquest was focused on the circumstances surrounding his death including examining any evidence that he may have been unlawfully killed. this has been the details and exhaustive process in which the coroner has examined all of the available evidence and has returned a verdict of natural causes. this supports the conclusion reached by surrey police in 2013 following a full investigation which concluded two postmortems and a very extensive range of toxicology tests. no evidence of any third—party involvement in mr perepilichny‘s death was found. surrey police has faced criticism around the way parts of the original investigation were handled. and we accept that some organisational errors were made in nearly stages. these issues were reviewed by the force at the time and dealt with at the time. much time has elapsed since mr perepilichny‘s death in 2012 and the verdict reached today and this has been extremely testing for his family. i thoughts are with them at this difficult time and we hope that today‘s verdict will help them finally be able to come to terms with them death of their loved one. thank you. our correspondent jon donnison is at the old bailey for us now. there was a lot of interest in this case, this goes back several years, but because of the case of the skripals and that they may have been poisoned on the orders of the russian president. why was there so much suspicion about this? you are right, this goes back six years to 2012. it did pick up last year with the skripal investigation. alexander perepilichny was a russian millionaire living in london, in a leafy bit of surrey. he was 44 years old and seemingly pretty healthy, then one november night, he went out for a then one november night, he went out fora run in his then one november night, he went out for a run in his neighbourhood and he was found collapsed and subsequently, he died. at the time, surrey police initially concluded there were no suspicious circumstances and that he most likely died of a heart attack. but because of who he was, people began to look at this more closely. mr perepilichny was assisting an investigation in switzerland into a massive multi—billion dollar fraud and money—laundering case in russia, involving russian mafia and allegedly involving russian officials. and people involved in that investigation said, look, because of who he was, they suspected foul play, they suspected he had been murdered. but today, the judge nicolas hilliard qc, the coroner, he said there was no direct evidence he had been murdered, none at all. he said while he could not com pletely at all. he said while he could not completely rule out that he had been poisoned, there was no basis to believe that was actually the case, he said the probability was that he died ofa he said the probability was that he died of a heart attack and of natural causes. the european union has announced an urgent investigation after hackers accessed thousands of sensitive diplomatic conversations. eu officials say they have started a probe into the data breach, and europe is on high alert for suspicious online activity in the run—up to key parliamentary elections in may next year. it‘s reported that hackers using similar techniques to the chinese military gained entry to european union communications. our correspondentjohn mcmanus joins me with the details. what do we know so far? what was revealed by these leaks? it is embarrassing for the eu, a leak of thousands of diplomatic cables was not embarrassing because their security systems seem to have been hacked very easily through cyprus. i will explain more on that in a moment. also because thousands of ca bles moment. also because thousands of cables containing private and secret conversations between the eu‘s only diplomats and world leaders, the kind of thing they would like to keep secret from you and me and the general public, are now in the public arena for all to see. some of them are very interesting. one of them are very interesting. one of the most interesting is from the man or woman the most interesting is from the man orwoman in the most interesting is from the man or woman in moscow talking about the summit in helsinki between donald trump and his russian counterpart, vladimir putin in july. trump and his russian counterpart, vladimir putin injuly. the eu decided that was successful, at least for putin. they also talked about the situation in ukraine and crimea. one eu dipper might want in that they thought that moscow may have deployed nuclear warheads there, although there is no independent evidence that that has happened. also involving china was a cable that relates to the chinese president. they said that in the us was behaving as if it was fighting and a no rules freestyle boxing match and vowing not to give in to bullying. we know that this trade spat between china and the us has nearly spilled over into a full—scale trade war, and now we know there is real chinese anger behind—the—scenes as well. who might have been responsible for this leak, and what is known about the way they are responding to it in terms of practicalities? they were published by the new york times, but they were given to them by a security company, area one. they say that what they have discerned is that what they have discerned is that it was the work of a unit of a chinese government organisation. the hackers gained access to the system fairly easily by sending fishing e—mails to diplomats in cyprus. when the link was clicked on, login details and passwords were immediately available to the hackers. then they could see thousands of diplomatic cables. much embarrassment, i think, for cyprus. the eu has been talking about this today, the vice president of the commission said they were trying to improve their systems, but no commit occasion system would ever be absolutely secure. they have launched an investigation. the new york times says its own security intelligence services in the nite estates have talked about how they tried to warn the eu about this issue and tried to tell them to tighten up their security, and this is the result. never mind the underpin magic language in the m essa g es underpin magic language in the messages are, i‘m sure there was undiplomatic lag which in russells as well today! now it‘s time for a look at the weather, with matt taylor. temperatures dropping as we go into the evening rush—hour, between seven and 9 degrees was not a cool night in store, with 20 of showers on the go initially, spreading across many areas from south—west to north—east. the coast. clear skies inland and eastern areas, we are proud to see temperatures reaching frost levels as we start tomorrow morning. for the rush—hour, a cool start with some showers was top in the south, it becomes drier during the day. the main focus for the showers will be in western scotland, northern ireland and through northern england, some of those heavy with hailand england, some of those heavy with hail and thunder. not too breezy, but it will be a fresh day when the showers come through, between six and 11 celsius. driest and sunniest in the east was top rain through the night into friday, and then sunshine and showers this weekend. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: the labour mp for peterborough, fiona onasa nya, has been found guilty of perverting the course of justice after colluding with her brother and lying to police to avoid a speeding charge. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn denies calling therasa may a "stupid woman" during prime minister‘s questions. the government sets out its immigration policy for the uk after brexit. what matters, ministers say, will be skills not where people come from. the european commission says it has started to implement its preparations for a no—deal brexit. a coroner rules that a russian mafia whistle—blower, who died after going out for a run near his home in surrey six years ago, probably died of natural causes. sport now on afternoon live with katherine downes. still in steph mcgovern‘s top! still in steph mcgovern's top! i'm not going to change edge i forgot my jacket. it is lovely. she has got very good taste. ole gunnar solskjaer has been confirmed as interim manager at manchester united. there are concerns that the club has hamstrung themselves by appointing an interim managerfor the next themselves by appointing an interim manager for the next six themselves by appointing an interim managerfor the next six months, they might miss out on transfers and changes that they might like to make to keep up with liverpool and manchester city. they have made this choice because they want to get the next appointment right, having had a few mistakes since sir alex ferguson stepped down as manager. they want to get this one right and they have gone for ole gunnar solskjaer. andy swiss reports. he was no stranger to rescuing united. he has scored! he has done it again. his goals made him an old trafford legend. he scored the winner in the 1999 champions league final, but now he is back with a different challenge, as caretaker manager. in a statement, he said... the club‘s vice—chairman said... that‘s a hint, perhaps, of what was lacking under jose mourinho, who was sacked yesterday after weeks of turmoil. fans i spoke to this morning welcomed the norwegian‘s appointment. delighted. i think he will bring the feel—good factor back to the club. we have had negative football for so long, and we need an uplift. we need the time to make sure that we get the right appointment for our next permanent manager. i think he will do that for the next six months. there were even congratulations from norway‘s prime minister. not everyone is so happy. he has only managed once in the premier league at cardiff, which ended in relegation and the sack. some believe that hardly bodes well. to be putting him as interim manager now is a shambles let‘s get it right. five wins from 30 at cardiff. he might have scored the winning goal in the champions league, but is this where manchester united are at? this morning, it was training as usual for the players, including paul pogba, who had become disillusioned underjose mourinho. solskjaer will have to re—energise him and the rest of the squad, in the hope that this former hero can bring back the glory days. the spurs boss is