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Its sunday the 28th of october. Our top story. A helicopter has crashed and burst into flames only minutes after taking off from the ground of Leicester City Football Club. The bbc has been told that the owner of the club, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, was on board but so far there has been no official confirmation. Our reporter Simon Clemison has the latest. The shock. Oh, my god. A helicopters just crashed next to the stadium. The confusion. All weve seen was the helicopter above the football ground, spiralling, like out of control. And then weve just seen it hit the floor, a big ball of fire just went up. It was absolutely awful. Some even thought they may be able to help. I tried to get in there, but i couldnt see anyone. About an hour after the match, this was the scene in the car park to the rear of Leicester Citys football ground. The owners helicopter had just taken off from inside, as it does following every home game. Moments later, eyewitnesses said the aircraft cleared the stadium but then everything fell silent and it came down like a stone. Leicester city has been riding high recently. In 2016, the foxes won the premier league from odds of 5000 1. Their owner, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, has poured millions into the club. Watched him take off, literally walked up the road, bit of a. Bit of a boom. Probably the darkest day in Leicester City Football Clubs history. Match of the day presenter and former leicester player gary lineker said last nights programme was the most difficult he had ever hosted. And leicesters star striker jamie vardy sent this tweet. Leicestershire police said the air Accident Investigation Branch would be leading the inquiry into the circumstances of the crash, adding that a cordon would remain in place while inspectors examine the scene. Our reporter Simon Clemison is outside the king power stadium in leicester this morning. Leicester city fans waking up to what appears to be very grim news. Yes, a very sombre mood here. The crash happened, we buy the stadium, it happened to the back of the ground over there and what we have seen this morning is fans coming here with flowers to lay them here. It isa here with flowers to lay them here. It is a sombre morning after a sombre night. Many fans had gone by the time the crash happened but they came back, they were here, we have been here throughout the night, all very concerned. They have built up a huge rapport with Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. He has huge affection for them and they fear him. He buys them a pint on his birthday and mince pies at christmas. He is a huge figure in the city and as you suggest we do not have official confirmation but the bbc now understands he was in the bbc now understands he was in the helicopter and that is causing a huge amount of anxiety in the city. Thank you, simon. Prosecutors in the United States have charged a man with 29 offences including hate crimes and murder in connection with a mass shooting at a synagogue in pittsburgh. 11 people died after a gunman opened fire during morning service. Six others were wounded. The suspect has been named as 46 year old Robert Bowers. Our washington correspondent Gary Odonoghue reports. Just a few short hours after the hate filled murder of 11 jewish worshippers, hundreds of people from this Community Came to grieve and to comfort one another. Some chose to speak up, some to stand and remain silent, all still in shock and disbelief over the horror of what had taken place. All day, the police were at the scene of the shooting, meticulously gathering their evidence. The sheer scale and brutality of the crime becoming clearer by the minute. Later in the evening, Robert Bowers was indicted, with 29 separate charges laid against him. Many accusing him of murder motivated by religious hatred. Announcer donald] trump donald trump was out election campaigning in illinois, announcing his intention to travel to pittsburgh in the coming days. Hes also ordered flags to be flown at half mast at the white house and other federal buildings for the next four days. This evil anti semitic attack is an assault on all of us. Its an assault on humanity. Later, the names of those who died will be released. And the fbi are expected to answer questions about how someone with such a flagrantly anti semitic Online Presence wasnt picked up. The authorities here sayjustice will be swift and severe. But for the Jewish Community of squirrel hill, its going to take a long, long time to come to terms of how someone could commit such a hate filled crime. Gary odonoghue, bbc news, pittsburgh, pennsylvania. Sir philip green has again denied allegations he racially and sexually abused former employees. The businessman told the mail on sunday newspaper there had only been some banter which had never been offensive. He had been granted an injunction banning the publication of the allegations, but the labour peer lord hain named him in parliament. Sir philip says the last week has been the worst of his life. The former england and tottenham manager glenn hoddle is responding well to treatment after being taken to hospital in a serious condition yesterday. Hoddle, who won 53 england caps and was celebrating his 6ist birthday, is considered to be one of the best players of his generation. He was taken ill after appearing as a pundit for bt sport. The number of hit and run crashes has risen by almost half in the past four years, the bbc has learned. There were more than 28,000 cases last year in england and wales and road safety campaigners are calling for longer prison sentences. John maguire reports. His family described him as a gentle giant, but alfie 0keefe hedges was just 16 years old when he was knocked off his moped by a hit and run driver in north london two years ago. They just left my son. They basically got out of the car and ran, and didnt even go out and hold his hand, sit with him, theyjust ran. Theyjust ran and left him there to die. Nine days after the collision, alfie died in hospital. The driver pleaded guilty to careless driving and was sentenced to 12 months in prison. Dangerous driving is what he should have been charged with and he should have got a lot longer sentence but he didnt. I think it wouldve made a bit of difference to me, obviously not my heartache, because thats never going to go