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Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News 20171208



forces and palestinians as protests continue about donald trump's contentious recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital. and here, snow continues to fall in many parts of the uk, causing power cuts, school closures and travel disruption. good evening and welcome to bbc news. stage one is done, next stop — the beginning of talks about our future relationship with the eu, including trade. after through the night negotiations, a deal was struck first thing this morning between the uk and the eu on key areas including the irish border and the divorce bill, which downing street says will amount to between £35 billion and £39 billion. now, the uk can at last move on to the next stage of talks. but the head of the european commission sounded a warning, so much time has been devoted to the easier part of the negotiations, he said, now comes the hard part. our political editor laura kuenssberg has more. while most of us slept, when hardly a soul was stirring, the residents of downing street were up. late—night calls. then, at seven minutes past four, onto the plane. theresa may, travelling... while jean—claude juncker was pacing, waiting in so many ways, for the uk. and then, touchdown. ready? ready if you are. taking their places for the moment, after three days of cajoling, compromise and criticism. it was a good morning for theresa may. a deal to pave the way for brexit round two, the jargon she had longed to hear. sufficient progress has now been made on the terms of the divorce. this was a difficult negotiation for the european union, as well as for the united kingdom. after breakdown on monday, blocked by allies at home, a huge weight off the government's stressed shoulders. i very much welcome the prospect of moving ahead to the next phase, to talk about trade and security, and to discuss the positive and ambitious future relationship. are you going to be celebrating, mr barnier, cracking open the champagne? still working. still more work to do, no champagne. no celebrations for either side. no champagne. water. many compromises, and more to come. the agreement implies it will cost up to £39 billion to settle our accounts as we leave. there is no finalfigure, and it could be more, but could be more paid over many years. both sides say brits who live elsewhere in the eu, and european citizens who live here, will have their rights protected. and crucially, for tory backbenchers, the role of the european court will be limited. there is a promise there will be no hard border in ireland between north and south, a vow their rules and regulations will be aligned if there is no big trade deal. and a time—limited transition period as we leave. but what about the dup, who'd so embarrassed the prime minister on monday? she needs their votes in parliament, and this week they squeezed some concessions. but in the early hours, theresa may made the decision to crack on, even though they weren't quite sure. there are still matters there that we would have liked to have seen clarified. we ran out of time, essentially. we think that we needed to go back again and talk about those matters, but the prime minister has decided to go to brussels in relation to this text, and she says she has done that in the national interest. the leader of the opposition, speaking at the un today, was even less impressed. this could have been done some time ago. the referendum took place in 2016, we are now right at the end of 2017, this is the first time there has been any sign of any movement to go on to phase two. but tory relief washed over social media, the cabinet falling over themselves to praise their boss, and notable by their absence, most tory brexiteers. the ultimate arbiter, put that in your pipe and smoke it. the real criticism from this man. remember him? amazing, isn't it. the british prime ministerflies through the middle of the night to meet unelected bureaucrats who pat her on the head, they say you have met our demands, made sufficient progress and can move to the next stage. the whole thing is a humiliation. as one of the brokers in brussels was keen to point out, reaching the next deal to shake on will be harder still. let us remember, the most difficult challenge is still ahead. we all know that breaking up is hard. but breaking up and building a new relation is much harder. but round here, there is no jubilation, more like thank goodness, because these negotiations are intertwined with the prime minister's fate. the talks stumble, so does she. the talks muddle through, and so does she. had there not been this deal at dawn, there would have been serious rumblings about theresa may's future. with progress comes breathing space, but there is compromise, plenty of it. and with that comes winners and losers, and no real guarantees. getting this far and keeping the peace has strained this street already. the tory divisions have not disappeared. but agreeing anything has been an achievement. for tonight at least, a little goodwill. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, westminster. with me is oliver norgrove — a political commentator who worked for the vote leave campaign. good evening to you. what did you think of what we got, or what we seemed to get in the early hours of this morning? i think we have had to swallow a lot and make quite a number of probably, in hindsight, understandable concessions. i think that the irish border has been particularly tricky, and i am not surprised there hasn't been anything too concrete on that. today, we saw, probably, the final nail in the coffin of a hard brexit, because it is now clear to me that northern ireland is guiding brexit policy. my fear now is we will get stuck. we we re fear now is we will get stuck. we were told today, if we can't come up with the spokes solutions, we would have do maintain full alignment with the rules of both the customs union and single market. my fear is we may get stuck in the eea, the single market, without any say in the rules of it. i have for some time been campaigning to get us more say that a cleaner brexit. that is the other area where other nations outside the eu? there are three countries, norway, iceland and religions dine —— litten stone. the single market simultaneously gives them good training times —— lichtenstein. in lichtenstein, we have a bespoke settle m e nt lichtenstein, we have a bespoke settlement on immigration. i'm not arguing we can replicate it exactly. they have a quota system. with norway, they have agreements on mutual customs cooperation. a frictionless border with sweden, so this is the best week for oscar. and you also have to obey rules, one reason why people voted to leave, because they don't want to have to bay european union rules. lots of them on to european union rules. —— bay. a number of devices capture this. article 2.4 on the technical barriers to trade, it tells us that members of the international regulatory forums, the main regulators in europe, where technical standards are made, members automatically adopt them. increasingly, the regulatory picture, not completely, but increasingly, the regulatory picture is top—down. it is made at global level, the rules are passed down to brussels. we have had a shotgun to get this far. and we are not herby far. we have been interviewing people tonight about this, trade, business, and that has got to come next. what do the signals that tell us? the phase two? there are a number of bonds ahead. it is going to become placated. vat alone will be difficult. agricultural tariffs will be difficult. i don't think, we don't get a trade deal in the article 50 period. this needs to be communicated to the public. we get a withdrawal agreement at the end of the article 50 period. we don't get a trade deal. that will heighten uncertainty as well. but i think there are so many issues to worry about in phase two. mostly, i am broadly happy with today, but we can't get ahead of ourselves. this isa can't get ahead of ourselves. this is a long journey to go. oliver norgrove, thank you for coming in. businesses across the uk have been reacting to today's announcement. let's talk now tojenny brown, founder of pampeano, a company that makes leather goods and does a lot of business in europe. good evening to you, did i get the pool stage and rod ? good evening to you, did i get the pool stage and rod? nearly, it is pampeano. it sounds european. latin american, but we sell a lot to europe. i'm glad we got that sorted out. what did you think of what was agreed all appeared to be agreed in the early hours of this morning? an overwhelming sense of relief, a key issue for us that i was worried for brexit was the effect on the currency, which really played out, and that has really affected our business this year. we have topline growth of over 20%, and yet, we see no bottom—line growth, because it is swallowed up by the loss on the currency. explain to people what you mean by that. sales are doing well but you are not making profits at the end of the day. we are having to pay so much to buy raw materials in dollars, whereas before, there was a prize, but suddenly, the prize has gone up prize, but suddenly, the prize has gone up so prize, but suddenly, the prize has gone up so much. we have passed some of that on to customers, but we can't pass it all on. as a result, we have had no growth in profit. what do you think, we have a deal done over important issues, although the details are still fuzzy, let's be polite, do you think this all goes well or badly for the very detailed trade talks, business talks that had to follow? on absolute detail, it is impossible to say at this point. overall, i