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pregnancy, there was concern about archie's physical dependence on that. he was monitored and then he was instantly placed into foster care. and that's when, you know, that's when i knew this is serious. that full report in 15 minutes time. plus... plus. . . and plus... and bruno is the hero of the night. frank bruno one of britain's most famous boxers of all time will be here to talk to you at10.15am. hello and welcome to the programme. we're live until iiam. throughout the morning, we'll bring you the latest news and developing stories. in around half an hour's time politicians will debate whether the use of mesh in surgery should be abandoned. it's after this programme revealed six months ago the debilitating pain it can leave people in. and not just and notjust physical pain, but mental pain as well. we'll bring you some of that debate live. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning, use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today, mps will debate the roll—out of the new combined benefit, universal credit, this afternoon. labour called for a vote on whether to pause the extension of the scheme, although the result won't be binding. the bbc understands that with the scheme facing criticism from up to 25 tory backbenchers, some changes might be made. our political guru norman smith can tell us more. what kind of changes might be made, norman? well, i think we're talking about a review, a look again at some of the controversial areas and in terms of actual concessions today, i don't think we'll get that. it will be more a sort of mood music gesture to say, "we understand the concerns you're talking billion." the whole thing will be kept under scrutiny and down the line, yes, we are prepared to consider changes. maybe even to reducing the time delay before people get universal credit which has been at the centre of so much of the criticism, the fact that you have to wait six weeks before you have to wait six weeks before you can get your first universal credit payment and a lot of demands to bring that down, maybe to four weeks, because, of course, the argument is many, many people get plunged into debt and arrears because they can't manage without getting the benefit for up to six weeks. what i think will be the focus of the government response is more likely to be saying, "look, advanced payments are available." they will be trying to give greater publicity and awareness of the fact if you are moving on to universal credit you can get an advance payment and that's given within five days. if you are in real difficulties, it can be given straightaway and so what they're doing is saying tojobcentres staff, look you have got to do more to tell claimants about the availability of the advanced payments and they are trying to do more on social media and get the citizens advice bureau to make claimants more aware of the advanced payments. that will be the real thrust of their response today. norman, thank you. norman smith at westminster. we know it is a big issue for you. get in touch with your experiences. we will talk to a conservative mp after 9.30am. he is one who does want some changes made to universal credit. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. good morning. the nhs is failing to meet key performance targets in hospitals across the uk according to a major analysis of data by the bbc. the research looked at how often health organisations achieved targets for cancer treatment, accident and emergency, and planned operations. it found that nationally england, wales and northern ireland have not hit any of the three targets for 18 months. that represents a decline in performance over four years. rob sissons reports. round the clock, the nhs is treating more patients. in the cold light of day, it's clear the pressure is mounting. the patients here notice it. nottingham is home to one of the uk's busiest accident and emergency departments. i'm in agony and they're just not quick enough. i can see it's under pressure straightaway, when i came in. there's not enough volume of people turning over very quickly in order to alleviate this kind of pressure. now, for the targets to be met nationally, the vast majority of patients have to be seen and treated promptly. individual trust performance, of course, varies when it comes to a&e waits, cancer waits, and routine operations. so, when we look across the uk, what does the bbc‘s nhs tracker reveal? four years ago, the key targets were met across england 86% of the time. this year, it's 0%. in northern ireland, they were hitting the targets 25% of the time. again, performances got worse. it's also 0%. wales in 2012—2013 didn't hit the target, and four years on, it's the same picture. scotland's health boards previously achieved 42%. now, the goals are being met 8% of the time, but that's the best in the uk. i think the challenge for lots of hospitals, ours included, has been an increase in demand and the population has got older, with more health needs, so it becomes more difficult every year to achieve some of the targets. although most patients are seen within target times, growing numbers are waiting longer for treatment. the head of amazon's media arm has resigned after allegations of sexual harassment. roy price was suspended by the company last week, after actress rose mcgowan said he'd ignored her claims that she'd been raped by the disgraced hollywood movie producer harvey weinstein. amazon was working on a tv series with the weinstein company at the time. andrew plant reports. amazon executive, roy price, head of its media division, another powerful player in the entertainment industry, now fallen from grace. price was first accused of harassing a producer on one of amazon's shows. hours later, actress rose mcgowan tweeted claims that she had told roy price she was raped by harvey weinstein. she says she was completely ignored. like much of the american entertainment industry, amazon has close ties to weinstein, a name now so toxic, many projects are being cancelled. while the industry pushes for a new normal, where female actors no longer stay silent. there has obviously been a really sad side to this week, a particularly tragic side, but there has also been an inspiring side as well, seeing all the women band together, and notjust women, men banding together as well, and wanting to have something positive come out of something so horrible. i feel empowered that we can do something about it. legal action needs to be put in place to protect people on film sets. we just need to make a community of support where people feel like they can go and find support and find help and get answers, is this normal, without having to be on the cover of a magazine talking about it. weinstein has unequivocally denied claims of rape. he is being investigated over multiple accusations. a name behind so many hollywood hits now a byword for a seedy, a name behind so many hollywood hits, now a byword for a seedy, sordid past in an industry determined to past in an industry determined to change. an alternative version of the family courts is getting new government funding. £6 million of a new life chances fund is going to fdac, the family drug and alcohol court. the system is designed to help people with addictions keep their children rather than having them taken into care. more on the programme in the next few minutes. a usjudge has ruled against the latest version of president trump's travel ban, just hours before it was due to come into force. the judge said the ban failed to demonstrate that citizens from the six mainly muslim countries posed a threat to the united states — and blocked it on all the countries except north korea and venezuela. the justice department said it would appeal. politicians will debate whether the use of mesh in surgery should be abandoned after this programme revealed six months ago the debilitating pain it can leave people in. mesh surgery is a medical procedure used to treat incontinence and prolapsed, but a growing number of women have reported complications since having the procedure with many needing wheelchairs, being unable to work or to have sex. the leader of the chinese communist party said his country had made great accomplishments despite challenges from a weak global economy. president xi received an applause. more than 40,000 people a year in england are getting fines of £100 meant to stop fraudsters from getting nhs dental treatment. the fines are being applied by a random screening process that checks on whether people going to the dentist are really eligible for free care. dentists say rising numbers of people with dementia or those with learning difficulties, are being unfairly fined for something as simple as ticking a wrong box in confusing paperwork. this year's man booker prize, one of the literary world's most prestigious awards, has gone to the american author george saunders for his novel lincoln in the bardo. he's the second us author to take home the £50,000 prize. the book is based on the true story of abraham lincoln's grief following the death of his young son in 1862. the prize was presented in london last night by the duchess of cornwall. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. let's get some sport now with hugh. it is looking good in the champions league. well, it was quite a night for three british clubs in the champions league. very good results indeed for spurs, manchester city and liverpool — they didn't all win but when you consider spurs had never even scored a goal against the 12—time european champions real madrid — their point away in the bernabeu looks all the better. spurs took the lead against the run of play really thanks to a raphael varane own goal before none other than the world's best player cristiano ronaldo stepped up to equalise from the penalty spot. a draw was a fair result. manchester city faced napoli. it endedin manchester city faced napoli. it ended in a 2—1 win. napoli scored a penalty and missed one on the night. disappointment for them. there were no missed opportunities for liverpool. they got theirfirst win opportunities for liverpool. they got their first win in the competition last night and they took the goal scoring headlines. alex 0xlade—chamberlain with his first goalfor alex 0xlade—chamberlain with his first goal for liverpool. that result is the biggest away win by an english team in the history of the european cup. we spoke a few times about it. sometimes the wonderful history of this club and to write history, it will probably be difficult to be that. it's quite rare that you win 7—0! it is, indeed. the big clubs showing they are likely to have a say in this competition. three more clubs in champions league action including manchester united. what hasjose mourinho been saying about his future? yes, plenty more to come. jose mourinho. never short of a sound bite or two. he will take his manchester united team to his native portugal to face their champions, benfica, but over the international break he was on french tv speaking about the improvements being made at the cash—rich club paris st germain. he said he wouldn't be staying at manchester united for the rest of his career. much was made in the press about that and jose mourinho wasn't impressed. if i want to finish my career it two, three, four, or five years, finish my career it two, three, four, orfive years, i finish my career it two, three, four, or five years, i would say, yes my ambition is to end my career at manchester united. i think i'm going to be here 15 years, minimum. here in football. in the job. and i think it's impossible to stay 17 years in the same club. i think it's an impossible mission. alex ferguson did it! chelsea are going to host roma and celtic are in germany to face the european giants bayern munich. an important day for the reputation of the football association because of investigations into the former england women's manager mark sampson. fill us in. it is a big day. the fa didn't cover itself in glory with the handling of the sacking of the former women's head coach, mark sampson. all the allegations of bullying and discrimination, later a select committee will hear from aluca and from her team—mate before they put questions to the fa's important figures. that includes the chairman greg clark, the chief executive martin glenn as well, sampson denies the allegation. he was cleared of discrimination by two separate inquiries. he was sacked last month for inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour in a previous job. for inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour in a previousjob. he won't be speaking in front of the committee later, but it should be an extremely revealing day. the fa will disclose the findings of that reopened investigation into the bullying claims after they've heard new evidence. we will see if football is left with more questions than answers later. thank you very much. this morning some good news to report — how an alternative version of the family courts is helping people with addictions keep their children rather than have them taken into care. it does so by guiding mums and dads to stop using drugs and alcohol or at least stabilise themselves — so that children can either remain or return to the care of their parents. it's been called "strikingly successful" and this morning the govermentt is announcing an extra £6.2 million of funding to fdac — the family drug and alcohol court. 