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after 9.30 this morning. and will the bank of england put up interest rates later? if they do, it will for the first time in ten years. bad news for mortgage holders. good news for savers. we'll assess how likely it is to happen. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. we're also talking about nursing shortages this morning as new figures show a drop—off in the numbers of eu citizens wanting to work here. let us know — if you're an eu national working in the health service, or perhaps you're experiencing staff shortages on wards where you work? let us know your experiences. we have a lot of shift workers, nhs workers who watch the programme. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged sir michael had been caught up in the claims of inappropriate behaviour currently sweeping westminster. the only public allegation was that, 15 years ago, he had repeatedly touched the knee of a journalist, who dismissed it as mildly amusing. for some, his decision to go showed there was strong leadership in government. theresa may has clearly laid the law down, both to the party, to parliament, and also more particularly to her cabinet, and said, these are the standards that i simply will not accept. if you fall below them, with regards to this use of power to extract from people sexual favours, or whatever, that is intolerable and i won't stand for it. but, for now, theresa may has a spare space around her top table. she has lost a key ally and must work out how to replace him, in a cabinet that was already delicately balanced. let's talk to norman smith who has the latest for us... how damaging is this theresa may? well, it's just given how damaging is this theresa may? well, it'sjust given rocket how damaging is this theresa may? well, it's just given rocket fuel to the whole sexual harassment scandal the whole sexual harassment scandal the buffeting of westminster and a reason they's government. michael fallon was a point of stability within a cabinet where we know that there are big personalities with very diverging views on brexit. he was a political streetfighter, had been around the block a few times. he was a go to person for prime ministers in moments of trouble. he added a bit of glue around theresa may but now, he is out of it. more than that, he says that the reason that he went was because of incidents in the past where ten or 15 years ago, they may have been viewed as banter or flotation but 110w viewed as banter or flotation but now would be viewed as unacceptable. it seems to me to be setting the bar pretty high for other ministers because of allegations that are to emerge about other ministers which could involve relatively minor levels of sexually improper behaviour. that too could be deemed as an appropriate and those ministers would also have to go. the real danger is chunks of the government start falling off and more ministers have to quit if there are more allegations and this is at are more allegations and this is at a time where we know theresa may's leadership is very fragile and while the government is being battered by the government is being battered by the gale force winds of brexit. the government is being battered by the gale force winds of brexitm was michael fallon pushed, or did he jump? well, there lies the question. number 10 will not engage with that. those close to michael fallon insist that there were many new allegations subsequent to the one that you remember at the start of the week where he placed his hand on the knee of the journalistjulia hartley brewer back in 2002. however, i have to say that i've heard claims that other women, or at least one other woman, alerted downing street yesterday to much more recent allegations, and he was, in effect, sacked. downing street said that they do not recognise that interpretation of events, but there are so many interpretation of events, but there are so many allegations swirling around here. it seems to me from theresa may's perspective, that she is trying to get a grip of this and set out her new complaints machinery and surely, the last thing she would have wa nted and surely, the last thing she would have wanted is a dribble of accusations carrying on in the media over one of her leading ministers. norman smith, thank you. we will get the reaction from conservative mp norman for —— michael fabricant and leader of the green party caroline lucas soon. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. president trump has called for the death penalty for sayfullo saipov, the man accused of killing eight people in new york by driving at them with a truck. in a tweet, the president claimed saipov, who was shot and wounded by police at the scene, had asked to hang an islamic state flag in his hospital room. the state of new york has outlawed the death penalty, but that can be overruled by the us government for a federal crime such as this. meanwhile, saipov, a 29—year—old originally from uzbekistan who's been living legally in the us for seven years, has been charged with terrorism offences. law enforcement officials have been giving reporters more details about him. he allegedly admitted that he was inspired to commit the attack by the isis videos that he watched and had been planning the attack for two months. there's been a sharp decline in the number of nurses and midwives from the eu wanting to work in the uk. the nursing and midwifery council says comparing this year to last there has been almost a 90% drop in new registrations. sophie hutchison reports. around one in every 20 nurses and midwives working in the uk was trained in the eu. many from spain, portugal, poland and romania but according to new figures, numbers are declining. the nurses and midwives for regulator, the nmc, said in the year to 2016, more than 10,000 uk register but this year, that fell dramatically to around 1000 and the number of eu nurses working here who decided to give up their uk registration rose by 67%. clearly it is a worrying trend and for those responsible for thinking about what we need in future, the nurses and midwives we need in future to care for us, they will obviously look at this and think, what can we do to reverse that trend? it's what can we do to reverse that trend ? it's difficult what can we do to reverse that trend? it's difficult to speculate as to the reasons why. the figures point to previous evidence pointing toa point to previous evidence pointing to a significant reduction in the number of eu nurses keen to work in the uk since the referendum. it has been described as alarming, the nhs was short of at least 40,000 nurses. the government says that they are ensuring the nhs have the staff they need with a 25% increase in nurse training places. sophie hutchison, bbc news. two soldiers have been charged with negligence following the deaths of three soldiers during an sas selection march in the brecon beacons. craig roberts, edward maher and james dunsby were taking part in and james dunsby were taking part in a 16—mile recruitment exercise on the hottest day of 2013. a coroner ruled they died from neglect. interest rates could be about to rise for the first time in ten yea rs. rise for the first time in ten years. it's expected the bank of england will confirm the move later today. economists say it would mean the cost of some mortgages would go up, but savers should see better returns on their money. the bank of england says any rise would be ‘modest‘. police investigating the manchester arena bombing, which killed 22 people, have requested the extradition to the uk of the brother of the bomber. they've issued an arrest warrant for hashem abedi, who's currently being held in libya. greater manchester police say authorities there are considering the request. police also revealed 512 people are now known to have been injured in the blast back in may. dustin hoffman has been accused of sexually harassing an intern on the set of one of his films in 1985. the writer anna graham hunter says the oscar—winning actor groped her and made inappropriate comments to her when she was 17 years old. hoffman has apologised, and said he was sorry if he "put her in an uncomfortable situation", adding "it is not reflective of who i am." there are warnings over the way mental health therapy is being regulated and that it could be putting vulnerable patients in harms way. currently, no statutory regulation of counsellors or psychotherapists exists and anyone can legally give themselves the title. the government is launching a consultation on the issue and has pledged £1.3 billion to transform mental health services and create 21,000 new posts. children from blackburn are four times more likely to have fillings than their counterparts in south gloucestershire — according to a new report on dental health. it found that as well as there being a north south regional divide, there was a consistent gap between the dental health of the rich and poor in england. people from the most deprived backgrounds were twice as likely to be admitted to hospital for dental work. it's been adopted by donald trump among others, and accused of influencing elections, but today ‘fake news‘ is legitimate news. it's been named collins‘ word of the year, even though it's a two—word phrase, of course. the term was adopted by the us president during his election campaign, and has seen its usage soar by over 300% since 2016. other words on the list include "corbyn—mania", describing fervent enthusiasm for the leader of the labour party. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. i will be talking about therapists later on. if you see a therapist, how do you know that you can trust them? what checks do you do on them? send us your experiences and we will feed those experiences into the conversation. hugh is here with the sport, spurs were magnificent in the champions league last night, weren't they? good morning, they were, ifi they? good morning, they were, if i was a spurs fani good morning, they were, if i was a spurs fan i would be waking up with a sore head this morning! one of the best results in their history, playing real madrid, they have won single of the last four cups. sergio ramos, luka modric, the list goes on and on but pochettino's young team put ina and on but pochettino's young team put in a near—perfect performance last night, dominating at wembley for a 3—1win inspired by england's dele alli, scoring twice on the night. his team—mate christian eriksen made his team—mates delirious! there was a late ronaldo consolation but it was not enough for the spanish giants. it's their first win over the spanish team in their history. spurs are being sent into the knockout stages as a result, a fantastic win for them. dele alli will have to share the headlines with sergio aguero of manchester city, he has become the club's leading goal—scorer of all time, after a 4—2 win over natalie, italy, the 170th goal for the club. manager pep guardiola called him a legend. they reached the last —— liverpool are not there yet that it rounds up a good night for british clu bs rounds up a good night for british clubs with a 3—0 win over maribor. and more history was made overnight in the baseball world series? what a moment for the people of houston, you may remember the devastation that came with hurricane harvey, resulting in nearly 100 deaths but the city has found solace. a reason to smile as their baseball team, the houston astros, w011 baseball team, the houston astros, won again decided to get to 4—3 over the la dodgers, theirfirst series win. they dedicated the title to the people of the city but george springer, their mvp, became the first player to hit home runs in four successive world series games. the day was made even more perfect for one of his team—mates. take a look at this. you make me the happiest man in the world... will you marry me? oh, my god! a touching moments between this player proposing to his girlfriend, daniela rodriguez. look at art rock! more than one month's wagers on that! he dedicated the win to those victims of hurricane maria, which affected puerto rico. what a way for us to start the day here! thank god daniela rodriguez said yes as well! thank you. more for the sport throughout the morning. we will be talking about allegations of sexual abuse and harassment at westminster again... last night the defence secretary resigned. he said his past behaviour had fallen short of the standards expected. his departure leaves the prime minister theresa may with a major hole in her cabinet and is leaving many mps wondering who might be next. laura kuenssberg asked sir michael fallon if he was resigning now because he was more worried there were more allegations to emerge. well, the culture has changed over the years. what might have been acceptable 15, ten years ago is clearly not acceptable now. parliament now has to look at itself and the prime minister has made very clear that conduct needs to be improved and we need to protect the staff of westminster against any particular allegations of harassment. but do you feel that you yourself have done anything wrong? i have behaved in the past clearly in a way that has been occasionally below the standards that we require of the armed forces and i don't think it's right for me to go on as defence secretary expecting the very high standards of our service men and women and