get a good sense that we are starting to see positivity about what we can do with europe. the pound has strengthened on the back of the news, even on monday, it bounced up again. i really see us recovering some of the lost ground. i see us being able to move ahead with our business to business relationships in europe, the retailers there will want to ta ke the retailers there will want to take on our brand in the likely knowledge they will trade with us easily in future. what about the status of european union citizens in the future? this is also really good news. we have european people within ourteam. a key news. we have european people within our team. a key concern would be what happens to them. will they stay working with us within the uk, will they return to europe and still work with us? or will they not be able to? there is huge uncertainty, but it looks much more positive after today buzz announcement.” it looks much more positive after today buzz announcement. i am grateful for you to talk to us. thank you very much indeed. thank you. and we'll find out how this story, and many others, are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:40. this evening in the papers, our guestsjoining me tonight are helen brand, chief executive of the association of chartered certified accountants and sebastian payne, political correspondent at the financial times. o nto onto other news now. there have been clashes between israeli forces and palestinians protesting at donald trump's decision to recognise jerusalem as israel's capital. one person has died, over 200 have been injured. there have also been demonstrations and across the arab world. our middle east editorjeremy bowen reports from jerusalem. the biggest protests were in gaza. plenty of people had warned that us recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital would lead to bloodshed. the first person to die was a 30—year—old palestinian. he was shot by the israeli army during clashes on gaza's border. others were wounded. there were clashes around towns on the west bank, too. the palestinians want gaza and the west bank to be their future state, with a capital in eastjerusalem. this is our land. all palestine is our land. mr trump, you are wrong. israelis, who want all ofjerusalem, are delighted by president trump's recognition of their capital. he said, we're steadfast here, eternally, since ancient times. this city was given tojews thousands of years ago and the us has recognised that. but the golden dome behind him is part of the third holiest place in the world for muslims, and a few hundred yards away, several thousand palestinians were going home after the noon prayer. the reality of this city is that many palestinians live here. life for them can be hard. this home has been demolished twice this year by order of the israeli authorities. like many palestinians, he built without a permit. israel gives palestinians very few construction permits, while building thousands of homes forjews. i born in this land, and my father and my grandfather. i will die in this place. palestinian areas of jerusalem were quieter after friday prayers than many expected. whenever a crowd formed, mostly of onlookers, the police broke it up. mr trump's declaration is a big challenge for the palestinian national movement and will turn into a big defeat for it as well if the palestinians are not able to organise a coherent challenge to what has happened, and to build on all the international criticism there has been. israel feels on the up. it has been given american presidential recognition in this city, without mention of occupation, and without, so far, a single concession in return. jeremy bowen, bbc news, jerusalem. the headlines on bbc news: the brexit negotiations look set to move onto the next stage after both sides reached a deal on the terms of the uk's departure. violence has flared between israeli forces and palestinians protesting at president trump's recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital. snow is continuing to fall in many parts of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, causing power cuts, school closures and travel disruption. time to take a look at the sports news. good evening, gavin. we start with rugby union, because the british and irish lions captain sam warburton will miss out on playing for wales in next year's six nations. he has had surgery on a knee injury. wales international was already out of action because of a neck injury and says he has made a decision with the welsh rugby union and his club side cardiff blues to ta ke and his club side cardiff blues to take a proactive approach, so he is fully fit when returning to action. it is expected that he will take 4—6 months to recover. scotla nd months to recover. scotland have a proper thing to return from a fractured arm which happened in the match with samoa last month. he is not expected to play for 12 months, but could make the latter part of the competition. in tonight's action in the european champions cup, glasgow are 10—5 up against montpellier. both sides are yet to win in pool three of the competition, despite strong records in the mystical british and. vern cotter is in charge of montpellier tonight. the premier league could go head—to—head with the likes of strictly come dancing and x factor, fighting for prime—time viewers on saturday evening. matches at 7:45pm will be part of a new broadcast package from the 2019th season. it is one of a number of new options, including the possibility of rights going to on demand and digital providers. the big story in the scottish premiership this week has been the tug—of—war between aberdeen and rangers for manager derek mcinnes. it ended with him staying at aberdeen. he is in charge for the game at dundee tonight, having told the club's fans, he wasn't there to walk away tojoin the club's fans, he wasn't there to walk away to join rangers. it is 0—0 with half an hour played. moeen ali says the team still believes they can turn the ashes series around, despite trailing 2—0 to australia. he will captain an england side in perth, not bowling to allow a cut on his finger to heal, but will recover in time for the third test in perth, which sta rts the third test in perth, which starts on thursday. because i am a finger spinner, it is the one thing that i really need. it needs to be 100%. obviously, i did it in the first innings of the first game, and since then i have been taking it easy. it has been difficult to bowl and stuff, but the last game was much better. ijust didn't bowl as well. hopefully, another 5—6 days of it no bowling, it will be all right. five—time snooker champion ronnie o'sullivan is through to the semifinals at the uk championship in york. he is one of only two seeds left in the competition. he won 6—3 against martin gould after racing to against martin gould after racing to a 5—0 lead. o'sullivan is the clear favourite with the bookies to claim a sixth uk title. o'sullivan plays stephen mcguire for a place in the final tomorrow. the 2004 champion reached the semifinals after beating joe perry 6—3. the other two quarterfinals will be decided tonight. these are life pictures at the moment, no action as we speak, but the only other seeded player left in the tournament, shaun murphy, he is 3—1 ahead against mark king. ryan day is 2—1 up against markjoyce. both king. ryan day is 2—1 up against mark joyce. both matches king. ryan day is 2—1 up against markjoyce. both matches available on the bbc red button and bt —— bt sport website. charley hull is in contention after round three of golf‘s dubai classic. she finished on nine under par, three shots off the lead going into tomorrow's final run. laura davies florentino parker are a shot further back. that is all the sports are now. we are back in the next hour. see you then. a section of the m5 remains closed in both directions, with some passengers saying they have been in their vehicles for more than four hours. the motorway‘s closure was sparked by an incident betweenjunctions 28 and 29 for exeter and cullompton. the highways agency is asking drivers to avoid the area or use diversionary routes. huge conjecture people are getting home on a friday night, and people trying to get away from the weekend, people are advising people to avoid the m5 and use alternative routes, there are also both versions in place. the alternative routes are extremely congested as people try to avoid the m5. we have had lots of callers to bbc radio 2 evan that stayed on air later so that drivers can be kept up—to—date with the ongoing situation. many drivers are calling in saying they are cold and hungry. the police had tweeted to say they are working towards a safe resolution. we don't know yet when the road will reopen. stationary traffic is being turned back to dance and 29. some people have tweeted, some in good spirits, asking about card games, but some people fed up. one person said they we re people fed up. one person said they were stuck in traffic for four hours, not enough fuel to keep the car running and it is three degrees outside. also, the police have tweeted tonight i'm thanking drivers for patients, and they hope to come toa for patients, and they hope to come to a safe resolution as soon as possible. the police incident you refer to, any more details about that? we don't at the moment. we know the emergency services are at junction 28, which is cullompton. severe congestion around the area to tiverton, tiverton, an otten, cullompton, exeter, all congested. those people stuck on the m5 are stuck until they are allowed to get. thank very much indeed. on the line is tally mairs — who has been stuck on the m5 betweenjunction 29 and 28 for over four hours. good evening to you. i