0ur reporter catrin nye has had unique access to those who have used it. john's 49 and lives in paddington in london. i started using drugs kind of at the end of school — about 14, 15, i6, experimenting with weed and alcohol. and then, a few years later, i started taking heroin. a couple of my friends had started using it and it kind of looked attractive to me and i thought i wanted to be one of the chaps. very, very quickly i knew i was in trouble. i knew i was kind of out of my depth a bit. i started getting dependent, physically dependent, on it. i couldn't really function well without it. my wages couldn't kind of fund my habit, so i had to start doing other things. committing crime, stealing from family members. john remained an addict for over a decade. then, when he was 30, his partner, who was also an addict, fell pregnant. they had a girl called daniella. we really tried to do normal life, but itjust didn't really work. the combination of the drugs and what went with that. the lifestyle with that, and then trying to be a parent and hold down a job. it wasn't doable. eventually, when she was around seven, family members stepped in and said, look, you need to sort yourself out. and that started the ball rolling for daniella's mum to get clean. she went off and went into treatment and i didn't. my using went to another level. not only was i using heroin, i was using crack, i was using prescription drugs, i was using alcohol. i was homeless. you know, iwasjust kind of floating around. and as a result of that, i didn't really see daniella for a couple of years, maybe. john now found himself preparing for the birth of a son, archie, with another addict, who had already had several children put in care. it wasn't kind of about... sort of, you know, we'll really sort it out and we'll get clean and will be able to turn things around. it was to get somewhere to live, really. that was the main focus at the time and, as i said, i was so messed up, i kind of went along about thought it's not a bad plan. his mum had been on the heroin substitute, methadone, throughout the pregnancy, so there was a little bit of concern about archie's physical dependence on that, so he was monitored for ten days. then he was instantly placed into foster care. straightaway. yeah. you know, it was... i'm sorry. can ijust stop for a minute? yeah? cheers. and that's when i knew this is serious, you know, this is really serious. john was assigned to a new type of family court with the hope of helping him keep archie. the family drug and alcohol court, or fdac. i often think it must be terrifying to be a parent. to have to come to court knowing that, at the end of the proceedings, they may well lose their children. judge nicholas crichton founded the court in 2008, after witnessing years of children being taken from their parents as a family courtjudge. the system, historically, has been built on an adversarial process, whichjust deals with the problem that it sees. it sees a child not being taken care of and so the system removes the child to a safe place. we, the judges who sit in fdac, try to give them some sort of reassurance when they first arrive that this is a process that genuinely wants to help. the way normal family court works is you are just represented by your solicitor. you're not really given a voice. everything has to go through your solicitor. hearings every three months. in that big gap, a lot can happen. but fdac was totally different to that. we bring a parent into court every two weeks. most of those hearings take place without their lawyers, so the parents begin to find their voice and they begin to become confident in a system that they really understand is trying to help them. in partnership with the fdac team, with the local authority social work team, the parents and the judge, we seek to find solutions to the problems. fdac is different from the standard family court process. it creates a team trying to fix addictions and return children — social workers, psychiatrists, as well as experts in substance misuse, domestic violence, finance and housing. parents see the same judge threw out at regular short meetings, aiming to work as a team. "you need to address your drug problem — we can help you do that." it was going into detox for a short time for 12 days, and that it was going into a day programme. and it was consistent. you always knew what was happening. it's just makes total sense to actually tackle the problem that is kind of right at the front. dr mike shaw is a child psychiatrist and co—director of the family drug and alcohol court national unit. we know that something like between one in four and one in three of women who have a child removed by the court today will be back and have another child removed in the next two or three years, usually for the same reason. this system of intervention and help with recovery is more intensive. how much more expensive is this way of doing things? people keep their figures in different ways, but the intervention itself costs about £13,000 over a year's period. a good part of that expense would be spent anyway for a standard care proceedings. how much? i don't know, maybe £5,000, something like that. that's quite a significant extra cost. more than twice as much. it's more than twice as much, yeah. but... that's not a tiny difference, is it? well, it is in the sum of things, it is in the sum of things. the overall cost of the care proceedings might be £100,000. the family drug and alcohol courts are now getting £6.2 million of government money. it's used it as an usual way, though. private investors pay the upfront costs and, if the process works, they make a profit. they get paid back by the local authority and the government. if it fails, they don't get that money back. it's a far more complicated way of operating. it very much puts everybody on their mettle. you need to be constantly checking the quality of your work and collecting data and so one and so forth. it's a challenging environment to work in. we're in challenging economic times and this seems to be a creative way to put much—needed capital into important social projects. i have seen mothers who have been heroin addicted from the age of ten, children who sleep on urine—sodden beds. nobody has bothered to bath them or feed them properly. the homes are filthy. there is no food in the fridge. the toilets are blocked and not clean. because their parents are so involved in the world of drugs that they are not providing the basic level of care that a child needs. we can get bogged down talking about money, but we are also talking about saving suffering and saving the opportunity for families, well, children to grow up in their own families. these are incredibly important outcomes. this is definitely not a soft option. this is really hard work. but if they are willing to engage in that movie hard work, then we give them all the support they need. my case lasted about 16 months. he was placed with me. he was 16 months old and i was about... i was just over a year clean. research has shown this approach does have better results, with parents more likely to stay clean and more families reunited. daniella is now 18 and archie is eight and lives full—time with his dad. who's getting first pancake? me. i'm hungry. i've been starving. oh, yeah, that used to be the argument, didn't it? dibs, is it? you have to say "dibs first panca ke". these are really good. you could be a cartoonist. before i was eight, it isjust kind of a blur to me. so i don't really remember that much. trying to make up for lost time. with her. it's going to take a long time to kind of rebuild that, but, that's what we're doing. yeah. i've got my two children, i work, i pay my bills, do lots of fun stuff. you know, the way i live my life today is totally different from how i was nearly eight years ago. more to come after 10am and if you've used the family drugs and alcohol courts really keen to hearfrom you, do get in touch in the usual ways. a couple of messages — alison says a really humbling story. peter says, a brilliant report treating drug addicts with humanity, wisdom and purpose. still to come: the many in charge of universal credit will give a statement to mp5. we'll hear it live. and, you know who he is. frank bruno will be here to talk to you at about 10. 10.15. get in touch with your questions. time for the latest news, here's annita. there will be a debate on the government's plans to extend its universal credit benefits scheme later this afternoon. labour which called the debate and some conservative mps have expressed concerns. a vote on the issue will be non—binding. the bbc understands that with the scheme facing criticism from up to 25 tory backbenchers, some changes might be made. the nhs is failing to meet key performance targets in hospitals across the uk according to a major analysis of data by the bbc. the research looked at how often health organisations achieved targets for cancer treatment, accident and emergency, and planned operations. it found that nationally england, wales and northern ireland have not hit any of the three targets for 18 months. that represents a decline in performance over four years. the head of amazon's media arm has resigned after allegations of sexual harassment. roy price was suspended by the company last week, after actress rose mcgowan said he'd ignored her claims that she'd been raped by the disgraced hollywood movie producer harvey weinstein. a usjudge has ruled against the latest version of president trump's travel ban, just hours before it was due to come into force. the ban now targets travellers from iran, libya, syria, yemen, somalia, chad, north korea and some people from venezuela. politicians will debate whether the use of mesh in surgery should be abandoned after this programme revealed six months ago the debilitating pain it can leave people in. mesh surgery is a medical procedure used to treat incontinence and prolapsed, but a growing number of women have reported complications since having the procedure with many needing wheelchairs, being unable to work or to have sex. an alternative version of the family courts is getting new government funding. £6.2 million of a new life chances fund is going to fdac — the family drug and alcohol court. the system is designed to help people with addictions keep their children rather than having them taken into care. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10am. here's some sport now with hugh. aluko let's start with a great night for british clubs in the champions league. tottenham's harry kane says their 1—1 draw at real madrid showed they can handle playing at the highest level. the result moved spurs ahead of madrid at the top of group h at the halfway stage. liverpool bossjurgen klopp said it was "nice to write a piece of history" as the reds thrashed slovenian side maribor 7—0 to record the biggest away win by an english team in the history of the competition. manchester city beat napoli 2—1 in a performance described by manager pep guardiola as "perfect." they now require just a point to go through to the knock—out stages. manchester united, chelsea and celtic are all in action tonight. a parliamentary inquiry is expected to hear new evidence in the investigations into the former england women's manager mark sampson's alleged racism and bullying of striker eni aluko. sampson denies the allegations and has previously been cleared by two inquiries. that's it for now. we will have more sport after 10am. the latest unemployment figures. it fell again. unemployment fell by 52,000 between june and august this year. it is 1.4 million people according to official figures. unemployment has fallen by 52,000 between june and figures. unemployment has fallen by 52,000 betweenjune and august this year. 1.4 million people are unemployed in this country. mps will debate calls to pause the roll—out of universal credit today and the pressure is coming not just from the opposition, but tory mps as well who are concerned that the new system still punishes people who earn money on top of their benefits and takes far too long to deliver a first payment. before that debate, the minister responsible, david gauke, is appearing in front of a group of mps on the work and pensions select committee. we will bring you some of that live as soon as mr gauke starts talking. let's talk to mr mcpartland. good morning victoria. why would anyone design a benefit that means you have to wait six weeks to get your first payment? i don't know. that's one of the problems that the secretary of state is going to have in explaining in what way we are going to move forward. obviously, it was one of your own that designed it? we are a broad church and i think what we are interested in doing is getting the benefits to work correctly. it's important that we reduce the waiting time from six weeks down to four weeks because the principle of being paid in arrears is understandable, most people are paid monthly, but people don't understand they find it very difficult to swallow why they have got to wait six weeks for the first payment. and what do you think of the fact that you have to wait six weeks? i don't agree with it. i think it should be four weeks, just paid monthly arrears like everybody else is paid in terms of work. remember the people on universal credit are in work and are being paid anyway. ok. so, is somebody listening to you? is david gauke the work and pensions secretary listening to you about this reducing it from waiting from six weeks to four weeks? well, i mean, i hope so. i have spoken to ministers about it. i've raised it myself in parliament a number of times. my other issue is the taper rate and it is at 63 pence in the pound... i want to ask you about the taper rate as well in a moment. but let me read you this tweet from wayne. wayne says, "making people wait six weeks for their first "making people wait six weeks for theirfirst universal "making people wait six weeks for their first universal credit payment is deliberate. it is designed to put people off from claiming."