fail to meet them myself. do you feel you should apologise for what happened ? i think we've all got to look back now at the past and there are always things you regret, you would have done differently. do you think, do you believe that there is a widespread problem in the culture at westminster? clearly. the prime minister has made it clear now. there are a number of allegations swirling around. many of them are obviously false, but there are some serious issues here that staff at westminster need to be better protected and that claims of harassment need to be properly investigated. the prime minister has now set that machinery in motion and clearly that from now on has to apply to all of us. the former conservative leader iain duncan smith says the prime minister has now laid down the law. duncan smith says the prime minister has now laid down the lawlj duncan smith says the prime minister has now laid down the law. i am told categorically that she was, how can i put it, very clear when she's bowed to the cabinet about what she plans to do and what she wants to do and that clarity leaves various members of the cabinet and of the party generally to recognise whatever limitations there were about their behaviour in the past and to decide whether or not they met the standards and clearly michael fallon felt that was not the case and he took there for a decision to resign. but the key element is not so much on michael fallon‘s decision, but the reason for that decision and the reason was that theresa may has made it very clear, and i know she feels very strongly about this, that we have to lead in parliament on this so others themselves recognise they have to behave in the house. theresa may admitted she was deeply concerned by recent reports and she has invited jeremy corbyn and other party leaders, including the green party's leaders, including the green party's leader caroline lucas, to the meeting. let's talk now to michael fabricant, conservative mp for lichfield who was named on a list of mps accusing him of inappropriate behaviour. when you listen to iain duncan smith there appears to be zero tolerance for almost anything, including putting your hand on some of‘s need almost 15 years ago. do you think there will be other resignations?m is not for me to speculate. the bar has been set so load—bearing is bound to be. i guess i can say depending on what the level of the bar is would anyone be in that position? i have never thought it appropriate to put someone's hands on their knee, it is not something i think you should do. but precisely where the bar has been set and precisely where people's pasts are, they will have to ask themselves. michael fallon was a big ally of the prime minister, a good friend, a solid person around that cabinet table. how damaging is this for theresa may? well, it is not good, and nor should anyone pretended to be good, because as you quite rightly say michael fallon is a loyal secretary of state and she will miss him because of that and because he was a very able secretary of state. no prime minister likes to have a reshuffle when reshuffles have a reshuffle when reshuffles have not been planned by that prime minister long in advance, but i suspect we will get over it. has she got a suspect we will get over it. has she gota grip suspect we will get over it. has she got a grip of the situation? we will have to see how matters proceed over the next few weeks. not necessarily yet that she has got a grip?m the next few weeks. not necessarily yet that she has got a grip? it is not down to her, it is down to the past of individual mps and it is also down to how seriously we are going to take allegations on spreadsheets which are spread on social media and which might have no basis in truth in some cases as we are already finding out. michael fallon said he was resigning because his behaviour had not reached standards expected of him. on the list you mention, an unverified list of allegations against conservative mps, some of whom are ministers, some of the people on the list, what is said about them is inaccurate and some of them it is innocuous, you outed yourself, what are you supposed to have done?|j outed yourself, what are you supposed to have done? i got a phone call on monday morning from channel 4andi call on monday morning from channel 4 and i was in call on monday morning from channel 4andeas ina call on monday morning from channel 4 and i was in a conversation with someone 4 and i was in a conversation with someone at the time and i took the phone call and i was told i was on the list and i was incredulous. i looked down the list of wrongdoings, idid not looked down the list of wrongdoings, i did not have the names of mps at that stage and i did not recognise anything that could have remotely been to do with me. the following day somebody sent me, because they found it on twitter, the unredacted list, and this is the problem. it said that i had been inappropriate with a male journalist in a taxi. for the life of me i cannot remember being in the back of a taxi with a male journalist, so i being in the back of a taxi with a malejournalist, so i guess i must have been after 25 years of being an mp, and what did inappropriate mean? had i asked him about his expenses or have i done something far more serious? if it was more serious, why didn't the journalists write about it? i had been talking to journalists at the house of commons who are great gossips and none of them had heard this story before. it is remarkable it has not come out. how do you being about being on that list inaccurately? i think it is most unfairand list inaccurately? i think it is most unfair and the thing that concerns me, and i have long been asking for this, a mechanism, which protects young, vulnerable people who work in the house of commons because there is this imbalance of power and you have young researchers who are particularly vulnerable and who are particularly vulnerable and who do not want to make a complaint because they are frightened of their own careers, so we must protect them, both men and women by the way. you have had men come to you complaining about being sexually harassed. as a whip. we also need to set up mechanisms that protect mps from being accused of doing things which have subsequently been shown not to be true. you have libel laws of course. you do, but how do you sue social media and that is the problem. that is why i had to out myself because no alleged victim had come out, so the bbc and newspapers would not have published my name, but i chose to do it because there needs to be a voice saying not only must we protect young people, we must we protect young people, we must also protect mps as well, particularly from scurrilous accusations being made by a 16—year—old in a back room on twitter. thank you very much, michael fabricant. twitter. thank you very much, michael fabrica nt. let's twitter. thank you very much, michael fabricant. let's talk now to caroline lucas, co—leader of the green party. good morning. how should theresa may get a grip on this? i think she needs to put in place, and i am grateful she is reaching out across the political parties to do this together, but she needs to put in place a transparent, robust and crucially independent structure whereby these kinds of accusations are not just structure whereby these kinds of accusations are notjust circulating on spreadsheets, but there is a very clear line of accountability, a line where anybody who has any experience or knows of anybody who has experience of this, can go somewhere and know their concerns are going to be followed up properly, that there will be no concern that if something happens that will be undermining for their career in the future. that is unacceptable. if an alleged victim of sexual harassment came to you and said, this has happened to me, what advice would you give them now? now i think we are all more aware of the fa ct i think we are all more aware of the fact structures i think we are all more aware of the fa ct structures a re i think we are all more aware of the fact structures are being put in place. hotline was set up a couple of years ago, frankly not many people knew about that, that was after the channel 4 investigation in 2014, and things have not changed enough. it would depend on the situation, whether it was someone in my party or another party. but you have to have independent, robust channels and if it is at the extreme end where a crime has been committed, they should go to the police and go through a court case. as well as these legal structures, we need to change the culture as well. one of the things that struck me about what michael fallon said is that some of this behaviour might have been appropriate ten years ago. well, now it was not, it was not appropriate ten years ago and it is not appropriate now. i think calling for training for mps, which might sound ludicrous, but that might be necessary because professional boundaries have not been respected. some mandatory boundaries to bring all mps some mandatory boundaries to bring allmps up to some mandatory boundaries to bring all mps up to speak about what is a cce pta ble all mps up to speak about what is acceptable levels of behaviour would not go amiss in parliament. it is interesting you think that is required. i wish it was not required, but we have been here before, we were here in 2014 with that channel 4 investigation and it does not appear that behaviour has changed all that much, so let's make sure that mps know what the boundaries are. i wish it was not necessary , boundaries are. i wish it was not necessary, but i think it is and i think parliament is in a particular position, both because we should be a beacon of best practice rather than worse, and because of the almost unique employment structure here where mps are the direct employers of their own staff and we should be looking at other models. in the european parliament it used to be the case, i am not sure if it still is, that any members of the european parliament set up structures to be the former employers, so there is a buffer between the elected representative and the people working for them so all of the human resources capacity was already manifested there, you did not have to bring a complaint about an did not have to bring a complaint aboutan mp did not have to bring a complaint about an mp to an mp. have you ever been sexually harassed during your political career? i have not, no. but i know plenty of people who have. thank you for talking to us, caroline lucas. thank you for talking to us, caroline lucas. katy balls from the spectator is here with me now — for those of you that don't know the magazine — it's generally supportive of the conservative party. you were holding your parliamentary awards last night and the prime minister could not be there because of michael fallon's resignation at seven o'clock. everyone was obsessed about that and quite rightly. seven o'clock. everyone was obsessed about that and quite rightlym seven o'clock. everyone was obsessed about that and quite rightly. it was interesting as the news broke at the beginning of the wood awards that he was stepping down. the reaction was one of sadness but understanding why it had come to be. why sadness? sadness at the state of politics. not necessarily because of him? no. in layman's terms how destabilising is it for the prime minister to lose somebody like michael fallon, a key ally, a friend, very stable, solid and loyal? he was one of her most loyal cabinet members and she is in shock that short supply with them these days. obviously this was a resignation. it looks like it was somewhere in the middle, but if you look at the other people there are people like anna soubry and nicky morgan, former ministers, and in terms of this one it will not cause her as many problems as previous ones. norman smith, our assistant political editor was saying earlier that the problem is because of where the benchmark is now for a resignation, then you could see other chunks of the government as he put it falling off. is that a real possibility? i think there are a few people who think there could be more resignations. there is an argument in the party that rather than just replacing the defence secretary this is an opportunity for theresa may to do much muted cabinet reshuffle and ta ke do much muted cabinet reshuffle and take decisive action to clean up the cabinet. it will be a lot more embarrassing if you drop these people off one by one as more allegations come out. which is what ruth davidson were saying, a senior conservative politician in scotland, it is time to clean up the stable. she set it at your event. she said it at the event and what was a cce pta ble it at the event and what was acceptable in the past is no longer there and we have a higher benchmark and that is important because politicians ultimately should be held to very high standards, they represent the nation.