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i opened my door and ten feet away was a wall of flame. a warning the health system is ‘straining at the seams‘ because of staff shortages, rising demand and the number of patients with preventable illnesses. also: information at the tip of yourfingers. the new fingerprint technique that can tell what you've touched, eaten or had to drink — could soon be used as evidence in court. and the rspca expresses concern over exotic animals becoming the entertainment at children's parties. new regulations to ensure they are not being mistreated. good morning. it's tuesday, 10th october, welcome to bbc newsroom live. in the last hour, the defence contractor, bae systems, has announced it's planning to cut almost two thousand jobs. the majority of roles will go at the firm's two sites in lancashire. unions are demanding urgent talks with the defence company. the firm says the redundancies are part of a move to streamline the business and have what it says is a "sharper competitive edge". 0ur correspondent, dan johnson is outside a bae plant in preston. —— we can cross to our westminster studio and speak to our assistant political editor norman smith. it isa it is a very significant announcement not just for employees at plants in lancashire and yorkshire but portsmouth and norfolk. it matters politically as well. these are jobs which politicians of all parties believe the british economy will depend on in future, high—tech jobs. the british economy will depend on in future, high—techjobs. and that will be inevitable questions as to weather this is linked to brexit uncertainty and how far it is tied to what seems to be a slowdown in economic growth and weather the squeeze on the defence budget is also a factor. bae seemed to be saying it is simply get this note changes —— organisational changes are not linked to brexit. but this is after we had that very worrying news from bombardier about tariffs at about 300% coming from the united states. there will be a statement in the commons this afternoon from the business secretary. there has been a lot of strong talk about bombardier and michael fallon has talked about regards reaction against boeing if it wants to secure future defence contracts in the uk. there are issues here in terms of notjust industrial prospects but britain. are you satisfied this is purely a commercial decision by bae and not linked to brexit? the worrying thing is that families do not know what will happen but it has very deep implications for the whole of our defence industry and the future of that industry. i really don't feel the government has got a proper defence industrial strategy as a stop start approach. it is really important we get ahead of the game and have the technological advantage. that is important for our security as well as the future of out security as well as the future of our industry. when she'll lose these skilled workers it is impossible to restart and get back to that level again. looking at the statement from bae the argue this is a commercial decision and they simply do not have orders particularly for eurofighter beyond 2019. therefore they have two skilled owner of the workforce. the important thing is the government can influence events. they can bring forward their orders for the hocks forward their orders for the hocks for the red arrows. they do so much to promote the british defence industry. it is important it doesn't just leave it to the industry. this is an industry that matters for the security of this country. bringing forward that order for the red arrows, how much business with that create for bae ? arrows, how much business with that create for bae? it creates a significant amount of business in the north of the aircraft are made and that of the type of thing the government needs to look at. in the labour party we are putting together a task force to study what else could be done because we really do firmly believe particularly with defence government defence orders the way they organise themselves and bring things forward can make a real difference to these companies. we know the ministry of defence is looking at significant savings because of what is purported to be up because of what is purported to be up ten to £20 billion black hole. therefore bae have concluded that would not be the same demand was in the past. the government do need to get a the past. the government do need to geta grip the past. the government do need to get a grip on how the how the balance defence spending and the need to look carefully at what they're doing about off—the—shelf purchases. when you go buying off—the—shelf from all and sundry the world not only are you undermining workers fear that you are undermining the future of our defence industry and undermining the plans that bae may have for the future and the research and development we need to get ahead in the game and get ahead of the game. 0n the subject of bombardier that has been talk of retaliatory action against boeing. is that the right path? we need to secure jobs in northern ireland but it is clear as we leave the european union we understand how world trade organisation rules work and it is important we get into dialogue with the united states because i do not think this will be the only time the united states will turn round to us. we have a huge export market with united states and at the get into some sort of trade war palace will go some sort of trade war palace will 9° up some sort of trade war palace will go up on all sorts of products. it is important the government steps up to the mark and get a grip and gets talking about what can be done and makes it absolutely clear we will not see a democracy are disadvantaged because of tariffs slapped on by the united states. very worrying and alarming news for employees affected in bae and bombardier and these are sessions with proponent implications —— these with proponent implications —— these with profound applications for business. theresa may will today challenge public bodies to "explain or change" sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups in areas such as education, housing and criminal justice. she is launching the results of the government's racial disparities audit. findings include that the unemployment rate for black, asian and minority ethnic people is nearly double that of white british adults and white british pupils on free school meals performed the worst in the second stage of primary school key stage 2, with less than a third reaching the expected level. the findings also show that those more likely to own their own home are indian, pakistani and white people compared with black people and those from bangladesh. it was to reza semi ‘s when she became prime minister to make a fairer britain for everyone. —— theresa may. this woman won a tribunal and believes we are far from an integrated society. although i was the most qualified i have to work ten times harder than my colleagues. i was still looked over bya colleagues. i was still looked over by a white male who was eventually put into the position. today the government will introduce extra in areas where there are greater inequalities. there should be a coherent strategy for government appoints one individual, i give the secretary of state to lead on the development and implementation and the delivery of a coherent race strategy. the government says it is highlighting earning injustices but the result of the burning question, can the government deliver. what this report allows us to do is focus on some of the causation is. in some cases it might be a rational explanation and another cases it will be cross government with every department focusing on it and making sure we tackle on it. for more on this let's cross over to westminster and talk to munira mirza who was the former deputy mayor of london under boris johnson. what this report allows us to do is focus on some what do you make of this audit?|j don't what do you make of this audit?” don't have a problem with publishing data. what i am concerned about is the government has framed these disparities about being about racial justice and discrimination and i think that is far too simplistic. it paints a very negative picture about how minorities are doing and how they are treated in the system. and they are treated in the system. and they have been very deliberate in their choice of language by assuming that disparities and about discrimination. they are essentially i think creating a very misleading picture. they are storing up trouble. i think they are encouraging a great deal of resentment against the system and corroding ethnics communities trust in public services and institutions. and i think that can lead to a worse outcomes for ethnic minorities. i do not think they doing it on purpose but i think they are unintentionally creating other problems. if these disparities are not about discrimination, what are they about? let me make it clear, i am not saying that is not racism and dissemination in society. i don't think anyone reasonable would argue that. but i would say is a large pa rt that. but i would say is a large part of these disparities in many cases is driven by other factors, for instance the geography. where people live. the fact that unemployment amongst certain bme amenities is very high in the northern mill towns with a has been the industrialisation. i wouldn't say that is because they are being committed against but it is a problem. it is also a problem faced by other ethnic groups. by focusing on this in terms of race and think it's glosses over things like class angiography and age and it creates a climate of mistrust between ethnic groups and the mental health service, then employers, the criminal justice system. service, then employers, the criminaljustice system. it can encourage ethnic minorities to think that the system is against them and then they disengage from those vital services that can give them support. but is this not what theresa may means when she says society has to explain or change the differences that are in the life outcomes of different british citizens? that is what she's saying. maybe it does need explaining as you have just done but that is an important to do. she has pre—empted the findings of the report which is not even published yet by saying it is about racial injustice. she has already created a framework by which to understand this. inevitably the media headlines as i saw this morning, the way it has been portrayed on television creates a sense that this is about people being treated unfairly. in fact she is even used the phrase unfair treatment. i think it is a much more complex picture. in our society racism and prejudice is declining. we have done phenomenally well in the last a0 years from the kind of bigotry that ethnic communities such as my parents would've experienced in this country when they first arrive things would have improved an enormous amount. the paradoxes we talk more about racism now. we must more willing to ascribe disparities and differences between groups as being about racial discrimination and think it is a very corrosive on society. i'm not saying we mustn't talk about racism and not in denial at excess and i'm certainly not blaming ethnic amenities for this. they are encouraged to interpret their experiences, their negative experiences, through the prism of race and not getting a job and not doing well in school and having different health outcomes. that is because the system is against them. but in fact it may be for a whole range of different reasons. very interesting to get your thoughts. thank you. the leader of catalonia's devolved government will address the regional parliament later today — and there is speculation that he could unilaterally declare independence from spain. carles puigdemont will address regional politicians and present the results of a disputed referendum his government held, even though the spanish central government declared it illegal. tom burridge reports from barcelona. let's cross over to our correspondent gavin lee, in barcelona. 