the leading contenderfor the spurs boss is the leading contender for that permanentjob. we will go straight back to the house of commons was top i am responding to her. it is not in order to impute dishonour to another member. that is a very long established convention of this house. it is not orderly to accuse another memberof house. it is not orderly to accuse another member of dishonesty. when the honourable lady in is what further may be done, the answer to the honourable lady is that people can seekto the honourable lady is that people can seek to solicit opinions on this matter, including of a professional character. i have offered actual notice, as i thought was my duty, the fruits of the professional advice that i have received. i have shared that very openly with the house was top it is not for the chair to pronounce judgment, guilty or innocent, upon a member. it is well established that a member is to be taken at his or her word. if the matter is to be further discussed, debated, commented upon, that is to be expected. but it isn't a matter of order for the chair now. that is as full and courteous response as i could be to provide. point avoided, vicky ford. i have heard the words stupid woman being used in this chamber about myself, and i‘m afraid to say i have heard it from yourself in the speaker‘s chair. mr speaker, cani in the speaker‘s chair. mr speaker, can i have an apology, draw a line against this and move on.” can i have an apology, draw a line against this and move on. i am grateful to her for her point of order. i understood she had made this observation outside the house. what i want to say to the honourable lady, whom i always treat with great respect in this chamber, is the following. the honourable lady has at no time previously, that is to say prior to today, made that allegation against me. the honourable lady has not come to me and said that and, to my knowledge,... if the honourable lady would do me the courtesy of responding to her point of order. if there is such an allegation, i've refuted 100%. i have received a letter from the honourable lady, as she knows, within the last 24 hours, on an unrelated matter, specifically to do with proxy voting and baby leave, and i believe i am right in saying... perhaps the honourable lady will do me the courtesy of allowing me to respond. i believe i am right in saying that she wrote to be off on that matter at least in pa rt be off on that matter at least in part in her capacity as chair of the all— party women's group part in her capacity as chair of the all—party women's group in this house was top to that letter, she will of course receive a response. that contention has not previously been made, but if it is now made, i say with absolute certainty it is not correct. i have not said that two or about the honourable lady. that is my response to the honourable lady. yes, indeed. point of order. i would like to say it is nice to be back! ijust wonder what conclusion members of the public will draw from the chamber being used in this way. the right honourable gentleman has made his point. i have heard from my constituency office today that members of my constituency and residents have had to have parcels delivered to them because they cannot afford to by children presents. the chamber being used in this way is absolutely pathetic. she has made her own points in her own way and it is on the record. i thank her for taking part way and it is on the record. i thank herfortaking part in way and it is on the record. i thank her for taking part in these proceedings. i will come to other members, preferably to those who have not already raised points of order. i think it is important what language is used in this chamber. this centenary year, a large number of us on all sides of the house have made huge efforts to encourage more women to stand for parliament, many of which have been successful. i believe women are coming forward. it isa believe women are coming forward. it is a great shame that we seem to be nearing the end of the year on such a sour note. can i urge you, mr speaker, to do more to make sure that the tone of this chamber is better next year? not just to draw a line under it, but to make sure that this chamber is better on this point? that is an entirely reasonable point of order. i am happy to do my bit, and everybody else should do their bit as well. i have the highest regard for the honourable lady, whose commitment on theseissuesis honourable lady, whose commitment on these issues is well known to me. i hope the honourable lady and others will take it in the right spirit if i say that, throughout my 9.5 years in the chairto i say that, throughout my 9.5 years in the chair to date, i have devoted myself to the cause of trying to open up this place. i have sought to do everything i can to promote a progressive approach in the chamber, in the calling of members, in the functions that i host in speakers house,in functions that i host in speakers house, in the approach to facilities on the estate, which didn't previously exist. that is all part of the record. it is manifest, it is observable and it is incontrovertible. can be all the better? we can. should we all do better? we can. should we all do better? we can. should we all do better? we should. we'll be do better? we should. we'll be do better question might i hope we will. on live television this afternoon, i think everybody in the house would know of dame evil in glennie, a world—famous percussionist, she was sewn by the presenter of that television programme the clip of the leader of the opposition, and asked what he had said. she said he said stupid woman. is there anyway i can put on the record that with that tone of apology from the right honourable gentleman, it would have been better if he had not bothered.” gentleman, it would have been better if he had not bothered. i don't honestly think, and i say this was all courtesy, what he wanted to do with sight i am not criticising the honourable gentleman, and i'm great full for his good humour. he wanted to make his own point and he has made it. i stand by what i previously said. the honourable gentleman has made an important point, but is not a contradiction of what i have said about the impossibility of certainty, nor is it inconsistent with the spontaneous interpretation which i myself offered. but i repeat it was my interpretation. i am offered. but i repeat it was my interpretation. lam not offered. but i repeat it was my interpretation. i am not a lip reader, a and it is not for me to castjudgment reader, a and it is not for me to cast judgment in this reader, a and it is not for me to castjudgment in this matter. for mine people —— fair minded people who were interested in the merits of theissue, who were interested in the merits of the issue, and i am sure that includes the honourable gentleman, will know that what i say is true. i will know that what i say is true. i will come to other colleagues was not point of order. i also agree we have a responsibility as member of this house to be upholding the very highest standards in language about each other, but also about each other's integrity. i do hope that we will be able to see a renewed commitment to that next year. mr speaker, i also would like to say i have been proud to sit on your committee for enhancing equality in this house was top i will put on re cord this house was top i will put on record my thanks to you for your commitment to equality and diversity in this house in so many different manners will. my point of order is ona manners will. my point of order is on a different topic, because according to press reports of a leaked dwp document, eu exit planning, economic downturn, the government as part of his long—term contingency planning in the event of no deal suggested it would create a strategy with other departments, handling the negative impacts, such as homelessness, poverty and suicide. mr speaker, if this is true, they are extremely serious matters that should be brought to this house so we have access to government analysis as to who they expect to fall into poverty, where homelessness can rise, and who they see at risk of suicide. the house of commons there. john bercow responding to points of order complaining aboutjeremy corbyn allegedly using the phrase stupid woman, or mouthing it. we should hear now what mr corbin had to say. at the speaker‘s request, he came to the dispatch box in the last half—hour or so and responded. this is what the speaker had to say before he introduced him.” is what the speaker had to say before he introduced him. i have looked at the television footage of the leader of the opposition reacting to the prime minister, allegedly saying stupid woman to those seated next to him. having heard the allegation against the leader of the opposition and having watched the footage, it is easy to see why the leader of the opposition's words might be construed as stupid woman. that was also the opinion of lip speakers, rather than lip readers, whose advice was sought and obtained at short notice. as may be known to members of the house, but it is important in terms of establishing the context, but may not be known to others watching or listening to our proceedings, the right honourable gentleman, the leader of the opposition, was seated at the time and not addressing the house. so whatever he said was not and is not audible on the house's audio visual record. as i have told the house, i neither saw the incident nor heard anything. it was for the same reasons neither heard nor seen by the clerks or by my private secretary. nor was there any immediate reaction in the house. i believe the allegation made by a numberof believe the allegation made by a number of honourable and right honourable members was based on the visual evidence from parliament tv. i also have to rely purely on visual evidence. i am i also have to rely purely on visual evidence. lam not i also have to rely purely on visual evidence. i am not a lip reader. 