you can watch that exclusive film at around 20 past nine. and the governor of the bank of england says house prices could fall by as much as 35% if there's a no—deal brexit. we'll ask what this means for you if you own a house — or if you can't afford to get on the housing ladder. do get in touch with your thoughts. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. and a performer in the musical 42nd street — who is a new mum — has become the first person to go back to herjob on stage in the west end as a job share. are you a mum who job shares? is it becoming more common in industries where it's traditionally difficult to go back to work after you've had a baby? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. the south east coast of america has begun feeling the brunt of hurricane florence, as it starts to hit land. more than a million people have been ordered to evacuate their homes, with winds of up to 90 miles per hour expected. 0ur north america correspondent, laura trevelyan, has this report. dramatic scenes as the leading edge of hurricane florence breaches the north carolina coast. rain and wind pummel the barrier islands exposed to the atlantic. this huge slow—moving storm is now so wide it is threatening the south—eastern coast of the us from the carolinas to georgia. it is the rain from the hurricane that could pose the greatest threat. forecasters warn that if we get prolonged rainfall over a couple of days there could be catastrophic flooding, as the water levels rise and inundate people's homes. there are fears that millions could be without power across the coast south—east of the us as the triple hazard of hurricane force winds, storm surge and flooding become a reality. many have fled their home, seeking shelter in evacuation centres inland. from the vulnerable elderly to the very young. while most people in mandatory evacuation zones have left, some are determined to see out the storms. my family and everyone has evacuated except my wife and i but we are setting up crews now to deal with the aftermath which could take weeks. the track of hurricane florence once it makes landfall is uncertain. but a sustained and damaging assault to the coastline from wind and water is intensifying. david begnaud is on radio island north carolina, on the east coast of the united states, and he sent us this update. as night fell on beaufort north, carolina, conditions deteriorated rapidly. i mean i'm talking between 6.30pm and 7pm. wind gusts went from 35, aomph, to upwards of 80. we're told they could hit 90mph at the height of the storm. so far six inches of rain have fallen, the forecasters are telling us to expect up to 18 in this area where we are right now. and about the storm surge — they could get six feet of water in terms of storm surge here on radio island where we are. i'm 6'1", so consider that. look, we're at a yacht club, we're in a safe place, i guarantee you, our rooms are 100 feet off the ground, don't worry. but the boats are gone, they have evacuated the marina. i have been watching a dock behind me rock back and forth and wondering how long that's going to hang on. listen, the storm isn't supposed to make landfall until between 6, maybe 8.00am friday morning, so if the conditions are this bad right now, can you imagine how much worse it's going to get overnight? annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the most powerful typhoon this year is roaring towards the main island of the philippines, with wind gusts of 160 miles an hour. super—typhoon mangkhut has gathered strength since monday, tearing down trees and power lines and leaving thousands of people homeless, but millions more live in the areas most at risk. howard johnson, reports from one of the provinces expected to be hardest hit by the storm. i'm outside the provincial government headquarters here, where they have just held an emergency briefing. the governor has a plan where he wants people to help their neighbours. if you live in a shack or a flimsy house, move to a more robust house, help a neighbour by letting them stay with you or go to a church, or to a school. he's also saying there is a liquor ban or alcohol ban in place. that's to stop people from drinking through this period and potentially get exposed to the weather. i asked him if there were any faults in his plans or any worries, he says that potentially telecommunications could go down, and roads could become impassable. earlier today we saw them stockpiling food here, lots of bread was being loaded into baskets, ready to be taken out around the province. he's also appealing for air support from the national government, to be able to spread that food around the province. now, last time a storm hit here in 2016 there were four casualties in this province. this time round he's hoping for zero casualties, and that seems somewhat optimistic, given the magnitude of this supertyphoon. the bank of england's governor has warned the government that a chaotic no—deal brexit could crash house prices and send another financial shock through the economy. his worst—case scenario was that house prices could fall as much as 35% over three years, a source told the bbc. there were also widespread reports that the governor told the downing street meeting that mortgage rates could spiral, the pound and inflation could fall, and countless homeowners could be left in negative equity. a former member of the pop band jls, 0ritse williams, has been charged with rape over an alleged attack on a fan in a hotel room after a concert. the singerfrom london, was arrested in december 2016, the morning after performing at the gorgeous club in wolverhampton. a second man has also been charged in connection with the incident. both men are due to appear before magistrates on 11 october. prison staff have begun protest action after a damning report warned of a "dangerous lack of control" at hmp bedford it follows a report on thursday from chief inspector of prisons peter clarke, who raised the alarm over the potential for a "complete breakdown" in order and discipline at the jail. members of the poa, the trade union for prison staff, have been asked to demonstrate outside prisons in england and wales from 7am" until instructed otherwise. number ten has branded an interview with the suspects in the salisbury poisoning attack as "deeply offensive to the victims" and "an insult to the public‘s intelligence". sergei skripal and his daughter yulia suffered nerve agent poisoning in salisbury in march, and dawn sturgess died injuly after being exposed to the same substance. alexander petrov and rooshlan boshirov told russia's state—run rt channel they had travelled to salisbury as tourists on the recommendation of friends. the leader of one of the uk's biggest unions has suggested that accusations of anti—semitism in the labour party may have been started by israel to divert attention from what he called ‘its atrocities‘. mark serwotka of the public and commercial services union was speaking at a fringe meeting of the tuc conference. in a statement, the union said he also made the point that anti—semitism should be opposed. the number of people being arrested and charged with shoplifting is going down across england, but the number of offences is increasing. between 2013 and 2017 home office statistics show that the number of offences of shoplifting rose by nearly 23%. but figures obtained by the victoria derbyshire programme show that during the same period arrests of shoplifters dropped by 17% and charges fell by a quarter. the programme spoke to a conicted shoplifter who said the justice system was no deterrent. well, you know you're only going to get a short sentence, eight week, ten weeks, well, now not everyone nothing because i walked out with a suspended sentence, and like, i'm still like a bit, still a bit surreal and this is like three months on. a series of gas explosions has set fire to dozens of homes in the us state of massachusetts. the blasts in three separate towns north of boston are thought to have been caused by the rupture of an overpressurised gas line. one person was killed and several others injured in the towns of andover, north andover and lawrence. firefighters had to race from block to block. the liberal democrat deputy leaderjo swinson, says she hopes bringing her baby to a debate in parliament will help modernise the institution. the mp gave birth to gabriel earlier this year and took part in a debate relating to maternity and paternity leave. it's thought to be the first time a baby has been present on the floor of the house while mps are sitting. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. comments coming in on what the governor of the bank of england said. nan says wasn't this crash going to happen any way. in london the prices are ridiculous. walked out with a suspended sentence, and like, i'm still like a bit, still a bit surreal and this is like three months on. comments coming in on what the governor of the bank of england said. nan says wasn't this crash going to happen any way. in london the prices are ridiculous. "wouldn't we want a bit surreal and this is like three months on. comments coming in on what the governor of the bank of england said. nan says wasn't this crash going to happen any way. in london the prices are ridiculous. "wouldn't we want affordable housing for everyone?". "if "wouldn't we want affordable housing for everyone? " if house "wouldn't we want affordable housing for everyone?". "if house prices are to fall would that be a bad simon yates could make it another amazing weekend in cycling for british fans. geraint thomas gave us an amazing summer as he rather unexpectedly won the tour de france — cycling's biggest race... chris froome holds the second of the three grand tours — the giro d'italia but there could be a british clean sweep with simon yates managing to maintain his 25 second lead and keep the red jersey with just two stages to go before sunday's processional finish in madrid. he leads a former vuelta winner, in the shape of alejandro valverde and he's not the only thing standing in yates‘s way. today's stage is a near—155 kilometre road race. don't expect the leaders to attack one another too much as relatively flat stage means they can't take huge chunks of time out of one another... there is a huge climb to finish though so that will still be tough — maybe yates has something up his sleeve to increase his lead a little... or maybe the riders will be saving something for the real test tomorrow. a very tough mountainous stage into andorra. today has one climb. tomorrow there will be six. very gruelling after a few weeks on the road and if yates does hang on, he'll be just the second british vuelta winner after chris froome last year, so hopefully there's good news to report on monday morning.. well, what a wait it's been for kelly sotherton. having to hold on for a full decade to get what should be one of the great moments in any olympic athletes career. a medal is of course the recognition of so many years of hard work. but maybe it's better late than never. at the team gb ball last night, sotherton finally got her third olympic medal. from the hepathlon at the 2008 games in beijing — upgraded from fifth to third after two of her rivals failed retrospective drugs tests. it's actually the second of her 0lympic medals that was given retrospectively after the 4x400 metres relay bronze was given to gb as well. but rather than harbour ill—feeling sotherton says a "cloud has lifted". i left beijing really disappointed, i went to beijing on the front of the plane, came back in the back, andi the plane, came back in the back, and i remember having an interview, i was so mortified, so upset, i looked awful, i was moody and so disappointed. so now, to ten years later to get two medals from that game, it would have been a different experience and thought prosetsdss leaving that games with two medals. it could be angry and bitter but i am really like emotional and happy and looking forward to the that's all the sport for now. that is amazing for her. in a few hours time hurricane florence is expected to make landfall on the eastern coast of the united states. high winds and heavy rains are already battering parts of the region. the hurricane is currently around 50 miles southwest of north carolina and is due to make landfall at around 8am local time —— landfall at around 8am local time — that's around 1pm here in the uk. these are pictures from the last couple of hours from the coastal town of wrightsville beach, which is already experiencing turbulent conditions. and these are live cctv pictures from wrightsville beach as the storm intensifies. nearly 1.7m people have been ordered to evacuate the coastline of north carolina, south carolina, and virginia. thousands have taken shelter in emergency centres, while many supermarkets are running short of essential supplies. with me is our weather presenter, chris fawkes. talk us through the sarah latest. the eye wall is starting to make inroads into the coast, so the outer bands of the eye walljust starting to push in now, the eye, because the storm is moving so slowly it will ta ke storm is moving so slowly it will take another few hours before it actually makes landfall itself. now, the winds aren't as fierce as they have been overrecent day, it is now got winds of 90mph with stronger gusts but because the storm is moving so slowly, it is only moving at sixmph, so