0ur recourse to a declaration, a unilateral declaration of independence today?” unilateral declaration of independence today? i think the dynamic has changed and yesterday. some of the voices that behind the governing party of carles puigdemont seeing that will be a symbolic declaration. after that referendum we had, in which less than half the population voted but were told by the government than 90% of people, 2 million people voted yes for independence, there will come a point today at six o'clock where he may not did declare independence. however today pretty much all of the spanish press as saying he will declare unilateral independence. he was a man who for a lifetime his ambition has been unwavering in that he wanted independence. he has been president for three years and the former journalist but all president for three years and the formerjournalist but all his cabinet have been quiet for more than a8 hours. the foreign minister talked about how they will be a strong declaration today but i think pa rt strong declaration today but i think part of the issue is that loose lips sink ships. if madrid get sense of what is going on they can react very quickly. it is about more thinking time and it is everybody‘s guess. even party members say let's wait to hear what the president says. the cata la n hear what the president says. the catalan leaders are under pressure and we hear reports of businesses pulling out of catalonia. that brings its own pressure. it does and thatis brings its own pressure. it does and that is something that the overall party, the together for yes that is something that the overall party, the togetherfor yes party, there are two different parties coming together with the third supporting to have the majority. they are satirist parties but they have different thoughts about how it should work. all the parties combined for this are surprised the banks have left. three years ago the president who lost his job over a consultation on the same question, his promise was that the banks would never leave but the biggest bank and the other biggest bank have already announced they are leaving for valencia and alica nte announced they are leaving for valencia and alicante and i think thatis valencia and alicante and i think that is having an impact. we're hearing on the streets people saying should debuted putting the money elsewhere? some are saying he will hold firm at six o'clock this evening. —— should be put their money elsewhere? the headlines on bbc newsroom live. the defence company bae systems is planning to cut almost 2,000 jobs — many of them in lancashire. sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups in areas like education and housing are revealed by a government audit. at least 10 people have been killed in wildfires in the wine—making area of northern california. and in sport: wales have failed to qualify for next year's world cup in russia. last year's euro semi—finallists missed out on a play—off spot to the republic of ireland after losing to them i—0 in cardiff last night. wales have named their squad for the rugby league world cup in australia and papua new guinea later this month. super league young player of the year nominee st helens regan grace is in the 2a. and the barbarians say they want to take womens rugby union to ‘a different level‘ by forming their first women's team. players from each of the home nations as well as france and new zealand will play against munster in their first match next month i'll be back with more on those stories in 15 minutes. wildfires in the state of california have killed at least ten people, and forced around 20,000 from their homes. at least 1,500 properties have been destroyed as the flames have spread in hot weather, carried by strong winds. governor, jerry brown, has declared a state of emergency governorjerry brown, has declared a state of emergency in the wine counties of napa, sonoma and yuba. we can't fill inside right now because it is getting late and people are getting the headstone to sleep release try to sleep. many have been years since late sunday night when they were woken up in the middle of the night by furious knocking on the door telling them to leave immediately because those fla mes leave immediately because those fla m es we re leave immediately because those flames were fast approaching.” leave immediately because those flames were fast approaching. i open my front door to find out what was going on and about ten feet away was a wall of flame, right near my door. i grabbed my pants and my shirt and my keys and my wallet and i got the heck out of there. around 20,000 people in all had been taken to shelters like this one. someone had to come from specialist care centres. we have a special needs centres. we have a special needs centre set up in the back with skilled nursing staff and doctors on duty. how are people coping? like any disaster people are traumatised. more than 70 thousand areas have been hit and you can really sense the burning wood smell in the air. places like this are at an effective a temporary solution. many people simply don't know if they have a home to go back to. the brexit secretary, david davis, willjoin the fifth round of negotiations between the uk and the eu today — with both sides insisting that it's up to the other to make the next move. the talks got underway in brussels yesterday as theresa may told the commons the government was preparing for the possibility of no deal. 0ur reporter adam fleming is in brussels. it is obviously raining. yesterday a lot of talk about the ball being on the other person is caught. have you any idea would abolish the day?” suppose if we are carrying on the ball metaphor it is here at the british ambassador ‘s residence in brussels. the brexit secretary arrived a couple of hours ago. we weren't expecting them in brussels till thursday but he is here a couple of days earlier than we thought. he will have lunch with michel barnier. i'm not sure if there is any message to be read into there is any message to be read into the menu. the focus is on the three big brexit withdrawal issues, citizens rights, the rights for eu nationals living in the uk after brexit and how they are reciprocated for british people living in the continent after march of 2019. that is cautious optimism of progress on that issue, not necessarily enough for that to be closed at the people are for that to be closed at the people a re pretty for that to be closed at the people are pretty confident that will be some movement. the big focus is how will those rights be guaranteed and will those rights be guaranteed and will that be a role forjudges at the european court ofjustice? the real sticking point is the so—called financial settlement, working out how much money if any the uk owes to the eu. as it leaves the eu there are still big differences on both sides and the uk challenging a lot of the demands michel barnier is making. michel barnier asking that the uk translate the warm words of theresa may a few weeks ago in to detailed negotiating positions. there was talk of the possibility of an ordeal and that is something i know that eu officials do not like. they feel it is a kind of threat and a gun to their head. the eu side of the equation are preparing for the eventuality of there being no deal because a lot of the papers they have published, they are very detailed technical papers and other about what to do if that is not a deal when the uk leaves so that is a paper on what about goods that have on the mark of the day before brexit? how can you make sure they are still able to be sold at the after brexit? they are looking at some of that. the prepared to not talk about no deal because they say it is on the interests of both sides. to reach a deal. when you talk to eu diplomats when you put them the timetable you have made for them the timetable you have made for the brexit process is about extracting as many concessions and as much money from the uk as possible by getting them to sign up to those things supermen talk about trade and phase two, the diplomats say that is not a fair way to look at it. they say the way they make the schedule raters is if you get the schedule raters is if you get the difficult issues like money dealt with in phase one that mean they can hold up face to which actually increases your chance of getting a deal. adam, thank you very much indeed. while we're talking about matters of the european union we have heard that the eu commission have called on spain and the catalan authorities to open dialogue. there has been criticism of the eu for not doing enough to try to end that constitutional stand—off in spain between madrid and the catalan authorities in barcelona but the eu commission now calling on spain and the catalan authorities to open a dialogue. we will bring you more dramatic as it comes to us. let's look at some of today's other developing stories: the fashion designer donna karan has been criticised for defending the film producer harvey weinstein, who's been accused of sexually harassing multiple women. in an interview with the daily mail, donna karan said women who dress sensually could be ‘asking for trouble‘. the designer later said her comments were ‘out of context‘ and apologised to anyone offended. on sunday harvey weinstein was fired by the board of the company he founded after it learned of new information about his behaviour. a gang of robbers has fled after a smash and grab raid at a high—end jewellers in central london. the six thieves escaped on a single moped after the robbery at mappin & webb on regents street, making off with a number of high valued items. no arrests have been made and police are appealing the police are appealing for witnesses. the government‘s being encouraged to release inmates serving short jail terms, to ease the pressure on the prison system in england and wales. the call‘s being made by the president of the prison governors‘ association at its annual conference today. it comes as a report from the chief inspector of prisons highlights what it says are the "insanitary, unhygienic and degrading" conditions that many inmates are being held in. scotland‘s first minister nicola sturgeon will address the final day of her party‘s conference in glasgow later. the snp leader is expected to say she wants to "put scotland in the driving seat" with radical policies that will equip the country for the next decade and beyond. the first minister will also flesh out plans to expand free early learning and childcare. for a full summary of the news you can go to our website where you‘ll be able to get more details on all of the day‘s top stories. inspectors are warning that the health and care system is "straining at the seams" to cope with unprecedented pressure caused by people living longer. the regulator, the care quality commission, says its annual report provides the first complete picture of what is happening across the sector. it is calling for urgent action to find a long term solution to funding. 