0r indeed a lip speaker. nobody can be 100% certain, that includes professional lip readers. but i will naturally take, and would be expected to take, the word of any right honourable or honourable member. it is reasonable to expect the house to do the same. i therefore invite the right honourable gentleman, who has at my request which turned to the house for this purpose, to make his explanation to the house, which againi explanation to the house, which again i expect to be heard without interruption. the leader of the opposition, jeremy corbyn. thank you, mr speaker. thank you for your invitation to come to make a short point to the house, which i am happy to do and have come immediately to do that. during prime minister‘s questions today, i refer to those who were seeking to turn a debate about the national crisis facing our country into a pantomime as stupid people. mr speaker, idid country into a pantomime as stupid people. mr speaker, i did not use the words stupid woman about the prime minister, or anyone else, and am completely opposed to the use of sexist or misogynistic language in absolutely any form at all. i am happy to place that on the record at your request this afternoon. thank you, mr speaker. jeremy corbyn there and we heard the speaker before that. in the past half—hour. .. former labour whip fiona onasanya has been found guilty of perverting the course ofjustice following an old bailey retrial for lying to police to avoid a speeding charge. our correspondent sophie long is live at the old bailey. you were in court. what happened ? you were in court. what happened? any last half—hour or so, she has been found by unanimous jury so, she has been found by unanimous jury of perverting the course of justice. . she made no reaction for we don‘t know when sentencing will be, but thejudge we don‘t know when sentencing will be, but the judge said, we don‘t know when sentencing will be, but thejudge said, you know we don‘t know when sentencing will be, but the judge said, you know the seriousness of what you have done. her nissan micra was caught doing 41 mph ina her nissan micra was caught doing 41 mph in a 30 zone in cape which are injuly last year. mph in a 30 zone in cape which are in july last year. she mph in a 30 zone in cape which are injuly last year. she was mph in a 30 zone in cape which are in july last year. she was found guilty of colluding with her brother in trying to avoid prosecution for that speeding offence. she said she was overwhelmed by her work as a new mp at the time, she was only elected six weeks previously, and she singly assumed she had been in westminster at the time. she said she left the notice of prosecution at her mother‘s house for her weather was driving the car to fill out. the authorities were told that a russian man, a former lodger of the family, had been behind the wheel, but further enquiries revealed he had beenin further enquiries revealed he had been in russia visiting his family at the time. her barrister in court put the blame on her brother who has admitted three counts of perverting the course of justice, admitted three counts of perverting the course ofjustice, including the event on the 24th ofjuly last year. thejury did not event on the 24th ofjuly last year. the jury did not believe that sequence of events and they found her guilty of perverting the course of justice. the her guilty of perverting the course ofjustice. thejudge her guilty of perverting the course ofjustice. the judge thanked them for their public service and for returning the verdict. he said it was not an easy verdict to deliver. also not an easy verdict for her to listen to. she was a trained solicitor and now a sitting mp. in terms of what this means for her future, that could have depended on what the sentences. any sitting mp, if they are sentenced to a custodial sentence, including a suspended sentence, including a suspended sentence of a year or more, they automatically have to vacate their seats. anything under that, it is slightly different. we have had a statement from the labour party, a spokes and has said that the labour party is deeply disappointed in her behaviour. it is below what they expect over politicians, she should resign now. it goes on to say she is being suspended from the labour party and therefore the whip with immediate effect for supper teams that her political career is over. on that point reyes there, as she said, the labour party are chucking her out, and are in the process of doing so for she would not be able to sit as a labour mp at westminster. in theory, she is entitled to continue as an mp until she is sentenced for that long. two recent cases from history where that applied, john stonehouse, a labour senior minister in the 1960s, who faked his own death in the 1970s was up faked his own death in the 1970s was up he was actually in australia and came back to this country, was convicted to seven years in prison. he resigned his seat as he was required to do. the other case was that of peter baker, who was an mp for norfolk, who was disqualified because of his conviction for forgery. both of those cases going back some years now. more recent cases have involved people being convicted and serving criminal sentences, but being too short for them to have to be required to lose their seat. if she gets a sentence, she will be automatically does qualify if it is more than a year, but she would not be a labour mp. time for a look at the weather. here‘s matt taylor. after the grim conditions of yesterday, it has been lovely to see some sunshine across the uk today. for some, it was punctuated by showers, some shower clouds earlier in the west of england. still further showers this afternoon into the evening across western parts of the evening across western parts of the uk, particularly the heavy one with the odd rumble of thunder. a big improvement on yesterday, temperatures between eight to 10 celsius for the vast majority. showers in the west will push further eastwards, most potent around the coast overnight. some clear skies in between. any lengthy speu clear skies in between. any lengthy spell of clear weather and the winds falling lighter, they could be a touch of frost into tomorrow morning. another cool morning commute. some showers across england, wales, western scotland in particular. the further south you are, the greater the lengths of sunshine through the day on thursday. showers more frequent for westerns, , thursday. showers more frequent for westerns,, northern thursday. showers more frequent for westerns, , northern ireland thursday. showers more frequent for westerns,, northern ireland and into north west england. heavy with hail and thunder. the wind coming from a south or south—westerly direction. blustery as the showers go through. temperatures between seven and 11 degrees for most of you. through thursday evening, they showers continue for a time in the north. they will fade away and then gathering rain clouds again. it looks like the main bulk of the wettest weather will be through the night, along with some windy conditions across england and wales. a slice of milder air for england. clear skies and lighter winds for the north. dry and bright for much of the day for early rain for the east of england clears for more or less everyone. there will be a weather front across the country. later, some heavy showers return to western parts of england and wales was that i contrast on friday, 13 in the south, nine in the north will stop the mild air continues into the weekend coupled with affronts trying to push their way northwards. the weekend forecast will be one of further rain at times with dry weather as well, certainly not a wash—out. temperatures on the climb as we go through this weekend. not what you want in the run—up to the festive period, but into the start of next week the mild weather clays away, and potentially something cooler for christmas day. goodbye for now. hello, you‘re watching afternoon live. i‘m shaun ley. today at 4: the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, denies calling therasa may a ‘stupid woman‘ during prime minister‘s questions. during the pmq s today, i referred to those who i believed were looking to those who i believed were looking to turn the debate into the national crisis facing our country as a pantomime, stupid people. labour suspends peterborough mp fiona onasanya, after she was found guilty of perverting the course ofjustice the government has set out its immigration policy for life after brexit. what matters most will be skills, not where people come from. coming up on afternoon live, all the sport, with katherine downs. hello. ole gunnar solskjar is the intergroup —— interim manchester —— interim manager of manchester united, he has six months to unite the club, get the players playing properly again. is he the right man for thejob? i properly again. is he the right man for the job? i will properly again. is he the right man for thejob? i will have more at half past. and matt taylor has all the weather. looks like the sunset is still with us. it is the forth crossing. a lovely sunny end to the day, showers in the west, they will feature tomorrow, i will tell you where you are more likely to get wet, in around half an hour. longbridge! i have learned my lesson. also coming up... a new banksy piece art has been discovered in port talbot. this was the art that was being destroyed. this is a new piece especially revealed. the details will be coming up later this hour. hello, everyone. this is afternoon live. i‘m shaun ley. jeremy corbyn has denied calling theresa may "a stupid woman" in the commons. speaking in the commons in the past half hour, the labour leader told mps he had said "stupid people" under his breath during prime minister‘s questions — after angry exchanges about mrs may‘s brexit deal. let‘s cross now to our political correspondent — iain watson — who joins us now from westminster. they had been talking about little else at westminster, have they drawn a line under this affair? no, i don‘t think they have. from the point of view of people in the commons, they are probably delighted to be speaking about something that is not simply brexit, although —— although that may have wanted the exchanges. with less than a week until christmas, there is not exactly a spirit of goodwill around these parts. what provokesjeremy corbyn into saying whatever he said was that his tail was being tweaked by the prime minister for having an honour of confidence vote in her or her government. and she effectively turned it into a mini pantomime season, very seasonal