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it's tuesday, 16th october. welcome to bbc newsroom live. a further delay to the rollout of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. it's also suggested that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds, to ease the hardship when claimants are moved onto the system, which will see six benefits merged into one payment. the government said it always intended to introduce the benefit slowly. here's our social affairs correspondent, michael buchanan. it was meant to make things easier, bringing six different benefits into one monthly payment, but the roll—out of universal credit is already years behind schedule, and now we've learned it's going to be further delayed. the next step, moving up to four million benefit recipients onto universal credit, won't now properly start until november, 2020, more than a year later than planned. in the commons yesterday, the secretary of state hinted at such a delay. it won't be starting in january in 2019. it will be later on in the year, and then for a further year, with a small amount of people, maybe 10,000 people, we will be learning as we go to make sure it is right, and then it will increase in the roll—out from 2020 onwards. leaked documents we've seen suggest that ministers want to use the delay to make significant changes to universal credit, amid evidence that the use of food banks increases when the benefit is introduced in an area. the dwp hope to continue paying some benefits to claimants for an extra fortnight — most existing benefits are currently stopped when someone applies for universal credit — reduce the maximum reductions that can be taken from a universal credit payment, and make it easier for self—employed people to receive the new benefit. paying for the changes, which would cost hundreds of millions of pounds, still needs to be approved by the treasury. the problem we have is that it's the coming together of a big benefit change, with large welfare cuts at the same time, that is making this toxic. the government should, as a priority, both improve the operation of universal credit but also reverse some of those cuts that are making the political roll—out of this benefit so difficult. but tentative plans to also continue paying child tax credits for a fortnight, crucial to single parents in particular, have seemingly been scrapped because they were deemed undeliverable because of the way universal credit operates. the department for work and pensions said it didn't comment on leaks. michael buchanan, bbc news. michael buchanan — joins me in the studio now — another announcement of delays — when can we expect this rollout to commence? that's it, there is a further delay. this is a benefit roll—out that has been beset by problems. it was announced in 2010. this delay will ta ke announced in 2010. this delay will take it, the entire deadline, another nine months to the end of 2023, six and a half years later, it's being used to try and put measures in place that will ease the hardships for claimants moving on to universal credit. there is a sense that this process, manage migration, as it has been called, moving 4 million recipients on to universal credit, that this is really a make 01’ credit, that this is really a make or break for this benefit. it has been very much criticised. if the government failed to get this right, the benefit may be an rescue above. i think that's what's driven the delay. what do they mean by getting it right? they were claims that 3.2 million households would be more than £2000 worst song every year? are they talking about making sure that doesn't happen —— worse off. this is part of the difficulty. the problem that the government has got. those figures that you referred to come down to changes that were made to the plans for universal credit after the 2015 budget when george 0sborne was chancellor. he cut £12 billion from wealthy and that came out of universal credit. iain duncan smith has called for the restoration of universal credit. he has been told he must restore cuts that were made in 2015 to make universal crabs attractive and reduce the cuts people with experience. what we are sailing is a separate package from that, to help people over the initial stages as they move on to universal credit. those issues, how badly off some people will be, they remaina badly off some people will be, they remain a problem. thank you very much, michael. and we want to know what you think about this story, you can tweet us using #bbc newsroomlive or text us at 611211. theresa may will try to rally ministers behind her this morning at the start of a critical 48 hours for brexit. the prime minister is meeting her top team in downing street right now to update them on negotiations for leaving the european union and to see which members of her cabinet still back her. senior ministers are worried about the northern ireland backstop, the last resort to protect a northern irish border if the uk were not too skew a wider trade deal. norman smith is in downing street this morning. the pressure is growing. bring us up to date. well, up to two hours were set aside for this cabinet meeting. some ministers have already begun to dribble out after one minute 35. i don't know if that means they've reached some sort of agreement earlier than thought. i think it is the case that this cabinet, being a defining moment in truth, when theresa may's critics we re truth, when theresa may's critics were going to stand up and be counted does not look like it is going to happen. theresa may has avoided a confrontation with her cabinet critics, by pressing pause on the brexit negotiations. in other words, not putting the deal that both sides seem to be moving towards on the table, in front of the cabinet. she thinks it's unacceptable, but also because she knows she could not get it through. that was made absolutely clear last night when we had eight cabinet ministers caucusing together, meeting ahead of this cabinet meeting ahead of this cabinet meeting to work out what their strategy should be. crucially that included not just strategy should be. crucially that included notjust leading brexit supporters, but some of the loyalists within the cabinet, people likejeremy loyalists within the cabinet, people like jeremy hunt, michael gove, chris grayling. that gives you a sense of the body of opinion, and easy, about the way this is now developing. but, we are told that after the meeting, they could not reach any agreement themselves. we are ina reach any agreement themselves. we are in a holding pattern at this moment, where everyone isjust waiting to see whether theresa may can get further concessions out of the eu when she addresses them at tamara's summit. this morning, listening to some of her more vocal critics, like penny mordaunt, they we re critics, like penny mordaunt, they were being studiously loyal. no one is planning on resigning, we are doing ourjobs and trying to get the best deal for the country. we are ending the negotiations, and this is going to be a difficult time. the whole cabinet is digging in to get the best deal. are you satisfied that the primaries that isn't guaranteed alan steel? —— prime minister isn't guaranteed alan and deal. and andrea leadsom who held the meeting last night was equally supportive. are you going to tell the prime minister to change course? she's doing a very, very compared to job andl she's doing a very, very compared to job and i am fully supportive of her getting that done. is she delivering your vision of brexit? lam brexit? i am supporting her to get that done. thank you. you may see a whole load of ministers coming out of number ten, don't panic. they aren't new faces, there is another meeting going on, i presume they may well be being briefed on theresa may's brexit strategy. their signs are that theresa may is digging in for a longer game now. she is preparing to try and grinds down the eu. and, it seems, maybe her cabinet critics. that has been the hallmark of her approach to the brexit negotiations. this slow attritional approach, gradually, slowly, evolving a tragedy, trying to eke out concessions and allay concerns. to keep the wheels of the brexit bandwagon rolling ahead. it means, i think, we almost certainly won't get a deal tomorrow. we may get winning november, and we could struggle all the way into december, the pre—christmas final gasp of an effort to reach a brexit deal. 0ne other thing, there was a report yesterday on bullying in the house of commons, amongst other things, they have been calls forjohn bercow to resign, we are hearing he's granted an urgent question on that report. what can you tell us? it's very interesting. john bercow, of course, is the man who decides, one way or the other whether it urgent question should be called. he agrees to questions that he knows could turn into a highly critical occasion of his own conduct, in that report, it was clear they were deep qualms about him and whether he was the man to preside over a shake—up of change to preside over a shake—up of change to the culture in westminster, given some accusations made against him, and bullying of his staff. what will help him is this morning there were clear signs that the labour party are going to supportjohn bercow against some of the criticism. we've heard criticism from the likes of maria miller, the prominent conservative, but emily thornbury, this morning, said that she thought 110w this morning, said that she thought now was absolutely not the time to get rid of the speaker as we were approaching the critical phase of brexit negotiations. she had been told by the commons chaplain and others that he was a fine speaker. i read into that bad labour wants to hang onto john bercow read into that bad labour wants to hang ontojohn bercow because they don't want a new speaker in place who may bend to government will as we move into the meaningful vote phase of brexit. that may, actually, throw a lifeline to thank you. we don't have a time for that just yet. we thank you. we don't have a time for thatjust yet. we will have a good bit more detail on that, john mann submitted the urgent request, are suing the leader of the house, john bercow, to make a statement on the bullying and harassment of house of commons staff. we will bring you coverage of that when it happens. there's been a sharp increase in crimes of religious hatred, with over three quarters logged by the police classified as race hate. over half of religious hate crimes were directed at muslims. with us now is our news correspondentjenny kumah. tell us what the figures are. this increase could be down to better reporting, more victims being willing to come forward. but the total number of crimes is up by around a0%, a record high of 911,000. the biggest rise, in terms of different categories, has been in religious hate crime. they are about 40%. religious hate crime. they are about a0%. most are directed towards muslims. around 52% of these religious hate crimes are focused on muslims. what about prosecutions? the conviction rate has remained fairly steady over the years, 84% is the rate of conviction. that around 1% up rate of conviction. that around 1% up on the previous year. the number of cases where people have received tougher sentences, because the crime has involved or been motivated by racism and hatred of religion, that's gone up significantly, 67% of cases have now seen an uplift in sentencing. compare that with ten yea rs sentencing. compare that with ten years ago, only 3% received a tougher sentence. thank you, jenny. meanwhile, offences motivated by prejudices against men could become hate crimes along with misogyny and ageism under a home office review of the law in england and wales. here's our home affairs correspondent danny shaw. talking about hate crime, these kids at globe primary school in east london are meeting government minister lady williams to tell her what they have learnt from a course on equality and diversity. the home office is funding more projects like this as part of a new hate crime action plan. we learnt about stereotypes and we learnt not to judge people by just what they look like or just what we know about them. we should get to know them more and then judge them by their personality, not by their appearance. you don'tjudge a book by its cover, it is a good saying. you don'tjudge people by