0ur social affairs correspondent, alison holt reports. from the doors of emergency departments, where they cope with rising numbers of people needing help, to nursing home beds closing, and care homes struggling to find the staff they need, today‘s report says this is a health and care system under huge pressure. the regulator, the care quality commission, says it is thanks to the hard work of staff that most care is good, but it warns that the future quality of care looks precarious. extra money has helped ease some pressures in the short—term, but the man who runs the cqc says it is vital there is a long—term plan to support the ageing population soon. there is an urgent need to have some stability and security in the system so that the future generations can begin to receive high—quality care. at the minute we haven‘t got the security and the stability of knowing what the future holds. there is no date yet for the government‘s promised green paper on social care but it says that it is investing more in both services and staff. time for luke at the weather prospects with lucy martin. a little bit more in the way of , and azé’"""*"" a little bit more in the way of , and a little 7m brightness and sunshine. a little bit more cloud across england and wales. further south and east, it be dry with some clear spells. temperatures are staying in the double figures, the far north it is cooler. a wet and windy start of the day and we could see some heavy bursts across cumbria, lancashire and the far north—west of wales. that brain could be heavy over the hills. behind it we will see a sunny spells and thundery showers further to the south and east. a cloudy picture, temperatures reaching a maximum of 17. this is bbc news, our latest headlines. bae systems is planning to cut almost 2,000 jobs in military, maritime and intelligence services. a total of 750 posts will go at the warton and samlesbury plants in lancashire where parts for the eurofighter typhoon are manufactured. the prime minister says institutions must "explain or change" over how they treat people of different races. data released later today it is expected to show unemployment for black, asian and minority ethnic people at nearly double that of white british adults. ten people have died and the number is expected to grow as fifteen wildfires rage across northern california, with the biggest ones scorching the state‘s famous wine country. inspectors are warning that the health and care system in england is "straining at the seams" to cope with unprecedented pressure caused by people living longer but in poorer health. all sport now including the drama of last night ‘s football. chris coleman says it is far too early to think about his own future, they failed to qualify for the world cup losing 1—0 to ireland who have pipped them to a play—off spot. the night started with an a cappella welsh anthem inside a packed cardiff city stadium. gareth bale start to limit the euros but he was injured and watched from the stands. wales lostjoe allen to concussion. the republic won the match by a single loan. they lea pfrogged the republic won the match by a single loan. they leapfrogged the welsh into second in the group. taking that play—off place. after the highs of last summer, the welsh players and fans were distraught at the full—time whistle. i feel like i‘ve full—time whistle. ifeel like i‘ve come full—time whistle. i feel like i‘ve come up short. we haven‘t quite got there, no excuses about who we‘ve got playing. we‘re role in the same boat at the end of the day. it hasn‘t been enough. it has been a hell of an effort, it just hasn‘t been enough. i am absolutely gutted we haven‘t made. devastated. the republic of ireland and northern ireland need to beat two of the unseeded teams when the draw is made next week. there are some qualifiers to be played in europe tonight that they could face portugal or switzerland. italy, croatia denmark. i don't think anybody would want to players. do feared teams in their? absolutely, everyone of them, every single one of them. but i have always feared teams. it is the best way to be. then we go out and beat them. those players are going to be played next month, almost exactly a month away. england, germany, belgium, spain, poland and serbia have qualified automatically for russia and so to this team. iceland, who knocked england out of the euros last year, but by population they are the smallest nation to have appeared in the tournament. they top their group after beating kosovo last night. that is then celebrating. russia should be braced for that thunderclap chant. that is then celebrating in reykjavik after beating kosovo. fantastic achievement. this will also be an amazing achievement if syria could get a russia. they are playing the second leg of their world cup play—off match against australia in sydney. it was 1—1 after the first leg. syria took the lead at first leg. syria took the lead at first leg but australia have equalised there. it is 2—2 as it stands with about ten minutes to go. they would go to extra time unless that is another goal pretty quickly. wales have named their squad for the rugby league world cup in australia and papua new guinea that starts later this month. super league young player of the nominee is among those selected. there are also three uncapped players in the 2a. rugby union, the barbarians are forming their first union, the barbarians are forming theirfirst women‘s union, the barbarians are forming their first women‘s team. the invitational club has featured the greatest rugby union players from the men‘s game through the years. this is going to help take the women‘s game to a different level, players from the home nations as well as france and new zealand will play munster in film and park next month. a good win for aljaz bedene at the shanghai masters, he beat the italian in straight sets. he is into the second round but a year after serving a ban, the australian nick kyrgios could be in more trouble. he retired after losing the first set up retired after losing the first set up his match against stevejohnson in an apparent protest at the if? smashed ' " w ' "” w w t'” f: smashed a " w w” ., ., "” f: smashed a couple w w w w ' balls f: smashed a couple ,. ff ., w — balls into f: smashed a couple ,. ff ., 77—— the net. he was heard of balls into the net. he was heard to say he mid quit if you lost to say he would quit if you lost that first tie—break. he did. he walked off to jeers from the crowd thatis walked off to jeers from the crowd that is of the sports for now, much more for you in the next hour. new figures due out this afternoon are expected to show that people from ethnic minorities in the uk are twice as likely to be unemployed. the government report will also say that white working—class students are less likely to go to university. for more on this lets cross to our central london studio and speak to professor matthew goodwin, senior visiting fellow with the europe programme at chatham house. thank you for being with us. from what you know of these findings, are you surprised? i don't think the findings themselves will surprise researchers who work in this area of policymakers and civil society groups. about ten years ago the commission on integration and cohesion pointed to similar issues and underthe labour cohesion pointed to similar issues and under the labour government we have the connecting communities programme that talked of problems within white working class communities. but that said, this is the first serious attempt to share data on these issues. that is important, it will add a degree of transparency, it will trigger a debate about what is driving that. from my understanding that there are 300 datasets in total, around 60 of which are being shared today. this isa which are being shared today. this is a significant move. what do you think is driving this? this disparity. we were speaking to the former deputy mayor of london who were saying it isn‘tjust about discrimination, there are other factors, geography and so on. the dangers of these figures is, she fears it could lead to a victim culture and people just blaming discrimination where that isn‘t the only factor. one of the only problems in this debate is you get polarisation. on one side you get people saying statistic fee was a victim culture and enables minorities to latch onto the statistics that on face value can be misleading, tojustify perhaps why they should not change behaviour or why organisations should not challenge attitudes. on the other side, of other civil servants and government who are saying people keep asking us to do something on this issue a first step is to collect all of the data that we have and to begin to dissect that data and understand why these challenges exist within our society. one of the specific criticisms we have seen today, which i do think is an element of credibility, is how we frame the issue and there has been much talk about racial injustice and ethnic factors. it is true that this is incredibly complex. there are issues related to class, geography, regional variations. it isn't simply non—white groups suffering discrimination against white groups. we know white working class kids on free school meals have issues related to social mobility. we need to be careful about how we frame the issue. thank you very much indeed for being with us. 0ur correspondent ben ando is in coventry. coventry is one of the hotspots identified by the government as an area where extra help is needed to boost employment and opportunity. yes, that is right. there are 20 hotspots identified 11 in london, two in the west midlands and here in coventry. 0ne two in the west midlands and here in coventry. one of the real aims of this creation of the website, this ethnicity factor figures website is to identify where in proportion to the overall population of the country certain groups underrepresented and they might be in senior positions in public sector organisations, it might be on the boards of directors, it might be in law firms. they are looking to see where this isn‘t reflecting the population as a whole and what can be done about it. numerous initiatives in certain hotspot areas will be brought in including, for example, mentoring schemes to help young people, traineeships will be brought in to give young people basic education in things like maths and english and certain skills. all aimed at the addressing that balance all that in balance and making it something that is less obvious than it has been. the idea of the website is to put these figures front and centre. it may make for uncomfortable reading but the idea is if those figures are visible that is if those figures are visible that is far more chance that something will be done about them. thank you very much indeed. seven survivors of torture have won they case. people were wrongly detained in immigration centres. the home office said it is not appealing against the ruling. let‘s get the latest on this from danny shaw who is at the high court for us. explain the importance of this case. this is a very significant case in terms of people who come to the uk claiming they have been victims of torture, abuse or persecution and find themselves in immigration detention. for the many hundreds of people in that position this is a very significant ruling. the new rules are brought in by the home office a year ago and in essence what they did was to narrow the definition of torture so there‘s previously, someone could claim they we re previously, someone could claim they were a victim of torture if they had suffered abuse in their home country, but now it has to be torture i someone acting for the state. what that meant is that a number of people were detained in immigration centres were particular vulnerable to harm in those centres, who were subsequently released because we now learn these rules we re because we now learn these rules were unlawful. the high court has ruled today that aspects of a new home office policy were unlawful, they will be no appeal by the home office so they have their own in the towel. to give you a few examples of people who were detained, they include people who are trafficked to the uk who had suffered the most dreadful abuse. victims of rape, a 93v dreadful abuse. victims of rape, a gay man who was beaten up severely in nigeria who came to uk seeking sanctuary. there was some of the people who were detained who previously would not have been under the old definition of torture. thank you very much indeed. pioneering fingerprint technology will soon be used in court. researchers from sheffield university and west yorkshire police are piloting a technique which means material from prints up to 30 years old can be broken down and analysed. spencer stokes reports. a crime—fighting method that has barely changed over the last century. fingerprints are unique marks of human identity. at crime scenes they are dusted, lifted and sent away to be scanned. expert at sheffield, hallam university are reinventing the process. fingerprints are being analysed for chemical composition. chemicals that can show amongst other things whether a suspect is a drug user or if they have been drinking. fingerprint is nothing but sweat and sweaters are biological matrix. the amount of information there to retrieve is huge. it is called mass spectrometry. fingerprints offer an insight into the lifestyle of the offender. alcohol consumed, what