away. But i would have felt something was. Justice was done, something was done for my son, for him to have his life taken like that. 27 of the 44 Police Forces in england and wales responded to a freedom of information request from the bbc. The figures show the number of times a driver or rider failed to stop after a collision rose from just over 19,200 five years ago to around 28,000 last year. Thats an increase of 46 . But the total number of crashes has stayed broadly similar during the same time. The Road Safety Charity brake says there needs to be a change in sentencing policy. Last year, the ministry ofjustice announced life sentences will be introduced for those who cause death by dangerous driving and said the government is committed to making sure the courts have sufficient powers to deal with driving offences. The chancellor, philip hammond, is to follow through on a promise made by his predecessor George Osborne and for the first time devote the money raised from vehicle tax to major roads across england. More than £25 billion will be made available for motorways and a roads between 2020 and 2025. Therell also be an extra 420 million earmarked for repairing potholes in local roads. The duke and duchess of sussex have arrived in new zealand which is the last stop on their 16 day tour. Harry and meghan will visit wellington and auckland over the next four days, where they will lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. 0ur royal correspondentjonny dymond has been following the couple and has just sent this report. Well, here outside the National War Memorial, the response, you can see, has been enthusiastic to the couple. They have been in the country for a couple of hours and were greeted by the Prime Minister at the airport and then they made their way to the governor generals residence thats the queens representative in new zealand. There there were two traditions on show there was a traditional welcome, a hangi followed by a blood curdling haka, the kind of thing that we normally see with the all blacks rugby team. Then a more traditional welcome from the new Zealand Armed forces where prince harry made a tour down the line of the military and inspected the guard of honour whilst the band played. They then came to the National War Memorial and laid a wreath here while the last post was played. And any moment now, they will come out and make a walkabout with the thousands who have come out here on a rather chilly sunday afternoon to catch a glimpse of, and if theyre lucky, have a chat with the royal couple. Theyve had a very warm reception in australia, in fiji and tonga, but at the moment, it looks like that will be outclassed by the reception they get here in new zealand. More now on our top story that Helicopter Crash at Leicester City Football Club. The aircraft belonged to the clubs owner Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha and the bbc has been told he was on board, but theres been no official confirmation. It came down about an hour after the game against west ham last night. Andrew james was part of the team covering the game for match of the day. It mustve been a late night, so thank you forjoining us. What did you see and hear last night . M thank you forjoining us. What did you see and hear last night . It was odd because i come here several times a season in my role as a floor manager with match of the day and it is not unusual to see the helicopter taking off and sometimes the noise of it arriving disturbs the post match interviews we do so we are used to it, and there was nothing untoward. I walk back, i walked back through the car park and asi walked back through the car park and as i went to get into my car i saw the helicopter just above as i went to get into my car i saw the helicopterjust above the roof of the stadium. I got into my car but could not get out of the car park because by the time i drove the 100 yards to the exit it was full of people looking in shock and horror and a lady in tears saying it spiralled down. You started to see smoke for a minute and then flames and within a second, the first police cars came racing down that road. Police and Emergency Service response was fantastic. What happened in the aftermath of the crash . They quickly established a cordon around the stadium, police, fire and ambulance quickly got it in place and we were asked and encourage to leave the area very quickly. I suppose there was fear of explosions. Id did hear it i heard a loud bang. I came back into the media area with 20, 30 journalists in there, awaiting further instruction, but when i left here just before midnight, further instruction, but when i left herejust before midnight, there was no word, no confirmation of what was happening. The sense we are getting this morning, even if you are not a fan of Leicester City, is the fact that the owner of the club was loved and respected by the fans. Yes, they we re very and respected by the fans. Yes, they were very good owners, if you can have good and bad owners of football clu bs, have good and bad owners of Football Clubs, they were very charitable, a generous in donations, he gave away free drinks and prize on his birthday is seasonal things. Mince pies. He bought the club in 2010. They won the premier league in 2016. The club and the fans have a very close bond. They will feel that. As well as that, i am conscious the staff are hugely upset with lots of tears from the staff, because they know the helicopter crew, they come to stand inside the players tunnel. That is where i was, and the guests for the helicopter journey assemble. A was, and the guests for the helicopterjourney assemble. A lot of regular faces were seen last night. We await news of their fate. What impact will it have on the club . What impact will it have on the clu b 7 leicester what impact will it have on the club . Leicester have had an extraordinary journey club . Leicester have had an extraordinaryjourney under club . Leicester have had an extraordinary journey under their ownership. It seems trivial to talk in football terms but immediately they have a game scheduled at southampton in the cup on tuesday which is unlikely to go ahead. That was from the club press officer last evening. It is unknown what the impact will be. Time tends to move on in these situations but at the moment, it is very raw for everyone. There were reports of players running to the crash site. It will bea running