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are people who are getting older and going through repossession proceedings from france and being called to a french court and really not being, not having the health. not having the financial means, not having the where with all to deal with it. we will bring you the full exclusive story shortly. hello and welcome to the programme. we're live until 11am. later in the programme we're going to talk about the problems associated with giving birth to big babies. it's happening more and more and not only is it painfulfor us, it can also lead to complications for the child. get in touch this morning if you gave birth to a whopper and send us your big baby pictures. for the purposes of this, we're only interested in babies ten pounds or over. this is my own ten pounds 4 ounce baby. this wasjoe who was born ten years ago — send in your pics — i got into the delivery room at 3.15 andi i got into the delivery room at 3.15 and i said, "are we going to fill president bath?" i thought i was going to have a bath. the male midwife said there was no time and ten minutes later 10lb four ounce joe was born. it really hurt. no one tells you it hurt that badly! use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. theresa may says she is "bitterly disappointed" that the us has opted to impose a tax onjets being made by bombardier, one of northern ireland's biggest employers. rival boeing complained bombardier got unfair state subsidies from the uk and canada, helping it win a major order. unions have warned thousands ofjobs could be under threat. our business editor simonjack reports. jobs at northern ireland's biggest manufacturing employer are under threat as the us government agreed with boeing that bombardier used government subsidies to sell planes to delta airlines at less than it cost to make them. the next phase of the process is to examine the facts and to determine whether or not boeing has been harmed. now, we know boeing didn't participate on the delta order, they abandoned that market years ago, so it's hard to see how there could be any harm. if upheld, sanctions could ultimately include heavy tariffs on planes sold in the us. that could jeopardise the future of a plant that makes a massive contribution to northern ireland's economy. last year it paid £158 million in wages. it accounts for over 8% of all northern ireland's exports and it sources parts and services from 800 companies in the uk and ireland. the whole future of this plant here in belfast is designed around the success of the plane on to which these wings will be attached. so any threat to the c—series plane programme is a direct threat to potentially thousands ofjobs here in belfast. aerospacejobs are precious and political. boeing's complaint has been cheered on by president trump. meanwhile theresa may relies on northern ireland mps for her slender commons majority which helped push the subject up the agenda on her recent trip to canada and the us. this is just round one of this fight. a further ruling is due in february of next year. but this preliminary victory for boeing will cast a shadow over international trade relation and northern ireland's biggest manufacturing plant. it is time for the rest of the morning's news. here is annita. good morning. jeremy corbyn is to tell delegates that the party is ready for government. he will call on conservative ministers to pull themselves together or make way. eleanor garnier reports. problem with sound this is the government in waiting. is this britain's next prime minister? is this the country's next set of senior ministers? # 0h jeremy corbyn.# they clearly think so and they want you to believe it too. in his big speech today, the labour leader will say his party is on the threshold of power. the labour leadership spent this conference trying to show it's a government in waiting. jeremy corbyn is clearly widely adored among party members, but if he really is to become the next prime minister, his big speech will need to appeal far beyond the conference hall to voters right across the country. what doesjeremy corbyn need to do to appeal to voters beyond labour? he needs to continue doing what he's doing to inspire the members of which there are over 500,000 now to go out and do it on his behalf. i would sayjust keep plugging away at the same message. he has come across really well in the country, we got 40% of the vote in the general election. i thinkjeremy has already done a fantasticjob of getting people who are usually not interested in politics actually interested in politics, especially young people and we have seen that happen. so i think a little bit more what he is already doing is going to make us in a much better position come the next general election. the party might be united in its desire to get into government, but it is deeply divided on brexit and questions remain about how labour would pay for some of it's big spending promises. jeremy corbyn will need to find the answers if he's to win over many more voters. apologies for the loss of sound at the beginning of eleanor‘s report. british and irish people who bought into a french property scheme have been left tens of thousands of pounds in debt what's being described as "slow burning catastrophe" by an mep. the leaseback schemes aimed to encourage people to buy properties in tourist areas, then rent them out. many people now say they are trapped in costly contracts with management companies. the taxi company uber is appealing a ruling that its drivers are workers, not self—employed, and are therefore entitled to a range of benefits including paid holidays and the national minimum wage. it comes less than a week after the firm was told its london licence will not be renewed for failing to report serious criminal offences and carry out background checks on drivers. the case being heard today is being seen as critical to the rights of people working in the so called "gig" economy. our legal affairs correspondent clive coleman reports. last year, uber driverjames farrar won a landmark legal case when an employment tribunal ruled that he was a worker and not, as uber had argued, running his own business. i don't control the fare. if i take a different route other than the one i've been given i'll be penalised. i'm performance managed through a rating system, if i hit 4.4 then i'm out on a job. if i hit 4.4 then i'm out of a job. the ruling threatens to hit the operating costs of companies like private hire and delivery firms using people who work on demand and uber has appealed it, claiming it was wrong in law. with over one million people now working in the so—called gig economy, the uber appeal is seen as critical in determining whether they're classified as owning their own small business or as workers who are entitled to rights such as the national minimum wage and paid holidays. but uber is adamant that its drivers are independent contractors and not workers. drivers tell us overwhelmingly they want to be independent contractors. we did a recent poll of all uber partner drivers and 80% told us they would rather be an independent contractor than a worker. james farrar no longer drives for uber, but he's eagerly awaiting the outcome of the day's appeal, which should make the rights of those working in the gig economy a lot clearer. lady lucan, whose husband famously vanished following the murder of the family nanny more than four decades ago, has been found dead at her home in london. she was 80 and police say they aren't treating the death as suspicious. keith doyle has more. lady lucan married into the aristocracy, but when her estranged husband murdered their children's nanny in 1974 and disappeared she was thrust into the global spotlight. born veronica duncan, she married lord lucan in 1963 and they had three children. their marriage ended and amid a bitter custody battle in 1974, lord lucan killed the child ren‘s nanny sandra rivett in the family home which was at the time this property in belg ravia, apparently mistaking her for his wife. he also attacked lady lucan, but she escaped and raised the alarm. he fled and his whereabouts been the subject of frenzied speculation for four decades with reported sightings all around the world. lady lucan said she believed he jumped from a channel ferry soon after the murder. last year, a high courtjudge issued a death certificate allowing their son to inherit the family title, but the mystery as to what happened to lord lucan remains. missiles have hit the kabul airport. the attack came hours after the us defence secretary and nato chief arrived in kabul. afghanistan's interior ministry says there have been no casualties. all flights have been no casualties. all flights have been cancelled. dramatic footage has emerged of an explosion at an ammunition depot in ukraine. the explosion happened at a military base, 160 miles west of the capital kiev. rescue teams are evacuating nearby villages. one person has been injured. twitter has announced it is considering doubling its famous 140—character limit. a small number of users are taking part in a trial allowing longer tweets of up to 280 characters. twitter said it was aiming to address a major cause of frustration for some of its more than 300 million users. the game of thrones stars kit harington and rose leslie have got engaged. the couple met on the show in 2012, where they played on—screen lovers jon snow and ygritte. leslie left the cast two years later while harington has appeared in all seven series of the drama. after much speculation, they announced their engagement in the times newspaper. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. emma has e—mailed. "my baby was born 10lbs after a 36 hour labour by emergency c—section under a general an sthetic in the end as a result of failure to progress. and three failed end do you rememberals. in my case i suffered sepsis, a mass ininfection of the amniotic fluid. i question whether i could have birthed her naturally which would have been my dream. i'm terrified to try for another baby as both my partner and i very tall and on her initial scan they referred me for growth tests because she was so big." that sounds traumatic. they are about to launch a huge study into exa m ples are about to launch a huge study into examples like emma to see what problems it causes for the mum and also for the child. there are potential complications, but big babies are healthy, that's what they say. thank you to kelly who has e—mailed a picture of sebastian born in 2010,10lbs e—mailed a picture of sebastian born in 2010, 10lbs 11 ounces. wow! kelly refers to no pain or trauma, but 10lbs 11 ounces is a big baby. he is deliciously cute. born naturally kelly with only gas and air. thank you. get in touch with us throughout the morning. use the hashtag victoria live. let's get some sport. we get the ashes squad in an hour and controversy whether ben stokes should be in or not? it is less than an hour before the england and wales cricket board will announce their squad for the ashes tourin announce their squad for the ashes tour in australia which normally would be huge excitement around that anyway. you will have the likes of the director of cricket, andrew strauss there, and england head coach trevor bayliss who are insisting that the selection will be picked on form and fitness alone. so you'd like to think that means that ben stokes is expected to be included despite his arrest on suspicion of actual bodily harm. that happened in the early hours of monday morning this week. this followed an ins didn't at a nightclub in bristol. a man was taken to a hospital in bristol with facial injuries. we don't know whether stokes was involved. what we do know is that he was taken into police custody and released without being charged. we know he did stay in bristol for most of yesterday and he has been left out of the england squad for today's fourth 0ne he has been left out of the england squad for today's fourth one day international. how the ecb will decide to investigate the matter internally, that could have an impact on his selection, but at the least, it could have an impact on his vice captaincy. one of the things we are best at is sticking together and working together as a team, and focusing on the cricket, and this incident is no different. there is a little distraction outside the team, and it has the potential to affect the game tomorrow, but not letting that happen is probably something that we can strive to do. the excitement and the talk this morning should be on who is making the squad, but instead the spotlight is on the sport for the spotlight is on the sport for the wrong reasons this morning, victoria. there is a lot of advice for ben stokes from various quarters, i'm sure he will be ignoring all of it. what kind of advice? that's right. we know that he is one of england's greatest all—round cricketers. that does come with a lot of pressure. in fact in world cricket it's his decision making off the field that has — on a number of occasions — worried the ecb. he has a history of disciplinary issues that has thrust the sport into the spotlight for perhaps the wrong reasons. former england captain michael vaughan has a message for his in the telgraph this morning — he wrote: stokes needs to find alternative ways of letting off steam and must become as "streetwise" off the pitch as he is on it. he says, in australia he will be goaded from the moment he arrives. he might have to start reading a few books and stay in a bit to avoid the situations. 0nly he can do it. michael vaughan is not alone in making these comments this morning. another commentator in the papers this morning describing him as a player who "presses the self—destruct button almost as often has he hits sixes". former england captain nasser hussain also spoke out in one of the papers this morning saying please don't throw it away ben — and saying he needs to "grow up". ultimately — if it comes to pure talent — stokes is the man who could tip the balance for england against australia, so selection is likely this morning, but i would say there will be a quiet word in his earfrom the ecb. but we'll be telling you who's in and who's out of the england squad from ten o'clock. thank you. good morning. it is about 17 minutes past nine. this morning, we're going to spend time looking at saudi arabia — as you've no doubt heard the country — which sits in the arabian peninsula between iraq and yemen — has lifted its ban on women driving. it's expected to take affect within 30 days. up until then saudi arabia will remain the only country in the world to forbid women from getting behind the wheel of a car. but whilst many acknowledge that the country is on the cusp of change — if you're a woman there you are still subject to the following rules: saudi law enforces a strict form of sunni islam known as wahhabism which is known for its gender segregation rules. women have to adhere to strict dress codes. they cannot wear clothes which to quote one official "show off their beauty" — and if they do they can face the wrath of religious police. women aren't even allowed to try on clothes in changing rooms in shops. the mere thought of a potentially naked body in a public place being too much. women can not associate with men who aren't related to them — most public buildings have separate entrances, and public beaches are also segregated. in restaurants, women can only sit with men if they are dining with their male relatives, or "families" as that section is known. women are unable to obtain a passport or travel abroad without the consent of either their husband, father or other male relative — the same applies to healthcare. saudi arabia also has a poor human rights record, as you know. freedom expression is curtailed. torture is, in and the death penalty is still in place including for nonviolent crimes. these saudi women talk about oppression in their country. we have been asking saudi women themselves, are women really that oppressed? they asked, as women, are you oppressed? oppressed? they asked, as women, are you oppressed ? we oppressed? they asked, as women, are you oppressed? we have more than 30 women. she is referring to the recent and long—awaited move to allow women the right to vote and ta ke allow women the right to vote and take part in parliamentary elections. so do they have a point? more women apply to university than men. women can work, and in fact have found prominence in different fields. and when it comes to social media, let's just say they are not keeping it quiet. so women in saudi arabia can do many things, and they do. but what often limits the miss the fact that they need a male guardian to do basically anything. iam20 i am 20 years old, and i grew up with a violent father. five years ago, my mother went to court asking for divorce. she fought to keep us with her, but under the male guardianship law, my father won custody. all my mother had wanted to keep us safe and divorce her abusive husband, but the law gave her no justice. clearly when it comes to rights, there are still many battles to fight. however, many women in saudi arabia say labelling is as victims only makes those battles harder to fight. there's a growing campaign in saudi arabia to end that guardianship system which prevents women from doing so many vital tasks without the permission of a man. so will that follow suit? and why is saudi arabia changing now? we are going to speak to various people. dina hamdy, a political analyst who lived in saudi arabia for ten years. in dubai, raha moharrak — she made history last year when she became the first saudi woman to ever climb mount everest. in riyadh, the capital of saudi arabia — doctor salwa nugali — she's a professor of american literatur who previously lived here in the uk. how do you react to this first of all? it is ajoy. it is a how do you react to this first of all? it is a joy. it is a step forward , all? it is a joy. it is a step forward, it is a progress. maybe it took longer than we have hoped for, because it was my generation that was demanding women driving, we struggled and suffered from the transportation issue, getting daily chores in the house and the kids done having to be enslaved to a driver or the men in the house. i thinkjust like education was done for us, the coming generation is going to harvest the production and the progress and what they can do with their lives. i think for the men, too. just imagine if the man had to do everything for the house. now the wife shares that. can i ask you, this ban is going to be lifted within 30 days. will you have to get permission to get a licence from a male relative, or can you just get a licence on your own? you can get a licence on your own? you can get a licence of your own. and what if your husband or father or father—in—law or cousin, male cousin, says, i don't want you to do this? not in my family, no! not in my family, not between my children. we all feel the need for everyone to share the responsibilities around. raha made history share the responsibilities around. ra ha made history last share the responsibilities around. raha made history last year becoming the first saudi woman to climb mount everest. i can see a huge smile on yourface. thank everest. i can see a huge smile on your face. thank you for talking to us. your face. thank you for talking to us. you are clearly delighted. why has it happened now?|j us. you are clearly delighted. why has it happened now? i think they have realised that it is about time. this completely mobilised the working women, the mothers, teachers. it is a no—brainer. it took longer than we all expected, but i honestly was surprised. i never imagined in the same year we would have a mountain climber, a film director, the same generation, women in the olympics, it isjust, the sky is the limit from here, and lam super the sky is the limit from here, and i am super happy, and even though a lot of people were criticising, this isa lot of people were criticising, this is a big win for us. it might not be the solution for all the problems, but it is a start, it is a big start, because once you empower women, more things to come. gina, is this about economics, then? we have seen this about economics, then? we have seen the oil price reduced dramatically, saudi arabia relies very much on the income for that. is this an economic necessity, wanting to use the skills of the whole of the population? 0r to use the skills of the whole of the population? or is this actually a really big cultural shift now?|j a really big cultural shift now?” would agree with you that it is economic, but it is also more importantly political. 