don't suppose it isa good evening to you. i don't suppose it is a good evening for you. this must be a trial. unfortunately, it has not been an easyjourney home from work. can you tell me where you we re from work. can you tell me where you were going and where you got stuck and what the traffic is like?” were going and where you got stuck and what the traffic is like? i was travelling between exeter and taunton, on my way home from work, my usual journey, taunton, on my way home from work, my usualjourney, usually takes me about 40 minutes. i got stuck shortly before... sorry, i am pulling over at a junction. the services were four miles away, and traffic came to a grinding halt and i couldn't move anywhere. i looked on twitter to see what was happening. it is very, very cold, i think, in most places to, are you cold? yes. i didn't want to run the car because i was concerned about the battery. i knew the electrics would still use the battery. you don't want another problem after being stuck forfour don't want another problem after being stuck for four hours. three degrees tonight, so very cold. you don't have children in the car, do you? know, thankfully. they wouldn't have appreciated it. i'm sure. there was talk of a supermarket lorry somewhere near was talk of a supermarket lorry somewhere near you , was talk of a supermarket lorry somewhere near you, is that right? there was a supermarket lorry, a couple of cars ahead of me will stop they win the slow lane, i was in the fast lane, but i was told that they wouldn't be able to open the lorry. they couldn't give you any food or drink to help you? is there any sign of traffic now moving? are the police able to turn traffic round or open the road? yes. i am lucky, i have got off at an emergency access point, and nowi have got off at an emergency access point, and now i am just struggling with traffic through cullompton, and heading northwards to cullompton. i suspect it will be slow—moving for those trying to get further up the access point. i hope you get to the end of yourjourney access point. i hope you get to the end of your journey soon. access point. i hope you get to the end of yourjourney soon. we are grateful to you forjoining us. at least 14 united nations peacekeepers have been killed and more than 50 injured after being attacked by armed militia in eastern congo. the un has been hearing details of the attack in which six congolese soldiers were also killed. the un has had a peacekeeping role there for more than a decade. here, a teenager, who "starved to death" weeks after leaving home for university, was failed by every nhs organisation that should have cared for her, according to the health service ombudsman. he said the death of 18—year—old averil hart, who had a history of anorexia, could and should have been prevented. four separate nhs hospitals and trusts in norfolk and cambridgeshire have apologised. snow and wintry weather have caused disruption across many parts of the uk,— with power cuts, school closures and icy conditions on the roads. the met office says snow showers have been affecting parts of scotland, northern ireland and northern england — and it's warning of more snow and ice to come this weekend. judith moritz reports. shropshire saw snow from early on. the roads were already treacherous before morning rush hour, and those sledges were an option for some. few commuters went anywhere quickly. the police warned of numerous crashes and gridlocked roads, and it was the same story on the isle of man, the whole island succumbed to the snow. all of its schools closed, a result of traffic difficulties and safety concerns. flights were delayed and medical appointments cancelled. in wales, there have been problems all day. this view of the a5 near wrexham was filmed by the passenger in one car. drivers were warned to be careful. other roads were closed after multiple accidents. this bus in denbighshire struggled to get up the hill and eventually gave up, even if its name had seemed apt for the freezing weather conditions. it has meant with their lessons cancelled, many children in wales are having a long weekend. this school in flintshire took an early decision to close this morning, others sent pupils home during the course of the day. in total, nearly 200 schools across wales shut because of the snow. in scotland, all schools in orkney and shetland are closed and dozens shut as well in aberdeenshire and the highlands. hundreds of homes were without power. in northern ireland, this school stayed open, but there was travel disruption elsewhere, and there is more to come across the uk, with heavy skies promising more snow throughout the weekend. judith moritz, bbc news, flintshire. talking of snow, let's get the details of the weatherhead. tomasz schafernaker is details of the weatherhead. tomasz schaferna ker is here. the threat of snow‘s going to continue over the next couple of days, quite a significant threat by the time we get to sunday morning for some parts of the country. in the short—term, snow showers continuing over parts of wales, the midlands, the north—east of england, northern ireland and scotland. and it's going to be a cold night, there will be ice around in northern and western areas. on saturday, fewer snow showers, but some places that haven't seen snow yet could get them, for example, around liverpool, manchester, possibly in to, say, leeds and sheffield, also parts of northern scotland continue with snow showers. but many of us on saturday, a cold, sunny day. then the problem happens saturday night into sunday, a lot of cold air. look at the blue, that is frost. a new weather front, a fresh weather front comes off the atlantic, and watch what happens, rain turns to snow, then from wales, northern ireland, into the midlands, this could be fairly significant as we go through sunday morning. this is bbc news — our latest headlines. the brexit negotiations look set to move onto the next stage after both sides reached a deal on the terms of the uk's departure. getting to this point has required give and take on both sides and i believe thejoint report that is being published is in the best interests of the whole of the uk. the prime minister says there'll be no hard border with ireland — and it's thought britain's divorce bill will be between 35 and £40 billion. violence has flared between israeli forces and palestinians protesting at president trump's recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital. snow is continuing to fall in many parts of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, causing power cuts, school closures and travel disruption. more on the brexit phase one deal now. so what exactly was agreed in the small hours this morning between the uk and the eu — and what does it mean? chris morris from the bbc‘s reality check team takes a closer look. a breakthrough in the brexit negotiations for sure, but it's worth emphasising that this is only an agreement that sufficient progress has been made on issues relating to the uk's withdrawal. it locks in the progress made so far, but at the same time emphasises that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. and the toughest talks are still to come. this is not the end, but it is the end of the beginning. and we will remain fully engaged and vigilant throughout phase two, the drafting and ratification of the new treaties that will be required between the eu and the uk, and their implementation. so how has the benchmark of sufficient progress been reached? well, on the irish border, the hope is that a future free trade agreement will mean many of the concerns about a hard border simply melt away. but as a backstop, if all else fails, the uk has promised to maintain full alignment with eu single market and customs rules that govern trade across the border. exactly how that will be done isn't entirely clear, but you certainly can't have partial membership of the single market and the customs union. on citizens' rights, it's been agreed that the cut—off date for an agreement on the rights of eu citizens in the uk, and uk citizens elsewhere in the eu, will be the day brexit actually happens. in other words, some people yet to arrive could still qualify. there will also be a potential role for the european court ofjustice, directly for eight years and indirectly thereafter. the number of legal cases it's likely to cover is very small, but some brexiteers won't be entirely happy. nor are some campaigners for citizens' rights, because many details have yet to be resolved. and then there's the financial settlement, the divorce bill. a method for calculating it has been agreed. it will be paid in euros. but technical negotiations will continue on various aspects, including when and how the money gets paid. how much is the final amount likely to be? we'll probably never know for sure, but uk sources say the equivalent of up to £40 billion. while some eu sources still think it will be higher. and this is only phase one. formal talks about the outlines of a future relationship on trade, security and so on haven't yet started. the next priority will be to agree upon the terms of a transition period for about two years after brexit. the eu says it means the uk staying in the single market and the customs union. the government says that's not how it understands it at all. it is very clear that more challenging negotiation lies ahead. chris morris, bbc news. i'm joint from newcastle by tanya goodman, a professor at northumbria university and eu citizen living in the uk. also joined by jane golding, chair of british in europe, the largest coalition group of british citizens living and working in europe, who joins us from berlin. ifi if i can first speak to tanja in newcastle, what did you think