of hand washing, or even touching fake faeces, help people who suffer from contamination—related obsessive compulsive disorder, or ocd? we speak to the developers of a new app which aims to do just that, and talk to people with the condition. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until ”am this morning. also today: are you someone whose only option to get on the housing ladder was to buy on a new—build estate which is actually far out of town and lacks any facilities? a new report today says that the scramble to build new homes is producing houses next to bypasses and link roads, which are too far out of town to walk or cycle from and which lack good local buses. if that sounds like where you live, do get in touch. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... there are warnings of queues, delays and criminal gang activity at the uk's borders if britain leaves the european union without a deal. a report from the government watchdog the national audit office says complicated new border controls may not be ready by the end of march. it's emerged the government will urge ferry and freight companies to plan alternative routes if a no—deal brexit blocks cross—channel traffic. our economics correspondent, andy verity, reports. this is how easily goods flow into and out of the country now. and this is what might happen to the m20, according to the government and the national audit office, if we get a no—deal brexit next march. the government said if there is no deal, the border will be less than optimal. the priority at the uk's newly—enforced borders will be traffic flow and security. but what does less than optimal mean? the national audit office's latest report says there is a risk that 11 out of 12 critical systems needed to manage the border will not be up to scratch by the day we exit the eu on the 29th of march, and infrastructure to track goods coming in and out will not be built before then. if the government concentrates on traffic flow and security, and custom controls are not enforced, organised criminals may exploit the weakness. the risks and patterns of movement through the border will not change on day one. over time, organised criminals could take advantage of any weaknesses in the regime that it perceives. that could mean it is easier for goods to be smuggled into the country without paying the due customs duty and it could be easier for people to be trafficked into the country. the government says it's recruiting around 600 border force officers, but the nao points out that in the last three years, border force staff numbers have been cut by 7%, and it says there is a risk that new recruits cannot be deployed before march. andy verity, bbc news. theresa may will face tory mps concerned about her brexit plans this afternoon, as she addresses a meeting of the backbench 1922 committee. the showdown comes amid speculation that the number of conservative mps who have submitted letters calling for her removal is approaching the 48 needed to trigger a no—confidence vote in her leadership. we will be getting more analysis on that from norman a little bit later, before 9:30am. we will also be talking about brexit and the lack of preparedness for us leaving the european union in juventus preparedness for us leaving the european union injuventus a no deal and what that could mean. get in touch with us in the usual ways. rebecca jones is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. looks like we are the leopard ladies this morning, joanna! the bbc has seen new evidence that china is building a vast network of detention camps for muslims in its north—western region of xinjiang. there are claims that as many as1 million muslims from the uighur community are being held indefinitely. the chinese government denies the allegations, and says people are willingly attending "vocational schools" which combat "terrorism and religious extremism". too many new housing developments are being built in areas with few paths, cycle lanes or bus services, leaving its residents dependent on cars according to campaigners. researchers visited estates on the edge of towns and found that the scramble to build new homes is leaving numerous young couples reliant on cars to get to schools, shops and leisure activities. two babies with spina bifida have had their spines treated by surgeons while still in the womb — the first operations of this kind in the uk. the operations to repair a gap in the spine which doesn't form correctly during pregnancy, were carried out by 30 doctors at university college hospital in london. spina bifida is usually treated after birth, but the earlier it's addressed, the better it is for long—term health and mobility. passengers are being advised not to travel into london waterloo station this morning because of major signalling problems. a signalling fault is affecting services on the south western main line, with south western railway advising passengers not to travel and to seek alternative arrangements. all lines between woking and surbiton are affected with trains between salisbury and waterloo now starting and terminating at basingstoke. us president donald trump has called saudi arabia's response to the murder ofjournalist jamal khashoggi "the worst cover—up ever". the saudi kingdom has provided conflicting accounts of what happened to khashoggi — seen here entering the consulate for the last time. secretary of state mike pompeo said that the us "will punish those responsible" and is revoking visas of 21 identified suspects. they had a very bad original concept. it was carried out poorly, and the cover—up was one of the worst in the history of cover—ups. it's very simple. bad deal, should have never been thought of. somebody really messed up. they had the worst cover—up ever. hundreds of thousands of tenants who pay their rent on time are set to benefit from better credit scores. credit reference agency experian said it was right to recognise the regular payment habits of more than a million tenants. it is hoped the new system will give people access to better mortgages and loan rates. an official visit by the duchess of sussex to a market in fiji has been cut short because of security concerns caused by large crowds. royal officials say they weren't expecting the market to be so busy. earlier, in herfirst speech of the tour, meghan shared a personal message about the value of education. our royal correspondent, jonny dymond, is in fiji. well, we are halfway through this four—country royal trip but today has been meghan‘s day. they're both here, both the duke and the dutchess are here carrying out engagements, but for the first time on this trip, pretty much the first time since she was married, the duchess of sussex has been carrying out engagements by herself. whilst the duke was laying a wreath at the war memorial and giving a speech and opening part of the queen's commonwealth canopy, she was out at the university here, speaking about the importance of university education, speaking of her struggle to pay for her education and speaking about something very close to her heart, womens‘ and girls‘ rights and the importance of education to women and girls. everyone should be afforded the opportunity to receive the education that they want but more importantly the education that they have the right to receive. for women and girls in developing countries, this is vital. providing them with access to education is the key to economic and social development. because when girls are given the right tools to succeed, they can create incredible futures, not only for themselves, but for all of those around them. from the university she went off to the municipal market, but one small controversy, she was expected to spend around 15 minutes there but she made a rather hurried trip around the stalls in the end. the palace said that far more people had turned out than expected and there were some concerns about the security from her police officers and from the fiji security. so that was a rather brief trip and people were fairly disappointed that they did not get much time to spend with her. they are having the afternoon off in fiji and will hop to another part of the island tomorrow morning, and then they will go on to tonga. thousands of people have had to leave their homes as powerful hurricane willa continues to bare down on the western coast of mexico. authorities have ordered the closure of all businesses in some areas after a warning for winds of more than 120 mph. here's our north america correspondent, peter bowes. giant waves crash onto the shores of some of mexico's best—known tourist destinations. willa is one of the most dangerous storms to hit the country in recent years. popular resorts like puerto vallarta and mazatlan lie in the hurricane‘s path. the army's been brought in to help keep people safe, but local officials fear the worst, telling residents not to venture out. many visitors have been evacuated from their hotels to shelters. we didn't even know it was going to be a hurricane. we thought it was just going to be a storm. and when we checked in, they said it looks like it's going to be a three to five category hurricane. so we were just like, wow. it was kind of freaking us out. willa is weakening now, but the worst could still be to come. the authorities expect the storm surge will bring extensive flooding and destruction over a vast area. peter bowes, bbc news. a record—breaking $1.6 billion lotteryjackpot has been won in the united states. the draw for the mega millions lottery has a potentialjackpot of $1.6 billion, which is more than £1.2 billion pounds — the biggest payout in history. it's just been confirmed that a winning ticket was sold in south carolina. more winners could yet come forward to split the jackpot. police in blackpool have launched a manhunt for this alleged thief who bares a striking resemblance to the actor david schwimmer, who played ross in the 1990s sitcom friends. the force shared a cctv image of the man, who's accused of stealing a crate of beer. their online appeal has received over 50,000 comedy responses. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9:30am. my my favourite was, it hasn't been his day, his weak, his month, or even his year. in a few minutes, we'll be finding out about an attempt in parliament today to force the government to change northern ireland's ban on gay marriage and its strict rules on abortion. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtage #victorialive, and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport. katherine is at the bbc sport centre. cristiano ronaldo was back at old trafford last night. i expect he got a warm welcome? there is always such a huge buzz around cristiano ronaldo. the best player in the world, one of the best players, anyway, and notjust because he was making a return to the club where he was such a huge star for six the club where he was such a huge starfor six years, but the club where he was such a huge star for six years, but also because of rape allegations he is facing, katherine —— kathryn mayorga accused him of rape in a las vegas hotel in 2009. he addressed those allegations ina 2009. he addressed those allegations in a press conference before the match. he strenuously denies the account of what happened and he himself he says is a happy man, confident with his lawyers. away from the controversy he let football do the talking last night on his return to old trafford, setting up from the right—hand side the 17th minute goal that gavejuventus the win ina minute goal that gavejuventus the win in a 1—0 victory. david de gea denied ronaldo a goal of his own. nevertheless, he was the one the fa ns wa nted nevertheless, he was the one the fans wanted to see last night. several pitch invaders wanted to get close, meaning ronaldo was in the end the last man applauded off the pitch, on a night to remind united of glories past and what they are missing. this is whatjose mourinho had to say. it's a team that has everything. they have talent everywhere. of course, chris tiana ronaldo, dybala, the talent they have in attack. —— cristiano ronaldo. the quality they have all over the pitch. that was jose mourinho, who walked to old trafford last night because the team bus got stuck again, the team bus arriving late again. even though they are staying at a hotel that is only about half of my low—wage. a better night for manchester city? pep guardiola was rapturous following a 3—0 victory over shakhtar donetsk. they are top of their group. the highlights from last night, david silva and aymeric laporte scoring in the first half. david silva's first go, and then laporte headed in from a cornerfrom kevin de bruyne, making his return from a knee injury. and then bernardo silva finished the scoring. and pep guardiola was delighted. todayis today is a