charismatic scan of bemused and the matter there is a lot of scientific work gone on with sheffield, hallam university and west yorkshire police and we are going to be convicting people who previously would have got away with it. fingerprints have helped secure convictions but those are visible traces left the scenes of crime could be about to offer up more clues than ever before. in a moment a summary of the business news this hour but first the headlines on bbc newsroom live: the defence company bae systems is planning to cut almost 2000 jobs in its military, maritime and intelligence service operations. theresa may will ask public bodies to explain all changed how they treat people of different races after a government audit revealed sweeping inequalities. at least ten people have been killed in wildfires in the winemaking area of northern california. bae scraps 2,000 jobs to give it what it calls "a sharper competitive edge and a renewed focus on technology". we will have more on this in a second. the office budget responsibility has admitted it has been overly optimistic about productivity growth in the uk. it said the first half of 2017 had seen productivity fall. the agency predicted in march output per hour would grow 1.a% and rise to 1.8% in 2021. but it said this has proved yet another false dawn. there was a record 23 million overseas visitors to the uk in the first half of this year according to visit britain. it‘s also seen a rise in "staycationers" to record numbers and it says uk tourism is benefiting from the weak pound. more on the bae systems job cuts. 2,000 are to go over the next three years, including warton and samlesbury in lancashire, where the eurofighter typhoon aircraft assembly takes place. jobs will also be cut at brough in east yorkshire and at raf bases in marham, norfolk, and leeming in north yorkshire. around 375 proposed redundancies were announced in baes maritime servicing and support business, mainly affecting portsmouth. the company said the cuts would "accelerate our evolution to a more streamlined, de—layered organisation, with a sharper competitive edge and a renewed focus on technology". let‘s find out what that actually means. joining me now is howard wheeldon, independent defence and aviation analyst. what does that mean? part of what it means is we mustn't lose sight of this. within the proposed cuts announced today is a layer of management going out to be systems. that is important because it shows they have looked at the situation across the board. they have a look that all part of the country and decided that what they need to do. based on the level of orders that they have against the level of workforce and expectations they have of the future. but all of these things together and this is looking at the need for tomorrow. he mentioned there, orders, isn‘t that a problem with orders? the reality is these courts in terms ofair the reality is these courts in terms of air anyway, what lies behind them isa of air anyway, what lies behind them is a lack of international orders rather than a lack of local orders. we know full well the mod isn't ordering nearly as much of the uk today in terms of military fast jets thanit today in terms of military fast jets than it used to. it is difficult to doa than it used to. it is difficult to do a programme on your own, you can't take that risk. over the years we have evolved into partnership programmes. it is in the uk as such, it is the lack of international orders. there are some orders there and a lock of campaigns going on but you get gaps in the situation and thatis you get gaps in the situation and that is what they are looking at now. they are saying, we can't afford to keep large numbers of personnel, workforce around if that isn't anything for them to do. very briefly, if we‘ve got orders, gaps in orders, is that bad news for a company that is shrinking? of course it is bad news. the government is doing a lot to support bae systems. the typhoon has got a long way to go yet. they have buggy at 35 which the uk hasa yet. they have buggy at 35 which the uk has a 15% global share in. lots of good news out there. there are technology investments as well. but the old—fashioned idea that you make planes, i'm afraid that has to change. it is a difference business today than it was ten or 20 years ago. many thanks. more tourists are coming to the uk than ever before and the number of uk residents holidaying at home has also hit record levels. the latest numbers come from visit britain and show between january and july this year an 8% increase in the number of overseas visitors and a 7% rise in uk residents holidaying at home. all of them spent around £13.3 billion, 9% more than in the same period last year. joining me now is visit britain‘s patricia yates. it is all to do with the cheap pound? it is all to do with the cheap pound ? the cheap it is all to do with the cheap pound? the cheap pound helps. the cheap and actually doesn't attract new visitors. if people don't have written on their wish list they are not going to suddenly want to count because we look slightly cheaper. there will always be destination that can beat us on price. we have to continue to compete on the fact we have a world—class tourism offer, that we are good value and we are welcoming to our visitors. where are most of these visitors coming from? we are seeing good growth from america, america is our most valuable market. we have seen over 3 million visitors come from there la st million visitors come from there last year. good strong growth from china, more than 70% of our visitors come from europe. that is the area where we need to work very hard to retain those visitors. we have seen a slight dip in the last three months. we can see that with brexit negotiations going on, continuing to get that message of welcome and value through our european visitors is crucial. you mentioned brexit, does it have an impact? does it have a negative side to it? the things the tourist industry is concerned about is ensuring we have free access for our visitors, we attract workers from right across the world. we have good aviation links but that message of britain being welcome to the world is important, that welcome message translates clearly into an increase in tourism numbers. thank you very much indeed for that. we will have more in an hour‘s time. the rspca says it‘s alarmed by the growing popularity of exotic animals, such as meerkats and snakes, making appearances at children‘s parties. the charity is concerned that many animals used for parties by so—called "mobile zoos" are being kept in poor, cramped conditions and handled inappropriately. from next year, stricter regulations on such businesses will be introduced in england, while the scottish and welsh governments are also looking into the issue. this is beryl. it is a growing industry. mobile zoos that bring exotic animals to you. they are a popular choice for kids parties and visits to schools and care homes. estimates suggest there are around 200 mobile zoos in the uk. some use smaller animals like guinea pigs or stick insects but others use large, exotic species. scott gavin set up his mobile zoo with his wife leanne two years ago. he started with one raccoon and now has 120 animals. this is a royal python from africa. you tend to get them around the kids shoulders and get a nice little photograph. these come from australia. they love to be handled, they follow you around the living room. this isn‘t albino burmese place python. he is probably about four stone in weight. would people hold him at events? yes. people will hold him. children tend to be more like five, six at one time. and then we move on to the ones with sharp teeth. this is a raccoon dog. she was about seven weeks old when i got her. so if you took her to events, children would be able to stroke her? they would be yes. we don't let them stroke her face becasue she will have a little nip now and then. is that safe? has there ever been any...? no, we've never had any bites. we have risk assessments that we take out and we make them sign. 10 million liability. unlike zoos or pet shops there are currently few regulations controlling mobile zoos. following concerns about animal welfare and human safety, the government is now updating the law. soon companies in england will need a licence from their local council listing all the animals they use. the rspca welcomes the move but says it is concerned about enforcement and whether the measures go far enough. currently, with mobile zoos it is a free forall, really. anyone and anybody can set up these places. it is extremely easy to get a whole range of exotic animals and then set up shop tomorrow. we've had calls for all sorts of things, monkeys being taken to shopping centres being handed around, crocodiles being taken to pubs and nightclubs. just generally, animals being stacked up in inappropriate boxes and enclosures and taken to places for display and for handing around. this is room one, the animal room. in 2013, the rspca rescued 70 animals from a mobile zoo that was keeping them in cramped, filthy conditions. the owner pled guilty to 3a animal welfare offences but was able to continue running his business. this is rosie. rosie is a chilean rose tarantula. many of the mobile zoos we spoke to only use smaller animals and pride themselves on their animal welfare standards. they support the move towards tighter regulation, hoping it‘ll shut out more disreputable companies. she is my pride and joy, aren't you, girl. how many people can get cuddles with raccoons. it is amazing. scott gavin says he also supports the idea of more regulation but defends his use of large exotic animals, a practice many campaigners want banned. is it ok to put a rabbit in a little hutch but not ok to own a raccoon? you can have a hamster but you can't have a hedgehog. people are being very picky on things. in england, the new rules will take effect next year. the welsh and scottish government are also looking at bringing in new laws. until then, campaigners are urging parents to think carefully before booking any mobile zoo for their child‘s party. now, some pictures filmed by passengers on a school bus in the us city of baltimore have gone viral. a man is seen clinging to the front of the bus after some students allegedly threw a bottle from the vehicle, hitting his car. the man was later arrested on charges including disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace. the headlines are coming up on the bbc news channel. first we leave you with for a look at the weather. afairamount of a fair amount of cloud and to begin with this morning but we will see a little bit more in brightness than we saw yesterday. 0ur weather watchers have been sending their pictures in. a little bit more brightness in this one, sunny spells developing. this one was sent in from off worse. the best of the brightness this morning across eastern parts of scotland and further north you are, the further south more cloud. this afternoon, it will brighten up across england and wales and sunny spells developing. mostly dry with the risk of an isolated shower. further north, we start to see our next tour de france pushing in. the cloud increasing and ca rs pushing in. the cloud increasing and cars pushing into the north—west of scotland. eastern areas stay dry. as we go further south, more in the way of brighter weather and it will be drier here as well. temperatures in the mid teens. for wales, still the risk of 12 isolated showers. the best of the brightness in eastern parts of wales. the cloud taking its time to clear on the south—west. still one or two shows to look out for. temperatures in the south reaching a maximum of maybe 19 celsius. it will feel pleasant. as it through this evening, that area of rain was spread its way the south—east was so a spell of and windy weather to come. further south though, there will be a drier picture with drier spells. the far north could get a touch cooler but not feeling too bad further south. we will start the day tomorrow with some rain first thing for parts of south—west scotland into cumbria, lancashire and into the of there and it is the potential heavy there and it is the potential for disruption through the morning. further to the north behind that weather front, some sunny spells and thundery showers. temperatures reaching a maximum of 18 degrees celsius. that the rain clears to the south—east overnight so thursday is looking like a drier day across the board. it‘ll be a chilly start, sunny spells, cloud increasing as a move through the day. a few showers in the north—west. highs of 17. have a good day. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at mid—day. the defence company bae systems is planning to cut almost 2,000 jobs, many in lancashire. it is no people feeling nervous about their futures and that‘s what they will be looking to find out how this will be dealt with and hopefully we can mitigate as many jobs as possible. sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups in areas such as education and housing are revealed by a government audit. at least ten people die in wildfires sweeping the wine areas of northern california. a blow for the chancellor. his economic watchdog says it is slashing growth forecast. all eyes on the catalan leader as to whether he will declare independence to spain. also: information at the tip of yourfingers. the new fingerprint technique that can tell what you‘ve touched, eaten or had to drink — could soon be used as evidence in court. the defence contractor, bae systems, has announced it‘s planning to cut almost 2,000 jobs. the majority of roles will go at the firm‘s two sites in lancashire. unions are demanding urgent talks with the defence company. the firm says the redundancies are part of a move to streamline the business and have what it says is a "sharper competitive edge". a government spokesman said there would be no impact on britain‘s defence capabilities and they are working on potential support for affected workers. mark allen is the united chairman at bae. it is very disappointing. it is fair to say we we re disappointing. it is fair to say we were expecting an announcement that it‘s always disappointing. i think people were expecting something but it is no people feeling nervous about their futures and that is what we will be looking to to find out how this will be dealt with and hopefully we can mitigate as many jobs as possible and with any luck get future orders that will sustain the workforce for a period going forward. the company says because of the slowdown in production may have to do something. do you accept that point of view? we understand that. we know some of the production lines are running down but we were keen to work with the company and try and motivate the government to help us with export campaigns and further development of aircraft and future systems. we can cross to our westminster studio and speak to our assistant political editor norman smith. all eyes on the government to see if they can mitigate these job losses. we have had from the labour party calls to bring forward other defence orders but above all i think will be concerned. because across all parties there is a view that britain will depend on these high—tech, high—valuejobs for our will depend on these high—tech, high—value jobs for our economic future surveys are exactly the sort ofjobs we cannot afford to lose. 2000 jobs are spread across a large pa rt 2000 jobs are spread across a large part of the country. notjust yorkshire but lancashire and norfolk and portsmouth. ramifications for the defence industry. questions asked as to whether we are too reliant on buying off—the—shelf kit in countries like the united states and this comes at a time when we know there is real pressure on the defence budget and suggestions could bea defence budget and suggestions could be a black hole of up to £30 billion over the next ten years or so in the defence budget because of those big commitments around aircraft carriers. there is a lot of critical issues for ministers to address here and interesting hearing from the shadow defence secretary this morning. she suggested that maybe one help one of alleviation could be provided by giving british aerial sprays the orders to build new hawk red arrows aircraft. this is why particularly worried. i really don't feel the government has a proper defence industrial strategy. there isa defence industrial strategy. there is a stop start approach and it is important we get ahead of the game and have the technical logical advantage which is important for our security as well asjobs. advantage which is important for our security as well as jobs. once you lose these workers is impossible to restart and get back to that level again. we will hear from the defence secretary michael fallon in the commons in an hour. nia griffiths has been granted an emergency debate on the subject. earlier mr fallon did not seem to dominica to. what is your reaction to the losses of nearly 2000 jobs? will the government take action to preserve thejobs? no government take action to preserve the jobs? no answers there from michael fallon. a lot of speculation as to whether the bae decision was influenced by brexit. the company has said it has nothing to do with brexit but the number of remain campaigners are already suggesting that because a company like bae has very long and complex supply chain is it underlines the importance of staying inside a single market and customs union and on top of all that we are expecting later this afternoon a statement from the business secretary about bombardier which has had huge tariffs slapped on it by the us supreme court and has been a suggestion from the defence secretary michael fallon that the government could potentially look at retaliatory action against american companies such as boring if they are going to be looking at future uk defence contracts be looking at future uk defence co ntra cts if be looking at future uk defence contracts if those talents are not removed. that track —— —— boeing. theresa may is challenging public bodies to "explain or change" sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups theresa may is challenging public bodies to "explain or change" sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups in areas such as education, housing and criminal justice. she is launching the results of the government‘s racial disparities audit. theresa may is challenging public bodies to "explain or change" sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups in areas such as education, housing and criminal justice. she is launching the results of the government‘s racial disparities audit. findings include that the unemployment rate for black, theresa may is challenging public bodies to "explain or change" sweeping inequalities between different ethnic groups in areas such as education, housing and criminal justice. she is launching the results of the government‘s racial disparities audit. findings include that the unemployment rate for black, asian and minority ethnic people is nearly double that of white british adults and white british pupils on free school meals the findings also show that those more likely to own their own home are indian, pakistani and white people compared with black people it will highlight some of the things... it was theresa may‘s promise when she became prime minister to make a fairer britain for everyone. today‘s audit of race shows inequality and divisions. perena polius is a maths teacher. she won a race discrimination tribunal and believes we are far from an equal society. the fact i have to be ten times better than my white colleagues in order to go forward and make any progress, although i was the most qualified and the most experienced, i was still looked over by a white male, who was eventually put into the position. today the government will introduce extra help for getting minorities trying to find a job in 20 areas across britain, where there are the greatest inequalities. but is it enough to tackle what the government calls uncomfortable truths? there should be a coherent strategy where government actually appoints one individual, ideally a secretary of state, to lead on the development, the implementation and the delivery of a coherent race strategy. the government says it‘s highlighting burning injustices, but there‘s also the burning question, can the government deliver radical measures that will get under the skin of racial the communities secretary sajid javid said the publication of the data will allow the government to take action where necessary. in some cases it might be a rational explanation and another cases it will require change and across departmental approach with every departmental approach with every department in the government. for more on this let‘s cross to our central london studio and talk to conor ryan, director of research at the sutton trust, an education think tank. what do see as the disparities in the british education system? we welcome that the government is publishing this research. it is necessary would get perspective on it. that is disparity particularly with working class and black caribbean boys significantly underachieving. we also see that some minority ethnic communities like the chinese and indian committees and bangladesh community are doing significantly better at school but that does not necessarily follow through to opportunities in the workforce and university. what we think is it is really important you look at this in the round and you look at this in the round and you look at what is happening in terms of ethnicity and social class background. you look at geography because those in london are doing better than those in other parts of the country. you look agenda because girls do better than boys in most communities, particularly black caribbean girls. can the government to do something about that? if it is not a level playing field can they do something to make it a level playing field chris m if you look in london and at the bangladesh community over the past 20 years it is is possible to see real improvements for disadvantaged youngsters of all ethnic backgrounds andi youngsters of all ethnic backgrounds and i think it is about having good teaching in schools and good leadership and sharing and having evidence —based measures. leadership and sharing and having evidence —based measuresm leadership and sharing and having evidence -based measures. it is also about working with parents and sharing with the committee. what we have seen in some of the more successful applicant minority communities as you have a very strong parental value on education and a strong culture of education and a strong culture of education and think that is something that can be more widespread and we hope to facilitate the spreading of that and the spreading of what has worked well and london could go a long way spreading improvements. so london is a role model in many ways but that is not really a silver bullet. it is important you look at all of the different factors and notjust ethnicity but social background is really important. there are some research into what has happened in london that says it is notjust about the reform programmes to place in the 2000 but also that you had a good social mix in schools between people of different backgrounds and different communities and also the presence of migrant children in a lot of london schools was one of the factors that help them improve but it is really important we look at the data and look at what is happening in different parts of the country and we see what is happening with similar children and similar backgrounds whether ethical social in one part of the country they are doing significantly better than others. if we take that we make some progress but it is important that is carried on later life so they do well in school they need to do well in university and employment as well. wildfires in the state of california have killed at least ten people, and forced around 20,000 from their homes. at least 1,500 properties have been destroyed as the flames have spread in hot weather, carried by strong winds. governorjerry brown, has declared a state of emergency in the wine counties of napa, sonoma and yuba. this satellite imagery shows the extent of the fires across the state. the