|j held to very high standards, they represent the nation. i do not know if ruth davidson was suggesting that theresa may sex people when there are stories about them. is that what she was saying? she would not sack them because there were allegations. with michael fallon he admitted he had done something and he said he had done something and he said he had behaved below the standards. i do not think the suggestion is anyone who is accused should go. with this spreadsheet that has been going around there are a lot of things going on like consensual, extramarital affairs to serious allegations and it is trying to work out what the most serious things are and focusing, rather than becoming the moral police. some comments here, if i can get those, bear with me... john e—mailed, please stop going onjust about the conservatives, what about other parties? i'm sorry about this but i wouldn't employ anyone other than family members. someone else says that many women have benefited from working the system. still to come: an exclusive report for this programme finds that some vulnerable patients are being seriously traumatised by unregulated counsellors and psychotherapists. for the first time since 2007, interest rates are expected to rise. we'll hear from homeowners and savers. time for the latest news — here's annita. the headlines now on bbc news. the defence secretary sir michael fallon has resigned following accusations of inappropropriate sexual behaviour. he said his conduct had fallen short of the high standards expected — he is the first politician to quit following wider claims of sexual harrassment at westminster. the prime minister must now appoint a new defence secretary. i have behaved in the past in a way that has occasionally been below the standards we require of the armed forces and i do not think it is right for me to go on as defence secretary, expecting the highest standards of our servicemen and women and failing to meet them myself. president trump has called for the death penalty for sayfullo saipov — the man accused of killing eight people in new york by driving at them with a truck. in a tweet, the president claimed saipov, who was shot and wounded by police at the scene, had asked to hang an islamic state flag in his hospital room. the state of new york has outlawed the death penalty, but that can be overruled by the us government for a federal crime such as this. interest rates could be about to rise for the first time in ten years. it's expected the bank of england will confirm the move later today. economists say it would mean the cost of some mortgages would go up, but savers should see better returns on their money. the bank of england says any rise would be ‘modest‘. victoria has more on this story in a few minutes time. there's been a sharp decline in the number of nurses and midwives from the european union wanting to work in the uk. the nursing and midwifery council says there was almost a 90% drop in new registrations for eu nurses comparing this year to last year. the department for health says a rise in training places will compensate for the fall. two men have been charged with negligence following the deaths of three soldiers during an sas selection march in the brecon beacons. craig roberts, edward maher and james dunsby were taking part in a 16—mile recruitment exercise on the hottest day of 2013. a coroner ruled they died from neglect. they said parts of the planning and conduct in the march was not fit for purpose. that's a summary of the latest news. thank you. vincent has tweeted, on the resignation of michael fallon, says, that was quick, there must be more to this. another says that he's only gone to the backbench. janine says, below the acceptable level of what is required by the armed forces ? what is required by the armed forces? no, by the whole of society. it is interesting to hear your views on what caroline lucas, the co—leader of the green party was saying, that there should be mandatory training for mps to end the culture of sexual harassment. tell us your own views. hugh is back with the sport... spurs beat the 12—time european champions real madrid for the first time in one of the best results in their history. england's dele alli scored twice in the 3—1win at wembley, which takes tottenham into the knockout stages of this season's competition. they'll be joined by manchester city. they beat napoli 4—2 in italy and there was history for striker sergio aguero who became the club's record goalscorer with his 178th goal for city. liverpool aren't into the last 16 just yet. they beat maribor 3—0 at anfield to stay top of group e. and the houston astros have won baseball's world series for the first time in their history, beating the la dodgers 5—1 overnight in the series decider. they dedicated the win to those affected by hurricane harvey. that's some of the sport, i'll be back with more just after ten o'clock. thank you. it's just gone 9:30am. the need for mental health services has never been greater. talking therapists like counsellors and psychotherapists are the people many of us turn to when we're at our lowest emotional ebb, yet there are concerns over how the industry is regulated. as the government launches its consultation paper on the issue, our correspondentjune kelly has been investigating what happens when things go wrong. sojune, who are these people who offer this sort of help and what sort of rules are they bound by? first of all, they are psychiatrists, —— there are psychiatrists, —— there are psychiatrists who are medically qualified and are under the council. if you made a complaint, they can arrange penalties and the most severe of which is that they are struck off. psychologists are also legally regulated by the health and ca re legally regulated by the health and care professions council. then you have thousands more councillors and psychotherapists. you could be referred to one of those by your gp or sometimes go privately, pay—out of your own pocket. these people are not subject to statutory regulation. many are members of organisations, one of the largest is the british association for counselling and psychotherapy but they are not legally regulated. if you see a or psychotherapist who is not on the register but a member of one of those organisations you have mentioned and you want to make a complaint about them, what happens? you make the complaint and it is heard by a panel. if it is upheld they can apply penalties, they cut through the person out of the organisation but even if they are thrown out they can continue to practice as they are not breaking the law. bright, so they can set up, rebrand and carry on? exactly. you have spoken to one person who ended up have spoken to one person who ended up in an absolutely terrible state because they were subjected to harmful counselling. yes, that we are calling this lady, marie, and she was subjected to sexual abuse throughout her childhood and into her teens. in her 40s, she went and sought help from therapists as people are told to do. she had three female therapists who, in some sessions, she saw all of them all together which is very unorthodox. she was traumatised by the whole experience and it cost her more than £30,000. here, we have her story. well, i was sexually abused, quite, you know, extensively, extreme, from age nine through to about 18 and as a result of that i ended up seeking therapy in my later years. so the therapist that you saw, when you started seeing them, did you think, these women know what they're doing? yes. they were saying all the right things. the identification of how you feel and, you know, because it is such a complex area. and when did you start to become concerned ? the sessions were, i can only describe it as horrific. the main therapist didn't bother to check out any of my history, so she knew nothing about me. she knew nothing about the abuse in any shape orform. there was three of them. there was the therapist sat directly in front of me, so close in my face, and the other two at the side of me. i wasn't allowed to cross my legs, so every time i crossed my legs, the therapist would knock them back over. this went on for about ten minutes and then she actually got hold of me, holding my arms, started breathing in my face, looking in my eyes. she was so close, it was very, very intimidating, body space being invaded. anything to do with breathing, i've got, you know, such a reaction to it because it reminds me of sexual assaults when i was younger. i was getting very, very distressed and feeling very sick, very ill, shaking, and it's at that point they actually brought a sick bowl in because i was so distressed and traumatised. i was asked by the therapist if i wanted to be given a bath by all three as a way of showing nurturing towards me. it's beyond words. i was in a place of terror. but when you went back after the first session... yes. ..despite what they'd done to you, is that an indication of how fragile you were? that you still went back, even though they'd done dreadful things to you? yes. i mean, you go back, you know? it wasn't to say i wasn't feeling alarm bells, something's not quite right, but i had no recollection at that point of the severity of what they'd actually done. and on that point you made complaints against all of them, all three of them? idid, yes. i did e—mail one of the therapists to establish what type of therapy, what type of modality have you used on me that's left me feeling so traumatised ? i then put, through the help of a professional therapist and her supervisor, an e—mail together starting to ask questions. you know, who are you registered with? i actually included all three complaints to all three organisations, so they were all fully aware that all three were being complaint against. and what was the outcome of those complaints? initially the therapist said that i was on a vengeful rage. they ran the hearing with four out of five of the allegations upheld into the next hearing. i had to present my own case, question the therapist. it's a very, very intense situation. it was heartening that i'd been believed in its entirety. sadly for me, that organisation hadn't followed it's fitness to practise procedures in the hearing. therefore the therapist appealed and a separate hearing was held without me there and six months later and the suspension was withdrawn. so all these three women then continue to practice? yes, yep. it is appalling. it's disgraceful. it's... they've caused me so much harm and yet any sanction or any... it just wasn't there because the sanctions they give, it's just like a slap on the wrist and yet they've come along, you know, really messed up somebody‘s life and then just gone. and you wouldn't want anybody else to go through it? no, absolutely not. you know, most therapists are ethical, but for the ones that aren't and there's quite a few out there, there's no deterrent. i think it would break most people and, you know, they've been broken once, that's why they're going to therapy. it's heartbreaking to imagine that they could end up in a situation thatjust puts further harm on to the harm they've already had through no fault of their own. so, how do you know if you can trust your therapist? here to discuss whether there needs to be better regulation of the therapy industry is marjorie wallace from sane, ben bradshaw mp who sits on the commons health committee, and gary fereday, the chief executive of the british psychoanalytic council. your reaction to that story first of all? it's absolutely horrific, obviously. but my reaction is, we find that you do not have too have such extreme damage. therapies have side effects, like medication. some of them are healing and sometimes they can do damage, much more subtle than that. they can divide families and makea than that. they can divide families and make a person turn against the people caring for them. that is an awful case but we come across something that takes a longer time to unravel. there is very little recourse. we will come to that, and ben bradshaw, what about you? that interview will you did with june kelly earlier on and that sums up why it is time to regulate these areas properly. statutory regulation, i do not think the current system is working. i've had a distressing case in my own constituency which is howl originally got involved. the government hates regulating and more regulation but we have learned mps need regulating, the bbc needs regulating, all big organisations and professions need independent regulation to be healthy. gary, what is the point of your organisation, ? hull what i have seen there is appalling, it's incredibly unorthodox. how do you regulate them? we have a public register and maintain set standards of ethical codes. how many are registered with you? we have a niche body, there are only about 1500 of us, we are quite a small body. what checks do you make on them before they register? everybody has to go through one of ourtrainings, everybody has to go through one of our trainings, which is highly regarded. hubei? within the wider mental health field, many of our leading registers are senior academic posts in leading universities. it is an evidence —based form of psychotherapy. universities. it is an evidence -based form of psychotherapy. how much do they pay you to be on your register? about £250 per year to be on our register. under what circumstances would you not renew a registration, or would you strike them off the register? that case i've just seen, without knowing all of the details, it seems an absolute case for striking someone off without doubt but we can apply a range of sanctions and, as marjorie was saying, some of these issues are more subtle. sometimes asking someone more subtle. sometimes asking someone to do more subtle. sometimes asking someone to do more more