at this time of year. conservative mps shouting, oh, yes, he did! oh, no, he didn‘t! at the end of that exchange, he muttered whatever he muttered. he maintains he said stupid people. his detractors say he said, stupid woman. judge for yourself. i‘ve got some advice for the right honourable gentleman. look behind you. they‘re not impressed and neither is the country! jeremy corbyn saying stupid people, in his words, the other side of the house of commons suggesting he said, stupid woman. you make think that is the end of it. no, not a bit of it. the business of the house of commons this afternoon was effectively in meltdown. former foreign secretary margaret beckett said it was an organised riot on the conservative benches. questions came in and points of orderfrom benches. questions came in and points of order from people like patrick mcloughlin, former conservative party chair. that was not enough for them, a few of them turned on the speaker including the leader of the house andrea leadsom, who said john bercow previously called her stupid woman, and it was decided in the end to review the video evidence of whatjeremy corbyn had said in the house of commons before the speaker decided to take any action. so he went away as she would do in a world cup final and he obtained the video evidence and then he came back with his response, which some mps found unsatisfactory. having heard the allegation against the leader of the opposition and having watched the footage, it is easy to see why the leader of the opposition's words might be construed as stupid woman. that was also the opinion of lip speakers and i emphasise lip speakers rather than lip leaders, whose as vice was sought and obtained at short notice. —— advice. so they went as far as getting lip speakers into the house of commons to find out what the leader of the opposition had said, that is how seriously this was taken. but the verdict from john bercow was he himself was not a lip leader or a lip speaker and there was no audio of whatjeremy corbyn had said and he had not witnessed it so you he took the view you have to believe what an honourable member says, so what an honourable member says, so what did the honourable member the leader of the opposition say? he gave his own response afterjohn bercow delivered that verdict. during prime minister‘s question time today, i referred to those who i believed were looking to turn a debate about the national crisis facing our country into a pantomime as stupid people. mr speaker, i did not use the words stupid woman about the prime minister or anyone else andi the prime minister or anyone else and i am completely opposed to the use of sexist or misogynistic language and absolutely any form at all. iam happy language and absolutely any form at all. i am happy to place that on the record at your request this afternoon. thank you, mr speaker. jeremy corbyn adamant he referred to conservatives as stupid people rather than the prime minister is a stupid woman in particular. that is what he is maintaining. immediately after that, the scenes continued in the house of commons and two conservative mps effectively said they believed him. the speaker now hoping to draw a line under it that he was accused by another conservative mp, vicky ford, of calling her stupid woman previously. that is why it doesn‘t look like a lion is firmly in red and diverse. it looks like all the shows this time of year, it could run and run. thank you very much. let‘s turn to another story involving the labour party. the labour party has suspended the mp for peterborough, fiona onasanya, after she was found guilty of perverting the course of justice. the 35 year old, who won the marginal seat from the tories at the last election, was accused of lying about who was behind the wheel of a speeding car. a labour spokesman called for her to resign from the commons. our correspondent, sophie long, is at the old bailey and she gave us the latest from there. fiona onasa nya fiona onasanya has been found guilty bya fiona onasanya has been found guilty by a unanimous jury of perverting the course of justice. by a unanimous jury of perverting the course ofjustice. she was in court to hear that verdict, she made no reaction. we don‘t yet know when sentencing will be, but the judge said to her, you know the seriousness of what you had done. nsi micra was caught doing 41 mph in a13 nsi micra was caught doing 41 mph in a 13 hour per hour zone in cambridgeshire last year and she has bound just been found guilty of colluding with her brother festus are trying to avoid prosecution for that speeding offence. she said she was overwhelmed by her work as a new mp, she was only elected six weeks previously, and she simply assumed she had been in westminster at the time. she said she left the know as a prosecution at her mother‘s house and whoever was driving... the other it is were told a russian man, a former lodger of the family, had been behind the wheel, but further enquiries revealed he had been in russia visiting his own family at the time. onasa nya‘s russia visiting his own family at the time. onasanya‘s barrister put the time. onasanya‘s barrister put the blame on her brother festus who has admitted three counts of perverting the course ofjustice including the event onjuly the 24th last year, but the jury did not believe that sequence of events and they found her guilty of perverting they found her guilty of perverting the course of justice. they found her guilty of perverting the course ofjustice. the judge thanked them for their public service and for returning their verdict and he said it wasn‘t an easy verdict to deliver. also not an easy verdict to deliver. also not an easy verdict to deliver. also not an easy verdict for her to listen to. fiona onasa nya was easy verdict for her to listen to. fiona onasanya was a trained solicitor and now sitting mp. in terms of what this means for her future, that could have depended on what the sentence is. any sitting mp, if they are sentenced to a custodial sentence, including a suspended sentence of a year or more, they automatically have to vacate their seat. anything under that, it would have been slightly different. we have had a statement from the labour party, a spokesman has already said that the labour party is deeply disappointed in fiona onasa nya‘s party is deeply disappointed in fiona onasanya‘s behaviour, it falls well below what is expected politicians. she should resign now. it goes on to say, fiona onasanya is being administratively suspended from the labour party and therefore the whip with immediate effect. so it does seem at this stage that her political career certainly is over. from the old bailey. downing street has rejected a suggestion by the home secretary, sajid javid, that the government is dropping its commitment to keep net migration below 100,000, post—brexit. questioned this morning on bbc radio, mrjavid refused, seven times, to say whether he was committed to the target. which dates back to david cameron‘s time running the conservative party. today, the government unveiled a new system for immigration after brexit — which it says prioritises migrants‘ skills rather than where they come from. the plans mean workers from the eu will no longer have the automatic right to work in the uk after brexit. when he came to the commons in the past few hours to outline the plans to mps, the home secretary referred to bringing net migration down to sustainable levels. the future system is about making sure immigration works in the best interests of the uk. we are absolutely not closing our doors. we‘re simply making sure that we have control over who comes through them. ensuring, as we committed to do in our manifesto, that we are able to bring annual net migration down to more sustainable levels. our home affairs correspondent, danny shaw, gave me the details. net migration is the difference between immigration to the uk, so the number of people coming to live here for 12 months or more, and the number of people emigrating from britain. net migration was first set asa britain. net migration was first set as a target by david cameron, before the 2010 general election will stop he said it should be back down to levels that we in the 1990s of less than 100,000, ie the tens of thousands remains a manifesto commitment in 2015 and then in 2017, which is why the prime minister today said, yes, she still sticks to that target tens of thousands. even though it is a target that they haven‘t met and don‘t appear to be anywhere near meeting? lot of cabinet ministers and people in government say this is ridiculous, we nowhere near meeting that target. we are so far off. it isa that target. we are so far off. it is a crude device in a way for steering the government in a particular direction of trying to get immigration.. it is so far away, thatis get immigration.. it is so far away, that is why some cabinet ministers don‘t really want to talk about that target, they prefer to talk about sustainable levels because that is more general. and it is very striking today on the day we have the white paper, the blueprint for the white paper, the blueprint for the immigration system, there is not one mention of bringing it down to tens of thousands or under 1,000. six references to sustainable levels, which is what sajid javid the home secretary prefers to talk about, but no mention of tens of thousands. no mention what sustainable could be, then. one criticism conservative used to make of labour in government was its use of health targets in government and they say the problem is that target ends up distorting the policy, to what extent has that been true in migration? certainly through the windrush affair, we saw what with removable targets, where you had people rounded up and detained in immigration centres or deported who had a right to stay in the uk. i think that is one of the reasons why sajid javid in this immigration paper says there is no targets whatsoever in this paper and there is not that principle net migration target. what we have instead is a new system that is designed principally to ensure that skilled workers can come to the uk from the eu and also from outside the eu, there will be numbers. the salary threshold, the amount they have to earn in order to qualify to come