30% of women are unemployed in saudi arabia, this isa are unemployed in saudi arabia, this is a huge shift in cultural norms in the country, but more importantly, it comes at a critically political time to saudi arabia. it is one of the main embargo is in the gulf crisis. it has been involved for three years in the yemen war, created one of the worst humanitarian crises in the region so far, so the kingdom does need positive stories, it needs more favourable images to be in the limelight in the upcoming period, especially in western media, and i think this is a fantastic move in that direction. it has long been on the human rights and civil rights agenda, and criticisms against the kingdom, as you have pointed out earlier. whether it is a cultural shift, i would argue that it breaks some of the taboos, definitely, but in the long—term, having lived there for ten years myself, what we really needis for ten years myself, what we really need is a cultural shift in the mentality of how men think of women, how society views women in the culture, and that will take a long time, longer than they will start driving. and ijust wanted to add that you said it will come into effect in 30 days, my understanding is that the committee held a sponsor for producing the recommendations for producing the recommendations for designing the law will finish its work in 30 days, and the law will come into effect nextjune, june 2018. thank you for clarifying that. what rules are you going to campaign against next, then? there are various other restrictions that you are subject to. what is next for you? i think women who are working, working on giving women a bit more freedom on issuing a passport, travel documents. other issues touching women's lives, we hear so many. all the important ones will be eliminated first, because we will a lwa ys eliminated first, because we will always have new issues, but the ones that were going on for a very long time will have to be dealt with first. women have to be able to do the obvious. it is obvious taking ca re of the obvious. it is obvious taking care of the children and being able to travel with them and being able to travel with them and being able to travel with them and being able to travel herself as an adult. then things will come according to priority. society demands for they need to make their life easier, to make it work. you want to make it work, you want a productive society, you cannot tie them up and expect them to produce. a last thought, statement from the british prime ministers theresa may says as a long—standing friend of saudi arabia i welcome the kingdom taking this important step towards gender equality. the parameter women around the world is not only an issue i ca re the world is not only an issue i care deeply around the world, it is key to a nation's economic development. the uk will continue to work in close partnership with saudi arabia as it builds on this progress and carries on its programme of reform. the government has been criticised for its links with saudi arabia while at the same time oppressing women there. but theresa may 0basi saying this is a start?m isa may 0basi saying this is a start?m is a start. we have to acknowledge that whether it is a pr stunt or comes at a politically critical time for the kingdom, it comes at a politically critical time forthe kingdom, it is comes at a politically critical time for the kingdom, it is very popular, it isa for the kingdom, it is very popular, it is a huge start and breaks a lot of the taboos. since prince mohammed bill bin salman, he has for example in february appointed the first female head of the stock exchange, unprecedented in the region, and i would say in many western countries, so we would say in many western countries, so we have to acknowledge that steps are being taken. in april he curbed the powers of the religious police. this is a huge step, because as you might know, the linchpin of the house is based on the support of the clergy, the religious establishment, so clergy, the religious establishment, so for him to break these taboos and fly in the face of the cultural norms and what the kingdom has historically been able to accept or not is phenomenal. we shouldn't lose sight of that. it is a great start, but it needs to be a beginning, not the end of reformation. ok, thank you all very much. we heard from two people. she made history last year becoming the first saudi woman to climb everest. thank you for your time. still to come: "a slow burning catastrophe" — how one mep has described a french property scheme which has left british and irish people thousands of pounds in debt. and uber begins an appeal over its drivers‘ employment rights. time for the latest news, here's annita. theresa may says she is "bitterly disappointed" that the us has opted to impose a tax onjets being made by bombardier, one of northern ireland's biggest employers. the prime minister said the uk would work with bombardier to protect "vital" jobs after the us department of commerce proposed a 220% import tariff. rival boeing complained bombardier got unfair state subsidies from the uk and canada, helping it win a major order. jeremy corbyn will close the labour conference in brighton this lunchtime, by telling delegates that the party is on the "threshold of power" and is ready for government. he will say labour's performance in june's general election "put the tories on notice", adding that the government's handling of the brexit negotiations are not in the national interest. the victoria derbyshire programme has been told that british and irish people who bought into a french property scheme have been left tens of thousands of pounds in debt by what's being described as a "slow burning catastrophe" by an mep. the leaseback schemes aimed to encourage people to buy properties in tourist areas, then rent them out. many people now say they are trapped in costly contracts with management companies. the taxi company uber is appealing a ruling that its drivers are workers, not self—employed, and are therefore entitled to a range of benefits including paid holidays and the national minimum wage. it comes less than a week after the firm was told its london licence will not be renewed for failing to report serious criminal offences and carry out background checks on drivers. the case being heard today is being seen as critical to the rights of people working in the so called gig economy. uber argued that it was a technology firm, not a transport business, and that its drivers were self—employed contractors. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. we are on the hunt to fin the biggest ever baby born in britain. we will talk about big babies and the complications that can be caused for the mum and the child. there are good points to having a big baby, of course, you know that. my first baby was 11lbs 2. he is now 48 and 62"! it was a tough delivery. he looked like he had been in a fight, but he was ok. sarah on facebook, "i gave birth to my first child thelbs and three years my son tipped the scales at 11lbs 1 ounce." a high court in judge approved a £37 million compensation plan for hundreds of women who were victims of the disgraced breast surgeon, ian patterson. so compensation plan approved. it is worth £37 million to the hundreds of women who were the victims of ian patterson who effectively carried out surgery on women. in some instances when it was totally unnecessary. a high court has just approved that compensation plan. £37 million for the hundreds of victims of ian patterson. there he is. disgraced, breast surgeon. the sport and holly is back. we'll find out within the next hour england's squad for the winter ashes tour of australia. ben stokes is expected to be included, despite being arrested on suspicion of causing actual bodily harm, following an incident in bristol in the early hours of monday morning. harry kane said it was "a very proud night" for him, as he scored a hat trick at cypriot side apoel nicosia to make it two wins in two for spurs in the champions league. that's 11 goals for kane so far this month. manchester city also won against shakhtar donetsk. but it was a frustrating evening's work for liverpool, who were held to a 1—1 draw at spartak moscow. filip coutinho scored their only goal to leave them with only two points from their first two group games. and six—time olympic champion jason kenny has revealed he secretly retired after rio 2016, but has now reversed the decision. he says taking a year off and becoming a father has "breathed new life" into him. he now aims to overtake sir chris hoy and win a seventh olympic gold medal in tokyo in 2020. i'll be back with more on all those stories, and hopefully the england ashes squad news, just after 10am. we look forward to that. will ben stokes be in it? they were living dream — buying a second home, in some cases, a retirement home in france. but this programme has learned that many british and irish people who bought into a french property scheme have been left tens of thousands of pounds out of pocket in what's being described as "slow burning catastrophe" by one mep. french leaseback schemes were heavily marketed in this country in the middle of the last decade as a way for someone on a budget to afford a dream holiday home. investors were offered a reduction in tax and a guaranteed income if they agreed to sign up with a management company that let the properties to tourists. but many people haven't received the money they were promised, and have had to pay tens of thousands of pounds to get out of the contracts. some people have ended up so deeply in debt that they've lost their holiday home entriely. james melley has this exclusive report. buying a property is often seen as a good place to put your money. but buying abroad can be more risky. there have been high—profile time share scams. and problems with people buying property in spain. in the last decade, thousands of people were sold the chance of a dream home in france, with guaranteed rental income, thanks to a thing called the french leaseback scheme, but now many of these people are facing bills for tens of thousands of pounds, and the possibility of having to walk away from the property all together. this is a slow burning catastrophe for many of the people who have