|j is deliberate. it is designed to put people off from claiming." i don't think that's true. it is probably some kind of admin issue. i think it is something i have asked the secretary of state to explain and others have asked him to explain. and he is probably asking his officials to explain why they have to wait six weeks instead of four. does it show the conservative government as being out—of—touch. none of you have got any idea what it is like to wait for money when you have lost yourjob and when you haven't got anything? you have lost yourjob and when you haven't got anything ?|j you have lost yourjob and when you haven't got anything? i don't think that's fair. 14 million people voted for the conservative party in the recent election. the highest vote share since 1983. i am opposing the six weeks as a number of my collea g u es six weeks as a number of my colleagues are disappointed about it. i think it's about improving the conservative —— proving the conservative —— proving the conservative party licence. right, the taper rate then. just explain this for our audience. many people will be experiencing it, but explain it for those who want to learn more. 0k, it for those who want to learn more. ok, if you work more than 16 hours ona number of ok, if you work more than 16 hours on a number of benefits, you will lose your housing benefit for example and then have to claim it back so it's quite difficult to and it prevents people working longer. the idea behind universal credit is six benefits are rolled into one and you can work additional hours, but for each additional hours you work you lose some of your benefits, it doesn't matter if you work over 16 hours in one week so you don't have the big cliff edge cut off. the taper rate is set at 63 pence in the pound so that's 63% on net income. hang on. pause there. just to be clear and hang on. pause there. just to be clearand in plain hang on. pause there. just to be clear and in plain english. so what does that mean you are earning if the taper rate is 63%? well, you would be picking up 37 pence... yes. you wouldn't be picking that up victoria, that's 63% is on net income. so you will have paid tax possibly on the first bit before you are paid 63%. it is 63% on earnings after tax if you then require to pay tax. and what do you think... it sounds complicated. no, we understand it. what do you think of it? it's awful. i raised it a number of times in parliament. sorry to interrupt. norman smith has breaking news at westminster to do with this. ijust heard david gauke has been speaking about this and he says the government is going to scrap the premium phone helpline which claimants have to ring if they're having trouble applying for universal credit. at the moment, they have been charged 55 pence a minute and there has been a huge dust—up about that. a lot of people unhappy that claimants, people who haven't got money are having to pay that huge amount. mr gauke said in the last minute, 0k, fair enough, it will be free. it will be free. so, thatis will be free. it will be free. so, that is a big concession, but let's just have a listen to it. he is being questioned about this now. but why should people wait six weeks? first of all, on payment time, i dare say we'll talk about this in greater detail, but we are improving on the payment timing. in terms of the six—week wait, it consists of three elements. there are seven waiting days at the beginning where people essentially are not eligible for benefits. that's the principle of waiting days has been in place for a very long time. i think from 1911. but... but not seven weeks? waiting days was increased in 2015. there is then a month period which is at the heart of universal credit if you like which is a period of time in which we can assess what people's earnings are and what their income is. so that there is then we can then assess what the correct payment of universal credit would be. for the first month, period, for the first assessment period i should say, after that month has elapsed, it is then a question of making the assessment, and paying the amount through the ba cs system for which we allow seven days. so that's why the six—week period comes from. but cani the six—week period comes from. but can ijust the six—week period comes from. but can i just correct the six—week period comes from. but can ijust correct one thing? the six—week period comes from. but can i just correct one thing? people don't have to wait six weeks before getting a payment. there has always been part of the system that advanced payments are available for those who want it and as you are aware, we are increasing the awareness of advances, we are seeing increases in the take—up of advances, but we have also refreshed the guidance the dwp staff to ensure that those advanced payments are properly taken up by those who need it. i'm conscious that there clearly have been cases of people who should have been cases of people who should have an advanced, but for one reason 01’ have an advanced, but for one reason or another haven't had an advance and i'm keen to correct that. so, advance payments and it's great that we're offering some people some money and i know for a fact that they are now being advertised widely. i was fortunate enough to go toa widely. i was fortunate enough to go to a regional conference and the regional director was telling every jobcentre coach in the room, you offer it to everybody. i don't want anybody going hungry. so they are widely offering that now and that's great. first question is, the advanced payment can be up top 50%. how are we able to calculate that on day one, but not what the person might be entitled to? it is 5096 of the estimate. you're right, that the final assessment depends upon what people's earnings are over the whole month. but it is possible to make an assessment of what we think it will be. i mean, clearly if people's incomes are greater over the month then that is reflected in the final award, but it is a 50% of the estimate as to what people's income will be and therefore, what the universal credit payment. we are able to estimate what somebody will earn? we are able to make an estimate particularly given that, you know, it is like david gauke being pressed there. he hasn't confirmed the government's going to do anything about that. he has been setting the reasons why there is the six weeks delay which is because there are seven weeks of admin to process the claim and then there is a seven day process to carry out checks and the month is made a month in arrears which is why you have got the six—week dlavement no concession, beyond saying we want to tell people about advanced payments, we want people to be more aware of them, but there was a concession on this very, very contentious area of the helpline. a lot of people unhappy that people on benefits should have to ring up a premium phone helpline paying 55 pence a minute. he has listened to the concerns and backed over that, but not so far over the really crunch issue over the six—week delay. not so far over the really crunch issue over the six-week delay. ok, well, let's ask stephen mcpartland, conservative mp, it doesn't sound at this stage anyway, that you're going to get the reduction from six weeks to get the reduction from six weeks to four weeks before the first payment is made? yes, i think what i took from that victoria, it is clear that the six weeks is a decision they have made. it's not something that they are required to do technical reasons. they can reduce it to four weeks so i'm going to continue to have it reduced from six weeks down to four weeks. continue to have it reduced from six weeks down to four weeksm continue to have it reduced from six weeks down to four weeks. it looks like david gauke was saying the six weeks stays? i led the campaign against the tax credits and they changed their mind and mr gauke was the minister responsible at the time for that as well. we have had some previous so i'm confident that we can run a campaign and win in the end. ok. your reaction to the fact that the premium phone helpline costing people 55 pence a minute has been scrapped, well it will be free from now on? ijust been scrapped, well it will be free from now on? i just think it is ridiculous the government have people—up helplines. they should all be scrapped. i don't understand why the government has them. stephen mcpartland, conservative mp for steve na g e. mcpartland, conservative mp for stevenage. we will bring you a full report tomorrow on universal credit and how including how claimants have faced hunger and the prospect of losing their home while waiting for the first universal credit payment to come through. here is an idea of what they had to say. last weekend we had no food. 0n the saturday we were walking down the street and she was searching through bins to see if there was any food. it was awful. it broke my heart. sunday, there was no food. she was going to bed, her stomach was rumbling, "i'm hungry. i'm hungry." she had no food, saturday, sunday and went to school, really, really hungry. you take her to bed and her tummy is rumbling and you have just given her water, but she wants food and you can't. i can't go to the shop and steal. it's awful. i can't keep asking neighbours for food because i shouldn't have to live like this. it's awful. i've never struggled like this before in my life. i've never been in this situation where i could lose my home. you know, it's a big thing. i'll die on them streets. and if i do get evicted, i don't know what i'll do. i don't know where to go for help. the chance is 50—50, if i'm going to be homeless or not. where do i go? i don't know. i daren't think that far ahead. kids... kids shouldn't have to go through... kids shouldn't have to go through this. no one should, really. and that full report on the programme tomorrow and norman will keep listening to the work and pensions secretary david gauke who is appearing in front of mps right now and bring you the key bits through the programme this morning. you won't miss a trick, i promise you. as further allegations of sexual harassment about harvey weinstein emerge, we will bring you more details later. only one nhs trust or health board in the uk has met its key performance targets every month in the last 18 months. that is out of a total of more than 150 looked at in a bbc analysis. overall the performance of the nhs against three key targets — a&e, cancer treatment and planned operation waits — has slumped right across the uk. none of the key targets, set by government — have been hit in england, wales and northern ireland for the past year. 0nly scotland fared marginally better, achieving its national four hour a&e target a few times this summer. wales and northern ireland are the worst at achieving their targets — you have to go back to 2008 to find the last time one of the current targets was hit. england shows the biggest deterioration in performance — it went from hitting 86% of its targets in 2012—2013 to none in the past 12 months. the three key areas which have been measured are a&e, cancer treatment and planned operations. we can talk to three consultants now from each of those areas. jane maher is a cancer doctor and nigel harrison works in a&e. talking to us from chertsey in surrey we have ashwin unnithan, who is an orthopaedic surgeon. yourjob is to make sure that your a&e department sticks thank you very much forjoining us. jayne maher, your reaction to the targets not being met? broadly speaking, it reflects the stress the nhs is underand speaking, it reflects the stress the nhs is under and has particularly in relation to cancer been, i would say, there are three major factors in relation to the cancer waiting times in terms of the fact that first of all there is a shortage of key