here, well, there has been a recommendation that should be £30,000, but it is a source of dispute so it will be consulted on. and there is also going to be a route for people who do not have skilled work, people who come here and they might want to do jobs skilled work, people who come here and they might want to dojobs in the hospitality sector serving in restau ra nts, clea ni ng the hospitality sector serving in restaurants, cleaning up, those sorts ofjobs, restaurants, cleaning up, those sorts of jobs, they restaurants, cleaning up, those sorts ofjobs, they can come here for 12 months, there will be no restrictions on them coming here, but they have to leave after 12 months although there is a possibility they could switch at some point into another route. now, thatis some point into another route. now, that is very important because people were worried that without those unskilled workers, businesses and public services could suffer. the issue of immigration was a key issue at the 2016 referendum. so what are people in parts of uk where there was a large leave vote making of these proposals? our correspondent sarah ransome is in torquay. hello again. it is even more blowy, the winds changing on this issue of migration? yes, the winds of change and the reigns of change certainly have swept him across the bay this afternoon. this is a part of the south—west that voted very firmly to leave the eu. just over 60% of those who voted in the referendum said they wanted the uk to sever its links with the uk. they didn‘t want it to be part of that club any more. this is a part of the world that relies heavily on tourism, hospitality, and of course with an elderly demographic, it also a tt ra cts elderly demographic, it also attracts a lot of migrant workers who work in the care sector. so, for those braving the elements this afternoon, walking their dog or out taking a constitutional before the rains arrived, this is what they had to say and gave their reaction on the seafront this afternoon.” really feel that at the beginning of brexit, everyone was voting to come out of the european union for the immigrant side of things. and i think now that they are trying to bring this in to pacify what eve ryo ne bring this in to pacify what everyone is thinking, oh, my god, we voted to come out because of the immigration situation but now they are deciding to bring it in to try and pacify the people. and how does that sit with you? i think, the same as with all politics, j told one thing and another thing happens. i just feel it is very sad it has come to this situation that they are just trying to swap their minds all the time to suit people so that they stay in power. there was a lot of debate here among the people i spoke to on the seafront this afternoon. a lot of debate about what should be happening, what might be happening. most of all, people wanted to get it sorted. they said this is an area that relies on that migrant workforce, but they said they should really be allowing british workers to do britishjobs. there is clearly a lot of debate still to be had on that. a lot of details. but here, as in westminster, that discussion will continue. thank you so much for braving the awful weather this afternoon. warm up awful weather this afternoon. warm up and get dry, take care. let‘s return now to news that low—skilled workers from eu countries will no longer have the automatic right to work in the uk after brexit, under proposed new immigration rules announced by the home secretary today — after a long delay. our reality check correspondent chris morris is here. so, over two years on from the referendum, explain to us the uk‘s current immigration figures. ina sense, in a sense, they may be trying to reduce it, but there were not terribly successful. it is interesting because we have not left the eu yet so the free movement of people from the eu continues, but how significant is that now in the overall net migration figures? we have a graph here. the line you see their is net migration from the rest of the world, from non—eu countries into the uk. at the end, june 2018, it is that about 248,000. this is net migration from the eu, the blue line. you can see the dotted line at june 2016 is the referendum. after that, net migration from the eu has fallen sharply. in june that, net migration from the eu has fallen sharply. injune 2018, net migration from the rest of the eu into the uk was 74,000. so if you end free movement of people from the eu, you are making no dent whatsoever into that green line, which is about three times as many people coming into the country. the other part of the net migration figures, the orange line at the bottom, that is british people leaving the country. 49,000 more uk citizens emigrating then uk citizens coming back. the overall net migration figure in the year tojune 2018 is 273,000. but about three quarters of those are nothing to do with free movement from the eu, they are from the rest of the world. so if the idea is ending free movement brings us closer to this net migration target of the tens of thousands, there is a bit of a disconnect. the referendum has already had a significant effect. those are the figures, let‘s talk about this policy of what will happen after brexit. there is tension in government over this question of a salary threshold. the point at which people will be eligible to work in particularjobs to be allowed to come here and take up to be allowed to come here and take up thosejobs. to be allowed to come here and take up those jobs. yes, fair to say more than a bit of tension, a lot of tension, which has delayed this white paper by some time. it is a £30,000 salary threshold and that is for skilled workers wanting to come to this country on a five—year visa. the problem is a lot of people in a lot of sectors have said that is pretty high. if you are an unskilled worker from the pretty high. if you are an unskilled workerfrom the eu, you will find it difficult to come to the uk in the future. we have nhs starting salaries, health care assistants, £17,500. auxiliary nursing jobs. dental nurses, £20,000. i don‘t know about you, i want anyone going into my mouth in a dental surgery to have some skills! biomedical scientist. the people who do the science behind the treatment we get in the nhs, starting salary £28,000. people like this would find it very difficult to come to the uk under this scheme and the estimates we have seen from the nhs and others is perhaps as many as four out of five eu citizens who currently work in the nhs and in the ca re currently work in the nhs and in the care sector overall would not be able to come if this 30,000 salary threshold was commented. very striking hearing from danny mortimore from the nhs employers earlier saying we don‘t like this conflation of skills and salary because in our business, yes, we would love to pay people more, but they are skilled people and we need them. it comes down to the definition of a skill, doesn‘t mean you have had to train for years at university? some people are very skilled without having much formal training. there will be exemptions and there are already some with specific shortages in certain areas, exemptions are made currently for people from outside the eu and i am sure the same will be done within the eu. if you have exemptions within the nhs, what happens within the construction, retail, hospitality sectors? areas of the economy which say they rely on migrant labourand at economy which say they rely on migrant labour and at the moment, most of it is from the eu. if that numberfor sharply, most of it is from the eu. if that number for sharply, the imprecation is more people will have to come in from elsewhere in the world, not cutting immigration. people will have heard this afternoon in the interview we did, i put to danny your point about exemptions and surely they will offer exemptions and she said, that‘s true, the government did give us an exemption when we had a shortage of doctors and it took about six months for the system to respond to the request. that is the fear in a lot of sectors, you need an agile response to changes in the economy and demand for things like new homes will stop six months is a bit too long for it to filter through. it is quite a long time. the other point is whether it is in the nhs or elsewhere, the new system that appears, we appear to be moving toward this white paper, essentially encourages lower skilled people, maybe people with skills we need in the nhs, but lower skilled, to only come for short periods of time, maybe 12 months. it is much less attractive, people will not want to come. if you say you can come for 12 months and then you have to go again just as you have established a life and a foothold, you are not going to do it. it is the balance between the control of immigration which is one of the lessons the government is taken from the referendum and keeping the economy moving. chris norris, thank you so much. as ever. the scottish first minister is at downing street this afternoon for a mini summit of the uk nations on the prospects for brexit. she‘ll be talking to reporters shortly on what‘s been discussed at number ten. let‘s talk to our political correspondent nick eardley, he is at downing street now. these are routine meetings but the circumstances are anything but. yes, to the extent that anything can be regular right now in westminster. these meetings go on all the time, but they have that added pressure because the prime minister is trying desperately to try and win over some of the devolved governments to her plan. it is part of a strategy to spend the next few weeks telling as many people as possible what is in this dealfor them. i have got to say i think this is about as hard sell as it will get for the minister. scottish first minister nicola sturgeon and snp leader has been one of the most vocal critics of what theresa may is proposing. before this meeting, she said the prime minister was trying to win down the clock and take options away from mps and she wants article 50, today we leave the european union to be put back. and just last night, her party in the house of commons we re her party in the house of commons were putting down a motion of no confidence in the government. that will not be heard, but it is a sign of how