little more than walking pace, that is what will cause the problems because we will get massive falls of rain. how much? well, perhaps a metre for some community, we have seen something like 200-250 community, we have seen something like 200—250 millimetres. it is going to get much worse because of the slow—moving nature of the hurricane. that is incredible. how rare is it that you have a storm of this intensity moving so slowly? rare is it that you have a storm of this intensity moving so slowly7m is interesting, there is a science paper that came out this summer, and it suggested that hurricanes when they mange landfall are getting slower, since 1919. now, we have to be careful with that, because we don't have good satellite records of these storms before that time, but one of the ideas is the winds, the currents that are blowing them along are getting weaker that means when the hurricanes make landfall they linger longer, this science paper was talking about theroom tos being 20% slower. you add into that the fa ct 20% slower. you add into that the fact there is more warmth in the atmosphere because of global warming, that makes heavier rain, it is like a double whammy. you remember last year, hurricane harvey hit text. —— texas. they got 1563 millimetres of rain. what is that? it is over a year's worth of rain for us in the uk, they had that in the space of a few day, that is the kind of thing we are worried about in north carolina, maybe not a meet—and—a—half of rain, but a metres that will bring catastrophic damage. as well as that we have a storm surge which is where the ocea ns storm surge which is where the oceans get lifted up and rivers can't flow out. the sea flows up the rivers and stops it flows out. so commuters round river systems will struggle with flooding as well. commuters round river systems will struggle with flooding as weltm is amazing to see these pictures and this is before it has hit. we are still several hours away. it is still several hours away. it is still the middle of the night there. because it is moving only 6mph forward it will take several hours before we see the eye moving across the coast, but, in any case, it is not the winds we are worried about. this system will get downgraded through the day today, probably to a tropical storm, doesn't matter, through the day today, probably to a tropicalstorm, doesn't matter, it is not about the winds, it is about rain. that rain will last notjust through today but through the weekend before the system starts to push its way a bit further northward, it is north carolina, south carolina, virginia, tennessee, they will get enormous falls of rain. i know you said the evidence indicates it seems that storms are becoming more slow—moving, it does seem that with each year the hurricane season seems to get busier and more intense. hurricane, it sarries from year—to—year, so you know you might think global warming there is more energy in the atmosphere therefore we get more hurricane, it is not that straightforward. 0ne hurricane, it is not that straightforward. one of the things thatis straightforward. one of the things that is important for hurricane, is the el nino pattern which is the warming of the pacific 0ceans. in el ninos when we get warm waters, it creates stronger winds in the atla ntic creates stronger winds in the atlantic basin. 0ne creates stronger winds in the atlantic basin. one of the irineys with hurricanes is they hate strong winds. it blows over the circulation and they can't spin up so they don't become hurricanes so in el nino yea rs become hurricanes so in el nino years you see fewer hurricanes than average. you know, this year's been relatively quiet compared with last year, thisjust relatively quiet compared with last year, this just happenses to be a big storm that is going to make big impacts in north carolina in terms of flooding. we are hoping to speak toa of flooding. we are hoping to speak to a storm chaser but we are having communication difficulties because he is in the eye of the storm, or in the path of the storm. to, actually, sorry chris, we have got him. literally right now so we will bring him in. literally right now so we will bring him in. let's speak now to mike thiess — a storm chaser and national geographic photographer. what is it like? getting pressty fierce. looking at the radar in the eye wall that is about to come across this area, it looks better on radar so we are about to get strong winds come through here, but the main story is the storm surge, and the heavy rainfalls that will accumulate over the next few days. the heavy rainfalls that will accumulate over the next few dayslj was reading about a couple who have sat out hurricanes in the past and even they have left because they said they are really scared about this one. you are right there, what does it feel like, is it frightening? it is not as it was when it was a category four but it is still we take serious, i am in an armoured vehicle that was designed to go into hurricanes so i am not just ina to go into hurricanes so i am not just in a regular vehicle. the windows are protected from flying debris, the tyres won't puncture, i have a wind device that will record the gusts and it will be an official wind gust because it is calibrated as well as recording the pressure inside the eye, it looks i will be getting into in a few hours. what it is like to be in the eye of a storm like that? it is noisy, it, you hear things breaking, lines whistling, the problem is if you look outside it is pitch black, it is so dark you can't see anything, that does make it scary, the fact the night factor, if it was daytime it would be continuely different because you could see what is breaking apart. but when it is dark you just hear it, that is it. or you hear it when it, that is it. or you hear it when it hits your vehicle. so the description of your vehicle is incredible and i hope you do feel quite safe inside it. it. what have previous experiences been like? have you been in the eye of the storm without that protection?” you been in the eye of the storm without that protection? i have, in fa ct without that protection? i have, in fact this is the 45th tropical cyclone landfall i have documented. most of the time early on it was in a regular vehicle, i don't always stay in the vehicle if it is category two, this is not a common occasion to drive round, normally i have a concrete building, i have a structure i stay for the duration of the storm, no matter how strong the storm is, need to stay in a building i feel will withstand up to a category five. in this case we are not dealing with a five, and i do feel that the hurricane vehicle, i feel that the hurricane vehicle, i feel it is protected enough to drive me round in a category one. i am away from the storm surge, i am in enough to be away from the surge but at day break the big concern is with all this rain that happens that i don't get trapped in an area with a flash flood. are there many people who have defied the orders to leave the area? 0h, who have defied the orders to leave the area? oh, yes, especially on the barrier island, when i was driving round earlier everybody left. the barrier islands are completely deserted which is a great thing. 0n the immediate coast line a lot people did evacuate as well. everybody took the storm seriously, especially when it was category four, that is when everybody started evacuating. it is a good thing, everybody a category one can be deadly, they are dangerous and hopefully everybody did evacuate and eve ryo ne hopefully everybody did evacuate and everyone will be ok. thank you very much. storm chaser mike. we will of course keep you updated on the progress of the storm 678 thank you chris, more from a poll suggested 250,000 women in the uk have been offered free or reduced rent if exchange for sexual favours over the past five years, yesterday, the issue was raised in parliament by the liberal democrat mpfor parliament by the liberal democrat mp for bath vera hob house, in a moment we will speak to her, here is a reminder of what we found when their reporter went undercover to meet two landlords. it it suddenly feels different on in way i to the first meeting with the landlord. right. see you on the other side. from his advert i know tom is in his 60ers and has a one bed flat on the outskirts of bristol. he has already sent me more than 50 e—mails including a photo, keen to arrange a meeting. the messages are mild but he clearly feels familiar already and goes straight in for a kiss. how how are you? i know part of the deal is sharing his bed but i want to find out what else he is going to expect. when you say like i arranged to meet the next landlord ata pub i arranged to meet the next landlord at a pub in win don. from his advert mike claims to be in his 40s with a designer pad on offer. this time i would get my own room. we exchanged a dozen message, nothing dodgy but he tells me he has done this before and he has clearly got away with it. no kiss this time but when i ask for a small glass of wine he generously returns with a large win. can i give you the money for it? are you sure? after small talk we cut to chase. turns out i've got competition. if you had like, if you had a lot of the minute industry ofjustice says just placing an advert is illegal but we have checked with the police who aren't aware of any prosecution, so who aren't aware of any prosecution, so it hasn't been tested in court, and a solicitor with expertise in this area doesn't think it's an open—and—shut case. this area doesn't think it's an open-and-shut case. i'm not sure it is inciting prostitution, it is a grey area and i suspect what the crown prosecution service and police aren't interested in taking this on because there is no clarity. we offered both our landlords the opportunity to be interviewed or give a statement. tom wasn't interested. nice to meet you. mike says he is now living abroad, he told us he was pretening to be a landlord, and that he is actually a writer and feminist and that he placed his advert to research his novel on the theme of the exploitation of women. he says that i was the only person to respond. i hope i will hearfrom you. we look forward to reading your book, mike. we really do. that was rachel stonehouse reporting. 0ne book, mike. we really do. that was rachel stonehouse reporting. one of the viewers on monday who saw that was vera hobhouse mp. mp. she is raising the issue in the common, you we re raising the issue in the common, you were shocked? absolutely, how is it possible that we can exploit vulnerable people in that way, and the law doesn't seem to protect them, so, apparently, this issue had been raised by a labour colleague, peter kyle two years ago and still we haven't had any prosecution, so, and they have looked into it, whether there is enough legislation and make it illegal, it is illegal and make it illegal, it is illegal and yet, the practice continues, and what is it that we can do more to protect people from this vile practise. so what is the answer to that, if the legislation is there well, i am going to meet with the minister now, so i raised the question yesterday in parliament, in question time to the minister for women, they say they will meet with me. it's a cooperation of web sites who are hosting these adverts, it saysin who are hosting these adverts, it says in your programme, as well, thatis says in your programme, as well, that is actual legal legal in itself, and yet people don't come forward , itself, and yet people don't come forward, so first of all awareness raising, what this programme is doing now, is definitely a first step, so people come across it, just report it and make sure that landlords, these rogue lands lord's who are posting adverts know that you know, somebody is watching, but liam you know, somebody is watching, but l i am going to have this meeting with the minister now and hopefully we can explore something that is better than what we have currently. in the end, if you have two consenting adults and a situation thatis consenting adults and a situation that is mutually beneficial, unpalatable as it might seem to others, it is hard, isn't it, to deal with that? hang on, others, it is hard, isn't it, to dealwith that? hang on, let others, it is hard, isn't it, to deal with that? hang on, let us explore whether something is console you'll, landlords ex employee ploiting a housing crisis, the bottom is the unavailability of affordable rent, we need a lot more social housing f the state was the landlord this wouldn't happen, it happens also to vulnerable young men because they are at the bottom testify housing list so these are desperate people, and, and some people who have accommodation exploit them, that is not consent, thatis exploit them, that is not consent, that is exploitation. there is no quick fix to that, and if somebody is at the stage where they are desperate enough to agree to enter into this sort of arrangement, there is nothing that will easily be able to help them right now.