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good morning. a wintry weekend for all, with plenty of sunshine in the forecast. cold frosts, a few snow showers, and the potential of some significant snowfall some people tomorrow. join the later for all the details. in sport, another off the field incident for england on their ashes tour. it's just been revealed why batsman ben duckett was been dropped from england's ashes tour match today — it follows an incident ina match today — it follows an incident in a perth bar. and the extreme riding skills of the mounted police. i've been seeing how what they learn for their dramatic display, helps them cope with whatever is thrown at them on patrol. good morning. first, our main story. the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, is due to arrive in iran shortly, where he will express what he describes as "grave concerns" over the imprisonment of the british—iranian woman, nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe. the aid worker has been held prisoner in the country since april 2016, accused of trying to overthrow the iranian government — a charge she denies. boris johnson's first visit to iran could hardly be more sensitive. last month he was accused of damaging the case for the release of nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe by remarks he later apologised for. on his way to tehran to see iran's foreign minister, he issued a statement, saying: the foreign secretary says he will also emphasise the uk's continued support for the nuclear deal with iran, despite its repudiation by president trump. and he will also make clear uk's concerns about some of iran's activities, notably in syria and yemen. he described the relationship with iran as "improving, but not straightforward." the foreign secretary has been careful to lower any expectations of imminent release for mrs zaghari—ratcliffe, warning that such cases are very difficult. that was our diplomatic correspondent, james robbins reporting. let's speak to our security correspondent, frank gardner, whojoins us from bahrain. good morning, frank. talk about the sensitivities surrounding boris johnson's arrival in iran? sensitivities surrounding boris johnson's arrival in iran? to call this mission delicate would be an understatement. boris johnson is going to be stepping in to aid diplomatic minefield. —— a. i think the best way to think about this is that there are two irans. there is the public iran, with a democratically elect did the government under president rohani, and the foreign minister that he will meet, and the normal officials. then there is the deep state, the irani revolutionary guard, the ha rd core irani revolutionary guard, the hardcore judiciary, irani revolutionary guard, the hardcorejudiciary, the hardliners, the people who want to make a real issue out of issues such as zaghari—ratcliffe. they will make it very difficult. they will potentially have a shopping list, a wish list. if there is any talk of releasing her, and of course the foreign office is trying to separate these issues, but they will want something in return. the iranians will have carefully planned for this meeting. they will have looked at all the possibilities, they will have looked at the region. they know in advance what they are going to discuss. it is notjust the use you of the zaghari—ratcliffe, it is also yemen, syria, mrjohnson will have his demands but they will have theirs as well. they are notjust going to throw up their hands and say, you know what, we have got it wrong, maybe. they will want to play hardball. indeed, so he will have tough negotiating to do. you are in bahrain right now. there is an international security conference there. what is the significance of that? it is completely overshadowed by the recent announcement by president trump of the recognition, by the united states, ofjerusalem as the capital of israel and president trump's order to eventually move the united states embassy to jerusalem. the eventually move the united states embassy tojerusalem. the big headline here today, i can even show it to you, is in the paper here. i don't know if you can see that. trump declaration will incite radicals. everybody i have in speaking to, on the record and off the record, especially counterterrorism experts and officials from european agencies, they are really worried that this will fuel to reason. that this will give ammunition to people who will point to this declaration and say, you see, that is what the us is about. don't be friends with them, don't co—operate with them, come and join us, join isis, join al-qaeda, join us, join isis, join al-qaeda, join this or that. it is a worrying development, and that is certainly how it is being seen at this conference. frank, good to talk to you. that was our security correspondent frank gardner. so, frank was talking about the issue ofjerusalem and israel overshadowing that conference. israel has launched further airstrikes against hamas positions in the gaza strip in retaliation to rocket strikes into israel. palestinian and israeli security forces have clashed in the west bank since president trump recognise jerusalem as israel's capital on wednesday. yesterday, us ambassador to the un, nikki haley, defended the us' decision and accused the un of is against israel. —— of bias. over many years, the united nations has outrageously been at the world's foremost centres of hostility towards israel. the un has done much more damage to the prospects for middle east peace than to advance them. one of the cabinet's leading brexiteers has suggested that voters can use the next general election to have their say on a final deal with the european union, and to force a future government to change course if they don't like it. the environment secretary, michael gove, made the comments in an article in the daily telegraph, just a day after theresa may's agreement in brussels cleared the way for trade talks. jonathan, i suppose there has been time for reflection since yesterday morning? that's right. the dust has settled on that agreement and everybody has had a chance to flick through the detail. this from michael gove this morning in the telegraph is perhaps a sign of things to come for the prime minister. michael gove was of course a key leave campaigner and he has given his view of what has been agreed so far. he praises the prime minister's tenacity and skill in securing that —— in ensuring that there would be no hardboard between there would be no hardboard between the republican northern ireland, getting a settlement to about £39 billion in securing the rights of eu citizens in the uk and vice—versa. as if to remind people, worried that this might