their parents. you have to be nice to people and respect them and notjudge them by the way they look or what their religion has done in the past, because everyone is different and you have to respect them. but the law on hate crime could be about to change. as well as getting schools to tackle the problem, the home office has announced a legal review. it will look at extending the definition of hate crimes to include offences motivated by a hatred of women and men. people have come to us and it is right that we ask them to look at it and maybe that we don't take it forward. it would be very interesting to hear what the law commission says. the law commission review will also consider if offences targeting older people and those from alternative cultures, such as goths, should be defined as hate crimes, though more lessons about tolerance won't be needed here. danny shaw, bbc news, tower hamlets. the charity "action on elder abuse" is calling for the abuse of older people to be made an aggravated offence in law. joining us now is their ceo, gary fitzgerald. thank you very much forjoining us. tell us what your concerns are about hate crimes against older people. we know from research there are more than1 million we know from research there are more than 1 million older people experiencing elder abuse in the uk every year. experiencing elder abuse in the uk every yea r. less experiencing elder abuse in the uk every year. less than half of 1% of that get to the criminaljustice system. these are crimes, physical assault, theft, things that if it we re assault, theft, things that if it were younger people they would receive court sentences. a lot of this ends up with perpetrators, if they reach court, ending up with suspended sentences or community service. we don't have to tyrants. we need to make a change here. this proposal is a step in the right direction. tell us what you are talking about. you mentioned physical assault, give us examples of the things that concern you. we've seen an 80—year—old taxi driver, because he couldn't find where the passenger wanted, he was beaten to a pulp to the extent that he couldn't eat for three months. we've seen people neglected to the point of death, starved, denied medication, bones broken and left like that. it's hard not to accept that the motivation is anything other than hatred. we've seen old women targeted and sexually abused, these are not getting to court. these are not a minor issues. they are serious things. if we weren't dealing with people in their 80s, they would be in court. the sentences would be deterrents, that's what we need. we need people to know that the consequences of targeting older people will be life changing. the crimes you've talked about there are obviously covered by existing legislation, whoever has been the victim, rain, beating somebody up, they could all be pursued, prosecutions could happen, why do you think it isn't happening? 0ne you think it isn't happening? one of the issues is very much the attitude that we've got throughout oui’ attitude that we've got throughout our whole system, where we don't see the impact, we don't see the importance. we think, they are in their 80s, 90s, do importance. we think, they are in their80s, 90s, do they importance. we think, they are in their 80s, 90s, do they want to end up their 80s, 90s, do they want to end up in court? this is about changing attitude of those people thinking about doing it, to prevent it. can i just interrupt... the fact is, they are not reaching court and getting the sentences. always making those decisions, if you say it is because there is a process by which it is decided that somebody is too old for it to be in their interests, who is making those decisions? in some cases people do it with all the right motivations. they don't wa nt to the right motivations. they don't want to put someone through the heartache and pain. but we also have police officers saying they won't prosecute because they don't think they'll get a conviction. in other cases the crown prosecution service doesn't follow their own system. what we do know is when we have elder abuse as an add aggravated offence, such as it is in america it works. we need to get the uk to take this on board as well. gary fitzgerald, thank you very much. an update on our headlines. the bbc has learned that the government is planning to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to make changes to the universal credit. it is in order to help claimants. a crucial cabinet meeting is taking place as theresa may tries to rally ministers at the start of a critical 48 hours in brexit negotiations. and hate crimes have reached a record high in england and wales, with every category seeing an increase. in sport england beat spain three to win the nation ‘s league. it was their first win in spain for over 30 years. northern ireland are yet to win a point in the nation ‘s league, they lost to nil away against bosnia—herzegovina. and great britain's lizzie arnold is to retire at the age of 29. she became the first briton went to 0lympian to win back—to—back medals. the us secretary of state mike pompeo has arrived in saudi arabia amid reports that the authorities there may be about to admit that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, was killed during an unauthorised interrogation. mike pompeo will meet with king salman bin abdulaziz, who flatly denied responsibility in a phone call with donald trump, according to the us president. meanwhile turkish police have, for the first time, been inside the saudi consulate where mr khashoggi was last seen. turkish officials believe mr khashoggi was murdered in the consulate by saudi agents nearly two weeks ago but riyadh has always strongly denied this. 0ur diplomatic correspondent jonathan marcus is here. so, i mean, these reports have come out of the united states arising from the phone conversation donald trump card. does it look like saudi arabia will admit that he died under interrogation and it was a mistake? we don't know for sure yet, but from the reports it looks as though the elements are being put in place, this cover story, whatever transpired in the saudi consulate we know that there has been a rapprochement between the turks and the saudis. an agreement to allow police into the consulate. a joint effort under way in turkey. 0bviously, effort under way in turkey. obviously, a separate enquiry announced in saudi arabia it sounds. almost enlisting donald trump as pa rt almost enlisting donald trump as part of the narrative, if you like. he announced after his conversation with king salman bin abdulaziz that it might be rogue killers who were responsible. you can see the pieces slotting into place. we are yet to see, and up to now the saudis say it was nothing to do with us, they seem to be shifting ground, but we haven't yet heard what the saudi narrative is precisely going to be. and there are going to be a lot of questions if that is the narrative, for example, why that team were in turkey around the time that jamal khashoggi was in the consulate. absolutely, as a cover story it is riddled with holes and inconsistencies. the problem, in a sense,is inconsistencies. the problem, in a sense, is creating a acceptable fiction, i suppose. sense, is creating a acceptable fiction, isuppose. if sense, is creating a acceptable fiction, i suppose. if one isn't too cynical, which allows everyone to move on, and other outside countries, have a key interest in saudi arabia, this is a huge embarrassment for everybody. the difficulty is that whatever the issues about saudi arabia, and human rights practices they are, what appears to be the murder of a journalist, saudi arabia remains a crucial player. it has huge economic power in the west, huge lobbying power in the west, huge lobbying power in the usa, crucially, in the donald trump administration, saudi arabia has been given pride of place in the efforts in the middle east. his son—in—law is a very close to the crown prince, they speak regularly. the administration almost seems to have taken over the saudi's stark view of the region, in which iran is the front of absolutely all evil. the question is, is that policy going to continue in the usa in the wake of this, that might be one of the longer casualties of the affair. the other aspect is yemen. a very unpopular war. 0pinion affair. the other aspect is yemen. a very unpopular war. opinion on ca lton very unpopular war. opinion on calton hill is turning against the saudis. that could be accentuated in the wake of this affair. so even if we end up with a messy situation, whereby some sort of alibi is given for the jamal khashoggi murder, as it may well be, i think the saudis will suffer consequences down the road, even if you have elements of this administration who want to pass on and retain the very close ties they have with riyadh. self harm is an issue that's normally associated with teenagers and young adults but there are concerns that it goes largely unnoticed in the over 65s. that's the conclusion of new research published in the lancet this morning. the doctor behind it has told bbc news that the issue deserves more attention, as john maguire reports. for more than 20 years, jane used to hurt herself deliberately. i was raped when i was much younger and i almost learned to be a robot where emotion was concerned. i used to bruise myself, mainly on my arms, and then after a while, people started to notice that i'd got quite a lot of bruises. self—harm comes in many forms. now, both online and in person, jane helps others in a similar position through her self—help self—harm group. we've had people come to the group where they've even been to proper therapy places and they've been told, "stop doing it, it's silly." and when you're sort of in your 50s and 60s, to be told you're silly, i think straightaway that makes them not want to reach out. in the first study of its kind, researchers from keele and manchester universities found that 90% of over—65s who self—harm were not referred for specialist mental health help and, crucially, warning signs are being missed. self—harm is a risk factor for suicide across the age range but in this study, self—harm in older people was associated with 145 times increased risk of subsequent death by suicide. and that's really important because it's a reminder to clinicians, service providers, service managers, that self—harm is a real opportunity to intervene. and psychologists say one of the reasons the group is at such a high risk is their reluctance to ask for help. younger people will talk about their difficulties and their distress using very different language in a very different way than older people do. older people, we know from the research, tend to go to their gp, talking about physical health problems rather than talking about distress or depression or anxiety, and we need to enable people to have those conversations, really. the government says more can be done. jackie doyle—price, the uk's first ministerfor suicide prevention, was appointed last week with an objective to ensure every part of the country has a prevention plan, backed by £25 million of extra funding. mental health has a profile today like never before but still, there are many who suffer in silence and all to often take their own lives. john maguire, bbc news, manchester. the duke and duchess of sussex are oi'i the duke and duchess of sussex are on tour in australia. they visited the governor general. prince harry thanked the australians for their warm welcome. thank you for the incredibly warm welcome. we generally couldn't think of a better place to announce the upcoming baby. be ita place to announce the upcoming baby. be it a boy, or girl. thank you very, very much. they also visited syd ney‘s very, very much. they also visited sydney's famous opera house. 