invested. we just feel helpless with it, that there's nowhere else to go with it. we do not have 22,000 euros. leaseback schemes in france were set—up so that it would increase investment in tourist areas, by offering tax breaks to people who bought properties and then let them out to visitors. this is how they work. the investor — often in britain or ireland — buys a new home in a french tourist destination. a management company will take over the letting of the property, seemingly guaranteeing a rental income for the owner. these contracts last for at least nine years, but often in that time, the management companies have gone bust and new ones have taken over, sometimes offering a worse service and lower rents. if the owners try and cancel the arrangements at the end of the contract, the management companies demand compensation. this is often for tens of thousands of pounds, which many owners can't afford. sue bought a property near a ski resort, so she could have cheap holidays with her family. she took out a mortgage and was told the rental income would cover this. we were really excited about it. we thought we could use it as we got older, we could use it in the summer as well, you know, probably when we stopped skiing it would be something that we could use for a long time. pauline and her husband mick bought a property near a beach, where they used to go camping with their children when they were young. they could afford to buy because of money she received when her parents died. we made sure when we were buying the villa that we had crossed every t and dotted every i. we had gone through the contract, not only with the notaire, but we had gone independently to another lawyer that dealt with french law, up in birmingham. they said no, that the contract was a good contract, and that we should have no concerns about signing it. so we did. but for both families it didn't take long for things to start go wrong. i think the first management company went bust within a year of us taking it on. then, i think, we had no income for about a year from it. and then the new management company came in, and we had a reduced rent, and then it was — we had sporadic payments. sometimes we got it, sometimes we didn't. even though the apartment was booked all the time. it was a busy place. the truth of it was it wasn't covering the costs. mick's a technician, i was a secretary, we weren't high earners, so we were always having to scrimp and scrape to refund, to put money down to france, which, you know, we shouldn't have had to do. it should have been able to stand on its own two feet. as a result, both women asked to end their management contracts after nine years. but both were then hit with huge bills. well, obviously we've had to find money to pay lawyers and mortgages, and, you know, we've not had money to spend on other things, or we've had to use savings, you know, that were for our future, really, not to keep topping this up. but you just can't keep paying that indefinitely. at some point, we are going to have to make a decision and say, ok, you know, we can't do this any more. they've sent us a letter, stating that we owe them, if we want to finish our contract, we have to pay in the region of 22,000 euros. it doesn't make sense, but that's how they have viewed it. 22,000 euros. it's a lot of money, so — we do not have 22,000 euros. pauline and sue are not alone. whilst there are no official figures, it's estimated there are several thousand people in the uk and ireland that have had problems with french leaseback schemes. people have done their best to pay these mortgages. jenny, who is based in dublin, set up a petition, calling for greater protection for consumers. so i started the petition in order to try and organise owners and share information, and see how many people were affected. because a lot of people are very isolated, it's fragmented, and it became quite clear that this, this pattern of behaviour by certain developers and operators in france was replicated across france, across these residences de tourisme. there are a lot of terrible stories. there are people who are in arrears, there are people who are, you know, getting older and being — going through repossession proceedings in france and being called to a french court, and really not being in — not having the health, the financial mean, not having the wherewithal to deal with it. jenny approached an irish mep for help, and the irish consumer protection body is now investigating french leaseback schemes. i kept thinking there must be some way around this, there must be some law that will protect us. but there are eu laws, which the french are completely ignoring, but it still is — you still have to take legal action, so it's very expensive. it's prohibitive. so there may be law, but it's very hard to access that law. so what chance do people have of getting out of these schemes? well, i've come to see an expert in french property law to find out. it is possible, there's various ways to get out. it really depends on the contract, but it is always extremely long and painful and costly to evidence all this. have you come across cases where people have successfully managed to get out of their management agreements? i've seen, following a management company folding, the possibility — there was a possibility open by the government to set up your own management company. so some co—owners have gathered and tried to do that themselves. from what i've seen, it seemed to be successful. liberating for some. but it's a heavy price on time, so it's not for the faint—hearted. would you, if a client came do you and said, "help me buy this leaseback property", what would you say? no. it's quite easy to design a contract... british conservative mep daniel dalton has been contacted by people who say they are struggling financially because of these schemes. someone actually had to sell their house in the uk. many people have bought these houses as investments, they have been marketed to them as risk free investments, they are certainly not risk free investments. some people have had to sell their houses, other people have had to delay retirement or divert income they would have done for something else into this. the problem is, they can't get out of the scheme. i think that's the real problem. once many people realise that actually these contracts are not what they should be, they can't get out of them without triggering this 30,000 euro fee, in many cases, to end the contract. this is a slow burning catastrophe for many of the people who have invested. i think there is a case that some of these contracts could be illegal under eu law, particularly under the mis—selling of properties. i think someone needs to take action. first of all the european commission needs to look at this, and secondly, this probably needs to be tested in the courts. the third thing is to make sure that the uk authorities are liaising with the french authorities, and that hasn't happened up to recently. i recently wrote to the competition and markets authority in the uk, asking them to do this. they have now contacted their french counterparts. the commission have also contacted their french counterparts. so we're hoping that that will start moving the process forward. do you have any hope this could be resolved? if people can take this particularly to the european court, if the commission can get involved, then there might be a case for people to be able to get some of that money back, but i think that we're a long way away from that at this stage and i wouldn't certainly want to say there is hope for people in that situation yet. and it could become even more difficult after britain leaves the eu. french leaseback deals are still available online now, and we have been told there are many well managed schemes. but sue and pauline are among many people taking legal action. for them, the dream of a cheap holiday home has turned into an expensive nightmare. in around an hour's time we'll hear more from some of those affected. coming up, according to new research, more and more women are giving birth to big babies— like my own sonjoe who was born ten get in touch and send us photos of your big babies — we want to see those who are 10lb and over. this baby girl looks like she is storing food in her cheeks for the winter! she is delicious. that is exactly what my son looked like. and then there is this picture from tina and her 11lb baby. then there is this picture from tina and her11lb baby. 0h, a bigger pardon, but was tina. thank you for those. keep sending those in with your own experiences. and this one, i thought my first baby, ninelb 14 ounces,, i thought my first baby, ninelb 14 ounces, , and then i thought my first baby, ninelb 14 ounces,, and then my third, 11lb, he is six foot for now. another contributor says, the birth was agony, we are thankful they manage to get my big baby out safely after 30 hours of labour, i was given 20 minutes to get him out after the theatre was being prepared for an emergencies as aryan section, and i'm so glad we have boys who want to go through labour. —— a caesarean section. uber will begin an appeal shortly over the employment rights of its drivers. last year, two of them successfully argued they should be seen as "workers" and entitled to the national living wage and holiday pay. we first broke the news of uber drivers planning to take the company to court back in 2015. here's a clip from jim reed's original report. james farrar has been an uber driverfor almost a year. like all the others, he's self—employed. now he's part of a group taking legal action against the company in what could be a landmark case. the flexibility is really great. you know, you can switch on the app and work whenever you want. you can stop whenever you want and go home. the only problem is that if you're not working you're not earning, and the earnings are so much lower than i expected, and it's really started to bite now. and you're noticing it change, are you? is it more difficult to make money now, in your mind, than it was six months ago? most definitely, most definitely. the effect is that, look, you know, there is a certain amount of money you need to earn each day and you just have to stay out longer and longer until you earn it. and of course last week transport for london controversially