staff, particularly diagnostics staff or making the diagnosis and doing the specialist tests you need before you start your cancer treatment. the fact that cancer treatment. the fact that cancer treatment and management even over the last few years has got a lot more complicated so that you may need 20 different health care professionals at three different hospitals before you can actually get started on your anticancer treatment. the third factor is that people with cancer now have other illnesses, so two thirds will have other illnesses like heart disease or diabetes which has to be sorted out and managed before they start their treatment. those are the explanations as far as you are concerned. are the targets helpful? the first thing to be said is that two months is a long time to wait from having a diagnosis of cancer to starting your anti——cancer treatment. so i know as an oncololgist that it's very scary during that period of time and if it goes wrong for you, you see someone, that trust is then broken down. the targets a re that trust is then broken down. the targets are difficult. they hold people to account. the fact that you can see the targets deteriorating is very important because it shows the stress that the system is under. that is important in terms of holding the government to account to make sure that cancer is improving. in some area, they haven't met the targets since 2008, so there's not much holding to account going on? that is true. nigel harrison, your job is to make sure your a&e department sticks to the four—hour target getting patients treated or admitted in that time. when a patient comes in, we have the booking in time, triage, to being assessed by us. an hour, an hour—and—a—half average. that means i have an hour—and—a—half or so to give my colleagues to whom they were referred to get them admitted to a ward. so actually two hours to sort them out. quite hard? quite hard, yes. do you think the target is good? yes. it focuses resours and it isa good? yes. it focuses resours and it is a challenge but if it were to be removed, we'd lose sight of that important need to get patients through the system in a brisk fashion. i mean, iwouldn't want through the system in a brisk fashion. i mean, i wouldn't want to sit forfour hours fashion. i mean, i wouldn't want to sit for four hours in fashion. i mean, i wouldn't want to sit forfour hours in an fashion. i mean, i wouldn't want to sit for four hours in an emergency department waiting with a sprained ankle so it's helpful in that sense. i want to see the target resourced sufficiently. that means more staff? more nurses, yes. unfortunately, thatis more nurses, yes. unfortunately, that is needed. absolutely. let me bring in ashwin, thank you for talking to us. from your point of view, what is the point of targets if they are missed with such regularity? i think targets are important to have a broad outline of what a patient is experiencing. we are trying a very intelligent way of managing the targets. yes, it can be frustrating, as the previous guests said. there are not straightforward cases. fundamentally, targets, some amounts of them should be there so, asa amounts of them should be there so, as a system we increase our efficiency in working, for example we are using something called virtual clinics where the patient doesn't come and see us, so these kind of things decrease the kind of patients entered on the system. we use a huge triage system, we have co nsulta nt use a huge triage system, we have consultant therapist and gp sitting together so we try to put them in the right place. fundamentally targets a re the right place. fundamentally targets are important as long as they are resourced and also it gives they are resourced and also it gives the hospital an opportunity to work more efficiently. understood. i'm going to let you go because you are clearly working and we appreciate your time talking to us live from the hospital, ashwin, the orthopaedic surgeon. the department of health says hospitals across the country treat hundreds of thousands more people within four hours in a&e departments than they did five years ago. they say they perform more operations, despite shortages of staff and resource issues. so someone somewhere is doing an incredible job someone somewhere is doing an incrediblejob in the nhs? someone somewhere is doing an incredible job in the nhs? the unsung heroes are the nhs workers who've been putting more effort in and time to make sure targets are met even in the challenging environment of challenges of the trust. so working over shift? yes. that happens regularly? even during a shift, not taking breaks. they're expected to take ten—minute lunch. i've never taken a one hour break in the nhs. the people who work in the nhs want to do the best under really trying circumstances. you say unsung but not to patients hopefully. correct. if you want to see how your nhs service is performing, you can go to the nhs tracker. really interesting, that. thank you. coming up, frank bruno's plans to train and he's written a book about his life, he mentions when he was sectioned. further sexual harassment allegations have emerged in hollywood. roy price, the head of amazon studios, has resigned over allegations he sexually harassed isa hackett, a producer on the amazon series the man in the high castle. jennifer lawrence has described how she was forced to take part in nude line—ups which she says were degrading and humiliating. game of thrones actor lena headey, who plays cersei lannister on the show, has accused producer harvey weinstein of sexual harassment. she says he was "furious" after she resisted his sexual advances and that she was left feeling powerless. dreamworks film studio chairjeffrey katzenberg said this of weinstein. "make no mistake about it, he is a monster." saying he'd been protected by other men who he described as a "pack of wolves". screenwriter scott rosenberg said he was aware of weinstein's "dreadful" behaviour and said "everybody" else knew, too. he went on to say "‘i kept my mouth shut‘ "i was there and i saw you. and i talked about it with you," he wrote. "you, the big producers; you, the big directors; you, the big agents; you, the big financiers. "and you, the big rival studio chiefs; you, the big actors; you, the big actresses; you, the big models. you, the big journalists; you, the big screenwriters; you, the big rock stars; you, the big restaurateurs; you, the big politicians. " he said others chose to ignore what was going on because they were enjoying themselves and because women were told it would ruin their careers if they said anything. at the end of his post, scott rosenberg apologised for not doing anything. i reaped the rewards and i kept my mouth shut," he said. "and for that, once again, i am sorry. lucinda adams is here and has been looking at the latest developments. fill us in on the newest revelations? let's talk firstly about the latest allegations by lena heady. she took to twitter yesterday to reveal she was left in tears and left completely powerless after harvey weinstein asked her up to his hotel room after a breakfast meeting ina hotel room after a breakfast meeting in a hotel. she said he wanted to look at a script. she said her conversation shifted to her love life and she felt uncomfortable. she took the decision to speak out after she was in a lift with him. she said, i'm not here for anything other than work, please know that i'm not going anywhere where you, just here for work. she said he was furious. they didn't enter the hotel because his key card didn't work. he grabbed her in the lobby and said, don't tell anyone about this, your agent, not your manager. she burst into tears. what is the story with amazon? the accusation with roy price, he has resigned now after this allegation. it's not going to stop at harvey weinstein. a total of 40 women now accusing harvey weinstein of misconduct. potentially that could grow? we have new revelations every day, speaking out of women every day. more women are encouraged to come forward. us and uk police are looking into allegations and some big name stars like angelina jolie gwyneth pal trowel and rose mcgowan. the metropolitan police are looking into accusations, one into a woman who said weinstein raped her when he visited her flat in the 805. weinstein denies all the claims. thank you very much. thank you very much. thank you very much. thank you very much for your comments on universal credit. the work and pensions secretary is being questioned by a committee of mp5 right now in the commons about things like why it takes 5ix right now in the commons about things like why it takes six weeks before you get your first payment and why more people aren't getting access to the advanced payments. he's confirmed this morning that the premium phone helpline which costs 55p a minute to ring is now going to be free. a5hley on facebook says i was on universal credit and wasn't told about any advance payments. my personal life became so bad, it made me go into a deep state of depression. i rang the number and told them the state of my personal life, they didn't seem bothered. they told me to speak to my local authority to get a discretionary payment. the council told me it was the dwp who needed to deal with it. i was past from pillar to post for three weeks. the scheme was so bad, ican three weeks. the scheme was so bad, i can see why people don't claim. the government need to speak to the people it's affecting most. this e—mailer, last year after i lost my job i applied for universal credit. after being told i'd have to wait 5ix after being told i'd have to wait six weeks, although i could aplay foran six weeks, although i could aplay for an advance of two weeks' money, this was not enough to survive on. when the advance arrived, the dwp staff were not clear about paying it back so soon or paying it back full stop. they are a disgrace. this e—mailfrom mary, stop. they are a disgrace. this e—mail from mary, the stop. they are a disgrace. this e—mailfrom mary, the whole benefits system needs to be fixing. i returned from a gap year after living in the uk for all of 23 years of my life and whilst looking for a job i applied to have universal credit or jobseeker‘s allowance, job i applied to have universal credit orjobseeker's allowance, to be told i was a foreign resident and wasn't entitled to anything for three months. how can i be classed the same as someone coming into the ukfor the same as someone coming into the uk for the first time. the whole system needs looking at. thank you for those. keep them coming in. we'll bring you the latest news and sport at ten. before that, here is the weather with carol. this morning we have some rain around. some has been heavy, but over the next few hours it will turn that bit lighter and it's fairly sporadic. this lovely picture shows the rain in norfolk, across northern england we have had sunshine, a lovely start to the day in cumbria, albeit on the cool side. the cloud will build through the course of the day across the north of england. it's coming up from the south. the rain turns lighter through the day. asivity drifts to the north sea, it will leave cloud, but eso, it will be thick enough for the odd spot of rain. the patchy fog continues to lift into the afternoon. rain across the south—east. cloud and drizzle here. brighter skies across the channel islands and also the isles of scilly. across the south—west, although it will be a bright afternoon, here and there we'll see some sunny spells develop. the same for wales. a bright afternoon with sunny spells. cloud thick enough for the odd spot of drizzle now and again. brightening up drizzle now and again. brightening up nicely in northern ireland with some sunshine. the rain weakening in northern scotland. across—the—boarders into northern england, again you can see how the cloud builds as we go through the course of the day. you could see the odd spot of rain there too. tonight, we see mist and fog patches forming across england and wales. by the end of the night, most of it will be on high ground. we have areas of rain crossing us. tomorrow it's a messy picture with a bit of cloud around, areas of rain, some brighter spells coming through. heavier rain coming in across northern ireland, spreading into the south—west and also south wales, accompanied by gusty winds. could hit gale force gusts across the south—western approaches. things liven up. on friday, we start off with showers. then for most, with a ridge of high pressure coming across us, it will be a dry day with some sunny spells, but later in the day, you can see what is coming in behind my back. we have some rain and again some strengthening winds. this is courtesy of this area of low pressure, the exact positioning of it will change but it will bring wet and windy weather across the uk, particularly strong winds across south wales and also some southern counties of england where we are looking at high tides from dorset to sussex, so that could bring localised coastal flooding, something to keep a close eye on. hello, it's wednesday, it's10am, i'm victoria derbyshire. the universal credit helpline, which charged people 55 pence a minute to call will now be free. i have been in this situation where i could lose my home. it's a big thing. i'll die on them streets and ifido thing. i'll die on them streets and if i do get evicted, i don't know what i'll do. 0ver reducing the six—week delay for claimants, but rebels threaten to keep up the pressure. also today, we will look at courts trying to help pa rents will look at courts trying to help parents who are addicted to drugs and alcohol, keep care of their children. his mum had been on heroin substitute methadone throughout the pregnancy, so there was a little bit of concern about archie's dependence on that so he was monitored for ten days and then he was instantly placed into foster care. and that's when i knew this is serious. we will be talking to a woman who lost her child because of her drug and alcohol addiction. and... and... and bruno is the hero of the night. british boxing legend frank bruno will be here in the next half an hour to talk to you. i'm really looking forward to meeting him. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the government has announced that a phone line which charges claimants to raise issues about the government's controversial universal credit benefit system is to be made free. following claims that calls are costing up to 55 pence a minute. mps will debate the government's flagship welfare policy later amid growing concerns that people are waiting too long for their money. the bbc understands that with the scheme facing criticism from up to 25 tory backbenchers, some changes might be made. the nhs is failing to meet key performance targets in hospitals across the uk according to a major analysis of data by the bbc. the research looked at how often health organisations achieved targets for cancer treatment, accident and emergency, and planned operations. it found that nationally england, wales and northern ireland have not hit any of the three targets for 18 months. that represents a decline in performance over four years. unemployment fell by 52,000 between june and august to 1.4 million. the jobless rate remains at 1.3%. total earnings including bonuses rose by 2.296 in earnings including bonuses rose by 2.2% in the three month period. the head of amazon's media arm has resigned after allegations of sexual harassment. roy price was suspended by the company last week, after an actress said he'd ignored her claims that she'd been raped by the disgraced hollywood movie producer harvey weinstein. politicians will debate whether the use of mesh in surgery should be abandoned after this programme revealed six months ago the debilitating pain it can leave people in. mesh surgery is a medical procedure used to treat incontinence and prolapse, but a growing number of women have reported complications since having the procedure with many needing wheelchairs, being unable to work or to have sex. an alternative version of the family courts is getting new government funding. a £6 million of a new life chances fund is going to fdac, the family drug and alcohol court. the system is designed to help people with addictions keep their children rather than having them taken into care. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30am. martin e—mailed about universal credit. he says, "i am a fairly educated man. last year i was unemployed and i ended up on universal credit. it was the stuff of nightmares from 1st september 2015 to 5th january 2017 i was moved from pillar to post until i demanded to speak to a senior manager at the dwp. instead of investigating they deposited £1600 for five dwp. instead of investigating they deposited £1600 forfive months." . ican deposited £1600 forfive months." . i can tell you it's a disaster." if you are getting in touch, you're welcome. use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport now with hugh. it was a successful night for english teams in the champions league. tottenham had the ominous task of going to spain to face the real madrid. but they managed to take the lead in the first half through a raphael varane own goal. both sides are unbeaten in the tournament this year and they were level before the break thanks to a cristiano ronaldo penalty. so 1—1 it ended — the two sides have a 6 point lead at the top of group h. liverpool are top of group e on goal difference after thrashing maribor 7—0 in slovenia in the biggest away win by an english team in the history of the competition. it took them just three minutes to take the lead with roberto firmino ending his run of six games without a goal for club and country. england's alex 0xlade—chamberlain got his first goal for the club following his £35 million summer move from arsenal. we spoke about it and it's nice to write first time, make not first time, but to write history, it will probably be difficult for... to be that. it's quite rare that you win 7-0. pep guardiola seems to think so — that's what he said about his team as they beat napoli 2—1 at the etihad stadium. raheem sterling set them on their way afterjust nine minutes with gabrieljesus scoring the second. napoli scored and missed a penalty but city require just a point to go through to the knock—out stages. today we won against an incredible team. to do that, you have to make an incredible performance. that team ta ke an incredible performance. that team take out energy because they have the quality to take the ball as much as possible and my team is a team with a lot of quality. three more british teams are involved tonight. the premier league champions chelsea take on roma at stamford bridge. manchester united face benfica in portugal and celtic are away at bayern munich. football association bosses are set to face a parliamentary inquiry over the investigations into former england women's manager mark sampson's alleged racism and bullying of the chelsea ladies striker eni aluko. sampson denies the allegations and was cleared by two inquiries. at today's hearing, the fa is expected to reveal the findings of a reopened investigation into the claims. leicester city are looking for a new manager after sacking craig shakespeare just four months after appointing him on a permanent basis. leicester are currently in the relegation zone and without a win in six league matches. super league's magic weekend will return to newcastle united's st james' park for a fourth successive year in 2018. champions leeds and castleford will repeat their grand final meeting at the event. and that's all the sport for now. victoria, i will be back with more later on. it's 10 .09am. this morning we've been telling you about an alternative version of the family courts which aims to help people with addictions keep their children rather than have them taken into care. it does so by helping parents stabilise or stop using drugs and alcohol so that the children can either remain or return to the care of their parents. it's been called "strikingly successful" and this morning the government is announcing an extra £6.2 million of funding to fdac — the family drug and alcohol court. 0ur reporter catrin nye has had unique access to those who have used it. we bought you her full report earlier. here's a short extract. john's 49 and lives in paddington in london. i started using drugs kind of at the end of school. and then, a few years later, i started taking heroin. very, very quickly i knew i was in trouble. i knew i was kind of out of my depth a bit. i started getting dependent, physically dependent, on it. after more than two decades of heavy drug use, john found himself preparing for the birth of a son, archie, with another addict, who had already had several children put in care. not only was i using heroin, i was using crack, i was using prescription drugs, i was using alcohol. i was homeless. i was just kind of floating around. his mum had been on the heroin substitute methadone throughout the pregnancy, so there was a little bit of concern about archie's physical dependence on that, so he was monitored for ten days. then he was instantly placed into foster care. and that's when i knew that this is serious, this is really serious. john was assigned to a new type of family courts with the hope of helping him keep archie — the family drug and alcohol court, or fdac. judge nicholas crichton founded it in 2008 after witnessing years of children being taken into care. we bring the parent into court every two weeks. most of those hearings take place without their lawyers, so the parents begin to find their voice and they begin to become confident in a system that they really understand is trying to help them. in partnership with the fdac team, with the local authority's social work team, the parents and the judge, we seek to find solutions to the problems. you know, you need to address your drug problem. "we can help you do that." it was going into detox for a short time, for12 days, then it was going into a day programme. and it was consistent and you kind of always knew what was happening. between one in four and one in three of women who has a child removed by the court today will be back and have another child removed in the next two or three years, usually for the same reason. human expense in terms of suffering and just expense and drain on society. the family drug nd alcohol courts are now getting £6.2 million of government money. it's used in an unusual way, though. private investors pay the upfront costs and if the process works, they make a profit. they get paid back by the local authority and the government. if it fails, they don't get that money back. archie is now eight and lives full—time with his dad. i work, i pay my bills, do lots of fun stuff. the way i live my life today is totally different from how i was nearly eight years ago. if you've had experience of these courts, let me know. tracey crouch the conservative minister for civil society told catrin about the importance of the court. i think this is an enormous opportunity to partner with local authorities and other organisations to really drive some proper investment into the family drug and alcohol court. it is clearly an opportunity for us to engage with some proper issues right at the grassroots level. how many more people can take advantage of the family drug and alcohol courts because of this money? we estimate that 2,400 people, around about 800 families, will benefit from this investment. i think this is a real opportunity to tackle some of the issues in drug and alcohol dependency right at the heart of those problems. and by working in partnership with fdac, with local authorities, using the investment from government, this is really going to help that. the way that this money is being given by government means that private investors have to give the money upfront and then they're paid back by the government. why notjust put the money in where it's needed straightaway? one of the things that government is keen on is making sure we look at all forms of investment into the sector, into charities, into the voluntary sector, into opportunities like this with alcohol and drug dependency. we want to make sure we get value for money from the public money that is going into it, and also the private investment, and ensure there is a proper outcomes—based approach to this. that in turn creates much more opportunity, because people know that they're investing in the right things at the right time and that there will be a decent outcome as a consequence. this method of funding is obviously more complex. it makes it more difficult for those receiving the money. why do you think this is a better way of funding? i think there's more ownership as a consequence of investing like this and people who used social impact bonds in the past have seen a real proper outcome from it. so we have seen, for example, working with offenders in peterborough, that we've seen a huge increase in the number of people that are not reoffending. so we are reducing rates of reoffending by having a proper outcomes—based programme. and that in turn encourages more people to invest in these sorts of schemes from a private perspective, but also gives government the opportunity to continue that investment, as well. let's talk to emma long, who has very recently been through the family drug and alcohol court system. she had been addicted to heroin and she lost two children because of it. also with us is steve bamborough. he's the fdac national unit rep. emma, how long were you on drugs?|j was 15. when i was 21, i moved on to heroin. so all together, it was a 15—year habit of heroin, but drugs all together its 22 years. 