to the crash site. It will be a long time before people get over this. 0bviously be a long time before people get over this. Obviously we hope for good news. The helicopter came down from i imagine 250 feet, being above the stadium roof and coming straight down, but it was the impact of the fireball that will be the problem, i imagine. In terms of impact on the club, you imagine as with other disasters that have struck football clu bs, disasters that have struck Football Clubs, this will stay with Leicester City a long time. Gary lineker said last nights programme was the most difficult he had hosted and it mustve been difficult for you, as well . Well, gary is obviously part of Leicester City history and there is no comparison. It is the way, normality, saying goodbye to people, going back to your car, expecting that to be the end of another game Leicester City, suddenly turning into such a tragic event like this. Yes, i think gary has rightly earned a lot of praise from around the globe on how he handled match of the day and particularly the start, coming on the bad news not only of glenn hoddle, but of a fan passing away during the game at brighton. It was a dreadful day for football and for gary to cope with it as he did speaks volumes for him. Thank you for speaking. Andrew james, match speaks volumes for him. Thank you for speaking. Andrewjames, match of the day floor manager who was at the game. Heres darren bett with a look at this mornings weather. Good morning we have cold air again. The wind direction has changed, instead of coming from the arctic, it is from the north east and the distribution of showers will be different today. They will mostly be across eastern scotland and eastern parts of england, coming in from the north sea and further west much drier. We have cloud and showers in the south east and east anglia continuing for a few hours yet. Showers running towards the channel islands. 0therwise sunny spells developing here. And scattered showers in Eastern England and scotla nd showers in Eastern England and scotland and some showers in the midlands but wales, northern ireland, west of scotland and north west england probably dry. Here, the winds lighter. It will not feel as cold. Temperatures may be higher than yesterday. But still below par for this higher than yesterday. But still below parfor this time higher than yesterday. But still below par for this time of year and it will get cold quickly this evening because the winds will drop. We will have clear skies. Still some showers coming in from the north east. But clearer skies. Showers coming in from the north east. But clearerskies. Frost showers coming in from the north east. But clearer skies. Frost more widespread overnight and temperatures could be down to 3, minus four celsius. A cold start to the working week but for many monday should be a dry day. We still have showers, light and scattered, in the north sea coasts. The breeze more gentle. Cloud rain in the north west. For the most part it will be dry. Morning fog in wales and the west country. The temperatures similar to today. Things get interesting as we head into tuesday. This is a big area of low pressure in europe that will bring extreme weather here, heavy snow and damaging winds up into scandinavia. We are on the edge of that. We looked like we might get wet and windy weather across the eastern side of england but that could change. When the low pressure moves away around the middle of the week, it should turn quieter and milder. Some sunshine, showers, but we entered next week with strengthening winds. Gail is quite widely and wet weather in the north west. More from me in half an hour. Darren, you are always at least on the edge of some excitement youre watching breakfast from bbc news, its time now for a look at the newspapers. Lawyer Funke Abimbola is here to tell us whats caught her eye. Lets look at the front pages. The sunday mirror leads on that Helicopter Crash last night at Leicester City Football Club. Sir philip green has spoken to the mail on sunday about allegations of sexual and racial harassment, which he strenuously denies. He said he indulged in nothing more than banter and he had suffered the worst week of his life. The sunday times reports on the 11 People Killed by a gunman at a synagogue in pittsburgh, and claims the main suspect has been linked to neo nazi activity online. And the star on sunday wishes the former england and tottenham manager glenn hoddle a speedy recovery after he fell seriously ill while appearing on bt sport tv on saturday. So lets look at the inside pages. Where shall we start . You picked a story from the sunday times. Looking at gender law reforms and how the work of leading academics in this area has ground to a halt because a lot of activists have real issues with some of the proposals around transgender law reform. An example highlighted is allowing ben who identify as women to use public areas such as withins toilets, which is a contentious area. A lot of activists harassing these academics and hurling abuse at them. It has basically stop the work. They say this impacts their ability to Research Possible effects of reforms to the law . Before the law can change you need to look at it carefully a nd change you need to look at it carefully and look at the impact of any proposed changes. It is a shame, what would be very welcome, it is being stopped at this point. What is tricky is people are aware of the sensitivities particularly around language and that can put people off even wanting to engage for fear they Say Something deemed offensive and wish they never spoke about it in the first place. I have a number of friends who are transgender so this is something i have experience of, and it needs to be resolved. Areas do need to be addressed and it is a shame it is stopping the work. Under the lord, anyone who wants to change their gender in the uk needs a medical diagnosis, prove they have been living in the new gender at least two years and then obtain a gender recognition certificate. Thats right. Lets head to the 0bserver. Thats right. Lets head to the observer. The front page, at the bottom, about the Justice System and the head of the Crown Prosecution Service talking about not being able to cope. I suppose if anyone has a view, the leader of the cps will be one with a view listen to. She is the outgoing head. Her point is valid, data downloads, everything is now on