be pointing towards a soft brexit, that the uk really is taking back control, as he puts it, the key quote is this. after two yea rs of the key quote is this. after two years of transition outside the eu the british people will be in control and have full freedom to diverge from european law on the single market and customs union. the talks will move onto trade. theresa may might be thinking now that after all the hard work, that was the easy bit. jonathan, thank you. wintry weather looks set to continue, with more snow expected in northern and eastern regions of the weekend. those freezing conditions cause significant disruption to commuters yesterday, and there are properties in the west midlands still without power. some of these reindeer are getting their first taste of snow in dudley. and in the early hours, more snowfalls have been reported across the uk, although conditions are expect to ease for today. at manchester airport, wings have had to be de—iced. an image some are about to leave behind. shropshire is somewhere in this picture. undeterred. on the isle of man, the weekend began early, as all schools were closed. elsewhere, there have been problems on the roads. the extremes of the weather are expected to eventually be confined to north—east scotland, but tomorrow, a spell of heavy snow is likely over the midlands and parts of wales and northern england. 20cm is quite significant. we will press ahead of that, we will salt ahead of that, but past 20cm we might have to reduce the network and keep key routes open. that is much as you can do — 20cm is significant. the met office is warning that some in the countryside may be cut off — if the skies were not convincing enough. you saw those pictures. stav will tell us exactly which regions will be hit with the snow later on. wildfires in southern california show little sign of letting up as hot, dry winds continue to fan the flames. more than 200,000 people have fled their homes, with more preparing to evacuate today. president trump has declared a state of emergency, as sarah corker reports. in the mountains north of los angeles, wildfires are roaring through the forests of ventura county. dry winds are fanning the flames, causing them to spread rapidly, and cutting across highways. radio: these guys are scrambling. and the thick plumes of smoke billow for miles. across southern california, tens of thousands of people have already fled. and this is the destruction they are escaping from. i always equate these to my family friends as disaster war zones is what you see, with the homes that are lost, and the tragedy that hits all of these families that live in these areas. some people now returning home see what, if anything, they can salvage from the charred wreckage. it's unbelievable, it's devastating, it is horrific. there is nothing left. not a darn thing. the first fires broke out on monday, reaching the exclusive neighbourhood of bel air, in los angeles, and threatening the neighbourhoods of hollywood stars. at night, it looks like a volcano erupting, and from santa barbara to la and san diego, more than 8,000 firefighters are trying to contain these fires, the worst in living memory here. strong winds are forecast through the weekend, making for extremely dangerous conditions. an urgent review into the availablity of free—to—use atms is needed to make sure customers do not struggle to access cash, according to the consumer watchdog, which. the uk's largest atm network, link, wants to cut the fees charged to card issuers by the machines' owners. but there are concerns an overhaul of the system could result in a significant reduction of free—to—access machines. it could potentially reduce the number of atms in the uk or increase the number of pay for atms in the uk. we want to ensure that consumers have access to money in the way they want to, particularly in the face of closing bank branches, where people find it more and more difficult to get hold of a bank and get their money the way they want to. those are the main stories this morning. it is 712 a.m.. returning to our lead story now. the family of a british—iranian woman imprisoned in iran since april 2016 say they hope a visit to tehran by the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, could help to free her. mrjohnson has been under pressure to intervene in the case of nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe who is accused by iran of spying — a charge she denies. he'll also use the trip to discuss britain's relations with the country. iranian journalist sharan tabari joins us now. thank you for speaking to us this morning. shall we start those with nathan and garrett's case? —— nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe's case. we have spoken to her husband richard, who is ensuring that her story remains prominent. what you think will be achieved either boris johnson with this visit. before anything, i must say that i think the foreign secretary has taken a positive decision to go to iran to discuss nazanin‘s future. i mean, her fate. after the mistake discuss nazanin‘s future. i mean, herfate. after the mistake that discuss nazanin‘s future. i mean, her fate. after the mistake that he made in the parliament, saying that she went to iran to train journalists, which wasn't true. that was a very good decision. given the fa ct was a very good decision. given the fact that iran was mac relationship with the uk is not very active, although britain has an ambassador in iran, the relationship is not very good, it is good to see this as a step forward, i think. he is not only going to talk about nazanin. he is going to talk about the fate of all anglo—iranians who are in prison in iran and hopefully they will be a positive mood in that respect. i'm not quite sure if the foreign secretary can bring nazanin back in time for christmas, it is very short, but i am sure that some progress will be made. because it is not only nazanin‘s fate that is going to be discussed, it is a number of issues that are on the agenda for the foreign secretary. earlier we were talking to our security correspondent who was highlighting the issues in iran at the moment and the trouble the government is facing bear in terms of hardliners and what the government can be seen to do in terms of compromise. what are they balancing when they have a visit from the foreign secretary from the uk? i am sure the foreign secretary has been briefed properly by people who know the political environment in iran, and i believe that it is very important that he would talk not only to mr rouhani's government, but to other people, to the wider political perspective of iran, and thatis political perspective of iran, and that is very