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us and destroyed. if you have been with us this morning thanks for your company throughout the morning. now on bbc news it's inside out. hello and welcome to inside out. tonight, could the emergency services have acted any faster on the night of the manchester arena bomb? i said we need paramedics, we need paramedics now. how life after top—level sport can be traumatic. when you are part of the team it is brilliant, and when that got pulled away from me it had a massive impact on my mental health. and why liverpool is the star of a new hollywood movie. i just want to go back to liverpool. say it again. liverpool. 0h...wow. in may, a suicide bomber killed 22 people at manchester arena. hundreds more were injured. inside out has learned that some of the most seriously wounded victims had to wait over an hour before receiving expert medical treatment. colin paterson, who was one of the first reporters on the scene that night, also investigates why firefighters were held back for nearly two hours. on the 22nd of may, salman abedi made his way to the manchester arena, waiting for the ariana grande concert to finish. as fans streamed out he detonated a suicide device. there was rubble and smoke everywhere, and there was just screaming. it was too much for three paramedics to deal with. that night the emergency services treated hundreds of people, many with life—changing injuries. but what we have learnt is that some of the most seriously wounded had to wait for more than an hour before receiving any expert medical treatment. 12 months before the bomb, a training exercise was staged at the trafford centre on the outskirts of manchester. authorities were pleased with how it had gone. we are delighted, i mean the aim of the exercise was to really stress test all of the organisations that would respond to a terror attack. but what happened on the 22nd of may, when a real terror attack took place? abedi triggered his bomb atio:31 pm. on the night i was here right in the centre of manchester, and in the aftermath i was interviewing people on radio 5 live trying to piece together what had happened. everybody just started running as far as we could. the whole building shook, and there were bodies everywhere. how long were you lying there for? um...probably an hour. so on the night, people were telling me that some of the injured were waiting an hour for treatment. shortly after iipm, that's half an hour after the bomb went off, those who had been in the foyer, injured but able to walk, were evacuated to here, this is victoria station approach. ambulance crews from across england treated the injured who had been able to escape the scene. but for those in the foyer, expert help was still very limited. before the police cordon was made secure, only one northwest ambulance service paramedic made it the foyer. made it to the foyer. over the next hour, he was joined by two more paramedics. but eyewitnesses we have spoken to say more medical help was desperately needed. kim and phil dick from bradford were in the foyer to collect their daughter and granddaughter. keep going, keep going. seconds after the explosion, a victim with serious injuries collapsed in front of kim. she could hardly walk, she was stumbling, bleeding from her arm and her mouth and her leg, and all her hair was burned, and ijust grabbed her because i thought she was going to fall. how long was this over? over an hour, just over an hour, ijust kept saying, you're being really brave, but we could hear the ambulances all the time. as time passed, concern grew about the lack of paramedics in the foyer. the armed police, there were normal police, armed police, ijust kept shouting, we need paramedics, we need paramedics now. and theyjust said they were making sure there was no more bombs. an hour after the explosion, the wounded in the foyer were only receiving basic first aid rather than expert paramedic help. the longer it went on the more silent it became, and it was absolutely, it was really eerie, and people who i had seen a little earlier who were severely injured, were now dead. they made a decision at some point, about an hour and ten minutes after the explosion, i think that... the medical staff weren't coming up to the foyer, but they were going to evacuate all the casualties. the girl they looked after did survive. security fears may explain why only three paramedics could enter the so—called hot zone, where the bomb had gone off. but it's hard to understand the dela in the arrival of fire and rescue staff. commanders on the night held fire and rescue staff back at their stations until 12:18 am, fully one hour and 47 minutes after the blast. the fire service made a decision to go to a rendezvous point which is normal practice, as did the ambulance service, the ambulance service was called forward and at this stage i am unsure as to why the fire service were delayed for so long. greater manchester fire and rescue service has a technical response unit — these are people trained specifically to deal with terrorist situations. that unit took part in the trafford centre exercise last year. it's still uncertain who on the night made the decision not to deploy that units. save the uk fire service is the major online platform forfirefighters in the uk. but on the night of the manchester bomb those who were on duty used this page as the event was unfolding to vent their frustrations that they weren't being sent to the arena. i have been a firefighter in manchester for nearly ten years and i had never felt so much guilt in my life. we were only half a mile away from helping, half a mile from potentially saving lives and that will always stick with me forever. a paramedic lady came to us, pleading with us to help, because they needed it. one firefighter who was on duty that night has come forward to tell us how it felt. we just sat there waiting, waiting for the get go. you're kicking yourself for what you could have done, i mean we might not have changed anything, but we could have been there to help. there were homeless people helping, members of the