|j is nothing that will easily be able to help them right now. i think we have to have this discussion about consent and we continue to shine a light into these practise, it is not consent. it is very, we must make clear and we must encourage vulnerable people to come forward and report it, and be strong enough to actually seek support, because there is help out there. it is an illegal practise, it shouldn't happen, it should be stopped and we, i certainly want to help. so you said you will be meeting the minister, have you got concrete ideas that you will put forward? the first thing of course is a code of practice for websites who are hosting it, should we look at changing the law, if that should become more stringent? it's been said on your programme it is illegal to place these adverts but they still flourish. it's also about police, police cuts have meant that police, police cuts have meant that police officers can only target so many things. so again if the police think they won't get a successful prosecution, you need to have successful prosecutions so people get scared to do these things. thank you. do keep your thoughts coming in on that, if use of the original investigation and you work particularly affected by it, let us know your thoughts. time for the latest news — here's annita. parts of the eastern united states are being battered by heavy rain, wind and rising floodwaters caused by hurricane florence. the massive storm has been approaching the coast and is expected to make landfall near cape fear, north carolina, later today. local forecasters have predicted up to eight months of rain in the space of two or three days. hurricane—force winds could hit the coast for nearly a full day. at least 188,000 people were without power in north carolina and south carolina early on friday. utility companies said millions were expected to lose power and restoration could take weeks. the bank of england's governor has warned the government that a chaotic no—deal brexit could crash house prices and send another financial shock through the economy. his worst—case scenario was that house prices could fall as much as 35% over three years, a source told the bbc. there were also widespread reports that the governor told the downing street meeting that mortgage rates could spiral, the pound and inflation could fall, and countless homeowners could be left in negative equity. prison staff have begun protest action after a damning report warned of a "dangerous lack of control" at hmp bedford. it follows a report on thursday from chief inspector of prisons peter clarke, who raised the alarm over the potential for a "complete breakdown" in order and discipline at the jail. members of the poa, the trade union for prison staff, have been asked to demonstrate outside prisons in england and wales from 7am until instructed otherwise. mark fairhurst, chairman of the union, told bbc news protests were taking place outside the "majority" of prisons in england and wales, both public and private. number 10 has branded an interview with the suspects in the salisbury poisoning attack as "deeply offensive to the victims" and "an insult to the public‘s intelligence". sergei skripal and his daughter yulia suffered nerve agent poisoning in salisbury in march, and dawn sturgess died injuly after being exposed to the same substance. alexander petrov and rooshlan boshirov told russia's state—run rt channel they had travelled to salisbury as tourists on the recommendation of friends. the leader of one of the uk's biggest unions has suggested that accusations of anti—semitism in the labour party may have been started by israel to divert attention from what he called ‘its atrocities‘. mark serwotka of the public and commercial services union was speaking at a fringe meeting of the tuc conference. in a statement, the union said he also made the point that anti—semitism should be opposed. a series of gas explosions has set fire to dozens of homes in the us state of massachusetts. the blasts in three separate towns north of boston are thought to have been caused by the rupture of an overpressurised gas line. one person was killed and several others injured in the towns of andover, north andover and lawrence. firefighters had to race from block to block. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. here's some sport now with hugh simon yates goes into the road race of spain with exciting potential. he could become the third winner of the grand tour the shia. in britain. surrey have become county champions again, they beat their opponents by three wickets. could be, for the captain rory byrne who finished the as top run scorer. charlottejourdan w011 as top run scorer. charlottejourdan won gold at the world the christian games riding her new force freestyle earning qualification for the 0lympic earning qualification for the olympic games in tokyo 2020. an emotional kelly so has received heptathlete bronze from the beijing 0lympics ten years after the events. she was moved up from fifth to third friend to athletes were retrospectively disqualified for doping. that's your sport for now. more after 10am. doping. that's your sport for now. more after10am. great, ce later. -- great, see you later. facebook it's the world's biggest social media platform and every second there are 20 thousand people using it around the world. but we don't often hear from the people in charge of it. well, last night, in a special debate for bbc newsbeat, facebook bosses came together in a rare appearance — to take questions from the public. the event was chaired by newbeat‘s steffan powell, and he's here to tell us what happened. so steffan, what was this event last night? it's pretty rare to get face—to—face time with people running this platform, it's the beginning of an average programme from them, they have an event on this weekend called it's your facebook to try and speak to users and try and allay fears after a tricky year for them, we put some new speed, radio one and one xtra listeners in a room with four of top executives from the company and tried to figure out what going on and let them have a chance to ask their questions. a range of issues we re their questions. a range of issues were talked about from mental health to big things like what they do with data and how can we trust facebook given that the power they have on the platform that so many people use and can influence our politics?“ you look on facebook now we've built an archive, running in the us today but we are working at this moment to bring it to the uk and you can go to the ads archive and you can see all the ads archive and you can see all the political ads that have running, you can see who run them, roughly how much they spent and further were targeted and rethink your concerns, that the election is free and fair, we share your view they should be free and fair, the ads archive tool at least on facebook nothing sneaky or underhand can take place. you can hear they are talking about fake news and how they influence politics, one of the biggest issues that came up in the debate, i was mentioning it has been a tough year for facebook, the cambridge analytica story, uncertainty over the influence are having on politics and the influence on mental health, there is a link that clean depression and young people and the use of social media recent study suggests. facebook or more open than they have been for a long time, certainly here in the uk, they talked about regulation perhaps, they didn't go into detail but they talk about regulation in terms of being open to more regulation of the site, they talked about the all—powerful algorithm that the sites what you see in your news feed and they said they might be open to sharing more information about what goes into that. there were lots of people messaging and watching on facebook live, people in the audience suggesting they are getting frustrated by how long the pace of change takes and it's too slow and how long it takes for them to report issues and get things dealt with and that came up a lot and what facebook said essentially is that the bosses said essentially is that the bosses said they were acknowledging that they can do better on these issues. sound macro we've got no sound on that. but was richard allen in charge of public policy on facebook and essentially what he says was facebook is going on a journey, 12 years a slave for, they can get things right immediately and they are trying to do things better as they go along, steve hatch the head of uk facebook was there and he said they need to do better. a lot of people not necessarily buying it, going for long enough, nicking enough money, they need change faster. go and watch it back if you we re faster. go and watch it back if you were on facebook, you can find it on the news be channelled, i know you will do that afterwards and the debate on the bbc news channel tonight at 8:30pm. what's brilliant about these listeners is when they get in this environment, they go face—to—face, they listen to what they have to say which is amazing because sometimes in debates people are so because sometimes in debates people are so fired up and want to get the point across and they but heads, and don't listen. it's really worthwhile, so interesting, please check it out. that more informal context often works. and it's so infuriating when you ask a question and it wasn't answered. some other questions were so good, me and you might be out of a job! coming up... a warning from the bank of england governor that a no—deal brexit could see house prices plunge. we'll look at what this could mean for all of us. the editor of the russian state tv station which broadcast a widely ridiculed interview with the two men suspected of being behind the salisbury novichok attacks has hung up during a bbc newsnight interview — shortly after complaining about what she called western propagranda. we'll take a look at that in a moment but first, let's watch a bit of that interview with the two suspects. yes, that's us. what were you doing there? translation: 0urfriends have been suggesting for quite a long time that we visit this wonderful city. it is a tourist city, they have a famous cathedral, salisbury cathedral, famous throughout europe and in fact throughout the world, i think, famous for its 123 metre spire, famous for its clock, the oldest working clock in the world. so you came to salisbury to take a look at the clock? we planned to visit london first and have fun there. speaking to bbc newsnight about her television interview with alexander petrov and ruslan boshirov, rt editor—in—chief margarita simonyan hung up on presenter kirsty wark after "the manner of the interview" with the suspects was challenged. having worked as a reporter for almost 20 years i only believe what i see with my own eyes. is with my owi'i i see with my own eyes. is with my own eyes that the two were completely like the people on the video that was released by the british police. so for that matter i do believe they are those people. but as far as the story goes, i don't have any reasons to believe them, i don't know them, i haven't spent life at them, they are not my friends but i have no more reasons to believe secret services who have been lying previously. thus in the manner of this interview concern you and the fact that doesn't it reinforce the idea that russia today isa reinforce the idea that russia today is a propaganda tool for the russian state ? is a propaganda tool for the russian state? you did watch the interview, didn't you? i did. did you see my face, my tone. you probably don't speak russian. but i also look at the transcript. and the questions we re the transcript. and the questions were quite obviously hard for them and made them nervous and at some point they even said something like we came here, we thought you would support us. and you behave like we we re support us. and you behave like we were an investigation in accord. and isaid, i'm were an investigation in accord. and i said, i'm not here to support you, lama i said, i'm not here to support you, i am a list, i don't know why you would say that, the question seems completely unobjective to meet right i'iow. completely unobjective to meet right now. your question seems to me like typical western propaganda because of which people actually watch russia today. it's nothing like what you're saying. 