important. if he only limits his talks to one group of people in iran, then that can backlash, and it is important the foreign secretary shows goodwill towards everybody, regardless of what they believe. and as i said earlier, there are a number of issues to discuss that are of mutual interest to both countries, such as... the number—1 issue the fight against isis, or daesh, as they call it in iran. as you know, a few days ago the british secretary of defence announced that britain's strategy is to fight daesh. daesh is not finished, although it is defeated, in syria and iraq. it is going to reorganise itself wherever there is a week government. daesh is the number—1 enemy of iran and cooperation between britain and iran is very important in fighting daesh. another issue is the nuclear deal, which is under threat, with the trump administration in america, and the support of britain is vital for iran. ithink the support of britain is vital for iran. i think that... i am sure the foreign secretary will discuss all these matters. another issue is that we know the middle east is very volatile at the moment, and iran and the saudis are fighting a proxy war in yemen, and that is another issue of discussion which is very important, and i am sure it will be addressed. so it is a whole package. the case has prompted a very important moment in the foreign policy of britain and iran — uk relationship, i think. policy of britain and iran — uk relationship, ithink. thank you very much for your insight about the foreign secretary's visit to iran. here is stav with a look at this morning's weather. and a bit nippy, maybe a bit snowy. and a bit nippy, maybe a bit snowy. a bit smelly, yes, we could be looking at some disrupted snow as we had on towards the night and sunday morning. lots of snowy showers across the midlands, wales, scotland and northern ireland yesterday. so many weather watcher pictures, and this is just many weather watcher pictures, and this isjust a many weather watcher pictures, and this is just a select few. many from the west midlands, you will notice. shropshire was disrupted yesterday at times. elsewhere it has snowed and snow showers have continued this morning. there is likely to be some ice and treacherous driving conditions, so watch out for that. the majority of the country starts off cold, dry and frosty. remaining sunny throughout the day. if you like the cold and sunshine, a lovely day for you. snow showers towards cheshire, north wales, and a cold day if you are out on the breeze in the north—east. it will be colder than those temperatures will suggest. this is where the weather gets interesting. overnight temperatures fall away, but this weather system begins to push on from the south—west. initially ran across the south—west. it bumps into the cold, heavy snow during early hours and into sunday morning. anywhere in this zuev, the midlands, northern england and wales could see ten to 20 centimetres of snow. that is disruptive amounts of snow, especially in the uk. the met office haven't amber weather warning. if you don't have any urgentjourneys, i would suggest staying home through the morning as the snow is set to continue. it will peter out and turn back to rain as strong winds moving from the south—west. we are looking at gales for south wales and southern counties of england through the day. quite a cold feel to things despite that colder air moving in. northern ireland a cold and crisp day with sunshine. that is how sunday is looking, and as we look in the south on monday, this storm battering parts of france will give a glancing blow to southern counties of the uk. a wet and windy spell through monday across the south, potentially with a little bit of snow over higher ground. i think it is mostly going to be rain and strong winds, and gradually moving away through the course of the day. northern areas dry and bright, plenty of sunshine, and then that storm clears away and it is looking drier, finer and more settled for most of us. pretty severe weather on the way. keep tuned to the forecast and bbc local radio for the latest forecast. and we will keep tuned to you as well. should things like wolf—whistling, unwanted sexual advances and sexist remarks be classed as hate crimes? it is something police in nottingham have been doing for some time. now, the head of hate crime at the national police chiefs council has told mps that other forces are considering doing the same. the former chief constable of nottinghamshire police, sue fish, is here to discuss this, along with helen vose from nottingham women's centre. good morning to you both. so nottingham police have been doing this for some time. what has been the reaction in terms of evidence or incidents that have been reported, and what has happened with those? well, the evidence, as we were told by women in nottingham and nottinghamshire was that this was very much an everyday occurrence, and that it really impinged on their ability to fulfil their potential and go about their life, just in a very normal, natural way. and when they refer to this, unwanted sexual advances, or comments? throwaway comments? all of the above, including indecent assault, including indecent assault, including physical attack, including indecent assault, including physicalattack, in including indecent assault, including physical attack, in terms of harassment. obscene, grotesque invitations being offered to them, com pletely invitations being offered to them, completely unsolicited and unwanted. helen, how much of a problem is this? women tell us that they experience this every day, and i think they do. whether they reported to the police is a different thing. so we didn't expect incidents to go through the roof and police to be inundated, and in the first year 97 women spoke to police about it is. but it is a widespread issue and we hope i police recognising misogyny asa hope i police recognising misogyny as a hate crime that people will know that sort of behaviour is not a cce pta ble know that sort of behaviour is not acceptable in nottingham and it will go down. and those 97 incidents you talk about, give us the scope, they go from where to wear a? 0k, talk about, give us the scope, they go from where to wear a? ok, so the classic walking past a building site and someone shout something about your appearance to you as you walk past, or a young girl that the neighbour was wolf—whistling and shouting up to her every time she left the house, to the point that she didn't want to go to school any more. 0k, she didn't want to go to school any more. ok, so these are some of the cases that were reported to police, and just take us through what happened next. they are being treated in a different way than they ever had. they are being reported, what happens next? our call handlers ta ke what happens next? our call handlers take the call, and they will allocate it to be investigated by an officer. in the case that helen talked about just now officer. in the case that helen talked aboutjust now with the young girl who was continually being bombarded by her neighbour... this is... sorry, the nature of that was what? comments, or wolf is... sorry, the nature of that was what? comments, orwolf whistling? wolf whistling and comments. so we went around to talk to the goal and her mother and understood what they wa nted her mother and understood what they wanted to happen. and first and foremost, it was around it stopping and not happening again, and not happening to any other girl or woman. so went and happening to any other girl or woman. 