decided not to renew uber‘s license to operate in the capital — a decision which was not related to this morning's case. tfl said last week uber was not a "fit and proper" private car—hire operator — listing four main areas of concern, including its approach to reporting criminal offences and carrying out background checks on drivers. uber‘s chief executive has since apologised for the taxi app's mistakes in london and promised to change. london mayor sadiq khan has accused them of behaving in an "aggressive" manner. this is what he told us last year about uber when our political guru norman smith interviewed him in the back of a black cab. what are you, an uber man or a black cab man? i'm both an uber and a black cab man. do you go along with some of the ideas to curb uber, for example, forcing them to wait five minutes? specifically with uber, there is a view among black cabbies they have an unfair advantage. so do you think, if you were mayor, you would look to do something to curb the advantages that uber have? i'm not sure if waiting for five minutes works. the important thing is to make sure we level the playing field, so, for example, just think about what you know you have to go through as a black cab driver before you can drive a black cab, you know? the vehicles are so expensive, they are all disabled friendly, the criminal check, the knowledge you have do. rather than levelling down your high standards, let's level up the private hire vehicles standards. so for example, basic knowledge, speaking english, doing the security checks. so what next for uber? we can speak now to james farrer, one of the uber drivers who brought the employment tribunal case — and who you saw briefly injim's film; emma — who is an uber driver here in london, as well as charlie edmunds and mille sansoye — who both use the app, expressing a major concern. james comey you want the tribunal last year. how worried about are you about the appeal? i'm not worried at all. in 2014, ubertold about the appeal? i'm not worried at all. in 2014, uber told the london assembly it was a different minicab organisation, that it was a happy, shiny, sharing economy type of operator, and that the rest of the industry was brutally exploitative, andi industry was brutally exploitative, and i understand the argument today they are making is that they are just like the rest of the trade, so i guess they are acknowledging finally that they are brutally exploitative. so we are here to get the law enforced. it is a shame that we have to do it rather than the government doing it. it is more time than people can afford. emma, you area than people can afford. emma, you are a fellow uber driver. what do you say to james? i am disappointed that people are fighting for the right to have sick pay and holiday p5y~ right to have sick pay and holiday pay. i really enjoyed along with my other female uber drivers, we enjoy the flexibility. it gives much more opportunity to women to drive, and there is a big campaign to get as many women drivers on uber as possible. yes, i enjoy being self—employed. i wouldn't have been able to help out at grenfell all these weeks had i not been with flexible working conditions. i am not an employee, i and blood flexible working conditions. lam not an employee, land blood person who chooses to use the uber platform. james, what do you say to that? we are not fighting for that, we are asking the court to look at the situation as it is, and they have concluded that lawfully we have working rights. iam have concluded that lawfully we have working rights. i am fighting for the law to be enforced as it is. it isa the law to be enforced as it is. it is a false choice. we are entitled to have both flexible at it and fairness. i don't accept that there isa fairness. i don't accept that there is a choice between the two. and we are not asking to be employees, we are not asking to be employees, we are self—employed, but we are vulnerable to exploitation and we are entitled to the minimum wage and holiday pay and protection. it is so important to follow earners, because if you can't afford to stop working, that becomes a real tragedy personally, but also it becomes a safety risk because drivers are working up to 100 hours a week. emma is shaking her head, james.” working up to 100 hours a week. emma is shaking her head, james. i earn quite well, to be honest. i is shaking her head, james. i earn quite well, to be honest. ldon't work stupid hours. i take a break after two or three trips to stretch my legs. i after two or three trips to stretch my legs. lam very sensible about it, because i have a responsibility to take care of the safety of my passengers. would you want sick pay if you were ill? i have never had sick pay as a self—employed person. ifi sick pay as a self—employed person. if i need to take a day off, i will ta ke if i need to take a day off, i will take a day off. let me bring in charlie and millie. charlie, are you happy to take uber cars even though they are not working under transport for london regulations? up until this weekend, i thought they were. and i was very happy to take them. i think that uber have an opportunity now to step up, the ceo has apologised the mistakes they have made without elaborating on what those were. the metropolitan police wrote to tfl earlier this year about a number of alleged offences committed by uber drivers, one involved allegedly pulling a gun, two were alleged sexual assaults which are coming to court in the future, and uberdid which are coming to court in the future, and uber did not inform the police about them, and that is the issue. i absolutely think that uber should go by the same regulations as any other taxi firm, and they have any other taxi firm, and they have an opportunity to step up and not just comply with the minimum requirements, but say, ok, here is our policy, this is the training we are giving our drivers on how to behave and how to treat women, not just don't assault people, nobody needs to be told that, but make sure that your users are comfortable. what about yourself, millie, as an uber user? i actually, one of the usp rumack family, i have all of the driver's details on my phone, and after my trip, i have gotten actual map detailing which route was taken, etc, so if that does happen, i have absolutely every detail, whereas with black cabs, you don't have the same accountability. i have all the formation i need if something bad was to happen to go to the police and file a complaint. but it would be better if something bad didn't happen, and that is another of tfl's issues, they say uber are not doing the proper background checks on their drivers. i have never had a problem with an uber driver that i have been with. emma wants to come in here. this background check, i have had background checks, enhanced background checks for other work i have done, for all my working life, as long as they have been, crb then dvs, i had as long as they have been, crb then dv5, 1 had enhanced dvs check dunwich tfl accepted, and then i had a letter saying i had to have it done again using their people which they didn't have in place initially. sol they didn't have in place initially. so i have followed every rule. you have, but uber haven't, according to tfl? i don't know what the rules are that they haven't followed, 1 really don't. does it worry you that they didn't report these drivers and their alleged sexual assaults? that is not my experience of uber. i'm sure it's not, but this is what the metropolitan police are saying. what i don't metropolitan police are saying. what ldon't understand is there is also data that has come say that uber have followed, they have had ten compliance checks by tfl right up until this last april that they passed, and then suddenly there is all these other issues that haven't been checked. i all these other issues that haven't been checked. ldon't understand, why have tfl not continue to do those checks? because up until april, they had passed all the compliance checks. james, do you wa nt to compliance checks. james, do you want to come back in here?” compliance checks. james, do you want to come back in here? i have to agree with millie. the background checks other certification, and if there is a problem there, that is transport for london's problem. drivers get those certifications as a prerequisite forgetting a license from tfl before they can work for uber. if there is a failure in that process , uber. if there is a failure in that process, it is down to transport for london. last year they doubled the number of minicab drivers, so i think the wheels have fallen off. on the sex attacks, this is a tragedy. we have asked to engage with the metropolitan police on that for over a year, and they have declined to do so, so it is a tragedy but we also have 50% of minicab drivers are attacked on thejob, i was have 50% of minicab drivers are attacked on the job, i was attacked on thejob, attacked on the job, i was attacked on the job, and attacked on the job, i was attacked on thejob, and uber were ten attacked on the job, i was attacked on the job, and uber were ten weeks before they would operate with the police to identify my attacker, so we have some form there, i think. thank you very much to all of you for coming on the programme. news and sport in a moment, but first here is the weather with simon. one scene such as this in hampshire, looking towards portsmouth there the tower shrouded. but for many of us, there will be brighter spells developing, but it is in the west that we are seeing some rain moving in. the rain is edging its way into cornwall from pembrokeshire as well, but the further east you are, the drier it will stay. and certainly there will be some brighter skies developing, after the mist and fog on the low cloud tends to break up, it will feel pleasant over eastern areas. the rain gradually moving its way further eastward. let's look at things at four o'clock this afternoon. much of the midlands and the east staying dry, the sunshine feeling quite warm. it will stay wet across the south—west and wales and northern ireland and the isle of man. but for much of the north, it should still be dry with a few bright spells on some brighter skies across scotland. the best will be the far north, feeling quite pleasant, temperatures 16 or 17 