0ne russia today. it's nothing like what you're saying. one last question, you're saying. one last question, you looked the footage of the two men. . . you looked the footage of the two men... are you still there? i think she's gone. that was kirsty wark with that interview last might. the salisbury attack left a former russian spy sergei skirpal and his daughter yulia gravely ill, and led to the death of local woman dawn sturgess after she found the bottle containing the nerve agent. her partner, charlie rowley is still recovering. so why did vladimir putin allow this interview to go ahead, and could it be true that these two were not members of russia's security service but merely tourists? let's talk now to sir andrew wood, former british ambassador to russia, benjudah, an author who's written extensively about putin's russia and ian bond the director of foreign policy at the centre for european reform. welcome all of you and thank you for joining us, sir andrew, welcome all of you and thank you for joining us, sirandrew, 42 welcome all of you and thank you for joining us, sir andrew, 42 think of the interview? i didn't know whether to laugh or cry, it was disgraceful, the president of a powerful and formally honourable country like russia should come up with such frivolity in place of at least sympathising with the victims. the fa ct sympathising with the victims. the fact that president putin is obviously been involved in saying yes these men have been identified and it would be good if they were interviewed, what does that say? and it would be good if they were interviewed, what does that sawm says he's supporting lies which is not a new thing. it's actually quite an achievement of the russian security orchestra to have found these two tourists out of over 140 million people and suddenly happen available for presentation on russia today. what did you think? this has beena today. what did you think? this has been a taste for viewers in the uk of the through the looking glass world of constant gas lighting which the russian population is subject to oi'i the russian population is subject to ona the russian population is subject to on a daily basis. outrageous claims, misinformation, and propaganda designed to display any idea of truth. so when you use the term gas lighting, obviously that, you know, that can be quite an effective thing to be used against people, would people in russia watch this and see it completely differently from how we see it? one of the most interesting trends we see in russia over the last few years is a crash in the russian population who trust russian television as a news source because of constant contemptible propaganda the likes of which we have been subject to in britain via this so—called interview. have been subject to in britain via this so-called interview. ian, how much of this so—called propaganda is going on? and enormous amount, enormous amount but you've got to remember that party which are broadcast this interview is aimed at the international audience and one of the aims of this is to cause a certain amount of confusion, you know, there will be unsure of stories about what happened and who did it, you know, we've already had porton down being blamed for british intelligence or a criminal gang or whatever. —— intelligence or a criminal gang or whatever. — — rt. intelligence or a criminal gang or whatever. —— rt. there is a lot of putting smoke out there, so the battlefield is obscured. that could be successful at home, here, it doesn't seem to have had any effect at all in terms of anybody watching it saying, yes, maybe. at all in terms of anybody watching it saying, yes, maybelj at all in terms of anybody watching it saying, yes, maybe. i think you need to look at twitter, actually, it's quite interesting to see there are people who say for example, craig murray, a former british ambassador to uzbekistan saying it's quite plausible they might have just been going for a long weekend of tourism in salisbury and they couldn't get to stonehenge because of the bad weather and the reason they are bit cagey is about the story is they are gay couple and that's not legal in russia. so there are people who will swallow this story or at any rate will say, you know, the british say one thing, the russians say another, the truth may be somewhere in between. the u na nswered be somewhere in between. the unanswered debt is how there was not the novichok in the hotel room. but that wasn't asked by rt. sir andrew, where does this leave this situation, as you say, the reaction is almost that it's funny but it's not, it's a really serious situation. one should not neglect the degree to which russia has isolated itself from the outside world, particularly from europe and the united states and canada. that's already a lessening of russian power to operate effectively in the world. and it's also reflective as ben said, confusion in the russian mind, a lack of internal discussion about further ways forward, about how to get round the fundamental problems of the putin regime, which is damaging to russia. in the end, will vladimirand damaging to russia. in the end, will vladimir and those around him really be concerned by the external reaction to this? i think it's a mistake to view this as a morecambe and why is scared, something hilarious, or as an advert for the salisbury tourist board from the fa ct salisbury tourist board from the fact that the matter is an attack has taken place on british soil, there have been deaths and what we see here is a direct insult from the russian government towards british safety and british concerned, it's not funny at all. how will it be handled by the diplomats, sir andrew, the government is taking a ha rd andrew, the government is taking a hard line and one government source said you know, what's happened here is straight out of the pages of wikipedia. theresa may has been very strong in her criticism. what will be done behind—the—scenes? strong in her criticism. what will be done behind-the-scenes? this in itself is a serious incident and this latest element of it is contemptible. but it is part of the wider picture. and we do have a pretty strong policy towards russia. founded on a whole myriad of mistake that the russians have made which we share with the whole of the west. and i think we have to look at it like that, something additional, doesn't require direct retaliation. in the end, ian, will this sort of fall away, obviously there are people whose lives have been dramatically affect it by what happened with novichok in salisbury but it's highly unlikely isn't it that we will ever see any prosecutions? it's very unlikely unless these two people set foot outside russia, these things do happen after many years, there are various people that the americans have managed to get their hands on after years and years of trying to track them down. sometimes people decide that so much time has elapsed that it's safe to travel again. and i think it would be a mistake to forget this, you know, we have the alexander led when you go case, we have this, there are various other suspicious deaths of russians living in exile in the uk including nikolai glushkov who died at the same time as the attack on sergei skripal and his daughter. western allies and partners will keep on looking at russian intelligence activities much more seriously than we have done since the end of the cold war. thank you all. on wednesday, a nine—year—old girl reignited debate about australia's national anthem by explaining why she had refused to rise for it at a school assembly. harper nielsen, from brisbane, told me that the lyrics of "advance australia fair" disregarded the country's indigenous history. that says that france is truly occurred which means advance white australia and when it says we are young it disregards the indigenous people who were here before us. and what gave you the idea not to stand. because in our school they said please stand for the national anthem. i made a silent protest and did not stand. what did your friends say and what did the school say? my friends didn't really say anything and the school said it's more important to follow school rules. and i right in thinking you got told off and you actually got a detention for doing it? yes. what did the teachers say? that i had to write an apology. inaudible. who did you have to write an apology to? the principle. ok. and what did you think about getting that detention and having to do that?” think about getting that detention and having to do that? i felt quite angry because i felt what i did was right. mark, what do you think about the fact that your daughter did that? i think it was an incredibly brave and bold act by someone whose so young. brave and bold act by someone whose so young. i'm still amazed that she is have the strength of resolve to follow through on something that she believes is right, to stand for something she believes in, i think it's very rare and i'm very proud of her. when was the first you knew about it? her deciding not to stand? it started earlier in the year. it's been going on for a good part of this year. and recently has kind of blown up in ways that we never imagined it would. was obviously the protests in the united states the nfl players, colin copernicus kneeling during the anthem. was that something that affected harbour?” don't think so, i don't and she was really aware of that, as she said earlier i think it was just a situation, the process in the assembly as they are asked to stand for the national anthem and it occurred to her the best way to process and protest was to sit quietly in silent protest. worse than a mixed reaction to this in some saying it's amazing she has stood up and on this, others being critical and criticising you as a pa rent critical and criticising you as a parent saying she's only nine and she's been brainwashed. how do you respond to that? you know, anyone who knows harbour will think that's funny, she is a very strong willed young individual who is certainly not someone i'm capable of brainwashing or someone but i want to brainwashed. this is really her, she's the one who is driving this, we stand with her but it's all coming from her. harbour, would you do it again? yes! even though you got in trouble the first time? yes. what if you had to keep on writing notes about it? yes, i would even write the notes. what do you want to be when you grow up?” write the notes. what do you want to be when you grow up? i want to be in the circus tour and archaeologist or historian. let's get more on a story developing this morning, prison officers beginning a course of strike action after a report into each mp bedford. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw is here with more. staff have been instructed to take action outside prisons in england and wales from 7am this morning, in effect its strike action of the prison officers are banned from going on strike, legally, they are banned from taking industrial action, they cannot call it that the bad effect is what it isn't what it's about a protest against the conditions in prisons which they say are making it unsafe for their staff. they are very angry about the fa ct staff. they are very angry about the fact the government has not ruled out the use of pepper spray is, there is a trial going on in the number of prisons and they feel it's long overdue, all prison officers should be able to have these sprays to help them protect themselves against the increasing level of violence they see in prison. is this of duty officers who are out with these protests or does it mean jobs aren't being covered today for this? i think there will be some prison officers who have gone off duty perhaps some others who aren't on duty today who come in to protest. but there may well be some prison officers who are meant to be inside doing theirjobs who are not, who are outside protesting. we here at manchester 50—60 officers are protesting, was also i'm told a big protesting, was also i'm told a big protest outside liverpool prison and jails at wandsworth and pentonville in london, nottingham as well. but what the prison officers' association said is that they will leave enough staff to ensure all prisoners who need medication will get it and that there are enough people to see if there is enough disorder or trouble they will deal with that. we've had a strong response to the prisons minister rory stewart who says this is irresponsible of the prison officers' association, he is encouraging urgent prison officers to return to work and the ministry ofjustice will to return to work and the ministry of justice will take legal action today to try to enforce a court injunction in order to stop the protests a nd injunction in order to stop the protests and i imagine there will be a court hearing today and i am pretty sure the court will demand the prison officers stop this protest a nd the prison officers stop this protest and probably. later today. danny, thank you. let's get the latest weather update — with simon king let's start off with florence offshore north carolina, 30 miles towards the east of wilmington and you can see from this mass of cloud, due to amount of rainfall falling across north carolina, significant storms at reported this morning, ten feet. this storm, hurricane will continue to skirt around the coast, moving inland eventually, continuing to dumpa moving inland eventually, continuing to dump a huge amount of rainfall and bringing significant flooding. for the uk some sunshine at the moment, this is in norfolk, an unusual cloud spotted why are weather watcher, this is a hole punch card, you can see in the middle, water droplets within the centre of the cloud, conditions just right for it to start evaporating, creating that all, quite unusual in essex. for the uk, the rest of today, continuing with showers across northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, wales, some showers elsewhere. the further south and east you are it will be dry and brightness is bell's, also in the far north of scotland. temperatures in the north 14—16d. the further south and east you are in bridge is getting up into the high teens. overnight tonight, we will continue with showers across northern england, southern scotland, northern ireland, either side of that sum lengthy cure spells, in the north—east of scotland, turning quite chilly, temperatures in aberdeen reaching 4 degrees, lower in the countryside. that takes us into the start of the weekend, for many on saturday high—pressure dominating. this weather system dry to slowly move its way into across northern and western parts, for most on saturday, it will be a dry day with sunshine. some showers in the north, the cloud thickening in northern ireland, some rain starting to move in, with some sunny spells, temperatures, 15—16d in the north, up temperatures, 15—16d in the north, up to about 21 across the south. as