subtle. sometimes asking someone to do more training or have increased supervision. how many have you removed from your register?m re ce nt you removed from your register?m recent years we've had two complete re movals recent years we've had two complete removals and there are a range of other people. have they rebranded and set up again? i'm not entirely certain in those two cases. they could do, that is the point? absolutely, it's a real problem in the profession. but aren't you part of the problem? there are so many organisations like you where people can pay 250 quid to be on your register. and, you know, they could be doing all sorts to patients. they could be. are you not part of the problem? we are now collaborating and trying to set some clearer boundaries and there are some real issues on definition on what is psychotherapy. what is the point of view if someone you think is damaging the page and come you can clear them off your register and they can go somewhere else and start ain? they can go somewhere else and start again? they could do, but if we could collaborate more closely with other bodies and work more closely with the government, which we have done... they can rebrand again whether you collaborate or not. they can and we recognise that. that is for the government to do. you would welcome it? we would look at it with real interest because it is a complicated issue. it does not sound it. the complexity is what is counsellor and what is a psychotherapist? there are some real great areas. that is not to say we are against statutory regulation, but it needs thought and we would welcome the opportunity to work closer with the government to get it right. marjorie, what needs to change? we need to have statutory regulation, but you have got about 60,000 odd therapists and they ruled themselves which is a problem. it is like a random crowd with different agendas, needs, skills and outcomes and it is very hard to measure success. and it is very hard to measure su ccess . su ccess and it is very hard to measure success. success could be one person getting out of bed and going to the shop, or a person has turned their life over. if you are physically ill, you can measure whether you get better. if you are mentally disturbed, it is hard to measure the success , disturbed, it is hard to measure the success, so different bodies have different ideas of what is success and failure. but what we ought to be able to do is to be able to have some way that, not the bodies themselves, if it is one skill or one psychodynamic, it is not them who should be registering them, it should be somebody else above them monitoring what is going on. legislation is not necessarily a pa na cea , legislation is not necessarily a panacea, but why do you think it would read the sector, the industry, of the rogue therapists? because of all the arguments we have heard. to be fairto gary, all the arguments we have heard. to be fair to gary, his organisation is a good one and they are doing what they can, but marjorie has highlighted some of the challengers. it is highlighted some of the challengers. itisl highlighted some of the challengers. it is i diverse sector, it is huge, there are different types of therapies and counsellors and they believe in different things. regulation would be expensive and would cost money, statutory regulation always costs money, but we have learned in our country regulation is important and you have to pay for it if you wa nt want the patients and the public to have confidence that when they see someone have confidence that when they see someone they will get good treatment. if they do not there is a proper complaints process and action can be taken. this is a revolving door in my own constituent's case, this therapist was struck off and they continued operating. at the moment i do not think the powers are significant enough. the government wants to regulate less, but in this area where people are so vulnerable and where they see a psychotherapist ora and where they see a psychotherapist or a counsellor, they are in particular need to have confidence in the system they are involved in and that it is safe. thank you for coming on the programme. coming up. as new figures are released of children referred to social services, we'll be talking to people who've had positive experiences of the system. some positive stories about social workers. some positive stories about social workers. we've become used to cheap borrowing and poor returns on savings. that's because the bank of england — which sets interest rates — hasn't put them up for ten years. that's expected to change today, with rates likely to increase from their historic low of 0.25%. so what does it mean? in short, a rate rise is good for savers, but bad for borrowers. so if you're not on a fixed rate mortgage, you might well see your payments go up, but if you've got savings — expect a little bit more coming back to you in your interest payments. now before we talk to our guests — have a think back to where you were when interest rates last went up. one of the first things you'll notice about the iphone is its simple design. with us in the studio is a bronwyn curtis, an economist who can explain what the members of the mpc will be thinking, and via skype let's talk to a couple of viewers — carole who has savings. hello, how are these decisions made? there are nine members of the monetary policy committee and some of them worked at the bank of england and some are external members and each of them has an individual vote. last month they voted 7—2 against raising rates, or making any changes to monetary policy. but the bank of england governor, mark carney, has been signalling, and other members of the committee have been signalling that perhaps it is time to take the foot a little bit off the accelerator. they are not saying they are taking it up completely, butjust to put rates up a little bit. what do they ta ke rates up a little bit. what do they take into account before making their decision? what areas of the economy are they looking at? the main thing is they have a target for inflation, 2%. they have not met it. it was 1% a year ago and now it is up it was 1% a year ago and now it is up to 3% mostly because the pound has dropped and the goods we are importing like cheese or olives, i'm much more expensive. it has risen to 396 much more expensive. it has risen to 3% and it is still rising. but they look at the target over the longer term, so that is not the big issue. unemployment is at a 40 year low and they put in place an emergency rate cut of 0.25% just after the brexit referendum because they were worried that spending might collapse, people might be so worried. that did not happen, whether it was because of the rate cut or it was not going to happen anyway we are not sure. i think they think it is time to take a little bit of that easing, or that acceleration of monetary policy, out of the system. i agree. let me bring in carol. you are savoured. you would like to see interest rates go up would like to see interest rates go upiam would like to see interest rates go up i am assuming? i do not want to put that in your mind. definitely and my daughter is saving for a house and she would like interest rates to go up, i definitely want them to go up. what difference would that make to you? it would not make a huge difference because i do not think they are going up hugely, but it would be a little bit extra on the savings we have got. i am still working and everything, but i also think it would help encourage people to save something. my other children do not see the point in saving at the moment because they do not get anything on their money when they put it away. you may as well put it under your pillow because rates are so low. but as an economist, bronwyn curtis, if they put the interest rates up to 0.5%, what difference does it make? does that really encourage people to save more and? does that slow inflation? it sends a message to start with. ten years ago when they cut rates we were facing a situation globally of perhaps deviation and prices falling and recession and so on. that is not happening. in terms of the impact, any increase in rates have some impact. but 90% of new mortgages are on fixed rate and across the whole of the housing stock, so in all of the mortgages it isjust under 60%. it will have an effect but not that much. if you are on a tracker rate ora much. if you are on a tracker rate or a standard variable only then will you be affected if they go up today? unless they decide it is not just one rate hike and they might do more in the future and there is talk of one earlier next year. but it is not like other cycles. the world is not like other cycles. the world is not like other cycles. the world is not like it was before the financial crisis. in the past they would have put rates up several times in quick succession to dampen inflation and to get back to their target. no one is expecting that this time. so you said you think it is time for them to go up. why do you think that? when we look at what has been happening all the benefits of low rates have pushed in. the economy is 0k, it is rates have pushed in. the economy is ok, it is not fantastic, it is ok. and we have seen money instead of going into savings and such, they have been going into houses and we have been going into houses and we have seen money going into houses and house prices are overvalued, stock markets are overvalued and save rs stock markets are overvalued and savers have been putting their money into more risky things to get the return they want. we are at the point where some of the negative impact is greater than the benefits. taking a little bit back now is probably the right thing to do. carroll, thank you very much. you will hear the news on bbc news at midday. if you have a mortgage, something like 150,000 lower, if it goes at a quarter of a percent you will be paying between £20 and £40 extra a month. that will affect some of you absolutely. let me know your views. news and sport at ten o'clock, before that coming here is the weather. we have had a whole range of temperatures this morning and we have a weather front heading south and under that it has been cloudy and under that it has been cloudy and we have had patchy rain. as well as that, we have also got some fog in the forecast in dumfries and galloway and in the southern counties. it should clear in the next hour or so. we have also had some beautiful blue skies and a hole in the cloud in wales led to that. it is sinking southwards, taking the rain with it, and behind it are brighter conditions. much drier in northern ireland, scotland and northern england. it will not feel as warm as it did yesterday. meanwhile, the weather front moves south and it will lift the fog. we are looking at a bright afternoon rather than a sunny one. as you head towards the south coast, there will be some sunny spells in the forecast. it is the same in southern counties generally. it will be bright rather than sunny. this weather front produces thicker cloud with the odd spot of rain, but further north the sun comes out. for scotla nd further north the sun comes out. for scotland we are looking at a maximum of eight or nine. in the north east yesterday they reached 15. for northern ireland it is brightening up northern ireland it is brightening up all the time, belfast getting up to about 11. south wales is still under the influence of the weather front, but sunshine will come out in north wales. overnight the weather front north wales. overnight the weather fro nt m oves north wales. overnight the weather front moves a little bit further north, taking some patchy rain with it. by the end of the night we have got the next weather front coming in across north—west scotland. tomorrow that will bring in some rain with strengthening winds. the fog will lift through the course of the morning and foremost it will be a largely dry day through daylight hours. later in the day we will see more rain sweep in from the south—west and that will move north eastwards and join the weather front coming south. saturday morning will be quite wet with this band of rain continuing to slowly edged towards the east. the time of this might change, so keep in touch with the forecast. it will also be a blustery day with showers from the west and that leads into sunday. a ridge of high pressure built in and things will settle down and it will be a dry end to the day. thank you so much, carol. hello, it's thursday 2nd november, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. defence secretary sir michael fallon resigns as allegations of sexual harassment and abuse at westminster continue to build, including a leaked dossier of allegations against dozens of mps. conservative mp michael fabricant was among them. they told me i was on this list. i was incredulous. i looked over the list of wrongdoings, i did not have the names of the mps at that stage, i could not recognise anything that could have had anything remotely to do with me. the following day, somebody sent me, because they found it on twitter which is the problem, the unredacted list. what did it say about me? but i had been inappropriate with a male journalist inappropriate with a male journalist ina taxi. inappropriate with a male journalist in a taxi. —— that i had been inappropriate. we'll bring you the