Welcome to bbc news. Britain and europe say decisive steps forward have been made, in talks over brexit, but much more work still needs to be done. Speaking after a fourth round of negotiations in brussels, the eus Michel Barnier, and the brexit secretary david davis, agreed there was now more clarity surrounding their discussions, after what was described as a new dynamic, created by theresa mays speech on brexit, in florence last week. Both david davis and the eus main negotiator, Michel Barnier, describe this, the fourth round of negotiations, as vital. An eu summits just three weeks away and britain had wanted the first phase of the negotiations to be completed by then. Thats looking unlikely but mr davis insisted there had now been significant steps forward. When i look across the full ranges of issues to do with our withdrawal from the eu, im clear we have made considerable progress on the issues that matter, including certainty, citizens and visitors, providing reassurance to our eu partners in regards to our mutual and financial obligations and agreeing to some of the key principles in relation to issues arising from Northern Ireland and ireland. Last week, theresa may gave a vital speech in florence about brexit. It was more conciliatory, it included an offer that britain would pay its dues to the European Union, during a two year transition period, that would follow our official departure in 2019 and her words seem to have had an impact. Translation i think that it is positive that theresa mays speech made it possible to unblock the situation, to some extent, and give a new dynamic to the situation but were far from being at a stage, and it will take weeks or maybe even months, where we will be able to say, yes, 0k, there has been sufficient progress on the principles of this orderl withdrawal. The first phase of these brexit talks is all about reaching agreement on three key issues how much in total britain will pay to leave. The rights of eu citizens living here and british citizens in the other 27 states. And then the complex issue of the border between Northern Ireland and the republic. Despite david daviss upbeat assessment, its clear there are still very sharp differences between the two sides and the clock is ticking fast towards our departure date of march, 2019. Richard galpin, bbc news. Chris morris is here. So for the first time, perhaps, some better mood music. The divorce bill, central to everything so far, some movement . A little. But the theresa may speech in florence did, it improved the mood. That is important. She did use the language that the eu wanted to hear. An element of choreography, in particular, honouring the financial commitments when we were a member. But it is not saying all of the commitments and today, david davis made it clear, that they are not prepared to say what they think the commitments are. That is a problem for the European Union, as they feel burned on the issue of money, and david davis wants to move on to the future before deciding exactly how much and by what means we are to pgy much and by what means we are to pay. Michel barnier says, much and by what means we are to pay. Michel barniersays, being frank, and then you pay attention, that there is no credible link between future relationship and the bills that we have to settle in the past there. Is no possible link, he repeated it several times. So we have to find a creative way out of that. The money is around but it is how you present it and break that pa rt how you present it and break that part of the deadlock. Soa part of the deadlock. So a little less nuance, perhaps. Any change of Citizens Rights . Some. David davis talked about progress, there has been some incremental progress but on this issues, this is about peoples real lives, so there was progress on Social Security payments. But there is an element in the room, that is the enforcement of Citizens Rights. Britain has made an offer to right any agreement into uk law, giving it direct effect, in the jarring owned again, Michel Barnier said this was again, Michel Barnier said this was a positive but yes, in the end, the European Union wants the European Court ofjustice to be the ultimate Legal Recourse and the uk is saying that they cannot say that. If there isa that they cannot say that. If there is a 10 year old latvian, when they are going to in 60 years time, to go to the European Court ofjustice, half a century after we have left the eu . That is difficult to accept. And on the third situation, the irish and ireland border . We all know how important it is. We all know how important it is. We all know that there is the good friday agreement that must be protogethered, the common travel area. There is lots of goodwill about how to do it but the problem is, and the uk has a solid argument, is, and the uk has a solid argument, is how to decide on the irish border without talking about the future issue, for example, howian you decide how the border is to work if you dont know the customs arrangements are in place . So that isa arrangements are in place . So that is a reason that mr davis wants to argue to look into the future. He spoke about transition, he said he wa nted spoke about transition, he said he wanted to focus on the future