50 went and saw happening to any other girl or woman. so went and saw the chap who lived next door, talked to him about what he had done, why he had done it, worked with him about the error of his ways, and to date there has been no further incidents whatsoever. so the purpose is around really educating rather than criminal eisen, but on occasion there will be times when committal path is the only appropriate path. so one of the things perhaps that people are hearing is no one should have to put up with behaviour like that, of any sex, no one should have to put up with any behaviour like that. but when they hear the term misogyny is a crime, what the scale, how do you judge this on a scale? is it walking past a building site and some builders wolf whistle, and make someone some builders wolf whistle, and make someone feel uncomfortable, is that a crime to be reported to the police, and understaffed and unfunded police force? outside of the police context, to me it is how it has made the woman feel.|j the police context, to me it is how it has made the woman feel. i don't think anyone denies that people will feel uncomfortable but the point of this is talking about how it tra nslates this is talking about how it translates into a crime and how it is dealt with. but i don't think it needs to be a crime. i think most of the things that have been reported incidents, and they don't become a criminal thing, but they wanted to stop. so to speak to somebody and make it stop for other women is what most women want. ok, but in terms of police time and police funding, which is something we talk a lot about on this programme, rightly so, do police have time to deal with... it isa do police have time to deal with... it is a chat, as you put it, and rightly so it needs to be flagged up, but is that the police to do it? i think up, but is that the police to do it? ithink so, up, but is that the police to do it? i think so, yes, without question. it is about saying as a woman it doesn't matter. that is normal, you can be abused like that, but for blokes, that is fine, in the main. soi blokes, that is fine, in the main. so i think it is very important. and what we have seen, as helen said, is there has not been some tsunami of demand. this is... women now have the choice. they know that it is not acceptable. they know that, if they report to nottinghamshire police they will be taken seriously, treated with empathy, with compassion. and, if we can, we will identify who is responsible and deal appropriately. can i ask you, you know the scenario, and this is the process he went through, you went to visit the neighbour who was doing this. if that person, let's say it isa man this. if that person, let's say it is a man in that situation, if you go to the door and say this is what has happened, and they say to you a crime? what does your officers say next? well, it depends. let's do the scene here. i am the person and i say have i committed a crime, officer? if i haven't committed a crime, please leave. what do you do next? well, we will attempt to talk to them. but i haven't committed a crime. you still have the opportunity to talk to someone about... not if i am saying leave opportunity to talk to someone about... not ifi am saying leave my door. i'm trying to think how this works in practice. if you get someone works in practice. if you get someone who is thick—skinned, possibly that is why they are doing it in the first place, is because they are not thinking about someone's feelings, equally well they might turn around to a police officer and say i haven't committed a crime. go and talk to someone else. at again, it is about how officers deal with that sort of circumstance, and we are very used to, police officers are very used to having conversations in difficult circumstances, and we see people day m, circumstances, and we see people day in, day out, where crimes haven't been committed. crime is actually a very small part of policing activity, where we have straightforward, consensual access to people's homes and to themselves, to people's homes and to themselves, to have difficult conversations. and thatis to have difficult conversations. and that is simply what we do. nottingham has started this, and 97 reported in the last year, and as you say, you are not going to change the world overnight. i don't think we are challenging that. it is almost how does this work in practice? other police officers are going to follow nottingham. a number already have. and what are they saying in terms of resource in, and in terms of how open officers are to adding this to their workload?” think they have found exactly what we have found in nottinghamshire, which is that it is doing the right thing is what is really important here. no one said, or i would like and it probably to domestic violence 20 years ago, where actually, well, we don't deal with that. or rape, or child sexual explication. for me this is about police being on the front foot, doing the right thing rather than being shamed, ultimately, because we have been found to be inadequate in terms of how we respond to this. and do you think that the logical progression of this, and you made the analogy with domestic crime, is that this does become officially part of hate crime legislation, if you like osemwegie semi eboigbe is that the logical step? that for me is... my collea g u es logical step? that for me is... my colleagues are looking at how we can have this adopted by every police force, rather than where there is a committed officer who brought that forward with the support of partners, and again, we are looking to work with the home office, the minister ofjustice, and to work with the home office, the minister of justice, and the to work with the home office, the minister ofjustice, and the crown prosecution service about how this can be enshrined further. and