0ur correspondence was there. day one of a16 correspondence was there. day one of a 16 day tour. they've already got suitcases worth of gifts for the nursery. stuffed animals, boots, and flowers a nd nursery. stuffed animals, boots, and flowers and cards handed out when they did a walkabout, here in australia. they were over there earlier today. hundreds of people queued for hours wanting to see them. everyone was asking about the baby and wanted to see if there was a bump or not. some people werejust keen to give congratulations. the young royals are genuinely popular here in australia. prince harry has been several times. australia doesn't always want to be part of the monarchy, and doesn't want its head of state to be 16,000 kilometres away, but the young royals are genuinely popular and the crowds did, too. we hearfrom some of those well—wishers who gathered around sydney opera house to see them. we were waiting, i'm holding the baby on the gate hoping they will see her. when they see her i was happy. i really wanted to meet her. and i got to, and i saw her, and she looked really pretty. i got overwhelmed and started crying a little bit. they were both so nice and genuine. let's catch up with the weather. here's simon. not as funny as that for many of us. some mist and fog patches this morning. lots of that is clearing away and starting to break up. some brighter spells. certainly the case in swanage. there is some sunshine in the south—east of england, blue skies here. quite warm in the south—east as well. further north, patchy rain moves in from northern ireland. gail is a fact the far north—west of scotland. temperatures 14 to 18 degrees for many of us. we've got that lovely sunshine at the moment, 21 or 22 degrees. tonight, this area of cloud works its way southwards. it will linger on across parts of lincolnshire, the midlands and the south west of england. further north and west, clearer spells. wednesday sees the best of the sunshine. still quite cloudy in central areas. temperatures down a little on today, but about 18 degrees in the south—east. goodbye for now. this is bbc news. our latest headlines... the rollout of the goverment‘s welfare reform policy is to be delayed yet again. universal credit is unlikely to be up and running before the end of 2023. the prime minister meets with cabinet ministers as she continues to try and get them behind her brexit strategy, only a day before she addresses eu leaders in brussels. there has been a surge in hate crime directed at people because of their religious beliefs, new figures show. police in england and wales say there has been an increase of 40% compared with last year's figures. now the sport. gareth southgate praised the bravery of his players after beating spain in spain for the first time in 30 years. they won 3—2 in the nations league in seville. after a brilliant display of counter attackiing football, they were 3—0 nil up by half—time. raheem sterling scored twice, his first england goals for three yea rs. captain harry kane then teed up marcus rashford for a second. kane also got the assist for sterling's second, for sterling's second. spain hadn't lost a competitive match at home for 15 years. spain dominated the second half, and pulled two back but england held on and the manager is very satisfied with how his team are playing at the moment. we had a really good summer and we had to show signs that we could step forward and we have learned a lot this, it has been a good week, two good performances, we have tried a new system, we have found out a lot about some young players who have done exceptionally well. so, yeah, i'm really happy with what everyone's done. northern ireland are bottom of their nations league group with no points after their latest defeat, beaten away against bosnia— herzegovina 2—0. but they hit the woodwork three times. they were already trailing to an eden dzeko goal when gavin whyte came off the bench, he managed to hit the post from pretty much point blank range. dzeko then scored his second. northern irealnd are now favourites to be realgated with one game against austria left to play. nile wilson will miss this month's world gymnastics championships in qatar. the olympic bronze medallist snapped finger ligaments in training on the parallel bars. he's had bad luck with injuries since the rio games two years ago and missing the worlds has really upset him. i'm sorry to dave, my personal coach, because i've done a lot of things in my career and he's not a lwa ys things in my career and he's not always been a i able to be there. i'm so gutted for you and for mum, dad, who was going to fly out there. i sorry i've ruined your holiday! fifteen—year—old british gymnast amelie morgan has won her third medal at the youth olympic games in buenos aires — silver — with an impressive floor routine. she'd already taken all—around silver and bronze on the beam. she also won five medals at the european junior championships two months ago, i've got time off to get back in the gym and work hard. i've just got to get as much as i can done before next year starts and yeah. do you think about tokyo 2020 to make that team? it is definitely something i dream about in the back of my mind, it's always there, but it's a long way off still, so just got to focus on the up coming competitions. skeleton olympic champion lizzie yarnold is retiring from the sport. she became the first british winter 0lympian to win back to back titles. she's only 29, but says it's time for a new chapter in her life and that she began contemplating her future not long after winning that second gold medal. i tried not to get my head thinking about retirement before it, because it such an important race, i wanted to make sure i totally was focussed on that. after, i think there was a couple of injuries and i was ill and ididn't want couple of injuries and i was ill and i didn't want to retire thinking it was a bad result or because i'm injured. so i've had an amazing summer of ra of rehab. now i can sit back and realise i'm proud of having an amazing ten years. the thai football team who were rescued after two weeks trapped in a flooded cave have been given a brilliant surprise. the 12 boys and their coach were appearing on the ellen degeneres show when zlatan ibrahimovic stepped out to meet them — they'd just told ellen that he was their idol. this team is more braver than me and they showed their collective teamwork and they had patience, faith and believe in other hands also. so this is probably the best tea m also. so this is probably the best team in the world. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. more now on the news that facebook has introduced measures to make political adverts more transparent. anyone wanting to publish an ad will be asked to prove their identity. every message will also be accompanied by information on who paid for it. our technology correspondent rory cellan—jones is here. what is the problem currently? what's happened over recent years is facebook has become an ever more important platform for political campaigners, they're spending huge amounts and a lot of it is invisible. they're sending messages crafted to individual. you may get a message crafted to your interest and i get one to mine. it will be different from the days you would see a poster saying vote whatever and you'd know what was going on. and the problem with that came to light, well, became more evident, first during the us election campaign in 2016 when it was found a lot of russian money had been spent on advertising on facebook and then during the eu referendum campaign here, where there was lots of controversy here, where there was lots of c0 ntrove rsy over here, where there was lots of controversy over just how here, where there was lots of controversy overjust how much had been spent by various campaign groups. so what will change? what will change is that if you want to advertise about a candidate, something that's going on in parliament, there is a sort of set list of issues that come into this. then you have to register with facebook and prove first that you're based in the uk and give your passport or driving licence, prove that you're not a russian buying ads here. and then your ad is published it must come with a message "paid for" explaining who has paid for the message. and then and i think this will be a key tool in a lot of people's armoury, there will be anarchive of every political ad and ifa anarchive of every political ad and if a party has bought ads on facebook, it will list them and how much has been spent and information about who they have reached, although perhaps not in the detail that some campaigners would like. so there is going to be more transparency, although some say not enough. that is what going to ask, will people still find ways around it, will the russians still find a way around. facebook is admitting, it said it has gone well in the united states and brazil, but it admits it is unable to stamp out all abuse and talks of well—funded adversaries, who find a way of getting around this. but this will sort of heighten the stakes and make it more difficult, but i'm sure they will be continuing —— there will be continuing abuse and it stresses how powerful a platform facebook and how big a role it has played in politics and not necessarily to the good. thank you. more than two and a half thousand organised crime groups are operating across england and wales and police say children as young as 10 are at risk of being drawn into them. gangs of criminals involved in drugs and violence are often targeting vulnerable young people to carry out criminal activities. in sheffield, a new team has been set up so that police can work with the council to identify children at risk. emma glasbey reports. early morning in sheffield, this police raid is targeting an organised crime group operating in the city. we're in! we are in! two raids are being carried out on houses in sheffield in the same time. at this address, two people are arrested on suspicion of drugs offences. we can't show you the faces of these officers, because of the serious police operations they are involved in. the main aim was the two arrests, which we're happy with, and we can proceed with our investigation. we have got further evidence to put to them in terms of this, which we've been able to locate at the addresses. so you suspect there are links to organised crime here? yes, there are, yeah. these people, they are linked to other people that we're looking into at the minute. police say there are currently 20 organised crime groups operating in sheffield city centre, and children as young as ten can be drawn into them. children can be easily manipulated and easily exploited. the risks can be fatal. that's the reality of this circumstance. we have seen young men predominantly in our city over the last number of years, who have been involved in this type of criminality, murdered. hanif was expelled from school at 14 and selling heroin at 15. he now runs the youth charity in2change in sheffield, and warns young people about the consequences of crime. he says he was exploited when he was a teenager, and now sees other young people at risk of following a similar path. these older guys want me on their team, you know, they're buying these things, they're making me feel good. i remember looking at my school friends — and this is ironic, too — thinking, you suckers. you're going to school. you have no idea what the world is. look at us, we're with these big guys. and it was actually the other way around. they were so focused and i was being exploited. so it is very, very scary and, like i said, we are trying to raise awareness to young people, show them that prison is not fun, it's not glamorous, it's not sensationalised, nor are the streets, and these people are actually not your friends. police say one crime group currently operating in sheffield is connected to 30 children. when you add the children they mix with, it clear to see how easily young people can be linked to these groups. that's why south yorkshire police is starting a new team, working alongside the council. they'll try to make sure children at risk are going to school. they'll work with housing to move families if needed. they want to spot warning signs before young people can be recruited into gangs. it's about us being able to work with families as well, to understand any changes in behaviour, changes in patterns, or different things like increased money or different access to phones and clothes and things. so just different behaviours that we don't understand. there are concerns that budget cuts to many services working with young people could have contributed to putting children at risk. i think most people are seeing that support for young people, whether it's for mental health, whether it's for young people excluded from school, or support in and around schools and, you know, families, that's slowly diminished over quite a long period of time now. so it's no surprise that there's more young people out there who might be vulnerable to being targeted by organised crime groups. raids like this one will continue, as south yorkshire police targets organised crime. the big challenge will be stopping these groups recruiting vulnerable young people. adults with severe mental illnesses are struggling to get support according to a report published by the all party parliamentary group on mental health. "core services" are found to be ovewhelmed, with patients travelling the length of the country to find treatment. the report finds that the growing demand is resulting in patients waiting months rather than weeks for treatment. the inquiry comes ahead of the nhs long—term plan next month. 