for a global deal to tackle overfishing ahead of the launch of the bbc two programme blue planet. and a lucky escape as a british dive instructor was followed by a four metre tiger shark for 15 minutes in australia good morning. it's monday 23rd october. i'm rebecca jones. welcome to bbc newsroom live. , where welcome to bbc newsroom live. where eu leaders summit last week where eu leaders had decided to start talking amongst themselves about trade and a transition deal. they step sufficient progress had not been made to start formal negotiations with the uk on those issues. the government says there is real and tangible progress in the talks, but theresa may comes back to the uk this morning with pressure on businesses as well as the difficulties she is facing in brussels and in westminster from opposition parties and from some in her own backbench party as well. this morning boris johnson, her own backbench party as well. this morning borisjohnson, the foreign secretary, has been giving a speech. he was asked about brexit and he urged eu leaders to get on with the negotiations. the prime minister in her florence speech gave of their account on how we should proceed on citizenship, finances, the rights and privileges dossier. the uk has made what we think is a pretty good offer. i am glad that at the council in brussels they seem more positive than i thought they we re more positive than i thought they were going to be, judging by the anticipatory drum roll. they give the wind to the idea of themselves how the wind to the idea of themselves now discussing the new trade deal and how they want to proceed. i suggest humbly to our friends and partners in brussels, now is the time to get on with it. let us talk about that letter from the five influential business groups. the letter is due to be sent to david davis in the next couple of days. i amjoint by davis in the next couple of days. i am joint by one of the signatories to that letter from the cbi. you are warning about the uk facing job losses and the lack of investment u nless losses and the lack of investment unless there is an urgent brexit transition deal. where is the evidence that? we are seeing a growing sense of urgency from because although good progress has been made on friday was important, it is now only 17 months until the day the uk's ms be european union. that is tomorrow for many firms and they are making plans now. they are making decisions today, right now about investment. we are seeing a softening of manufacturing investment intentions coming through. this is real, it is urgent and a transition agreement by the end of the year will help enormously to keep investment and jobs in the country. is this notjust part of the diplomatic dancing the gods this type of negotiation with each side playing hardball? it is tough and firms understand that. this is something that applies to eu firms and uk firms. the impact onjobs and investment is the same across the european union. one of the big things that firms want is for them to get on with it. talking about trade and transition, will it give companies and businesses enough time and if they do not get this urgent transition deal in place, or what happens? the real prize is a barrier free trade deal for the long—term. that is what firms are saying. they don't know if it is going to be the case. they are planning on the basis of worst—case scenario. let's have a one step transition period that is simple so that the all—important trade talks can begin. but will we see at the end of the year businesses start to locate, removal va ns businesses start to locate, removal vans arriving, families winking about moving over if they are working in one of these companies? there is a real human cost in terms of communities because the decisions that firms are taking very real. you are seeing contingency plans being drawn up. some are being implemented how drawn up. some are being implemented now in some sectors. in more firms they are being drawn up, ready to see what happens in december and hoping there is real progress made them because that is how you keep jobs and investment in the uk and in the european union more generally. very briefly, wouldn't the cbi and other big business groups prefer to see a more comprehensive deal rather than something that is quick and messy and rush through? that is absolutely right. the principles that business one have been the same since the beginning, so barrier free trade, no customs delays. these are the things that matter and we need as much time as possible to talk about them, so transition by december, it leaves the early part of next year to strike a great deal. thank you very much. theresa may has the difficulty of the negotiations in brussels and has to face the music from some of her own mps on the conservative backbenchers. thank you. the mayor of london sadiq khan has said a new charge in central london for the most polluting vehicles is vital to improve the city's air quality. from today, drivers of older diesel and petrol vehicles will pay an extra £10 a day on top of the congestion charge. air pollution has been blamed for thousands of premature deaths in london each year. anisa kadri reports. it's seems like this worrying the london mayor said the card. he doesn't think it is their own children and that is why he is introducing the tea charge, meaning drivers of older more polluting vehicles will have to pay an extra £10 to drive in central london from today. -- siddique khan. we know that children in london have underdeveloped lungs because of the pollution. adults suffer from a variety of conditions from asbo two strokes to dementia. the charge is important. we need to have the most polluting vehicles off of the streets of london. opponents say that this will be london's poorest drivers with some businesses worried. for our members the concern is the cost of doing business. many firms are struggling with the increasing business and an increase in business rates next year. another added cost to doing business makes it even harder to carry out business in the centre of london and 30% of out in the centre of london and 30% of our members say they won't be in central london in five years' time if the costs increase. but health campaigners say it is a positive step. it's an important opportunity to try and improve the air quality in london. we know about 110,000, 150,000 children have asthma. i have heard from people who have asthma and when they get off the train in london to become unwell. this is a good opportunity to clean up pollution. checking online on the tiafoe website will tell you whether 01’ tiafoe website will tell you whether or not you have to pay up. ben ando is in central london. tel is a little bit more about how this is going to work. from 7am this morning, if you drive a car that fails a so called euro for emission standard, if you go into the central london congestion charge, as well as paying the £11 50 you would have to paying the £11 50 you would have to pay in any event, on top of that you will have to pay an extra £10. some drivers are saying it's all well and good if you can afford to get a new car, but this may be no lies those who are running older cars who may be from the poorest sectors of the community, irrespective of the effects on small businesses. some are also saying, 15 years ago we we re are also saying, 15 years ago we were being told to get diesel engines because they were supposedly better for the environment. now we are being told that diesel engines are being told that diesel engines are the biggest polluters. they are better when it comes to producing a low carbon emission, but in london it's all about air quality when it comes to people's health and the the problem chemicals are my dream dioxide and the particles that can get into the lungs. —— nitrogen dioxide. these chemicals are u nfortu nately dioxide. these chemicals are unfortunately associated with older diesel engines. how aware our drivers regarding the changes coming in today? it dawned on them mostly today. they're not happy about it. they understand that something needs to be done about air quality in london. some people are remembering the summer when the air quality got so the summer when the air quality got so bad, people were coughing the way through the days and when it got hot in theircars and through the days and when it got hot in their cars and they wound down the window, it was unpleasant for motorists as well as pedestrians. some are saying, why is it now that i'm being penalised when i bought a diesel car after being told it was good for the environment. thank you very much. james haran, who was convicted in dubai for touching a man's hib has had his charges dropped. his passport has been returned to him and he has been told that he is free to leave the country. police in warwickshire are questioning a man arrested over the four—hour hostage situation at a bowling alley in nuneaton yesterday. armed officers stormed the building in bermuda park, where two people were allegedly held at gunpoint. no—one was injured and police say the incident was not terror related. from today, hospitals in england will be required to charge upfront fees to foreign patients who receive non—emergency care. the move is part of attempts by the government to crack down on so—called "health tourism". but the british medical association has warned of the risk of confusion and an extra administrative burden for trusts. new research suggests there's significant public support for banning unpaid work experience, which lasts longer than a month. a survey of almost 5,000 people carried out by the social mobility commission found 70% felt they should be paid for longer placements. the majority said they'd support a change in the law to prevent companies exploiting unpaid interns. i think internships are many young people, they really do open doors. it gives you a taster of what life is like, whether it is in journalism, law, medicine, politics. it's not light work experience. it could be a month, a year, even more. asking people to work for free for as long as that, it's fine if you are wealthy enough to afford it, or your parents are but it's not so good if you from a lower income family who has been given an opportunity and then you find that you cannot take it. an undercover investigation by the bbc has revealed that cocaine, counterfeit goods and stolen passports are being openly traded on a uk website. the inside out programme, to be broadcast on bbc one this evening, found widespread evidence of illegal activity on the classified ads site, craigslist. jonathan gibson reports. ina cumbrian in a cumbrian pub car park, i've arranged to buy some dodgy tobacco. it's counterfeit, yes? yes. the man is advertising his tobacco on craigslist. it's classified ads website, where i can also find drugs. in derby i've arranged to buy cocaine. anyone can advertise on craigslist, and they do. as for drugs sit next to 1's for second—hand sofas or stolen passports. but what else is on craigslist? in manchester we filmed a woman offering to launder money. in london i met a postman who will intercept bank cards. this man keeps failing his driving tests, so he has advertisers on to take it for him. it's critical that the police force or the law enforcement agencies force the likes of craigslist to do something about this. craigslist refused to do an interview and the american company refused to give us a statement. why are you doing it? i'm