for sunday, the weather system continuing to move its way in, eventually moving its weight further south and east. like to see some quite heavy rain in the early hours of sunday, across scotland and northern ireland. moving south into northern england, wales, parts of the south west getting some showers. some showers in the bard north west of scotla nd some showers in the bard north west of scotland but generally scotland, northern ireland, central and eastern and south—eastern england some sunny eastern and south—eastern england some sunny spells, feeling quite warm in the south—east, temperatures reaching 22 degrees, further north, the highs between 15 and 17. goodbye. hello, it's ten o'clock, i'm joanna gosling. our top story — hurricane florence starts to batter america's east coast bringing rain and heavy winds of up to 90 miles an hour. they could get six feet of water in terms of storm surge here on radio island where we are. i'm 6'1", i'm 6'1", consider that. in the next hour, we'll hear from storm chasers, people evacuating their homes, and those who've opted to stay put to ride out the storm. plus a warning from the bank of england's governor that a no—deal brexit could see house prices plunge. but what could this mean for you and me? for those with mortgages already and for first time buyers? we'll have advice from a personal finance expert. and we'll be talking to the rapper ghetts. # so who's fighting for the sisters then # when their brother keep on dissing them # try and picture justin as a little one # daddy was around but i was raised by the women them # nan aunts mummy black woman significance. ghetts will be here in the studio to talk about issues of colourism and female black identity which are all explored in his latest album. good morning it's ten o'clock. here's annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. parts of the eastern united states are being battered by heavy rain, wind and rising floodwaters caused by hurricane florence. the massive storm has been approaching the coast and is expected to make landfall near cape fear, north carolina, later today. local forecasters have predicted up to eight months of rain in the space of two or three days. hurricane—force winds could also hit the coast for nearly a full day. at least 188,000 people are already without power in north carolina and south carolina. utility companies said millions were expected to lose power and restoration could take weeks. the authorities in the philippines say more than five million people are threatened by a massive typhoon bearing down on the country. typhoon mangkhut is moving steadily towards the north of the island of luzon, bringing sustained winds of over 200 kilometres an hour. thousands of people have been ordered to leave their homes. as well as strong winds, it's forecast to bring powerful waves and torrential rain, causing flooding and landslides. prison staff have begun protest action after a damning report warned of a "dangerous lack of control" at hmp bedford. it follows a report over the potential for a "complete breakdown" in order and discipline at the jail. members of the prison officers association, the trade union for prison staff, have been asked to demonstrate outside prisons from 7am until instructed otherwise. chairman mark fairhurst told bbc news protests were taking place outside the "majority" of prisons in england and wales. the government say it's irresponsible for the union to encourage their members to take this illegal action the bank of england's governor has warned the government that a chaotic no—deal brexit could crash house prices and send another financial shock through the economy. his worst—case scenario was that house prices could fall as much as 35% over three years, a source told the bbc. there were also widespread reports that the governor told the downing street meeting that mortgage rates could spiral, the pound and inflation could fall, and countless homeowners could be left in negative equity. a former member of the pop band jls, 0ritse williams, has been charged with rape over an alleged attack on a fan in a hotel room after a concert. the singerfrom london, was arrested in december 2016, the morning after performing at the gorgeous club in wolverhampton. a second man has also been charged in connection with the incident. both men are due to appear before magistrates on 11 october. number 10 has branded an interview with the suspects in the salisbury poisoning attack as "deeply offensive to the victims" and "an insult to the public‘s intelligence". sergei skripal and his daughter yulia suffered nerve agent poisoning in salisbury in march, and dawn sturgess died injuly after being exposed to the same substance. alexander petrov and rooshlan boshirov told russia's state—run rt channel they had travelled to salisbury as tourists on the recommendation of friends. the number of people being arrested and charged with shoplifting is going down across england, but the number of offences is increasing. between 2013 and 2017 home office statistics show that the number of offences of shoplifting rose by nearly 23%. but figures obtained by the victoria derbyshire programme show that during the same period arrests of shoplifters dropped by 17% and charges fell by a quarter. the programme spoke to a conicted shoplifter who said the justice system was no deterrent. you know you're only going to get a short sentence, eight week, ten week, not everyone nothing, i walked out with a suspended sentence and i'm still like a bit, still a bit surreal and this is like, months on. and we'l have more on this exclusive report shortly the leader of one of the uk's biggest unions has suggested that accusations of anti—semitism in the labour party may have been started by israel to divert attention from what he called ‘its atrocities‘. mark serwotka of the public and commercial services union was speaking at a fringe meeting of the tuc conference. in a statement, the union said he also made the point that anti—semitism should be opposed. the liberal democrat deputy leaderjo swinson, says she hopes bringing her baby to a debate in parliament will help modernise the institution. the mp gave birth to gabriel earlier this year and took part in a debate relating to maternity and paternity leave. it‘s thought to be the first time a baby has been present on the floor that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. let‘s get some sport now. hugh is at the bbc sport centre. good morning. simon yates is still wearing the leader‘s red jersey at the vuelta a espana — so could he become the third british cyclist to win a grand tour this year, after the feats of chris froome and geraint thomas? he‘s 25 seconds ahead of a former winner of the vuelta, alejandro valverde, with two meaningful stages to come before sunday‘s processional finish in madrid. after nearly two decades, surrey are the county cricket champions once again. they won at worcestershire yesterday to give themselves an unbeatable lead. the celebrations could begin, when they went past the victory target of 271. surrey have been led brilliantly, by the man with his back to us, captain rory burns. a player, many think, should now be opening the batting for england. 100%, it shouldn‘t even be a discussion, i‘ll be honest. i know it‘s smith and jones have to pick the squad, but rory burns should be inked in, into that squad straightaway now. he‘s done it for four years and this year‘s he‘s an even better player, and i trust the selectors to make the right decision and pick rory burns. you never going to fill alastair cook‘s shoes, but as long as he‘s given an opportunity and given time, i seriously believe he can open the battle for a period of final for england. there was an incredible finish at the world modern pentathlon championships in mexico city, with britain‘s james cooke taking gold. in a sprint finish, he came from third place to win it byjust three—hundredths of a second on the finish line. cooke was overcome by emotion afterwards, dedicating the win to his late grandfather who died last week. great britain‘s dressage team have won bronze at the world equestrian games in north carolina — earning them qualification for the olympics in tokyo 2020. charlotte dujardin was riding her new horse freestyle, who she says reminds her of the famous valegro, the partner who won her two olympic gold medals. germany took gold. there‘s live coverage from the games later, on the red button and bbc sport website. kelly sotherton has been talking about receiving her second bronze medalfrom the beijing olympics — ten years on. the presentation was at a team gb ball last night — she was upgraded from fifth to third after two of her rivals failed drugs tests. it‘s actually the second medal from beijing she‘s been awarded — last year she received a bronze for the 4x400m relay. but rather than harbour ‘ill—feeling‘ sotherton says a "cloud has lifted". i left beijing really disappointed. i went to beijing on the front of the plane, came back in the back, and i remember having an interview with natasha kaplinsky. i was so mortified, so upset, i looked awful, i was moody and so disappointed. so now, ten years later, to get two medals from that games, it would have been a different experience and thought process, leaving that games with two medals. i could be angry and bitter, but i am really like emotional and happy and looking forward to the future now. that‘s all the sport for now. the bank of england‘s governor has warned the government that a chaotic no—deal brexit could crash house prices and send another financial shock through the economy. his worst—case scenario was that house prices could fall as much tell us more what he said? as you say the newspapers have been screaming these headlines about a drop of more than a third in house price, over three careers in the event of a no—deal brexit. other doomsday things as weller for insta nce doomsday things as weller for instance there would be big job losses and we know it is jobs which have a big effect on whether people can have a big effect on whether people ca n afford have a big effect on whether people can afford houses and on house prices we this was at a cabinet meeting at which we weren‘t present, only cabinet ministers and all we hear is what ministers choose to leek about what was said, there is another possible construction on what mark carney the governor of the bank of england was on about, and this was, it was a what if scenario, what if there was a fall of more than a what if there was a fall of more thana third, what if there was a fall of more than a third, in house price, and we know that he‘s run this sort of scenario before, they call it stress testing, how can the economy stand it, but more particularly how can the banking system stand it, we know the banking system stand it, we know the system nearly buckled as a result of this happening in the crisis. we has run that test before and the result was banks could stand it because they had to put money aside for a rainy day, we know that the bank of england and mark carney are pessimistic about the impact of are pessimistic about the impact of a no—deal brexit. they have been clear about this in open interview, whether it would be a drop of a third in house price, that is not clear, it could be saying it was that bad how could we cope. rachel, how could we cope, if in this event, how could we cope, if in this event, how can people protect themselves from for the future for some it would be great new, if you a first time bayer and you have been trying to buy a property and every time you put away a bit more money the value of house in your area goes up. it is further out of reach, then that is good news of course, although it depends what else is happening to cause the fall, if there is more unemployment, then that is a problem. so certainly for first—time buyers it could be good. for people who already have homes, that is a difficult one and it is quite difficult one and it is quite difficult to protect yourself, one thing you can do is lock in to a fixed mortgage deal at a rate you are comfortable with, for as long as you think you might be comfortable staying in that home. but certainly, it isa staying in that home. but certainly, it is a very difficult one to manage, because of that level of uncertainty, and i think that that is the real fear for existing homeowner, is what happens if the value of your home starts to fall. of course it doesn‘t matter if you are not going to sell it any time soon, but if you are or if you are coming up to remortgage, so you haven‘t locked into a deal recently, then that is, that could be really difficult. fear is a potent force, isn‘t it, mark and we are heading for brexit and we don‘t at this stage know what it is going to look like, has it already been having an impact on the housing market? yes i think the market depends on sentiment, how does the bayer or seller feel, how confident are they about the future ? seller feel, how confident are they about the future? but even with brexit looming there, and it is still not clear what it means and what will happen, the market is still perform, it is subdued but through is still good level of sales, we still have an imambulance of supply as opposed to demand, we are not billing enough houses by 100,000 a year below the targets so people have to live somewhere, it is a worse case scenario people have to live somewhere, it is