time to be happy, so happy, with how we played. after burnley, to travel here and play the way we did with this personality, everybody reached perfectly what we should do. it's an incredible result, three away against shakhtar donetsk. amazing. and some history made last night with manchester city being the first english side to win away in shakhtar donetsk in european competition. so worth the 4000 mile round trip. a bit of a long way to go for a football match. studio: but it was worth it! thanks, catherine. labour and conservative mps have joined forces in a fresh bid to legalise same—sex marriage in northern ireland and loosen its strict abortion laws. earlier this year, a majority of supreme courtjudges said the country's ban on terminations in cases of rape, incest or fatal foetal abnormality needed radical reconsideration. but the government says these issues should be left to the country's devolved parliament. however, the northern ireland assembly has not sat since march 2017, so can't make any law changes. now, a group of more than 80 mps are arguing the situation can no longer be ignored. they're calling for an?amendment to the northern ireland bill which would make the country comply with human rights legislation which applies to the rest of the uk. a vote is to take place later today. on this programme, we've been following calls for westminster to change laws in northern ireland. earlier this month, we revealed conservative mps were calling on the government to decriminalise abortion. our reporterjean mackenzie met denise, who says she was forced to carry her dying baby because of the current law. denise was halfway through her pregnancy when she and her husband richard found out their baby had a genetic disorder called edwards syndrome, which meant she wouldn't survive. not only would she be disabled in every organ and every sense in her body, but every cell would be wrong. if she did survive for a couple of hours or a couple of days, her suffering would be immense. so at that stage we had decided the best thing to do, the kindest thing to do, would be to have a termination. to do this, denise would have to travel to england. but she became seriously ill and bed—ridden, unable to make the journey. you obviously then had to continue with your pregnancy not knowing when you were going to lose your baby. that threw us both into a complete traumatic downward spiral. people would be constantly congratulating me because i was so big, asking when the baby was due. everyone wanted to share in the good news but we knew we weren't preparing just for a birth. we were preparing for a death. this agony was to continue for months. every minute of the day, every second of the day, you have to live with that knowledge that the child moving around inside you is a child who is going to die. the current law here means it's illegal for a woman to have an abortion unless her life or health is seriously at risk. to break that law can mean life in prison. and because health care is devolved, any changes in theory need to be made by the northern ireland assembly, which broke down last year after a row between the ruling parties. so, it's now been over a year and a half since the government here collapsed, and since any decisions were made here. and in this time, the conversation around abortion rights here has moved on, particularly after the referendum in the south of the country. and so people are calling on politicians in westminster to step in. we were told that it was likely she would die before birth. and at 35 weeks and three days, she did die. it would be another five days before she gave birth. i had thought that she would still look like a normal baby, but she didn't. her body had started to decompose. i remember denise said to me, what did she look like. i said, "she's beautiful", but i was trying to hold in the tears because i could see... all i could see was a dark space where her face should have been. and when everybody left the room, it wasjust me, denise, a dead baby and silence. until the morning, really. and that is an experience i will never forget. it's very hard to bury a child that you have just given birth to. we were forced to go through that experience. that's something that changes your life forever. earlier this year, a un committee found that abortion laws in northern ireland were breaching women's human rights, putting them in horrific situations that in some cases amounted to torture. because human rights are not devolved, those advocating for change say this makes the uk government responsible. it just threw my whole world into turmoil. and i have suffered, really suffered mental torture. and i've just not been able to get back on track again. and we spend every day grieving for her. it's always in our minds. to a certain extent, i accepted that our baby was going to die. but i could never, ever have accepted that it's ok to force a woman to carry a dying foetus until it is born as a dead baby. this shouldn't be happening to anybody. it really affects me deeply to know that other women have gone through that and will still go through that and nothing is still being done. that was denise's story. well, the government has always maintained abortion and same—sex marriage are devolved issues. here to challenge that is stella creasy — she's one of the mps who's attempting to amend a bill which would push through changes to abortion and same—sex marriage laws in northern ireland. we also have director of the rainbow project — john o'doherty. he is in a civil partnership because he wasn't able to marry his partner. we did ask a member of the government tojoin us we did ask a member of the government to join us for this discussion and for an mp from northern ireland's dup, which is pa rt northern ireland's dup, which is part of theresa may's coalition, but they both decline. welcome to both of you. stella creasy, when did you decide to put this in —— amendment forward , decide to put this in —— amendment forward, and why? we have in working with people in northern ireland for over1.5 with people in northern ireland for over 1.5 years on this issue is, because we recognise that in the absence of this assembly it doesn't ta ke absence of this assembly it doesn't take away the issues and the dysfunctionality of politicians and political life in northern ireland shouldn't mean a denial of human rights. our supreme court tells us that the situation in northern ireland when it comes to women and their right to access an abortion is cruel and humane. if you are put in northern ireland and ck termination you could face a longer prison sentence than the person who attacked but —— if you are put. that is based on uk legislation, as is the ban on people like james having an equal marriage. removing those legislation would not write legislation would not write legislation for northern ireland, but it would be a way of moving the conversation forward. normally you would look to the assembly to do that, but today we are going to parliament to confirm that the assembly is not functioning and live powers to the uk government. we think it is right that the secretary of state is held to account for this. do you know how much support you have got? there was a deadline of seven 30p last night. we are having to do this quickly because the government is trying to rush this through. over 100 mps have signed this and many more have expressed their support, this is not a party political issue. i am proud to stand with people on the conservative side who understand that when we signed the good friday agreement, that wasn't an empty promise, it was a real commitment and a real pledge, and never has it been more important. the conservative mp john been more important. the conservative mpjohn hayes has written on the conservative home website. we asked if he could join the discussion, but he wasn't available. he said in his article... he says: "decisions about the provision of abortion in northern ireland are the responsibility of the northern ireland assembly. were westminster to force such a change on northern ireland, we would effectively be saying, ‘we know better than the people of the province and their elected representatives'. this would be the height of arrogance. critically, it also would undermine the whole devolution settlement". how do you respond? john yesterday voted against the decriminalisation of abortion in england and wales, he needs to be honest that his concern is about abortion or gay marriage, i don't know. this is evolution respectful, it is about holding the secretary of state, who is taking powers because of the absence of assembly, to account for watching us. assembly, to account for watching us. that isn't the same as writing rules for northern ireland. all of us rules for northern ireland. all of us want to see the assembly back up and running, but in the democratic dysfunction are we really saying to the people of northern ireland that the people of northern ireland that the human rights must be the casualty? john, what is your views on the differing laws and how this should be handled? we live in a strange scenario whereas a uk citizen i can't get married in northern ireland and other same—sex couples who have got married in other parts of the uk cannot be recognised as equal here in northern ireland. if we look to the united states, we had the same issue where some states had legalised same—sex marriage and others haven't, the supreme court ruling was that you can't be married in one state and not married in another state. if you look at the uk context for that, 216—year—olds could get married in scotla nd 216—year—olds could get married in scotland without parental consent, they can't do that anywhere else in they can't do that anywhere else in the uk, but once married they have to be recognised in other parts of the uk. we have a strange scenario where we have the uk government celebrating the introduction of rights for same—sex people but ignoring the inequalities experienced by lg bt ignoring the inequalities experienced by lgbt people in northern ireland. many of your viewers may not ever see a scenario where they will find themselves living in northern ireland, but it's not outside the realm of possibility, and the inequalities that i experienced today and women experience, the right to choose and the right to body autonomy, will exist for anyone, any uk citizen when they travel to or choose to live in northern ireland. we asked the dup to take part in the discussion and they declined. they did give us a statement saying the government has a clear position on respecting the right of the assembly to legislate on abortion and the redefinition of marriage from slack the will of the people of northern ireland. —— reflecting the well.|j think that is unfair. we know that over 70% of people support the introduction of equal marriage and 56 out of 90 of our currently elected mlas support the introduction of equal marriage and we know from the bill and its first reading that there is overwhelming support within westminster for the introduction of equal merit. in 2015, there was a majority vote in the northern ireland assembly in favour of the introduction of equal marriage that was blocked by the petition of concern. we are fighting a campaign which in many ways we have already won, we just don't have the avenue to see new legislation introduced, and it is incumbent on westminster and the current government to make time and space to have an open and reasonable debate on the extension of same—sex marriage rights to people in northern ireland. we have been 20 months without a government, we have to ask the question, how long is too long? how much longer do we have to wait? it is 15 years after the rest of the united kingdom that you homosexuality was finally decriminalised in northern ireland, we have had over 50 years since the introduction of the 67 act, where women in northern ireland have been criminalised simply for seeking body autonomy. the british government can't continue to hold themselves up for the champions of civil rights and human rights and lgbt rights of the going to ignore the inequalities experienced by uk citizens here in the uk, and that's what we are talking about. today's move by the secretary of state is addressing some of the issues presented by the fa ct some of the issues presented by the fact that we don't have a government, giving more powers to civil servants. but you can't can choose which issues you are going to deal with. either of the secretary of state and the uk government are going to take authority and responsibility for northern ireland, or they are not. and today is another move by the secretary of state to take power for northern ireland and make decisions for northern ireland, and we would encourage her, we would encourage the conservative