drawn to make money for my family. not everyone hangs around to talk. i work for the bbc and we are trying to find out, mate, why you are peddling cocaine. why is that? well, he wasn't hanging about, was he? and neither was the man selling stolen passports. i'm not buying the passport office view, mates, because i work at the bbc and i want to know why you are selling stolen passports? the home office say they are investigating how sites like craigslist are being used to facilitate crime. the headlines on bbc newsroom live. boris johnson has urged the eu to think creatively to strike a deal on brexit — as business lobby groups call for a transition deal. the cost of driving older, dirtier cars in central london goes up by ten pounds — in order to combat air pollution. and undercover bbc investigation reveals that drugs, counterfeit goods and stolen passports are being openly traded on the uk website craigslist. and the scottish man sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's heap in dubai has had the case against him dropped. and in sports, everton manager ronald koeman is preparing as normal. there is increasing speculation about his future after everton dropped into the relegation zone. lewis hamilton only needs a top five finish this weekend in mexico to secure his fourth championship. and exeter recorded one of the greatest european victories in the history of the beating french side montpelier. i'll be back with more of the stories just after 11:30am. a 23—year—old woman has been charged with the murder of a toddler, who fell from a sixth—floor window in bradford. elliot procter, who was 18 months old, died on saturday at newcastle house, a seven story block of flats in the city centre. gemma procter, who's 23, will appear before magistrates in bradford. government minister has said british extremists who've gone to fight with the islamic state group in syria will have to be be killed in almost every case because of the threat they pose to the uk. rory stewart, who's a minister at the foreign office and the department for international development, said there were difficult moral issues involved. he's told the bbc that british recruits to is had "essentially moved away from any kind of allegiance" towards the uk. i don't think anybody should be in any doubt that these are people who have essentially moved away from any kind of allegiance towards the british government. they are absolutely dedicated as members of islamic state to the creation of a caliphate. they believe in an extremely hateful doctrine which includes killing others and themselves and they want to create an eighth or seven sentry state. the only way of dealing with them will be in almost every case to kill them. the united nations is trying to raise money to support rohingya muslims who've fled myanmar. more than half a million have arrived in bangladesh and thousands more are crossing the border every day creating a massive humanitarian emergency. imogen foulkes reports from geneva, where a special conference is taking place. it is the world's fastest growing refugee crisis. in just eight weeks over 600,000 people have fled their homes in myanmar, hoping for safety in bangladesh, a country which is not wealthy and which was already sheltering 300,000 rohingya muslims from an earlier outbreak of violence. over half the refugees are children, crammed into makeshift, overcrowded camps, they lack the most basic necessities for survival. clea n most basic necessities for survival. clean water, shelter and food. the un wants $430 million to support the refugees and the bangladeshi community is hosting them until the end of february. donor countries attending the pledging conference in geneva are being urged to be generous to show solidarity in the face of such an enormous humanitarian disaster. aid agencies know this crisis is likely to get worse. tens of thousands of people are waiting at the border, desperate to get across, and the only way the un can help them is in bangladesh because myanmar‘s government continues to restrict access to raa can state. i'm joined now by priti patel. the united nations has asked donor countries to step up, we will —— will we be doing the same? we have given £30 million. we have matched the disasters committees request of 5 million. the uk contribution is £47 million. by being a leader when it comes to our aid contribution for this awful disaster, we are calling upon others in geneva today to step up upon others in geneva today to step up and stand by the people, those fleeing and those now in bangladesh stuck in the camps, to be with them in their hourof stuck in the camps, to be with them in their hour of need and give them the support they desperately need. we have already given £30 million are planning to give extra money, but you said this is one of the worst humanitarian crisis and it's getting worse. what else needs to be done? there are of things we need to look at collectively within the international community. money is important and your footage will have shown the appalling conditions in the range of people are facing. our resources a re the range of people are facing. our resources are giving immediate relief in terms of food, water, shelter, medical needs and protection because most of the refugees are women and children, so ensuring that they are protected is vital. there are long—term diplomatic issues that need to be addressed. we've called upon the burmese military to stop the atrocities. i've called upon unsung sushi herself to use her voice, to bea sushi herself to use her voice, to be a voice for the rohingyas people —— aung san suu kyi. we are working with the kofi annan and commission, the un and others to do absolutely everything we can to put pressure on burma while we support the bangladesh government who are the host community of in excess of 600,000 rohingyas people. they themselves are under pressure and we need to give them the support they need. you've use the web persecution and ethnic cleansing. is this genocide and do you condemn the burmese government for that? i have been very vocal regarding the atrocities committed by the burnie ‘s government and military. we are seeing ethnic cleansing taking place. the united nations have pointed to that. just the violations of human rights, people being persecuted, women being raped, people being killed, this is an atrocity that has taken place over a successive period of time served the international needs to step up and give money at the geneva conference today and put maximum pressure on the burmese government do or the right diplomatic avenues that we have so that the persecution and violence can be ended and the rohingyas people can reclaim their voice on the back home. you are the secretary of state for international development. your colleague the international development minister robbie stewart has said that the only way of dealing with british islamic state fighters is to kill them in almost every case. do you agree with him? well, of course. that's what we have been saying to the various coalition operations that have taken place. in iraq, syria, we've seen it recently when we have been reclaiming territory back from daesh. it's right. these are people who are not standing up britain, they don't share british values. they are giving themselves over to isis, daesh, to people that wa nt to over to isis, daesh, to people that want to see the caliphate, people who are against everything we stand for, people who want to do harm to britain and to other countries and nationalities of the world and the only way to deal with them is through, as the secretary of defence and robbie stewart —— rory stewart has said, which is to kill them. just to clarify, you are saying that the only way is to do that. there is no point to all bringing them to justice? of course, what we are seeing in certain situations where there is conflict, is the only appropriate way. this comes back to my point earlier, diplomacy. we need to work within the international community which is what we are doing, but when it comes to iraq, when it comes to syria, we are seeing people who are being displaced, losing their homes, suffering such intolerable situation because of the caliphate, because of daesh, because of isis, because of the evil ideology and the persecution they are putting on people and in those situations that's the way coalition forces are dealing with this, but we are working with others to provide humanitarian support to many people who have suffered for years the extreme outcomes of this awful ideology and appeal hate and evil that these people perpetrate. the independent reviewer of terrorism that says british people havejoined isis through naivete, he's wrong? these are individuals who go off of their own accord. they are signing up their own accord. they are signing up to poisonous ideology and are killing people and inflicting hates and ideologies upon civilians in the countries they are going to. in those circumstances, as we know in iraq and syria, there are forces that are acting underground to reclaim land and territory and that is the way in which they are being dealt with. one final word on brexit, if i may. the frankfurter allgemeine newspaper has said that the reason may lead jean—claude junckerfor help. the reason may lead jean—claude juncker for help. it has been denied, but what's your take on it? —— theresa may. we will hear from the prime minister later regarding her discussions at the european council. she is fighting and negotiating for the best deal for the united kingdom. she has been clear about that from day one. she has set out her negotiating principles and that is what she is negotiating right now. as we know she will get it? this is a negotiation and that is a process that we the british government are heavily involved in and we are not going to respond to leaks or commentary at the margin is one we have a prime minister that has been unequivocally clear in terms of fighting for the best deal for britain, including trade and taking back our laws and other principles that she had been cleared on. priti patel, we're really grateful for your time. thank you. let's catch up with all the weather news now. a dreary start to the day. moving its weight eastwards. things brightening across the south—west. this was the scene in devon a short time ago. some sunshine across wales and north—west england, scotland and northern ireland. a few showers here, some of those could be thundery. rainer dragging its heels across the far east of england and further cloud and misty conditions in the south—west of england later on. this evening and night some outbreaks of rain. quite cloudy, misty and murky night for many of us. clear your spell the further north you go. rain in northern ireland. on tuesday a lot of rain expected for wales, northern england, particularly the north—west. some rain in southern scotla nd north—west. some rain in southern scotland as well. for much of england and wales it will be cloudy. best of brightness to the far north. quite mild, temperatures 17 or 18 celsius. this is bbc news. our latest headlines... following a wide—ranging speech, foreign secretary borisjohnson urges the eu to negotiate brexit trade deals — saying "now is the time to get on with it". this comes as prominent business groups are urging for a brexit deal to safeguard jobs and investment. a man has had the case against him dropped for touching a man's hit in dubai. and undercover bbc