celsius. tonight the rain continues to move towards the east, heavy for many of us overnight tonight, it could be chilly competitor last night, temperatures ten or 11 celsius. through thursday, a disappointing start along eastern areas, low cloud and drizzle which will mostly clear away, remaining wet and windy into the afternoon. they will be cloud towards the south and east, but for many, thursday looks like a dry day with some sunshine, and again feeling good for the end of september. going into friday, this area of low pressure is quite deep, strengthening winds towards northern and western areas, associated weather front moving its way in, so during friday, the rain will spread eastwards and it will be quite heavy at times, blustery conditions around northern and western areas, and it will be drier and brighter towards the west, with sunny spells as well. into the weekend, saturday looking like it will be dry with some sunny spells. sunday wet and windy. hello. it's wednesday. it's10am. i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story today, one of northern ireland's biggest employers, the aerospace company, bombardier is facing huge taxes on its exports to the us. the decision threatens the jobs of 4,000 people in northern ireland. labour say they are on the cusp of power, three months after they lost the general election. jeremy corbyn is guaranteed a hero's welcome when he takes to the conference platform. maybe even cha nts conference platform. maybe even chants of, "oh jeremy conference platform. maybe even chants of, "ohjeremy corbyn." but can he convince voters out there that labour is ready for government? brits who bought their dream second home in france through a french property scheme are facing bills of tens of thousands of pounds. there are calls for an investigation into whether the scheme broke eu law. if we want to finish our contract we have to pay in the region of 22,000 euros. good morning. here's annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. good morning. theresa may says she is "bitterly disappointed" that the us has opted to impose a tax onjets being made by bombardier, one of northern ireland's biggest employers. the prime minister said the uk would work with bombardier to protect "vital" jobs after the us department of commerce proposed a 220% import tariff. rival boeing complained bombardier got unfair state subsidies from the uk and canada, helping it win a major order. jeremy corbyn will close the labour conference in brighton this lunchtime, by telling delegates that the party is on the "threshold of power" and is ready for government. he will say labour's performance in june's general election "put the tories on notice", adding that the government's handling of the brexit negotiations are not in the national interest. the victoria derbyshire programme has been told that british and irish people who bought into a french property scheme have been left tens of thousands of pounds in debt by what's being described as a "slow burning catastrophe" by an mep. the leaseback schemes aimed to encourage people to buy properties in tourist areas, then rent them out. many people now say they are trapped in costly contracts with management companies. a high courtjudge has approved a £37 million compensation plan for hundreds of victims of disgraced breast surgeon ian paterson. paterson, who carried out unnecessary breast operations, was convicted of 17 counts of wounding with intent and three counts of unlawful wounding against ten private patients. he was originallyjailed for 15 years, but that term was increased to 20 years by court of appeal judges in august. the taxi company uber is appealing a ruling that its drivers are workers, not self—employed, and are therefore entitled to a range of benefits including paid holidays and the national minimum wage. it comes less than a week after the firm was told its london licence will not be renewed for failing to report serious criminal offences and carry out background checks on drivers. the case being heard today is being seen as critical to the rights of people working in the so—called gig economy. james is a former uber driver and one of those brought the case. we are here to get the law enforced. it isa are here to get the law enforced. it is a shame the government isn't doing it. we have got a rock solid. my doing it. we have got a rock solid. my only frustration is we can't get access to our rights while uber exhausts the appeal and it is more time than people can afford. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30am. thank you very much. we will talk about big babies and the problems that can be associated with giving birth to a large baby. rosemary says gregory was born 24 years ago after 11lbs and five ounces and this baby was two foot long. i will show it to you later. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here's some sport now with holly. ben stokes has been included in a 16—man squad for the winter ashes tour to australia. three uncapped players have been named in the line up. 24—year—old surrey wicketkeeper ben foakes will feature for the first time alongside somerset fast bowler craig overton. meanwhile, hampshire top order batsmanjames vince returns to the squad for the first time since august 2016 and will be looking to add to his seven caps. the inclusion of ben stokes comes despite his arrest on suspicion of causing actual bodily harm on monday morning. the all—rounder was ta ken into police custody following an incident at a bristol night club just hours after england's win over west indies in the third one—day international. he was later released without charge. england have included 18—year—old spinner sophie ecclestone in their squad for the women's ashes which begins next month. she replaces beth langston in the only change from the side that won the world cup. heather knight will be leading england in an ashes series for the first time. it isa it is a tough place to tour in terms of every aussie reminds you that the hole country is against you and it isa hole country is against you and it is a hot place to play, but it is also a brilliant place to play. it isa also a brilliant place to play. it is a really brilliant place to play cricket and really encouraging the girls to embrace the tour and the challenges that come with it. harry kane said it was "a very proud night" as his hat trick against cypriot side apoel nicosia made it two wins in two for tottenham in the champions league. after failing to score throughout august, kane has more than made up for it this month, netting 11 goals so far, five of them for spurs in europe. liverpool managerjurgen klopp said his side needed to be more clinical after they could only draw 1—1 at spartak moscow. liverpool were the better side but went behind, before filip coutinho equalised. that's two draws from their first two games. kevin de bruyne scored a terrific goal for manchester city in their 2—0 win at home to shakhtar donetsk — that leaves them on maxiumum points. tonight chelsea, manchester united and celtic are all in action. we have the full list of who will appear in the ashes tour. jonathan agnew is going to talk to us on that now. we know there is a place for ben stokes and two uncapped players as well. what do you think of the squad? full of gambles, not least ben stokes. nobody knows what's going to happen with that and if ben stokes going to happen with that and if ben sto kes d oes going to happen with that and if ben stokes does go on the tour, he isn't due to return to the uk until april, 4th. it is a hugely long tour this. soi 4th. it is a hugely long tour this. so i think there could be something that happens in the meantime, but what england have done is taken a series of gambles. james vince averaged only 19. he didn't score a single 50. he is due to bat at number three. gary ballance and the pressure on alastair cook and joe root will be immense. we will have more on that announcement and more reaction throughout the day. that's all from me. i will be back after 10.30am with more. labour may have lost the general election only three months ago, butjeremy corbyn will say in a speech later today that his party is ready for government. our political guru norman smith is at the labour party conference in brighton. people are piling into today, bear in mind thatjeremy corbyn doesn't actually get to his feet until 12.30. it is 10.10am and they are already piling in. that captures the mood of the conference. i have been to far too many labour concernses and they are stilted and this has a different mood to it. very, very upbeat and surprising given that labour was, of course, defeated in the general election. now, i've got two delegates here who have arrived early to get their places forjeremy corbyn's speech, joseph joined the labour party back in 2010, you have been to every single labour conference since then. nadine joined in 2015 because you wanted to vote forjeremy corbyn and you have a conference virgin in that sense. let me start with you nadine, what is it aboutjeremy me start with you nadine, what is it about jeremy corbyn that me start with you nadine, what is it aboutjeremy corbyn that a, brought you in, but b, seems to have generated this mood in the party? the thing that inspired me most aboutjeremy the thing that inspired me most about jeremy corbyn was the message of hope he had to offer. i hadn't heard a politician up until that point say any of the things that he said, that things can be done differently, that we can have a better country that works for everybody and l better country that works for everybody and i felt i had to take that opportunity. it may not come around again to vote for him and do everything i could, to help him get that message across to as many people as possible. joseph i said you had been in the labour party since 2010, so you have lived under other leaders. how have things change?ed things have changed because the previous leaders didn't go with the grass—roots, but jeremy corbyn is there for everyone, for the grass—roots. he cares for everyone. look at the conference, the previous conferences, they allow few members to talk in the co nfe re nce few members to talk in the conference hall, but this 2017 co nfe re nce conference hall, but this 2017 conference under jeremy corbyn leadership, trust