public helping, i am a paid member of the public service and i wanted to help, i just wasn't allowed to help. those who were trapped in the foyer that night remain very grateful that so many were willing to put their lives at risk to help save others. but almost six months on, some remain concerned that emergency medical help was so slow to arrive. they want to minimise the risk to as many people as possible, i perfectly understand that. but they deployed tens if not hundreds of police officers into the foyer, and if some of those had been medically trained... they could have... you can't say for certain, but some people's injuries could have been dealt with quicker and perhaps, just perhaps, some lives could have been saved. but one man who collected his son from the arena believes the authorities did the absolute best they could. you would like everybody to get help straightaway, you would like every single medic, every doctor who was in manchester should have been there. and would have liked them to have been there, and everyone would have been in there helping, nobody would have died, and that would be it. but it couldn't happen. the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, has now set up an independent review under lord kerslake to learn lessons from the events in may. it is due to report next year. there was a feeling at the time that the wrong call was made in those moments. it seems to me there is some substance to that, and it was one of the reasons why the independent review was set up. but it's not about feelings is it, that's the point, it is about what is the evidence, and that evidence is being looked at by the review. those in charge of the emergency services that night had a truly terrible decision to make — should they deploy as quickly as possible, trying to save lives, but while there was still the threat of a second explosion? or should they wait until the area had been declared safe, therefore delaying treatment to victims of the bomb as a result. we contacted all the emergency services — the northwest ambulance service told us they were proud of their response to the manchester arena attack. greater manchester fire and rescue said they have conducted their own internal debrief to the organisation's response to the manchester arena attack, and are fully cooperating with the kerslake review. greater manchester police told us that they contacted the northwest ambulance service within three minutes of the incident being declared, and they followed their major incident plan. none of these organisations wanted to appear in this film while the kerslake review is ongoing. the life of a professional sportsman oi’ woman can be incredibly glamorous. the fame, the financial rewards, the adulation. but what happens to those things when they stop competing? our reporter is former athlete diane modahl, or as she was known when she was winning gold at the commonwealth games, diane edwards. commentator: diane edwards in lane three. those were the days. i have always thought that a sporting career is like running a long—distance race. they come up now, is it fast enough... occasionally there will be barriers along the way, and maybe falls, but there will also be fantastic highs. the australians are coming out, they are into the wind... so what actually happens when you reach the finishing line? sometimes, i think that can be the hardest part of all. danny sculthorpe was a successful prop forward with wigan and england. for him, rugby league was everything, especially when it was a big game. the hairs on the back of your neck are on end, the adrenaline that's going through your body is absolutely unbelievable, i can't explain how good it was, it was brilliant, absolutely brilliant. but towards the end of his career, danny had serious injury problems, and when his final club, bradford bulls, tore up his contract in 2010, he was devastated. he wasjust 31. i lost myjob, lost my career, we lost our family house...| get upset talking about it, i had two kids and a wife that i couldn't support, and that's when the depression started. for a long time i did what most men do when they're struggling with mental health issues, i kept it to myself. i thought i'd deal with it, i'm supposed to be this 6'11", 17.5 stone rugby leage prop forward, i can't have mental health issues. i found myself in my car in the middle of wigan with a bottle of gin and a box full of pills that would have killed half the town, and i was going to take my own life, now for some reason i didn't. but i am just lucky that i decided not to do it on that occasion, i remember coming home, and the day after that is when my mum and dad and my wife sat me down and called me out on it, and changed my life, saved my life. danny's experience is actually not that unusual in the world of professional sport, as neurologist and former footballer tony faulkner told me. if they have not developed options and opportunities to transition into a further career, than their brain can often go into a threat state, and their thought process can become more negative, and that can lead to many issues such as clinical depression. we are aware of certain athletes who have taken their life because of that loss of identity that retirement brings. good left hand move. immediately gets things back on where natasha jonas would like it... as an amateur boxer, natasha jonas won a stack of titles, including european championship gold and world championship bronze. she made history at london 2012 when she became the first british woman to box in the olympics. boxing is just a skill. but you learn so much more and you learn a lot of life skills, being in the gym. there's loads of little milestones. obviously the olympics was by far my greatest boxing achievement. but then a foot injury led to defeat in the commonwealth games and failure to qualify for the rio olympics. natasha made the decision to retire. she's been such a trailblazer... can i do it for anotherfour years? i came to the conclusion that i couldn't. my time was done. i don't think that i could have been that athlete again. so i thought, now