investigation reveals that counterfeit goods are being openly traded on the uk website craigslist. we can catch up with the sports news now at the bbc sports centre. good morning. everton manager ronald koeman is leading training today and preparing as normalfor their leading training today and preparing as normal for their next match. there is increasing speculation about his future after everton dropped into the premier league relegation zone yesterday following a 5—2 defeat to arsenal at goodison park. they had gone ahead through wayne rooney but conceded four second—half goals, and it means they have not won now in five matches in all competitions. ronald koeman admitted everyone at the club expects better. it's a really tough time. the team is not performing well. the position on the table is not the position that everton should be on. everybody knows that but we had a lot of expectations after last season and that expectation is not filling in at the moment and that makes the situation read difficult. it was a miserable day for liverpool, too. they lost 4—1 to totte n ha m liverpool, too. they lost 4—1 to tottenham at wembley. harry kane scored twice to increase his tally of goals to 15 in all competitions this season. liverpool paid for bad defensive errors. we put it on the plate and it's not about confidence, it's just about being 100% spot on. you cannot get anything in a game like this against tottenham if you are not like this, at your best. lewis hamilton is edging closer to a fourth formula 1 world title after winning the us grand prix. he was made to work early in the race after being overtaken by title rival sebastien vettel. hamilton managed to regain the lead on lap six and never looked back. many in attendance to watch his ninth victory of the season, including a certain usain bolt. it means hamilton needs to stay top five finish in mexico next weekend to clinch the drivers championship. it's been an incredible year so far. i really enjoy driving the car to stop i did not expect to have the pace we had on sebastian this year, today, the car felt fantastical stop right balance at the start, three more to go, three more to win. has been called one of exeter‘s greatest ever european wins. they have two wins from two in rugby union's champions cup. 27—24 the final score. not a bad season for exeter, winning the trophy in may and competing with the top sides in europe. meanwhile, wasps got their campaign back on track with a 41—10 win over harlequins. two tries, including this brilliant long—range inception. it was a bad day for ulster as they were thrashed 41—17 away. and finally, britain's olympic swimming champion adam peaty looks in great form ahead of next april's commonwealth games. he retired action with wins in the 50 metres and 100 metres brushstroke events at the manchester international swim meet. he also finished second in the 200 metres but says he has no plans to compete regularly over that distance. i haven't some 200 in about two years and it will always benefit the 100 injuries wise and it's just different to do, something different to watch when i'm dying on the last 25! i mean, olympics is very good at commonwealth is a bit more competitive because you are the home nations and you are all against each other so i'm looking forward to it. and that all the sport for now and apologies, rebecca, i promise to get your name right in the next hour. i shall hold you to that! good to see you, jess! if scottish man who was sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's hip in dubai has had the case against him dropped. 27—year—old jamie from scotland was arrested in july and charged with public indecency. andrew, what more can you tell us? in terms of the background to this case, jamie harron had been working as an alec trish and in afghanistan and he was on a two day stopover in to —— dubai and he said he was trying to avoid spilling his drink ina he was trying to avoid spilling his drink in a crowded bar when he inadvertently touched a man's hip and the man he made a complaint against him had withdrawn the complaint but prosecutors in to buy had decided to go ahead with the case anyway. the campaign group detained in dubai has been representing jamie harron said at the weekend he had been sentenced to three months in prison for public indecency, added to which was a further one month that he had previously been sentenced to four drinking and what the detained in dubai organisation has told us, we have just had a statement from them in the last few minutes, he got a call from a local police station to turn up where he was told that the case against him had been dropped and those two jail terms against him had been cancelled and he got his passport back and he was told he was free to leave the country and that order had apparently come from the ruler of to buy himself —— the ruler of dubai himself in stock we understand that jamie harron of dubai himself in stock we understand thatjamie harron has beenin understand thatjamie harron has been in contact with his family today and we think he may be coming today and we think he may be coming to visit him. detained in dubai said he is taking similar action in this case because of the distress and financial loss that this case has caused him. andrew black, our scotla nd caused him. andrew black, our scotland correspondent. patients are being encouraged to go home and rest in order to recoverfrom being encouraged to go home and rest in order to recover from some illnesses rather than being prescribed unnecessary antibiotics. the advice is part of a campaign by public health england aimed at limiting the spread of drug—resistant limiting the spread of drug—resista nt superbugs. limiting the spread of drug—resistant superbugs. our health correspondent james gallagher reports. bacteria are getting harder to treat as they resist waves of antibiotics. this is where the most serious infections come for analysis. laboratories admit they are worried about growing levels of antibiotic resistance. my lab looks for resistance to the most powerful antibiotics we currently have. we we re antibiotics we currently have. we were seeing these bacteria and maybe two four cases each year but last year we confirmed these resistant strains in over 2000 cases. drug resista nt strains in over 2000 cases. drug resistant infections are a growing problem. 5000 people were killed by such infections. four in ten cases of e. coli can't be treated with the most common antibiotics. using too many and optics increases drug resistance. this campaign is being launched to tell people they will not be given a pill every time they are ill. the majority of us will get infections and recover because of our own immunity. the fact is if you have an antibiotic when you don't need it then you are more likely to have an infection that and go six then don't work for over the coming months. we all have a part play in preventing the rise of angelo secret systems. —— antibiotic resistance. john craig had been swimming underwater and lost sight of his boat. he then noticed the tiger shark, which was four metres long nearby. john had to swim ahead for 15 minutes before it disappeared. he then swam for a further three hours to reach the shore. i must have swum a 500 metres with the shark swimming ona a 500 metres with the shark swimming on a parallel course. in another situation it would have been an amazing experience but in this situation i was in it was fairly terrifying and then after 500 metres shark decided no, i can't be bothered any more and just turned away and disappeared into the blue. ina in a moment a summary of the business use but first here are the headlines on bbc newsroom live. boris johnson has urged the eu to think creatively to strike a deal on brexit — as business lobby groups call for a transition deal. the cost of driving older, dirtier cars in central london and a scottish man who was sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's hip in a dubai bar has had the case against him dropped. the cost of driving older, dirty ca rs the cost of driving older, dirty cars in central london is going up today by £10 in order to combat air pollution. hello, welcome to the business news. business lobby groups representing millions of workers are warning jobs are at risk if there isn't a quick brexit transition deal. five of the biggest groups in britain have drafted a letter to brexit secretary david davis saying time is running out. drivers of older vehicles are now facing an extra charge for driving into central london. the £10 t—charge mainly applies to diesel and petrol vehicles registered before 2006 — and covers the same area as the existing congestion charge zone. japanese stocks hit their highest level since 1996 after prime minister shinzo abe won a clear election victory. the nikkei climbed more than 1% in its 15th straight day of gains — that's a record winning streak for the index. britain's households financial worries have eased to their lowest sincejune — that's according to a new survey. the research firm ihs says that reflects the public‘s growing optimism about the future of the economy. chris williamson is a chief economist with markit— who compiled those figures, and hejoins me from our exeter studio now. just explain, what is the source of this optimism? well, the source of optimism is largely based on hopes that the future is going to improve in terms of finances. some of this optimism is reflecting savers who are aware that interest rates are hopefully for the first time in over a decade going to start rising so their savings will earn more interest but i think the main thing to note about this is this is an easing of pessimism rather than optimism about the future. ever since this survey has been conducted since this survey has been conducted since 2009, every month we have had families saying that their finances are deteriorating gradually. their holes also been a finding that there has been a fall in household incomes. indeed, the first ball since january. we saw a pick—up in incomes midyear, not so much actual wages but the actual amount that people are bringing back home from work, so maybe doing more overtime. that seems to have reversed and the worrying thing about this is the extent to which spending is still holding up now that gap is being financed by more credit so answered your credit, loans and so forth, they are on the rise again —— so unsecured credit. but there is a growing likelihood of an interest rate raise before the end of the year. all that do to people's perceptions about the state of the economy? this is the big unknown. we have the two camps, savers benefit from higher interest rates, the concern is that there's a large number people with a large amount of debt and hiking interest rates puts more the burden on the interest rate of that debt so at the moment interest rates are so low, the banks base rate is the lowest ever at 0.25%. there is a growing expectation that november will see them inch up woods to 0.5%. by historical standards that are still incredibly low so i think the bankers hoping this will send a message that interest rates are going to start rising very gradually from here on, not to an extent that should cause problems if people manage their finances properly but its intention is to get people to start bringing in some of that debt, certainly the pace at which it is expanding because loans on things like cars at rowing at, well, they have doubled in the