latest on the fallout. caroline lucas says that mandatory training should be introduced to get rid of the culture. your thoughts on that welcome. the number of eu nurses registering to work in britain has dropped by almost 90% since the brexit vote. so what can be done to make sure nurses aren't put off working here? we'll speak to one nurse from spain who's been here for over 17 years and now says his future is uncertain. the "black death" plague that's killed over 100 people and infected more than 1,000 in madagscar — nine countries have issued plague warnings as fears the disease will spread by air. we'll speak to people there. let's have a look at the latest news. here's annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. the defence secretary sir michael fallon has resigned following accusations of inappropriate sexual behaviour. he said his conduct had fallen short of the high standards expected — he is the first politician to quit following wider claims of sexual harrassment at westminster. talking to this programme, the green party co—leader caroline lucas says more drastic action is needed... we need to change the culture. one of the things that really struck me about what michael fallon said was that some of this behaviour might have been appropriate ten years ago. well, no it wasn't. it wasn't then and it certainly is not now. that's why i've been calling as well for some training for an', it sounds ludicrous that that is necessary but we have seen so ludicrous that that is necessary but we have seen so many cases ludicrous that that is necessary but we have seen so many cases where professional boundaries have not been respected that some kind of mandatory training to bring all mps up mandatory training to bring all mps up to speed with what is unacceptable up to speed with what is u na cce pta ble level of up to speed with what is unacceptable level of behaviour will not go amiss in parliament. president trump has called for the death penalty for sayfullo saipov — the man accused of killing eight people in new york by driving at them with a truck. in a tweet, the president claimed saipov, who was shot and wounded by police at the scene, had asked to hang an islamic state flag in his hospital room. the state of new york has outlawed the death penalty, but that can be overruled by the us government for a federal crime such as this. meanwhile, saipov — a 29—year—old originally from uzbekistan who's been living legally in the us for seven years — has been charged with terrorism offences. law enforcement officials have been giving reporters more details about him: saipov allegedly admitted that he was inspired to commit the attack by the isis videos he watched, and had been planning this attack for two months. there's been a sharp decline in the number of nurses and midwives from the european union wanting to work in the uk. the nursing and midwifery council says there was almost a 90% drop in new registrations for eu nurses comparing this year to last year. the department for health says a rise in training places will compensate for the fall. two men have been charged with negligence following the deaths of three soldiers in the brecon beacons during an sas selection march. craig roberts, edward maher and james dunsby were taking part in a 16—mile recruitment exercise on the hottest day of 2013. all had suffered from hyperthermia and a coroner ruled they died from neglect. interest rates could be about to rise for the first time in ten years. it's expected the bank of england will confirm the move later today. economists say it would mean the cost of some mortgages would go up, but savers should see better returns on their money. the bank of england says any rise would be ‘modest‘. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. a couple of comments from you on various subjects on the programme today. on therapists and their regulation, martin tweeted that as a professional psychotherapist he's called for statutory regulation for over 20 years but the government doesn't seem to want it. gail said today that she only found out about nonregulation of therapists through the programme, and someone else said that the story is terrifying and they look forward to for regulation. caroline lucas said that there should be mandatory training for an' to get rid of the sexual harassment culture at westminster —— training for nps. someone says, if you do not know how to conduct yourself, you should not be in office. someone else said that it's a ridiculous idea but karen says listening to these recommendations that mps need training, she believes it should be implemented and should be part of all company inductions in public and private sectors. i agree that the boundaries do need to be clearly set out. if you are getting in touch, send us a tweet on twitter, use the hashtag victoria live. if you text, we will have two charge. sorry about that. let's have a look at the sport... we are reflecting on a fantastic night for tottenham whose wembley hoo—doo is well and truly over. they beat the champions league holders real madrid for the first time in their history with a dominant 3—1 victory. two goals came from england's dele alli, with christian eriksen sealing the win with the third. mauricio pochettino's side have now reached the last 16 with two games to spare. yes, of course, so happy. very pleased for the performance, the performance was fantastic. i think it's an important victory, victory for the club, for the fans, for the players, for everyone. i think, yes, so happy after tonight. he could barely control his excitement there. it was a night of history for manchester city's sergio aguero who broke the club's goal—scoring record to also put them through to the knock—out stages of the champions league. he scored his 178th goal for city, in a 4—2 win at napoli. when one guy achieves what he has achieved, so it'sjust a big congratulations. for all his team—mates he played with, managers, it's big news for him, so he's a legend. for the club, for the history, and enjoy it, so everybody has to be so proud of him. the perfect english night in europe was completed by liverpool who were just too good for maribor. after a goalless first half, mohamad salah opened the scoring with a neat finish off his knee. and daniel sturridge made it 3—0 right at the end to keep liverpool top of their group. andy murray will drop out of the world's top ten for the first time in three years when the new rankings are released next monday. rafael nadal will end the year as world number one. at the paris masters, jack sock ended kyle edmund's season. the british number three served for the match twice, but lost two tie—breaks to go down in three sets. some news from australia, where england's cricketers are preparing for their first ashes warm—up match. steven finn and moeen ali are injured and won't feature in the game against the western australia 11 in perth which starts on saturday. the houston astros have won baseball's world series for the first time, beating the la dodgers 5—1 in the deciding game. astros‘ george springer was awarded mvp after he became the first player to hit home runs in four successive world series games, helping them to a 4—3 triumph. they said they'd won it for the people of houston. afterwards, the players dedicated the win to the people of houston affected by hurricane harvey a few months ago. my my mum was born in 1962. before she was born, the franchise was formed. this is our first was born, the franchise was formed. this is ourfirst championship, it's been 55 years that we've been waiting! i cannot believe it is over. i... ijust can't. we deserve it. we've gone through a really hard time in houston but more importantly these guys have worked really hard and they are bringing it home to houston! plenty of celebrations there over the coming days. more coming up later on. in the next few minutes, we are expecting to find out who the next defence secretary will be. sir michael fallon resigned following accusations of inappropriate sexual behaviour. he stood down after it was revealed he had repeatedly put his hand on a journalist's knee during a dinner in 2002. he said himself, he apologised, and he said that his behaviour had not met the required standards in the past. norman smith is that the ministry of defence in whitehall. hello, there. hello, we are waiting for the new secretary of state to arrive, we are told he will shake hands at the ministry of defence. you get the sense that downing street are moving quickly, this departure of michael fallon has created an element of the wobbles as he is one of the mainstays of the cabinet. a long serving minister with bags of experience. providing a degree of stability. his departure matters big time number 10 will want to fill that post quickly. of course, too, his departure now to some extent raises the bar pretty high for other ministers because sir michael fallon said that he felt he had to go because incidents in the past, ten or 15 years ago which were thought we re or 15 years ago which were thought were ok then are not ok now. the standard is pretty high for other ministers he could face similar allegations and all of this is at a time where we know that theresa may's premiership is a bit fragile. the government is being battered by brexit and it is a very difficult time for ministers. the name of the game is to move quickly, try and get some stability back into the cabinet and try and get on top of the current controversy whirling around westminster over the sexual harassment claims where interestingly we heard from ruth davidson, the leader of the scottish tories last night saying, look, there has to be more house clearing, we've got to clear out the stables, and this morning, the former cabinet minister iain duncan smith said theresa may needed to rule with a rod of iron and not tolerate other indiscretions. have a listen... i am told categorically that she was, how can i put it, very clear when she spoke to the cabinet about what she plans to do and what she wants to do. i think that clarity leaves various members of the cabinet and of the party generally to recognise whatever limitations there were about their behaviour in the past and to decide whether or not they met the standards. clearly michael fallon felt that was not the case. he took therefore a decision to resign, but i think the key element is not so much on michael fallon's decision, but it is the reason for that decision and that reason was that theresa may has made it very clear, i know for a fact she feels very strongly about this, that we have to lead in parliament on this so that others themselves recognise that they have to put their own houses in order. iam i am casting my eyes along the street, i still cannot see the new secretary of state, we may have to wait a bit longer but i think we know that it is probably going to be a promotion into the cabinet as number 10 say that theresa may does not want to start a major reshuffle by moving people around inside of the cabinet. there will probably be a promotion into the cabinet. one temptation may be to promote the first female defence secretary which may be seen as a smart first female defence secretary which may be seen as a smart move first female defence secretary which may be seen as a smart move in this current climate. wanted that, just a little too of rory stewart, a foreign office minister going the cabinet office earlier, and he has a defence background, could he be the new defence secretary? we will see. as soon as you new defence secretary? we will see. as soon as you see new defence secretary? we will see. as soon as you see them, we will be straight back to you! thank you. sam coates is the deputy political editor at the times newspaper. pippa crerar, political journalist at the london evening standard. sam, had you seen a resignation like this in recent times? know, speaking to tory mps last night and this morning, what has shocked and surprised them and even worried some of them was the way that michael fallon has gone in contrast to most of the other resignations that i've seen of the other resignations that i've seenin of the other resignations that i've seen in my entire political career, not due to one specific incident but because he was worried something might come out, he claims he doesn't know what it might be, but he sets the bar so low that he worries that there may be further stories about his conduct in the past where he has upset female journalists. and his conduct in the past where he has upset femalejournalists. and it his conduct in the past where he has upset female journalists. and it is better to go now rather than face the prospect that somebody else could come out and go public. it is a hell of a test for the government and tory mps, and of all parties. you are essentially saying, is there anything in my background that could be construed, in any way? i think it is that uncertainty that it creates. iain duncan smith almost seems to be suggesting that there could be more people to go from the cabinet. number 10 people to go from the cabinet. number10 are people to go from the cabinet. number 10 are worried that other people may have to go further destabilising the party at this time. we are in very uncertain times. and pepper, are you expecting more resignations from the cabinet? ruth davidson, a senior conservative female