is the time. natasha started to prepare for life outside the ring. she found work with sports organisations and broadcasters. and there was another compelling reason for her to reappraise herfuture plans — she was pregnant with her daughter. i had a whole new world and i kept myself busy with the baby, kept myself busy with new companies, with work. for the first year or so of her life you're trying to get her into a routine, so my mind was totally off doing what i needed to do because i was so focused on her. despite the perception that she had it all, the pull of boxing proved too powerful. when i left boxing, i realised that that routine was the thing that i missed. the thing that i said i hated i missed most. i had left boxing on a bit of a low. i hadn't gone to rio, i got beaten in the commonwealth games, where should have won a medal. i had unfinished business, really. once i got over, like, the physical stuff, i thought, no, i've still got it. and so earlier this year, she turned professional, working with manchester trainerjoe gallagher. she's already won her first three fights. and i want your six digit number to be as close as possible to that... ben burgess is known to these school children at hawes side academy, in blackpool, as their favourite teacher. but to thousands of football fans he is remembered as a striker at nearby bloomfield road. his 111 year career took him to no fewer than ten clubs, including blackburn, old ham and stockport. but after years of wear and tear and 21 operations on his knees, ben realised in 2012 that he wouldn't be able to fulfil a new contract he'd just signed. when your body can't do what your mind wants it to do it's the most frustrating thing in the world. we sort of wrote the two years in my contract off and that was it. we just sort of parted. i was really emotional at the time and it was a lot to take in. driving home from liverpool, i had to stop the car and, sort of, gather my thoughts. i don't want to see one answer... the key factor which helped with ben's transition into the real world was that, unlike most athletes, he had planned ahead. i always had on the back of my mind that i needed something. i managed to get a journalism degree. i was doing little bits of freelance while i was still playing. as i knew my career was coming to an end, it was sort of, what can i do with my qualifications? someone mentioned that if you've got a degree you can do a pgce to become a qualified primary school teacher. you could say that ben's transition from footballer to school teacher is a lesson for all. whilst they are competing, it's important for them to have other interest outside of that sport, which can then lead into their transition when they come to the end of their career. danny sculthorpe's in a good place now. his failed suicide attempt proved to be a turning point. my family mean everything to me. absolutely everything. i could have done something stupid that day and spoilt it. i could have ruined their lives. so to see them growing up healthy, you know, just means the world to me. i absolutely love them to bits. all right, big smiles for dad... he is now working with state of mind, a mental health charity. we've spoken to 27,000 people over the last six years and 28 people have told us that because of one of our sessions they've changed the minds on taking their life, which is absolutely unbelievable. family life is at the centre of natasha jonas‘s life too and she's a winner once again, but she knows the day will come when retirement beckons once more. it is scary. i can't walk away from boxing. i don't think i'll 100% ever leave boxing. i'll always have something to do with it. children are at the heart of ben burgess‘s daily life too. football's in the past, he's concentrating on developing the citizens of the future. i don't want the children to see that you're either clever or you're not, or talented or you're not, it's about how hard you work. it's clear that some athletes handled the move into retirement much better than others. but for me there's a duty of care for everybody in sport to ensure that our sports men and women make that transition as easily as possible. there's a bit of an oscar buzz about a new movie called film stars don't die in liverpool, which is out later this month and starts annette bening and jamie bell. it tells the remarkable true story of a man whose life is turned upside down when he met and fell in love with a hollywood superstar back in the 1970s. i've been to meet him. so, if i make you a drink, will you come into my room and hustle with me? i need a partner for my dance class. i mean, if you fix me a drink, i'll come in and clean your bathroom. it's a classic young man meets older woman love story, except in this case he was just a young actor from liverpool and she was a former hollywood screen goddess. a bit far—fetched? maybe, but this is very much a true story. it begins in the late 1970s. when gloria came to do a play in london, she came to rent this groundfloor apartment in this house and i was at the top of the house. were you aware of who she was immediately? no. no? obviously i knew that she was gonna be comic, but gloria grahame? ijust didn't really know. i hadn't seen any of her films. what the young peter turner hadn't realised was that 20 years earlier gloria grahame was at the top of the hollywood tree. she'd starring in classics like it's a wonderful life and oklahoma and played femme fatale to leads like humphrey bogart, robert mitchum, kirk douglas and lee marvin. around the time she met peter, gloria was interviewed on a saturday night bbc show. she admitted she'd been cast against type in one of her most famous roles. # i'm just a girl who can't say no. # i'm in a terrible fix. he asked me if i could sing and i said no. he said, of course you sing. isaid, no, i don't. he said, well, you sing in the shower? i said, no, i couldn't carry it in a bucket, you know? we just connected. there was a big age gap and at that time it was quite controversial. she didn't kind of play the film star, the movie star, she used to travel around on the buses