bbc‘s dave lee reports from san francisco. we can‘t film inside right now because it is getting late here and people are just about getting a headstone to sleep or try to sleep. many of them have been here since late sunday night when they were woken up in the middle of the knights by furious knocking on the door telling them to leave immediately because those games were fast approaching. i opened my front door to find out what was going on and about ten feet away was a wall of flame, right near my daughter. and i got my pants and my shirt and my keys and my wallet and got the heck out of there. around 20,000 people in all had been taken to shelters like this one, some of them have had to come from specialist ca re have had to come from specialist care centres. we have a special needs shelters set up in the back with skilled nursing staff and doctors on duty and mets and that sort of thing. how are people coping? many people are traumatised, like any disaster. nearly 20,000 acres have been hit —— 70,000 acres. you can smell burning wood in the air. places like this are a temporary solution. the truth is many people they are simply don‘t know if they have a home to go back to. bae ba e syste ms bae systems has announced it is planning to cut almost 2000 jobs. let‘s get the latest now from the bae site at broth in east yorkshire. —— brough. what other workers saying? unite has said this is a short sighted decision brough. it is a small town and this is a big local employers. in the last year the emphasis is changed from making hawk aircraft to research and development and innovation and these are highly sophisticated jobs for the workers here will find it difficult to get other employment in the area. the latest on the job losses at brough in east yorkshire. that is our top story today. bae systems planning to cut almost 2000 jobs in military, maritime and intelligence services. theresa may well ask public bodies to say and how they treat ethnic minorities after a survey revealed slipping inadequacies —— sleeping inequalities. ten people have been killed in fires in northern california. lee foster has news of the sport. broken hearts for footballers in wales. wales failed to qualify for the world cup. wales have failed to qualify for next year‘s world cup the in russia. last year‘s euro semi—finallists missed out on a play—off spot to the republic of ireland after losing to them 1—0 in cardiff last night. despair after the highs of last summer when chris coleman took his side to the euro semifinals. ican i can say right now about my future. we have our dressing room full of devastated fans and staff. to lose a world cup. to passers by this time. syria are playing the second leg of their fourth round qualifying world cup game industry layer. won all full—time and to all on aggregate. currently our next time. they are minutes away from penalties. it is still one all on the night in sydney. whoever comes through, a likely penalty shoot out, they will have to face and other players to get into russia. —— another play. it would probably be the united states. wales have named a squad for the rugby league world cup and destroyed. and papua new guinea later this month. super league young player of the year nominee st helens‘ regan grace is in the 2a. and the barbarians say they want to take womens rugby union to ‘a different level‘ by forming their first women‘s team. players from each of the home nations as well as france and new zealand will play against munster in their first match next month i‘ll be back with more on those at the shanghai masters lorenzi was beaten. a year after he got a h_ h k dios i}: heard to sa would quit if he lost the first he would quit if he lost the first set. he did. he was not hurt is anything but shook hands and left. the leader of catalonia‘s devolved government will address the regional parliament later today — and there is speculation that he could unilaterally declare independence from spain. carles puigdemont will address regional politicians and present the results of a disputed referendum his government held, even though the spanish central government declared it illegal. let‘s cross over to tim willcox in barcelona. whatever he says could lead to the break—up of spain and is something the prime minister is vehemently opposed to. at six o‘clock local time carles puigdemont will give an address on the situation. a situation that everyone in spain and around europe is watching closely. let‘s speak to one of his supporters who is a member of the pro—independence party like carles puigdemont fighting for independence for several decades. what will he say? we don‘t know exactly the words. what is the indication? the indication as to follow the law of the referendum of self—determination of catalonia and to follow the results of the referendum. of catalonia and to follow the results of the referendumm of catalonia and to follow the results of the referendum. if he does that, 90% support for independence, so that is what you will put before parliament and there will put before parliament and there will be a vote? yes, we will go ahead with this guess the people said on sunday the 1st of october and we will all the doors. they have been always open to talk and dialogue. that is not the letter of the law, which is if it is a majority then it follows independence will be declared? yes, we will go ahead on that with the opinion of the big blue bordered on the 1st of october. even although madrid said this referendum was illegal and even although france and other members of the eu say if you declare independence you will not be allowed in the club? yes, i know that madrid was says everything is illegal and the suspended yesterday canonisation we should have had here and there was doing this and so porting repression of people who wa nt to porting repression of people who want to vote. 0ur answer is democracy peacefully and we will go ahead with the majority. after so many years of fighting for independence are you excited about the announcement today? yes, of course i am. i am excited and it has excited all the people who want to be independent here and catalonia. in although more than 50% of cata la ns in although more than 50% of catalans potentially don‘t agree with independence. look at the demonstration on sunday. hundreds of thousands of people saying we want to stay part of spain. yes, but we have a very big demonstration here each year saying that we want to be independent and we want to decide our future and we want to exercise our future and we want to exercise our right to self—determination. our future and we want to exercise our right to self-determination. are you frightened about how madrid might respond? no, ithink you frightened about how madrid might respond? no, i think madrid is going to make threats against this and while the kind that i think today in 2070 and it is not a cce pta ble today in 2070 and it is not acceptable that the use of force against the people. it is more than against the people. it is more than a threat, bill,. they are saying you are outside the law and this was illegal. you could have a parliament suspended and ca rles illegal. you could have a parliament suspended and carles puigdemont yourself to be arrested. they don't do politics but they do intimidation and threats and bob are asking for his dialogue with them and the european union. but would an independent catalonia not rely on people being below as well? i didn‘t really understand that. all countries and states need to obey the laws that have been decided so as part of spain you to be the spain. yes, of course, and that is why we are approved a law here in the parliament of catalonia to do this referendum and they did not wa nt to this referendum and they did not want to agree with us. that law was not recognised by madrid. the spanish by minister is due to speak to his parliament after carles puigdemont has given his address. it means to be seek notjust what ca rles means to be seek notjust what carles puigdemont says that also the spanish prime minister. the office for fiscal responsibility has said it has been over optimistic about growth in the united kingdom. this could have locations about growth and what the chancellor will say. in the budget on the 22nd. productivity has been a real problem in this country really slumping after the financial crisis in 2008. it seems that now because of the office for budget responsibility using the wrong figures they will have to revise downwards their productivity forecast. productivity is the amount of units produce per person per hour. and we were hoping properly by 2021 we would get growth in productivity of about 1.8% a year. aborted as it was about 2% of two and a half percent was going fairly strongly. even with those optimistic figures of 1.8% by 2021 it was still quite low. but these figures will be lower still. that means you have low productivity and lower growth and then look at tax receipts and then if you have a lower tax receipts you can pay off your deficit. productivity amongst the british workforce has been a perennial problem. we‘re a long way behind our key competitors. we started to examine this problem about why british workers are so bad at getting productivity growth going. 0ne expedition from the office for budget responsibility seems to suggest that low interest rates, the way we tackle the financial crisis, putting interest rates down, could‘ve been part of the cause for this. by putting interest rates low and also demanding that the banks have high capital requirements, keeping a lot of money back and not lending out, meant to things. 0n of money back and not lending out, meant to things. on one hand it meant to things. on one hand it meant a lot of companies which possibly should have gone under and should have had more of a problem in surviving a financial crisis, bit of creative destruction should‘ve gone on. but they went on and employed cheap labour and on. but they went on and employed cheap labourand did on. but they went on and employed cheap labour and did not invest in new machinery and did not become more productive and as a result of low interest rates they kept on going. banks with high capital requirements did not lend money to new innovative firms so we did not find a new people coming in taking over that process of creative destruction which many people talk about which is very painful but the capitalist system which we hear so much about thrives on the idea of greater destruction. new people, new innovative and more productive companies come in, invest and create long—term growth. companies come in, invest and create long-term growth. after brexit productivity is going to be a very important issue. when compared to the g7 countries, we had some figures and other data that showed we are 15% less productive than the average g7 country. we are 22% less productive than germany and 9% less productive than germany and 9% less productive than germany and 9% less productive than italy. so we still have a very long way to go in terms of productivity and we still have not really cracked the problem yet. 0ne not really cracked the problem yet. one thing not really cracked the problem yet. 0ne thingi not really cracked the problem yet. one thing i would say about brexit is that many people do believe that if we have a tightening of the labour market and don‘t have so many people available to work cheap labour, companies will have no option but to invest. that is one positive view about what brexit may do. as you say in a post—brexit environment we need to be productive. thank you very much. let‘s check out the latest weather forecast with louise lear. i was going to say good morning. it is good afternoon. it has been a cloudy start of the day. the cloud is starting to thin and break as we speak. favoured spots, eastern scotla nd speak. favoured spots, eastern scotland and not looking too bad across not wales and north england. strengthening winds coming from south westerly direction. this way graduate and quite heavy. ahead of it for the site we will continue to seek some sunshine and it will feel reasonably warm, ten to 18 degrees particularly in the sun. rain was willing to western scotland this evening in to northern ireland and overnight into north—west england and wales. southwest breeze continues to keep a lot of pride. it will stay mild through the night with double—digit for all. the heaviest of the rain tomorrow likely to be through north west england, particularly the lake district where because a 100 millimetres of rain. that‘s lipsyte and it stays dry during the day in the south—east corner. sunny spells and scattered showers, some heavy and possibly thundery in the north and west. this is bbc newsroom live our latest headlines. the defence company bae systems is planning to cut almost 2,000 jobs in military, maritime and intelligence services. 