government, we would encourage all mps to ensure that the human rights and the inequalities experienced by people here in northern ireland... thank you, john, i want to put this back to stella creasy. john saying, as you have said, that affect on the government on westminster cannot pick and choose what issues it takes responsibility for northern ireland so responsibility for northern ireland so all that effectively the government. these issues are particularly sensitive, though. we know that politicians are behind the people in northern ireland, opinion polls show consistently that people support same—sex marriage and abortion reform, especially following the referendum earlier this year in the republic of ireland. ijust this year in the republic of ireland. i just went every politician cannot have not watched that film with denise and seen by human consequence. the dup doesn't. but dup voters do. the polling shows that the politicians are behind the public in northern ireland. isn't it better to let democracy take its course, then? all of us want by assembly to be back up and running, but today's bill shows that has a long way off right now, and the question is, do we have to see more people like denise suffered? i think politicians, when theyjust oppose abortion and gay rights, they need to be honest about this. when you listen to the suffering and the human consequence of it, to say to people like james, i'm sorry, we are going to attend but your rights, the rights of the courts have said needs to be addressed, they don't matter, what message does that send? i hope every mp who recognises it is outdated uk britain westminster legislation that is causing these problems recognises the responsibility to act. bringing in some comments from viewers... northern ireland citizens should be entitled to the same abortion rights as members around the united kingdom. it is important for every briton to have the same rights wherever they live in the uk. someone else on twitter, unionist people in the north of ireland say they are proud to be british but will not accept uk law on abortion or gay marriage. they are stuck in the dark ages. an anonymous text says that in the absence of a northern ireland assembly and a referendum should be allowed. paul says bad cases should not make law. personal tragedy is not a reason to change the law. but this could be a trojan horse for the anti—christian policies. what do you expect to happen after today?|j policies. what do you expect to happen after today? i have seen many mps from across the political parties saying they intend to stay and vote today to send a message of solidarity to people of northern ireland. i hope the government is listening. theresa may agrees that theissues listening. theresa may agrees that the issues need to be dealt with but it is also up to the assembly. today she passes a bill that makes the assembly not function so she has to ta ke assembly not function so she has to take responsible to the consequences of that. the amendment we ask people to support would lay the responsibility firmly with the secretary of state who has those powers and call her to account for the people of northern ireland. i think it's a reasonable amendment for mps across the house to support and that is why it has cross—party support. i hope the whips are listening to the strength of feeling. still to come... there's been a big rise in the number of people calling the national gambling helpline over the past five years. we'll speak to those trying to raise awareness of the issue. and, could a smartphone app help people with ocd to alleviate their fears of contamination? we'll speak to a cambridge neuroscientist who says the results look promising. time for the latest news. here's rebecca. there are warnings of queues, delays and criminal gang activity at the uk's borders if britain leaves the european union without a deal. a report from the government watchdog the national audit office says complicated new border controls may not be ready by the end of march. it's emerged the government will urge ferry and freight companies to plan alternative routes if a no—deal brexit blocks cross—channel traffic. theresa may will face tory mps concerned about her brexit plans this afternoon, as she addresses a meeting of the backbench 1922 committee. the showdown comes amid speculation that the number of conservative mps who have submitted letters calling for her removal is approaching the 48 needed to trigger a no—confidence vote in her leadership. the bbc has seen new evidence that china is building a vast network of detention camps for muslims in its north—western region of xinjiang. from the uighur community are being held indefinitely. the chinese government denies the allegations and says people are willingly attending "vocational schools" which combat "terrorism and religious extremism." too many new housing developments are being built in areas with few paths, cycle lanes or bus services, leaving its residents dependent on cars, according to campaigners. researchers visited estates on the edge of towns and found that the scramble to build new homes is leaving numerous young couples reliant on cars to get to schools, shops and leisure activities. two babies with spina bifida have had their spines treated by surgeons while still in the womb — the first operations of this kind in the uk. the operations — to repair a gap in the spine which doesn't form correctly during pregnancy — were carried out by 30 doctors at university college hospital in london. spina bifida is usually treated after birth, but the earlier it's addressed, the better it is for long—term health and mobility. passengers are being advised not to travel into london waterloo station this morning because of major signalling problems. a signalling fault is affecting services on the south western main line, with south western railway advising passengers not to travel and to seek alternative arrangements. all lines between woking and surbiton are affected with trains between salisbury and waterloo now starting and terminating at basingstoke. a record—breaking $1.6 billion lottery jackpot has been won in the united states. the draw for the mega millions lottery has a potentialjackpot of $1.6 billion, which is more than £1.2 billion — the biggest pay out in history. it's been confirmed one winning ticket was sold in south carolina. more winners could yet come forward to split the jackpot. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with katherine downes. ididn't i didn't get the memo about the leopard skin this morning so apologies for that! let's start with football. cristiano ronaldo made a winning return to old trafford, setting up paulo dybala for the only goal of the game asjuventus beat manchester united 1—0. it was a much better night for the blue half of manchester. city beat shakhtar donetsk 3—0 in ukraine to leave them top of their group. england's cricketers suffered their heaviest ever defeat in one day cricket, losing to sri lanka by 219 runs in the final one day match of the series, which england had already won. and defending champion caroline wozniacki beat petra kvitova for the first time in four years, at the season—ending wta finals. that got her challenge back on track, after defeat in her opening round robin match. that's all the sport for now. theresa may will face her tory critics this afternoon as she tries to convince them to get behind her in the crucial stage of the brexit negotiations. the prime minister will address a meeting of the 1922 committee of backbench conservative mps. let's get more on this from westminster, norman smith. she is going voluntarily, but what does it mean? on the face of it it isa does it mean? on the face of it it is a crunch moment for theresa may when you listen to some of the briefing beforehand, people saying she will have to bring her own noose to the meeting, and we know many of her own mps are venomously opposed to her. i don't think it will be high noon for the pm, in part because her critics are slightly on the back foot at the moment, slightly overreaching themselves with some of the language they used about the pm at the weekend, talking about the pm at the weekend, talking about her entering the killing zone and that sort of stuff. that has backfired against them. they are a little bit cowed, and added to which, despite their brash talk of a possible leadership challenge this week they have not managed to get the necessary 48 letters to trigger a vote. it is more the occasion. i have been outside a number of crunch 1922 meetings, and what tends to happen is that the pm goes in and we journalists wait outside. and actually the mps tends to rally round the prime minister. they don't wa nt to round the prime minister. they don't want to give to us reporters waiting outside the scalp of a humiliated, broken and crushed prime minister, and also in part because to get out of one of these meetings and take on the party leader, you need some nerve because the room is full of mrs may's supporters and loyalists. so to actually get out requires some gumption. so the pm will get credit for being daniel and entering the lion's then, facing her critics. what does it mean? despite there being a huge build—up and a drum roll as the pm enters the room, she may actually emerge not weakened, but possibly even in the short term a little bit strengthened as mps for now rally round. let's see what happens. thank you, norman. there's been a 30% increase in five years in the number people calling the national gambling helpline asking for support with their addiction. nearly 30,000 calls were made to the helpline by gamblers in the last year. parents of men who've taken their lives because of gambling addictions have joined together to raise awareness. bbc look north's ali fortescue reports. family men — all loved, all lost because of an addiction to gambling. among them alan lockhart, who died when he was 40 years old. he'd hung himself in his bedroom and he'd been found by his landlord, who'd broken in for rent money, which he'd never had. i was just horrified because i couldn't see what the attraction was, that it was so great that it could have this effect on my son. because we'd always thought it was bad behaviour, which was why we hid it. my concern was — what could i have done to prevent it? who could i have asked? who would have helped me? i couldn't find anybody. but, sadly, alan's story isn't unique. nearly 30,000 calls were made to the national gambling helpline last year — that's a 30% increase on five years ago. the proliferation of advertising and the concern that we've got with the harm caused by the fixed odds betting terminals, for example. whether this reflects an increse in problem gambling, per se, i don't think it would be a great surprise to those of us working in the area. for matt, it all started with card games when he was just 13 years old. he didn't realise then that his addiction would end in a prison sentence. i ended up taking money from work. i'd exhausted all lines of credit. i'd had eight credit cards, 13 bank loans, two store cards, my house was re—mortgaged, carloan, and ijust couldn't get any more money. so i "borrowed" money from work — that's how my brain said it. i was actually taking money. only small amounts. and thatjust carries on and on, because an addictive gamblercan't win — they just lose money. and those losses become big very, very quickly over a space of time. were you happy at that time? no. i portrayed myself as happy, portrayed myself as a family man with lots of friends. and when i went out, we enjoyed ourselves. inside, i was an addicted gambler. i thought about suicide daily because i was in such a hole. ijust could not get out. but many aren't able to start again. today, parents of men who took their own lives are hoping to raise awareness at a charity football match. every story is different, but underlining all of them — an addiction to gambling. one of the guys playing today found him. he was very strong, very supportive, supporting us. "i'll always be there for you, mum and dad." it was a total shock. he wrote three words that stood out — "addiction is cruel." addiction is? is cruel. that's what he wrote in the note he left us. it said everything, and he wrote it in capital letters. it doesn't just affect a gambler. it's not the numbers of gamblers that matter, it's the number of families that matter, the number of people in those families. they are the victims. we're talking now to some families who've lost loved ones because of their gambling addiction. judith bruney‘s son chris was was 25, and died by suicide because of his gambling addiction last april. this is the first time they've spoken on tv since his death. anne evans' son alan also took his own life in 2010, aged 40. she now works with a charity