a worse case scenario but at the moment it is pretty stable. could you foresee a crash in house prices, of 35% ? you foresee a crash in house prices, of 35%? very difficult to foresee it, we have been through a recession ten years ago, how prices did not drop, by anything like that and most of the cases, house values have risen above where they were in... how would a figure like that compare historically with what has happened? you would probably have to go back to the early 905, when we saw 5piralling intere5t to the early 905, when we saw 5piralling interest rates, people locked in to negative equity, but at that time, the housing transaction annually were a much high level, la 5t annually were a much high level, last year it was 885,000 hou5e5 sold, which is a very low number. people are spending longer in their home, just generally, as used to be you would move every seven to eight year, now statistically it is anything between 17 and 18 years that you will remain in your home, so that you will remain in your home, so there is not that rapid churn, that we have seen historically, and i think people looking at houses, and where they live in a different way, they are not necessarily looking at it as an aspirational move all the time. wanted to move to that area so i will put my house on the market, now it is a work life balance, how am i going to keep money back to enjoy life rather than putting it into a loan lone. mark saysis putting it into a loan lone. mark says is mark carney has been the voice of doom. some of his predictions are to happen, as for house prices the number of times we have been told they would do down but the opposite has happened. it is a work life balance, how am i going to keep money back to enjoy life rather than putting it into a loan lone. mark says is mark carney has been the voice of doom. some of his predictions are to happen, as for house prices the number of times we have been told they would do down but the opposite has happened. richard "these people saying it will bea richard "these people saying it will be a good thing have no idea about how how house prices and economics work. a fall in house prices mean people will fall into negative equity, the house prices will become privately rented as landlords snap up privately rented as landlords snap up them up. fewer people will be able to get on the housing market as there won‘t be any good thing have no idea about how how house prices and economics work. a fall in house prices mean people will fall into negative equity, the house prices will become privately rented as landlords snap up them up. fewer people will be able to get on the housing market as there won‘t be any more houses stock." "falling house prices would be great for young people. people." simon, i presume there has been no clarification from mark carney. no, and we don't get to get transcripts of cabinet meetings for many year, that point about negative equity is the important one. i guess the first thing is prices fall because nothing is happening. people aren‘t able to ta ke happening. people aren‘t able to take advantage, they might not have a job take advantage, they might not have ajob any take advantage, they might not have a job any more or they might not have the resources but that point about negative equity, if you have a big fall in house price, many people have bought houses in the last ten yea rs or have bought houses in the last ten years or so at high prices, so if the price falls it means they can‘t sell and pay back their mortgage, thatis sell and pay back their mortgage, that is a trap, that is the really terrible thing that would happen if we had this domesday scenario of a big fall in house prices. just quickly, i know we are out of time. even if prices don't drop that dramatically the interest rates that people have to pay, if the value of their homes has fallen so they have got houses that are worth less but they still have the same level of debt they will pay more probably in interest rates which will pinch as well. thank you sr all very exclusive figures obtained by this programme show the number of people being arrested and charged with shoplifting is decreasing across england — while the number of offences is going up. between 2013 and 2017 home office statistics show that the number of offences of shoplifting rose by nearly 23%. but figures obtained by this programme show that during the same period arrests of shoplifters dropped by 17% and charges fell by 25% in that time. dan clark—neal has this exclusive report. and are you still on the tablet that you were on as the heroin replacement? yeah, subutex. so you‘ve had no relapses? no. kelsie was just 14 years old when she was introduced to drugs and taught how to steal from shops. she‘s now 22 and has since served seven prison sentences for shoplifting. figures obtained by this programme show people like kelsie becoming increasingly unlikely to be arrested and charged for shoplifting, despite the number of offences going up. after her last conviction, and despite being a probation order, she was only given a suspended sentence. she‘s recognised that people are getting away with shoplifting more than ever before. you‘re not bothered about the consequences. nine times out of ten they‘ve built up before you get caught, and once you do get caught its like a four month jail sentence, and you do two months of that, which is eight weeks. they don‘t have time to do anything with you and are basically putting you back out there in the same position you went in. as in wanting to be on drugs? yeah, yeah. what‘s the support like in prison in terms of your drug habit? well, there‘s loads of spice in there. i was smoking that while i was detoxing and i ended up self harming really bad, all my arms. i was asking them to refer me to the mental health unit but they wouldn‘t do it. there‘s too many people waiting, and you‘ve got not got a long enough sentence to be referred through. so as far as you are concerned, there was not enough rehabilitation? i don‘t think there‘s any unless you are doing a long, long time. when you‘ve come out of prison, you‘ve got on to reoffend and that‘s because? well, you know you‘re only going to get a short sentence, eight weeks, ten weeks. now not even nothing because i walked out with a suspended sentence and it‘s still a bit surreal, and this is like, three months. so our programme has discovered there‘s been a rise in shoplifting offences within england, but a reduction in the number of arrests and charges. why do you think that is? i think that‘s because, now, it used to be over £50 and you get charged with shoplifting, but i think it‘s gone up to £200 now. people who are just going to get their first thing of the day, they‘lljust grab like 40 quids‘ worth and selling it for 20 quid which is getting them three bags. three bags of heroin? yeah. do you think people are perhaps getting away with it more now than they used to? yeah. definitely. like, when you walk into the town centre everyone‘s at it. figures already available from the home office show that the number of offences of shoplifting rose by nearly 23% between 2013 and 2017. this programme then asked every police force across england how many arrests they‘d made for shoplifting offences during that time. and, subsequently, how many of those arrests led to charges. of the 38 forces we asked, 27 responded. figures show that the number of arrests of shoplifters dropped by 17% over those five years. then, once arrested, shoplifters are becoming increasingly unlikely to be charged, as the number of charges dropped by 25%. in just one year, the metropolitan police service recorded more than 47,000 shoplifting offences. that‘s almost 130 offences a day. so i‘ve come to one of the nation‘s busiest streets tojoin them on patrol. metropolitan police sergeant rob harris leads a policing team covering oxford street and deals with shoplifters on a daily basis. he told me that offenders are now being dealt with outside police stations using alternatives to arrest like street cautions. what it is, yes, the arrests are going down, but that‘s because the vast majority we are dealing with out on the streets and never bringing them into custody in the first place. that way the officers can still deal with the offence, but are back out on the street that much quicker because you‘re not taking them into custody, you‘re not going through the whole process. we got a limited number of officers and we can‘t deal with everyone so the shops themselves will self—assess whether it‘s worth calling us or not. if it is, if they‘ve had issues, if it‘s been a violent shoplifter, they‘ll phone us. if it‘s somebody they recognise, they‘ll phone us. so do you think that cuts have had an impact on how shoplifters are dealt with? it‘s made us look at other ways we can deal with it. this, you being on patrol on oxford street in uniform, is something that you maybe don‘t see on every street in britain any more due to the impact of cuts. so do you think having a police presence on oxford street on a day like today will help deter shoplifters, or do you think it doesn‘t really make any difference? it does, yes. obviously oxford street is going to be extremely busy in the summer. the busier it is, the more shoplifters and pockets feel safe because safety in a crowd, it‘s harder to spot them. so if they‘re out here looking around, they see police officers around, they will go elsewhere or they‘ll think, "no, there‘s too many around, it‘s not worth it today." whilst kelsie has been in prison for shoplifting she says she knows people who are getting away with it with no fear of any consequences, and for every shoplifter there‘s a shop owner whose profits take a hit. in fact, earlier this year, the association of convenience stores reported the number of shoplifting offences had doubled in the last 12 months. paul owns two convenience stores in coventry and says the losses he faces from shoplifting are now so high that he recently had to close his third store. i‘ve never known shop crime as bad as it‘s been for the last two or three years now. it‘s costing us a lot on our business plan and it‘s put a big impact on our business. if i look at monetary values, i can tell you that, some weeks, we are losing £1,000 of stock a week. can i survive that? no. should i be passing that on to my customers, my community? no. we‘re now having to put more resources in, so when we put new cctv in it hits our business rates because we‘ve added another value, so with had to work with a company that have come up with a sticker solution, so we‘re putting our id stickers on our products, so it goes on protein, fresh meat, which is a big target for shop theft, tea, coffee, beverages, household products. and then onto spirits. now, should i be doing that in my store? this is a community store. you know, i shouldn‘t be targeting my everyday customers and putting tags on every product. i shouldn‘t be doing that. it‘s not only that i‘m losing product out the front door, i‘m now putting more costs my bottom line because of what is going on. there‘s been a rise in shop crime in the last two to three years. why do think that is? so, look, we talk about shoplifters. our good friends the local police made this big announcement that under x amount of pounds, we are not coming out any more. you now have to report it electronically by e—mail or upload a video by e—mail. was that the right thing to do, to tell the shoplifters that we‘re not doing it? it‘s telling these guys, go and do more because we haven‘t got the resources to do it. if somebody stole a coffee from me or takes money out of my till, it‘s a robbery. i should be getting someone to come out. but by the time i‘ve reported it, if i‘ve gone on that phone to report it, ig i dial the normal number i‘m not getting a response, if i do 999 then i‘m getting quizzed, "is it an emergency?" of course, it‘s an emergency. we need response. we‘ve got to get response out here. and i haven‘t seen no police down here, to be honest with you. and i‘m not saying that the police are doing a bad job, all i‘m saying is, police, come on, start asking the questions and get some more resources. you need the resources, so start pressing the buttons and ask for resources. let‘s make our communities a safer place. the home office told us all crimes reported to police should be taken seriously and investigated. and, where appropriate, met with tough sentences. and that it‘s important retailers report shoplifting so the police can take action. they also said the police response to shoplifting is an operational matter for chief constables and police and crime commissioners. form the let‘s speak now to chris noice, association of convenience stores, mike trace, ceo of the forward trust, who try and stop people who are in the cycle of reoffending. thank you forjoining us. chris you represent thousands of venus stores, are you hearing that shoplifting is on the rise from them? absolutely, the figures you have had in the report tell you what we hear from retailer, there are a million insta nce retailer, there are a million instance of shop theft reported in the last year and there is increasing frustration from retailer that this isn‘t being dealt with and the case you had with paul, it seems like it is the norm that the initial responses is quiet from the police but they have to kick up a fuss and do something public to get response from a police and