much that criticism from the mrs may —— from the snp has ramped up mrs may —— from the snp has ramped up in recent days. for her part, you will hear theresa may saying to these leaders from scotland and wales, look, companies and businesses where you operate like this deal. they have backed it, they have told us things they think are good about it and for that reason, you need to get behind it. and as i say, i think it is a hard sell. yes, it certainly sounds like it. we have got the scottish first minister, we have a new labour first minister in cardiff, we have obviously got arlene foster although there is the devolved government which is suspended so presumably it doesn‘t ta ke suspended so presumably it doesn‘t take part in these things at the moment, different pressures and different interests about how brexit could work out around the uk. yes, absolutely, very different positions on what the prime minister needs to change over the next few weeks to have even a remote possibility of getting her brexit deal through parliament. you hear that pressure down the road in the house of commons every day. over the last few days, there has been a slightly different atmosphere with tory mps who have been hugely critical of the prime minister being a bit less so. iam not prime minister being a bit less so. i am not sure that is because opposition to the controversial parts of her deal is softening, that people who don‘t like her deal still don‘t like her deal, but i think there is some sense that the prime minister should be given a bit of space over the next few weeks to try and get those assurances. she has spoken repeatedly about the irish backstop issue to try and win over the dup and win back some of her own backbenchers. labour are extremely unhappy and we saw that again today, although it has been overshadowed by the row over whatjeremy corbyn did or didn‘t say. the main message he was trying to get over today was he still does not like the deal or have much faith in the government to get the assurances needed to get this through the house of commons. so pressure in there from the devolved government. but pressure, huge pressure down the road to try and get something that will get through parliament. from westminster, thank you very much. if we do see nicola sturgeon, and i was go —— and i was hoping she would come out then so i could shout, she‘s behind you! sadly, no for that. but if she is appearing, we will bring you what she has to say. somebody who has appeared is mapped. hello again. i wrote it down and i have now lost my piece of paper, was it ssw? ssw, sudden stratospheric warming. i will stick to ssw! it is quite a complex science but let‘s most of us want snow in the run—up to christmas. as we said, it is very unlikely. that is still the case, but now showing up on the computer models is what could happen at the end of the month. let me take you further into space than our normal weather patterns. you may have heard of the polar vortex where the air is circulating around anticlockwise, bringing in cold weather. the direction of the winds matches that of the jet stream blowing from west to east which brings normal wet, windy, changeable weather. and the warm air in the south—west. exactly, it reinforces that. showing up exactly, it reinforces that. showing up in the forecast, more likelihood the low pressure system splits into two and that stops this west to east flow and the jet stream gets a bit wea ker flow and the jet stream gets a bit weaker and it could allow easterly winds to develop. at this time of year, into winter, easterly winds come from scandinavia, siberia where it is already bitterly cold and courage during the second half of winter introduced very cold, quite severe. but very crucial exactly how that split occurs, it depends how the weather is affected here. you have told us about the long—term and medium term, what about the short term? better than yesterday, anyway! tomorrow will be the same. this is what we could see towards the end of the winter. this is how we finish this afternoon across the firth of forth, lovely sunshine across the bridges. many eastern areas, fine end to the day, much better than yesterday. shower showing up across the west, splashes of blue, heavy and laundry across kent and sussex. showers transfer further north and east overnight, so anyone placed not com pletely east overnight, so anyone placed not completely immune but fewer showers compared to the west. if you get clear spells tonight and tomorrow, temperatures will drop quite markedly down to one or 2 degrees and there could be frost for tomorrow morning. but it is going to bea tomorrow morning. but it is going to be a little bit of sunshine, quite a bit of cloud and showers to stop. in the south, showers fewer in number with more sunshine, further north and west of scotland and northern ireland and north west england, showers feeding throughout the day, some of them heavy and country. a bit of a breeze from the south—west but nothing too substantial. eastern areas should always stay dry compared to the west. temperatures at 6-11d. compared to the west. temperatures at 6—11d. starting to come into shot by the end of the day, more cloud spreading into devon and cornwall and the channel ireland and south wales, outbreaks of rain. linked in to this weather system which three thursday night brings wet and windy weather across england and wales. the heavy rain clearing from the south east corner and east anglia first thing, leaving a trail in weather front, northern england first thing, leaving a trail in weatherfront, northern england and scotla nd weatherfront, northern england and scotland and northern ireland, a damp day with rain and drizzle. north of it, a frosty start, but a dry and bright today, sunshine for the midlands and wales and the south and heavy showers from the west. temperatures again around 7—11d for many but milder across the south at 12, 13. if you many but milder across the south at 12,13. if you are many but milder across the south at 12, 13. if you are out christmas shopping this weekend, a very mixed weather charter. a bit of a mess with lots of weather france, low— pressure with lots of weather france, low—pressure in charge, outbreaks of rain, heaviest and most persistent on sunday. brighter moments as well but you might notice as well as a breeze the temperatures are on the rise. meld into this weekend, but towards christmas day, there is a little bit of good news and festive cheer from the forecast, something a bit cooler heading our way and may be frost for christmas morning. bye— bye be frost for christmas morning. bye — bye for be frost for christmas morning. bye—bye for now. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, denies calling theresa may a "stupid woman" during prime minister‘s questions. labour suspends peterborough mp fiona onasanya, after she‘s found guilty of perverting the course ofjustice the government has set out its immigration policy for the uk after brexit. they say what matters will be skills, not where people come from. coming in up in news nationwide — the street artist banksy confirms he‘s created a new piece of art on the side of a garage in port talbot. sport now on afternoon live with katherine downes. we talked about the interim manager at manchester united already. we had at manchester united already. we had a statement in the last hour from the outgoing manager, the last thoughts of jose the outgoing manager, the last thoughts ofjose mourinho. yes, we saw him waste away after 2.5 yea rs yes, we saw him waste away after 2.5 years in charge. he has been doorstep to buy reporters in london today. he did not say much, just that it today. he did not say much, just thatitis today. he did not say much, just that it is game over for him at manchester united, which we knew yesterday when he was sacked. he is back home in london today. he has broken his silence in the last half—hour or so. he says... iimagine he i imagine he will enjoy his christmas. the pain and suffering of fa ns christmas. the pain and suffering of fans and jose mourinho himself, because he did not look happy by the end, is over and because he did not look happy by the end, is overand he because he did not look happy by the end, is over and he will enjoy his christmas in london. he did not look happy! i remembered his last news conference when he glowered at the cameras before he left. we found out who hit the interim replacement is by replacement, because somebody at manchester united who looks after their social media was a bit too efficient. and the prime minister of norway as well tweeted to confirm it, quickly deleting it. she was able to confirm it again later. she said it was a great day for norwegian football. it is ole gunnar solskjaer, who was on a loan for six months. he will be going back. he spent 11 seasons at united, he is a legend of the club, to rediscover the manchester way. passion, attacking football, and kind of inspiring those big—name players to get behind the badge once again. we heard as well from other players. henning berg used to play at united and for norway with solskjaer. he has trained paul pogba, and knows him personally, so that is a big help. he knows some of the other players as well. i think that will not be a problem at all. we will see some of the players happy, smiling, and back to having more energy, back to their best level. a number of solskjaer‘s former team—mates have been reacting on social media today to solskjaer‘s appointment. rio ferdinand posted a picture of the pair celebrating a goal with the words, "let‘s go ole — united!" david beckham posted a picture of solskjaer with the simple message, "good luck, ole." gary neville got a bit emotional, admitting, "i heart ole gunnar and hope he‘s amazing and wish him all the best." a former norway team—mate also says, that‘s just insane! i wish a former norway team—mate also says, that‘sjust insane! i wish him a former norway team—mate also says, that‘s just insane! i wish him all the best. i think it means insane in the best. i think it means insane in the best. i think it means insane in the best possible way. two former wales captains have been named as assistants to the incoming head coach wayne peevac. stephen jones and jonathan humphreys will join the set up