to try and help young people beat gambling addiction. lord peter chadlington campaigns for tighter regulations and restrictions within the gambling industry. welcome to you all. i know you haven't spoken publicly about this so we appreciate your coming in. judith, when were you first where chris had a gambling issue? i think the time when i was most aware was when it was around the 2014 world cup. that's when he started gambling more. and he had been gambling without you knowing since the age of 16. yes. what was it at the world cup that made you suddenly aware? he was on his phone a lot more. it was always when the matches were going to be played. did you see it as an addiction? at big sporting events it is common for people to place bets and talk openly about it. what made you think it was something more? i never thought chris was addicted to it at all because he was always... he was neverin because he was always... he was never in debt. he always had money. he always achieved everything he wa nted he always achieved everything he wanted to. he was very strong. he was a larger than life character and i never thought he would get an addiction to anything. so i didn't realise that he was addicted to gambling. how would you describe now, in retrospect, with the dots you have been able to join, now, in retrospect, with the dots you have been able tojoin, what now, in retrospect, with the dots you have been able to join, what the scale of his addiction was? basically, we noticed in 2014 that his gambling has started to get worse, his gambling has started to get worse , we his gambling has started to get worse, we didn't really know that he was addicted to gambling before that, but it was around summer 2015 that, but it was around summer 2015 that we realised that he was addicted to gambling, which is when he had quite a big loss, his first loss. but he did... he seemed to bring himself background from it, then he won his money back and he was a bit up and down through the year after 2015 to 16. then he had another big loss in 2016 summer. and then... basically he was very down at the end of the summer, so we said to him, you know, we think you've got an addiction. he never quite admitted that he had an addiction, but he did agree to go to the gp, he we nt but he did agree to go to the gp, he went in october. they then gave him some antidepressants, and they gave him the crisis number. we didn't know what went on at the gps, obviously, and told the inquest. and then we found, me and judith, some counselling for him online, which was with chrysalis, run by a charity. we had back after christmas, about six weeks, which is when he was absent from gambling for three months. and then he took his own life on april the 2017. —— april six. after he had been three months clear of gambling, but basically he we nt clear of gambling, but basically he went out with his friends one day, and itjust went out with his friends one day, and it just triggered went out with his friends one day, and itjust triggered him to start gambling again, which we didn't realise. and then by three days later he had been are gambling binge, which we checked all his bank statements, then he took his own life in the middle of the night. are you sure that gambling was there... out, yes, gambling was the factor. he did struggle and we didn't realise the extent of it. it is being said, it's not about the financial loss, it's not about the worry of debt, what was the issue for him? it was the thrill of it. the thrill, the addiction. when somebody is young and they win a large amount of money, it's that thrill, the feeling of that. and, you know, for some people, they get addicted to that. when he was 16, he won £300 at the bookies, his friends have said, and since then, he's sort ofjust like, just wanting that thrill, basically. hejust lived ofjust like, just wanting that thrill, basically. he just lived for that thrill. it wasn't about the money, the him, because he had won all of his money back, you know, many people don't, but he did, he won his money back every time, i'm not sure how. but, yeah, he had the money, you know, he won it back, and it wasjust the money, you know, he won it back, and it was just the addiction of wanting to gamble and seeking the thrill that he had when he was younger. i'd like to say to everybody that it's, it's not about the money when somebody is gambling, at all. chris was never, ever in that. he never asked anybody for a penny. people used to go to him come at you know, to ask him to lend them money, but he was never in debt. it was that when he wasn't gambling, when he stopped himself, the gambling industry, companies handed him come out because he did use to put high bets on when he did that. when he didn't, they didn't leave him alone. the temptation is always the. he got letters, he got e—mails, text messages, he got assigned a winner vip because he had gambled quite large sums of money in between gambling and being absent from gambling. so, yeah, he got bombarded by all of these things, and obviously the old advertising months that were around. anne, we heard you in our report, i'm very sorry to say that your son alan also took his own life. when you listen tojudith and francesco, does what they say chime with your own mix here and says? yes, it certainly does. —— with your own experiences. i feel very sorry for these people. it's an awful dissent from what has been a decent, hard—working dissent from what has been a decent, ha rd—working happy person dissent from what has been a decent, hard—working happy person into someone hard—working happy person into someone who has lost everything because of the addiction. and what you think it was in the end, have you think it was in the end, have you been able to sort of look back and understand why the gambling took such a hold that in the end alan did ta ke such a hold that in the end alan did take his own life? our feelings about the gambling when it was happening was that alan was behaving very badly. and we couldn't understand why. he'd been a normal, happy, ha rd—working youngster at school. and then, suddenly, he'd become this person who couldn't keep any money in his pocket, any money. it was going. and he was always asking for money. we couldn't understand this, and felt it was him behaving very badly. we know better now. it's so hard, though, to deal with a situation for any parent when a child is acting out and you don't know what is the best way to handle something, how did you cope? we coped by helping him in whatever way we could. his dad used to have long talks with him. and allenwood promised that he would not gamble again —— alan would promise. but a few weeks later, the same problem, he had no money. peter, i know that this is an issue that you have looked into a lot, you've done a lot of research on it, actually. what is your view of what's going on here? i'm afraid to say that this is not exceptional. there are now probably, according to gambling with lives, there is now one suicide everyone m, there is now one suicide everyone in, every afternoon, every working day of the year. most of these people are under 25 years of age and they come from happy, loving families. that's the issue. i want the government to do quite things. i wa nt the government to do quite things. i want the to first of all to cut the advertising that we see on television —— i want the government to do quite row things. you mentioned the world cup. there was so mentioned the world cup. there was so much advertising during the world cup it was equivalent to an extra game, it was 90 minutes of advertising for gambling. gambling around sporting events is, you know, i guess most people think it's all a bit of fun. but if you are susceptible to addiction, it's not that. it has gone up 6396 since 2012 and other countries have done something about it. australia has banned all gambling advertising during live sporting events, italy stopped all advertising from january one. this is important step. i second point is, we need to spend some money on helping these people. there are 2 million people now he worrying danger of becoming gambling addicts. we have 430,000 in treatment. how do we raise the money to look after these people? i believe there should be a mandatory levy on the gambling companies of 196, levy on the gambling companies of 1%, which would generate £137 billion. currently there is a volu nta ry billion. currently there is a voluntary one which generates about £14 billion. the thing, i want to have an independent body which receive this money and make it available for research into the suicide issues, the most telling thing is the lady we've just been talking to, i work with about 20 pa rents talking to, i work with about 20 parents who have gone through this terrible experience, and they all say the same thing to me, we didn't know what to do. and when our son went to see the doctor, the doctor didn't know what to do! so, there is an educational programme to be undertaken as well as research. and my final point, and this is the most worrying thing of all, is we now have mobile phones. all of this is done on mobile phones. if you are watching on your telly and you see something and you decide to bet, the gambling company now has your number, e—mail address, all of gambling company now has your number, e—mailaddress, all of your details, and can pushed up through to you when you are so vulnerable so white and you can be sitting next to somebody who has no idea what you are doing. my grandchildren, when i think about the future, they are learning to gamble online at the ages of six, seven and eight. i will give you one example. there is a game called fortnight, 128 million people play it around the world. you gamble on this. you used actual money. it is a jukebox. el zhar yesterday came out and said, this is banned, this is encourage and people to gamble. i want the government to deal with all of those for issues —— el zhar came out yesterday and said this is banned. —— el zhar. el zhar came out yesterday and said this is banned. -- ethar. judith, final thought from you. heater was saying that there is not the awareness around gambling as the race around other issues —— peter was saying. in hindsight, it can be an absolutely terrible thing when you have been through something awful. what would you say to other pa rents awful. what would you say to other parents out there whose children may be, at the age of 16 or maybe even younger, starting to do the things that may be sowing the seeds for future gambling addiction? well, that's a difficult question. like you said, they do it in private, you know, but more and more, young people, you know, they are showing winning tickets on facebook now and bragging about it more now, it seems to becoming the norm. young people are gambling more and more. advertising has normalised dampening, that's what's so terrible about it. i'd just like dampening, that's what's so terrible about it. i'djust like to dampening, that's what's so terrible about it. i'd just like to say that, you know, we never in a million yea rs you know, we never in a million years would you know, we never in a million yea rs would have you know, we never in a million years would have thought this would have happened to us. never, not chris. he was, you know, he was so strong, we never thought this would happen to us. if it can happen to us, people need to be aware that it can happen to them. thank you for coming in and talking to us. and thank you also to you, anne. if you or someone you know needs help with gambling, you can call the national gambling helpline — it's run from 8am to 12am every day, and the freephone number is 0808 8020133. coming up... are you someone whose only option to get on the housing ladder was to buy on a new estate which is actually far out of town and lacks any facilities? a new report today says that the scramble to build new homes is producing estates without footpaths or green space, meaning residents are being pushed into "car dependency". if that sounds like where you live, we want to hear from you. use the hashtag #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. hundreds of foreign maids from africa and asian who travel to the middle east to work are legally bound to their employer under the so—called kalafa system. they have limited rights and many women are overworked, underpaid and physically abused. testimonies from women who have escaped reveal the shocking scale of abuse — often physical — that is hidden behind closed doors. the bbc africa investigations team have travelled to lebanon and jordan to investigate the practice. 