computers that needs to be downloaded as it takes so much time. That itself is affecting the rate at which investigations can take place and ultimately justice which investigations can take place and ultimatelyjustice victims of serious crimes. A sceptic would point out that someone in this position would rattle the tinfoil more money particular with the budget coming up. The technology has not kept up with data downloads and it makes it difficult for those working in this area to do the job. Which leads us to the next story, sticking with the budget, this one, budget to get broadband up to speed. It is interesting because so much money is going into this, announced tomorrow. It is important. We forget how a Remote Community in the uk will not have access and so much is done online and if you do not have that it cuts you off. There are things you cannot do without the superfast access. Data downloads being a key thing, so it is important the Government Supports this. And also 0fcom has pushed hard on this. It is a positive thing. Inevitably it takes time because of the complexity of installing infrastructure in places where there are not many people. Huge geographical areas to cover. But once you have. I do not understand it exactly, but once you have the main access, the hub situation, it becomes easierfor main access, the hub situation, it becomes easier for those in surrounding areas to tap into it. |j am glad you have picked something that raises a smile. I think this is my favourite story of the week. In the sunday mirror, the issue of the photograph in blackpool. Whether or not it was a famous face. Photograph in blackpool. Whether or not it was a famous facelj photograph in blackpool. Whether or not it was a famous face. I love this story. This chap was caught on cctv, stealing in a supermarket and he looked a lot like david schwimmer. David schwimmer himself got in on the act. He did a spoof on his facebook page. It is hard to tell the difference between them. I thought it was hilarious. It is one when you cannot help but raise a smile. As you say, an alleged crime was taking place at the heart of it but the pictures are striking and in this era of social media, it is possible to become a global sorry. And it raises awareness of the crime so hopefully the person will be apprehended. Tanking. The Andrew Marr Show will be coming up later this morning on bbc one at ten oclock and andrews here now to tell us who hes talking to. Nice and big and simple this week. Tomorrow is budget day. It was going to be wednesday but the chancellor did not want to clash for some reason with halloween so i have the chancellor and shadow chancellor talking about the british economy, brexit and our future as a nation. Big issues plus fantastic music at the end. From the great cellist who played at harry and meghans wedding. And that is after the big stuff between hammond and john mcdonnell. We are looking forward to that, not 9am, 10am. Well be back with a summary of the mornings main news injust a moment. Stay with us, as after that well talk to the trauma surgeon who was on call the night of the westminster terror attack, the London Bridge attack and the grenfell fire, whos now written a book to help train other surgeons. Stay with us, headlines coming up. Hello, this is breakfast with chris mason and tina daheley. Its eight 20 9am. Heres a summary of this mornings main news. A helicopter has crashed and burst into flames only minutes after taking off from the grounds of Leicester City Football Club. The bbc has been told that the owner of the club, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, was on board but so far there has been no official confirmation. This morning weve been hearing reaction to the news from people at the stadium. This is the darkest day in Leicester City is history. These were owners that came, they bought the stadium outright, they wiped off the debt, saved us from being a championship club, its the season of a fairy tale premier League Winning season. Personally, as a fan, the happiest days, the greatest memories being a fan, and this sense of shock and disbelief continues to ripple around leicester. Prosecutors in the United States have charged a man with 29 offences including hate crimes and murder in connection with a mass shooting at a synagogue in pittsburgh. Mourners have been holding vigils for the 11 people who died after a gunman opened fire during morning service. Six others were wounded. The suspect has been named as 46 year old Robert Bowers. President trump said it was a wicked act of mass murder and said he would be visiting the city. Sir philip green has again denied allegations he racially and sexually abused former employees. The businessman told the mail on sunday newspaper there had only been some banter which had never been offensive. He had been granted an injunction banning the publication of the allegations but the labour peer lord hain named him in parliament. Sir philip says the last week has been the worst of his life. The number of hit and run crashes has risen by almost half in the past four years, the bbc has learned. There were more than 28,000 cases last year in england and wales and road safety campaigners are calling for longer prison sentences. Last year the ministry ofjustice announced life sentences will be introduced for those who cause death by dangerous driving. The chancellor, philip hammond, is to follow through on a promise made by his predecessor George Osborne and for the first time devote the money raised from vehicle tax to major roads across england. More than £25 billion will be made available for motorways and a roads between 2020 and 2025. Therell also be an extra 420 million earmarked for repairing potholes in local roads. The duke and duchess of sussex have arrived in new zealand which is the last stop on their 16 day tour. Harry and meghan will visit wellington and auckland over the next four days, where they will lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. The couple, who are expecting their first child, have already visited australia, fiji and tonga on their First Official tour. She might be the oldest person in the world butjulia flores hasnt tired of blowing out her birthday candles just yet. The 118 year old celebrated her birthday with live music, cake and herfavourite pasta dish. Ms flores is from bolivia and was thrown a party in her honour at city hall where she was