of the deal, such as we know about it agreed in the early hours of the morning? i'm not sure we can describe it as ideal, a deal to me suggests problems are resolved and there is an agreement i can take certainty from. it's not how i see what we learned today. our lives will continue to be in limbojust what we learned today. our lives will continue to be in limbo just as much today as they were yesterday. some things have been agreed. one or two things you can say, well, that's an advance. perhaps you don't think it's an advance. it's fair to say there are some positives to take away from the report we've had today, for example around health care. it throws up significant problems, particularly among the european court of justice problems, particularly among the european court ofjustice and what it means in terms of a limited time period for the protection of rights. i'm concerned about that. there was no certainty moving forward as far as i'm concerned. somebody in your position, in newcastle upon tyne, presumably settled here for the moment, doing a job you enjoy, one hopes. do you think you have a secure future in britain now? no. it's a very simple straightforward answer. why would i think that? i gotan e—mail answer. why would i think that? i got an e—mail today from the home office that told me i would have, broadly, the same rights as now. i don't want broadly the same rights. this is the story of millions of people, not just this is the story of millions of people, notjust me, it goes for all of us. that was the actual wording, was it, broadly? yes. you don't know what that means? i don't, we came here in good faith to the uk and i would have expected the good faith to be honoured by the uk because we contribute every day, millions of others. broadly the same rights is not honouring the good faith we came with. what about people who still wa nt to with. what about people who still want to come to this country over the next couple of years? they'll be allowed to, as i understand it. beyond that, if we try to look much further beyond it, took ten years, do you think this country, immigration, movement into this country from europe, will more or less have stopped do you think?” mean migration never stops, as a migration historian i know that much. there is always movement of people. sorry i keep having to put this back in. but a hand by your ear if you need to. i might do that. i think there will be movement, undoubtedly. let's not forget we're not talking about just undoubtedly. let's not forget we're not talking aboutjust migration movements here, we're talking about reciprocal rights. that's also a concern british in europe would have as well. that's why we're shoulder to shoulder. it applies to all of us in the same way. this is not a matter of one directional migration, it's a question of reciprocal rights being taken away. thank you very much indeed. jane golding, chair of british in europe, you are in berlin. what did you think of what you heard in the early hours this morning? i'd probably agree with a lot of what tanja has just said. in our view it doesn't fix the uncertainty or guarantee all of our rights, there are still fundamental issues. there seems to be a consensus that would we —— we would be able to carry on our lives as we do now. and that the deal made in the early hours of this morning, in our view, doesn't deliver that. fundamental issues are still open. what are the main issues you see? the first and most fundamental for us the first and most fundamental for us is free movement. at the moment we can live and work across the whole eu. the deal done this morning would guarantee our rights for british in europe. just in the country where we live now. the country where we live now. the country we are resident in now. the vast majority of us are working age or younger. around 80% of us are. many of our members work across borders, even if you live in one country, you're offering services or working in other countries. if i ta ke working in other countries. if i take the example of one of our members, sarah, a caterer. her livelihood involves working across five different countries. that is key to her livelihood. you have concern about people who run businesses, it's notjust the stages of the individual, but the status of their company. well yes, that's right. currently we have the right to establish and run businesses in member states where we are living. that would continue to be guaranteed in the country of residence. it would be more difficult to operate across the eu, if you don't have rights of free movement and you can't move yourself as a person, as an individual, to work in other countries other than that in which you are a resident. ifi could countries other than that in which you are a resident. if i could go back quickly to tanja, to ask this question. it's taken a struggle to get where we are now. do you think it's possible that this very important matter of individuals rights will be buried somehow under all the other things still to be agreed? in my view it's already been buried, we already collateral damage, that's how i see it. today has proved that. if you leave people in limbo for over 500 days, it sends a very clear message to those people. the question is how many will take that forward into actual action. we've already seen lots of people leave. i think this isn't something for the future, it's already happened. jane golding, do you know if people are doing the reverse , you know if people are doing the reverse, coming away from the mainland of europe, heading back to the uk, much of that going on?” think it's probably something people are starving to think about, they've beenin are starving to think about, they've been in limbo all this time and can't take decisions. it'll be something some of the older members, retired members of our groups, will have to consider, yes, indeed. thank you both very much indeed for joining us. thank you. a state of emergency has been declared in california, in response to wildfires that have raged for five days and destroyed hundreds of buildings and homes. over five thousand firefighters have been battling the blazes — which stretch from los angeles up to santa barbara county. almost 200,000 people have been forced to flee with homes. for california, an epic battle continues. they've been fighting this blaze in the mountains north of los angeles all week, and still it devours forest and brush, and has destroyed more than 430 buildings. yet again tonight, this blaze is burning with an intense ferocity, and that means a battle, because there is property down here, very close to the fire, and these firefighters have been working very, very hard for the past few days. they are exhausted, but they are back here again now to try and stop this fire from burning these properties. the fire is now churning towards the pacific ocean, where communities as far north as santa barbara are preparing for evacuations. to the south, a new blaze exploded fast in san diego county, blowing up gas tanks under homes and forcing pupils to flee from their schools. for those who have not been currently impacted by the fire, they need to prepare as if they are going to be impacted by the fire. where are they going to go? what are their escape routes? what is their communication with theirfamily? what are they going to do with their pets? do they have their vehicles loaded to go? often, we don't ask people to think about these things continuously, but tonight is one of those nights, today is one of these fires that people need to be ready. in the exclusive los angeles suburb of bel—air, the situation has improved. a handful of homes were destroyed, but many more were saved. the musician lionel ritchie and the socialite paris hilton were among those forced to flee their mansions. every firefighting aircraft in the united states has been summoned to california, and they are making a big difference. with resources stretched to the limit, firefighters from neighbouring states have arrived in california to help. they'll be needed. the extreme weather is forecast to continue into the weekend. james cook, bbc news, california. if you've ever wanted to own a rodin or a classical greek statue — but have only pennies to spare — now‘s your chance. a group of the world's leading museums havejust signed up to a new agreement to scan and share their works of art. which means that if you like a work in a museum — you'll be able to print off your own 3d version at home. our arts correspondent david sillito has been looking at how it's done. you must be john. nice to meet you. i have got to ask you first come it you have brought the cameras? yes, i have. is this legal? it is, don't worry! his name isjonathan beck and he is from a group called scan the world. we are the v&a. i'm sneaking in to scan this bust. this felt a bit like theft. he took a few photos from different angles, uploaded them and within seconds, a 3—d printer across town had set to work making a copy of the sculpture. these printers now can cost as little as £99, so the v&a, along with the louvre, the hermitage and the smithsonian have published a new convention, setting out plans to allow anyone to copy and share their artworks. they are even doing their own scans now. this scanning and sharing, what is in it for you? what is interesting is the more content we put online, on the web, the more people who come through our doors here at the v&a. they want the original? i think there's something about the human condition, that despite seeing it on the 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forces and palestinians as protests continue about donald trump's contentious recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital. and