crime commissioner orfrom a local from a police and crime commissioner or from a local beat police officer. do they always bother to report it? this is the problem, so we‘re —— where more incidents get reported and not dealt with that can lead to us from train, retailer are therefore less lick likely to report incidents if they are not being dealt with, the figures go down and thatis dealt with, the figures go down and that is not the case. retailers and their staff get frustrated and want to intervene and stop people, that are committing these, and that is a growing problem, because the people that are committing the crimes are not in fear of police intervention, and they are more willing to get you know, violent incidents and be abusive to the people that are trying to protect their businesses. so when you say increasing numbers of shopkeepers are fighting back, what are they doings? there are a range of issue, what paul has done in his store, as we saw in the piece earlier was he had to go extreme measures to lock up his fridges and freezer, and retailers are doing a lot of different things to invest in crime prevention measure, with these people not being in fear of any intervention from the police, they are willing to do more to get away with less. mike, you are with a charity that tries to stop this cycle of reoffending, what is the best way to achieve that? well a large proportion of the figures you are talking about is driven by individual, homeless mental people with addictions who are shoplifting to pay for their habits so that has driven the figures for many years, so driven the figures for many years, so intervening with those estimated two to 300,000 people in the country, who have that lifestyle, and daily shoplifting or daily crime to support that lifestyle, is the most effective way to reduce the number, we used to have a information a system to intervene, refer those people to treatment, give them the chance to break that cycle but that system is hollowed out now. you would think if there is, as you say, that incredible number of people who are reoffending, who are shoplifting as theirform of income, they would be known and it would be easy to stop them. the story that the road on the bt is instructed not rarer, shoplifting is not seen as a major crime, not something that takes you to crown court, so quite often people cycle around the system, they get short sentences, community sentences but no intervention is made to break the cycle. what we need to work harder at is breaking the cycle so those people don't go out every morning to go shoplifting and buy more drugs. we can bring in adam ratcliffe, former police officer, thanks for joining adam ratcliffe, former police officer, thanks forjoining us. we know there have been budget cuts to the police forces. and therefore priorities have to be made, how low down the list of priorities is shoplifting? i'm not sure whether it's high or low on a list of priorities, it's more to do with the police service having to assess what the threat, risk of harm to members of the public is, inevitably that's going to fall lower down the list than crime or anything that involves a level of balance. chris, how do you respond to that, how do shopkeepers see it was to mark crime isa crime, shopkeepers see it was to mark crime is a crime, this sort of incident often is a crime, this sort of incident ofte n lea ds is a crime, this sort of incident often leads to violence, without leading —— investigating the incident in the first place can lead toa incident in the first place can lead to a greater volume of crime and place greater burden on the police. adam, is there a danger that of crimes aren‘t dealt with people doing this get more brazen because evenif doing this get more brazen because even if no violence is involved in one crime, you have a potentially vulnerable person working in the shop who will be impacted by what has happened ? shop who will be impacted by what has happened? absolutely and that's why we think shoplifting is much more important than a lot of people think it is because it is a gateway crime, something that people start to do, they get away with that for a period of time and then they will transfer hand at something more serious. we see the level of violence attributed with shoplifting increasing and people who are working in the shops are members of public at the end of the day, they are at risk. so what is the answer? i don't have a specific answer, i think there's two different ways to look at it, one has got to be approaching mental health and addiction issues in a better way because of the underpinnings so many crimes we have to deal with the other way is try and untidy police services handling in a little bit with regards to workload they need to do in order to prosecute people for so—called low—level crimes. mike, that‘s what you are talking about, that holistic approach.” agree with that, it's important to remember some years ago we brought the rates of shoplifting, burglary and drug related crime down by intervening with large numbers of people offering them a chance of treatment and breaking the cycle. what happened? treatment and breaking the cycle. what happened ? austerity, treatment and breaking the cycle. what happened? austerity, that syste m what happened? austerity, that system involved investment, a police level, courts and prisons in treatment programmes, all of those budgets for those activities were reduced over the last five years. so less people are being given the option to get out of that lifestyle. we just need to build that system back—up. we just need to build that system back-up. chris, do shopkeepers feel like they are on the front line? absolutely, i echo the points about the proportion of shop that motivated by a drug or alcohol addiction and we did some work with the centre for socialjustice last year of which you can break the cycle a nd year of which you can break the cycle and one of the ways was about getting people when they offend to have a second chance to help them and to stop reoffending because this is the issue, these people aren‘t being picked up properly by the system and let‘s remember, these police let prosecutions, it people just getting fines and letters, that‘s only supposed to happen for a person with a first—time offence under repeat offenders going around everywhere not being ticked up. what are the chances of fines being paid, adam, if someone is stealing because they want money? next to zero, especially when you throw in addiction problems, drug or alcohol, people are stealing to feed a habit and there is no deterrent that is more severe than the fear of going without the thing you are addicted to sue ultimately that is never going to take priority. it's not necessarily be works to me bad people, they are just people suffering from an addiction that is overbearing and takes over their entire life. thank you all very much and let us know your thoughts if you are watching at home and you have a particular concern about that. let me bring you some news from the prisons minister rory stewart on the news that we were bringing you a little earlier about those demonstrations outside prisons across the country this morning. the prisons minister has said prison officers do vital and important work and we urge them to return to the duty stations in line with their obligations to the law and prison service, it‘s irresponsible of the prison officers‘ association to encourage their members to take this unlawful action. we are deploying our contingency plans but by not turning up for work and prison officers are putting their fellow staff and inmates at risk. yesterday we doubled the prison sentence anyone who assaults prison officers, we‘ve increased pay, provided more tools like body worn cameras and investing £42 million to improve the estate and tackled the drugs problem which is fuelling much of the problems. we‘ve also employed three and a half thousand more officers. that reaction from the prisons minister on the unofficial action by prison officers. it‘s illegalfor prison officers. it‘s illegalfor prison officers. it‘s illegalfor prison officers to go on strike. still to come... hurricane florence‘s high winds and heavy rains are already battering parts of the united states — we‘ll have more on that in the next few minutes. we‘ll be talking to london rapper ghetts about his album, which tackles issues like colourism and female black identity. now time for a sports update. here is hugh. good morning. simon yates is still wearing the leader‘s red jersey at the vuelta a espana — so could he become the third british cyclist to win a grand tour this year, after the feats of chris froome and geraint thomas? he‘s 25 seconds ahead of a former winner of the vuelta, alejandro valverde, with two meaningful stages to come before sunday‘s processional finish in madrid. still a huge time to come before the entry into andorra. after nearly two decades, surrey are the county cricket champions once again. they won at worcestershire yesterday to give themselves an unbeatable lead. the celebrations could begin, when they went past the victory target of 271. surrey have been led brilliantly, by the man with his back to us, captain rory burns. great britain‘s dressage team have won bronze at the world equestrian games in north carolina — earning them qualification for the olympics in tokyo 2020. charlotte dujardin was riding her new horse freestyle, who she says reminds her of the famous valegro, the partner who won her two olympic gold medals. kelly sotherton has been talking about receiving her second bronze medalfrom the beijing olympics — ten years on. the presentation was at a team gb ball last night — she was upgraded from fifth to third after two of her rivals failed drugs tests. tilly griffiths was inspired to apply to study in the u—s after watching high school musical — and now, after achieving three as and an a* in her a—levels, she‘s on her way there. and she‘s the first student to receive funding for 24—hour care while she is in the us. it's it‘s always been my dream to attend university in america. congratulations to her! in a few hours‘ time hurricane florence is expected to make landfall on the eastern coast of the united states. strong winds and heavy rains are already affected parts of the region. let‘s talk now to mark robinson and jaclyn whittall. mark and jaclyn are both stormchasers who have travelled together to wilmington, north carolina — where the eye of the storm is expected to pass over shortly. tiffany folsom has been forced to evacuate from her home in north carolina, and is currently staying in a hotel several hours away in tennessee. eeileen beavers is in onslow county, north carolina — inside the mandatory evacuation zone — but has decided to stay put and is currently in her home. we canjust we can just about make her out in the dark of her home. jessica michot and angela lorio are aid workers joining us from louisianna. eileen, we can barely see you, why have you decided to stay put and what is it like eric now?” have you decided to stay put and what is it like eric now? i decided to stay put because i have pets and there was a lack of places to go with my pets, a lot of my family was not able to take my pets in. a love of my friends were not able to take my pets in and i was not linked to leave them, it is not the best situation, a tree actually came down on my hands a couple of hours ago. it didn‘t break through the roof or anything and were all good, everyone is safe but it‘s really dark and very windy and there is a lot of rain coming. you are in the dark because you have a power cut? yes, the power went out around 8:30pm, 9pm last night. are you worried? a little bit, yeah. i‘m safe, i‘m good, there is nothing physically happening to me, i‘m a lot better off than other people, in places where it‘s flooding, i‘m better off than that thank god that a tree came down in my house in the room next to mine, where the tree hit the roof. you say it didn‘t break through but has it damage the structure of the house? yeah, we can tell that that has come at the door frame is a little walk, there is water leaking into the roof in that room. so it‘s probably most definitely caused some damage, wejust probably most definitely caused some damage, we just can‘t really evaluate the extent of the damage until we can see outside. mark and jacklin, the storm chasers, tell us where you are and what it‘s like. jacklin, the storm chasers, tell us where you are and what it's like. we are in downtown wilmington, it feels like the eye ball are in downtown wilmington, it feels like the eyeball is coming onshore right now, multiple power flashes in the last five minutes, the paris been fluctuating like crazy.” the last five minutes, the paris been fluctuating like crazy. i don't know if we can show you the view, that's what we are seeing, it's getting really bad here down by the water. we are certainly seeing the brunt of florence, this is the strongest part of the storm, the eyeball starting to come on. so it seems, we could see the force of the wind blowing something when you showed us the other side where you can see, but you‘re obviously in a vehicle, how safe are you? we know that the strength of the wind at this point, we are saved in the vehicle, if this was any higher in terms of the categories strengthened wind speed we would not be staying, we would be going south, yes it's possible a