given a certificate recognising her long life. Her family is hoping she will now secure her place in the guinness book of world records. And rightly so, i said. And rightly so, isaid. Indeed. Going to bring you some breaking news on the top story, the Helicopter Crash in leicester. We have heard from leicester this morning that there are womens team, the planned game that they had against Manchester United today has been postponed because of the events last night. And here is holly with the rest of the sport today. Its impossible not to reflect on what a terribly sad day basis. You mentioned Leicester City women tweeting about this, he have postponed their texture. But this news came last nightjust hours after we heard about glenn hoddle who collapsed yesterday morning and this was a day at this very special, it was his birthday as well, hed been receiving quite a lot of love twitter or his 61st birthday stop he a legend of the game, a lot love going out again today. The former england and tottenham manager is said to be responding well to specialist treatment after being taken to hospital after falling seriously ill. He was with the broadcaster bt sport when he collapsed they cancelled their saturday Afternoon Programme that hoddle was due to appear on. A spokesperson said his condition is serious, but he is receiving specialist treatment and his family are with him. Hoddle is considered one of the best players of his generation winning 53 caps for england before turning to management. He was a schoolboy at tottenham when i was there and he was the player, the star player that we looked up to and could never get near. And of course i worked with him when he was manager, worked under him, as one of his coaches. Certainly my thoughts are with him and pray or so with him but hes got a strong character and im sure hell pull through. Everyone here wishing him a speedy recovery of course. Liverpool are top of the premier league until monday night at least. They beat cardiff 4 1 at Anfield Mo Salah with a man of the match performance, opening the scoring, setting up Xherdan Shaqiris first goal since joining in the summer. And sadio manes second finishing things off. That result now matches liverpools best ever start to a premier league season. Yes, getting goals are nice but it will cause up, they gave us space, we could finish off the game, im fine. You got a clear week, finally, on top of the league . For 24 hours at least. My whole life, i wanted to be top of the league for 24 hours, its not decisive, but 26 points are really good. How fulham would love 24 hours at the top of the table. They slipped to their fourth defeat in a row beaten 3 0 by bournmouth. Striker Callum Wilson with a couple of the goals. Fulham are now the only side in the premier league to have conceeded in every league game this season. Theyre not at the bottom of the table though thats huddersfield. They lost 3 0 to watford. This was the second goal of the match, scored by gerard deulofeu. It means David Wagners side are still without a win this season, and have only won one of their last 20 premier league matches. Get ready for a horrible miss. This is hamiltons James Keatings in the scottish premiership that would have been a winner for his side over kilmarnock. Instead, it finished 1 1 enough to move kilmarnock up to second in the league. Elsewhere stjohnstone beat st mirren 2 0. It gets harder every single time. Will today be the day that Lewis Hamilton etches his name into the formula one history books . Hes on the verge of a fifth world championship, and will start todays Mexican Grand Prix from third on the grid knowing that he only needs to finish seventh to guarantee the championship. Joe lynskey reports. Mexicos grand prix circuit used to be a baseball stadium. This is where Lewis Hamilton makes his championship pitch. Hell do it from third on the starting grid after a qualifying session where red bull were energised. For a while Max Verstappen looked set to become the youngest driver to take pole position in history. He was stopped by his team mate Daniel Ricciardo who bettered the lap time with his last try. Hamilton will be poised just behind them. By his standards, not ideal, but this weekend, it doesnt need to be. Really depends how we get away but third place is a nice place to start. Here you get a good tow from the guys up ahead so naturally im going to be fighting to try and at least get in a position but of course im aware of the bulls ahead. Well, ricciardo celebrates but the outcome of his race it of little consequence to hamilton. The only man who can stop him winning the title now is Sebastian Vettel who starts from fourth on the grid today. The germans 70 points behind in the standings with just 75 more on offer. So even if vettel wins today, hamilton only needs to finish seventh to seal the title. Hes already become britains most successful driver overtaking sirjackie stewart. Juan Manuel Fangio was 46 when he won his fifth and final title in 1957 a record that would stand for four decades. Should hamilton match it today, only Michael Schumacher is left out in front. The britain must overtake twice at least to get his winning flourish in mexico but changing the orders in his nature, on the track and in the record books. Joe lynskey, bbc news. Coverage of that grand prix starts at 5 30pm. Stay with us on the bbc news channel. But this is where we say goodbye to viewers on bbc one. Bye for now. Trauma surgeons are the people you hope youll never need but are always on hand to save lives in the most dramatic circumstances. Our next guest, morgan mcmonagle, was the surgeon on call for some of the biggest events of recent years, including the Westminster Bridge attack and the grenfell fire. Hes written a book to help train other surgeons and is with us now. Good morning. Thank you for having me on. First of all, lets start where we should in this conversation, what is trauma . What cou nts conversation, what is trauma . What counts as trauma for a surgeon . By definition, any physical injury or burns, typically in the western world it affects younger people from the ages one year up to 45, it is the ages one year up to 45, it is the commonest cause of death and disability in the younger age which, as you know, is also the age group that our taxpayers and workers to look at the family, so it is a Huge Public Health problem as well. Any physical injury. Can you talk us through