15—year habit of heroin, but drugs all together it's 22 years. wow. yes. two children, one ended up going to live with your mum? yes. and your little boy marley aged two was taken into ca re little boy marley aged two was taken into care because of your addiction? yes. what was that like? well, it was awful. i mean, whenjames went away, i mean what had been happening is, i'd been taking heroin and then i'd started to take crack as well and that's when i got really, really bad, you know. iwas and that's when i got really, really bad, you know. i was at a real low point where i was stealing, stealing from family, stealing from shops and getting into a lot of trouble. it got to the point where my mum kind of found out and she said that enough‘s enough and so she took james, that's my oldest son. i seemed to, after that, went to prison a few times and seemed to get worse and worse and worse and i was living on the streets. i was stealing, i was begging, living on the streets. i was stealing, iwas begging, i living on the streets. i was stealing, i was begging, i was really, really low. the last time i went to prison, that was when i kind of woke up and thought, i'm going to sort myself out and change. i stopped and i got my family back. i had my son back, even though he wasn't living with me he was back in my life. that didn't last very long. then i started using heroin again. i was using but i kept it together and kept it secret. then obviously, one day i started taking crack again. social services were involved. they'd given me so many chances. i just seemed to be getting away with it. then the time came when it was like, you know, that's it. yes. so i had to go through care proceedings andi had to go through care proceedings and i was offered the chance to do fdac. i didn't know much about it but from what i heard, i thought, you know, this could be good. so i thought yes, i'll give it a go and i did it, yes and then i got marley back. which is amazing? yes. so you lost him for a year, or about a year? it's meant to be like a six—month programme on fdac but obviously you can get... erm you can get extensions so i had an extension and then certain things got delayed so it ended up going on for eight—and—a—half months and he was in care. steve, how important is f-dac? i think it's incredibly important. we can't keep doing familyjustice the important. we can't keep doing family justice the way important. we can't keep doing familyjustice the way we are doing it at the minute. it needs a different solution and i think fdac is that solution. it's a problem—solving court. so it's based on therapeutic principles with the specialistjudge and on therapeutic principles with the specialist judge and the specialist team. but we treat parents with dignity and respect. and for those taxpayers who're watching this thinking this is so expensive to do it this way, what would you say to them particularly about the money aspect of it? it's a fair question but we actually save the taxpayer money. by doing it this way? yes. because taking a child into care ultimately ends up costing a lot more? foster caring for a year can cost £25,000. residential care can be £100,000 a year. we save the taxpayer money, every pound spent on fdac there's £2.30 taxpayer money, every pound spent on fdac there's £2. 30 saved to the taxpayer. wow. so having your children back in your life, amazing. yes. i mean, in terms of drugs, that's it? yes. it's coming up for a year now since i eyed and i'm feeling really good. my whole life is different now. 15 years, that had become my way of life and i didn't know anything else other than drugs. but now i'm out of that, i've got a great life, i really enjoy living a normal life. normal's good. yes. really good. yes. it's so nice to be able to report a good news story. thank you. thank you. still to come: seven months after this programme revealed the devastating impact mesh surgery can have on women, the issue is being debated in parliament today. we'll bring you some of what is being said. frank bruno is one of the most famous british boxers of all time and he's with us this morning to talk to you about his career and the work he's doing in mental health following his own diagnosis of bipolar. # harder. # better. # faster. # stronger... commentator: he's got it. first knock—down. and bruno is the hero of the night. # ever. # after. # work is. # 0ver. # work it. # make it. # do it. # makes us... what about the future now? what are you going to do? i couldn't really tell you what i'm going to do. i'm going to be happy and get a suntan here and there. use my black & decker now and again and just chill out a little bit more, you know. spend some more time with the family. frank bruno recently gained his boxing trainer's licence, he's set up the frank bruno foundation to help other boxers going through similar experiences to his own and he's written a new autobiography about his life to date — it's called being frank and is out this week. frank's here — if you've got a question for him — do get in touch. your book is actually called let me be frank. how are you? very, very well. i'm breathing, so as long as you're breathing it's a bonus and you're breathing it's a bonus and you can go forward. why is it important for you to talk publicly again about some of the searing mental health experiences that you've had over the past few yea rs ? that you've had over the past few years? i think it's very, very important for me. i've been through the lion's den, may i say, i've been section and been through the door and seen how a lot of people have been treated, a lot of people are too scared to speak up against medication and things like that. i think once i was there, i said once i get out i'll be sticking up for a lot of people. medication may work for some, not others. lot of people. medication may work forsome, not others. i've lot of people. medication may work for some, not others. i've seen the side effects and the certain different moods that people might be having from taking the medications, talking to themselves and talking to the wall, very, very dreadful. there is another way in which i'm sure can be noncontact, for people to get to the core of their problem rather than just the core of their problem rather thanjust going the core of their problem rather than just going to the doctors, being sectioned and being ruined by ta blets. i'll talk about, if it's all right with you, the being sectioned. it happened to you in 2003 twice within six months in 2012 and it's described in such detail in the book. yes. it was a really traumatic experience? yes. tell our add jens about it? it's very difficult. i could see two doctors looking at me going to the toilet. i could see certain social workers, people close to me saying the social workers shout at him, put his phones away, certain different things that have gone on, different medications i've taken which has gave me six stitches in my eye. another time i've taken and fallen on the ground and damaged my ribs, so i don't think that medication can be good for you. what is good for me might not be good for you so i can't tell anybody... sure, no, absolutely everybody is an individual. yes. i don't think the second time i shouldn't be sectioned. i wasn't a threat to nobody. was it meant in your case, was it an ambulance or police car? you are taken away against your will? it's not one police car turned up, it meant three police cars, seven police, the ambulance, people coming to your house to sort of like give you a test to see if you're all right. i was all right in front of the lisman and answering the questions in the rite sort of way, then all of a sudden they got the power to just take you to these so—called hospitals what they take you to. at the end of the day, i done everything that i had to do. —— in front of the policeman and answering the question in the right way. would you say you didn't need to be sectioned? the first time, yes. the second time i had a tribunal and i got out of it twice within 12 days. the last one, i was very upset because people said to me, the judges want you at the tribunal. they said he's not a threat to you or anybody, let him out and he can get medical help at home. in the first time you were sectioned, you realised that someone close to you was effectively taking money from your bank account, up to £300,000. yes. you don't name them in the book. yes. you didn't go to the police. right. how do you reflect on that personal betrayal? it's part of life. them things do happen. it's not part of life, someone nicking £300,000 from you.|j not part of life, someone nicking £300,000 from you. i understand that, but it's part of life. you've just got to accept it. it was me for not being on my toes, i let my guard down and trusted the person for doing that to me. i gutted me, it's like someone stabbing you doing that. but it's life, it's only money at the end of the day, you know. you've got to rock'n'roll. i'm getting it back, its in legal hands at the moment but i've got half of it back. it's a very powerful thing when you trust people, you know, and they betray you like that. it's very, very cutting. but you've got to rock'n'roll with the punches, them things do happen. it's only money at the end of the day. an e—mailfrom kate, money at the end of the day. an e—mail from kate, tell mr money at the end of the day. an e—mailfrom kate, tell mr bruno how much people admire him. cheers. it ta kes a much people admire him. cheers. it takes a certain something to be able to share your difficulties and to do it publicly and to use it to help others is inspiring. thank you very much, very kind of her, thank you very much, kate. some more. you can get in touch. kierin says congratulations for getting your pro—trainers licence. congratulations for getting your pro-trainers licence. thank you. simon says thank you frank, it takes so much to speak out about mental health and your stature will inspire others, as me. fayed says, so good to see you looking well. and boyly says on twitter, talking openly about men's mental health, i have nothing but respect for this man, a figure of courage and of hope. it's nice that men speak out. a woman, a lady, if they've got a problem, they can come in, go in the corner and cry for half an hour, come back and everything's all done. ladies chat. they go in the gym, they chat their problems out, men don't do that, men hold it in. the testosterone, they're too big to really tell their problems but now it's nice just to get things off the chest and chat and bounce things off one another. everyone's got some forms of problems. yes. some drama going on. sometimes when you talk, it gives you a little bit of confidence to get on with your day. i'm sure sometimes when you come in like you look very well today, you look bright, it's nice if someone makes you that compliment, it gives you a little lift. sometimes people give you that lift. it's not harmful to say someone looks nice and healthy today, like you have a spring in your step. but not every day you have that, some days you are down, you have a problem with your kids or a bill through the post or whatever and christmas is coming, you want to get that one present, everything is in your brain, so some days you can clear your brain in your brain, so some days you can clearyour brain and in your brain, so some days you can clear your brain and put that to the side, go out to a party or a dinner or to side, go out to a party or a dinner ortoa side, go out to a party or a dinner or to a restaurant and forget about your problems so it doesn't really go in, the problems are there. what would you say to men who do find it difficult to express themselves, difficult to express themselves, difficult to express themselves, difficult to talk, difficult to cry? sometimes you have got to let yourself go a little bit and it's only human to cry sometimes. it's only human to cry sometimes. it's only human to have a problem. it's only human to have a problem. it's only human to have a problem. it's only human to have the hump. not all of the time, you have a smile, you can be jolly and of the time, you have a smile, you can bejolly and bring love—in to the air sometimes. sometimes people say men are grumpy and don't smile, they are always miserable but sometimes have a laugh and chill out and if you have got something on your plate, talk to another person, don'tjudge a book by its cover, just because someone's got a problem with his wife or his partner or whatever, don'tjudge them and put them down, give them a little pat on them down, give them a little pat on the back and say, listen we all go through different bits and pieces. sometimes men go in and say she's moaning again, you know, men don't understand that. she might be moaning, she might be at the fire cooking the dinner. juggling 76 things. exactly, so you have got to have sympathy, you know what i mean, we all have different problems though that we talk about with one another. a few years ago, you felt yourself starting to become unwell again and what was different this time is that you voluntarily went to a hospital and said, "i'm frank, help me." my friend has got a boy called daniel andi friend has got a boy called daniel and i never seen him. friend has got a boy called daniel and i neverseen him. he friend has got a boy called daniel and i never seen him. he has been a good friend from the north—east and he said do i want to run the great north run. to do the great north run you have to train for eight months toa you have to train for eight months to a year. i had a month to three weeks to train for the great north run. i almost killed myself in the gym and i went into a place to rest andi gym and i went into a place to rest and i got some massages and got in the steam room and got away from it, but i was burnt out and exhausted myself and i brought myself in. but i was burnt out and exhausted myself and i brought myself inm isa similar myself and i brought myself inm is a similar build—up to the times you were sectioned. you were training and wanted to keep fit. you we re training and wanted to keep fit. you were doing sometimes 4,000 press—ups a day? when i was sectioned i was doing 4,000 press—ups a day. a day? when i was sectioned i was doing 4,000 press—ups a daym a day? when i was sectioned i was doing 4,000 press-ups a day. it was a similar build up. in the end you we re a similar build up. in the end you were burnt out? no, i wasn't burnt out. they were giving me medication to bring me down, but i wouldn't accept the way that the side—effects we re accept the way that the side—effects were going against me so ijust did press—ups to motivate myself and to keep myself strong mentally. 