tree or something could come flying out the car but other than that we are safe and we might ta ke than that we are safe and we might take shelter here. tiffany, you decided that you would follow the mandatory evacuation order. loss of sound. honestly, it'sjust been stressful. we are about eight hours from the coast in words through tennessee right now and it's been brutaljust getting out of there, you know. some places didn't have gasoline. it was a game of finding gasoline. it was a game of finding gas for the vehicles just to get here and once we got some work, we we nt here and once we got some work, we went to a place called asheville, getting into a hotel was a hassle and they raised the prices so we had to find, i spent all morning finding other places to stay which is why we had to go to tennessee to find cheaper places to stay. luckily a lot of the hotels allow pets right now or are awaiting the bees, we have a dog and cat with us butjust getting out of it all has been an entirely new, stressful mission. but at least we can say we are safe from it from what i'm hearing, it's not looking so pretty. how do you feel leaving everything behind, have you been able to protect your property? well, we went a house right now and ido well, we went a house right now and i do have a truck in my driveway right now but i had to leave. we chose to leave tuesday, as soon as the mandatory evacuation happened because the house we are in is surrounded by about four big, big trees and that wasn't the flooding i was entirely concerned with, more so the trees, it's a 1—5torey house, they are not built to withstand too much damage so i'm not worried about what's there, honestly, i was more worried about making sure we would get through the situation more than anything. all that is replaceable, i'mjust anything. all that is replaceable, i'm just hoping there is a house still there for me go back but from the sounds of it jacksonville isn't getting it merely as bad as newburn which is an hour from jacksonville. i saw this morning on facebook that flooding is to the point further have to get up onto their rooftops, it could be worse. jessica and angela, q or aid workersjoining us from louisiana, what are you anticipating? we are anticipating having a lot of life—threatening situations with the disability community we serve. it‘s a matter of life and death, some on ventilators or will ion technology to live, they have to have power, it‘s not an option. we are hoping that overall loss of life is at a minimum, we know loss of property will be high and that's unavoidable. tell us more about you are exactly and what you are going to be doing. we are in baton rouge, louisiana, we have special medical supplies, we have what traditional relief will not have, the stuff you have you cannot get in the store, no other relief organisation has this specialised medical supplies that we have. we are staying, we waiting until it said then be work with port light. awk and some former cajun navy members, 18 wheeler boards come off whatever it means necessary, whatever it means necessary, whatever is requested and needed we get the supplies to whoever needs it as quickly as possible. sorry, you are in the dark, are you also affect bya are in the dark, are you also affect by a power cut? no, it'sjust really early in the morning for us. it's not even 5am yet. obviously when you are working in these environments and trying to get help, those are the sorts of issues you will be contending with. yes. we are not strangers to that, we both have children with disabilities and we are very familiar with that life, some of the equipment that we provide supplies, we provide ventilators supplies, condition specific, supplies such as specialised formulas that you can't purchase at traditional stores. one of the biggest challenges when people with a disability are evacuated to a shelter or different places, they might not have a generator. and they may not be able to have a wheelchair, you know, so wheelchair users are going to have challenges. so it‘s to help all of those get what they need, for ever they are. eileen, you are in the dark and it‘s obviously dark outside but are you able to look out of your windows and see what‘s going on, how are you handling this? so, we have been able to look outside and see what‘s going on, we can definitely tell that the wind has picked up, weekend editor lisi there‘s been roof tiles blown off the house. —— we can definitely see. it‘s not been comforting, that‘s for sure. we can hear the wind blowing by the house and things are hitting the roof and it‘s not the most exciting time in my life. well we wish you all the very best, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. he s seen by many as one of the most influential grime artists. now in his latest album, london rapper ghetts is tackling issues of colourism and female black identity. ghetto gospel: the new testament ? is out today, and his single black rose, is his take on raising his daughter and the feelings she ll have as she grows up, about a society that can marginalize people, rather that celebrate diversity. its about facing discrimination from within the black community for being too black, or not black enough. ghetts is here to talk to us about his album and a whole range of other things, but first here s a bit of the video for black rose ? featuring his daughter... daddy, how comes there‘s no girls that look like me in the shop? # my daughter, she a princess # the world ain‘t slaughtering her skin yet # these kaynes have not become important to the kims yet # but when she gets older they‘ll be brothers same colour as her pappa # who will not be showing any sort of interest # have mercy on my brothers yea # disrespecting women who remind them of their mothers them of their sisters # disrespecting women who remind them of their cousins # have mercy on my brothers # everyone‘s entitled to their own taste welcome, your six—year—old daughter starring in that video and for you, the focus of the concerns in the album and the issue should and the things you fear for her growing up. as her father and being things you fear for her growing up. as herfather and being someone from black descent, to seeing a constant struggle within our culture when we decide to look at the darker skinned as something that‘s not cool, something that we have a problem with and sometimes mainstream media portrays this as well, you know? so i felt like speaking on portrays this as well, you know? so ifelt like speaking on it, representing my mother, my sister, my cousins, my daughter of course, you know, and i wanted to speak on that. is it something you seem particularly affecting your loved ones, have been specific examples or isn‘t a broader issue? ones, have been specific examples or isn't a broader issue? it's a broader issue, my loved ones are strong and they have managed to empower themselves, you know and walk with their heads high and be very confident but even saying after i released this song, i‘ve had so many messages from different women saying, you know what, i‘m glad you‘ve spoken on this, this is something i have faced throughout my yea rs. something i have faced throughout my years. and it‘s definitely a subject worth tackling and talking about. do you believe that music will make a difference, i mean grime has come a long way from its roots, hasn‘t it, it‘s become for mainstream. long way from its roots, hasn‘t it, it's become for mainstream. yes. yeah, i believe music can always make a difference, the emotion, it ta ps make a difference, the emotion, it taps some people understand when they tap into the emotion of what someone says, because some were deemed as something i would not normally do, it‘s more powerful coming from the because it‘s not something i would normally do. serena williams with her outburst on court has had a huge reaction and that sort of cartoon coverage of what happened there. is all that, sorry to cut in, i felt like it was undone out worst, in the moment, you work very hard, and a thumbs up, i believe what it was, in that moment, the heat of the moment she wanted to let that person no, you are actually cheating me, you are cheating me out of something i have worked hard for, that i deserve. you are talking about the weight you feel women are treated, do you think she was treated, do you think she was treated differently because of her sex interracial background with the reaction to what happened on court? —— and her racial background. reaction to what happened on court? -- and her racial background. no one knows the umpires intentions but i definitely think she was treated unfairly, yes. i want to talk a bit about four you have, from and for you are now, obviously, brian sort of started in 2000 and your name is ghetto, your performance name implies a certain background, in terms of your background, you grew up terms of your background, you grew up in terms of your background, you grew upina terms of your background, you grew up in a pretty stable environment, didn‘t you? up in a pretty stable environment, didn't you? a family home, very stable, in terms of my family but outside of that home, i actually come from, newham, not so stable. i had different influences coming from everywhere, as a child, so my name is ghetto because that‘s what we represent, we represent the less fortu nate, represent, we represent the less fortunate, you understand ? represent, we represent the less fortunate, you understand? when i talk about certain things i am talking about things that people can relate to from four i‘m from, but it can also inspire them. because i sit with you here today on bbc two and i‘ve not got here by accident. and that‘s inspiring for someone watching that from where i come from. and they are going to learn how to get her i got to, you know, and how to better themselves and thatis and how to better themselves and that is inspiration. when you sort of became attracted to rap, what difference did that make in your life? massive difference. it may be more focused and strive for something. you know, i liked the lyricism of it, bad side of things, the writing, story telling, the beginning, middle, end, the literature, the punctuation, the metaphors, the double entendre is. i was really attracted to that. and people who don‘t necessarily listen to the sword of music that you do, might not appreciate that there is all about in it. yet, you know, it's like anything, though, if you are, ifi like anything, though, if you are, if i say to you go and see this movie, yet? and it‘s got action for five minutes and you walk out of the cinema and then you say to your friend, that‘s a really bad movie, i am not really into action but that was the first and it was a romance really and that was just a clip of action, you need to stay to watch the whole movie, go to the credits, to really pastored ant and criticise that movie and know what it‘s about, just using that as an example, sometimes i feel like when people look from the outside looking in at the culture they might see fozz at the culture they might see fozz at the top of the culture and not take any further to find differences because you know what, everyone is an individual and everyone is individually different, some might not do what i do, they bring something different to the table, someone something different to the table, someone might like what they do. great to talk to, thank you somewhat. thank you. take care. bbc newsroom live coming up next, thanks for your company, i will see you very for your company, i will see you very soon, for your company, i will see you very soon, have a lovely weekend. goodbye. hello, good morning, the weather staying quite changeable over the next few days, probably worth keeping an umbrella handy. some sunshine, sunny spells rather than clear blue skies and sunshine, this is the scene in derbyshire, across northern england some quite heavy rain, sinking southwards, breaking up rain, sinking southwards, breaking up into showery rain as we go into the afternoon. into the north midlands, staying right word across northern ireland, central and southern scotland, to the north of that, sunny spells, in the south—east sunny spells, temperatures in the mid to high teens. overnight some showers across the central area, to the north and south of that, try, clear spells, could turn quite chilly especially in the north—east of scotland, temperatures in aberdeen reaching 4 degrees but lower than that in the countryside, over the weekend quite changeable stop for many on saturday, dry, rain pushing into northern ireland, rain and likely to be more widespread on sunday, drier weather around as well. goodbye. this is bbc news i‘m annita mcveigh. these are the top stories developing at 11. hurricane florence begins lashing the east coast of the united states. the hurricane is moving towards land with wind speeds of up to 90mph. sea water is flooding coastal streets and a hundred thousand homes are without power. much of the surrounding region looks like a ghost town as people head for shelters or are hunkering down at home. meanwhile thousands of people have begun evacuating from coastal areas of the philippines as a super typhoon heads towards the country. also coming up , prison staff are taking "protest action" over safety concerns. the prison officers association, warns of "unprecedented levels of violence" in jails.

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