that is the message you need, isn't it? absolutely. thank you very much. stay with us. headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, is due to arrive in iran in the next few hours, where he's expected to press for the release of the british—iranian woman, nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe. the aid worker has been held prisoner in the country since april 2016. she's accused of trying to overthrow the iranian government, a charge she denies. it's expected mrjohnson will also discuss britain's wider relations with iran. one of the cabinet's leading brexiteers has suggested that voters can use the next general election to have their say on a final deal with the european union and to force a future government to change course if they don't like it. the environment secretary, michael gove, makes his comments in the daily telegraph, a day after theresa may's agreement in brussels cleared the way for trade talks. the cabinet is expected to meet in the next fortnight to discuss britain's future relationship with the eu. israel has launched further air strikes against hamas military positions in the gaza strip, in retaliation for palestinian rocket attacks on southern israel. palestinians and israeli security forces have clashed in the west bank since president trump recognised jerusalem as israel's capital on wednesday. yesterday, the us ambassador, nikki haley, defended donald trump's comments and accused the un of bias against israel. over many years, the united nations has outrageously been at the world's foremost centres of hostility towards israel. the un has done much more damage to the prospects for middle east peace than to advance them. the wintry weather looks set to continue with met office warnings in place for large parts of the uk. more snow and freezing temperatures are forecast for northern and eastern regions into tomorrow. yesterday, commuters faced problems on the roads and railways and hundreds of properties remain without power in the west midlands. now for a sharp contrast. firefighters in southern california are continuing to battle wildfires, which have destroyed hundreds of homes. more than 200—thousand people have already fled the area and many more are preparing to evacuate. president trump has declared a state of emergency as the fires continue to spread. an urgent review into the availablity of free—to—use atms is needed to make sure customers do not struggle to access cash, according to the consumer watchdog, which? the uk's largest atm network, link, wants to cut the fees charged to card issuers by the machines' owners. but there are concerns an overhaul of the system could result in a significant reduction of free—to—access machines. which could potentially reduce the number of atms in the uk or increase the number of paid—for atms in the uk. we want to ensure that consumers have access to money in the way they want to, particularly in the face of closing bank branches, where people find it more and more difficult to get hold of a bank and get their money the way they want to. the fifa world cup is still six months away but players, managers and fans will already be dreaming about how well their team might do. every minute of their very night.” can imagine. and of course we are missing paul the octopus? can imagine. and of course we are missing paulthe octopus? yes, he sadly passed away, after becoming famous for his predictions in 2010. i thought you are guessing that he died. well, octopus is only live for two years, and he lived to two and half years. it had a song and an online game named after him. these are some animals in russia trying to predict next year's result. paul wasn't russian. no, he was from weymouth, actually, then he moved to germany. that cat, that is too smart to be doing nonsense like that. well, so many animals have tried in 2014. the donkey failed to get the result right. some penguins. the slot. they were all trying to copy paul. i stopped listening when you said paul was from weymouth. is that true? yes, he moved to germany.” didn't know they had octopuses in weymouth. well, i don't know if he was wild, or... so much to think about and talk about. we have some breaking news coming from australia this morning. you must move on to that. the players went out in perth and there was an incident and now and there was an incident and now and duckett has been dropped from today's game. —— ben duckett. let's get more and speak to our sports correspondent, andy swiss, who's in perth. hi andy, what more do we know? yes, mike, just when you thought england's is of an area problems we re england's is of an area problems were over, this comes along. ben duckett, as you say, is training in perth with the england lions squad, which is effectively england's second—tier squad. today he was due to pay —— play for england in their warmup game against australia's rickety 11. he is facing an ecb disciplinarian choir it over an incident in a bar in perth on thursday. —— supply mary panel. he was out with other players on the test squad. there is no details on the incident itself, but the police we re the incident itself, but the police were not involved, nor were any members of the public. but he is facing a disciplinarian process and has been suspended in the meantime. clearly this will raise more questions over the behaviour of england's players. staggeringly, this incident happened on the first night england's players were allowed to go out after the lifting of a midnight curfew. that curfew had originally been imposed following an incident involving jonny bairstow, the england wicket—keeper, in a bar in perth last month. of course, as well as that, there is the ongoing situation with ben stokes. you still waiting to find out if he will be charged over an incident outside a nightclub in bristol in september. frankly, this latest disciplinary distraction is the last thing england need right now. exactly, as they are trying to come back from 2-0 they are trying to come back from 2—0 down in the series. has a new cu rfew 2—0 down in the series. has a new curfew being imposed on the squad? we don't know. we are expecting to find out later from trevor bayliss, the england coach. he was pretty furious after the jonny the england coach. he was pretty furious after thejonny bairstow incident. he said some of the players needed to be much smarter. it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. the reaction just yet about whether that midnight curfew might even imposed following this latest incident. —— might be reimpose. —— reimposed. on the pitch, opener keatonjennings, has made a case for picking him next week, by scoring 80, against a cricket australia eleven. apart