last five years so this is where the bank is concerned. not so much mortgage because that's got an asset behind it that a secured debt. this is unsecured debt where you want pouring money with no assets behind it. that is the area of finance the bank is hoping to cool down. chris williamson, thanks to joining bank is hoping to cool down. chris williamson, thanks tojoining us. let's take a look at some of the other business stories . the financial conduct authority has fined us investment bank merrill lynch £3.5 million. it's for failing to report exchange—traded derivative deals in february last year. the fca said the reporting requirement key to boosting the transparency of financial markets. good news for cheese lovers in china. the government there as its reversed an import ban on several types of soft cheeses — like roquefort, danish blue and stilton. the ban was imposed because the strains of bacteria used to make the cheeses weren't approved in china. there are now more than 2,000 breweries in the uk for the first time since the 1930s, according to accountancy group uhy hacker young. there's been a 64% increase in breweries over the past five years boosted by increased sales of artisan beers in pubs and supermarkets. quick look at the markets for you, the ftse continues to thrust away. shares in spire, the uk private hospital chain, jumped 11% after it rejected a takeover bid from south africa's mediclinic. pendragon — which owns the stratstone and evans halshaw car dealerships — said it expects a fall in demand to affect its annual results. all the life of around the world will be affected as the oceans become more acidic due to carbon dioxide emissions. that's according toa dioxide emissions. that's according to a major study involving more than 250 scientists. the research, which lasted eight years, warns that infa ncy lasted eight years, warns that infancy creatures are especially vulnerable. we can look into this more closely now with the international climate lead for christian aid and he joins international climate lead for christian aid and hejoins me now. thank you for coming in to talk to us here on bbc news. an eight year long study. what are your thoughts? we have always known our climate is changing but with a changing climate what we are now seeing is our oceans are getting warmer and more acidic and with oceans getting more acidic and with oceans getting more acidic and warmer, what is happening, life is being threatened and this is hitting the fishing communities. as the ocean gets warmer and green life is disrupt it, the fish stocks are being constrained. say what you're saying if the chemistry of the sea is being changed. tell us more about impact the thing that's happening. the chemistry of the oceans being changed, the extent to which marine life can be able to continue growing and the rest of us through our fishing communities be able to access the fish stocks we have been dependent on to be able to meet our food requirements is getting more diminished. this basically means that communities will depend on fishing getting in peril. their ability to provide food for themselves is getting constrained and that means climate change, which we have known, has been hitting us on land, is now hitting us on the oceans. which communities are we talking about in particular? particularly in the developing world. the centuries people have depended on the oceans for their food and they are going to be hit ha rd est. food and they are going to be hit hardest. which countries are we talking about? countries that have been dependent on oceans, think of asian countries, bangladesh, countries that have been dependent on the ocean, countries in africa, particularly in eastern and western africa who have depended for many yea rs, africa who have depended for many years, centuries, on fishing. these are the countries that will be hit first and last but these are not the only country. everyone dependent on fish and green life for meeting part of their food intake fish and green life for meeting part of theirfood intake is going fish and green life for meeting part of their food intake is going to eventually be affected. what needs to be done? we need to ramp up international efforts and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. this is what is causing climate change and so what we need to see is massive, rapid sustained cuts so we can prevent climate change. if you come from the fishing community what needs to also happen is international support to the fishing communities so they can start working for turn the ways for them to be able to meet their requirements. thank you. when blue planet appeared on our tv screens almost 20 years ago, it opened up the wonders of the ocean to millions of viewers for the first time. now two decades later, sir david attenborough is back for a second series. for the last four years, the bbc‘s natural history film crews have been scouring the seas in search of a new cast of aquatic animals. our science editor, david shukman, went to meet the man behind the magic. hidden beneath the waves, right beneath my feet there are creatures beyond our imagination. it's always said we know more about the moon and mars than the ocean. is that really true and do you think this adventure shows that? this world is infinitely more complex than anything we've discovered out in the universe as far as i know. the degree of complexity of what we need to know or do know about the moon and mars are not very great actually because there are no life, there's no complex communities of life to know things about on those two satellites. do you think we will ever reach a point where we do know enough or is there always going to be a journey of curiosity and enquiry? as far as i can see, what we are discovering is almost always that the world is more intricate, more wonderful, more astonishing than we ever dreamed of. david, you have been involved in so many documentary series and this one, i've seen the first episode, it's completely stunning. what, for you, is the most startling revelation if you like about this new venture into the deep ocean? i think it's the degree to which marine animals communicate with one another, not only individually within a species, but also between species. a mother walrus still needs to find a place where her young can rest. there was a very moving scene in episode one of a walrus mother trying to get her calf onto a piece of ice and there wasn't much left because it's all melting. what is your sense about the scale and rate of change in, for example, the arctic? i think any sceptics that there were ten years ago, 20 years ago, about global warming and so on, climate change, and there were lots, must surely be diminishing, almost to vanishing point when you see the evidence we have collected. world scientists around the world have collected what's happened to our seas. and the fact we are responsible for that. what is it that motivates you to remain engaged at this active pace if i may say at your age? it's so wonderful, so astonishing. what more do you want out of life? this amazing astonishment and beauty and intricacy and wonder in areas we don't know about. discovery in the natural world isjust a never ending delight. the extraordinary behaviours of all these creatures doing so, they are all so beautiful and extraordinary and so unlike anything else we encounter on our dry land. the world of the underwater is just amazing. sir david attenborough talking to our science correspondence. the headlines are coming up on the bbc news channel. in a moment we say goodbye to viewers on bbc two. first, we leave you with for a look at the weather. here is simon king with a forecast. it started off this morning grey and cloudy, somehow breaks —— some outbreaks of rain for many of us. jarring this week, it will stay changeable. there will be lighter winds compare to the last few days. it will turn warmer as well. temperatures above average the time of year. at the moment lots of cloud as you can see. also one or two holes in that cloud, giving us brightness. this is one scene from devon where those cows are brightening up a touch. that will continue for northern and western parts. —— where those clouds are brightening up. eastern parts will be cloudy and damp. later in the afternoon more cloud in the cornwall, west devon. misty conditions developing here. in south—east england, the midlands, eastern areas cloudy with outbreaks of rain. sunshine up towards scotla nd of rain. sunshine up towards scotland and northern ireland where there will be brighter skies this they few showers coming afternoon. they few showers coming in towards western areas, perhaps heavy and thundery. this evening and tonight the rain clears from the east and there we aren't looking at misty and murky conditions across the south—west spreading their way northwards into wales through southern england, the midlands, outbreaks of rain and cloud and early hours of tuesday morning. this rain will move northwards and wet conditions into the afternoon across wales, through northern england, typically the north—west. rain clear from scotland and northern ireland. that is where we have the best sunshine on tuesday. further south saying cloudy, misty and murky especially towards the south and west. on wednesday for the northern half of the uk the driest and brightest day of the week southern areas staying cloudy. still rain but still quite mild, quite warm. temperatures above average. this weather front has been moving northwards and southwards throughout the week but on thursday as it moves its way further north it draws in this warm airfrom its way further north it draws in this warm air from the south so for thursday quite cloudy, still some outbreaks of rain, temperatures above average. temperatures could reach 20 or 21 celsius in the breaks the cloud. on thursday in the cooler air there will be sunshine throughout the day and as a result temperatures about 12 or 13 celsius. more details on the website but that's all from me for now, i'll leave you for the rest of the afternoon. good life. —— goodbye. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 12. borisjohnson urges the eu to think creatively to strike a deal on brexit amid reports claiming theresa may "begged" the european commission president "for help" at a recent dinner: they have given a fair wind to the idea of themselves now discussing the eu trade deal and other it to proceed. i suggest to our friends and partners in brussels that now is the time to get on with it. it comes as the uk's biggest business lobby groups write to the brexit secretary, calling for an urgent brexit transition deal to safeguard jobs and investment. the international development secretary tells bbc news that british citizens who go to fight in syria are signing up to a "poisonous and evil ideology." the cost of driving older, dirtier cars in central london goes up by £10 in order to combat air pollution. a scottish man sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's hip in a dubai bar has had the case against him dropped. also, caught in the act. an undercover bbc investigation reveals drugs and counterfeit goods are being openly traded on the uk website craigslist. and a lucky escape — as a british dive instructor was followed by a four metre tiger shark during a three hour swim home when he was stranded off the coast of western australia. good morning. it's monday 23rd october. i'm rebecca jones. welcome to bbc newsroom live. some of the uk's biggest business lobby groups have been calling for an urgent brexit transition deal to safeguard investment. in a joint letter being sent to brexit secretary david davis, the groups, including the institute of directors and cbi, will say time is running out. the foreign secretary has also been speaking this morning, urging the eu to think creatively and positively to find a way through the brexit negotiations to suit both sides. lots to talk about. let's get the details now with our political correspondent eleanor garnier. theresa may returned to london last week. leaders said they would talk amongst themselves, but they refused to move on to formal negotiations with the uk on those two topics because they say further negotiations are needed regarding the divorce. this morning the foreign secretary has been giving a speech any says the eu needs to get on with the negotiations. the prime minister in her florence speech gave of their account on how we should proceed on citizenship, finances, the rights and privileges dossier. the uk has made what we think is a pretty good offer. i am glad that at the council in brussels they seem more positive than i thought they were going to be, judging by the anticipatory drum roll. they give the wind to the idea of themselves now discussing the new trade deal and how they want to proceed. i suggest humbly to our friends and partners in brussels, now is the time to get on with it. overnight a letter has been revealed that has been written by five of the uk's biggest business lobbying groups. it is being sent to the brexit secretary david davis over the next couple of days and in that letter those business groups warn of the urgent need for a transition deal with the eu to be agreed arouse the uk risks losing jobs and also investment. the cbi says it needs to be done before the end of this year because businesses are trying to put in place plans for what might happen and what kind of deal the uk might get with the eu. the mayor of london has also been talking about this and he said that businesses are telling him they are worried about the lack of progress in negotiations. when i speak to businesses on a daily basis they tell me that they are worried about what will happen when we leave the european union. they are worried about falling off the cliff edge and they need to know now what the terms of the deal will be. they are telling me that unless they know by the end of this year, by the very latest at the end of the first quarter next jet, they have contingency plans to leave london. i'm saying to our prime minister and our government that it is crucial they provide certainty as soon as possible. now the big business groups are calling for a two—year transition deal that would mean did day of the uk leads the eu, existing trade arrangements will continue as close as possible to as they are now. that's what they are calling for. the prime minister has said she wa nts a the prime minister has said she wants a transition deal of around two years that will prevent some sort of cliff edge, as the uk leads the eu, but richard tice, businessmen and co—chair of leave means leave, says a transition period is needed, but if it fails, there is nothing wrong with falling outs of the rules. we have been saying on writing for months that we need this transition deal agreed by christmas. if not, we need to allow ourselves the space and time to move to the other type of deal, which is a wto deal. if we can't agree a transition by christmas, we need a 15 month period to make sure we are properly prepared. it's good that these business lobbying groups are coming around. and you agree that this is so urgent? the cbi this morning said that if not we will risk losing jobs, investment, etc in this country. that's why the wii have been saying of months. people need clarity in terms of how they will invest. the vast majority of the economy will continue as it does. just remember how many more jobs we have created. there is positive economic data out there. they are slightly dramatising it, but the good news is that they recognise what we have said for months. the government says there has been real tangible progress in the brexit talks with brussels on both sides in those negotiations hope there will be significant progress at the next summit which is in december. i think what all this shows is the pressure that theresa may is under. we have had this letter from a group of lobbying groups this morning. she had difficulty with the negotiating in brussels. there is pressure coming from her own backbenchers and inside government. theresa may is under pressure, but the government say that real and tangible progress is being made. thank you very much. as we've been hearing, a senior eu official has denied he's the source of a report in a german newspaper, which claims theresa may begged for help when she discussed brexit with the european commission presidentjean—claude juncker last week. martin selmayer — who's mrjuncker‘s chief of staff — said the account was an attempt to undermine talks our europe correspondent damian grammaticas is in brussels. how sensitive is this, given that the eu has been accused of leaking before? it is pretty sensitive and as you say, because the eu is concerned, there was an earlier incident earlier in the year, dinner at downing street, jean—claude juncker was there along with his chief of staff. after that dinner there was an account in the same german newspaper in which mrs may was described by mrjuncker as being on another galaxy. there was quite a bit of fallout out of that. the prime minister herself made a statement outside downing street. the commission is concerned. i asked them in the last hour or so in the daily briefing would they back up the denial. they said that people point at them to serve their own political agendas. they said they would appreciate if people would leave them alone. i think that is a sign of real irritation. they don't wa nt sign of real irritation. they don't want these delicate tools to be undermined —— they don't want these delicate talks to be undermined. it's quite possible that it was discussions that mrjuncker was having around a table with other countries and maybe it's a second—hand account of the conversation that has come out, but frustration and irritation because they do not see this is helpful. thank you. a government minister has said british extremists who've gone killed, in almost every case, because of the threat they pose to the uk. rory stewart, who's a minister at the foreign office and the department for international development, said there were difficult moral issues involved. he's told the bbc that british recruits to is had "essentially moved away from any kind of allegiance" towards the uk. earlier the secretary of state for international development gave mr stewart her backing. these are people that are not standing offer britain, do not share british values. they are giving themselves over to is, isis, daesh, to people that want to see a caliphate, people that are against everything we stand for, people that wa nt to everything we stand for, people that want to do harm to britain and other countries are nationalities in the world. the only way to deal with them is through, as the secretary of state for defence and robbie stewart have said, through the actions we and coalition forces are taking which is to kill them which has happened during the various strikes that have taken place. the mayor of london sadiq khan has said a new charge in central london for the most polluting vehicles is vital to improve the city's air quality. from today, drivers of older diesel and petrol vehicles will pay an extra £10 a day on top of the congestion charge. air pollution has been blamed for thousands of premature deaths in london each year. anisa kadri reports. it's fumes like this worrying the london mayor sadiq khan and he doesn't think it is fair on children and that is why he is introducing the t charge, meaning drivers of older more polluting vehicles will have to pay an extra £10 to drive in central london from today. we know that children in london have underdeveloped lungs because of the poor quality air. there are adults suffering from a variety of conditions from asthma to strokes and dementia which is linked to the poor quality air. so today's t charge is the toughest in the world for very good reason. we need to have the most pollutant vehicles off of the streets of london. opponents say that this will penalise london's poorest drivers and some businesses worried. it's the right ambition to tackle air quality, but for our members the concern is the cost of doing business. many firms are struggling with the increasing business and an increase in business rates next year. another added cost to doing business makes it even harder to carry out business in the centre of london and 30% of our members say they won't be in central london in five years' time if the costs continue increase. but health campaigners say it is a positive step. it's an important opportunity to try and improve the air quality in london. we know about 110,000, 150,000 children have asthma in london and about 600,000 adults. i know from experience of talking to people with asthma that when they come to london, when they get off the train, they become unwell. so i think this is a good opportunity to clean up pollution. the new t charge, t for toxicity by the way, more generally affects those vehicles registered before 2006. checking online on the tfl website can tell you quickly if you will have to pay up. anisa kadri, bbc news. ben ando is in central london. tel is a little bit more how this is going to work. where at a filling station close to the edge of the congestion charging zone. this is an area where if your vehicle does not pass the euro four standards, you will have to pay an additional £10 on top of the congestion charge. motorists we spoke to this morning said they'd had not heard about it until they listen to the radio this morning. most support the idea in principle and agree with improving air quality in london, but many were worried that it would impact on fairly on those who could not afford it, mainly lower income people and smaller businesses. the penalty is a bit high and we should have had a warning. what will people do with theircars? a lot warning. what will people do with their cars? a lot of people work in their cars? a lot of people work in the city in central london. pretty harsh. let's see what will happen, but not good news, not for small to medium businesses. it will cut pollution and give people a better life. i don't think it helps. things need to be delivered to central london and is the wrong policy. once again, the private individual is paying for a political move. some drivers said that when they bought the diesel cars a few years ago they did it because at that time they we re did it because at that time they were told they were best for the environment. but the goalposts have moved. diesel cars are better when it comes to a small carbon footprint, but when it comes to the small particles that can get into your lungs that cause problems with health, its diesel cars that are usually the worst offenders. thank you. the headlines on bbc newsroom live. boris johnson has urged the eu to think creatively to strike a deal on brexit — as business lobby groups call for a transition deal. the government minister backs her colleague