politician, last night said it was time to do more house cleaning? there are obviously other individuals in the government, not just at the cabinet level, they have investigated their past behaviour is and they are being examined by government, by theresa may, to establish whether they have crossed a line. it is such uncertain times, there is all sorts of stuff coming out of the woodwork and i would be very surprised if this was the end of it. we are all anticipating more revelations over the coming days and whether that is at a cabinet level or ministerial, there will be an' across the board really quite uncertain as to what the day will hold —— mps. uncertain as to what the day will hold -- mps. what does it mean practically, what ruth davidson suggested? she seems to be leading into the idea that we need a clear out from the top down. let's look at what a bigger cabinet reshuffle would look like. we are dealing with possibly one of the weakest governments of my lifetime. after theresa may failed to win an overall majority in the election that she did not need to call, she faces the most difficult task a government has faced with a party that is com pletely faced with a party that is completely divided. it isn't easy. there are divisions throughout her party over brexit and in three weeks' time the government has to deliver the most confiscated budget we have seen without a parliamentary majority and with no money. any kind of move to shuffle the people at the top table will further cause instability and make it harder to deal with the kind of rough and tumble the politics of the moment will inevitably cause. so, given how fragile it is, i'm loathe to make firm predictions but it doesn't feel good at the moment. looking at all of the challenges facing this government. there is that cabinet office investigation into damian green, a long—standing friend, university college, etc. how does theresa may get a college, etc. how does theresa may geta grip college, etc. how does theresa may get a grip on this? it is difficult to do and in many ways it is out of her control. these are incidents which have been talked about which go back a long time and involve a substantial handful of politicians and she has no control as to whether they are going to try and come out in advance of any scandal emerging about their past, or whether they are going to be unveiled by women or other journalists that are going to be unveiled by women or otherjournalists that have been on the receiving end of some of this inappropriate behaviour in the past. it is very difficult for her to try and geta it is very difficult for her to try and get a grip on it. the width's office and her chief of staff and his team at number ten are trying very ha rd his team at number ten are trying very hard to ascertain the full extent of this. the reality is none of us really know. ijoined the lobby in westminster in 2001 and over those years i have heard so many stories, experienced some of that inappropriate behaviour myself, and people in the current climate are feeling emboldened to share some of those experiences that previously they would not have done. can i ask a brief final question and it is a broader look at society. you used the phrase the bar has been set so low because of the resignation of michael fallon for repeatedly placing his hand on a female journalist's me 15 years ago and for saying there may be other things in his past. would anyone else in any other walk of society have to step down for anything similar? the difference between westminster and mps and every other walk of life is that you have in most cases a conventional boss. if you did something inappropriate in the workplace that stopped short of criminal behaviour but nevertheless could bejudged criminal behaviour but nevertheless could be judged inappropriate criminal behaviour but nevertheless could bejudged inappropriate with you continuing in thatjob, you would be out on your ear. that is not an option at westminster because mps are answerable to their constituents. if they do something thatis constituents. if they do something that is less than criminal, they are ina grey that is less than criminal, they are in a grey area and effectively they can get away with it. that is the problem we have to tackle and that is what they are looking at at the moment and that needs to be addressed and it is the thing that distinguishes westminster from everywhere else. thank you both very much. you know that thing where you say any minute now we can reveal the new defence secretary because they will be walking up whitehall, it has not happened yet, but as soon as we see the new secretary of state for defence what it at that very pavement right there,. still to come: we'll speak to people in madagascar where a "black death" plague has killed over a hundred people. it has infected more than a thousand so it has infected more than a thousand so far. it has infected more than a thousand so far. it's a job many say they choose because of a genuine care and desire to help children get the best start they can in life, but many social workers say they‘ re constantly vilified and criticised for their work. latest statistics show... just under 400,000 children are in need of care, a slight drop, at the crease of 1.3%. that is good news, however, the number of children on the subject of child protection plans has increased slightly to 51,000, a rise of 1.5% over the past year. we're going to bring you some positive stories now about social workers and the transformation they can bring to children's lives. let's talk now to ian thomas who says his social worker steve saved his life, david akinsanya whose social workerjenni helped him through his teenager years into adulthood, and maris stratulis is a managerfrom the british association of social workers. she says people recognise the contrubutions made by firefighters and police officers, but not social workers. welcome all of you. i want to start with ian in our birmingham studio. tell us how old you were when you first came into contact with your social worker steve. i entered the ca re system social worker steve. i entered the care system at nine years old and i was 13 when steve came to be my social worker. he was working for the local authority. by this point i was being fostered by an independent fostering agency called foster care associates, so my circumstances had changed. what made my experience with steve was that he was interesting and interested in me and i felt valued interesting and interested in me and ifelt valued in his company interesting and interested in me and i felt valued in his company and thatis i felt valued in his company and that is what i needed, somebody who plays value on me and responded to me, not react to my behaviour. and he helped you in particular when you had a real problem with drugs. he helped you in particular when you had a real problem with drugslj would not say at that point in my life, no. when i left care i ended up life, no. when i left care i ended up in prison and was in portland young offenders institution and he visited me and we made contact again a further down the line when i sorted myself out. my addiction had not taken off entirely at the point steve was my social worker. are you still in touch with him? yes, frequently. i spoke to him this morning to ask him if we could put the picture on air and he said yes. and how important is that to you, the fact you still have that contact with him? it is really important because it helps me remember the experiences i had when i was a young person because they were so much change, it was a very reactive situation. it is someone who can help you reflect on how far you have come. we spend christmas together and he supports me. i am a university student studying social work at birmingham city university. although there is a very dedicated teaching team there, it is good to have somebody currently in practice to support me getting my head around the information so i can write my assignments. we often laugh about how i am assignments. we often laugh about howiama assignments. we often laugh about how i am a social work student and he is teaching me about the interventions are used on me as a child. david, how did you first come into co nta ct child. david, how did you first come into contact with your social worker jenny? i was eight years old and jenny? i was eight years old and jenny was a brand—new social worker andl jenny was a brand—new social worker and i was one of the caseloads in the files she was given on that day. she stayed with the officially until i was 14 she stayed with the officially until iwas 14 and she stayed with the officially until i was 14 and then she applied to be my social aunt. a social aunt? it is old—fashioned. my social aunt. a social aunt? it is old-fashioned. that was the official term? yes, at the time. why did she do that and what did that mean to you? i think she did it because i did not have anybody. at that stage in my life i had no contact with my family. it was literally a case of what do we do with david at christmas? she would buy me a nice present and make me feel wanted and loved and all those sorts of things. then i went to prison when i was 18. there was nobody for me when i came out and jenny made sure i kept my flat. she gave me £5 to go to interviews and do my washing and give me bags of food, any thing a pa re nt give me bags of food, any thing a parent would do for somebody. despite her care towards you and wanting to look after you, you still went to prison at 18, that is despite what she did for you? to be honest with you when i was in the ca re honest with you when i was in the care system most boys left the care syste m care system most boys left the care system and went through the penal system. that was not unusual. the good thing was that when i came out she was there to show me a clear path in my life. she encouraged me to get involved in the politics of social work so i could represent other kids in care and she has been there for me ever since i was eight years old. i will not say how old i am now, but it is a long time. how old are you now? i cannot tell you. 50—something. old are you now? i cannot tell you. 50-something. you look incredible! that is why i did not want to tell you. as a manager why do you think social workers' positive work is not focused on in this country? sadly the media in particular play a role on it in terms of focusing on the negatives. what is brilliant today it is about the celebration of social work and hearing the stories from ian and david which are replicated day after day across this nation. it is important the value of social work and the contribution they make to people's lives is recognised. it is about humanity, kindness and the social worker sticking with people all the way through the difficult times, through the tough times and celebrating the great times. what is really important to get across is the relationship and the direct contact with people, whether that is vulnerable, older person in the community, whether it is a young person in the care system, it is about seeing that person regularly, caring about the holistic needs, the health needs, the well—being needs, getting two kids to school on time and supporting somebody in a crisis and supporting somebody in a crisis and speaking to somebody on that day. if those social workers were not doing that role for people like david and ian, how much worse off would we be as a society? a lot worse off because these are people who stick with people through difficult times. there is a role and place for organisations and the public sector like the police, the fire, the ambulance service, the nhs, but this is another important emergency response and a sustainable service that supports people in crisis and are difficult times in their lives. on a par with police officers and firefighters? absolutely. we do not wear a uniform but we are out there every single day and it is about recognising those differences. if we do not get social services right and do not ta ke social services right and do not take care of these children, there will be a lot more problems with society. since sure start has been wound down, there has been a lot more difficulty for family is not getting the help they need. if people were not supported by social workers, i could not imagine what it would be like. ian, it is impossible to know because steve was there for you. you must have considered what your life might have been like if he had not stuck by you. he left the local authority to go and work in mental health and i got a different social worker and we crossed paths when i was locked up and he came to see me and i had other social work intervention to get me into a treatment centre and i got residential rehab and got clean. i spent over three years of my life behind prison doors and i did lots of different prisons in the south of england and the government statistics 827% of the 80,000 in prison at the time were looked after and it is £40,000 a year to look after people and we spent £980 million a year on that. social work intervention saved me from dying i believe because without that then i do not know if i would have got clea n do not know if i would have got clean and the assessments and help i needed. it is not the direct work with the people that makes the job so with the