2.8 million women work as maids in the middle east. many have their passports confiscated on arrival. and some find themselves trapped inside homes where they're overworked, underpaid and physically abused. emma mbura is a kenyan senator who campaigns for the rights of kenyan women who are sent as domestic servants to the middle east. today, she's on her way to the hospital to visit mary — a kenyan maid who was badly burnt in a fire at her employer's home in jordan. for a month, no—one injordan — not her employers or the recruitment agency — informed mary's family of the accident, until she was put on the plane home. mary died a month later. despite stories of abuse, thousands of women from kenya and ghana still sign up with recruitment agencies, like this one injordan. hello, how are you? neither of these agents is abused of abuse. is acused of abuse. but the abuse does happen, often behind closed doors and usually unreported. some women, though, escape to safe houses, like this centre in lebanon where they are free to tell their stories. in 2012, kenya banned women from travelling to the middle east as domestic workers. but recently they lifted that ban and signed new deals with saudi arabia, lebanon and jordan. what exactly happened to mary remains unclear. but her family was never compensated. while the fight against domestic servants continues for emma mbura. let's get the latest weather update, with carol. for many of us today it will be dry, sunny spells particularly across central and eastern areas. the bit more clout in the north and west which will produce some patchy rain from time to time. rain moving away from time to time. rain moving away from the northern isles. still drops of rain across western scotland, northern england and north wales through the day. south wales and south england brightening up with the lion's share of the sunshine in central and eastern parts with temperatures between ten and 17. through this evening and overnight, new or front through this evening and overnight, new orfront coming through this evening and overnight, new or front coming in with rain across scotland. more cloud cover across scotland. more cloud cover across england and wales. where it remains clear across north—west england, south—west england, temperatures in rural areas will be lower and there will be a touch of missed. tomorrow starting off cloudy, rain coming in across the west. more cloud than today with sunny breaks. and the change in temperature, relatively mild as we comes temperature, relatively mild as we co m es after temperature, relatively mild as we comes after the first signs of something called a coming our way in the north. —— something colder coming our way. hello, it's wednesday, october24th, it's just after 10am. i'm joanna gosling. welcome to the programme if you'rejustjoining us. there's a warning that the uk is underprepared to deal with issues at the borders in the event of a no—deal brexit, suggesing new border controls may not be ready in time. the national audit office say that even if a withdrawal agreement is reached, there will still be significant challenges that could be taken advantage of. organised criminals could take advantage of any weaknesses in the regime that it sees. that could mean that, you know, it's easier for goods to be smuggled into the country without paying the due customs duty. we'll discuss what could and should happen at our borders when we leave the eu. a campaign group says cancer survivors, including children, are facing a financial life sentence when it comes to looking for travel insurance or trying to get a mortgage. some people face high prices long after treatment, and there are now calls for a right to be forgotten, to limit the length of time you have to declare your medical history. and, the rush to build new homes on the edge of major towns and cities is leaving many young couple overly dependent on their cars. a campaign group says many houses are being built too far out of town to walk or cycle and lack good public transport. good morning. here's rebecca in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. there are warnings of queues, delays and criminal gang activity at the uk's borders, if britain leaves the european union without a deal. a report from the government watchdog, the national audit office, says complicated new border controls may not be ready by the end of march. it's emerged the government will urge ferry and freight companies to plan alternative routes if a no—deal brexit blocks cross—channel traffic. the risks and patterns of movement through the border won't change at day one. over time, organised criminals could take advantage of any weaknesses in the regime that it perceives. that could mean that, you know, it's easier for goods to be smuggled into the country without paying the due customs duty. it could be easier for people to be trafficked into the country. theresa may will face tory mps concerned about her brexit plans this afternoon, as she addresses a meeting of the backbench1922 committee. the showdown comes amid speculation that the number of conservative mps who have submitted letters calling for her removal is approaching the 48 needed to trigger a no confidence vote in her leadership. two babies with spina bifida have had their spines treated by surgeons while still in the womb — the first operations of this kind in the uk. the operations — to repair a gap in the spine which doesn't form correctly during pregnancy — were carried out by 30 doctors at university college hospital in london. spina bifida is usually treated after birth, but the earlier it's addressed, the better it is for long—term health and mobility. the bbc has seen new evidence that china is building a vast network of detention camps for muslims in its north—western region of xinjiang. there are claims that as many as a million muslims from the uighur community are being held indefinitely. the chinese government denies the allegations and says people are willingly attending "vocational schools" which combat "terrorism and religious extremism." passengers are being advised not to travel into london waterloo station this morning because of major signalling problems. a signalling fault is affecting services on the south western main line with south western railway advising passengers not to travel and to seek alternative arrangements. all lines between woking and surbiton are affected with trains between salisbury and waterloo now starting and terminating at basingstoke. too many new housing developments are being built in areas with few paths, cycle lanes or bus services, leaving their residents dependent on cars, according to campaigners. researchers visited estates on the edge of towns, and found that the scramble to build new homes is leaving numerous young couples reliant on cars to get to schools, shops and leisure activities. an official visit by the duchess of sussex to a market in fiji has been cut short because of security concerns caused by large crowds. the duchess had been expected to spend longer meeting people at the market, on what was her first solo engagement of the trip. earlier, in herfirst speech of the tour, meghan shared a personal message about the value of education. everyone should be afforded the opportunity to receive the education that they want but more importantly the education that they have the right to receive. for women and girls in developing countries, this is vital. providing them with access to education is the key to economic and social development. because when girls are given the right tools to succeed, they can create incredible futures, not only for themselves, but for all of those around them. a record—breaking $1.6 billion lotteryjackpot has been won in the united states. the draw for the mega millions lottery has a potential jackpot of $1.6 billion, which is more than £1.2 billion — the biggest pay out in history. it's been confirmed one winning ticket was sold in south carolina. more winners could yet come forward to split the jackpot. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10:30am. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. let's get some sport now. katherine is at the bbc sport centre. regretting not wearing the leopard print? not wearing the team colours today. good morning. cristiano ronaldo played for manchester united for six years, so it was natural that he'd be given a really warm welcome on his return to old trafford for a champions league match. he didn't score, but did have a hand in the only goal, which sealed victory forjuventus. his cross setting up paulo dybala. united travel to italy for the return fixture in two weeks' time. it's a team that has everything. they have talent everywhere. of course, cristiano, dybala, the talent they have in attack. the quality they have all over the pitch. manchester city manager pep guardiola said his side played the best football of his time in charge as they beat shakhtar donetsk 3—0. bernardo silva added the gloss on the performance, coming on as a substitute to score. his manager had said before the game that his side were not ready to win the champions league. today is a time to be happy, so happy, with how we played. after less recovery after burnley, to travel here and play the way we did with this personality, everybody reached perfectly what we should do. it's an incredible result, three away against shakhtar donetsk. amazing. after two defeats, tottenham take on the dutch champions psv eindhoven tonight. while liverpool are in a slightly better position, second in their group, with three points, they're at home to the serbian champions red star belgrade. england's one—day cricket captain eoin morgan said slipping to their heaviest defeat in their final game against sri lanka was not a set—back. morgan himself was among the players he rested, to give others a chance before next year's world cup. they lost by 219 runs but still won the series 3—1. we haven't played a full game on the whole tour which is disappointing but for 50 overs today we were put under some serious pressure and we didn't have a lot of answers some of the time. so it gives us a real good opportunity to go back and look at everything, from our preparation right down, break it down to the end result which was our skill, as to why we did not execute it. in tennis, the defending champion caroline wozniacki is back in contention for the multi—million pound prize at the wta finals in singapore. after losing her opening round—robin match, she beat petra kvitova for the first time in four years. it went to three sets. an extension to the rugby union season will mean players will be competing at the height of summer. it will run from september tojune, with breaks built in to give players a rest, but that won't benefit england internationals, and a number of high profile players have criticised the plans. that's all the sport for now. more from me in half an hour. the national audit office is warning that the uk is seriously underprepared for a no—deal brexit, and even if a withdrawal agreement is reached, significant challenges lie ahead. the watchdog, which scrutinises public spending for parliament says new border controls that will be needed if the uk leaves the eu without a deal — might not be ready in time. the government insists it has robust plans in place. so how well prepared are we to manage our borders in the event of ‘no deal‘ and could a lack of preparation mean chaos or are the warnings over—blown? with us in the studio we have meg hillier, chair of the public accounts committee. richard tice — businessman and pro—brexit campaigner. and alex veitch, head of global policy at the freight transport association. welcome to all of you. thank you for coming in. meg hillier, is the uk prepared for a no—deal brexit? and aru were read? absolutely. we have looked at the border for some time asa have looked at the border for some time as a committee with support from the national audit office. many of the warnings we made a year ago have come to fruition with many of these complex and intertwined projects. there is little notice for business for what they need to do to be prepared. some information has gone out to business but it has been too little, too late and still without certainty about what exact measures will be in place. the worst—case scenarios that are being talked about sound like chaos if we leave without a deal. the worst-case scenarios would be. but the government is already preparing for lorry parks on the m20 and m26, but local people in those areas are still concerned even with those contingency plans with traffic. and on the european side, if they introduce checks for imports into europe from the uk, it could cause delays on the uk side in addition to the traffic coming in. these are all some challenges and the infrastructure is not in place and it is not physically possible to put it is not physically possible to put it in place. alex, the government has said there has been planning but in place for a long