who says that the only way to do with those fighting with the islamic state is to kill them. and a scottish man who was given a three—month jail sentence in dubai for touching a man's hip has had his case dropped. time now for the sport. good afternoon. everton manager ronald koeman is leading training today and preparing as normal for their next match. there is increasing speculation about his future after everton dropped into the premier league relegation zone yesterday following a 5—2 defeat to arsenal at goodison park. they had gone ahead through wayne rooney but conceded four second—half goals, and it means they have not won now in five matches in all competitions. ronald koeman admitted everyone at the club expects better. it's a really tough time. the team is not performing well. the position on the table is not the position that everton should be on. everybody knows that but we had a lot of expectations after last season and that expectation is not filling in at the moment and that makes the situation read difficult. it was a miserable day for liverpool, too. they lost 4—1 to tottenham at wembley. harry kane scored twice to increase his tally of goals to 15 in all competitions this season. liverpool paid for bad defensive errors. lewis hamilton is edging closer to a fourth formula 1 world title after winning the us grand prix. he was made to work early in the race after being overtaken by title rival sebastien vettel. hamilton managed to regain the lead on lap six and never looked back. many in attendance to watch his ninth victory of the season, including a certain usain bolt. it means hamilton needs to stay top five finish in mexico next weekend to clinch the drivers championship. adam peaty is in great form ahead of the world championships. he says he has no plans to compete regularly over 200 metres after finishing second yesterday. i haven't swum the 200 in about two years, but it does impact the 100, endurance wise. the olympics is good, but the commonwealth games are more competitive. i'm looking forward to it. best of luck to him. that's all the sport from now, more in the next hour. a scottish man who was sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's hip in a dubai bar has had the case against him dropped. 27—year—old jamie harron, from stirling, was arrested injuly and charged with public indecency. detained in dubai, the group representing mr harron, told the bbc he has now been told the charges and sentence imposed on him have been dismissed. mr harron was not being held in custody. the group added that his passport was returned to him at a police station and he was told he was free to leave the country. mr harron have been working as an electrician and stoptober in dubai. he said he was in a crowded bar and was trying to avoid spilling his drink when he inadvertently touched a man's hip. the businessman who made the complaint actually withdrew it, but prosecutors decided to go ahead with it. the campaign group that has been representing mr harron said that at the weekend he was sentenced to three months in prison for public indecency, added to which was another one month which she had been sentenced to four drinking. what the organisation has told us this morning, we'vejust had a statement from them in the last few minutes, is that he got a call from a local police station to turn up where he was told that the case against him had been dropped and the two jail terms that have been imposed on him had been cancelled. he got his passport back and he was told he was free to leave the country. but order had come from the ruler of dubai himself. we understand that mr harron has been in contact with his family today. we think he may be planning to come back soon. the campaign group said that he will be taking legal action joo to the distress that the whole situation has caused him. let's look at some of today's other developing stories: a 23—year—old woman has been charged with the murder of a toddler, who fell from a sixth—floor window in bradford. elliot procter, who was 18 months old, died on saturday at newcastle house, a seven story block of flats in the city centre. gemma procter, who's 23, will appear before magistrates in bradford. police in warwickshire are questioning a man arrested over the four—hour hostage situation at a bowling alley in nuneaton yesterday. armed officers stormed the building in bermuda park, where two people were allegedly held at gunpoint. no—one was injured and police say the incident was not terror related. from today, hospitals in england will be required to charge upfront fees to foreign patients who receive non—emergency care. the move is part of attempts by the government to crack down on so—called "health tourism". but the british medical association has warned of the risk of confusion and an extra administrative burden for trusts. new research suggests there's significant public support for banning unpaid work experience, which lasts longer than a month. a survey of almost 5,000 people carried out by the social mobility commission found 70% felt they should be paid for longer placements. the majority said they'd support a change in the law to prevent companies exploiting unpaid interns. i think internships for many young people, they really do open doors. it gives you a taster of what life is like, whether it is in journalism, law, medicine, politics. it's not light work experience. it could be a month, a year, even more. asking people to work for free for as long as that, it's fine if you are wealthy enough to afford it, or your parents are but it's not so good if you from a lower income family who has been given an opportunity and then you find that you cannot take it. a group of mps has launched an inquiry into so called ‘pop—up' brothels — that's where one or more sex workers set up in residential or holiday premises for a short period. it follows a huge increase in their prevalence, and accusations that they are a hotbed for criminal and human trafficking. sex work campaigners said women have had to resort to this after a number of well—established brothels were raided and subsequently closed, leaving them with nowhere to go. an undercover fbi operative who infiltrated terrorist groups has spoken about his experience. his real identity has not been revealed and the spy had to wear make—up and prosthetics as a disguise. he has fought and al-qaeda plot and he describes his experience of working undercover. there is nothing like putting your arm around the bad guy, telling him you are his best friend, getting him to commit and tell you all his secrets in all the evil inside him and locking them up that way is much more challenging an intriguing to me and ifound way is much more challenging an intriguing to me and i found that that was my niche. for a full summary of the news, you can go to our website where you can get more details on all of those stories. all sea life around the world will be affected as the oceans become more acidic due to carbon dioxide emissions, according to a major study involving more than 250 scientists. the research, which lasted eight years, warns that infant sea creatures are especially vulnerable, as our environment analyst roger harrabin reports. here's the effect of carbon dioxide on sea water. these bubbles contain natural co2 from an underwater volcano few sea creatures can live here because the co2 has made nearby water more acidic. swim away from those vents and what a difference. the sea's chemistry returns to normal and wonderful reef life can thrive. but industrial society is churning out c02 on a massive scale and the gases being absorbed into sea water round the world, making it all more acidic. today's report warns of major impacts on sea life. this comprehensive study confirms what we've been observing globally. ocean acidification is a problem. acidity is increasing and that's not just having an impact on the ecology which we're seeing already, but it will have an impact on us as humans further down the line. take one fish we love to eat — cod. the research shows that baby cod are especially sensitive to more acidic water. it projects that if c02 levels rise unchecked, we should expect only a quarter as many cod in the seas. some species will thrive with the changes the scientists say like some seaweeds, but the report warns that all sea life will be affected by the disruption of the food web in the seas. a british diver in western australia has swum away from a shark as it followed him for over four and a half miles. john craig had been swimming underwater and had lost sight of his boat. he then noticed the tiger shark, which was four metres long, nearby. john had to quickly swim ahead for 15 minutes before it disappeared. john then swam for a further three hours to reach the shore. ijust kept my head in the water, watched what the big tiger shark was doing. it kept coming back towards me, it would circle me and darting, i had to use my spear gun to fend it off and to keep at a safe distance. i knew the boat wasn't coming back, so my only option was to swim to shore and i knew it was seven and a half kilometres to get to the beach and that is an awfully long swim with a tiger shark behind you. it kept with a tiger shark behind you. it ke pt pa ce with a tiger shark behind you. it kept pace with me so every time i looked back, i could see its huge head. i had to use my spear gun so it would not touch my fins. doctor who's first female time lord will bejoined by three new companions. jodie whittaker, who takes over as the 13th doctor next year, will be joined by new cast regulars bradley walsh, tosin cole and mandip gill. bradley walsh has said he's looking forward to being part of the show some 50 years after first becoming a fan. let's catch up with all the weather news. good afternoon. a grey and gloomy start, but things have been brightening up. this week the wins will be lighter than they have been and temperatures will slowly notch upwards. the cloud and rain which is still persisting in central and eastern areas will push away as we go through the late afternoon. sunshine to end the day and clear spells during the night initially, but cloud will return from the south west. along with that, mr and merck and outbreaks of rain. temperatures will be 15 degrees that's the kind of mild airthat will be 15 degrees that's the kind of mild air that will pump across the country tomorrow. outbreaks of moving eastwards. the main band will dissipate by lunchtime. to the north, brighter, to the south, cloud. here, decidedly warm at 80 degrees. the best of the brightness will be further north. that's all for now. this is bbc newsroom live. our latest headlines. in a wide—ranging speech, foreign secretary borisjohnson urges the eu to negotiate brexit trade deals — saying "now is the time to get on with it". this comes as prominent uk business groups are calling for an urgent brexit transition deal, to safeguard jobs and investment. international development secretary priti patel says her colleague rory stewart was right to say the only way to deal with britons fighting for the islamic state group is to kill them. a scottish man who was sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's hip in a dubai bar has had the case against him dropped. drivers of some older vehicles now have to pay almost twice as much to drive in central london, with a new charge aimed at reducing pollution. an undercover bbc investigation reveals drugs and counterfeit goods are being