from that it's been a bit worrying for the tourists in this 2 day match, batting first and when rain stopped play they were 215—7. now, we hear that one seventh will be watching manchester tomorrow. one seventh of the world's population. it is an amazing stat, but i'm not convinced by it. before you said they would be watching, now you have said they will be keeping an eye on it? well, it is the same thing. i did some research. the world population is 7.5 early on. i said, maybe there are lots of fans in china. that is1.4 maybe there are lots of fans in china. that is 1.4 billion.” maybe there are lots of fans in china. that is 1.4 billion. i don't know if we are talking about the viewing population. the viewing population but i am passing the buck on this one. it is the number of people who are interested. look, it is going to be popular, to say the least. so all eyes on manchester and merseyside tomorrow, but this lunchtime, it's east against west london, as west ham host chelsea. the hammers are in the bottom three and looking for a first win under new manager david moyes. but despite their position the scot thinks he is starting to make his mark on his new squad. i don't want to get too carried away but the players have been very good. they have tried to take on board everything. they are doing their work. as i said from the start, they will have to do the work if they want to play. hopefully they are all doing that. the late drama in the championship last night. aidan flin flon say goal. a last—minute winner for bristol city against sheffield united. they could have lost their manager to rangers, but aberdeen repaid derek mcinnes for staying in charge with a 1—0 win at dundee. scott mckenna's goaljust after the break was enough to seal the three points, which moves aberdeen into second place in the scottish premiership — three points above rangers, before they play tomorrow. the premier league could be taking on, strictly come dancing and the x factor in a saturday evening battle for viewers. eight games will be played in a new 7:45 slot, under a new tv package, which will start in the 2019—20 season. broadcasters will be able to bid to show 200 games per season — that's more than half of all matches. what would you rather watch, the dancing, or the likes of chelsea in the premier league? just throwing out how to there. next to a big blow for wales's six nations campaign. their captain sam warburton has been ruled out of the tournament. the 29—year—old has had keen surgery on an existing injury and will be out for up to six months. ——knee surgery. glasgow are out of the european champions cup after a home defeat to montpelier. the french side opened the scoring with the try of the match from kelian galletier. glasgow did lead 17—5 at one stage, but ended up losing 29—22. its a bright outlook for ronnie o'sullivan whatever happens in the snooker today. the rocket will play stephen maguire in the semi—finals, after beating martin gould 6—3, while shaun murphy will play ryan day in the other semi. and whatever happens in o'sullivan's match, he feels he can't lose. it was win—win because i thought, if they get beaten, at least i get home to dinner. and if i win i have another day here. i have to have a win—win. at this stage of the game... there are quite a few places around here that will do dinner for you. yes, but i would like to see my missus. i decided a while ago, i like to do my own thing. whatever happens in the game is great, i pick and choose what i want to do. i think my happiness comes in doing other things away from snooker. in 8 weeks lizzie yarnold will try to become the first british athlete to retain a winter olympic title, but the season is not going to plan for the skeleton bob slider. yarnold won the gold in sochi 4 years ago, but yesterday falling snow hampered her, and she finished 13th place at the latest world cup event at wintersberg, in germany. "what can you do in a snow storm," she tweeted. jumping fences and riding through fire mean their skills are arguably even more extreme than the likes of ap mccoy and nick skelton. now the met‘s mounted police are gearing up to show off their stuff at the horse of the year show, which takes place this week in london. ijoined them in training to find out how these skills help them prepare for being on the beat in london. they are the heavyweights of the equestrian world, with some of the bravest riders. despite the size and the weight of these beasts, it is all about the most delicate position and accuracy, as theyjump through fire and even manage to remove some of their uniform — and the saddle, and stirrups. but this isn't just about showcasing their skills this week. the mounted police use this training to help them prepare for their main job, and whatever they might face on the streets of london. we are cops on horses, police officers on horses. these horses are all operational horses. they patrol the streets of london daily. this ride we are doing, what you see today, it's all about training and developing the officers, and developing the horses, so that we can take those skills out onto the street. in a public order situation, like a riot, they say that one mounted officer can do the job of ten on foot. i saw how crucial these training sessions are for when things don't go to plan. you have to be quite robust as a rider. you can have situations, not that many years ago, like tottenham, you have vehicles and buildings burning. a horse reacts adversely to that. so this sort of thing is great for their training. it's about trust and confidence. the first mounted police were around 150 years before the first pictures in the 19205, and over the following decades, they became famous for their musical rides. newsreel: this is a trial of precision and grace, where the policemen can show off their equestrian skills. since 2014 there has been an increase in the number of mounted police again, following a study by a university which showed that the value of the horses was icebreakers — notjust in public order situations but in community policing as well. you are six times more likely to interact and chat to a police officer if they are on a horse than if they are just on foot. of course, it's all to do with the horse. i think a personable horse helps a bit. you're much more approachable on a horse. i found the difference, initially, when ijoined the mounted branch, i couldn't believe how many people stopped and wanted to speak to you. if you go to an estate, you will get a crowd around you, just purely to pat the horse. before they know it, they're talking to a police officer. this is where it all begins. lots of the policemen who join the mounted force have not been on a horse before they start training. 