7? i'm joined now by brian dow, deputy chief executive of rethink mental illness. thank you for coming n a picture yet again ofa thank you for coming n a picture yet again of a service being stretched. tell us what the figures are indicating. in a sense we have to celebrate the good first, because the view was a blue print for how we improve mental health services and if you have a mental illness you should expect the same treatment as for a physical illness. so an expectant much with a problem and people with psychosis were doing well. but those who were not well ill enough to be in hospital, but we we re ill enough to be in hospital, but we were finding more people can't get access to good support close to home quickly and they are the ones who end up in crisis and for them the situation is deteriorating. tell us more about what is happening, is there help forthcoming, but people have to travel longer distances, or are some waiting months and not getting anything? you measure one thing and that can end up skewing something else. so a big part of the problem is workforce. so if i set a standard for somebody to get an early detection of cancer, there is a good chance that will happen. because we have different people, nurses, gps, specialists and in the mental health sector we have a big problem that we don't have the workforce and we have to get more creative about how we deploy people, whether young psychology graduates 01’ whether young psychology graduates or people looking to move into those community set togs give people the access to the support they need quickly. if you don't get access to good quality treatment quickly the situation can get worse. you mentioned the parity of esteem between physical and mental health, the core target is there, the picture is going to be mixed and difficult along the way, but are we on the right path? well, we're getting there, but we are at an important juncture, as we getting there, but we are at an importantjuncture, as we develop a 10—year plan for the nhs and the government is committed to a 3.4 increase and that is welcome, if we get the same investment increase and that is welcome, if we get the same invest ment in mental health as physical health, we will fall behind. so we need a change of approach. that is notjust for what happens in the nhs, all the other things that affect people's lives, housing, welfare, that can actually make a difference between whether somebody recovers or becomes more more ill and more de pen dent on the health service, we have to look at the whole picture. thank you. in a moment we'll have all the business news, but first the headlines on bbc news: the bbc learns that the government is planning to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to make changes to its flagship welfare benefit, universal credit in order to help claimants. a crucial cabinet meeting is taking place as theresa may tries to rally ministers at the start of a critical 48 hours in the brexit negotiations. hate crimes reach a record high in england and wales, with offences against religious communities seeing a 40% increase i'm ben thompson with the business headlines. average wages — excluding bonuses — rose by 3.1% in the three months to august, compared with a year ago. that's the fastest pace in nearly 10 years, according to the office for national statistics. the unemployment rate held steady at 4%. car maker audi has been fined e800 million over diesel engines that did not meet emissions standards. audi has accepted the fine and admits responsibility. its parent company, volkswagen, has already warned the fine will hurt profits for the year ahead. scottish power will become the first major uk energy company to generate all its electricity from wind power instead of coal and gas, after selling its final gas and hydro stations to drax. we've had an update on the jobs market this morning — showing that the headline rate of unemployment remained unchanged at 4%, but the pace of wage growth has picked up. wages — not including any bonuses rose — were up by 3.1% in the three months to august compared to a year ago, that's the fastest rate in nearly 10 years. inflation — which measures rising prices — was 2.5%, so it suggests that average incomes are going up faster than prices. joining us now is ruth gregory, senior uk economist, capital economics. let's talk about a that contrast between inflation and wages, for so long prices have been going up more than what we're earning. now there isa than what we're earning. now there is a reversal? yes it seems pay growth is turning a corner and that is welcome news for households who are higher living costs. admittedly over all pay growth is lower than that prior to the crisis and just about the 2.5 inflation rate. after the year long cost—of—living squeeze, that hasn't provided much respite for consumer, but pay grades seem to be on an upward trend and we seem to be on an upward trend and we see growing competition for workers to lead to further growth. many are surprised this has nom come sooner. —— not come sooner. the unemployment rate is low, that would suggest that employers are fighting to get the best people and do that they have to pay us more. but that has not played out in the figures? no, it has been a surprise we haven't seen workers bargaining for higher wages, despite unemployment falling, but we are now starting to see that coming through in the figures. and pay grades starting to trend upwards, that does bode well for household spending power in the year ahead. you talk of the year ahead. a lot of things that could derail the figures, will employers be keeping an eye on that and say if we lose access to workers that that can come from overseas, that that can come from overseas, that could change their outlook.|j think for the moment, even the more pessimistic surveys of firms say that they will hold up pretty well. as difficulties recruiting skilled workers increase, that will encourage firms to increase wages to attract suitable candidates. for the moment, jobs growth seems likely to hold well and we are seeing a pick up hold well and we are seeing a pick up in wages, but there are uncertainties, depending on the outcome in the brexit negotiations. thank you. independent economists say the chancellor will have to raise an extra £19 billion a year if theresa may's promise to end austerity — is to happen. in its pre—budget report, the institute for fiscal studies says that would mean higher borrowing and higher taxes. i spoke to the institute's director earlier, he told me the numbers just don't add up. well, it is a pretty bold claim, given that the conservatives went to the electorate just over a year ago saying they were going to close the deficit complete my by the mid 20205. deficit complete my by the mid 2020s. well if you want to end austerity that will mean around 20 billion at an absolute minimum than is planned. if you're going to spend an extra 20 billion or so, given where we are with borrowing, you won't close the deficit entirely. that is just a big won't close the deficit entirely. that isjust a big choice won't close the deficit entirely. that is just a big choice that the chancellor faces. of course, that is just a big choice that the chancellorfaces. of course, the pressure to end austerity is very serious. the costs that are being faced by local authorities, by the prison service, by the health service, by the social care system, are very substantial and you can understand where the prime minister's coming from. in other business news.... the event has been dubbed the davos in the desert and jm morgan's chief executive said he would not attend, after tensions between the united states and saudi arabia. paul allen, who co—founded microsoft, has died at the age of 65. he had cancer. he revealed the disease's return only two weeks ago, after previously being treated for it in 2009. in a statement, microsoft co—founder bill gates says he is "heartbroken by the passing of one of my oldest and dearest friends... personal computing would not have existed without him." tesco, sainsbury‘s and asda all saw their share of the grocery market fall in the three months to october according to the latest figures from ka ntar world panel. aldi and lidl both notched up gains. aldi rose from 6.8% to 7.6% and lidl rose from 5.2% to 5.6%. paddy power betfair has been fined £2.2 million for failing to stop stolen money being gambled through its website and for failing to protect customers showing signs of problem gambling. the regulator says this is "simply not acceptable". the firm has now apologised. a quick look at the markets. paddy power, despite that fine, its shares up 2%. brent is back to about $80. shares up 2%. brent is back to about $80, but remember that tension with iran and saudi arabia putting pressure on the price. and tomorrow uk inflation figures and that is susceptible to move as brexit negotiations continue. thank you. in a moment the weather, but first let's look at some of the most striking images of the day. how about this — a robot which can do parkour. developed by the tech firm boston dynamics, the humanoid has been taught several skills during its development, including how to run, jump over objects and perform backflips. the company has suggested atlas may one day be used in search and rescue operations, although critics fear it will be used for other purposes by the military. the winner of the young landscape photographer of the year says he's still pinching himself after picking up the prize. 18—year—old, josef fitzgerald patrick, won the prize for the picture of his friend russ riding a bike at sunet near where he lives in cornwalls. now weather. i've some more pictures from our weather watchers, we had a misty start to the day. some fog that caused a few problems down towards the south of england. but that fog is clearing and we have had some sunshine streaming through the trees here in essex. but still cloudy for many of us. this is the satellite for this morning, a lot of cloud. you notice clearest of the skies are down to the south—east of england at the moment. so we have got blue skies like this at the moment in the south—east. a lovely—looking scene there. that is where you will have the highest temperatures in the south—east. 0therwise temperatures in the south—east. otherwise the cloud breaking up to give some sunshine u showery rain pushing into northern ireland and scotla nd pushing into northern ireland and scotland and into the far west parts of england and wales. temperatures warmer than yesterday. in the south—east temperatures 21 or 22 celsius. 