here, snow continues to fall in many parts of the uk, causing power cuts, school closures and travel disruption. good evening and welcome to bbc news. stage one is done, next stop — the beginning of talks about our future relationship with the eu, including trade. after through the night negotiations, a deal was struck first thing this morning between the uk and the eu on key areas including the irish border and the divorce bill, which downing street says will amount to between £35 billion and £39 billion. now, the uk can at last move on to the next stage of talks. but the head of the european commission sounded a warning, so much time has been devoted to the easier part of the negotiations, he said, now comes the hard part. our political editor laura kuenssberg has more. while most of us slept, when hardly a soul was stirring, the residents of downing street were up. late—night calls. then, at seven minutes past four, onto the plane. theresa may, travelling... while jean—claude juncker was pacing, waiting in so many ways, for the uk. and then, touchdown. ready? ready if you are. taking their places for the moment, after three days of cajoling, compromise and criticism. it was a good morning for theresa may. a deal to pave the way for brexit round two, the jargon she had longed to hear. sufficient progress has now been made on the terms of the divorce. this was a difficult negotiation for the european union, as well as for the united kingdom. after breakdown on monday, blocked by allies at home, a huge weight off the government's stressed shoulders. i very much welcome the prospect of moving ahead to the next phase, to talk about trade and security, and to discuss the positive and ambitious future relationship. are you going to be celebrating, mr barnier, cracking open the champagne? still working. still more work to do, no champagne. no celebrations for either side. no champagne. water. many compromises, and more to come. the agreement implies it will cost up to £39 billion to settle our accounts as we leave. there is no finalfigure, and it could be more, but could be more paid over many years. both sides say brits who live elsewhere in the eu, and european citizens who live here, will have their rights protected. and crucially, for tory backbenchers, the role of the european court will be limited. there is a promise there will be no hard border in ireland between north and south, a vow their rules and regulations will be aligned if there is no big trade deal. and a time—limited transition period as we leave. but what about the dup, who'd so embarrassed the prime minister on monday? she needs their votes in parliament, and this week they squeezed some concessions. but in the early hours, theresa may made the decision to crack on, even though they weren't quite sure. there are still matters there that we would have liked to have seen clarified. we ran out of time, essentially. we think that we needed to go back again and talk about those matters, but the prime minister has decided to go to brussels in relation to this text, and she says she has done that in the national interest. the leader of the opposition, speaking at the un today, was even less impressed. this could have been done some time ago. the referendum took place in 2016, we are now right at the end of 2017, this is the first time there has been any sign of any movement to go on to phase two. but tory relief washed over social media, the cabinet falling over themselves to praise their boss, and notable by their absence, most tory brexiteers. the ultimate arbiter, put that in your pipe and smoke it. the real criticism from this man. remember him? amazing, isn't it. the british prime ministerflies through the middle of the night to meet unelected bureaucrats who pat her on the head, they say you have met our demands, made sufficient progress and can move to the next stage. the whole thing is a humiliation. as one of the brokers in brussels was keen to point out, reaching the next deal to shake on will be harder still. let us remember, the most difficult challenge is still ahead. we all know that breaking up is hard. but breaking up and building a new relation is much harder. but round here, there is no jubilation, more like thank goodness, because these negotiations are intertwined with the prime minister's fate. the talks stumble, so does she. the talks muddle through, and so does she. had there not been this deal at dawn, there would have been serious rumblings about theresa may's future. with progress comes breathing space, but there is compromise, plenty of it. and with that comes winners and losers, and no real guarantees. getting this far and keeping the peace has strained this street already. the tory divisions have not disappeared. but agreeing anything has been an achievement. for tonight at least, a little goodwill. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, westminster. with me is oliver norgrove — a political commentator who worked for the vote leave campaign. good evening to you. what did you think of what we got, or what we seemed to get in the early hours of this morning? i think we have had to swallow a lot and make quite a number of probably, in hindsight, understandable concessions. i think that the irish border has been particularly tricky, and i am not surprised there hasn't been anything too concrete on that. today, we saw, probably, the final nail in the coffin of a hard brexit, because it is now clear to me that northern ireland is guiding brexit policy. my fear now is we will get stuck. we we re fear now is we will get stuck. we were told today, if we can't come up with the spokes solutions, we would have do maintain full alignment with the rules of both the customs union and single market. my fear is we may get stuck in the eea, the single market, without any say in the rules of it. i have for some time been campaigning to get us more say that a cleaner brexit. that is the other area where other nations outside the eu? there are three countries, norway, iceland and religions dine —— litten stone. the single market simultaneously gives them good training times —— lichtenstein. in lichtenstein, we have a bespoke settle m e nt lichtenstein, we have a bespoke settlement on immigration. i'm not arguing we can replicate it exactly. they have a quota system. with norway, they have agreements on mutual customs cooperation. a frictionless border with sweden, so this is the best week for oscar. and you also have to obey rules, one reason why people voted to leave, because they don't want to have to bay european union rules. lots of them on to european union rules. —— bay. a number of devices capture this. article 2.4 on the technical barriers to trade, it tells us that members of the international regulatory forums, the main regulators in europe, where technical standards are made, members automatically adopt them. increasingly, the regulatory picture, not completely, but increasingly, the regulatory picture is top—down. it is made at global level, the rules are passed down to brussels. we have had a shotgun to get this far. and we are not herby far. we have been interviewing people tonight about this, trade, business, and that has got to come next. what do the signals that tell us? the phase two? there are a number of bonds ahead. it is going to become placated. vat alone will be difficult. agricultural tariffs will be difficult. i don't think, we don't get a trade deal in the article 50 period. this needs to be communicated to the public. we get a withdrawal agreement at the end of the article 50 period. we don't get a trade deal. that will heighten uncertainty as well. but i think there are so many issues to worry about in phase two. mostly, i am broadly happy with today, but we can't get ahead of ourselves. this isa can't get ahead of ourselves. this is a long journey to go. oliver norgrove, thank you for coming in. businesses across the uk have been reacting to today's announcement. let's talk now tojenny brown, founder of pampeano, a company that makes leather goods and does a lot of business in europe. good evening to you, did i get the pool stage and rod ? good evening to you, did i get the pool stage and rod? nearly, it is pampeano. it sounds european. latin american, but we sell a lot to europe. i'm glad we got that sorted out. what did you think of what was agreed all appeared to be agreed in the early hours of this morning? an overwhelming sense of relief, a key issue for us that i was worried for brexit was the effect on the currency, which really played out, and that has really affected our business this year. we have topline growth of over 20%, and yet, we see no bottom—line growth, because it is swallowed up by the loss on the currency. explain to people what you mean by that. sales are doing well but you are not making profits at the end of the day. we are having to pay so much to buy raw materials in dollars, whereas before, there was a prize, but suddenly, the prize has gone up prize, but suddenly, the prize has gone up so prize, but suddenly, the prize has gone up so much. we have passed some of that on to customers, but we can't pass it all on. as a result, we have had no growth in profit. what do you think, we have a deal done over important issues, although the details are still fuzzy, let's be polite, do you think this all goes well or badly for the very detailed trade talks, business talks that had to follow? on absolute detail, it is impossible to say at this point. overall, i get a good sense that we are starting to see positivity about what we can do with europe. the pound has strengthened on the back of the news, even on monday, it bounced up again. i really see us recovering some of the lost ground. i see us being able to move ahead with