or the tube and wait in queues and all things like that. for two years the couple lived it up in la, new york and london, before splitting up in 1980. but within a year the final dramatic scenes would be played out in liverpool. gloria would spend her last days here, at peter's family home near sefton park. it all followed a phone call from the duke's theatre in lancaster. that phone call that came to this house, what did it say to you? what did it say? it was very brief. "gloria grahame is here, she's very ill." "what? "how ill?" they said, "well, she is very, very ill and would you come immediately?" she came to liverpool when the chips were down, a place where she felt safe. she wanted to get better. it was futile. i think that really, now, she knew that she was going to die. she knew that she'd left it late. eventually peter wrote a moving account of the difficult days that followed and the two fabulous years which preceded them. the book was published in 1986 and now it's been turned into a film starring annette bening and jamie bell, as peter. we expected the sort of gloria grahame from birkenhead, or penny lane. not that gloria grahame from the woolton picture palace. we never expected that gloria grahame in our kitchen, making a bacon butty, asking for tommy sauce! it is the relationship that has meant the most to him. it's affected him the most greatly. i would spend many hours with him just sitting down and asking what were to him probably pointless questions, but to me meant everything. has anyone ever told you you look like lauren bacall when you smoke? yeah, humphrey bogart, and i didn't like it then either. yeah, so, this is the backstage of the playhouse theatre. it's fantastic, isn't it? at the time that gloria was seriously ill in the family home at sefton park, peter was appearing in a play at the liverpool playhouse. the theatre is the location of one of the most moving scenes in the film and peter has a small cameo. it was so strange, you know, surreal, to be on stage with jamie... being you. being me, playing that part and with annette, the wonderful annette bening, being gloria grahame. it was like a time capsule... where am i? what's going on? life is full of surprises. 31 years after writing his book and 36 years after he'd last seen gloria, peter turner finally got to see the film. he watched it in a private screening with the producer barbara broccoli. at the end of the screening, barbara had to... i said, ijust want to sit by myself. barbara had to leave her seat and come round and give me a big hug because...| was in bits. it's such a significant part of your life, isn't it? it is big. it's kind of... it's always been defining. the whole period, the whole relationship, you know, kind of has given me so much and defined who i am to a large extent, yeah. the film is a heartfelt tribute to peter turner's love affair with a remarkable woman. a relationship which took a young man on a journey that changed his life. and the film is released on the 17th of november. inside out is back in the new year. see you then. some of us have sunshine throughout the weekend. others are being made to wait. a damp start in the midlands today but things have perked up in the east midlands compared with earlier. not doing that in somerset this afternoon, light and patchy rain, but we keep much of south wales and south—west england under cloud. sunshine in northern england. good sunny spells in scotland. scattering of showers in the north and west. over the next hour we will see the rain into this evening turning heaviest over south wales in southern england. you can see the wet zone here. showers across northern scotland. becoming more widespread around irish sea coast and pushing through parts of wales, the midlands, and south—west england late in the night. a touch of frost on the higher ground of england and scotland. caldaire established over the northern half of the uk, by tomorrow that will spread its way south. —— cold air. showers affecting parts of england and wales. in northern scotland they will become more prevalent in the afternoon along north sea coast. at the cenotaph there will be some showers. they should be clearing. but there will be a chilly breeze. this is how things look across the uk at 11 o'clock. fine weather, but there will be showers for wales and south—west england. those early ones pulling away from south east england. plenty of sunshine for many across the midlands. you may catch a shower in the west midlands. the northern england, a bright sky. in northern ireland, if you showers, and still a scattering of showers in northern scotland. a strong wind up northern scotland. a strong wind up north and a gusty wind over north sea coast throughout the afternoon. could be some hail stones, and they will be very gusty winds. most will see lots of sunshine, a brisk feel to things, but with that chilly wind, and haemorrhages in single figures, and just double figures for some “— figures, and just double figures for some —— temperatures in single figures. the strongest wind means there will be a wide spread frost developing. there may be a bit of snow at times over the high hills. but through the week it will turn milder after that cold and frosty start to the week. milder air on the way next week. cloud coming back to us. way next week. cloud coming back to us. patchy and occasional rain at times. there is more on the website. this is bbc news. the headlines at two: two minutes silence across the country — in memory of those who have lost their lives while serving in the armed forces. the husband of a british woman held in prison in iran renews his call for a meeting with borisjohnson and to accompany the foreign secretary should he visit the country. donald trump has held brief informal talks with vladimir putin at the international summit of asia pacific nations in vietnam. lewis hamilton takes to twitter to condemn an attack at gun point in brazil last night on members of his world—championship team. and in half an hour here on bbc news, city of culture takes some

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