and once Michel Barnier gets a mandate to talk about transition, which he has not, perhaps then they can do that. So there are steps being made in the right direction, now, perhaps at the summit of the 69eu leaders next month, that there can be talk on the transitional period. The hope is that the negotiations will be further tan they are . And the british spatial that we have shown flexibility and you could argue we have made concession but the language is that we have shown flexibility. They would like flexibility. They would like flexibility in response from the eeus side but Michel Barnier has a fairly scripted mandate. It is delivered to him by the leaders of the other 27 countries, so it is difficult for him to step far beyond that. As long as this is the case and the eu is saying we are the ones leave, upsetting the apple cart, that the onus is on us to make the changes, that will be difficult. But at least this week, the negotiation time had fallen off the rails, which a couple of weeks ago, it was more ofa a couple of weeks ago, it was more of a possibility. We can now speak to the labour mp and chair of the Commons Brexit select committee, hilary benn. Hes in our westminster studio. There was a change in the mood, that is important . It is. There is no doubt that the atmosphere was improved by the speech that the Prime Minister gave in florence. But it has not broken the log jam. That is important. Indeed for the future of the negotiations, Michel Barnier, in his comments today, made it clear that he doesnt think that sufficient progress has been made. U nless sufficient progress has been made. Unless and until the negotiationors are able to get on to part two of the talk, which is the future relationship, as chris morris was rightly saying, you will not be able to sort out the problem of Northern Ireland, as how will you end up with a deal that is different between dublin and belfast, as opposed to dover and calais, and crucially, on the question of transitional arrangements, businesses will not know for certain that they are to happen, and secondly, what they will consist it. What the Prime Minister did, belatedly, and a lot of time has been lost because of the election, because the government has been arguing amongst itself about the position it wants to adopt in the position it wants to adopt in the talks, all she has done is to say a is that she would like to ask formerly for transitional arrangement but the European Union has to respond. But the business of the importance of the transitional arrangement, if we dont know what they will consist of and know for sure that they are to happen, then we have to take decisions to protect our businesses against the worth possible outcome, which is no deal. So time is of the essence and as we know the clock goes on ticking. That word, negotiation, looking at what is going on at the moment, there are those that feel that the only side that is compromising is the uk is that the eu has its position and is waiting for the uk to come round to their point of view . I think, in to come round to their point of view . Ithink, in truth to come round to their point of view . I think, in truth that rereflects the situation itself. The uk is the one that has decided to leave, and the eu negotiators, Michel Barnier, the european council, have made it clear it is for us to propose how we suggest that we might deal with this, what kind of future relationship we want, i think one of the difficulties has been a lack of clarity on part of the uk government about what it was vehicling and that has led the european negotiations to say that they are not clear about what we are looking for and time has been wasted in this process, which is of the utmost urgency. In the end it is a political negotiation, i can understand why the British Government is saying a final decision on the money, we would like to keep until we know what they are prepared to offer on the hugely important question of trade and market access, and all of the other questions that remain in peoples minds from the practical ones, will european driving licences be recognised after we leaf, what happens to Health Treatment when we are on holiday in the European Union, and flights, all of these questions must be sorted. The reason why the transitional arrangements we re why the transitional arrangements were so important, that the select Committee Said early on that we will need them, is that it buys us time. And we are running out of time. So the log jam must be broken to get on to pa rt the log jam must be broken to get on to part two of the negotiations. I hope to do that as quickly as possible and the eu negotiationors will show their flexibility to say fairenough, we will show their flexibility to say fair enough, we cannot work on all of the divorce situations, without talking about what some of the others will be. And the European Courts ofjustice and its role, the eu is not going to budge on this, will it . and its role, the eu is not going to budge on this, will it . I dont know. If there is flexibility and will, you can come up with a solution, one thing that the British Government could do is to say as a sovereign country once we have left is we will take if you account of or give due weight