our business to business relationships in europe, the retailers there will want to ta ke the retailers there will want to take on our brand in the likely knowledge they will trade with us easily in future. what about the status of european union citizens in the future? this is also really good news. we have european people within ourteam. a key news. we have european people within our team. a key concern would be what happens to them. will they stay working with us within the uk, will they return to europe and still work with us? or will they not be able to? there is huge uncertainty, but it looks much more positive after today buzz announcement.” it looks much more positive after today buzz announcement. i am grateful for you to talk to us. thank you very much indeed. thank you. and we'll find out how this story, and many others, are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:40. this evening in the papers, our guestsjoining me tonight are helen brand, chief executive of the association of chartered certified accountants and sebastian payne, political correspondent at the financial times. o nto onto other news now. there have been clashes between israeli forces and palestinians protesting at donald trump's decision to recognise jerusalem as israel's capital. one person has died, over 200 have been injured. there have also been demonstrations and across the arab world. our middle east editorjeremy bowen reports from jerusalem. the biggest protests were in gaza. plenty of people had warned that us recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital would lead to bloodshed. the first person to die was a 30—year—old palestinian. he was shot by the israeli army during clashes on gaza's border. others were wounded. there were clashes around towns on the west bank, too. the palestinians want gaza and the west bank to be their future state, with a capital in eastjerusalem. this is our land. all palestine is our land. mr trump, you are wrong. israelis, who want all ofjerusalem, are delighted by president trump's recognition of their capital. he said, we're steadfast here, eternally, since ancient times. this city was given tojews thousands of years ago and the us has recognised that. but the golden dome behind him is part of the third holiest place in the world for muslims, and a few hundred yards away, several thousand palestinians were going home after the noon prayer. the reality of this city is that many palestinians live here. life for them can be hard. this home has been demolished twice this year by order of the israeli authorities. like many palestinians, he built without a permit. israel gives palestinians very few construction permits, while building thousands of homes forjews. i born in this land, and my father and my grandfather. i will die in this place. palestinian areas of jerusalem were quieter after friday prayers than many expected. whenever a crowd formed, mostly of onlookers, the police broke it up. mr trump's declaration is a big challenge for the palestinian national movement and will turn into a big defeat for it as well if the palestinians are not able to organise a coherent challenge to what has happened, and to build on all the international criticism there has been. israel feels on the up. it has been given american presidential recognition in this city, without mention of occupation, and without, so far, a single concession in return. jeremy bowen, bbc news, jerusalem. the headlines on bbc news: the brexit negotiations look set to move onto the next stage after both sides reached a deal on the terms of the uk's departure. violence has flared between israeli forces and palestinians protesting at president trump's recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital. snow is continuing to fall in many parts of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, causing power cuts, school closures and travel disruption. time to take a look at the sports news. good evening, gavin. we start with rugby union, because the british and irish lions captain sam warburton will miss out on playing for wales in next year's six nations. he has had surgery on a knee injury. wales international was already out of action because of a neck injury and says he has made a decision with the welsh rugby union and his club side cardiff blues to ta ke and his club side cardiff blues to take a proactive approach, so he is fully fit when returning to action. it is expected that he will take 4—6 months to recover. scotla nd months to recover. scotland have a proper thing to return from a fractured arm which happened in the match with samoa last month. he is not expected to play for 12 months, but could make the latter part of the competition. in tonight's action in the european champions cup, glasgow are 10—5 up against montpellier. both sides are yet to win in pool three of the competition, despite strong records in the mystical british and. vern cotter is in charge of montpellier tonight. the premier league could go head—to—head with the likes of strictly come dancing and x factor, fighting for prime—time viewers on saturday evening. matches at 7:45pm will be part of a new broadcast package from the 2019th season. it is one of a number of new options, including the possibility of rights going to on demand and digital providers. the big story in the scottish premiership this week has been the tug—of—war between aberdeen and rangers for manager derek mcinnes. it ended with him staying at aberdeen. he is in charge for the game at dundee tonight, having told the club's fans, he wasn't there to walk away tojoin the club's fans, he wasn't there to walk away to join rangers. it is 0—0 with half an hour played. moeen ali says the team still believes they can turn the ashes series around, despite trailing 2—0 to australia. he will captain an england side in perth, not bowling to allow a cut on his finger to heal, but will recover in time for the third test in perth, which sta rts the third test in perth, which starts on thursday. because i am a finger spinner, it is the one thing that i really need. it needs to be 100%. obviously, i did it in the first innings of the first game, and since then i have been taking it easy. it has been difficult to bowl and stuff, but the last game was much better. ijust didn't bowl as well. hopefully, another 5—6 days of it no bowling, it will be all right. five—time snooker champion ronnie o'sullivan is through to the semifinals at the uk championship in york. he is one of only two seeds left in the competition. he won 6—3 against martin gould after racing to against martin gould after racing to a 5—0 lead. o'sullivan is the clear favourite with the bookies to claim a sixth uk title. o'sullivan plays stephen mcguire for a place in the final tomorrow. the 2004 champion reached the semifinals after beating joe perry 6—3. the other two quarterfinals will be decided tonight. these are life pictures at the moment, no action as we speak, but the only other seeded player left in the tournament, shaun murphy, he is 3—1 ahead against mark king. ryan day is 2—1 up against markjoyce. both king. ryan day is 2—1 up against mark joyce. both matches king. ryan day is 2—1 up against markjoyce. both matches available on the bbc red button and bt —— bt sport website. charley hull is in contention after round three of golf‘s dubai classic. she finished on nine under par, three shots off the lead going into tomorrow's final run. laura davies florentino parker are a shot further back. that is all the sports are now. we are back in the next hour. see you then. a section of the m5 remains closed in both directions, with some passengers saying they have been in their vehicles for more than four hours. the motorway‘s closure was sparked by an incident betweenjunctions 28 and 29 for exeter and cullompton. the highways agency is asking drivers to avoid the area or use diversionary routes. huge conjecture people are getting home on a friday night, and people trying to get away from the weekend, people are advising people to avoid the m5 and use alternative routes, there are also both versions in place. the alternative routes are extremely congested as people try to avoid the m5. we have had lots of callers to bbc radio 2 evan that stayed on air later so that drivers can be kept up—to—date with the ongoing situation. many drivers are calling in saying they are cold and hungry. the police had tweeted to say they are working towards a safe resolution. we don't know yet when the road will reopen. stationary traffic is being turned back to dance and 29. some people have tweeted, some in good spirits, asking about card games, but some people fed up. one person said they we re people fed up. one person said they were stuck in traffic for four hours, not enough fuel to keep the car running and it is three degrees outside. also, the police have tweeted tonight i'm thanking drivers for patients, and they hope to come toa for patients, and they hope to come to a safe resolution as soon as possible. the police incident you refer to, any more details about that? we don't at the moment. we know the emergency services are at junction 28, which is cullompton. severe congestion around the area to tiverton, tiverton, an otten, cullompton, exeter, all congested. those people stuck on the m5 are stuck until they are allowed to get. thank very much indeed. on the line is tally mairs — who has been stuck on the m5 betweenjunction 29 and 28 for over four hours. good evening to you. i don't suppose it isa good evening to you. i don't suppose it is a good evening for you. this must be a trial. unfortunately, it has not been an easyjourney home from work. can you tell me where you we re from work. can you tell me where you were going and where you got stuck