what happens when a major trauma incidents like grenfell or the london, westminster attack, the London Bridge attack happens when you in yourjob . Im very proud to say that since the initiation of the uk wide trauma system, and the london trauma system, each hospital now has a Major Incident plan, and that will kick into play when word comes in, so for example on the afternoon of the Westminster Bridge attack, in fact, afternoon of the Westminster Bridge attack, infact, often afternoon of the Westminster Bridge attack, in fact, often what happens, the bbc, for example, put out that it was happening, and very quickly the Emergency Services contact the hospital, and there is a command system that trickles down, almost like a hierarchy that will kick things into play. On the coalface, often have a trauma team, the surgeon in the hospital that day looking at the trauma, and it will kick in to receive people as they come in, depending on demand coming lets ta ke come in, depending on demand coming lets take a quick look at you in action, you were filmed for a bbc documentary, we can see how your tea m rea cts documentary, we can see how your team reacts to the Westminster Bridge attack. Can i ask you, at least for the next 20 minutes, to put some of the emotion and some of the other thoughts in our heads around the incident at the back of your minds, and lets focus on the clinical problems for patients . Ok, the two french chaps on a tour from brittany, a large head laceration on his scalp which was sutured by the Plastic Surgery service last night. Of all the patients, hes probably the first one who can be discharged and expatted back to france. It gives you an extraordinary insight there into the moment, talk to us about the ethical challenges you must face, particularly in the aftermath of a terror attack, where you might find yourself treating a terrorist. Yeah, i think most people, and that senior level, you put your emotions and judgment side. It is not my role to judge at that time. Secondly, you could be wrong, nobody comes in and says this is the person who has caused the mayhem, although it is usually quite obvious, because that particular person was shot on that day. You treat every person exactly the same as you would, and it is up to the police and society to decide what happens after that. Personally, police and society to decide what happens afterthat. Personally, i would rather someone survived and stood for their crimes, rather than they didnt, so it is really only in hindsight you can consider that, but at that time we treat everyone exactly the same. You are human, and when Something Like grenfell, the London Bridge attack happened, and you are dealing with those people coming in who are seriously injured, how do you cope with that on a personal level . How do your teams cope with that . It is down to resilience, and everyone is resilient in a different way. If you are attracted to an acute speciality, surgery, anaesthetics, emergency medicine, your resilience in general is a bit different, and thatis in general is a bit different, and that is why you are attracted to it. It is part of your training and experience over many years, i mean, resilience is how you bounce back, how you cope after a tragedy like that in life. And i think the most important thing is your experience, your attitude, important thing is your experience, yourattitude, maintaining important thing is your experience, your attitude, maintaining a very positive attitude, and most important is peer support, like not just societal orfamily important is peer support, like not just societal or family support, but your peers, who have common, shared experience. Like soldiers in more, they have common, shared experience, and when you look back on the psychology of resilience, it is the peer support that is most important. I suppose you cant really prepare in advance, because these things dont happen very often and someones career. Correct, but every trauma is a tragedy for the family, or the patient, for the team looking after them. What is it that drew you into this part of the medical field . There must be other areas in the broader profession which would be, i suspect, easier than being a trauma suspect, easier than being a trauma surgeon you dont choose it for ease, butjob satisfaction. There are definitely some people who prefer 9 5jobs, some people who do not, and i travelled the world, i travelled in trauma surgery in the United States, i used to work with helicopter retrieval work in australia, so it kind of attracts the adrenalinejunkie australia, so it kind of attracts the adrenaline junkie that would be drawn into that kind of work. Talk to us about the coordination that goes on between hospitals, because i guess that is crucial, and i wonder about the extent to which that has improved, so in the event of a terrorist attack or Something Like g re nfell tower, terrorist attack or Something Like grenfell tower, that the collective resources of the city and a sense of expertise from people like you and your colleagues is harboured in the best and most efficient way. In london, there are four major trauma centres which would work closely when it comes to major disasters, whether it is a deliberate tragedy, like the Westminster Bridge, or something that is not deliberate, like grenfell, or even a major pile up on the motorway, for example, we work closely with London Ambulance service, or any amulet Service Throughout the country. There is a London Office that tends to coordinate that on a more academic level, but also, any time Something Like that happens, you learn something from it, because no plan is ever perfect, and were doing a lot more close work with the police, for example, about what their role is in a tragedy, what our role is, we can come together, a bit more cross pollination of thinking when it comes to, unfortunately, when it comes to, unfortunately, when the next one happens, as opposed to it. You have written a whole book about this, helping to support new trauma surgeons, what is the biggest learn for you been, the one thing you want to share with people Going Forward . From the tragedy itself . Yes. I think, people Going Forward . From the tragedy itself . Yes. Ithink, again, i come back to your peers, and it is a real pleasure to get trained and share experiences with my peers who have similar experiences in different parts of the world and country, and moving