people that makes the job so challenging, it is the system around them. social workers are unsung heroes. david, say that again. you have the potential to be again. you have the potential to be a great social worker because of your life experiences and i am happy that you are going where you are going. we need to connect. it is also about celebrating the profession and we have the social worker of the year awards coming up soon worker of the year awards coming up soon and it is celebrating and embracing this profession because people are doing a really good job and it is about working in partnership with people in communities. let's promote this nationally. can i add to that? as a child and an adult and now studying it, i urge anyone to google the international definition of social work. at birmingham city university there are a dedicated team of teachers and there is a lot of hope at the moment. if you look at the profession and the essence of what it is, it is wow, the matter who you are, the humanitarian in new valuing people and empowering them and giving them life opportunities and keeping them safe is an amazing thing. most people do not know what social workers do, they only know what they should have done when it did not happen and bad news travels a very fast. i work for an amazing organisation and there is a lot of hope and we need to celebrate this morning. thank you, all of you. in the last half an hour, we will talk about the fact that european nurses and midwives are leaving the nhs in droves. there will be a shortage on the wards and we will be talking about that. we'll speak to a teacher who's won a tribunal after being sacked when she complained about children being shown images from 9/11 in the classroom... time for the latest news, here's annita. the headlines now on bbc news. the defence secretary sir michael fallon has resigned following accusations of inappropriate sexual behaviour. he said his conduct had fallen short of the high standards expected — he is the first politician to quit following wider claims of sexual harrassment at westminster... i have behaved in the past, clearly, ina way i have behaved in the past, clearly, in a way that has occasionally been below the standards that we require of the armed forces. and i don't think it is right for me to go on as defence secretary, expecting the very highest standards of our service men and women and failed to meet them myself. president trump has called for the death penalty for sayfullo saipov — the man accused of killing eight people in new york by driving at them with a truck. in a tweet, the president claimed saipov, who was shot and wounded by police at the scene, had asked to hang an islamic state flag in his hospital room. the state of new york has outlawed the death penalty, but that can be overruled by the us government for a federal crime such as this. interest rates could be about to rise for the first time in ten years. it's expected the bank of england will confirm the move later today. economists say it would mean the cost of some mortgages would go up, but savers should see better returns on their money. the bank of england says any rise would be ‘modest‘. there's been a sharp decline in the number of nurses and midwives from the eu wanting to work in the uk. the nursing and midwifery council said that there was a 90% drop in new registrations for eu nurses when comparing this year to last. the department of health says a rise in training places will compensate for the fall. two men have been charged over the deaths of three soldiers during an sas selection march in the brecon beacons. craig roberts, edward maher and james dunsby were taking part in a 16—mile recruitment exercise on the hottest day of 2013. a coroner ruled parts of the planning and conduct of the march were inadequate or not fit for purpose. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you very much. here's some sport now with hugh. spurs beat the 12—time european champions real madrid for the first time in one of the best results in their history. england's dele alli scored twice in the 3—1win at wembley which takes tottenham into the knockout stages of this season's competition. they'll be joined by manchester city. they beat napoli 4—2 in italy and there was history for striker sergio aguero who became the club's record goalscorer with his 178th goal for city. liverpool aren't into the last 16 just yet. they beat maribor 3—0 at anfield to stay top of group e. and the houston astros have won baseball's world series for the first time in their history, beating the la dodgers 5—1 overnight in the series decider. they dedicated the win to those affected by hurricane harvey. that's all the sport, i'm back with more at 11 o'clock. let's go straight over to norman at the ministry of defence, there is news ofa ministry of defence, there is news of a new defence secretary? you would have to break it to me, i don't have it... it is gavin williamson, np. ok, well, we are still waiting for him, if that is the right person to come along —— mp. that's an interesting choice, he is the chief whip to mrs may, her main enforcer in government, responsible for maintaining party discipline. i do not think, i may be wrong, they do not think he has a military background. elected in 2010, he came in with david cameron got what it does mean is that theresa may will have to find a new chief whip which is interesting as in the current climate, where there isa in the current climate, where there is a whole spate of allegations swirling around westminster when you have a government with a tiny majority, the role of chief whip is absolutely critical in just getting business through and getting brexit through. so, a surprising call in the sense that theresa may has now opened up another job the sense that theresa may has now opened up anotherjob which she will have to fill and an absolutely criticaljob. have to fill and an absolutely critical job. having williamson, very loyal to the prime minister and perhaps part of the thinking was stability within the cabinet, just to have someone who she can absolutely rely on in the current state of affairs, which might have been her thinking that we do now have to see who will move into that pivotal position, as i say, of chief whip. our camera is trained on a pavement, norman. i've no idea where you are in relation to it! i think you are in relation to it! i think you are in relation to it! i think you are still out the front of the mod...i you are still out the front of the mod... i think you are waiting, is that still the case? that you are waiting for him to walk up to the mod? yes, there are two ways it could happen. he could either walked up could happen. he could either walked up from downing street and along the steps where he will shake hands with the permanent secretary or it will bea car the permanent secretary or it will be a car moment, where he comes out of the car. the latest intelligence is he is coming from downing street which is across the road. we've been told he should be here, we've been told he should be here, we've been told this for some time, but he should be here. it will finesse who comes into his shoes as the chief whip. it is such an important appointment. and the speed of this new appointment, the defence secretary gavin williamson mp, theresa may has moved quickly? she had to, michael fallon's departure compounded the sense of wobble in the government following his departure. of course, there are fears that perhaps michael fallon will not be the only one to go, there are further allegations involving ministers and the bar has been set so low, could they possibly have to go? there's a need to move quickly to replace him. also, i think there's a desire to change the headlines, to move the focus onto the new person coming in to try and shift focus away from questions over how far this destabilises the government in any sort of way. what is absolutely true, the departure gives a sense of how this whole sleaze controversy is now overshadowing all life at westminster. it is totally dominating and overshadowing absolutely everything else. and i'm trying to work out if he has experience in the aria or the royal navy, i'm not seeing any, that may not be accurate but you may not need this experience to be the defence secretary? no, i do not think michael fallon had any experience in the armed forces. i think he came from a private sector background, which is the same with gavin williamson. a lot of your time is being a whitehall operator, and budgeting which will be critical now. with the huge pressures of the deficit being kept under control, there is demand for money to lift there is demand for money to lift the pay cap and more money for the nhs or young people, that sort of thing in the forthcoming budget. within the mod, they will be looking anxiously to see whether gavin williamson will be able to fight their corner. the chief whip, or the ex—chief whip, he will at least have that knowledge or inside track on the workings of government which would give him, to an extent, a heads up in his dealings with chancellor philip hammond in protecting the mod budget which would be an advantage and if you look at others like philip hammond, he was always regarded as a bit of a bean counter in the mod. so much time is taken trying to make the sums up because of this colossal massive project that they have with building new aircraft carriers and so building new aircraft carriers and so one, which cost billions. there is an accountancy background which is an accountancy background which is almost as important, ensuring at the end of the day the bottom line does not look too bad. norman smith outside of the ministry of defence, waiting patiently for the new defence secretary to arrive at his new place of work effectively. thank you. gavin williamson mp, the former chief whip who protects the prime minister and her position. it's been called "medieval", a "black death" plague which causes septicaemia, organ failure and death. it's killed 124 people in madagascar. more than 1,000 others have become ill and the disease is highly infectious. madagascar is a large island off the east coast of africa and fears about the spread of the plague have grown after the world health organisation issued new guidance for infection control to nine neighbouring countries, including ones visited by many tourists such as the seychelles, south africa and kenya. so just how bad is the outbreak and will it spread? let's talk now to professorjimmy whitworth from the london school of hygiene and tropical medicine, panu saaristo is in charge of the international red cross medical operation in madagascar. eugenie raharisoa is a resident living in the capital of madagascar. firstly, professor whitworth, what is the disease and what does it do to you? plague is a bacterial infection, you say it is medieval but it has never gone away. it occurs in various hotspots around the world. madagascar is the place where most cases occur every year. and how worried should people in the region be? well, this is the biggest outbreak we have seen in 50 years. it's unusual in the number of cases that have occurred, and also there is more of the pneumonic form of this where it can spread from person to person and it has got into urban areas, and places where we do not normally see it. it is an unusual outbreak. eugenie, thank you for speaking to us from the capital, what are peoples worries? people are worried because they are scared that they will catch the plague, and we are hearing about the pneumonic plague. before we heard about the bubonic plague. people are worried about spitting. thank you for speaking to us. madagascar has an outbreak of plague every year, why is this different? it isn't the plague as usual because it started earlier, and as we heard just earlier, and as we heard just earlier, it came to the capital city, two large urban centres. it is predominantly the pulmonary form, the long form, of the disease which transmits very easily between individuals. in public gatherings, schools, and communities in normal social interactions. understandably, people are nervous and there are questions as to how to protect yourself and your family. it's the long form of the disease kills so quickly, it increases the level of fears in the local community. professor whitworth, how do you stop it spreading? it can be eminently treated with antibiotics, this particular outbreak, the bacteria are fully sensitive to antibiotics so are fully sensitive to antibiotics so the key thing is to identify cases, treat them and identify their contacts and make sure that you are giving them antibiotics so they do not get it. and worries about it spreading to various areas around madagascar, that is genuine? spreading to various areas around madagascar, that is genuine7m spreading to various areas around madagascar, that is genuine? it is, andi madagascar, that is genuine? it is, and i think for the neighbouring countries for madagascar, recognising that it is an island and that there is the sea in between, it is very much genuine. there is exit screening going on at ports and airports, but what is absolutely key is that in other countries there is good vigilance and preparation in case of the cases occur. thank you for coming onto the programme. thank you to all of you. we appreciate it. still to come... fewer and