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BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire December 12, 2017

Programme she lives with the guilt that she didnt report him to the police sooner. Hello. Welcome to the programme, between now and ham well bring you the latest news, sport and interviews and should women be paid to breastfeed 7 we would very much like to hear from mums and dads on this. A trial involving 10,000 new mums suggests if they are given shopping vouchers then breastfeeding rates go up only by 6 but they go up nonetheless. And britain has one of the lowest rates in europe. If you are a parent would do you think . Our top story today four people are being questioned on suspicion of murder, after three children died in a house fire in salford, early yesterday morning. Their mother and another three year old child remain in a serious condition in hospital. Our correspondent dave guest is at the scene in worsley. What is the latest . The latest is those arrests overnight, it was 5am yesterday the fire broke out on this street in Greater Manchester when firefighters arrived they found a mid terraced house midway down the street well ablaze. Two 16 year old boys had escaped but a mother and herfour children were trapped inside. They we re children were trapped inside. They were rescued but a 14 Year Old Girl was pronounced dead at the scene, a seven Year Old Girl and an aged old boy, brother and sister, were pronounced dead in hospital. Still in hospital is the mother, michelle, as his her three Year Old Girl. Overnight we saw the arrests after the police announced this was not just a tragic accident but a murder investigation. Four people, three men and a woman arrested on suspicion of murder and a man arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. This is a tragedy which has affected the whole community. Flowers started arriving and last night a church opened its doors so people could go and light a candle and say a prayer for those who have lost their lives. And the mother and daughter who are still fighting for their lives in hospital. Ben is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. Temperatures of minus 13 celsius have been recorded in shropshire on what was the coldest night of the year so far. Hundreds of schools have been closed across england and wales, and motorists are being warned to take care in hazardous driving conditions. Tom burridge has the latest. Freezing ice on the roads is expected to be a problem in much of the country. As temperatures drop to record lows. In parts of wales temperatures dropped to around minus ten. The village in shropshire was the coldest, are perishing minus 13. At kew gardens it was 3. 7. So with lots of snow still around from yesterday and the weekend, it will be hard going as roads turned icy this morning. It looks stunning from up this morning. It looks stunning from up here but there are weather warnings for snow and ice in eastern scotla nd warnings for snow and ice in eastern scotland and Eastern England and the ice in Northern Ireland, wales, the midlands, and the south and south east of england. But fun for some as hundreds of schools closed again. The Us Ambassador to britain says he expects donald trump to visit the uk in the new year despite his recent twitter row with theresa may. Woodyjohnson told bbc radio 4s today programme that the disagreement was probably misinterpreted. Mrs may had said mr trump was wrong to share videos posted by the far right Group Britain first, prompting an online backlash from the us president. A radical change to the rules around Organ Donation in england is being unveiled today as ministers launch a consultation on moving to a system of presumed consent. The reform would mean opting out of being a donor rather than the current scheme of opting in, wales has already taken the approach and the Scottish Government plan to deduce a similar scheme. Dominic hughes reports. Offering a stranger the gift of life is what lies at the heart of Organ Donation. These are the names of those whove helped some of the 6,500 people who need a transplant each year, but around a50 will die before a donor can be found. The family of Adrian Williams were happy to support his decision to donate. When you lose someone, and theyve given that gift, that huge gift, youre immensely proud of them and it fills you with comfort that other families are actually enjoying the lives of their loved ones, where they may not have done, because of something that our ade has done for them. The past decade has seen a big surge in donors across the uk. In 2007, there were around 790 deceased donors. Thats now risen to more than 1400. The number of registered donors has gone up from 14 million to more than 23 million. But ministers are concerned that four out of ten families say no to donation, so are proposing a system where its assumed we are all willing to be donors. The issue of presumed consent is one thing we are looking at. What we need is much better communication inside families so that people know what family members actually want. There are some concerns that moving to a system where there is an assumption we are willing to donate could be counter productive, undoing the good work of recent years by raising fears over the government having a claim on our organs. The industry regulator for gambling is warning that children as young as 11 are using a so called skin betting websites which let players gamble with virtual items as currency. Once those items are won online, using modified guns or knives within a video game which is known as a skin, they can be sold and turned back to real money. Its pa rt and turned back to real money. Its part of a wider report for the Gambling Commission which says around half a million children and young people gamble every week. Clive lewis has been cleared by the party of sexual harassment, he was put under investigation last month, he was investigated after claims he groped her in the labour conference in brighton. Mr lewis denied the accusation and said he was pleased to put it behind him. Research seen by this programme suggests that 12 of male sex workers have been sexually assaulted and that