and what the traffic is like?” were going and where you got stuck and what the traffic is like? i was travelling between exeter and taunton, on my way home from work, my usual journey, taunton, on my way home from work, my usualjourney, usually takes me about 40 minutes. i got stuck shortly before... sorry, i am pulling over at a junction. the services were four miles away, and traffic came to a grinding halt and i couldn't move anywhere. i looked on twitter to see what was happening. it is very, very cold, i think, in most places to, are you cold? yes. i didn't want to run the car because i was concerned about the battery. i knew the electrics would still use the battery. you don't want another problem after being stuck forfour don't want another problem after being stuck for four hours. three degrees tonight, so very cold. you don't have children in the car, do you? know, thankfully. they wouldn't have appreciated it. i'm sure. there was talk of a supermarket lorry somewhere near was talk of a supermarket lorry somewhere near you , was talk of a supermarket lorry somewhere near you, is that right? there was a supermarket lorry, a couple of cars ahead of me will stop they win the slow lane, i was in the fast lane, but i was told that they wouldn't be able to open the lorry. they couldn't give you any food or drink to help you? is there any sign of traffic now moving? are the police able to turn traffic round or open the road? yes. i am lucky, i have got off at an emergency access point, and nowi have got off at an emergency access point, and now i am just struggling with traffic through cullompton, and heading northwards to cullompton. i suspect it will be slow—moving for those trying to get further up the access point. i hope you get to the end of yourjourney access point. i hope you get to the end of your journey soon. access point. i hope you get to the end of yourjourney soon. we are grateful to you forjoining us. at least 14 united nations peacekeepers have been killed and more than 50 injured after being attacked by armed militia in eastern congo. the un has been hearing details of the attack in which six congolese soldiers were also killed. the un has had a peacekeeping role there for more than a decade. here, a teenager, who "starved to death" weeks after leaving home for university, was failed by every nhs organisation that should have cared for her, according to the health service ombudsman. he said the death of 18—year—old averil hart, who had a history of anorexia, could and should have been prevented. four separate nhs hospitals and trusts in norfolk and cambridgeshire have apologised. snow and wintry weather have caused disruption across many parts of the uk,— with power cuts, school closures and icy conditions on the roads. the met office says snow showers have been affecting parts of scotland, northern ireland and northern england — and it's warning of more snow and ice to come this weekend. judith moritz reports. shropshire saw snow from early on. the roads were already treacherous before morning rush hour, and those sledges were an option for some. few commuters went anywhere quickly. the police warned of numerous crashes and gridlocked roads, and it was the same story on the isle of man, the whole island succumbed to the snow. all of its schools closed, a result of traffic difficulties and safety concerns. flights were delayed and medical appointments cancelled. in wales, there have been problems all day. this view of the a5 near wrexham was filmed by the passenger in one car. drivers were warned to be careful. other roads were closed after multiple accidents. this bus in denbighshire struggled to get up the hill and eventually gave up, even if its name had seemed apt for the freezing weather conditions. it has meant with their lessons cancelled, many children in wales are having a long weekend. this school in flintshire took an early decision to close this morning, others sent pupils home during the course of the day. in total, nearly 200 schools across wales shut because of the snow. in scotland, all schools in orkney and shetland are closed and dozens shut as well in aberdeenshire and the highlands. hundreds of homes were without power. in northern ireland, this school stayed open, but there was travel disruption elsewhere, and there is more to come across the uk, with heavy skies promising more snow throughout the weekend. judith moritz, bbc news, flintshire. talking of snow, let's get the details of the weatherhead. tomasz schafernaker is details of the weatherhead. tomasz schaferna ker is here. the threat of snow‘s going to continue over the next couple of days, quite a significant threat by the time we get to sunday morning for some parts of the country. in the short—term, snow showers continuing over parts of wales, the midlands, the north—east of england, northern ireland and scotland. and it's going to be a cold night, there will be ice around in northern and western areas. on saturday, fewer snow showers, but some places that haven't seen snow yet could get them, for example, around liverpool, manchester, possibly in to, say, leeds and sheffield, also parts of northern scotland continue with snow showers. but many of us on saturday, a cold, sunny day. then the problem happens saturday night into sunday, a lot of cold air. look at the blue, that is frost. a new weather front, a fresh weather front comes off the atlantic, and watch what happens, rain turns to snow, then from wales, northern ireland, into the midlands, this could be fairly significant as we go through sunday morning. this is bbc news — our latest headlines. the brexit negotiations look set to move onto the next stage after both sides reached a deal on the terms of the uk's departure. getting to this point has required give and take on both sides and i believe thejoint report that is being published is in the best interests of the whole of the uk. the prime minister says there'll be no hard border with ireland — and it's thought britain's divorce bill will be between 35 and £40 billion. violence has flared between israeli forces and palestinians protesting at president trump's recognition ofjerusalem as israel's capital. snow is continuing to fall in many parts of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, causing power cuts, school closures and travel disruption. more on the brexit phase one deal now. so what exactly was agreed in the small hours this morning between the uk and the eu — and what does it mean? chris morris from the bbc‘s reality check team takes a closer look. a breakthrough in the brexit negotiations for sure, but it's worth emphasising that this is only an agreement that sufficient progress has been made on issues relating to the uk's withdrawal. it locks in the progress made so far, but at the same time emphasises that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. and the toughest talks are still to come. this is not the end, but it is the end of the beginning. and we will remain fully engaged and vigilant throughout phase two, the drafting and ratification of the new treaties that will be required between the eu and the uk, and their implementation. so how has the benchmark of sufficient progress been reached? well, on the irish border, the hope is that a future free trade agreement will mean many of the concerns about a hard border simply melt away. but as a backstop, if all else fails, the uk has promised to maintain full alignment with eu single market and customs rules that govern trade across the border. exactly how that will be done isn't entirely clear, but you certainly can't have partial membership of the single market and the customs union. on citizens' rights, it's been agreed that the cut—off date for an agreement on the rights of eu citizens in the uk, and uk citizens elsewhere in the eu, will be the day brexit actually happens. in other words, some people yet to arrive could still qualify. there will also be a potential role for the european court ofjustice, directly for eight years and indirectly thereafter. the number of legal cases it's likely to cover is very small, but some brexiteers won't be entirely happy. nor are some campaigners for citizens' rights, because many details have yet to be resolved. and then there's the financial settlement, the divorce bill. a method for calculating it has been agreed. it will be paid in euros. but technical negotiations will continue on various aspects, including when and how the money gets paid. how much is the final amount likely to be? we'll probably never know for sure, but uk sources say the equivalent of up to £40 billion. while some eu sources still think it will be higher. and this is only phase one. formal talks about the outlines of a future relationship on trade, security and so on haven't yet started. the next priority will be to agree upon the terms of a transition period for about two years after brexit. the eu says it means the uk staying in the single market and the customs union. the government says that's not how it understands it at all. it is very clear that more challenging negotiation lies ahead. chris morris, bbc news. i'm joint from newcastle by tanya goodman, a professor at northumbria university and eu citizen living in the uk. also joined by jane golding, chair of british in europe, the largest coalition group of british citizens living and working in europe, who joins us from berlin. ifi if i can first speak to tanja in newcastle, what did you think of the deal, such as we know about it agreed in the early hours of the morning? i'm not sure we can describe it as ideal, a deal to me suggests problems are resolved and there is an agreement i can take certainty from. it's not how i see what we learned today. our lives will continue