16 to 18 elsewhere. tonight this area of cloud and patchy rain will move further south and east ward. there isn't much left on that area of cloud and rain in central areas, but it will keep temperature up areas, but it will keep temperature up at 12 degrees. during wednesday this front is a weak feature and will continue to bring a band of cloud from the south—west of england through the midlands, up to lincolnshire and there may be some rain. but not a amounting to too much. to the south—east dry with sunshine. for many of us on wednesday a lot of sunshine. it will feel chill area across northern and western areas where temperatures will be more like about 11 to 13 degrees in the north. in the south—east temperatures down by a few degrees. during wednesday night into thursday, our front continues to clear away and then we have a ridge of high pressure extending from the azores, but really making its presence felt across us and things will be much more settled on thursday. some patchy mist and fog first thing. but a lot of dry and sunny weather on thursday with some light wind and it will feel pleasant. more unsettled by the weekend. but over all for many of us some dry and fine weather. you're watching bbc newsroom live, these are today's main stories: the bbc learns that the government is planning to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to make changes to its flagship welfare benefit, universal credit —— in order to help claimants. a crucial cabinet meeting is taking place as theresa may tries to rally ministers at the start of a critical 48 hours in the brexit negotiations hate crimes reach a record high in england and wales, with every category seeing an increase facebook introduces a new tool to make political ads more transparent and gifts for the parents—to—be, as the duke and duchess of sussex continue their australian tour. good morning. welcome to bbc newsroom live. i'm joanna gosling. a further delay to the rollout of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. it's also suggested that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds, to ease the hardship when claimants are moved onto the system — which will see six benefits merged into one payment. the government said it always intended to introduce the benefit slowly .here's our social affairs correspondent, michael buchanan. it was meant to make things easier, bringing six different benefits into one monthly payment, but the roll—out of universal credit is already years behind schedule, and now we've learned it's going to be further delayed. the next step, moving up to four million benefit recipients onto universal credit, won't now properly start until november, 2020, more than a year later than planned. in the commons yesterday, the secretary of state hinted at such a delay. it won't be starting in january in 2019. it will be later on in the year, and then for a further year, with a small amount of people, maybe 10,000 people, we will be learning as we go to make sure it is right, and then it will increase in the roll—out from 2020 onwards. leaked documents we've seen suggest that ministers want to use the delay to make significant changes to universal credit, amid evidence that the use of food banks increases when the benefit is introduced in an area. the dwp hope to continue paying some benefits to claimants for an extra fortnight — most existing benefits are currently stopped when someone applies for universal credit — reduce the maximum reductions that can be taken from a universal credit payment, and make it easier for self—employed people to receive the new benefit. paying for the changes, which would cost hundreds of millions of pounds, still needs to be approved by the treasury. the problem we have is that it's the coming together of a big benefit change, with large welfare cuts at the same time, that is making this toxic. the government should, as a priority, both improve the operation of universal credit but also reverse some of those cuts that are making the political roll—out of this benefit so difficult. but tentative plans to also continue paying child tax credits for a fortnight, crucial to single parents in particular, have seemingly been scrapped because they were deemed undeliverable because of the way universal credit operates. the department for work and pensions said it didn't comment on leaks. michael buchanan, bbc news. earlier i spoke to michael about the wider implications of the changes to the benefit system — which has been beset with problems since its inception in 2010. this new delay, which will take the entire deadline another nine months, to the end of 2023, six and a half yea rs later to the end of 2023, six and a half years later than originally scheduled is being used to put measures in place that will ease the hardships some claimants have found as they moved on to universal credit. there is a growing sense that this process, managed migration, moving around 4 million benefit recipients onto universal credit, the next major stage, this isa credit, the next major stage, this is a make or break for this benefit. there has been so much criticism of it but if the government fails to get this right, then the benefit may be an rescue above. that's what's driven this delay. what do they mean by getting it right? there were claims that 3.2 million households would be more than £2000 worse off every year. are they talking about making sure that doesn't happen? there are a number of things happening at the same time. that's pa rt happening at the same time. that's part of the difficulty. those figures, effectively, come down to changes made to plans after the 2015 budget, when george osborne was chancellor. he cut £12 billion from welfare. that money came out of universal credit. they have been calls for iain duncan smith to restore calm he was the father of universal credit, there are calls for him to restore the cuts made in 2015 to make universal credit more attractive and reduce the cuts that people will experience. what we are seeing is a separate package to try and have people over the initial stages as they move onto universal credit. those issues as to how badly off some people will be when they are on benefits remain a problem for the government. meanwhile, the employment minister alok sharma defended the government's universal credit policy. i think what is important when you talk about the welfare system is to make sure it's sustainable, that we are getting help to the people who need it most. and, ultimately, we are fed to the taxpayer. if you look at the benefit system it had effective tax rates of 90%. it is this incentivised work. that has changed. and universal credit it is working. for the first time, we are providing personalised support for people. the figures speak for themselves. we've always said that it isa themselves. we've always said that it is a test and learn approach. as we test, and learn, we adapt. earlier this year we put in £15 billion to support claimants, clearly, this is a process. the key thing is that we are seeing more people getting into work, staying in work, and getting paid more. don't forget, you can let us know what you think tweet us using #newsroomlive. all the ways to contact us on screen right now. a crucial cabinet meeting is underway as theresa may attempts to rally ministers behind her at the start of a critical 48 hours for brexit. last night a number of senior ministers are understood to have discussed their concerns about her proposals during a meeting over pizza. they're worried about the so—called northern ireland backstop — a position of last resort, to protect an open irish border in the event that the uk leaves the eu without securing a wider trade deal. for more on this let's cross to our assistant political editor norman smith who is in downing street. there has been a cabinet meeting this morning. bring us up to date. it is still trundling on. we had a dribble of ministers coming out about half an hour or so ago. the bulk are still inside. this has been going on now for around two and a half hours. two hours were set aside, which gives some sense of the gravity of the moment. the importance of the issues that are now being addressed following this deadlock in negotiations. however, there is, at the moment, no sign of a revolt all new to me, which david davis and other brexit supporters have been calling for. demanding that members of the cabinet stand up to theresa may, assert their authority and get her to move away from her chequers deal. all sides, certainly the ministers cited as most critical of theresa may, people like penny mordaunt and andrea leadsom, this morning they sounded pretty supportive. penny mordaunt ruled out resigning, and significantly, last night we had a meeting of around eight cabinet ministers in the office of andrea leadsom, a pre—cabinet caucus, where they were going to holy strategy. at they were going to holy strategy. at the end of which they failed to reach any clear consensus on what the strategy should be. that is because mrs may has put the whole process on hold. she has paused negotiations, she's not brought a firm proposal to the cabinet today, instead, their hope, seems to be, to go to brussels tomorrow, and convince eu leaders to back down over their controversial proposals on the backstop. thank you, norman. the speaker, john bercow, has granted an urgent question on the probe into bullying and harassment at the house of commons. the report by dame laura cox found ‘urgent and serious problems‘ in the way abusive behaviour by mps and staff is dealth with in parliament. mr bercow has faced calls to resign as speaker from the chair of the women and equalities committee maria miller—— who says ‘bullying and harassment is coming from the top down and it's not right for the current speaker to oversee reform. let's talk no to a labour mp who sits on the independent parliamentary standards authority. thank you forjoining us, sir kevin. you think you should go? could i just say that i you think you should go? could ijust say that i was chair of the standards committee until yesterday, when my colleague, kate green, took over. but, i have been the chair of the standards committee for eight years, and i am deeply worried and not surprised by the contents worried and not surprised by the co nte nts of worried and not surprised by the contents of the report published yesterday. you think thatjohn bercow should 90, you think thatjohn bercow should go, do you? it's clear there's been a lack of leadership for a considerable time in terms of the culture that makes the house of commons, or houses of parliament, for some people, not a safe place to work. i think the speaker has responsibility for that. as chair of the standards committee in 2012 we try to toughen up the code of conduct by putting a report on the floor of the house, it was amended by the three major political parties, it effectively said that the independent parliamentary commission couldn't investigate some behaviour, of some members. i tell you that the committee were so frustrated, i went to see the speaker at the time and told him of my frustration. i told him it was against the principle of an independent investigating mp, and got no assistance whatsoever. the report said yesterday that this culture inside parliament hasn't changed, isn't changing, and we need leadership that will change it. john bercow is not that leader, as far as the speaker would play in changing the speaker would play in changing the culture. how much would he going change things though? what is described, as you're saying, is a culture. in her report yesterday, dame laura cox said that what she has seen in the commons is a reminder of the bad old daysin commons is a reminder of the bad old days in other environments. it is extraordinary that it's been allowed to continue. that's not down to one individual. the report is very clear about that. what's important, is that they need to have change from the top. she says that, it's notjust aboutjohn bercow, but others as well. should others go to? if you read the report, its there for everyone to read, it is clear that there needs to be changed. there's no question about that. we must remember that dame laura cox was asked by the speaker to do this independent investigation. that was running alongside the work done by the leader of the house in toughening up the code of conduct, which the standards committee, and also, bringing in the issue of sexual harassment and bullying into the process as well. setting up a rule against that. this was found, while all that was happening, is quite shocking. thank you, sir kevin barron. facebook has brought in new rules for political advertising on the social network in the uk. from now on anyone running a political advert will have to prove their identity, and say who has paid for it. this system is already in operation in the united states and brazil. more on today's main stories coming up on newsroom live here on the bbc news channel, but now we say goodbye to viewers on bbc two. figures released this morning show that wages have risen at the fastest pace for nearly ten years. average earnings excluding bonuses rose by 3.1% in the year to august. britain's busiest railway stations have seen half of all train services delayed by one minute or more this year according to research by which. manchester oxford road station is the least punctual with two thirds of services delayed. york, gatwick airport and birmingham new street we re airport and birmingham new street were also amongst the nations that experienced lots of delays. they all saw less than 40% of trains arrive on time. the headlines on bbc news... the bbc learns that the government is planning the us secretary of state has arrived in saudi arabia. in saudi arabia amid reports in the us media that the authorities there may be about to admit that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, was killed during an unauthorised interrogation. mike pompeo will meet with king salman bin abdulaziz, who flatly denied responsibility in a phone call with donald trump, according to the us president. turkish officials believe mr khashoggi was murdered in the consulate by saudi agents nearly two weeks ago but riyadh has always strongly denied this. i've been speaking to our diplomatic correspondent jonathan marcus and asked him whether it looked as though saudi arabia would admit that mr kashoggi died under interrogation. certainly, from the reports coming out of the united states it looks as though the elements are being put in place, for this kind of cover story. whatever did transpire in the saudi consulate we know that there has been something of a rapprochement between the turks and the saudis, an agreement to allow police into the consulate. ajoint effort agreement to allow police into the consulate. a joint effort in agreement to allow police into the consulate. ajoint effort in in turkey. 