over 70 would be unlikely to report crimes to the police. Its estimated there are as many as 100,000 sex workers across the uk 20 of which are thought to be men. Later in the programme, well hear from four male sex workers about their experiences. Offering new mothers Cash Incentives could significantly increase breastfeeding rates according to a new study. More than 10,000 new mums were offered shopping vouchers worth up to £120 if babies received breast milk at two days, 10 days and six weeks old. A further £80 of vouchers was available if they continued to receive breast milk up to six months. Adina campbell reports. Breast feeding the newest member of the sutcliffe family is a lot easier a Second Time Around but, after fionas first daughter was born, she was spurred on by shopping vouchers during the toughest moments. It really encouraged me to keep going, especially when the night was quite difficult and i thought about giving up Breast Feeding but that was another incentive to keep going, and especially given its so easy to sort of claim the vouchers. Fiona was one of more than 10,000 mums who took part in a study over 18 months. They were offered up to £200 in shopping vouchers at five different stages of Breast Feeding. £40 at two days old and the same amount at ten days, six weeks, three months and six months. Before getting the vouchers, claim forms were signed off by midwives or Health Visitors during visits. Overall, the Breast Feeding rates went up by 6 , which researchers believe is a big difference. We do know that biologically and physiologically, we are designed to breast feed. We know that 99 of women, given the right support, can breast feed. There are plenty of benefits to Breast Feeding but these mums in sheffield have mixed views about being paid to do it. I dont think, you know, it should really be monetary. And i think some people might get persuaded just because of the money. If you cant do it, its fine, too. But, yeah, having an incentive wiill definitely help and just get the message out there. The uk has some of the lowest Breast Feeding rates in the world. Researchers say vouchers are a small price to pay with long term benefits to babies and the nhs. Adina campbell, bbc news. On twitter, i am tired of best is breast, with the same logic women who give birth naturally should be given vouchers compare to those who get a given vouchers compare to those who getac given vouchers compare to those who get a c section as it is lest costly. Another says that many women would like to breast feed but cannot, does the pressure not add to their already unrealistic guilt . Another says id breast fed all of my children for over a year, there was no need to offer payment, please do not waste any more of the states money. We would like to talk to you especially if you have just had a baby and can spare us on it. Well be talking to some mothers later on. Lets get the sport. Englands cricketers preparing for a game they cannot lose. They cannot, they are 2 0 down in the ashes and are in perth ahead of the ashes and are in perth ahead of the third test, lots of criticism not just further performances, the third test, lots of criticism notjust further performances, they have lost in both games, some problems off the field as well, a lot of headlines being made, jonny ba i rstow lot of headlines being made, Jonny Bairstow earlier in the tour, in perth in a bar with a rather curious head butt greeting for cameron ba ncroft of head butt greeting for Cameron Bancroft of australia and last week, ben duckett in the same bar, one of the england lions joining ben duckett in the same bar, one of the england lionsjoining the main squad, pouring his pint over the head ofjimmy anderson. They have come in for head ofjimmy anderson. They have come inforan head ofjimmy anderson. They have come in for an awful lot of flick. Michael vaughan the former england captain says they are acting like stu d e nts captain says they are acting like students and the next one to step out of line should go home. You sort joe root, the england captain, Michael Vaughan says some of the senior players should be held accountable and need to get everybody in line. Alastair cook is an elder statesman of the side and he was asked about all of this field controversy overnight. He was asked about all of this field controversy overnightlj he was asked about all of this field controversy overnight. I dont think we are getting painted fairly in the media because, on our culture, clearly there has been a couple of things, it sounds silly me saying it, but the media have brought that up. But the world has changed after the september incidents so its down to us to adjust to that and we cannot afford any more mistakes because we understand the stakes, the ecb and responses, trying to make kids play cricket is what we wa nt to make kids play cricket is what we want to do ultimately. Alastair cook will win his 150th cap in the third test and he needs some runs to go with it. He does and you have been talking to a former england cricket captain who also got in trouble on the ashes . David gower, his century in 1978 was the last time england won at the wa ca the last time england won at the waca but in 1991 he infamously did this with his fellow pilot player, secunda and a tiger moth and buzzing the field. They were both fined £1000 and david gower never quite played the same again. I spoke to him recently and asked him about englands issues. If you go back through the years, go back to my era, players let offer not a lot of stea m era, players let offer not a lot of steam on tour. If you are away for three orfour months steam on tour. If you are away for three or four months nobody expects you to be a monk and everyone is expected to have a drink at some stage and there was breaches of discipline is way back when, some of which were allowed to pass, some of which were allowed to pass, some of which were allowed to pass, some of which were dealt with severely and people got on with life. The key thing as ever in these situations is if you are producing the right results on the pitch then people are very forgiving. We had, i remember a one year against new zealand, we we re one