time admits overblown. what's your perspective? this is the biggest challenge for logistics in a generation, that's where we are. there has been preparation under way, but with around 100 and days to go until day one, —— 150 days to go, it is not enough. we have got 150 days, if we work every one of those days from the government level and the business level to get prepared, we should be able to get through what might be a shock on day one, but maybe we can get it up and running from day ten, day 50, that is where we have to keep the pressure on. the national audit office said the new border infrastructure at ports and airports could take up to three yea rs airports could take up to three years to put in place. that depends on the volume of traffic coming through. we already do rest of world trade through ports and airports in this country commit it is a case of scaling up. stepping back from it, the big challenge is we have to convert the ways in which we trade with the eu, such as at the port of dover, the eurotunnel bought, we have to convert that to working the way that we trade with the rest of the world, and that will take time. but we think that with sufficient ha rd but we think that with sufficient hard graft between now and he wants one now and day 180, it can be made to work —— between now and day one. richard tice, what you think? many are saying that at this stage no deal isjust too are saying that at this stage no deal is just too damaging. are saying that at this stage no deal isjust too damaging. there is a huge amount of scaremongering going on from parts of the establishment are looking for any excuse to stop this order late. the reality is, with our trade with the re st of reality is, with our trade with the rest of the world we expect between “ we rest of the world we expect between —— we inspect 1% or 2% of goods coming through, there is no need to inspect everything coming through from the eu, to suggest that we have not got the infrastructure is not the case. there is a lot of scaremongering going around. as alex said, in the world of dozens, there is nothing like a short deadline to concentrate the mind, focused the attention and get things done. let's rememberthe attention and get things done. let's remember the bigger, if attention and get things done. let's rememberthe bigger, if we consta ntly rememberthe bigger, if we constantly keep saying to ourselves in this country that no deal is absolutely disastrous and we are not prepared, how bad is that for our negotiating leveraged with the negotiations with the eu? we should be saying, we will get it done and organised, no problem. if we have to work 24/7 yu, we will do it because no deal is always better than a bad job. that was a line being used for some “— job. that was a line being used for some —— than bad deal. job. that was a line being used for some -- than bad deal. we have a slogan, no deal, no problem, no money. if we have no deal, we are not going to pay £39 billion unless our negotiators are very weak. if they haven't got £39 billion of our money in the eu, they are bussed. me be clear, my committee which is made up be clear, my committee which is made up of mps of a range of views is produced a number of unanimous reports which are very concerning and raises our concerns about parakilas. it and raises our concerns about pa rakilas. it is and raises our concerns about parakilas. it is very complex in government, all of these huge processes a re government, all of these huge processes are interconnected —— in government. they haven't even managed to recruit and train all of the staff in time in order to do this. why do we need the staff? the regulations are the same after we leave, so, we don't inspect them at the moment so we don't need to inspect them on day one. what about the smaller businesses for example who don't yet know that they have to prepare for? they have to fulfil customs declarations. that will be done electronically. it is £20 billion. it is already done using the custom systems, they already use it trading with the rest of the world. currently it is 55 million customs declarations, it will go up to 260 million, that is a lot more. john thompson said that he is ready and can deal with it. john thompson said that he is ready and can dealwith it. he has been in front of our committee and said it would not be on day one, the deadlines for the system being upgraded have already slipped consistently, they are scheduled to be in placejust in time but any further slippage and they won't be. cani further slippage and they won't be. can i come in here, please, because i think you are both right, we have to make sure that the traders who trade mainly with the eu... if we wa nt trade mainly with the eu... if we want this to work we have to be telling them now exactly what they have to do. the other thing i want to say is that it's really important to say is that it's really important to get a withdrawal agreement sorted out. no deal without a withdrawal agreement is a real problem, because that means potentially a limit on the numberof that means potentially a limit on the number of british trucks which are the number of british trucks which a re allowed the number of british trucks which are allowed to drive to the eu, limit on the number of british planes that are allowed to fly to the eu. the width oral agreement should put in place the basic building blocks for the trade agreements will be withdrawal agreement. there is a legal consequence of them putting in place a withdrawal agreement, they have to do it. the argument by brexiteers for leaving was about getting control of our country. the national audit office is talking about a situation where we wouldn't have control of our borders from day one, maybe for some time. it is exactly the opposite of that, isn't it? people could exploit the borders. we haven't got control of our borders at the moment. the reality is, this isa at the moment. the reality is, this is a massive shift, we are taking back control of our borders. if it is suboptimal for a few weeks or months, we should be quite prepared to say, we can do this, because the benefits if we have a proper brexit are so enormous benefits if we have a proper brexit are so enormous it is well worth going to. this suboptimal hit small businesses very hard and some of them will not write that bump. if them will not write that bump. if the government gets technical notices in from august, it is too little, too late for those businesses to change. they need to know now, and they should have known before, what they need to do to comply. small businesses don't have the resources that large companies have. that is why the government needs to stop pushing this ridiculous chequers deal that nobody likes and nobody wants, we want a canada likes and nobody wants, we want a ca na da style likes and nobody wants, we want a canada style deal. the latest out of downing street according to leaked cabinet papers seen byjournalists at the time is that the brexit transition period could end up going on for years on a rolling basis, what would you think of that? that makes a lot of practical sense if you look at the practical machinery that has to be put in place, from the 29th of march, if we come out without a deal it would be catastrophic, i believe, if you have plans in place and they deal it will include certain buffers to allow certain businesses and organisations and the security arrangements. certain businesses and organisations and the security arrangementsm certain businesses and organisations and the security arrangements. it is extraordinary how politicians are willing to suggest that we should extend it year after year at a cost of £20 billion per year, that could fund the nhs. what about the irish border issue? what is the other answer? the irish border issue has been conflicted and inflated hugely by the other side for the negotiating purposes. their own expert, lars karlsson, in the report said the wrist no need for any affliction on the border. —— said there is no need. we are not putting up there is no need. we are not putting up the border, if you want to put up a border that you said you will not put up, that's your issue. we are not negotiating this in a proper, robust fashion, that is why we are ina shambles, robust fashion, that is why we are in a shambles, and it's got to stop. it is hugely serious, i know that border well and what is going on at that border. it is completely made up. when you think of the history around the relationship, the issues around the relationship, the issues around the relationship, the issues around the border, the good friday agreement, these are critical issues. this is why we would all agree with the prime minister, we don't want a water between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, that cannot happen. —— don't want a border. it would be a real challenge and a back doorfor border. it would be a real challenge and a back door for europe border. it would be a real challenge and a back doorfor europe into border. it would be a real challenge and a back door for europe into the uk and vice versa if there is not a proper system there. nobody wants a ha rd proper system there. nobody wants a hard border with strong border controls at the irish border, it was not thought through. everybody who was pushing the brexit did not really acknowledge this was going to be an issue, but clearly it was going to be one of the biggest stumbling blocks. we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for coming in. do let us know your views at home as well. coming up... for many young people, the only chance of getting on the housing ladder is to buy on a new estate far out of town. but a new report suggests many of those new estates lack facilities, green spaces or good transport links. it means many young couples are becoming dependent on their cars. a new app developed by cambridge university scientists could help people who suffer from contamination—related obsessive compulsive disorder, or ocd. the app shows users thirty second videos to help alleviate their ocd symptoms, and could now go on to a full clinical trial. here's one of those videos now. music we're joined now by baland jalal, who is behind the study. that was the app and how it might work. jack pridmore, who has suffered from ocd for more than 20 years. dr lynne drummond, who is the lead clinician at for national ocd services at an nhs trust. and skye bagshaw, who has ocd but has benefited from cognitive behavioural therapy. welcome, all of you, thank you for joining us. jack, first of all, people who don't maybe understand ocd, tell us more about the impact it has had on your life when it started and what it means for you? yes but of course. it first started when i was about five or six years old, which can be somewhat typical for many people, the starting age. again, a very typical fact was i didn't get a diagnosis until i was 17, which is not far off the regular time that it will take for many people to get a diagnosis. it started off in a very broad fashion, like the condition itself. so, it first started by myself noticing a stone in the road walking to school. and then the whole way to school all i was thinking about was how i needed to move the stone, because i didn't, somebody‘s car would crash and it would be my fault. i was five or six years old at this stage. so, i got to school, couldn't stop thinking about it, it was running through my head the whole way. i had to sprint out of this rule and run to sprint out of this rule and run to find where it was and move it to the side will sprint out of the school. i thought, the side will sprint out of the school. ithought, it's not the side will sprint out of the school. i thought, it's not going to be my fault this happen now. i was five or six years old. were you talking to people about these thoughts, all worth theyjust in your head —— or where theyjust in your head —— or where theyjust in your head, a little boy worrying about things like that was yellow that was my first obsession that was my first ever compulsion. it has ma nifested my first ever compulsion. it has manifested itself in lots of different ways to the more tv friendly stereotypical contamination side of things come to all sorts of different things. numbers, counting,... skye, how has ocd affected your life? it started when i was six and it got progressively worse over time to the point where sometimes ijust worse over time to the point where sometimes i just didn't worse over time to the point where sometimes ijust didn't leave my room, i couldn't leave the house. my skin was flaking. i changed several times a day, i would have several bafta day. i'd just be stuck in my mind, it was horrible. -- several laughs per day. lynne, this is something that afflict people, there