0utside i was not seeking the help, i got myself a pa now, dave davis, the agent, has took a little bit of responsibility and i have allowed people to drive me to jobs and to cook me a little bit of food or to get my clothes ready and different things, but i was driving, cooking, going to the market, going to morrisons and trying to get food and everything was on top of me, but i have structured my life out more clearer because if someone nicked that money, if a friend nicked a cartier watch worth £38,000, it makes you distrust people. i'm still wary, but i have got to try and do people a favour and people do these wicked things to you, but i have only got myself to blame. i'm trying to trust the human race a little bit better. you are medication-free? yes, 18 months. how have you managed that and how do you manage your bipolar condition? i try and go to the gym most days and try to watch what i eat and do yoga and meditation. not every day you can feel springy or lively, but i'm blessed in the way that i have retired from boxing 22 years. i go up retired from boxing 22 years. i go up and down the country and make speeches and do question and a nswe rs. speeches and do question and answers. some people say i have inspired people, but people inspire me as well because everybody has got a different problem. everybody has got a problem in their life. i have done a little bit of counselling with the gateway school with kids going through bits and pieces and i'm getting myself a licence and i'm trying to spread a little bit of love and understanding and train and you know what i mean, just put a little bit of structure in people's lives as well as my life. do you think retiring at the age you retired which was two years before your bipolar diagnosis contributed in some way to the diagnosis?” don't know. sometimes in life i had a structure through boxing. when i came out of boxing, i did pantomime for eight years and i couldn't take the responsibility of the buzz and the responsibility of the buzz and the excitement of being super fit. i don't know if retiring at 35 is a very early age to retire and sit down. it is like lewis hamilton's motorcar, if you put that in the garage it will seize up and i fet as ifi garage it will seize up and i fet as if i did seize up. you garage it will seize up and i fet as ifi did seize up. you referenced ricky hatton and tyson fury, do you worry for boxers when they stop boxing? i worry for all sports people. everybody, when they are stopping whatever they are doing in work, that's why you see the older school take up gardening, they have got to do something to occupy themselves. i stopped for a little bit, but i haven't got no one to blame ismt‘ not feeling sorry for myself. we go through these different things. it's how you come out, some people don't come out of the stigma and the rut that they are in and they are there and they can't motivate themselves to get out of it, but there is light at the end of the tunnel if you dig in there, hold and fightand the tunnel if you dig in there, hold and fight and be positive. you talk about the racist abuse that your mum has experienced over her life and how she dealt with that. tell our audience about that? it's not nice, you know, what i mean, to read stories and people threatening your mum, you know what i mean? my mum, god rest her soul died a year ago, but it's not nice to get cowards, sending things to your mum threatening her with different things. it's not nice. i'm not looking for sympathy or race the race ca rd looking for sympathy or race the race card here, it's not nice. if someone did that to your mum, you wouldn't love it. there is nutters out there. do you think things have got better in this country? ah, boy, you know what i mean? it's a very, very powerful, very, very horrible thing to talk about, but some ways, for some people, it's not got better at all. it's got even worse, you know what i mean? it's a terrible thing, but... what about yourself? you talked about what your mum had experienced. what have yourself, have you experienced racism? yes, you experience racism here and there, but i just you experience racism here and there, but ijust turn a blind eye and do what i have got to do, as long as they don't hurt me, sticks and stones will break your bones, but names, i have been treated nice by both all different races, but there is all ways of racism. if it weren't colour, it would be religion. if it weren't religion, it would be what country you're from, if it is not what country you're from, it's what town you're from, what football team you support, so, you know what i mean, human zmrps you know what i mean, human zmrps you are telling me you have experienced racist abuse? yeah, i have experienced racial abuse, yeah, i have, yeah, yeah, yeah, i have, yeah. can you give me examples? i don't particularly want to get into it because i don't want to stir up things and get people in, but sometimes you get a lot of ignorant people that would drive past you and call you all sorts of different names, but at the end of the day, if they weren't calling me names, they would be calling other people names, you know what i mean? you get a lot of cowards that will do things. and do you respond? 0r of cowards that will do things. and do you respond? or do you stay quiet? how can i respond? ifi go to you, "he has got mental health or he is not right. i'm under pressure at all times. i bought myself a car, not too long ago, i accidentally didn't put the brake on. and the car rolled, thank god no one got hurt, oh he is mad. if i play music or if i walk funny, if i have got a corn on my foot and i walk funny, i'm under pressure, people think he is going cuckoo. if the police stop at my door, they will say he is this or that. at the end of the day, there is good things about being a so—called celebrity, but there is bad things that people monitor you all the time and looking to make up the propaganda about you. i have got some nice people around me and i'm conscious of certain different things. i make sure i go to the gym and go to the health farm and look after myself and monitor myself and mind my own business. that's such an insight into the way you feel you have to control your life because thatis, have to control your life because that is, potentially, anybody at nount could say, well, it's because of his mental health issues and i wonder, sorry to interrupt frank, i wonder, sorry to interrupt frank, i wonder why you say in the book, which for what it's worth is really sad, you say you are happiest when you are alone? inchts happy when i am alone. i'm in my own bubble and minding my own business. ifeel like a prisoner in my house when i tell people sometimes i am a prisoner because when you go out, you're monitored and you're watched what you do, if i am at the traffic lights and i accidentally go over, people... i get it. people lights and i accidentally go over, people... iget it. people put lights and i accidentally go over, people... i get it. people put on facebook and questioned you and whatever. i'm not moaning. you can't have the best of both worlds.” whatever. i'm not moaning. you can't have the best of both worlds. i need to ask you about anthonyjoshua. daniel, "hi frank, iam a to ask you about anthonyjoshua. daniel, "hi frank, i am a student psychiatric nurse and hearing you speak so openly about your experiences is inspiring. your story helped solidify the feelings. " philippa says, "i have a lot of respect for you." nick says, "does knowing that the nation care help at all? ?" it is nice doing the facebook and reading the different comments and whatever. you do get somejealous and comments and whatever. you do get some jealous and some people saying crazy things, but most of the time they are nice and warm things. it's very nice. i mustn't really grumble. asi very nice. i mustn't really grumble. as i said, you look nice today, you look bright and it's nice to go away with that. it makes you feel good. wicked. wicked. there is so many of these. you know, which is really lovely. so thank you to our audience. right, anthonyjoshua, what do you think of him as a boxer? what do you think of him as a character? he is a good character and a he is character? he is a good character anda he isa character? he is a good character and a he is a good boxer and he is a prime example if someone wants it ta ke after prime example if someone wants it take after him. he trains, very, very hard. he is on his game and he is on his business. he only had 20 fights and he has done very well for himself and i wish him all the best. your trainer's licence... yes. you have got it. are you working with any boxers? there is one in the milton keynes boxing club. his dad asked me to help and watch his son box ofment boxers you talk to, you try and give tips here and there, i'm trying to get with the frank bruno foundation with units up and down the country, i'm looking for units and boxing clubs to get together to have my own stable and certain different people, i'm going to train, not only boxers, but you could be a dust man, a policeman, you could be a road sweeper, you could be a tramp on the street, you know what i mean, come out and train and give them confidence and tips. so i'm not looking — if things go quiet, i could have a unit i can go because i would like to go back down the gateway and take the counselling up the gateway and take the counselling upa the gateway and take the counselling up a level, talk to people and see if you can pass them a tip for today and give them a little boost, not going to be as i said, dundee training, but little tips that i learnt through life. so we have had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of m essa g es hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of messages for you. i'm going to read a couple which sum up the love for you. oh my god, you make me blush! seriously! marcus says, "wow, frank bruno really showing how it's done. not blaming anybody. really reasoned, really measured. we need more people like him." natalie says, "please let frank bruno know how much he is loved by the black community. he opened up the debate and stigma associated with mental health in our community." tarb says, "frank bruno, what a courageous, wonderful man." thank you. and what a legend. thank you so much. so nice to meet you. nice to meet you. respect to you, honestly. can i take that book? because you have got one there. you take that, yeah. absolutely. nice one. stay there for one sec. sorry. some breaking news, the northern ireland secretary, james broke shire says progress on the political crisis at stormont has stalled. let's get more on this from our correspondent chris page. hi, chris, fill us in? if you wondered what it would be like to have no government, the people in northern ireland have goodidea the people in northern ireland have good idea because they have been without devolved government for nine months since the government collapsed. there have been several rounds of negotiations. civil serva nts rounds of negotiations. civil servants have been running northern ireland, but because they are civil serva nts ireland, but because they are civil servants they aren't able to make any major decisions. so today, the northern ireland secretary, james brokenshire has been giving evidence before the northern ireland affairs committee at westminster and he has given a downbeat assessment of where things are at in the talks to restore power sharing. he says progress has stalled and he is talking about greater government intervention, greater westminster government intervention in running northern ireland. the government has made it clear that's not what they want. they do want local politicians to be making the decisions here. they really want devolution back up and running, but at the moment it feels like a deal is far off and that would mean that gradually westminster ministers in london have to ta ke westminster ministers in london have to take over the if you canses that