forward, it is what i get from my peers, and the best thing about the nhs is the absolute esprit de corps, people behind the nhs are absolutely world class, behind the nhs are absolutely world class, the service they deliver on a day to day basis, and we should be very proud of that. Just going back to an element of the conversation we were having a few moments ago, reflecting on those in your profession and soldiers on the battlefield in terms of that peer support afterwards to what extent has that developed in the last few yea rs . Has that developed in the last few years . We have become much more aware as a society of things like ptsd. Correct and i am not military, but certainly at st marys, we do have military people rotating through, we have some on staff, and at Queen Elizabeth birmingham, wherei staff, and at Queen Elizabeth birmingham, where i also trained to bea birmingham, where i also trained to be a surgeon, it has a military section as well, so compared to the United States, i know a lot of the military guys in the United States tends to train separately, but quite unique in the nhs, such a Flagship Training Programme that the military quys Training Programme that the military guys and civilian guys train in parallel, and they both learn from each other. It is a nice symbiotic relationship between the two. Each other. It is a nice symbiotic relationship between the twom each other. It is a nice symbiotic relationship between the two. It has been fascinating talking to you, we really appreciated. The new series of hospital comes to bbc two in 2019. Youre watching breakfast from bbc news. The headlines a helicopter belonging to the owner of Leicester City Football Club has crashed and burst into flames shortly after a Home Premier League game. American prosecutors have brought 29 separate charges against the man accused of killing 11 people at a synagogue in pittsburgh. Heres darren bett with a look at this mornings weather. There you are, raindrops on roses, some poetry from County Durham absolutely, absolutely, why not . This time yesterday, chris, it was snowing over the hills in County Durham, we had a good covering of snow here and there, today some showers, as you can see from our picture, a beautiful sunrise, mind you, most of the showers falling as rain, cold heading ourway, but you, most of the showers falling as rain, cold heading our way, but not as cold as yesterday, coming from the arctic, coming from the north east, off the north sea, feeding in the showers. This is the radar picture over the last few hours, focusing on the showers in the south east and east anglia, a cluster of heavy ones, together with a lot of cloud around, continuing for the next couple of hours, pushing away down into the english channel. A stream of showers in the south east corner into the channel islands, but elsewhere sunny spells, a scattering of mainly light showers, one or two getting into the midlands, wales, northern ireland, much of scotland should be dry and sunny. In the north, the winds are much lighter than yesterday, probably not feeling quite as cold, but stronger winds in the south east, blowing in those showers, taking the edge off the temperatures, but otherwise 8 10 degrees, not bad in the sunshine and out of the win. Yes, a cold day, and it will get cold quickly during the evening, light winds, clearerskies for many, showers continuing to bump into the north sea coasts, cloud coming into the far north west, threatening a shower here, but in between clear skies and light winds, much more blue on the chart tonight, more frost more widely, and a hard frost as well, down to minus three or minus four celsius. A chilly start to the new working week. Monday, though, a dry day for most parts of the country, quite a few showers heading for the western isles, that rain not going to reach us, showers from the north sea are well scattered, light, and a lot of places will still be dry. Some sunshine around, morning mist and fog across wales in the west country perhaps, low cloud developing in the afternoon, but some sunny spells elsewhere, temperatures like today around nine or 10 celsius. I need to draw your attention to something nasty here in central europe, its really big area of low pressure that will bring heavy snowfall on tuesday, monday night into tuesday, over the alps, damaging winds moving northwards into scandinavia, we are just on the edge of that area of low pressure, the threat of wind and rain across eastern parts of england, but those details could change. After that low pressure moves away, the middle part of the week should be spookily quiet, a little bit milder, sunny spells, one or two showers, but by the end of the week a deep low coming in from the week a deep low coming in from the atlantic will bring some widespread gales and rain in the north west. Back to you. When i turned on the telly yesterday morning and heard you talking about snow, i thought, morning and heard you talking about snow, ithought, blimey, we are really heading downhill towards winter, and i see the mail on sunday has got a cracking picture here from cou nty has got a cracking picture here from County Durham, actually, about a postman, they always wear shorts, dont they . I might do they . i think they do well, this one wheels, in the snow. I wonder, down, how rare is snow at this time of year, october . It is not, really, towards the end of october it is not really that rare, and it was quite localised yesterday, chris, Higher Ground in the north east of england, where we just had showers coming at the time of maximum cooling, right at the end of maximum cooling, right at the end of the night. We also had some snow over high ground across northern scotland, not unusual at this time of year. It is a cold snap, not as cold today, and not as cold over the next few days either. Cheers, darren would you wear shorts in this weather . Yeah does your postman wear trousers . I have never seen a postman wearing trousers. That has got to be the group of it where do you live . very resilient and hardy get in touch, send us a message if you are a postie wearing shorts a 60th birthday is a big milestone, and when Shirley Thompson hit it, she decided to set herself a challenge. Shes aiming to row solo and unsupported across the atlantic ocean. We hear stories like this relatively often, but a couple of intriguing fa cts. If she succeeds, shell be the oldest woman ever to