750 posts will go at the warton and samlesbury plants in lancashire where parts for the eurofighter typhoon are manufactured. theresa may says institutions must "explain or change" how they treat people of different races. government data released later is expected to show unemployment for black, asian and minority ethnic people at nearly double that of white british adults. at least 10 people are killed as flames whipped up by winds engulf parts of northern california. a state of emergency has been declared in northern areas after mass evacuations, with 1,500 properties destroyed. inspectors are warning that the health and care system in england is "straining at the seams" to cope with unprecedented pressure caused by people living longer but in poorer health. let me show you the scene in the house of commons because we had expected an urgent question from the labourmp expected an urgent question from the labour mp about those be systems job losses we were talking about. 2000 altogether that the defence company have announced, there will be an urgent question on that and we‘ll bring you that live as soon as it comes up. more on our top story this morning. a government report‘s expected to show that the unemployment rate among black and ethnic minorities, is nearly double that of white british adults. it‘s also found that white working—class students are less likely to go to university. with me is is kimberly mcintosh, she‘s from the runnymede trust, who have also published a report today warning that women from black and minority ethnic communities are the biggest losers from tax and benefits changes imposed since 2010. and in birmingham, waqarazmi, he was the government‘s former chief diversity adviser at the cabinet office. thank you both for being with us. kimberley, talk to us first fall in general terms about what you see as the disparity we are hearing. the government have got this report today, you have got your reports come out what in general would you say the disparities are? the disparities we are seeing today are alarming, maybe not us working in the sector but they don‘t come as a surprise. in education we are seeing stark disparities. the report we have released shows that on top of what we are seeing in terms of the race disparity unit, black and asian women and losing at the most particularly the poorest, in regards to tax and benefit changes we have seen since 2010. losing as much as 8000-11,000 per seen since 2010. losing as much as 8000—11,000 per year if these policies continue to stay in place. that is a specific finding. in general terms about the disparities. we were talking about education, employment, all sorts of different areas. what do you put those disparities down to in a nutshell? isn‘t discrimination? are there more factors ? isn‘t discrimination? are there more factors? discrimination is certainly an important one. if we look at the very well covered cv studies we have seen where if you have a muslim sounding name, you have to send in three times as many applications to getan three times as many applications to get an interview. that is an indication that discrimination is occurring. aa% of people believe some ethnic minority backgrounds are just less hard—working some ethnic minority backgrounds are just less ha rd—working than some ethnic minority backgrounds are just less hard—working than others. this is seeping into the labour market. if you and a company who would you hire? mod you think is less ha rd—working ? would you hire? mod you think is less hard-working? the former chief diversity adviser at the cabinet office, these findings today, what do you put them down to? people are talking about there are other factors come geography and so on.” put it down to a culture of complacency. following the stephen lawrence enquiry report we had a really positive response from public sector authorities. we had a positive response from the government and there was a mood for change. but now we seem to have falle n change. but now we seem to have fallen into that complacent culture where we know, and each organisation there is no the disparity, they do know what is going on. there is that complacent culture in terms of, they are not doing anything about it. what sort of change do you want to see. we‘re talking about huge areas of life, education, employment so on but give some examples. quite basic would be, when i met a permanent secretary of the cabinet office, that particular person told me, if the cabinet secretary, the prime minister, says to me this is a priority, make this as part of my performance indicators. that is what we did in the cabinet office. if the government is serious about this, that there has to be put in the performance indicators of each organisation. our organisations meet their targets, they deliver the businesses and we need to take this in the same way. kimberly, what kind of change would you like to see? the government has said, theresa may has said this is a personal priority. do you believe her? i am hopeful, certainly. we have seen government saying they will pilot employment projects in hotspots and they are going to take on the recommendations. we need to me confidence and change will be made. however, i am confidence and change will be made. however, iam mindful to confidence and change will be made. however, i am mindful to see whether the commitments government make further to this. will we see a comprehensive race equality strategy across all departments setting targets and priorities and how they are going to be change? why do these disparities exist and what are they going to do is tackle them? we were talking earlier the former deputy mayor of london who said the trouble with these kind of statistics is they can breed a of victimhood. would you go along with that? no, i disagree with that. the fax that exist, do exist and it is not promoting a culture of victimhood. looking at the problems that exist in our communities. why is it that 32% of those white pupils who live in the poorest areas, only 32% perform? the in the poorest areas, only 32% perform ? the majority in the poorest areas, only 32% perform? the majority of white pupils underperform. the expected level of white pupils is 32%. why is it that is black and ethnic minorities... ok, ok. thank you. we have got to go to the commons for that urgent question on bae. i know the government and all of a are disappointed to hear the news that the crew do is considering reductions of up to 1a00 staff in its military airand reductions of up to 1a00 staff in its military air and information businesses. 375 in its maritime division and 150 in its intelligence business. this is a concern in time for bae systems. that is why i can assure the honourable gentleman to government stands ready to support fully those affected. colleagues across the ministry of defence, my department and others are reviewing what support we can offer to the company as it goes through this process. the dwp is also standing by to provide whatever advice and support is required. i would like to set our three main points. 0ne support is required. i would like to set our three main points. one to provide an update on the process, too, to explain the rationale for the changes, three, to set out of the changes, three, to set out of the government is doing to support the government is doing to support the company and the sector with our business. bae systems will enter a period of a 30 day consultation process and no final decisions will be taken in terms of level or type of redundancies and that process is completed. the government to continue to work with bae to ensure compulsory redundancies are kept to a minimum and the company assures ‘s predictions can be managed on a volu nta ry predictions can be managed on a voluntary basis as far as possible. the dwp rapid response team are engaged and standing by waiting to deploy. it is important given the skills that have been built up by people in the workforce they are retained within the uk industry as far as possible and that is where we will be using the retention system that has been designed by my department is working with the sector to ensure vital skills are not lost to the uk. turning to the rationale for the announcement, the house should be absolutely clear bae systems has taken this decision as a result of effectively normal business practice. it is the result of internal restructuring and the drive to transform is businesses so it can continue to be one of our most efficient and effective companies generating export orders across the world. this is not related to any uk defence spending decisions. thirdly, to answer the question, forgive me mr speaker, the honourable members can shout all they like but it is a striking and they like but it is a striking and they hope we cannot get politics into this. it was very striking how do you to be not the honourable members opposite, but other members went out of their way to criticise exactly this industry that we‘re talking about today. i suggest we calmed down, think about the people affected and think about what we can do to support them. to reaffirm, in the last year the ministry of defence has spent almost £a billion with bae systems as part of the £18 billion was spent across government buying products and services from uk industry. we continually banged the drum, lead the charge for our world leading defence industry across the globe. maximising export opportunities both companies like bae opportunities both companies like ba e syste ms opportunities both companies like bae systems and the thousands of people employed in their supply chains. 0nly last month the defence secretary signed the statement of intent with cat by 2a typhoons and six hawks. this is extremely positive news and demonstrates continued confidence globally of britain‘s defence industry. we will continue to work with bae systems to maximise opportunities for the typhoon and hawk training aircraft and the type 26 combat ship in markets such as saudi arabia, indonesia, belgium, finland, canada and australia. we absolutely understand this is a worrying time for those affected. we are determined to do all we can to support bae systems future export opportunities and i stand by ready to meet workers unions and mps. thank you for allowing this urgent question. today's announcements by bae systems has come as a blow to thousands of workers and their families across lancashire in the run—up to christmas. the majority of landless mps have written to the prime minister seeking immediate action and offering to establish a task force to avert this disaster. and as the minister for a swift, meaningful and positive response to our request. can i also ask, what longer—term action is the government taking to win contracts around the globe to fly the flag and to sell eurofighter typhoon and hawk as this is essential to sustaining the uk's leading—edge technology and solving capability as well as highly skilled jobs and a massive supply chain in the north—west of england. in order to maintaina the north—west of england. in order to maintain a leading edge we must look to the future. bae systems is taking a big step by developing a £12 million academy in lancashire. will the governments play its role and announce an industrial strategy for aerospace as it has then we ship building and commit itself to assisting bae systems developed a sixth generation manned fighter aircraft? weather right honourable memberfor aircraft? weather right