16 weeks later, the trust between police officer and horse is so great that they will even run through walls together. there's only so much i can do on a horse. but this gives me a taste of what it is like. jumping the fences, taking off their jackets, and having the trust to power through the final wall. luckily, that idiot will not be out olympia performing this week. the horses will be, would be met police, and other highlights this week. here is stav with a look at this morning's weather. definitely chilly, and there is snow for many of us. good morning to you both. it will remain wintry and cold for the foreseeable future, with some significant snow into tomorrow. plenty of snow lying across parts of scotland, northern ireland, north—west england, wales, the west midlands. parts of shropshire and parts of south wales saw some real winter wonderland scenes. where there is lying snow there will be ice. watch out for that untreated roads and pavements. apart from a few showers across northern scotland, northern ireland, north—west england and north wales through the day, it will be a lovely day. gorgeous spells of sunshine around, widespread sunshine, and winds lighter from the far north—east, where it will be quite easy. heavy snows here. temperatures about one to six degrees in the south—west. a nice day if you wrap up south—west. a nice day if you wrap up and head out. tonight things will get interesting. temperatures falling away, you can see the blue colour is in this area of low pressure moving in. of heavy rain bumping into the cold air and turning into snow. a bit of uncertainty as to its north and south extent but in the heavy snow area, where we could see ten to 20 centimetres, there is likely to be significant disruption. that is parts of wales, west midlands and northern england. no surprise the met office have an amber be prepared warning for this. likely to be some disruption through sunday morning. if you are heading out, make sure it is an emergency. enjoy watching the snow if you enjoy that. the snow should peter out and turn back into rain, slightly milder air moving back into the system. fairly windy in southern parts of england. gale force or severe gale force winds through the afternoon. scotland and northern ireland will be wondering what all the fuss is about. cold, dry and sunny here. this storm is expected to batter parts of france as we had on towards monday, but its northern extent is likely to affect southern parts of the country again. northern areas seeing the best of the sunshine. a cold day, wet and windy in the south, and some of the rain turning into snow over the high ground. the rain will clear away through the course of the afternoon. behind that system, skies brightening up as we head into tuesday. the risk of ice first thing, but at least dry with lots of sunshine across the south. some pretty severe weather on the way. thank you very much. we will have the headlines in a moment. now it's time for newswatch, with samira ahmed. hello, and welcome to newswatch with me, samira ahmed. coming up: the news at ten can't tell the difference between three bollywood actors in reporting the death of film star shashi kapoor. and how the bbc is sending journalists into schools to tackle fake news. first, how the death of the renowned indian actor shashi kapoor was covered on the news at ten this week. the bbc chose to play only very brief footage as huw edwards announced the star had died aged 79. but neither of the actors shown work shashi kapoor. the veteran indian actor shashi kapoor has died in hospital in mumbai at the age of 79. from one of india's greatest acting families, he appeared in more than 150 films, including a dozen in english. he starred in some of the biggest hollywood blockbusters of the 19705 and 1980s. many viewers noticed and complained on social media and the programme's editor paul royal apologised on twitter shortly after. and on the following night's news at ten, huw edwards apologised over photographs of shashi kapoor. they confirmed that mistakes were due to human error. last night we showed the wrong images, which we apologised for. the actor appeared in more than 150 films, including a number of english—language productions. shashi kapoor won numerous acting prizes during his long career, as well as one of india's highest civilian award. well, the bbc said sorry. so was that good enough? many viewers got in touch to question how such a mistake could be made. nadia hussain e—mail to say: and art patel was not impressed either: a lot of people who watch bollywood movies and it's part of that cultural history, identity, would find this very upsetting. it's not very nice to show another actor who is also a very big part of many people's identity and culture to be in the opening clip, as opposed to the person who passed away, shashi kapoor. shashi kapoor is completely different, for the bbc not to do this distinction right from the off is very inconsiderate. the newspaper review on the andrew marr show got rather heated last sunday, leading some viewers to question whether andrew marr had control over the panel. ukip's former leader nigel farage, a former labour adviser and kate andrews from the institute of economic affairs were on the sofa. it now seems the phrase "take back control", take back control and give it to the irish, you know, it's such a distraction... well, that's why we're going to talk about... 0k, guys... brexit is failing because of the government... guys, guys... graham lee's e—mail to say: phili taylor commented: and monte hellman called in: andrew marr was unable to control them. as a licence payer, somebody who just wants information and to learn something from these people, this contributes nothing. now, the term fake news may have first been popularised by donald trump during his presidential election campaign, but it's become a major concern, notjust because politicians throw it atjournalism they don't like, but also because of the evidence of fake stories created and spread, especially through social media platforms, notably in the run—up to the us election. but how easy is it just got fake news? there has been rapid change in how young people consume news, and the bbc has started a scheme to help secondary school pupils identify it. the bbc‘s media editor spoke at six formers in kent. how do you consume news everyday? i'll be honest, it's mainly through snapchat. put your hand up if you're on snapchat. to gauge the news literacy, we showed the pupils an image that was shown thousands of times on social media. it depicts a muslim woman pictured after the westminster bridge terror attack. yeah, she seems like she's not caring. but