fewer nurses from the eu want to work here. we'll be speaking to the nhs and to nurses themselves about why this is and what impact it's having on our healthcare system. images from the 9/11 terror attacks in new york are so distressing that few of us will ever forget them. pictures much worse than these — of planes flying into the twin towers and people jumping to their deaths are too distressing to show and carrying a strong warning on youtube. that didn't stop a teacher showing them to 11—year—olds at one secondary school. and when a teaching assistant complained, she was sacked. suriyah bi has now won a tribunal against her former school — heartlands academy in birmingham and shejoins us now. how are you feeling?” how are you feeling? i feel good, vindicated actually, pleased with the results of the tribunal, but there is a little bit more to go yet. you are satisfied with some of the outcome, but not all of it. explain to our audience what happened in class today and what age of people we are talking about. we are talking about 11—year—olds who just started school the week before. the video had a clear 18 rating caution message. it came up on screen. caution message. it came up on screen. it came up for ten seconds, it was not suitable for anyone under 18. the students raised concerns and said, should we be watching this? the teacher shouted, be quiet, this is an important issue. she also said this footage at the time was not shown to people, to the public. i thought, if it was not shown because it is graphic, why is it acceptable to show to 11—year—olds, and that is why i raised concerns. the children we re why i raised concerns. the children were distressed watching that video. asa were distressed watching that video. as a teaching assistant it is perfectly legitimate for you to raise a concern about something that you considered to be inappropriate or poorjudgment you considered to be inappropriate or poor judgment in you considered to be inappropriate or poorjudgment in the classroom in which you work. what was the reaction from senior staff? when i first raised a concern i was told there would be an investigation, but 40 minutes later i was told to leave the premises immediately and the reason was given was that i was uncomfortable with the curriculum andi uncomfortable with the curriculum and i was no longer suitable to work at the school. i was not given any time to respond. i went home and i was very time to respond. i went home and i was very upset understandably. i appealed the decision by e—mail and it was rejected. but nine months later iron covered several documents, one of which showed the senior management team at the school three days after my dismissal admitted that this should never have been shown and the caution message should have been considered. but they were not sacked and i was. the tribunal having read the judgment notes said that what weighed on the senior members of staff was that you had been overly critical of other staff and, quote, enough was enough. she was dismissed after telling the school about what she reasonably saw asa school about what she reasonably saw as a safeguarding matter. you were sacked because you raised the issue. yes, absolutely and that is what the tribunal decided. it is sited in the judgment that this is blatantly a safeguarding matter and the teacher should have known that. the tribunal found in your behaviour and you said there was racial discrimination. they said there was not and you are appealing against that. sorry, religious discrimination, not racial discrimination. i am of the strong belief, and this has been consistent over the last two years, that this would not have happened if i was not a muslim. there is an e—mail and various other documents i am covered nine months after my dismissal that said that she was a trojan horse at her school, head girl and we suspect she has done this before. i have got a statement i want to read. a spokesman for e—act, the trust which runs the heartlands academy said: "although we are disappointed by thejudgment, we respect the tribunal‘s decision and we continue to further strengthen our processes to ensure that there can be no repeat of the errors highlighted to us during this case." what impact does it have on you that you lost yourjob as a teaching assistant? it had a severe emotional, psychological impact losing myjob, especially because there were documents that suggested it was because of my religion. it affects not only me, but dull community because this is an issue thatis community because this is an issue that is constant, muslims are being vilified, they are suspect community and now it seems to me that regardless of how educated one is, what matters is the colour of your skin and the two yards of material i am wearing on my head. that is a sad state, and especially things like the prevent duty they create this idea that muslims are suspect community and teachers in all schools all around the country, does this mean we cannot raise a concern? what impact does this have for safeguarding? the case touches on such a broad spectrum of issues, especially legal aid. i was denied legal aid, i had especially legal aid. i was denied legalaid, i had to especially legal aid. i was denied legal aid, i had to fight this myself two years. the reason was given, even though i financially qualified, the reason given was that i was too educated for it. to reiterate the tribunal found you should not have been sacked for raising the issue that you did, but they have not upheld the religious issue. which i am appealing. the nursing and midwifery council said there has been a 90% fall in the registration of nurses from the eu. there has been a fall in the numbers already registered. the department of health says they are increasing nurse training places by 25%. we can talk to stefanie aitken, the deputy director of nursing at the deputy director of nursing at the royal college of nursing. and we can speak to the membership organisation for nhs acute hospitals, community, mental health and ambulance services. joining me now from chesterfield is joan pons laplana, who's been a nurse for 20 years and worked in the uk for 17. joan is seriously concerned about his future as an eu nurse in the uk. let me start with you, why are you concerned about your future as a nurse from the eu in britain. concerned about your future as a nurse from the eu in britainm concerned about your future as a nurse from the eu in britain. it has been 500 days since we had the brexit referendum and we are still not guaranteed what kind of right that we will have. we do not know what will happen to us and that puts a lot of pressure on our daily life and that means a lot of us are leaving. it means nurses are not welcome in this country and that has made 90% of applications folder. people do not want to come here any more because we do not know what will happen with our future. when you move to another country it is because you are welcome and valued and at the moment we do not feel welcome and valued in the uk. stefanie, how much of a problem is this? it is a massive problem. we have seen lots of years of underinvestment in the nhs and particularly in the nursing and midwifery workforce, haphazard planning. they could not predict the outcome of the brexit vote and the impact it would have. but we cannot just rely on our eu and overseas nurses and we have to think about how we grow domestic supply, how we grow that. the whole principle of the movement of labour is we have been able to rely on eu nurses just as british nurses can go elsewhere. we have, but they have never formed the majority of the workforce, but they are an important percentage of they are an important percentage of the workforce in terms of what they offer, but we rely on 80% of care being provided by uk nurses as well and we need to think about the balance of that. perhaps it is not such a worry if 80% is british?m would not be a worry if we had got that right, but now we have problems with recruitment into the nursing workforce and retention of the workforce. over 100,000 nurses on our register currently are over 56, so our register currently are over 56, so there is a massive concern about numbers falling off due to retirement and that is not mirrored by the numbercoming retirement and that is not mirrored by the number coming onto the register, so we have got an imbalance and the crisis looming. how do you respond? we have to put this in the context of recent estimates that suggest around 40,000 vacancies across the nursing workforce. we need to look at domestic supply, per recruitment and retention, but we rely on the hard work and contribution of those from overseas and the eu. effectively there is a huge amount of uncertainty over brexit and that is perhaps inhibiting people from coming over in the first place, but it is also contributing to them leaving as well and we need urgently to do something around that, confirmed the right to remain of all those eu workers. that is a quick fix. even if that happened, there would still be a time lag. if there isa would still be a time lag. if there is a 90% fall in people wanting to come to work here, there would still be months and years before that turned around. absolutely, but if you look at the trend in the past year alone, it looks really worrying and we could turn the tide on those leaving from the eu and the rest of the world if there is an immediate certainty about the right to remain. that is a fair point. we are concerned about the fact we have lost over 9000 eu nurses this year and we need to understand the reason about that may well be their concern about that may well be their concern about their employment rights going forward. they are taking the decision to go back home because of that uncertainty? we are assuming that uncertainty? we are assuming thatis that uncertainty? we are assuming that is what it is, but it is significant that 9000 have left. the shortage of nursing and midwifery places is 25%. how many nurses short are we in numbers? we have got 40,000 vacancies currently. that is the numberof 40,000 vacancies currently. that is the number of nurses we have currently got vacant, but we also need to think in terms of workforce planning of replacing those who are coming up to retirement as well. you have been here for how many years? 17? i came in 2000. you want to stay? yes, it is my home. i have my mortgage, my children, my children are british. i am completely integrated in england and i love england. it is breaking my heart the way they are treating me. i feel like a second—class citizen and it should not be like that because i give 100%. now i feel the way they have responded to us is affecting our morale. a lot of us are leaving. a lot of my colleagues are planning to leave because we do not feel we have a future in this country any more. there is focus on the day—to—day pressures and the relentless stress that front line staff are under and that is wherever they come from and we need to address the issues around morale and the work— life balance. address the issues around morale and the work- life balance. a statement from the department of health. we asked for an interview but they gave us asked for an interview but they gave us this statement. these figures signify a 0.2% decrease in the 689,000 nurses and midwives currently registered with the nursing midwifery council. if you wa nt to nursing midwifery council. if you want to know who the government's new chief whip is, it isjulian smith, he was previously the deputy chief whip. the chief weapon is now the new defence secretary, he is called gavin williamson. more on bbc newsroom live next. the fog is continuing to clear across southern the fog is continuing to clear across southern areas the fog is continuing to clear across southern areas of england and it is lifting in surrey. you can see this is a bit misty, but blue skies there, so the fog is clearing away. we will see some sunny spells in the southern areas. there is a zone of cloudy weather in wales, england and the bulk of northern england, scotla nd the bulk of northern england, scotland and northern ireland will be fine and dry this afternoon. temperature is about nine or ten, 11-13 temperature is about nine or ten, 11—13 further south. overnight a bit of fog developing in the north east, elsewhere quite cloudy into friday and on friday it will be cloudier compared to today. there will be brighter skies developing in southern areas of england. some rain spread into the far north and west and temperatures about 10—13. sunny spells at the weekend, some scattered showers, but for all of us a bit colder. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11. within the last half hour gavin williamson has been named as the new defence secretary. he moves from his former position as chief whip. theresa may moves swiftly to try and stabilise her government after the departure of sir michael fallon with promotions for both the chief whip and his deputy. it follows the resignation from the cabinet of michael fallon amid allegations of inappropriate behaviour towards women. i have behaved in the past, clearly, ina way i have behaved in the past, clearly, in a way that has occasionally been below the standards we require. i don't think it's right for me to go on as defence secretary.

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