openly traded on the uk website craigslist. a government minister has said british extremists who've gone to fight with the islamic state group in syria will have to be be killed in almost every case because of the threat they pose to the uk. rory stewart, who's a minister at the foreign office and the department for international development, said there were difficult moral issues involved. he's told the bbc that british recruits to is had "essentially moved away from any kind of allegiance" towards the uk. his comments have been supported by the international development secretary, priti patel. these are individuals who go of their own accord, their own choice. they are not fighting for britain, they are signing up to eight poisonous and evil ideology where they are killing people and inflicting poisonous hate and ideology upon countries, upon civilians in the country that they are also going to say in those circumstances, as we know in iraq and syria, there are forces quite frankly that are acting on the ground to reclaim land, territory and that is the way in which they are being dealt with. with me is clive baldwin from human rights watch. also i'm joined from our westminster studio by raffaello pantucci from the royal united services institute. welcome to you both. if i might start with you, rory stewart says the only way to deal with british islamic state fighters in almost every case is to kill them, as we heard their priti patel agrees. do you? we had to look at them on a case—by—case basis and i think if we are looking at those out on the battlefield certainly from a uk government perspective it is a far easier and more clean solution in many ways if they just don't easier and more clean solution in many ways if theyjust don't come home and if they end up dead on the battlefield. can i ask you the question, what do you think? look, my view is people who have gone off to fight along islamic state have signed up for to fight along islamic state have signed upforan to fight along islamic state have signed up for an organisation that has made an attempt to attack the west. if they die on the battlefield it doesn't surprise me and i feel like this is something they ultimately would expect and were looking for. if we look at some of the cases and individuals who try to come back who appear to want to change their ways and are willing to come back and be open about what they have done on the battlefield and will show evidence of what they participated in and go through due process in the court of law that is an acceptable solution as well. i did the we need to execute them all on the battlefield. if some of them come back and demonstrate and atone for their sins, we have a system in place to handle the sorts of people so that's fine. clive baldwin from human rights watch, what is the best way to deal with british extremists who go to syria to fight alongside islamic state? there are two roles, on the battlefield you are fighting fighters, you can kill those fighters, you can kill those fighters, but is important also to know that after the battle is over and the battle against isis is coming to an end in syria and iraq, what you do with people who are captured and others and those would say people with responsible the worst crimes should be prosecuted and that is why the government is supporting a strong system of justice in iraq to prosecute isis responsible for genocide and some of the worst crimes possible. that's why remarks like mr stewart's taken as they are as a sign about —— as a sound bite are unfortunate because it is not situation that everyone can should be killed. even on a battlefield you'd ta ken can should be killed. even on a battlefield you'd taken someone you don't execute them. that's a very useful distinction. to stay with you on the battlefield for a moment, what about this argument that if they are killed they have brought it upon themselves? fighters who are fighting don't usually choose to do that so they do take it on that they can then be targeted and killed but it's really important that the message gets out from the british government more i think mr stewart is right qualifies remarks this morning, to say we respect the rule of law, the rule of law on the battlefield, we don't commit war crimes such as the execution of prisoners, because those rules project british troops as well. the argument that these people go out to fight have descended their allegiance to the uk, tell us what you think about the argument that these people have gone out naively and deserve a chance to come back and deserve a chance to come back and be integrated into society here. how about work? i think you need to remember you are dealing with a lot of individual cases and there is probably no universal rule that can be applied to them all. we have two iran that we have some people he went out in the early days of the syrian conflict he went out for fairly noble reasons, they saw what was happening to the syrian people and saw people were doing anything about it and later gazza their responsibility to go and defend them. —— and they took it as their responsibility to defend them. people who are going to join the organisation at that stage, it's a very different sort of cohort of people. we have to distinguish in terms of time when people went out there to appreciate their motives and understand exactly what they we re and understand exactly what they were going to do. looking at the people he went out in the later period is going out tojoin people he went out in the later period is going out to join the islamic state when it was prominently butchering people, executing people on the battlefield, launching terror attacks in europe, you have to question what the set of choices they have made. there is another question we need to add in, which is what we think about these young people he went out? these teenage girls for example or teenagers who went out there, you are looking at people who were potentially at a naive stage in their lives. they made a very wrong choice but there is a question about how we handle them as individuals. i suspect many of them are dying, getting caught in the brutal conflict we are seeing but the ones that survive, it is a real question about what are we to do with them and one has to think carefully. in some cases if they are criminals, we have a legal system in place but i think the naive cases we have seen, the independent review of terrorism max hill talking about, a small and eventual number of cases. i think the overwhelming majority of people who went off to join them knew what they werejoining who went off to join them knew what they were joining and who went off to join them knew what they werejoining and do need to pay for that in some way. clive can you give us a sense of what other countries are doing and how they are tackling this issue is to mark? those responsible for crimes and we need to look this on a global scale because some of the worst crimes of the last decade were committed in iraq need to be dealt with and some of that can be dealt with in iraq by building up theirjustice system because the crimes were done by isis ata group because the crimes were done by isis at a group and they should be prosecuted there. we would also like to see british and other governments pushing the iraqis to do more international justice, pushing the iraqis to do more internationaljustice, join the international criminal court of justice in the hague and they can deal with those worst crimes. although isis has permitted the worst crimes they have in terrible crimes committed by the allied forces to the iraqi gunmen and those crimes need to be dealt with as well. we have got to leave it there. -- allied forces to the iraqi government. the united nations is trying to raise money to support rohingya muslims who've fled myanmar. more than half a million have arrived in bangladesh, and thousands more are crossing the border every day creating a massive humanitarian emergency. imogen foulkes reports from geneva — where a special conference is taking place. it is the world's fastest growing refugee crisis. in just eight weeks over 600,000 people have fled their homes in myanmar, hoping for safety in bangladesh, a country which is not wealthy and which was already sheltering 300,000 rohingya muslims from an earlier outbreak of violence. over half the refugees are children, crammed into makeshift, overcrowded camps, they lack the most basic necessities for survival. clean water, shelter and food. the un wants $430 million to support the refugees and the bangladeshi community is hosting them until the end of february. donor countries attending the pledging conference in geneva are being urged to be generous to show solidarity in the face of such an enormous humanitarian disaster. aid agencies know this crisis is likely to get worse. tens of thousands of people are waiting at the border, desperate to get across, and the only way the un can help them is in bangladesh because myanmar‘s government continues to restrict access to raa can state. the secretary of the four international development priti patel has used the united nations conference in geneva to call on the international community to step update support to bangladesh was. i asked her if the government would be offering more money to the crisis fund. we are the largest single donor to bangladesh for this crisis and as imaging hasjust said bangladesh for this crisis and as imaging has just said this bangladesh for this crisis and as imaging hasjust said this is bangladesh for this crisis and as imaging has just said this is the fastest—growing he—man terry and crisis we are seeing so we have already given £30 million —— the fastest growing humanitarian crisis. today we are announcing an additional £12 million, taking the uk contribution to £47 million. by being a leader when it comes to our aid contribution for this awful disaster, we are calling upon others in geneva today to step up and stand by the people of those that have been fleeing and the people that are now in bangladesh and stuck in the camps to be with them in their hour of need and to give them the support they need. we have already given £30 million, you are now pledging this extra money but you also said this is the biggest team and and it's getting worse so is money really the answer, what else needs to be done? there's no doubt there are a number of things we need to all that at collectively within the international community. money is important right now and your footage will have shown the appalling conditions that the rohingya people are suffering now. money will give food, water, shelter, medical needs and protection as well because most of the refugees are women and children so ensuring they are being protected is vital. there are long—term diplomatic issues that have to be addressed as well and that speaks to the burnie ‘s military. we have called upon the military. we have called upon the military to stop the atrocities, to enter the ethnic cleansing and persecution. i have also called upon the premise herself to use her voice to bea the premise herself to use her voice to be a voice for the rohingya people, to facilitate their safe passage home and give them the rights they rightly have to go back home and live in their country of origin but the international committee need to come together on this. we are working with the un and others to do absolutely everything we can to put pressure on firmer while we support the bangladesh government who are the host government who are the host government and community of in excess of 600,000 rohingya people. they are under greater pressure, we need to give them the support they need to give them the support they needin need to give them the support they need in terms of giving refuge and accommodation and shelter to people that are fleeing their homes because they are being persecuted. that are fleeing their homes because they are being persecutedlj that are fleeing their homes because they are being persecuted. i notice you use the word persecution and the phrase ethnic cleansing. is this genocide and you condemn the government for that?