this was fake news. the image was attached to a tweet from an account linked to russia, and our pupils did detect anti—muslim prejudice. i think if she was of a different race this tweet would never have been put out and it's really wrong that people feel the need to do that. from march, up to 1,000 schools will be offered mentoring in class, online or at events by bbc journalists, including from the likes of huw edwards and the bbc‘s economic editor kamal ahmed, and hejoins us now. welcome. have you ever been caught out by fake news? i don't think so, no. obviously we do our best to make sure we're not. i was once almost caught out. a mark carney twitter feed started, who's the governor of the bank of england, and i must admit, for a moment i thought, my goodness, the governor of the bank of england is going to start tweeting. that was the only time i thought to myself, check yourself, kamal! is that really believable? and i think when you're thinking about fake news, that is probably the first thing to do. is what you're seeing really believable? and as soon as you've checked, is mark carney going to be on twitter anywhere else, everyone was saying, well, of course, the governor of the bank of england couldn't do that. so i think it's thinking about the source of the story, does it look believable, is it being reported anywhere else? and i suppose the responsibility is on us as the bbc to help people navigate this new world of news that they live in. well, let's talk about that, because people might say, why does the bbc feel it needs to do anything about this? i think we do have a role, if the bbc‘s role, its mission, is to educate, inform and entertain, educate is part of what we do, and i think it's an important part of the conversation. and also i think, samira, for us, we need to listen as well. we need to listen to young people. amol rajan's piece there was very interesting, what people felt about some of the news information they were being given. so it's a learning exercise for us as well. let's look at a couple of the things you mentioned there. we saw amol going into schools, as you said, what actually are people like him and you doing when you do go into them? well, i'm going back to my old school in the new year in london. i think what i would love to do, and i think this is what the bbc is planning, is just go through some of those stories and talk to the young people, the sixth formers and others, about what they think about the news coverage and how it works. and do they think about, is it fake news? is a deliberately misleading piece of information? it's very clear that young audiences, particularly in their teens and early 20s, they don't consume traditional curated tv news bulletins like we all used to. do bbc editors understand their world enough? the bbc certainly does. i would not claim myself that we should say, we understand the world that young people live in. but certainly we have all sorts of content on facebook and on twitter, on instagram, we have a piece of our organisation called news labs, which looks at how news is shared and different ways on mobile. newsbeat and newsround, they are on lots of these social media outlets. in terms of who you send out to spread that message, if you don't mind me saying so, apart from tina hayley, who has worked on radio one, one might think you're not actually of that generation. you know, who would be the right people to be sending, and is it people like you? well, i think it's young people, but i think it's about showing that the bbc takes it seriously at whatever level in this organisation you happen to be and whatever age you are. i'm certainly no celebrity, and i wouldn't claim that i am, but i think i work at the front line for the bbc in economics, which lots of young people talk about and are very interested in — intergenerational unfairness, inequality, those type of issues are issues | cover. and i think if i can help people navigate that and also listen to that, i think that is of advantage, i hope, to them, and it certainly will be to us. kamal ahmed, thank you. the tone of brexit coverage is a regular issue with newswatch viewers. this week, breakfast presenter charlie stayt‘s interview with transport secretary chris grayling about brexit negotiations came in for criticism from several viewers who thought it was hostile. if...i'm not sure what your role was today in being sent out and doing media interviews, i know you are doing the rounds today, this is how this works, but was yourjob to reassure people that things are going well and everything's in hand, because i'm not sure that you have done that. 0k. myjob is to say to people, look, we are in the middle of a negotiation, it's a complex negotiation, negotiations have their ups and downs, we are confident that we will reach a sensible basis to move to the next stage of talks. surely charlie stayt does not expect the government to reveal their strategy on live tv for the world to see, and yet he continuously pressed mr grayling over and over again, becoming increasingly rude and offering his own sarcastic responses when he didn't get the answers he was looking for. i'm surprised that mr grayling did not storm of the set. i would like to think that bbc reporters can show some respect to their guests. unfortunately it is becoming clear that this is not the case. christine keeler, who was embroiled in the 1963 profumo scandal when she was a young woman, died this week aged 75. at the height of the cold war, the then teenager was the centre of the news media frenzy over her brief relationship with a government minister john profumo, which shut harold macmillan's government. jack wheeler tweeted his discomfort with the language used to describe her on news obituaries: and that's all from us. thank you for all your comments this week. if you would like to share your opinions on bbc news, current affairs, or even appear on the programme, you can call us on: ore—mail newswatch@bbc.co.uk. you can find us on twitter and have a look at our website. that's all from us. we'll be back next week. goodbye. hello. this is breakfast, with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. borisjohnson flies to iran to try to secure the release of a jailed british mother. the foreign secretary is due to arrive there in the next few hours and will raise "grave concerns" about nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe, who's spent the past 18 months behind bars. good morning. it's saturday 9th december. also this morning: a brexit breakthrough by the prime minister, but a long journey lies ahead. we'll get reaction to yesterday's deal and look at what next

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