me, they allow more members, especially the grass—roots to talk. that's why! like jeremy corbyn. that's been a big thing which mr corbyn talked about, trying to give more power to ordinary members. expectation are so high, the sort of personality cult amount around jeremy corbyn is so high, i amount around jeremy corbyn is so high, i hate to say it, there is a sense that inevitably he's going to disappoint. well, he hasn't disappointed so far, that's for sure. the expectations have been there all the way along. he has continued to inspire people. i think he has gone from strength to strength and l he has gone from strength to strength and i can't see that stopping. the more people they speaks to, the more people who hear what he has to say, i think that will strengthen his position and l think he has had a lot more to offer. we haven't seen the half of it yet. joseph, there is an argument that says 0k, mr corbyn has done incredibly well, but he has got to reach out now to people who maybe don't share your views, who maybe older voters, has mr corbyn got to change, to modify his message? no, we will stick to the same programme so we will stick to the same programme so that we can win votes from everybody because the programme has more like renationalising the railways and giving more hopes for the children and the elders, winter fuel. so will be good for the old people, yes. nadine there is an argument that says that it is a bubble here and that you guys are terribly excited, but actually out there, the real world hasn't changed very much, a lot of people worried about the sort of borrowing that might come with a jeremy corbyn government and worried about the sort of taxes they might pay? well, the message is getting across that it will be a small percentage of people who will behaving to pay. the people who will behaving to pay. the people who will behaving to pay. the people who have the most, are very small. most people won't have to pay more taxes. that message has been strong throughout jeremy corbyn's campaign and! strong throughout jeremy corbyn's campaign and i think that's getting through. jeremy corbyn is one politician who steps out of the bubble. his campaign has been moving through hundreds and hundreds of areas of the country over the past few months. he is continuing to campaign and the more people he speaks to, in person, at his rallies, confirm that he can get that message across to people. he is not a politician who lives in the bubble of parliament. joseph, when we look at the last election, yes, jeremy corbyn did much better than everyone expected, but at the same time you lost again, the third election in a row and if you look at the numbers, you didn't do much better than 2010. so there isa do much better than 2010. so there is a danger, isn't there, that you get carried away and think you're on the cusp of power. in the harsh world of numbers, you haven't moved much further forward than 2010? yes, i think, you carried the same programme along and then persuaded the voters to vote for labour under the voters to vote for labour under the leadership of jeremy the voters to vote for labour under the leadership ofjeremy corbyn. look, the election, nobody won the election. it was a hung parliament. we won seats. the conservatives thought they would beat labour in a landslide, but they couldn't. with good policies and a good manifesto, we did well in the previous election. guys, thank you very much indeed for your time. standing alongside us is shami chakrabarti, a key ally ofjeremy corbyn. what is it we should expect from him today in his speech? i think we will see the broad vision. i know you have been talking a lot about jeremy himself, that he would be the first to say that he is a team player. the manifesto was the star of the campaign. he is our leader but he has brought up behind him a team of shadow cabinet members who have been setting out specific policies, padding at the manifesto with more detail, but today from the leader the broader vision of the kind of country that we want to live in, and the kind of world that we want to build, and! the kind of world that we want to build, and i think that is probably what we are going to hear this morning. isn't there a need for a reality check in that you lost the last election, you haven't moved much further forward than 2010, you have a huge, huge mountain to climb? we don't have a huge mountain to climb. one more heave. you really think it is one more heave? it is a big one. norman, you have been giving me reality checks on the day i met you, and you are quite right. feet firmly on the ground, but we have our eyes on the prize, and this co nfe re nce have our eyes on the prize, and this conference hasjust have our eyes on the prize, and this conference has just been have our eyes on the prize, and this conference hasjust been amazing. it is the most positive political co nfe re nce is the most positive political conference i have ever been to, and l have been to a lot of conferences, as you have, different parties. when this party is united around a broad vision for a more equal britain and world, we can do amazing things. we have had the biggest reversal of fortune since 1945. we are not in numberio yet, but fortune since 1945. we are not in number 10 yet, but franklyjeremy corbyn is looking more like a prime minister than theresa may right now, and asa minister than theresa may right now, and as a feminist l minister than theresa may right now, and as a feminist i don't like to have to say that, but it is a reality. we will see a very different conference when you have to trot off to manchester in a few days. we will see how that goes. one thing that has scarred this conference is the ongoing row over anti—semitism, and you have been central, you carried out the report for the party on that. how do you respond to some of the fringe meetings that there have been at this conference where again there seem this conference where again there seem to have been people questioning the holocaust? this is an enormous conference, and not every fringe meeting is of labour members or affiliate groups. what i will say is that i affiliate groups. what i will say is that l was really proud yesterday that l was really proud yesterday that at conference, 96% of the delegates voted for a rule change that i recommended. it is going to be much easier in the future to deal with matters of discipline. there is no space with matters of discipline. there is no space at all in this party for racism or anti—semitism or any other kind of hateful behaviour, and we are the biggest political party in europe. we are so numerous, we will have some flakes in there, and l have some flakes in there, and l have been very clear. do you think it is just have been very clear. do you think it isjust a have been very clear. do you think it is just a few flakes, because 18 people voted against the rule change. there was an unfortunate speech by a woman who did not understand the rule change, so a bit of scaremongering about i am out to purge the party, but i'm not, that is not really what i purge the party, but i'm not, that is not really what lam about. some people were confused about the effect of the rule change, but even with that, right and left of the party are united. this isn't a right or left issue, this is a right and wrong issue, and we are on the correct side. we heard from mr corbyn's aid last night saying that this would be overwhelmingly directed at voters not the party, but how doesjeremy corbyn fashion a message which resonates with older voters, maybe more affluent voters, voters, maybe more affluent voters, voters who are worried about change? we began to fashion that message in the general election campaign, and it worked really well. we are not going to give a different message to people depending on their age or their part of the country, you can't do that even if you wanted to in the social media age. you are going to see more of jeremy, social media age. you are going to see more ofjeremy, more of the labour values and the message, but you are right... so you are saying that it you are right... so you are saying thatitis you are right... so you are saying that it is going to bejeremy is jeremy edwards not go into change, no sort of moderating of the message? i have to tell you that one of the things that irritates me slightly as when people suggest that lam nota slightly as when people suggest that lam not a moderate person. some of these adjectives may need to change. there is a new consensus in british politics. we have already changed the discourse is that people want a fairer, more equal britain, and that is only interest of most voters and most people, it is for the many, not the few. you think politics has changed across the country, and the normal balance has gone, there is now a desire for change? forgive me, norman, you are using these words like moderation and balance, and they are loaded. lam saying there isa they are loaded. lam saying there is a new they are loaded. lam saying there is a new consensus they are loaded. lam saying there is a new consensus in british politics. moderation is this. moderation is thousands of people coming together saying, we don't have to have a rigged economic syste m have to have a rigged economic system or political system or media system. we can all share in this wonderful nation's wealth, and we can all have more hope in the future. shami chakrabarti, thank you very much indeed. mr corbyn is on his speech at 12:30pm, we are expecting him to go for three quarters of an hour, and there will bea quarters of an hour, and there will be a rendition of the red flag followed byjerusalem. be a rendition of the red flag followed by jerusalem. so be a rendition of the red flag followed byjerusalem. so if you fa ncy followed byjerusalem. so if you fancy a singsong, join us! thank you, norman. stay with bbc news for more of that. more and more of us are having big babies...and it's blumming painful. now researchers are launching a study trying to work out how to best tackle all the complications that come with delivering a big baby. obviously we have babies in the studio, and there they are, they are so studio, and there they are, they are so cute! jasper and mia. the average baby is seven pounds eight ounces and a large baby is generally