honourable member for chorley and hi aircraft? weather right honourable memberfor chorley and hi ben, i met with prime minister cameron to urgent secure vital contracts with japan and india and we were assured there was good news on the horizon. clearly there wasn't. the minister mentioned carter which is positive but is nothing like the size of those of the contracts. lancashire builds the finest because we have the best workforce in the world. we do want to be let down again so i am asking the minister to use her office rs asking the minister to use her officers to impress upon the prime minister at the major concerns of lancashire mps and mps across this house. thank you for your resident support both for this company and the sector. i will be delighted to meet the task force and we should extend the task force and we should extend the offer to workers and unions. we need to have maximum communication about the process or encourage the company to have communication particularly in this time. he is right to say the government has a very vital part of a banging the drum for british exports. i mentioned the qatar statement of intent. their ongoing discussions with saudi arabia. this technology for which there is an appetite around the world and for every unit thatis around the world and for every unit that is sold there is a whole provision of supply, maintenance etc. he asked about the sector industrial sector strategy. we actually and are having conversations with the aerospace sector about the smoke deal. he will already know we have worked with the industry on initiatives like the future combat systems technology to really set out is what we need to do both across this exports face part of the business but across the supply chain to ensure we have the right level of investment and skills going forward. when bae systems tells the government this is normal business practice, whether government replied to bae systems and remind them they are not a normal business because they enjoy a mere monopoly position in many parts of the british defence procurement structure. will they therefore extract from bae systems a promise to work closely with the government and to examine, to what extent any streamlining is truly necessary and to what extent this can be ameliorated by common action early in mind the special treatment bae systems so often receives from the uk government. the honourable gentleman is right to remind us we spend £a the honourable gentleman is right to remind us we spend £4 billion in procuring roddicks and services from bae. it is important if we want other globally competitive highly efficient bastion of success in this vital industry, we allow the company to go through is management processes. what a prick you systems. as we want to —— we want procure from bae systems. we also want to explore other opportunities. i am struck by the locations. there are opportunities for skilled engineering. i opportunities for skilled engineering. lam opportunities for skilled engineering. i am sorry to hear the honourable gentleman talking down this. however, we do remain absolutely committed to working with this company going forward. that is the business minister answering an urgent question on those bae systems job losses. 2000 jobs it is planning to cut. claire perry was saying the government will work with bae systems to keep compulsory redundancies to a minimum. she will meet workers and unions as well. that was the business minister claire perry. let‘s beat our news correspondence peter marshall who is that one of the plants affected at malton in lancashire. and he‘s saying how concerning all of this is in the run—up to christmas. people are hearing theirjobs are under threat just a few weeks away from christmas. the mood here is one of disappointment, it always is when this sort of level of job disappointment, it always is when this sort of level ofjob losses is announced. to give you the scale, we are here with they carry up the final assembly of the typhoon and the hawk aircraft. the sister site is down the road where they make parts for others to access, the total number of jobs is parts for others to access, the total number ofjobs is 7a6. that is going to be a big proportion and a lot of wordy for a lot of people. there is also an area of realism and unions and workers. they realise it is better to slow down production of the typhoon and the hawk at this stage so that is better than having to stop production altogether. if you do that, you lose skills and you can lose those skills for regeneration. there is disappointment bought an air of realism as well. we've also heard from labour mps suggesting that the government could help with this crisis, perhaps bring forward orders for things like greg barrowjetsons 01. yes, and that is something they unions here have commented on. if the red arrows do need replacement aircraft, wouldn‘t it be better if that aircraft was made here in britain so the red arrows, which sells britain all over the world with its incredible displays, surely to be better if that crack team is using a greater british aircraft. the other comment unions have made, in looking further forward to future orders with different people, it is better to develop partnerships in europe than with the bigger players like america because if you develop partnerships in europe you are a bigger player whereas if you do something with the us you are more ofa something with the us you are more of a subcontractor. thank you very much indeed. 2000 jobs altogether threatened by this news from bae defence systems. seven survivors of torture have won their legal challenge against home office rules on detention in the uk. the government‘s policy was said to have led to asylum seekers fleeing persecution being wrongly detained in uk immigration centres. our home affairs correspondent, danny shaw, was at the high court and said the home office will not appeal against the ruling. this is a very significant case in terms of people who come to uk claiming they have been victims of torture, abuse or persecution and find themselves immigration detention. for the many hundreds of people in that position this is a very significant ruling. the new rules are brought in by the home office a year ago and in essence what they did was then narrow the definition of torture so those previously someone could claim they we re previously someone could claim they were a victim of torture if they had suffered abuse in their home country but now it has to be tortured by someone acting for the state. what that meant is a number of people we re that meant is a number of people were detained in immigration centres, who are particularly vulnerable to harm, who was subsequently released because we now learn these rules were unlawful. the high court has ruled today aspects of the new home office policy were unlawful, that is going to be no appeal by the home office. they have thrown in the towel. to give you some examples of the people who were detained. they include people who are trafficked to the uk and suffered the most dreadful abuse, victims of rape, a gay man who was beaten up severely in nigeria who came to the uk is seeking sanctuary, those are some of the people who we re those are some of the people who were detained in immigration centres who previously would not have bent under the old definition of torture. pioneering fingerprint technology that can tell if a suspect has handled or taken drugs, and even what they‘ve eaten, will soon be used in court. researchers from sheffield hallam university and west yorkshire police are piloting a technique which means material from prints up to 30 years old can be broken down and analysed. spencer stokes reports. a crime—fighting method that‘s barely changed over the last century. fingerprints are unique marks of human identity. at crime scenes, they‘re dusted, lifted and sent away to be scanned. but experts at sheffield hallam university are reinventing the process, with fingerprints now being analysed for their chemical composition. chemicals that can show, amongst other things, whether a suspect is a drug user or if they‘ve been drinking. a fingerprint is nothing else than sweat, and sweat is a biological matrix. so the amount of information there, potentially, to be retrieved, is huge. it‘s called "mass spectrometry", with the fingerprints offering an insight into the lifestyle of the suspect at the time a crime was committed. so, as well as gender and foods eaten, the prints can show if drugs have been taken, alcohol consumed, what cosmetics have been used, including different types of hair gel. well, this is only months away from being used on case work. there‘s a lot of scientific work gone on with sheffield hallam university and west yorkshire police. and we‘re going to be convicting people that previously may have got away with it. for decades, fingerprints have helped secure convictions. now, those almost invisible traces left at scenes of crime could be about to offer up more clues than ever before. spencer stokes, bbc news, sheffield. star wars fans can finally get theirfirst look at the trailer for episode viii, the lastjedi. the film, which is out in december, marks the final appearance of the late carrie fisher in her most famous role of princess leia. in a moment the news at one with reeta chakrabarti. first the weather. it has been another day of chasing cloud amounts. i have found a little bit of brightness, since any spells coming in through north wales. the cloud and the brakes have been fairly limited. we have seen some sunshine in eastern scotland, not looking too bad for north wales. fickou cloud to the north—west and the sign of what is to come. it will bring some rain into western scotland. some sunshine coming through northern england, wales and maybe warmth. as you go through the evening the wind will strengthen and we will see more persistent and heavy rain starting to emerge from the far north—west. it‘ll be a cloudy night and with the south—westerly wind it be a mild one, double figures across the country. but this area of low pressure will bring some strong winds, gales on exposed coasts and some of the rain heavy as well for a time. i suspect first thing in the morning, it looks as though the heaviest of the rain across western scotland, northern ireland, north—west england and wales. we could see as much as 100 millimetres of rain falling particularly across parts of north wales. that is worth bearing in mind. that is four inches of rain. it is a west started to your wednesday morning. the cloud and the rain slowly drift its way into the midlands. behind it sunny spells but some of the showers could be somebody. it may well stay dry in the daylight hours. that will eventually drifted way south and east, clearing slowly and behind you will have clear skies and temperatures will away in the north, a touch of light frost possible. on thursday, a drier, quieter, sunny day. the return of wet and windy weather on friday. if you‘ve heard it‘ll be warming to the beacon, we are likely to see 36 degrees in spain. some of that warmth heading to southern england. 22 not out of the question. but not for all. 0nly a0 degrees in scotland. another area of low pressure bringing wet and windy weather to come. defence company bae systems has announced plans to cut almost 2,000 jobs in the uk. thejob losses are in its military and intelligence services, with 750 jobs going in lancashire where the typhoon jet is produced. it is people feeling nervous about their futures and that is what they will be looking to, to find out how it will be dealt with, and hopefully we can mitigate as manyjobs as possible. we‘ll be asking what the government could do to help. also this lunchtime... an audit of different ethnic groups in britain reveals stark inequalities in health, education and criminaljustice. by presenting this unprecedented amount of data in a way that is open and transparent, it allows us to focus on what may be the causations of some of the disparities. the crisis in spain — catalonia‘s president is to address his parliament, amid speculation he could declare independence.

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