to or advise courts that they should take on board decisions of the European Court of justice that have relevance to the rights of the i citizens in the future, the alternative approach, which we may have to have for a lot of these questions, because in any agreement, once negotiated, there will be questions of interpretation and implementation, and i think we will have to establish some kind of hybrid court to involve the European Court ofjustice hybrid court to involve the European Court of justice and hybrid court to involve the European Court ofjustice and our own supreme court, to which all of the matters will be referred. It was a step forward that the government announced that the rights would be enshrined in the legal agreement, which would then be implemented in our court. In the end, it is a philosophical difference rather than a practical one. And if we cant sort out the question of the 1. 2 million brits in the 27 Member States and the 3 million europeans living and working and paying tax here, it does not bode well for the rest of the complex negotiations. Hilary benn, thank you very much for your time this afternoon. There has been a statement from the chief constable for avonen and somerset, following the incident near the m5 where a man was shot by police in marked and Unmarked Police cars, the statement is talking about the difficulties it caused in terms of traffic. But it starts by saying that their thoughts are with the family of the man who died and all of those affected by the incident. They say that a full investigation is under way, which is standard procedure. It goes on to say, that the port by road is still closed, there is a detailed search of the area to ensure that they have ca ptu red area to ensure that they have captured all of the evidence. They are very much aware of the disruption and know of the problem this is causing for the people that live in the local community and their frustrations. They say that their frustrations. They say that their own police and fire staff have been affected by the congestion, the ipc must run its course but they have impressed on them the need to open the road as soon as possible. They are grateful to the local people for their patience and understanding so far. So that is basically apologising to the community for the continued road closures as a result. More on that later on. You are watching bbc news. Ryanair is being threatened with legal action for persistently misleading passengers, about their rights. The move by the uks air regulator follows the cancellation of thousands more flights, affecting travellers through the christmas period, and well into march next year. The Civil Aviation authority says its launched enforcement action, which is a First Step Towards a law suit. Ryanairs problems are due to a shortage of pilots, because of annual leave commitments. Our Business Correspondent theo leggett reports. Ryanair has already annoyed hundreds of thousands of passengers by cancelling their flights. Now the head of the Civil Aviation authority says he is furious with the airline as well. The company he says has been misleading its customers about their rights. Consumers shouldnt have to choose between low cost fares and their legal rights and that at the moment seems to be what ryanair is saying. You can either have cheap fares or your legal entitlement. Under eu law, if yourflight is cancelled your airline is to offer you a seat on another service and if it doesnt have another appropriate service itself, it has to book you with another carrier. It seems ryanair is only offering seats on its own aircraft and for some passengers that isnt appropriate. Since the caa made its complaint, we have been contacted by some passengers. Matthew rice said for example he had been asking specifically for a seat on another carriers service. He said over web chat, you are obligated to re route me. And the response he got was no, i am not. Ryanair insists it complies fully with the law and has reminded its Customer Service agents about passengers right. About passengers right. It says it is talking to the caa. Simon calder thinks that the situation is unprecedented. Simon calder thinks that the situation is unprecedented. For the aviation regulator to reprimand ryanair for misleading the public on an industrial scale is simply unheard of, and i think it is going to do a lot of significant damage to the airline. Ryanair has cancelled 20,000 flights so far, some 700,000 people have been affected and travellers like these people in edinburgh seem increasingly unimpressed. I feel sorry for the people that use ryanair really, and it is really quite bad for them. It will lose a lot of business, that is definite. It isjust crazy, isnt it . How can they be so disorganised . It is ridiculous. They have made a bit of a mess, havent they . A bit of a catastrophe for them. If ryanair doesnt do what the caa is asking, it could face heavy fines but there is also its reputation to think of. The question now is whether low fares can compensate for any damage done to its brand. There is a new dynamic to brexit talks about there is more work to be done. Ryanair and talks about there is more work to be done. 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