0bviously, consulate. ajoint effort in in turkey. obviously, a separate enquiry was announced in saudi arabia itself. almost enlisting mr trump as part of the narrative, if you like, with him announcing after his conversation with king salman bin abdulaziz that it might have been rogue killers who were responsible, in the words of donald trump. you can see the places shouting into place. the saudis have said it's nothing to do with us, we know nothing about it. they seem to be shifting ground but we haven't heard what the new saudi narrative is going to be. and they will be a lot of questions if that is the narrative that comes out? for example, why was it bad team of saudis went to turkey for 24 hours around the time that jamal saudis went to turkey for 24 hours around the time thatjamal khashoggi was in the consulate? absolutely, as a cover story it is riddled with holes and inconsistencies. the problem here, ina sense, inconsistencies. the problem here, in a sense, is creating a acceptable fiction, i suppose, in a sense, is creating a acceptable fiction, isuppose, if in a sense, is creating a acceptable fiction, i suppose, if one isn't too cynical, which allows the saudis, the turks, to move on. and crucially, other outside countries with a key interest in saudi arabia. it's a huge embarrassment for everybody. the difficulty is that whatever the issues about saudi human rights practices, what appears to be the murder of a journalist in a saudi arabia remains a crucial player. it has huge economic power in the west. a huge lobbying power in the west. a huge lobbying power in the usa. but crucially, in the trump administration, saudi arabia has pride of place, in his efforts in the middle east. his son—in—law, jarrod kushner, is close to the crown prince, they speak regularly. the administration seems to have taken over the saudi's manichaeans start view of the region, in which iran is the front of all evil. so the question is, is that policy in the question is, is that policy in the usa going to continue in the wa ke the usa going to continue in the wake of this? that might be one of the longer casualties of the affair will stop the other aspect is yemen. it's very unpopular, opinion is turning on capitol hill against the saudis. that could be accentuated in the wake of this affair. so even if we end up with a messy situation, where, you know, some sort of alibi is given for the jamal khashoggi murder, as it may well be, i think the saudis are going to suffer consequences down the road, even if you have elements of this us administration want to pass on and retain the close ties they have with riyadh. their bbc has learned the government is planning to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to make changes to the welfare benefit, universal credit to help claimants. a crucial meeting is taking place as theresa may tries to rally ministers at a start of a critical 48 hours in the brexit negotiations. hate crimes reach a record high in england and wales, every category sees an increase. let's join captain for the sports update. gareth southgate has praised his england players after beating spain in spain for the first time in 30 years. they won 32 in seville, raheem sterling scored twice, his first goals for three yea rs. twice, his first goals for three years. gareth southgate was very satisfied with how things have gone. we had a really good summer, and we had to show signs that we could step forward. we've learned a lot this week. it's been a really good week. we've tried a new system, we found out a lot about some young players who have done exceptionally well. so, yeah, i'm really happy with whatever body has done. northern ireland are bottom of their nations league group with no points after they lost 2—nil away to bosnia—herzegovina. edin dzeko scored both their goals, and northern ireland missed a good few chances. we had got ahead in the game and then the dynamic changed. george hit then the dynamic changed. george hit the post. there was a chance before that as well where we should have scored. we were punished for a mistake, you know, bosnia press does very well but we didn't give them opportunities. i think we had very well but we didn't give them opportunities. ithink we had half very well but we didn't give them opportunities. i think we had half a chance, but young jamal, they punished us. (15—year—old british gymnast amelie morgan has won her third medal at the youth olympic games in buenos aires, silver with an impressive floor routine. she'd already taken all—around silver and bronze on the beam — and that after winning five medals at the european junior championships two months ago. i've got a bit of time off to get back to the gym. i've just got to get as much as i can done before next year starts. do you think about tokyo in 2020? making the team ? tokyo in 2020? making the team? it's something i dream about in the back of my mind, it's always there but it's a long way off. i've just got to focus on the upcoming competitions. definitely one to watch. skeleton 0lympic champion lizzie yarnold is retiring from the sport. she became the first british winter 0lympian to win back to back titles. she's only 29 but says it's time for a new chapter in her life and that she began contemplating her future not long after winning that second gold medal. i try not to get my head thinking about retirement beforejung chang, ijust about retirement beforejung chang, i just wanted to about retirement beforejung chang, ijust wanted to make sure i was focused on that. then afterwards there were a couple of injuries, i was ill, and i didn't know well it would go. i didn't want to retire thinking it was a bad result. i had an amazing summer of rehabilitation, the medical team were fantastic. now ican sit the medical team were fantastic. now i can sit back and realise that i'm super proud of having an amazing ten yea rs. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. let's return to our earlier story — the rise in hate crime and a dramatic spike in incidents directed at people due to their religious beliefs. police in england and wales say religious hate crime has increased by 40% and hate crimes overall have risen by 17% compared with last year's figures. tell us more about those figures, jenny? the total number of hate crimes, could be down to the fact that more people are coming forward. more people are willing to and there is better reporting. the biggest increase has been in religious crimes. they are up by 40%. the home 0ffice crimes. they are up by 40%. the home office says this could be down to the terror attacks in westminster, london bridge, manchester arena. the majority of these crimes are directed towards muslims. there has also been an increase across a range of categories, race hate crimes are up of categories, race hate crimes are up 14%. sexual orientation crimes are up by 27%. 30% for disability and 32% for transgender. what is the government doing? it's refreshing its hate crime plan. it will launch a public awareness campaign to educate people about what hate crime is and improve security around vulnerable places of worship. they will provide specialist training for call handlers to better support victims. thank you. meanwhile offences motivated by prejudices against men could become hate crimes along with misogyny and ageism. here's our home affairs correspondent. talking about hate crime, these kids at globe primary school in east london are meeting government minister lady williams to tell her what they have learnt from a course on equality and diversity. the home office is funding more projects like this as part of a new hate crime action plan. we learnt about stereotypes and we learnt not to judge people by just what they look like or just what we know about them. we should get to know them more and then judge them by their personality, not by their appearance. you don'tjudge a book by its cover, it is a good saying. you don'tjudge people by their parents. you have to be nice to people and respect them and notjudge them by the way they look or what their religion has done in the past, because everyone is different and you have to respect them. but the law on hate crime could be about to change. as well as getting schools to tackle the problem, the home office has announced a legal review. it will look at extending the definition of hate crimes to include offences motivated by a hatred of women and men. people have come to us and it is right that we ask them to look at it and maybe that we don't take it forward. it would be very interesting to hear what the law commission says. the law commission review will also consider if offences targeting older people and those from alternative cultures, such as goths, should be defined as hate crimes, though more lessons about tolerance won't be needed here. danny shaw, bbc news, tower hamlets. 0fficial official figures so that wages have risen since august. i'll finance correspondent is here with the details. that sounds like a healthy picture. it's welcome news for families having to content with higher bills, for gas and electricity, petulant things in supermarkets. it is significant for two reasons. it's the fastest increase in wages, the private sector is even faster, since the end of 2008, 3.1% rise. since early summer we've seen wages, on average, growing at a faster rate than prices in the shop. what we call inflation. that means we are gaining ground in the battle to keep up with the cost of living. but before we throw our hearts in the area, lots of families will feel they are up against it. the average wage, around £492 a week, is still not enough, in comparison with what people were earning before the financial crisis. there is ground to be made up. it's going well, we are making up the ground, but families will still feel worse off. unemployment figures are also out today. not much change there. we have the lowest rate of unemployment for decades, since the 19705. it's been stuck at 4% of the workforce for a little while now. we don't know whether that is on the turn. the number of jobs don't know whether that is on the turn. the number ofjobs in most sectors has been going up. the only one that seems to have suffered is retail, which, 70,000 jobs have been lost over the last year. shops are under pressure, and this is the effect of that. 0ver under pressure, and this is the effect of that. over all the job situation seems to be pretty good. that's partly what is putting pressure on employers to put up wages. they are finding it difficult bind people to take on. let's join susan for the weather. good afternoon. a murky start across england and wales. low cloud, patches of mist and fog. the skies cleared nicely though. we start to see the sun becoming widespread across east anglia and the south east. we could see or 23 degrees. slightly different in the north—west, a weather front pushing some rain into scotland and wales, maybe not especially heavy, but slow moving across the south west of england. showers for scotland and northern ireland, easing into wednesday morning. wednesday, definitely the northern half of the uk getting the best of the dry weather. further south this were found lingering. 