stormont would be carrying out and mr brokenshire's comments chime with comments made by the irish prime minister yesterday when he said he felt a deal between the dup and sinn fein were not close. so, a new deadline of sorts, i suppose is the week after next because the parties have to reach an agreement around that time in order to be in a position to pass a budgets for northern ireland because at the moment northern ireland for this financial year which began in april doesn't have a budget. the prospects for a deal seem to be very poor though. chris, thank you. it's been called barbaric — debilitating — a scandal. now six months after this programme brought to light problems surrounding vaginal mesh implants — this morning mps have been debating the issue in parliament. mesh surgery is a medical procedure used to treat incontinence and prolapsed, but a growing number of women have reported complications since having the procedure. on this programme we've heard of stories of women needing wheelchairs, being unable to work or to have sex. many say it has ruined their lives. earlier i spoke to an mp and asked her whether women campaigning to get mesh banned are likely to see results. well, i hope they will, and that's what i'm going to be pushing for in the debate today, because the mesh should be banned while an audit is carried out. we're talking about between 10% and 15% of women who've had this mesh fitted being in extreme discomfort and pain. and that level of risk is simply not acceptable, so unless it can be proved safe, then i agree they should be banned. and what are you doing to get them banned? that's what i'm going to be arguing for in the debate today when i talk to the minister. i'm going to be pushing for an audit, i'm going to be pushing for all use of them to be suspended, and a full public inquiry into this. i mean, this is an absolutely massive scandal. and while yes, i accept the majority of people that have happened fitted are ok, it is not acceptable to have so many women, and men, suffering such debilitating effects of having this mesh implanted. we first shone a light on this scandal, we brought it to the great british public‘s attention back in april, which is when some politicians realised there might be a problem. how long might it take, do you think, to get mesh banned? well, that is going to be a decision made by the government, but it is one we are certainly going to push them on, and sling the mesh campaign. and, interestingly, a constituent who came to me to tell me about it had actually seen it from watching your programme and she said that she sat watching your programme and realised that all these symptoms were exactly the symptoms she had been feeling. and what i do hope that today does, as well, is notjust put pressure on the government to ban them, but also raise awareness so that so many other women who are watching the television today might recognise that the symptoms they have are the result of having that mesh. that debate is happening right now. emma hardy began with an open statement. let's listen in. the evidence is not out there to support such a move. i would disagree with the mesh injured women who've rightly proclaimed that we are the evidence. women like lorna farrell who suffered devastating injuries, women like lesley, a mum of two who wasn't even 30, now spends a huge amount of time in a wheelchair. she's explained frequently to her little girls why mummy keeps falling over. they were told the 20—minute surgery would change her life. they weren't wrong. some have lost theirjobs, dignity, husbands and partners. they have to use working aidesjust husbands and partners. they have to use working aides just to get by. the regulators, the clinical guidelines say the risk was around 1-3%. the guidelines say the risk was around 1—3%. the reality behind the guidelines are, a significant minority, not the majority, but a significant minority of women in whom these devices have resulted in chronic life—changing adverse events. let's speak now to kate langley, one of the first women we spoke to earlier this year when this programme exposed the issues caused by vaginal mesh implants. and from cardiff we have carolyn matthews. her mesh was removed last year, but she says it has ruined her life. remind our viewers what your life has been like? agony is the main word i would use very soon afterwards. i collapsed in what i can describe as absolute agony similarto can describe as absolute agony similar to childbirth contraction—like pain. and then that continued and it's contraction—like pain. and then that continued and its continued for the last five years. falling on the floor, collapsing, you think you're going to have a baby but obviously you are not. i discovered it was my mesh that was doing this. it had cut through my vagina, it eroded into my bladder, eroded through the urethera which i had reconstructed. it also went into my nerve. i'm now left with chronic pain which i have to ta ke with chronic pain which i have to take a whole cocktail of drugs and medication to try and control that pain for. medication to try and control that painfor. i'm medication to try and control that pain for. i'm left with three removal surgery scars. there's still some mesh left? yes and it's deep under the pelvic arch in a place that they are not comfortable, or they are worried to operate on, but because mine became stiff and rigid, the fear is that there are main arteries and vessels in the place that it arteries and vessels in the place thatitis arteries and vessels in the place that it is and it's trying to access that it is and it's trying to access that now safely so i'm being sent by my specialist to see a vascular surgeon and trauma surgeon to see if they can get that piece out. goodness. carolyn, briefly, how has mesh affected your life? it's ruined my life. it's caused terrible problems. it eroded and i'd been told for many years that there was nothing they could do and it was basically in my mind. it's ruined my family life. kate, the debate is happening in the commons finally. would you like to see it banned? oh, yes, 100%, that's what we are really hoping for today, to see a suspension on the use of the mesh to get the national register in place, to recall all the women that have had this operation done because some women may not realise that the problems they are experiencing are actually related to the mesh implant. so if we could get it banned, that would be absolutely fantastic and the national public inquiry would be fantastic as well. 0k, thank you very much, kate, thanks for coming on the programme, and thank you very much carolyn matthews. football association bosses will appear in front of a parliamentary inquiry over the investigations into former england women's boss mark sampson's alleged racism and bullying of eniola aluko. the chelsea ladies striker — and her ex—england team—mate lianne sanderson — will also give evidence to a group of mps investigating. mark sampson, who denies the allegations and was cleared of discrimination by two inquiries, was sacked last month for "inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour" in a previousjob. this is one of the allegations of bullying and racism made against former england women's head coach mark sampson. he asked me, "who's coming to watch the game for you?" i said, "oh, i've got family coming in from nigeria, actually, i've got family flying in." and he said, "make sure they don't come over with ebola." when that was said, did you challenge him at the time? did you say that's unacceptable? no. i laughed. i laughed, because, i mean, i was in shock. i didn't know... you know, i didn't know what to say. you believe it was a racist comment? yes. i believe it was. i respect the people who had made allegations and i respect that since they've been made i've gone through a thorough process. i've answered every question that has been asked of me. are you a racist? absolutely not. sampson's also alleged to have asked mixed—race england midfielder drew spence whether she'd been arrested, during a tournament in 2015 — a claim which he denies. two investigations have cleared sampson of any wrongdoing, but questions have been asked about how they were. drew spence wasn't interviewed during either process. sampson, however, does have the support of england captain steph houghton. we want to be behind mark. every time i've stepped foot in this environment since mark's been in charge, i've really enjoyed every moment. i feel as though this environment, as a team, has allowed us to be open and has allowed us to be individuals and really be ourselves. he's not the only one to face scrutiny. the guardian reported that when fa chairman greg clark was sent a document by the pfa saying its internal enquiry into sampson was not a genuine search for the truth, clark replied, "i've no idea why you're sending me this." last month, mark sampson was sacked as england head coach following evidence from the 2014 investigation of inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour with female players while he was bristol academy manager. the full details have never been revealed. the fa said the investigation's full report was only brought to its attention the week before his sacking. 0n reading that report i felt that what i saw was incompatible with the standards that we'd expect from someone to work in the fa. senior fa executives are now due to be grilled by mps over their investigations into sampson's alleged bullying of eni aluko. let's talk now to rachel brown—finnis, let's ta ke let's take to janie frampton. what do you think about this? it's going to put girls off coming into football. do you think that is right paul mortimer? if you look at it from a players‘ point of view. would a player in that environment whistleblow, speak out about something when they look? what do you think? well, as a player, an ex—player, i would you think? well, as a player, an ex—player, iwould be you think? well, as a player, an ex—player, i would be frightened to speak out simply because of how it‘s been dealt with. the process needs to be looked at. the processes of how the information has been gathered. the numerous investigations. more than one kind of alludes to the fact that they may not be unhappy with what they have had before. i look at it from a player‘s point of view. the process protects everyone. in this case, we are looking at, probably it hasn‘t. it's are looking at, probably it hasn‘t. it‘s supposed to, yes. janie what questions do you need answering, and we don‘t have much time i‘m sorry? from a woman in football perspective, our message has been clear from the perspective, our message has been clearfrom the beginning — it‘s like paul said, making sure the process is in place and it‘s adhered to for each and every case, not picking which case they want to adhere that process to. ok. are you surprised about what‘s happened, the way the fa have dealt with things? i've got to say if i had it all to do again, they‘d do it differently. i would admit that there are positives around the fa, they do promote diverse inequality, but in this case, there are serious questions to answer. thank you both very much. i appreciate your time, i know it was short but we do appreciate it, thank you. on the programme tomorrow, the former boss of kids company tells us that she has nothing to be sorry for over the collapse of her charity. thank you for your company today. back tomorrow at 9. good morning. there is not going to bea good morning. there is not going to be a great deal of change in the weather you are experiencing outside at the moment. it‘s fairly quiet, probably the quietest day of the week weather—wise. lots of cloud in england and wales. sunshine across the far north of england though and across scotland and northern ireland also. here you will continue to have brighter skies. across the far north of england, perhaps becoming a bit cloudier. elsewhere, the cloud will remain and the rain will continue on and off. through the evening and tonight, it will remain cloudy with mist and murk developing across england and wales. rain spreads into scotland and northern ireland. during thursday, quite heavy rain. the rain will be heavy with a strengthening wind, that will push its way east ward as we go through friday. it stays unsettled into the weekend. bye. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11am. hospitals across the uk are missing targets for cancer care, a&e, and planned operations, new bbc analysis finds. the bbc has launched today its nhs tracker showing how your local hospital trust is doing and you can see it online. the government says it‘s scrapping charges to call the universal credit benefits helpline, as labour presses for the whole scheme to be put on hold. game of thrones actress lena headey becomes the latest hollywood star to accuse producer harvey weinstein of sexual harassment. uk unemployment falls to a 12—year low, but wages are still falling behind inflation. also coming up — the communist party congress assembles in beijing.

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