to be in limbojust what we learned today. our lives will continue to be in limbo just as much today as they were yesterday. some things have been agreed. one or two things you can say, well, that's an advance. perhaps you don't think it's an advance. it's fair to say there are some positives to take away from the report we've had today, for example around health care. it throws up significant problems, particularly among the european court of justice problems, particularly among the european court ofjustice and what it means in terms of a limited time period for the protection of rights. i'm concerned about that. there was no certainty moving forward as far as i'm concerned. somebody in your position, in newcastle upon tyne, presumably settled here for the moment, doing a job you enjoy, one hopes. do you think you have a secure future in britain now? no. it's a very simple straightforward answer. why would i think that? i gotan e—mail answer. why would i think that? i got an e—mail today from the home office that told me i would have, broadly, the same rights as now. i don't want broadly the same rights. this is the story of millions of people, not just this is the story of millions of people, notjust me, it goes for all of us. that was the actual wording, was it, broadly? yes. you don't know what that means? i don't, we came here in good faith to the uk and i would have expected the good faith to be honoured by the uk because we contribute every day, millions of others. broadly the same rights is not honouring the good faith we came with. what about people who still wa nt to with. what about people who still want to come to this country over the next couple of years? they'll be allowed to, as i understand it. beyond that, if we try to look much further beyond it, took ten years, do you think this country, immigration, movement into this country from europe, will more or less have stopped do you think?” mean migration never stops, as a migration historian i know that much. there is always movement of people. sorry i keep having to put this back in. but a hand by your ear if you need to. i might do that. i think there will be movement, undoubtedly. let's not forget we're not talking about just undoubtedly. let's not forget we're not talking aboutjust migration movements here, we're talking about reciprocal rights. that's also a concern british in europe would have as well. that's why we're shoulder to shoulder. it applies to all of us in the same way. this is not a matter of one directional migration, it's a question of reciprocal rights being taken away. thank you very much indeed. jane golding, chair of british in europe, you are in berlin. what did you think of what you heard in the early hours this morning? i'd probably agree with a lot of what tanja has just said. in our view it doesn't fix the uncertainty or guarantee all of our rights, there are still fundamental issues. there seems to be a consensus that would we —— we would be able to carry on our lives as we do now. and that the deal made in the early hours of this morning, in our view, doesn't deliver that. fundamental issues are still open. what are the main issues you see? the first and most fundamental for us the first and most fundamental for us is free movement. at the moment we can live and work across the whole eu. the deal done this morning would guarantee our rights for british in europe. just in the country where we live now. the country where we live now. the country we are resident in now. the vast majority of us are working age or younger. around 80% of us are. many of our members work across borders, even if you live in one country, you're offering services or working in other countries. if i ta ke working in other countries. if i take the example of one of our members, sarah, a caterer. her livelihood involves working across five different countries. that is key to her livelihood. you have concern about people who run businesses, it's notjust the stages of the individual, but the status of their company. well yes, that's right. currently we have the right to establish and run businesses in member states where we are living. that would continue to be guaranteed in the country of residence. it would be more difficult to operate across the eu, if you don't have rights of free movement and you can't move yourself as a person, as an individual, to work in other countries other than that in which you are a resident. ifi could countries other than that in which you are a resident. if i could go back quickly to tanja, to ask this question. it's taken a struggle to get where we are now. do you think it's possible that this very important matter of individuals rights will be buried somehow under all the other things still to be agreed? in my view it's already been buried, we already collateral damage, that's how i see it. today has proved that. if you leave people in limbo for over 500 days, it sends a very clear message to those people. the question is how many will take that forward into actual action. we've already seen lots of people leave. i think this isn't something for the future, it's already happened. jane golding, do you know if people are doing the reverse , you know if people are doing the reverse, coming away from the mainland of europe, heading back to the uk, much of that going on?” think it's probably something people are starving to think about, they've beenin are starving to think about, they've been in limbo all this time and can't take decisions. it'll be something some of the older members, retired members of our groups, will have to consider, yes, indeed. thank you both very much indeed for joining us. thank you. a state of emergency has been declared in california, in response to wildfires that have raged for five days and destroyed hundreds of buildings and homes. over five thousand firefighters have been battling the blazes — which stretch from los angeles up to santa barbara county. almost 200,000 people have been forced to flee with homes. for california, an epic battle continues. they've been fighting this blaze in the mountains north of los angeles all week, and still it devours forest and brush, and has destroyed more than 430 buildings. yet again tonight, this blaze is burning with an intense ferocity, and that means a battle, because there is property down here, very close to the fire, and these firefighters have been working very, very hard for the past few days. they are exhausted, but they are back here again now to try and stop this fire from burning these properties. the fire is now churning towards the pacific ocean, where communities as far north as santa barbara are preparing for evacuations. to the south, a new blaze exploded fast in san diego county, blowing up gas tanks under homes and forcing pupils to flee from their schools. for those who have not been currently impacted by the fire, they need to prepare as if they are going to be impacted by the fire. where are they going to go? what are their escape routes? what is their communication with theirfamily? what are they going to do with their pets? do they have their vehicles loaded to go? often, we don't ask people to think about these things continuously, but tonight is one of those nights, today is one of these fires that people need to be ready. in the exclusive los angeles suburb of bel—air, the situation has improved. a handful of homes were destroyed, but many more were saved. the musician lionel ritchie and the socialite paris hilton were among those forced to flee their mansions. every firefighting aircraft in the united states has been summoned to california, and they are making a big difference. with resources stretched to the limit, firefighters from neighbouring states have arrived in california to help. they'll be needed. the extreme weather is forecast to continue into the weekend. james cook, bbc news, california. if you've ever wanted to own a rodin or a classical greek statue — but have only pennies to spare — now‘s your chance. a group of the world's leading museums havejust signed up to a new agreement to scan and share their works of art. which means that if you like a work in a museum — you'll be able to print off your own 3d version at home. our arts correspondent david sillito has been looking at how it's done. you must be john. nice to meet you. i have got to ask you first come it you have brought the cameras? yes, i have. is this legal? it is, don't worry! his name isjonathan beck and he is from a group called scan the world. we are the v&a. i'm sneaking in to scan this bust. this felt a bit like theft. he took a few photos from different angles, uploaded them and within seconds, a 3—d printer across town had set to work making a copy of the sculpture. these printers now can cost as little as £99, so the v&a, along with the louvre, the hermitage and the smithsonian have published a new convention, setting out plans to allow anyone to copy and share their artworks. they are even doing their own scans now. this scanning and sharing, what is in it for you? what is interesting is the more content we put online, on the web, the more people who come through our doors here at the v&a. they want the original? i think there's something about the human condition, that despite seeing it on the screen, they want to see the for themselves. i have a special gift for you. meanwhile, in the sculpture gallery, jonathan was back. how long did this take? it took about six hours to print. cost? about 30p. 30p, there is the future. remarkable! the headlines on bbc news: the brexit negotiations look set to move onto the next stage after both sides reached a deal on the terms of the uk's departure. violence has flared between israeli

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