cross any ocean solo, and given that she learned how to row and swim just months ago, it really will be an achievement. Hugh schofield joined her for her first Training Session at sea. Dawn over the bay of cannes, and an ulsterwoman is already out and at the oars. Just a a few weeks before her big adventure, Shirley Thompson needs all the training she can get. Until earlier this year, shed never once been inside a row boat. Sea dog she aint. So why on earth is this 60 year old woman about to take on 3000 miles of unforgiving ocean . Im 60 years old, and im going for two records. One is the oldest woman ever to row any ocean solo and also the first irishwoman. Youre not of water woman, though, i mean, this is whats so extraordinary, this is not your natural medium at all . No, hate getting my hair wet, and i didnt swim up until about six weeks ago. But i wanted a challenge that was really, really tough for me. And so this is it doesnt get any tougher than this. At sea, shell need to get out of the boat to clean the hull, for example. For a new swimmer, that will be a challenge. What youre seeing here, amazingly, is the first time that shirley has ever been out of her depth. 0verseeing is coach niall bates, himself a transatlantic veteran. He says that for all her inexperience, shes got what it takes. Shes doing things in a very short space of time in terms of the learning curve. Can she do it . Absolutely. Thats the way she is she will do this, she will be ready. There is no knocking her from that, and thats the attitude that will get her across. Back in the marina, the boat is being fitted out with all the technical and Safety Equipment needed for more than 100 days at sea. Friends who drop by find the whole adventure baffling. Many times i have said to her nobody will mind if you pull out of it just say, im sick, im not feeling up to it. She said, no, im doing it. Shirley is a super fit extreme sportswoman on land. At sea, its a new world. Here theres the risk of storms, ships, whales, technical breakdown. All this, she knows. Im doing this because i want to so any of my fears im trying to put to the back of my mind and i will deal with everything, i hope i have a strategy for things, and i will deal with everything when i encounter it. But the fear is almost part of the pleasure. You know, i want to have this challenge so im looking forward to enjoying all the good bits and all the less good bits because its part of the journey. Shirley thompson, a sexagenarian land lover who has chosen the high sea for the challenge of a lifetime. What a woman. It certainly wouldnt be for me. There have been many campaigns to help raise the volume for womens voices across the globe this year, but one place where they still struggle to be heard is in the Classical Music world. Yes, about 95 of concerts have music only composed by men according to the donne women in music project. Now a scottish festival wants to redress the balance by featuring works from more than 50 female composers. Joining us in the studio now is composer and songwriter anna appleby. Morning to you. Thanks for having me on the show. How frustrating is it that the Classical Music world seems to be so male dominated . Its not just frustrating but also the world is missing out on a lot of its culture thats out there. There is all these fantastic voices, all of these amazing female composers who are not being heard. Its also people of colour, composers with disabilities, a whole range of people that are not being included and that means the diversity of our society is not being reflected. They do exist but they are not being represented . Exactly. There are a lot of people out there that people dont really exist. But ive just come back from sound festival in scotland, who have been pioneering about this. They have made an active decision to programme for more women than men and its doing really well for them. Theyve got great audiences, they are one of the leading contemporary Music Festivals in the uk, switch on working really well. But is striking is that when you look back into the mists of time and the big names of classical composition in a different era, it might be male dominated, but you are saying that save from the festival you have just come saying that save from the festival you havejust come back saying that save from the festival you have just come back from, saying that save from the festival you havejust come back from, there is still that skewed now. Its actually mostly mostly mazes. Laziness. It takes a real effort to change and break a cycle, so as well as there being sexism prevalent in society which influences that, its often just laziness. 0ne society which influences that, its often just laziness. One of the really crucial things is to educate people about the female composers of the past who were never heard, because there are hundreds of them. Its not just beethoven because there are hundreds of them. Its notjust beethoven and mozart, there is also clara schumann, fanny hansel, ruth crawford, whose string quartets were really influential. We just dont hear them. Maybe you need a key change initiative were for a 5050 a key change initiative were for a 50 50 representation for Music Festivals Going Forward. That Initiative Aims to have lots of festivals signing up for 2022 and the bbc has been great, because the proms have already committed to that. We will end on that note, the bbc is being great thank you so much for coming in and talking to us and good luck for the future. Fingers crossed for more women composers. Not that they dont exist but that we dont hear about them. Thank you. Thats all from the Breakfast Team this weekend. Enjoy your day. Goodbye. This is bbc news. Im ben brown. The headlines at nine. The bbc understands the thai owner of Leicester City Football Club was on board the helicopter that crashed last night outside the clubs stadium. A man suspected of killing 11 people at a synagogue in pittsburgh has been charged with murder. President trump called the attack a wicked act of mass murder. This evil anti semitic attack is an assault on all of us. It is an assault on humanity. Glenn hoddle, the former england manager is said to be responding well to treatment after being taken to hospital in a serious condition on saturday. And nose to nose with with maori elders, the duke and duchess of sussex arrive in new zealand

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