year against new zealand, we were found in a wine bar at 1am, leaving at 1am, they had headlines ready to go in the papers the next day slamming us for being out of order but we won the game so the headline was heck, heck, hurray. Its estimated there are as many as 100,000 sex workers across the uk though some believe the true figure to be far higher. More often that not when we talk about sex workers, we focus on female prostitutes. But around 20 of them are men and their voices are very rarely heard in debates about decriminalisation and safety. Research seen by this programme suggests that 12 of male sex workers have been sexually assaulted and that over 70 would be unlikely to report crimes to the police. Weve spent time with four male sex workers who talk candidly about their own experience and why they got into the profession. Our reporter mike cowans report contains upsetting testimony and interviews that may not be suitable for children. Across britain, theres up to 100,000 sex workers. Around 20 of them are men. The most vulnerable say to survive, they have no choice. I started off with one or two people a night, then more, more. Others see it as a positive choice. It would be a full service for that, it would be 150. For some, itsjust extra income. Sex work is something that ive used to supplement my income and also to use to allow me to start my own business. For others, drug taking is demanded of them by clients. It basically involves getting high and having sex together. Often for extended periods of time. These are their stories. These are the men for sale. Weve gained rare access to four male sex workers who spoke candidly about their experiences. To protect their identity, some names and voices have been changed. Its early afternoon in east london and daniel hasjust finished his first appointment of the day. After dropping out of university, he turned to sex work and has been doing it full time for the last decade. You were with one of your clients . Yeah. Is that a regular client . No, its a new client. I moved here about six months ago. Im just building up my client base at the moment. I see mainly single men. A large proportion of them are gay and out. But also, a lot of them are married. What age brackets do they tend to be in . Generally, i would say they fall between 35 and 80. I had 85, that was probably my oldest. How much do you charge per hour . I charge massage rates of 100, but most of my customers have paid 150 for a single hour and for successive hours, they pay an extra 50. For an overnight, they would usually pay 250, but maybe upwards if they wanted to play for longer. For that money, is that whatever the client wants . I have boundaries, which is usually unsafe sex and drug taking. So, yeah, if they were wanting any kind of dominance or submission scenario, then that would be within. Within my rate. If they want any kind of top or bottom scenario, again, that would be within the rate. Experts estimate 80 of male sex workers have an online presence. And daniel is no different. He legally advertises his services through apps and websites. We spent the evening with him, to see what his busy periods are like. They start at 6pm and go on until 4am. So, youve just got a message . Yeah, someone asking if i do sensual body to body massage and what are my rates for that. What did you send back . I said my rate are 100 for an in call. So, they come and visit me 100 and 150 out. So they said, thank you. So i think that means probably my rates are too high. So, if ive not worked by 11pm or something, i might consider a lower offer. Daniel calls the customer whos been messaging him. Hello . Are you ok . So, you require one hour, yeah . One hour sensual body to body . Yeah. Is that going to be at yours, or. . It would be, like, a full service for that. It would be 150 full service body to body massage would be 100. 0k . Ok, cheers, bye. Yeah, he was looking for a bit more than the massage. So, perhaps we go to him later. I dont know, depends whether he is willing to pay the extra £50 or whether thats what he really wants. It sex work legal . The short answer is yes. You can legally buy and sell sex. Where it becomes illegal is when someone is forced to sell themselves against their will. When someone works from a brothel because brothels are illegal or when someone solicits for sex work on the streets. Around 5 of male sex workers operate on the street. Manchester has the most male street sex workers in the country. Its centred underneath the citys famed gay village. Hayley speed works for one of only a handful of organisations across the uk that supports these men. When we speak to sex workers about when they first got involved with sex work, the phrase we hear most commonly is, i started when i was i, 15. Thats not sex work when youre14, 15, thats exploitation. But, themselves, wouldnt use that language. Thats a really common theme, that it started so, so young. People tell you these things have happened without any. Without seeing it that seriously. Oh my god, i got raped the other night. Like, like, they got wet from it raining. The normalisation of, kind of, quite extreme behaviours. And they kind of, oh, do you want to tell the police . Well, no, itsjust part of, you know, its just part of the course. Fergal mccullough, who runs the charity along with hayley, took us down to the canalside hub where male street workers operate from. Although we did meet some male sex workers down here, we couldnt film those interactions. There may be people coming home from work, wandering through, seeing if they can need somebody to, you know, hook up with. That tends to happen down there. So, people go down there and engage in sex down that end. Also, cross over there, as you can see, theres mainline drug injecting going on, on that side of things. So, its quite a busy area, really. On the scale of sex work, these are some of the most vulnerable men . Yeah. Guys down here would be that more. That end, that more, you know, potentially homeless. A lot of them are care leavers. If they are not street homeless, theyre sofa surfing. Theyre certainly not working. I wouldnt necess

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