are visual takes that people can pick up on, there is a lot going inside the head. what is the best way to deal with it, as far as you are concerned? the thing about ocd is it can range, and it can range from fairly minor to very severe. and in the more severe stages it is a terrible condition. there are treatments that are. there are treatments, treatments include medication or, as i think other people will describe, graded exposure and response prevention treatments, both of which are very successful. on the exposure, that's where you come in, by land, you have been working on this app and doing other research around ocd at cambridge, tell us why you are at, baland jalal? ocd, as we heard from our guests, is very debilitating, it isa our guests, is very debilitating, it is a cruel disorder. it is a prison of the mind. and we were thinking, i mean, is there a way to build some kind of therapy, design a therapy thatis kind of therapy, design a therapy that is sort of relevant for sort of our 21st—century, where we use phones, we go about it in our daily life, people look at phones. could we develop something where we could effectively treat ocd? and so the idea behind the app, there are two apps. one of the apps is worth participants or patients look at themselves washing their hands. they do this whenever they have an urge, they look at themselves washing. so, this is one of the apps. why would that work? one idea is that... what we found is that it could potentially provide some relief, thatis potentially provide some relief, that is one idea, whenever you have, you feel very disgusted and have an urge to wash or hands, perhaps we can provide a brief sort of relief that perhaps over time maybe could shake off the undesirable behaviour. and the other element to the app is seeing things like actually fake the issues? the other app, you basically watch yourself touching something very contaminated. in our study we had fa ke fa eces contaminated. in our study we had fake faeces where participants would touchit fake faeces where participants would touch it over and overfor 30 seconds repeatedly. they would watch this over the course of a week. that's the idea for the second app. it's based on traditional exposure in the sense that when you are exposed to something disgusting you eventually, habitually become less prone to anxiety when you face these kinds of things. one idea is that you can create and design a treatment that is delivered vicariously through watching yourself. it makes sense. jack, do yourself. it makes sense. jack, do you think it would have helped you? i think today it would definitely help me and i would use it as an important therapy tool. one thing to bearin important therapy tool. one thing to bear in mind is whereabouts you are in your recovery story. when i was 14, 15, in your recovery story. when i was 14,15,16, iwould worry, in your recovery story. when i was 14, 15, 16, iwould worry, looking back and understanding as i do now, that there is a potential i could swa p that there is a potential i could swap it as a compulsion and obsess about it in itself. what's encouraging for the development team and what they are talking about is they are very aware that going to they are very aware that going to the clinical stage is where they will really understand how this will work. for me today, much further along and 90% away from where i was at the age of six, i could use that too. maybe as a teenager i would use ina too. maybe as a teenager i would use in a negative fashion. it needs to be used in the right environment, medically overseen. what do you think about it? it's great we are talking about ocd. it's a condition thatis talking about ocd. it's a condition that is often forgotten about so it's great to be talking about it. the studies you have done have been donein the studies you have done have been done in subclinical patients. they are not people that have got ocd. they are volunteers. as i say, there are already effective treatments for ocd. it's great if we bring it into the 215t—century, but at the moment i think we need to go to the clinical stage and see what the outcome is. iwould clinical stage and see what the outcome is. i would also worry a bit about how watching yourself wash your hands could easily become a compulsion in its own right but i don't know that because it hasn't been tested yet. things can evolve because when you desensitised to one thing may be something else will crop up. with both jack and skye, they both started at the age of six and jack wasn't diagnosed until much later. what would you say to pa rents ? later. what would you say to parents? there is growing awareness around it. can it be nipped in the bud at the age of six? absolutely, the evidence is that the sooner, the earlier age you get treatment, the more you can nip it in the bud and get over the problem. that doesn't mean that if you are watching this and you are 65 years of age and you have had the problem for 30 years, you shouldn't seek help because you can also get help them. but it is much easier and much better when younger. thank you for coming in and sharing your thoughts. still to come... the rush to build new homes on the edge of major towns and cities is leaving many young couple overly dependent on their cars. a campaign group says many houses are being built too far out of town to walk or cycle, and lack good public transport. imagine this — you want to go on a two—week holiday of a lifetime to australia. you book the flights, and then look at travel insurance. the quote comes back at £3,000! more than double the price of your flight. this is what happened to one 22—year—old man who had been given the all—clear from the cancer non—hodgkin's lymphona three years previously. the campaign group youth cancer europe says this is just one of many examples they have of cancer survivors in the uk struggling to find affordable travel insurance, even long after treatment is finished. they want the government to bring in a "right to be forgotten" for patients — meaning that after a period of time has passed you don't have to declare your former medical condition. let's talk now to seren hughes, who has been in remission from cancer for three years and has struggled to get affordable travel insurance. brad gudger is from youth cancer europe, which is lobbying for the right to be forgotten. we're alsojoined by melissa collett, who is the professional standards director at the chartered insurance institute — the professional body for the insurance sector. and lisa cameron is an snp mp and nhs doctor, sitting on the health and social care committee. welcome to all of you and thank you for joining us. talk is through those experiences we were talking about about the cost when you have had cancer. i was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. i was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in 2015. since then i have not really been on a lot of long haulflights, just not really been on a lot of long haul flights, just generally because i have been at university. the cost of insurance is just unbelievable compared to what it was like before. so if! compared to what it was like before. so if i wanted... we went to brussels last week to present the white paper in europe, and buy travel insurance was 50 or £60, more than the flight. because you have had cancer you don't want to go without travel insurance because of the medical conditions you have, but it is so expensive that same time. it isa it is so expensive that same time. it is a huge problem that a lot of my friend ‘s and bradley's friends have experienced, so we wanted a voice, which is why we have done this. bradley, you're part of the campaign group youth cancer europe, because you have had similar experiences. each cancer experience is different and individual, but from our experience, and from meeting people across the uk and europe, we have found this is a common thread. i had a bone marrow transplant in january and common thread. i had a bone marrow transplant injanuary and got common thread. i had a bone marrow transplant in january and got the all clear. the cancer was gone by march or april. i understand my experience is quite fresh and new. so higher premiums and insurance costs i can kind of get on board with. having said that, there is a lack of transparency as to why they have made that decision. my consultant let me go to new york in september. we thought there was no issue, no risk, iwas september. we thought there was no issue, no risk, i was absolutely fine, but my travel insurance was £900, which was half of my spending money. it makes it very difficult for young people to go travelling, especially after being given the all clear. and this is five or ten years after somebody has had cancer. melissa, why are the costs of insurance so high? we totally understand the issue that people like you, and what you face with having had a previous diagnosis, wanting to travel. the profession is aware of this and wants to work with the sector and charities like macmillan and others to help improve access. that's why i was at a roundtable last week with sharon hodgson mp around access to travel insurance. all of these issues were being discussed about the high premiums. talk through what the issues are and why are the costs so high. what are the barriers for cutting it? i think it's all about options. there is a website called travel insurance explained which is designed to help consumers understand, including people with health conditions, what options they have in travel insurance. people feeling well should be able to travel, but it's also a question of where you go. on the issue of why when brad wanted to go to new york, the cost of travel insurance was hundreds of pounds, more than the cost of the ticket. why is that? the difficulty with travelling to places like the usa is the cost of health ca re like the usa is the cost of health care being so high, and the airfare element of it. lets say something we nt element of it. lets say something went wrong when you are out there, the cost of flying due back and the risk associated with having to fly somebody back who is in a very ill state. but if there was the option of going somewhere closer to home for a shorter period of time, i think the cost of the insurance would probably go down. so you are not talking about the insurance companies wanting to cut the cost... he wanted to go to new york. if he wa nted he wanted to go to new york. if he wanted to go somewhere closer to home he would have looked at those flights. what you are saying will not change that. i am here today to represent the profession. i'm not from an insurance company as such. asa from an insurance company as such. as a professional, we are looking at this issue in a lot of depth at the moment, taking part in a lot of the discussions going on with the regulator has well. so these issues like wanting to go to new york, we wa nt like wanting to go to new york, we want to address those, but i would say that it's a question of thinking about all the options available to people and looking at the medical advice around that travel as well. lisa cameron, what's your perspective? i think it has to be a measured approach. it seems to me that it's not particularly based upon what the medical practitioner is saying in your case. you could have had the all clear but the insurance still deemed that you had to pay sky—high fees. there needs to be more the insurance companies can do. on the health select committee we discussed insurance yesterday and in the event of a no—deal brexit it will come to the fore much more in parliament and we will have to look at the impact on people when they wa nt to at the impact on people when they want to travel. is the only way around this the right to be forgotten, as they have done in france? i think that is something we can certainly consider and look at. i think for those people in this situation, where it isn't at five or ten yea rs situation, where it isn't at five or ten years level at that point, we should still be looking at medically informed insurance assessments of costs. i think it is quite unfair for people, when their medical practitioner or specialist is saying that you have the all clear and the risk is low, the insurance company still rates the risk as being high. what about that? brad had the all clear. it also depends where you go. there is a website that is hosted by the british insurance brokers association that helps to signpost people to more specialist insurance providers that can look more deeply at the risks. did you find that, brad? did you get anyjoy?” at the risks. did you find that, brad? did you get any joy? i found more generic and popular insurance companies would give a flat out no. specialists, they take it into consideration but they