0utbreaks weather. further south this were found lingering. outbreaks of rain. a different looking day for the south—east tomorrow, and a cooler one with temperatures in the high teens. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: the rollout of the goverment‘s welfare reform policy is to be delayed yet again. the bbc understands universal credit is unlikely to be up and running before the end of 2023. the prime minister meets with cabinet ministers as she continues to try and get them behind her brexit strategy, only a day before she addresses eu leaders in brussels. there has been a surge in hate crime directed at people because of their religious beliefs, new figures show. police in england and wales say there has been an increase of 40% compared with last year's figures. the speakerjohn bercow is granted an urgent question in the house of commons on bullying. and the duke and duchess of sussex have been on their first public outing since it was revealed that they are due to become parents. the couple are in australia for an overseas tour and were given baby presents as they met australia's governor—general. saudi arabia is under pressure to explain the fate of journalist jamal khashoggi. the us secretary of state is in riyadh — he's already met king salman and we're waiting to hear the kingdom's explanation of events. mr khashoggi was last seen entering the saudi consulate in istanbul two weeks ago. turkish officials believe mr khashoggi was murdered and there are reports it happened during an interrogation that went wrong. with the details, naomi grimley reports. turkish crime scene investigators leaving the saudi consulate in istanbul last night of an eight—hour search, but it is two weeks after the journalist jamal khashoggi was last seen walking into the building. his continued disappearance means uncomfortable questions have been building up. he b he had been there to collect divorce papers, but there are no pictures of him leaving and t turkish authorities believe he was the victim of a murder. under international law both the forced disappearance and extra judicial killing are serious crimes and immunity should not be used to impede investigations. two weeks is a long time for a possible scene of crime not to be subject to investigation. it was all smiles as king salman met mike pompeo. yesterday, the president floated the idea it may not necessarily have been a state—sanctioned killing as many believe. the king firmly denied any knowledge of it. he didn't really know, maybe, i don't want to get into his mind, but it sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers, who knows? we're going to try getting to the bottom of it soon. but his was a flat denial. so why might jamal khashoggi have suddenly vanished. he had once been close to the saudi royal family, but after he moved to america he began writing for the washington post and voiced misgivings about the ruling prince salman. mystery surrounds the two planes seen landing in turkey of the day of his disappearance. the turkish authorities the believe a 15—man team left the planes to silence him. saudi arabia has denied anything untoward took place. but there is speculation they may reveal it was an interrogation gone wrong. 0ne things remains clear, the vanishing of a journalist will continue to haunt international diplomacy until a plausible explanation is given. earlier in the hour we heard about the rise in hate crime, and a dramatic spike in incidents directed at people due to their religious beliefs. police in england and wales say religious hate crime has increased by 40% and hate crimes overall have risen by 17% compared with last year's figures. the figures were revealed as the home office announced a review into whether offences motivated by misandry — prejudice against men — should be classed as hate crimes. if so, it could lead to tougher sentences. the charity "action on elder abuse" is calling for the abuse of older people to be made an aggravated offence in law. their ceo, gary fitzgerald, joined us earlier. is there more an a million older people experiencing elder abuse, these than half a 1% reaches the criminal justice system these than half a 1% reaches the criminaljustice system and these are crimes — we are talking about assault, theft and rape and if it we re assault, theft and rape and if it were younger people, they would receive court sentences that matter. a lot of this ends up with perpetrators if they do reach court ending up with community service. we don't have the deterrence that we need. we need to make a change and this proposal is a step in the right direction. tell us about the sort of things that you are talking about, you mentioned physical assault, give us some examples of things that are concerns. we have seen an older taxi driver an 80—year—old, because he couldn't find where the passenger wa nted couldn't find where the passenger wanted got beaten to a pulp. we have seen people neglected to the point of death, starved, denied medication, bones broken and left like that. it is hard not to accept that people's motivation is anything other than hatred. we have seen old women targeted and raped and these are not getting to court. so we're not talking about minor issues, but senior things that if we weren't dealing with people if their 80s, they would be in court and the sentences would be deterrents and thatis sentences would be deterrents and that is what we need. we need people who are targeting older people to know the consequences will be life—changing if you do this and make them stop and think. the crimes you talk about are all covered by existing legislation, whoever has been the victim, rape, beating somebody up, they're all crimes that could be per sued, why do you think thatis could be per sued, why do you think that is not happening? one of the issues about about the ageist attitude we have throughout the system, we're not seeing the impact, we are not seeing the importance, we are thinking in their 805 or 905 would they want to end up in court. but this is about changing the attitude of society and those who are thinking of doing it. the fact is the crimes are not reaching court and not getting the sentences. the system is not working. more than two and a half thousand organised crime groups are operating across england and wales and police say children as young as 10 are at risk of being drawn into them. gangs of criminals involved in drugs and violence are often targeting vulnerable young people to carry out criminal activities. in sheffield a new team has been set up so that police can work with the council to identify children at risk. emma glasbey reports. early morning in sheffield. this police raid is targeting an organised crime group operating in the city. we're in! two raids are being carried out on houses in sheffield at the same time. at this address, two people are arrested on suspicion of drugs a offences. we can't show you faces of the police officers, because of the operations they're involved in. the main aim was the two arrests and we have further evidence to put to them, which we have been able to locate at the addresses. you suspect there are links to organised crime here? yes there are yes, these people, they are linked to other people that we are linked to other people that we are looking into. police say there are looking into. police say there are currently 20 organised crime groups operating in sheffield city centre as children as young as ten can be drawn into them. children can be easily manipulated and exploited. the risks can be fatal. that is the reality. we have seen our young men predominantly in our city who have been involved in this type of criminality murdered. hanif was expeued criminality murdered. hanif was expelled from school at 14 and selling heroin at 15. he now runs a charity that helps young people. he now sees other young people at risk of following a similar path. the older guys want me on their team and are buying things. i remember looking at my school friends, thinking, you suckers, you have no idea, look at us with these big guys. but it was the other way around, they were focussed and i was being exploited. we're trying to raise awareness and showing that prison is not fun and these people are not your friends. police say one crime group in sheffield is connected to 30 children. when you add the children they mix with, it is clear how easily young people can be linked to these groups. that is why south yorkshire police are starting a new team working alongside the council to try to make sure children at risk are going to school and will work with housing to move families if needed. they want to spot warning signs before young people can be recruited into gangs. it is about us being able to work with families, to understand changes in behaviour or different things like increased money, or different access to phones and clothes. so just different behaviours that we don't understand. there are concerns that budget cuts to many services working with young people could have contributed to putting children at risk. i think most people have seen that support for young people, whether it is for mental health, for young people excluded from schools, that has diminished over a long period of time. it is no surprise that there is more young people out there who might be vulnerable to being targeted by organised crime groups. raids like this one will continue, as south yorkshire police targets organised crime. the big challenge will be stopping these groups recruiting vulnerable young people. now to the house of commons, because universal credit is about to because universal credit is about to be discussed. frank field is asking an urgent question. i always make that mistake, will the minister make a statement for... for these young members. i am starting my career as an independent. will the minister make a statement on the policy on universal credit. i note the precise wording of the urgent question from the honourable gentleman for whom i have a great deal of respect. i know that he cares deeply about welfare matters and is an excellent chair of the committee. he, his committee, the committee. he, his committee, the whole house has a right to hold the whole house has a right to hold the government to account. now, i do not wish to be unhelpful, mr speaker, however, some of the matters that he perhaps is going to be alluding to are the subject of speculation in the media. there has beena speculation in the media. there has been a great deal of speculation about universal credit in the last few days. and i cannot and will not comment on speculation. but when it comes to the roll out, we have long said that we will take a slow and measured approach to managed migration. that is why we will continue to take a test and learn approach, acting on feedback and improving the system as it rolls out. by december 2018, improving the system as it rolls out. by december2018, euan improving the system as it rolls out. by december 2018, euan vestal credit —— universal credit will be in everyjob credit —— universal credit will be in every job centre credit —— universal credit will be in everyjob centre in the country. people making new claims now apply for universal credit. next year, we will start the wider process of moving people from the old system on to universal credit. the process will begin next year in a measured way with no more than 10,000 people moved to ensure the system is working and to make any necessary adaptations as we go. we have said the managed migration process will ta ke the managed migration process will take place from 2019 to 2023.” think mr speaker, i'm gratefulfor that answer. i would be more grateful if we would get answers to these questions which i will put five in the two minutes i'm allowed. first, will the government commit itself to ensuring that everybody who is transferred from the existing benefits to universal credit is not made worse off, does not lack income, does not face hunger or destitution and for that end first will he give a guarantee that existing payments of benefit will continue to claimants picking up the universal credit? secondly, on debt recovery, it is welcomed the rumour given to the papers paper of a reduction claw back from 30%. that doesn't cover all other debts. will he guarantee to the house that nobody will face the situation where their debt repayment cancels their benefit payments. thirdly, will he implement the recommendations 5 to ensure the brave people who try to save themselveses from poverty are encouraged and not discouraged. those who find work, would he give a guarantee that their payments for child care will be made up front and not a month in arrear. and fifthly, given that this benefit is designed for people on monthly payments, not for people on monthly payments, not for poorer working people, who gets their income on a daily or weekly basis, will he wish me luck when i meet the secretary of state this afternoon that we need a sit zen's bank which will help people manage their money once all those reforms are in place and none of them face hunger, destitution or losing their homes? minister. i thank hunger, destitution or losing their homes? minister. ithank the honourable gentleman for his comments. perhaps i could go through them in turn. he raised the issue about the issue around managed migration. we have made our draft proposals available to the social security advisory committee and people can see them. we have received recommendations from the committee and we will publish our feedback on that. with regard to making sure that anybody who is on benefit when they're transferred across, we have made it clear there will be transitional protection in place and we have said that the 500,000 people on severe disability premium will be product o' —— protected. we implemented in 1.5 million of support. 