when peevac takes over from warren gatland after next year‘s world cup. ex—fly—half jones won 104 caps for his country — he said he was looking forward to what he hoped would be an exciting period in welsh rugby. lewis hamilton says he "chose the wrong words" after insulting his hometown. he described stevenage as a "slum" during sports personality of the year, and got plenty of criticism — including from the local council. but hamilton says he just made a mistake. please, if you again have your feelings about a mistake i made onstage, don‘t bother with it — put it to the side. it‘s negative energy you don‘t need to hold. i am proud of where i come from, and i represent that in the best way, always. nobody is perfect, i definitely make mistakes often. in particular when you are in front of the crowd, trying to find the right words to express yourjourney in life, i chose the wrong words. i didn‘t mean anything by it. those of you who know me know i always mean love. god bless you, have a great day. i wonder if stevenage will show him some sympathy. that‘s all the sport for now. we‘ll have more for you in the next hour. now on afternoon live, let‘s go nationwide and see what‘s happening around the country in our daily visit to the bbc newsrooms around the uk. let‘s go to amy garcia in leeds where look north have been speaking to a sheffield mum who is calling for more support and awareness about a severe form of autism, after her son was excluded from school four times in the last year. and huw thomas is in cardiff for us, where wales today have been down in port talbot, where residents have discovered a new work by the enigmatic street artist banksy. let‘s talk to amy first. we have this case of a mother who is raising awareness of pda. what can you tell us about that? it isa what can you tell us about that? it is a rare condition called pathological demand avoidance, or pda. it can lead to people reacting violently without any warning. it is a rare form of autism. from the outside, no one looks like an average seven—year—old one minute and he can switch into quite a naughty, disruptive child. in fact, he has a rare form of autism and his anxiety can result in violent behaviour, in swearing and running away from school. his mum says that at any point she can receive a call from his school to say he needs collecting. on this occasion, when we we re collecting. on this occasion, when we were filming, he had run to a building site and there were eight memos of staff surrounding the area, but he refused to leave. he was diagnosed with pda last year, and his mum is calling for more awareness and support. what i need and what the other pda parents need is recognition of this condition because, as it stands, unless it is recognised by your council, your government, your schools, all it looks like isjust a naughty child or a naughty adult. without the support, their social ability won't develop and they won't learn how to live in society. you can imagine the frustration there. what other specialists saying? autism seems largely recognised, but pda isn‘t. diane says it can be wearing on family life and many parents struggle to hold down a job because of the co nsta nt hold down a job because of the constant disruption at school. doctorjudy eaton is a psychologist who is calling for more research into the condition. they are not just naughty children for the majority of them want to do well, they want to behave. but when the anxiety and stress levels become too great, it tips over into what can be seen as challenging behaviour. noor receives one—to—one tuition, but they don‘t know how to deal with his anxiety. the school say they do all they can to support families but do not comment on individual cases was that we will have more on this at 6:30pm this evening, and we will also have some festive cheer as well. thank goodness for we will look forward to that. thank you. in cardiff is hugh thomas. tell us about this banksy. when did it appear? it showed up yesterday morning, and it appeared on social media, with people speculating it was a banksy. the man who owns the garage found out on social media, and he was pretty convinced this morning that it was a banksy. when you look at the image, it is a boy embracing the snow, but you look around the corner and there is a burning skip, the ash from it is what is falling on the boy. nobody has come forward to say they have seen it being painted. we think it went up overnight on monday night. there were lots of people down there today, taking selfies in front of it. the owner of the garage has been up it. the owner of the garage has been up all night, guarding it, he said, protecting it. he wanted to preserve it there. when i had some words from him, he seemed keen not to have it taken away. i'm very pleased, and i think it's a smashing bit of art work, and it's good for the town and ijust want to protect it so it's here for everybody. that is the garage owner. what do locals think of it? most of the people i met were all convinced that it was a banksy. not many of them were self—confessed ba nksy many of them were self—confessed banksy experts, but they certainly thought it had the hallmarks of it. the council soon turned up. with the old days, they might have tried to get rid of it, but they turned up in a big 8—foot high fence around it, to give it some protection. so until he comes out to say he has done it, it was all speculation. in the last hour, the artist has posted a video to say it is his work. one of the people there this morning looking at it was nigel hunt, a local councillor but also a street art expert himself. he thought it was a good addition to the local art scene. it's political, it's a bit of satire, it's tongue—in—cheek. i think it's got all the traits, all the nuance of a banksy piece. this is why i'm delighted, he's the best known british street artist, and he's bestowed on us a great christmas present for the community. plenty of people going to see it today. the fences around it. what happens next is probably up to the garaged owner. he will be thinking about the options he has, knowing that plenty of these works have been taken down and sold on the art market. i hope that doesn't happen in port talbot. in my old neck of the words, they painted over one of the words, they painted over one of the banksy pieces not long ago. there were red faces all around! viewers around the country, you can go nationwide at 6:30pm this evening. if you would like to see more on any of those stories, you can more on any of those stories, you ca n a ccess more on any of those stories, you can access them via the bbc iplayer. a reminder that we go nationwide every weekday afternoon at 4:30pm here on afternoon live. the voice of simon mccoy, he is a lwa ys the voice of simon mccoy, he is always there, watching over us. more now on brexit, and yesterday the government set out contingency plans for a no—deal withdrawal from the eu. air travel is one area likely to be affected if no agreement between the uk and the eu is reached. our europe reporter, gavin lee, went to amsterdam‘s schiphol airport to explore what might happen if the uk doesn‘t get a deal. there are 5 million brits who passed through here each year for work, there are 5 million brits who passed through here each yearfor work, for pleasure and also to transit elsewhere. in the event of britain leaving the eu with no deal, what next? i have no idea what will happen, if truth be told. i expect that the airlines have got something planned and that, whatever happens with brexit, it will continue to fly. i think what will happen is we will have a lot of delays at customs and check—in. it will make it more difficult to fly to europe, that is my sense was up we talk about it a lot and if anything it will put us off travel certainly for the next year or two. we are planning to do a lot less travel within europe, simply because it will be chaotic. the reality is that air travel will be affected. all the systems in place for decades the aviation security will come to an end. the eu is coming up with a system for some breathing space so that britain is a one—stop security system so the flights can continue. the concerns should be at the airlines. they need the pilots who fly the planes, and this could take a few months, so they will have a paid holiday. in they will have a paid holiday. in the midst of the christmas cheer, behind the scenes don‘t security offices are being trained to deal with a no deal consequence for passengers, delays caused by customs checks as britain becomes a third country outside the eu. it is more red tape, more requirements for customs documents, and part of the problem is that what the commission has announced so far, they made it clear it would be unilateral decisions, temporarily, until the end of the year, and then they could revoke it at any points will stop the current mantra from across the eu is they are preparing for the worst but hoping for the best. deal or no deal, one thing in 2019 that all changes this, the passport will be in the queue and it will be blue. if your passport expires in the year to come, the current mantra is it is as you well for now until further advice was not the tech entrepreneur, elon musk, has been showing off the first tunnel built by his company to try to solve the congestion problem in los angeles. mr musk says commuters will one day use automated cars to cross the city in a series of tunnels, travelling at very high speeds. our correspondent, peter bowes, has peered inside. a new way to get around. a tunnel that transports ca rs and passengers at speeds of up to 150 mph. the one—mile stretch snakes its way under a city street to the south of los angeles. shrouded in secrecy up until now, this is elon musk‘s pet project. built by the billionaire entrepreneur‘s construction outfit, known as the boring company, the goal is to solve the problem of chronic traffic congestion. wouldn‘t it be incredible if you could travel around la, new york, dc, chicago, paris, london, anywhere, at 150 mph? it would be phenomenal. i mean, traffic is soul destroying. it‘s like acid on the soul. it‘s horrible! it must go away! this is the start of the tunnel. it‘s a very narrow tunnel, just wide enough for a family car, in this case a modified tesla model x. to