|j genocide and you condemn the government for that? i have been vocalin government for that? i have been vocal in terms of the actions of the atrocities conducted by the burnie —— burmese government and we are seeing ethic cleansing taking place, absolutely. the scenes are like ethnic cleansing and just the violations of human rights. people are being persecuted, women are being raped, people are being killed. this is an atrocity that has taken place killed. this is an atrocity that has ta ken place over killed. this is an atrocity that has taken place over a successive period of time and so it is for the international community to step up, give money at the geneva conference today but also to put maximum pressure on the burmese government through all the diplomatic avenues we have collectively to get them to end the persecution and violence and reclaim the voice they have taken away of the rohingya people, give them their voices back and let them go back home. the headlines on bbc newsroom live... boris johnson has urged the eu to think creatively to strike a deal on brexit — as business lobby groups call for a transition deal. a government minister backs her colleague who said the only way to deal with britons fighting for the islamic state group is to kill them. and a scottish man who was sentenced to three months injailfor touching a man's hip in a dubai bar has had the case against him dropped. patients are being encouraged to go home and rest — in order to recover from some illnesses, rather than be prescribed unnecessary antibiotics. the advice is part of a campaign by public health england aimed at limiting the spread of drug—resistant super—bugs. our health correspondent, james gallagher reports. bacteria, like these e—coli, are getting harder to treat as they evolve ways to resist antibiotics. this is where the most serious infections come for analysis and the staff at these public health england laboratories admit they're worried about growing levels of antibiotic resistance. my lab looks for resistance to the most powerful antibiotics we currently have. if go back to 2005 to 2007, we were seeing these bacteria in maybe two to four cases per year. last year we confirmed these resistant bacteria in over 2,000 cases. drug resistant infections are a growing problem. 5,000 people were killed by such infections last year. if you take e—coli in the blood stream, now four in ten cases can't be treated with the most common antibiotics. antibiotics, we're wonderful pills... using too many antibiotics increases drug resistance. this tv campaign is being launched to tell people they'll not be given a pill every time they're ill. the majority of us will get infections from time to time and we will recover because of our own immunity. the fact is if you take an antibiotic when you don't need it then you are more likely to have an infection that the antibiotics then don't work for over the coming months. health officials say we all have a part to play in preventing the rise of antibiotic resistance. an undercover investigation by the bbc has revealed that cocaine, counterfeit goods and stolen passports are being openly traded on a uk website. the inside out programme, to be broadcast on bbc one this evening, found widespread evidence of illegal activity on the classified ads site, craigslist. jonathan gibson reports. ina cumbrian in a cumbrian pub car park, i've arranged to buy some dodgy tobacco. it's counterfeit, yes? yes. the man is advertising his tobacco on craigslist, a classified ads website where i can also find class age rocks. in derby, i've arranged to buy cocaine. —— class a drugs. anyone can advertise on craigslist and they do. as the drugs, sofas, stolen passports. but what else is on craigslist? in manchester, we filmed a woman offering to launder money. in london, i meta man looking for postman to intercept bank cards. in slough, this guy keeps failing his driving test so he has placed an advert on craigslist to get someone to do it for him. the amount of organised crime there is sitting behind everything on there is frightening and it's critical that the police force or law—enforcement agencies forced the likes of craigslist to do silly about it. craigslist refused to do an interview and the company would not give us a statement. but what do the people we filmed had to save themselves? why are you doing it i'm trying to make money. for my family. but not everyone hangs around to talk. i work for the bbc and we are trying to find out why you are peddling cocaine. why is that? well, he wasn't happy about. neither was the man selling stolen passports. i'm not buying a pass for off because i work for the bbc and i wa nt to because i work for the bbc and i want to know why you are selling stolen passports. why are you doing it? the home office says it is investigating how the website is being used by criminals to facilitate crime. when blue planet appeared on our tv screens almost 20 years ago, it opened up the wonders of the ocean to millions of viewers for the first time. now — two decades later — sir david attenborough is back for a second series. for the last four years, the bbc‘s natural history film crews have been scouring the seas in search of a new cast of aquatic animals. our science editor, david shukman, went to meet the man behind the magic. hidden beneath the waves, right beneath my feet there are creatures beyond our imagination. it's always said we know more about the moon and mars than the ocean. is that really true and do you think this adventure shows that? this world is infinitely more complex than anything we've discovered out in the universe as far as i know. the degree of complexity of what we need to know or do know about the moon and mars are not very great actually because there are no life, there's no complex communities of life to know things about on those two satellites. do you think we will ever reach a point where we do know enough or is there always going to be a journey of curiosity and enquiry? as far as i can see, what we are discovering is almost always that the world is more intricate, more wonderful, more astonishing than we ever dreamed of. david, you have been involved in so many documentary series and this one, i've seen the first episode, it's completely stunning. what, for you, is the most startling revelation if you like about this new venture into the deep ocean? i think it's the degree to which marine animals communicate with one another, not only individually within a species, but also between species. a mother walrus still needs to find a place where her young can rest. there was a very moving scene in episode one of a walrus mother trying to get her calf onto a piece of ice and there wasn't much left because it's all melting. what is your sense about the scale and rate of change in, for example, the arctic? i think any sceptics that there were ten years ago, 20 years ago, about global warming and so on, climate change, and there were lots, must surely be diminishing, almost to vanishing point when you see the evidence we have collected. world scientists around the world have collected what's happened to our seas. and the fact we are responsible for that. what is it that motivates you to remain engaged at this active pace if i may say at your age? it's so wonderful, so astonishing. what more do you want out of life? this amazing astonishment and beauty and intricacy and wonder in areas we don't know about. discovery in the natural world isjust a never ending delight. the extraordinary behaviours of all these creatures doing so, they are all so beautiful and extraordinary and so unlike anything else we encounter on our dry land. the world of the underwater is just amazing. in a moment the news at one with reeta chakrabarti. first the weather with ben ridge. temperatures are going to climb a little bit over the next few days. south—westerly winds bring milder air across the country. moist air as well, so that means there will be a fairamount of well, so that means there will be a fair amount of cloud. after great start to today things have been writing up from the west and as those clear skies spread eastwards through this evening things not looking too bad you as about later on butjoe into night —— but tonight we will see outbreaks of rain, mysterious and murky. temperatures of eight celsius in aberdeen. 15 celsius in plymouth. mild air across the south—west into tomorrow morning. certainly a lot of cloud. from the london area through the mid—ones into wales, outbreaks of rain cover the odd heady burst of rain. outbreaks of rain across northern ireland and the western side of scotland where it will be windy through the first part of the david even here in inverness and aberdeen temperatures in double digits by atm in the morning and as we go on through the day we which these outbreaks of rain eastwards. what we will be left with is a mixture of sunshine and heavy showers but to the south rather cloudy and in southern areas the mildest of the weather. that's a trend as we go through the middle pa rt trend as we go through the middle part of the week. this weather from sticks with us, going northwards and a lwa ys sticks with us, going northwards and always to the south of the front. that is where we see the warmest air pumping infrom that is where we see the warmest air pumping in from the south. jury wednesday our frontal system will be lying across southern counties of england. that's also where we have the highest temperatures. further north sunshine and heavy showers. for thursday we are expecting our fronts to shift further northwards. 17 celsius in the south is what you can expect if it stays cloudy but if the sun comes out you could get temperatures into the low 20s. as we move into the weekend our front dives away to the south and there are areas of low pressure across the east of the country, introducing a north—westerly wind so the rising temperatures will not last long. it will be called in for the weekend. theresa may will update mps on brexit talks, amid a row over leaked comments made at a dinner with the eu president a german newspaper has claimed mrs may "begged" for help from jean—claude juncker. today the foreign secretary struck an upbeat note. i suggest humbly to our friends and partners in brussels that now is the time to get on with it. we'll bring you the latest from our correspondents in westminster and brussels. also this lunchtime. a new charge for owners of older, polluting cars to drive into london — they'll have to pay almost twice as much from today. the t—charge is the toughest vehicle emission surcharge in the world for very good reason. we need to have the most polluting vehicles off the streets of london. corals and other sea life are in danger

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