0n protected. we implemented in 1.5 million of support. on that side of the house they did not support the proposals and i hope they will. when it comes to debt recovery, he talked about a rumour, i'm not going to comment on rumours. but as he knows, currently maximum deductions are 40%. we're helping people with the new enterprise allowance and supporting people develop business plans and as a party, which is the champion of entrepreneurs, that is the right thing to do. for child care, of course, he will know that up care, of course, he will know that up to 85% of child care costs are re cove ra ble up to 85% of child care costs are recoverable under universal credit and that is an important improve bgs that ment that has been made. as regard to his meeting with the secretary of the state, i'm find he will find that useful. there is pressure on time and there will be a debate on this important matter tomorrow. it may not be possible to accommodate everyone, but the chances will be better if there are pithy questions to be exam my if led by exemplified by mrjacob rees mogg. the aim of reducing benefit is laudable. can my honourable friend ensure that people don't lose out in the transition? my honourable friend is right, under the legacy benefit system, some people did face effective tax rates of 90%. as i have said, those who are on legacy benefits that we migrate of course will receive protection. universal credit is causing hardship and conflicting statement from the government have caused confusion. first, we were told austerity is over then first, we were told austerity is overthen and then first, we were told austerity is over then and then that families will lose up to £200 a month. next the prime minister said that nobody would be worse off, but the secretary of state confirmed that some families would be. so, will the government publish its impact assessments for the next phase. how many households will be worse off as a result of making a claim for universal credit. can the minister tell us are citizen's advice, the child poverty action group, the residential landlords association, the national housing federation, the national audit office and two former prime ministers scaremongers. we call on him the to stop euan vestal credit. there is no confusion on the government benches, the confusion is opposite. the shadow chancellor talks about abolishing universal credit. others talk of reforming it. there is no clarity from that side of house. they oppose everything and they have the solution to nothing. when it comes to hardship, as l have said, we did introduce an extra £15. 1.5 million. she didn't support that and when it comes to protecting people i have made clear that we're going to have transitional protection and protection for the half a million people on severe disability prum yum. —— premium. there are 700,000 people who are not getting the benefits they require, thatis getting the benefits they require, that is 2.4 million pound of underpayment and that will change. she talks about, finally, citizen's advice, and l she talks about, finally, citizen's advice, and i hope she will welcome the partnership that we have announced with citizen's advice to help the very vulnerable. more women in work, youth unemployment down and re cord in work, youth unemployment down and record low unemployment since the 19705, what role has universal credit played in delivering that 5ucce55? credit played in delivering that success? i was in this house in 2010 when we had to come in to sort out the mess left by the last government and they told us as a result of their policies, there would be a million le55job5. there are over three million more jobs and they should be welcoming the jobs figures today. my honourable friend is right, unemployment at the lowest level since 1975. youth unemployment ata level since 1975. youth unemployment at a record low of more than half since twenty ten and when it comes to wages for the seventh month in a row outpacing inflation. the house is in an excitable state. this is a matter of seriousness and this passion and l matter of seriousness and this passion and i respect that, but i'm keen to accommodate as many people as possible. the roll out of universal credit reaches kettering tomorrow. the honourable gentleman has some trouble when there is a lot of noise. it is everybody's fault and not mine. i'm coming to the honourable gentleman. thank you for granting this question. in spite of what the minister has said, which i think was a return to the flat earth rhetoric that was represented to by the bbc, but it appears the secretary of state is finally starting to recognise what her predecessors failed to and that is the problem with universal credit. it won't fix the misery in areas where it has been rolled out in scotland. the second of state hinted to me yesterday that she has made requests of chancellor for additional funding. in that regard, we should have the chancellor sat there, listening to those proceedings as who how to make universal e credit works. if he won't comment on rumours, why won't he be straight with the house and tell kwlaus the plans are? . doesn't he accept and agree with me that the many concerned expert groups that need, that have called for a halt to the roll out, dramatic and fundamental intervention and then for a full review of universal credit? as i have said, i'm not going to comment on rumours. the secretary of state was... equally clear yesterday that matters for the budget are those for the chancellor and the prime minister and indeed the chancellor will be here in a couple of weeks and he can ask questions then. with regard to the plans for managed migration, i have set them out and the final point i would say is again if he is keen for universal credit to work properly, he should support the measures that we have brought in and the measures we have brought in and the measures we will bring in to support the most vulnerable. the honourable lady talked of the 1.5 million. the debate was in march and she didn't support the 1.5 million for if most vulnerable. the roll out reaches kettering tomorrow and there are 7,700 households on legacy benefits, can the minister assure people that all the system and training is in place to ensure a smooth migration? i'm grateful to my honourable friend for that question. when we actually do the roll out of universal credit, which will be completed by the end of the year, we ensure that there is full training given to work coaches and local mps are invited in to have and local mps are invited in to have a discussion withjob and local mps are invited in to have a discussion with job centres. and local mps are invited in to have a discussion withjob centres. i have been to a number of centres where universal credit will be rolled out and they have been satisfied with the roll out. with regard to managed migration that will take place and we will make sure we get our processes absolutely right. universal credit rolled out in wirral at the start of year and in the first six months of year there was a 34% increase in food bank usage, that is over 30 tonnes of extra food needed. directly to people who work in the food bank tell me as a result of the roll out of universal credit. if everything is so wonderful, why is this happening? and why is one of his ex—prime ministers and... studio: questions being asked about universal credit. the minister sticking with the government line that they had take a slow and measured approach to the roll out of the system and they will continue that and will keep on improving the system as it rolls out. if you want to carry on watching that debate it is on bbc parliament. that is the all from us now. and now time for the weather. the day started with some autumnal scenes in england and wales. thanks to a combination of mist and fog, the sunshine slow to show itself fist thing in london —— first thing in london. the skies have cleared through the afternoon and there will be some late sunshine. we have a weather front pushing in that has affected scotla nd pushing in that has affected scotland and northern ireland and will feed rain into northern england and a wales. the east seeing the visibility falling away. some moisture around for the south—east and east anglia. a humid field and murky first thing wednesday. our front slides further south and that will mean low cloud in the midlands and the south—west of england. clearer skies following into northern ireland, scotland and northern england. but some showers are possible in northern ireland and western scotland during wednesday. definitely the north half of the uk getting the best of the sunshine on wednesday. this front will be in place in the south. difficult to put the position on it. but the chance of more cloud in southern and eastern england. cooler as well in the south—east. we move into thursday and high pressure starts to build in from the atlantic. there could be more cloud to the far south—east, the leftovers of the front for thursday. cloud feeding in on the breeze to western scotland. thursday looking like a fine day with sunshine. temperatures lower than recent days. about average for the time of year in the lower end of double figures. high pressure keen to stay with us towards the weekend. fronts will try and topple over the top of it into northern ireland, scotla nd top of it into northern ireland, scotland and some rain into northern england. but there will be a lot of fine weather around on friday. in the sunshine after perhaps a murky start, temperatures still doing reasonably well for the time of year with highs of 17 degrees. there's to be another delay to the introduction of the government's flagship welfare reform, universal credit. and there are plans for hundreds of millions of pounds to be spent, amid concerns that claimants are suffering hardship. i had loads of problems with my childcare payments, having to call them up every month reminding them to pay me and notjust once a month, a few times a month. we will have the very latest on the controversial reforms. also on today's programme. . . ahead of this week's crucial eu summit, the prime minister updates her cabinet on the latest in the brexit talks. the disappearance of the saudi journalist jamal khassoggi — the us secretary of state meets the saudi king to tell him he has huge concerns. a big increase in religious hate crime — offences are up 40% in england and wales, with more than half of cases directed at muslims.

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