would still be very expensive because of the service they provide. this happens when people are notjust travelling to america where you have insurance —based health care that can be more expensive, it also happens in europe. a friend went to brussels, and france for less than 24, 48 hours, and they insurance was around £400. this issue isn'tjust isolated outside europe. once you have been given the all clear by your doctors, as brad had been given, why is it any different for him to travel somewhere like new york, compared to somebody who broke their leg and it has all been fixed? they might break their late the next day when they are out there. again. is it the same sort of risk analysis and insurance company is making? the point you make, that there should be cover available for people's risks, not outside of their current health conditions, is a really good one. and transparency is an issue around the price. that is something this access to insurance roundtable is seeking to address, making the price more transparent for consumers. thank you all for coming in. a man with multiple sclerosis who spent ten years using a wheelchair is now able to walk again, after a stem cell transplant. roy palmer, who is 49, first heard about the treatment in a bbc panorama programme in 2016. hsct can be life—changing, though it doesn't work for everyone. here's a film about roy's treatment, spending hours ferrying yourself and your children in the car because where you live has no shops, no pubs, no doctor, no school and no jobs. does this sound familiar? a new report published by public transport campigners says that that is the reality for numerous young couples up and down the country today. the study, published by the organisation transport for new homes, says far too many housing developments in england are being built on the edges of towns and cities, forcing residents to rely on their cars to get around. researchers visited more than 20 estates, and found that many had very few amenties and services nearby. and town planners are now being blamed for giving these estates the green light. here to discuss this is stephenjoseph, a transport policy consultant who helped put the report together. councillor pam siggers from didcot town council. she represents the area which includes great western park development. and jonathan layzell, executive director of development at stonewater housing provider, which lets houses on the poundbury development near dorest. we are alsojoined we are also joined by stella burrows and her partner norman hancock who live on a housing development in wiltshire. welcome all of you. stephenjoseph, give wiltshire. welcome all of you. stephen joseph, give us wiltshire. welcome all of you. stephenjoseph, give us the overview, what are your concerns about what is going on with the planning? what's happening at the moment is the numbers are driving everything. irrespective of what is actually being built and where it is being built, so that what we are seeing infar being built, so that what we are seeing in far too many places is developments planned, put on the edge of town is without any access to the surrounding areas. in some cases, people have declined fences to get to the shops or cross busy roads and walk along 50 mph lorry routes. there are no local facilities, lots of car parking, no bus services. it means that everything is designed around by car. it is not a question of people choosing to use the car, they have to get the car to get places, or they find they are very isolated. let's bring in stella and norman, because you live on one of these estates. tell us what it's like where you live? well, actually, the estates themselves are fine, but nearly every house has at least two ca rs. nearly every house has at least two cars. and the buses, yes, fine if you are young and you can walk, but as you are getting older, it can ta ke as you are getting older, it can take especially my partner, about a quarter of an hour to walk to a bus stop. and then, you know, if you are lucky you can get into town, but not only that, it's the... the schools are absolutely follow—up, as our doctors and dentists. —— full up. there is no infrastructure, as such. they keep balding new houses. we've just heard today that they want to build another 450 near where we live —— building houses. build another 450 near where we live -- building houses. consulate pam siggers, —— councillor pam siggers, you are involved in everything the council does around what is going on in areas, and great western park is also in the area that you work. describe what that area is like was blocked well, people who live on great western park are happy with the houses, the developments. and there are shops, there are schools. i agree they are full up now. i think the two main problems are that there is no gp surgery, which means that if you don't have a car, depending on where you are in the estate, you have a long walk to get toa gp. estate, you have a long walk to get to a gp. now, if you are young pa re nt to a gp. now, if you are young parent with a child, that makes it really difficult and you really need a car. and also, there is a lack of buses, a lack of us provision on great western park, you know, it's really terrible. those are the two main problems with great western park will stop there is also trouble, problems with traffic around didcot generally. and with no new roads being built. so, if you are in yourcar, new roads being built. so, if you are in your car, it can take a long time to get anywhere, especially into town. so, i think the lack of gp surgeries is my main concern with great western park at the moment. louisa on text says, we have a new estate built, and on the plan there was a part and shops and doctors surgeries, but none of it was built. developers should be fined for not sticking to the plans. kevin says, we live ten minutes walk from top is in devon, —— from topless. we cannot walk into town as there is no footpath. we told the council advised pedestrians not to walk on the road, which has a 60 mph speed limit. as bus services are limited, we are on the left with the option to use a car. we continue to campaignfora to use a car. we continue to campaign for a footpath. responding to the first point from lewies about the results indicating there is going to be a whole community that is required as part of a community setup, and then it doesn't happen, how that be? well, it is because i'm afraid national planning policy trumps anything that local councils and local planners can do about this. there is a viability test, which means that if the developer says it is not viable to provide these facilities they get out of the hook. we think this is wrong. there isa hook. we think this is wrong. there is a broader problem that we are building some of these developments in the wrong place, with no public hotspot. we are not building them near railway stations or bus services. —— no public transport. and we are also designing them in ways that make it very difficult for buses to serve them, and, as you've heard, to provide footpaths. there is an issue about whether building happens and the kind of development that happens and the design of them. —— wet the building happens. the goverment‘s need to take a view on this, it is the view that overrides what local councils and planning authorities can do. jonathan layzell, you are with stone water housing and you let some of the houses in poundbury, the development that was the brainchild of prince charles, i guess you could call it. i guess it was put up there is the absolute gold and that for how things should be. describe what poundbury is like? well, poundbury isa poundbury is like? well, poundbury is a development which has got its critics, but i think what works incredibly well at poundbury is the way in which the streetscape is very integrated with the facilities which are provided so that the housing sits within an environment where you can walk and cycle to facilities and you can act to the get they easily by road as well —— you can actually get the easily. i think it is a new town which effectively has been designed around a really clear designed around a really clear design guide, for me, the most striking thing about it is not the fa ct striking thing about it is not the fact that it looks like a historic dorset town, which i think it does and it doesn't to a greater or lesser extent in different parts, but the way in which the streetscape is integrated demonstrates that good design doesn't necessarily cost very much money. poundbury was one of the 20 estates that our research looked at and it came out very well from that. all argument is supported by motoring groups like the rac foundation. poundbury says you can do development in ways that don't entrench car dependence and congest the entire surrounding road network. the council in didcot pointed out that didcot has masses of congestion, that is partly because of those big elements with no public transport and in some cases limited pedestrian access that mean that everybody gets in their cars and congest the local road network. it is an anti—motorist policy, without it being put like that. pam, we talk about it all the time, more housing is needed. yes, that's right. and there is more coming to didcot as well. there is a new development which will be even further out of town called bally park. as far as i know, there is no plans to, you know, there is no plans to, you know, increase the road capacity. these people will be further route from didcot, further out than great western park. so, you know, the whole thing is quite a worry. a worry for the future of didcot. stella, how do you feel about living where you live? well, i love where i live, i like the surrounding countryside. but i'm very worried about the fact that there are more and more houses going up and they don't really cater for the elderly. i'm getting on myself. it's my birthday tomorrow. happy birthday! thank you! but i have got a severe back problems. so, i have to use my car to be able to get anywhere because, as my partner told you, it takes me a good 15 minutes to walk to the bus. my doctor's surgery is not too far away, but i would struggle to walk there. especially as i'm a bit inclined to run late for things! so, running as i'm a bit inclined to run late forthings! so, running is no longer an option, unfortunately. i would like it to be, but it isn't. sorry... stephen, do you have some solutions for how to change this going forward? i think the rav solutions which are about national policy, but there are also local solutions too. —— tehran mac resolutions. in trowbridge, one of the areas we looked at, new developments built on the edge of town, whilst a perfectly good development next to the railway stations than stated. it seems to me that they suck my fear should be priority given to build the new development —— it seems to me that there should be priority given to there should be priority given to the new development to be no public transport networks. it is difficult and local councils like wiltshire to put a new development near public transport is the point we are right out of time. thanks you for your company today. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. your input to this programme sunshine in worcestershire, but the further north and west you are, just like yesterday, it is cloudy. clouds are affecting northern and western parts of scotland, spots of drizzle but not as wet as it was yesterday. cloud in north west england, north wales, at around that there is going to be plenty of sunshine into this afternoon, accident temperature of 13-16dc. afternoon, accident temperature of 13—16dc. through this evening and night, the cloud will stream its way a little bit further south and east would. some clear spells here and there, rain pepping up the touch across the west of scotland. overnight temperatures down into single figures, 7—9d. thursday, more cloud around compared to today but still plenty of dry weather, exception being the rest of scotland where the rain will turn heavier and temperatures down a little bit at 13 or 14 degrees. you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's 11:00am and these are the main stories this morning. queues, delays and even criminal gang activity at the uk border. that's what britain could face if it leaves the eu without a deal, according to a new report. theresa may will address tory mps concerned about her brexit plans in a 1922 committee meeting this afternoon. donald trump calls saudi arabia's response to the murder of journalist jamal hashoggi "the worst cover up ever". the bbc has seen new evidence that china is building a vast network of detention camps for muslims in its north—western region of xinjiang.

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