get through this tunnel it has what they call alignment wheels on the front that keep it on track as it‘s heading through this stretch of tunnel which is just over a mile long. eventually, there could be hundreds of miles connecting neighbourhoods in this sprawling city. it could ease the pain of millions on their daily commute. as long as it doesn't have any detrimental effect on the environment, i think that would be a good idea because we have had a lot of issues with traffic. i mean, personally, coming from san diego, i have a lot of issues coming here with all the traffic. so, if it works, i'm all for it. there are other alternatives. there is a high—speed rail. i used to live injapan and i think that... that's also worth exploring. the unveiling of this futuristic tunnel is being closely watched by transport industry analysts. but is it realistic? elon musk has this amazing ability to put on a great show and make a project look like it is the shiny, glossy, finished thing. but, in reality, what he has unveiled is a concrete tunnel. it could be a sewer. it is painted nicely in white. he‘s got an awful long way to go from translating that into a citywide transportation network. elon musk says he hopes a network of tunnels will be running in los angeles by the time the city hosts the olympic games in 2028. while some observers are sceptical, this may be the dawning of a new era in fast, environmentally friendly transport. intriguing. we are discussing what happens when you breakdown, or a bit claustrophobic. what you make of that? it's not for me, to be honest. i don‘t do tunnels easily for i like the open spaces was very wise with we have a nice open space here in the bbc knew broadcasting house was up i do have headlines to do. i will come back to you. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, denies calling theresa may a "stupid woman" during prime minister‘s questions. labour suspends peterborough mp fiona onasanya, after she‘s found guilty of perverting the course ofjustice the government has set out its immigration policy for the uk after brexit. they say what matters will be skills, not where people come from. here‘s your business headlines on afternoon live. uk inflation has fallen to its lowest rate since early 2017 according to the latest official figures. the office for national statistics says that slowing price rises could bring some relief to consumers who have recently cut down on spending. average prices rose by 2.3% over the year, the lowest since march 2017. staying with the same mobile phone contract, insurer or mortgage provider for years on end, could cost thousands in extra charges according to the financial regulator. the competition and markets authority found that companies in five key markets are charging their loyal customers too much, and offering discounts to win new customers. it‘s now vowed to clampdown on the so—called "loyalty surcharge". drug giants glaxosmithkline and pfizer are to combine their consumer healthca re businesses into one firm with annual sales of £9.8 billion. the move, which still needs to be approved by shareholders, will bring together painkiller brands panadol and anadin as well as aquafresh toothpaste and chapstick lip balm. just what we need at this time of year! what are you saying? ami what are you saying? am i giving you a headache? no, i was talking about the lips, with the easterly wind. is anyone bothering? or have they left for the holiday? trading is thin. there is less buying and selling because there are fewer people around. however, those who are around will have seen glaxosmithkline. glaxosmithkline is still the largest riser. i know one person who hasn‘t gone on holiday yet. james hughes, chief market analyst, axi trader. surely it is time for you to go on holiday can have a party? you would think so, but not until we have covered today‘s stories was up the federal reserve. i know you are waiting for this, not because of what they are going to do today, but what they are going to do today, but what they are going to tell us about where the well‘s biggest economy is heading in the coming months. today‘s fed rate decision is probably one of the last big offence of the year that we get from a macroeconomic point of view. what we expect them to do later on today is raise interest rates. we expect to raise interest rates. we expect to raise them by 25 basis points. that is not the big thing the markets will look at, because the market already expects that to happen. what we wa nt already expects that to happen. what we want to hear from the fed tonight if you want to hear exactly how much ofan if you want to hear exactly how much of an effect these big headwinds we have got in the markets are going to have got in the markets are going to have an effect on the us economy next year. this is the big deal. we have a situation where the us and china are still deadlocked in talks within this 90 day truce they have. we have turmoil on the stock markets, we have seen big falls in the last few weeks. the oil price languishes at low levels, and there isa languishes at low levels, and there is a worry about an economic slowdown. with all of those factors, we wa nt slowdown. with all of those factors, we want the fed to really reassure everyone, to say that things are not as bad as they seem, we are still raising rates and things look positive. it is whether they will come out and say that. 0k, come out and say that. ok, thank you. let‘s go to downing street. nicola sturgeon hasjust emerged from her meeting with the prime minister to discuss the consequences of brexit. the proposals in the white paper demonstrate an act of vandalism on the scottish economy. we need to attract people to live and work in scotland, yet the proposals in this paper estimate that eu immigration will reach 85% for it will depress economic growth and reduce revenue. the impact will be devastating. it would also deprive us of talented individuals who enrich our society. i made those views clear to the prime minister today. they are echoed by businesses and interests across scotland, and i hope we see a significant change to the government's thinking? is there a nyway government's thinking? is there anyway the prime minister will get the support of the snp for her deal and getting it through parliament? snp will not vote for the deal the prime minister has put forward. we make the reasons for that clear. it takes scotland out of the eu against our will, it takes us out of the customs union, it gives us no clarity about the future relationship. it potentially puts scotland at a competitive disadvantage to northern ireland, which will have an impact on jobs and investment. the scottish people not vote for that. we argue that article 50 should be extended so no deal is taken off the table and time is given for parliament to look at the alternatives to the deal will stop our preference is for another referendum, to give people the opportunity, knowing what they now know after their last 2.5 years, to change their minds. what do you make of whatjeremy corbyn is said to have said this afternoon, about the stupid woman? i have not personally seen the footage, so i am not able to give my ownjudgment on seen the footage, so i am not able to give my own judgment on whether he did ordid to give my own judgment on whether he did or did not say that. if he did say it, i don't think that is an a cce pta ble did say it, i don't think that is an acceptable comment and he should apologise for it. there is something ironic and perhaps galling to hear tories, who defend the right clause, to pretend they have suddenly found feminism. if he said that, he should apologise and everyone should move on. these issues are a distraction from the main issue, which is working out how we find a way through this sorry brexit mess. can we quickly ask about immigration again. polls suggest that scotland has concerns over high levels of immigration as well. what makes you think that what the government is proposing today is bad for scotland? it is bad for scotland because the evidence says it will be bad for scotland. it is an emotive subject. politicians have a duty to sometimes ta ke politicians have a duty to sometimes take on difficult subjects and set out the reasons to the population of why we think proposals are bad. the scottish government modelled a 50% reduction in immigration, and what that would do. it would take us from a position of having a population of the increase into a decline. that would be bad enough. this paper says that the proposals would reduce eu migration into scotland by 85%. it would be devastating forjobs, the economy, for living standards, the income of the country. it would also, as i said, deprive us of people who make a contribution to life in scotland. ending freedom of movement takes away all of our rights to live and study and work across the eu. it is a retrograde step. i across the eu. it is a retrograde step. lam across the eu. it is a retrograde step. i am standing on her doorstep right now, but without being rude about it, it is beyond me that any prime minister would want to have as their legacy turning the uk inward and making it less open and welcoming to people from the rest of the world. the first minister of scotla nd the world. the first minister of scotland in downing street after a meeting with the prime minister in downing street. thank you for your company. the big story was the conviction of the labour mp. more on that in is at five, coming up next. today at 5. .. a furious row erupts in parliament over whether or not the labour leader called the prime minister a "stupid woman". they are not impressed and neither is the country. jeremy corbyn denies using the phrase and claims he said "stupid people" in response to theresa may. i did not use the words "stupid woman" about the prime minister or anyone else and am completely opposed to the use of sexist or misogynist language in absolutely any form at all. we‘ll have the latest reaction, and discussing politics and sexism with the campaigner, caroline criado perez. the other main stories on bbc news at 5. the government sets out its immigration policy for the uk after brexit. ministers say it will be skills that matter from now on

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