seen as nine pounds or above. we can speak to some mums who've had big babies. marisa steyn and herfive—month—old daughter mia, who weighed more then ten pounds when she was born. finn prevett is here with her 10—month—old son japser—fox. finn had to have an emergency cesa rea n last year because finn was large. katie burgess is in leeds — she was badly torn when giving birth to her son james, who weighed more than nine and a half pounds. and professor siobhan quenby is a consultant obstetrician who is working on this research. welcome, everybody. jasper weighed tenlb and three ounces. your labour was complicated because of his size? it was a very long labour, over 30 hours. and when he was finally delivered by emergency c section, they were shocked at his size. i later went for a.d. brief they were shocked at his size. i later went for a. d. brief about the birth, and it became very clear that he had got stuck, so he was the wrong way round and then essentially he was too big to turn into the right position, and his head got trapped, so after trying everything to get him out, finally we had to have an emergency c section. what was the impact on you, first of all? both physical and emotional. physically i was very sick. i was unable to care for him. i was in hospitalfor a few unable to care for him. i was in hospital for a few days after he was born, and jury my stay in hospital i was unable to pick him up, so every time he needed feeding, which was very regularly because he was so big, i had to call for help. so it was quite distressing. and then when i went home i wasn't able to care for him, change his nappy, carry him up for him, change his nappy, carry him up the stairs, push the pram. so it was an upsetting time, and it hindered our bonding. and hello mia. she is smiling! and marisa, how are you? your first baby she is smiling! and marisa, how are you ? your first baby joshua she is smiling! and marisa, how are you? your first babyjoshua was ten and a half pounds, and mia was big as well. what is it like giving birth to a big baby?” as well. what is it like giving birth to a big baby? i don't know any different, i have only given birth to big babies. it was tough, but labour is tough. it is interesting that we're having a programme about it because everybody said it shouldn't be any different delivering a big baby to a smaller baby. yes, it was hard, but had no complications. hang on, no worries. there we go. i had none of the complications that she had had, i had a 12 hour labour with my first, and they had to deliver him by forceps, he had some distress but it wasn't that significant. and she was lying back to back, so we did end up in the theatre for an emergency c section, but i had an amazing obstetrician who managed to turn her around and get right with forceps so i gave birth naturally first —— both times which i was happy about. and katie, what happened when you gave birth to get james katie, what happened when you gave birth to getjames and how did it affect you physically and emotionally? i gave birth to james injuly 2014, so he is now three. and all the way through i was showing as big, and l was kind of laughter, really, saying he will be eight pounds, and right through the labour, you will be fine, you will be fine, and l was really concerned. when i actually did give birth, he was over nine and a half pounds, and he was really flattened needed resuscitated. so the team came in and there was all this horrible five minutes where they were working on him and luckily he is absolutely fine and he has come out ok, but i was stitched up and thrown out and l had really bad side—effects for a long time, i kept going back to the doctors and eventually got referred toa doctors and eventually got referred to a surgeon, and l doctors and eventually got referred to a surgeon, and i had actually torn... it has been hard to diagnose because it had healed, but they describe it as a grade 310, which means i have lost my banal sphincter, and l tore right up to my bowels. so i had to have an operation to fix it when he was 19 months, but it has failed, and my injuries are now lifelong and life changing. so it has been quite difficult, really. let me bring in professor siobhan quimby. we are told big babies are healthy babies, so told big babies are healthy babies, so what is the problem? it is difficult to deliver a big baby because there are different approaches, and the doctors don't know which is the best way. one approach we are considering is starting people off a couple of weeks early when the baby is a bit smaller to see if it will reduce some of the convocations. what you starting earlier? induced at 38 weeks. the trouble with that is being induced isn't pleasant, it makes the labour longer, more painful, and so we are not sure if thatis painful, and so we are not sure if that is the right thing to do. so we are about to start a randomised trial where we are going to ask women if they would be prepared to have a computer decide whether to induce them or let them go into labour, and this will produce this data. so in the future doctors will be able to inform women better about what is the best thing for them. sa over the next few years, you are inviting women who are due to have larger babies to see if they would agree to be induced at 38 weeks? that's right. and then when you get the information from that, that should lead to potentially better practice? exactly. most importantly, we will be able to inform women better. in the ideal situation, we would sit with someone who has about a month to go, and say if we induce you, the risks are this, but if we leave you, the risks of this. we don't have that data at the moment so we don't have that data at the moment so we can't have this in formed conversation. the trial will give us the data so we can have a good conversation between the obstetrician and the patient to make sure that these beautiful babies have the safest delivery and the women have the best delivery with the least risk of complications, thatis the least risk of complications, that is what we all want. does that sound like a good idea? in my view, anything that offers the mother or the parents more choice can only be a positive thing. i certainly felt that it was very procedural, there was little flexibility, l informed myself and read a lot, i had ideas of the way i wanted things to be, but it was made quite clear that the health care system had these options, and there was no bespoke, andl options, and there was no bespoke, and i think anything that offers a bit more choice is a positive thing. you feel so out of control with labour, so anything that can help you to feel a bit more like you've made those choices is good. but sometimes the choices have to change. i had a great big bath filled, i get there late, there was no time to run it, so i am on all fours in agony giving birth to a big baby. but women are set up to fail. l was encouraged to make a birthing plan and! l was encouraged to make a birthing plan and l was encouraged to make a plan, iwas plan and l was encouraged to make a plan, i was shown around this beautiful sweet eye hospital, newly built, like a hotel room, was stunning. l was shown around upstairs which was much more clinical, where l upstairs which was much more clinical, where i ended up very swiftly, so i imagined my clinical, where i ended up very swiftly, sol imagined my birth in the pool, and it didn't happen like that, and! the pool, and it didn't happen like that, and i think that set me up to fail, and! that, and i think that set me up to fail, and i felt like a failure because all of the things, when we had a prenatal class, we were shown things like the epidural needle, the forceps, and they were shown to us ina way forceps, and they were shown to us in a way of, you don't want these, andl in a way of, you don't want these, and i ended up having every form of intervention, and that made me feel like a failure, sol intervention, and that made me feel like a failure, so i think birth plans, for me, i like a failure, so i think birth plans, for me, ldon't think it is realistic. it will be no consolation for you, but clearly you are not a failure, look at this little boy!” know, but hormones, being sick, all of that. ten months on we are in a great place, and l of that. ten months on we are in a great place, and i adore him, but it took a long time to get there. good luck, thank you. thank you so much to all of you for coming in. first, i'm going to introduce you to leia trigger. what are you wearing? a mermaid tail. tell us why? well, i used to be able to swim at my local pool used to be able to swim at my local pool, but my tail has been banned so i have no were to swim. so you would go swimming to your local baths wearing that? yes. why? it'sjust a lot of fun. so much fun. ijust can't see a lot of fun being restricted. what is it made of? can't see a lot of fun being restricted. what is it made of7m is like a spandex material. that must be really hard to swim in because you have got to flip like a mermaid. it is difficult at first, however you get the hang of it quickly. so tell me why it has been banned because it is lycra which we know is in various swimming costu m es ? know is in various swimming costumes? the health and safety risk is getting me into trouble in the water or even hitting other swimmers with this as well. do you accept that? yes, i completely understand. so you are not even cross with them? no, no, i'm not! laughter so you just wanted, yeah, it is really nice to chat to a mermaid. it's really nice. i'm going to read this from the swimming pool. i can't find it now! so where are you going to swim now wearing your gear? unfortunately i haven't got anywhere else to swim at the moment. ok. well, iwonder if there is someone out here who help you maybe. yes, that would be really brilliant. what is the attraction of being, how old are you? i'm 18. what is the attraction of being, how old are you? i'm18. what's the attraction of dressing as a mermaid? it was an important thing to do. how often do you put the costume on? at the moment it has been a lot. so you only wear it for swimming? yes. ok. cool only wear it for swimming? yes. ok. cool, well i hope someone can help you and offer you some water. how do i say your name? mermaid aries. leia trigger who likes to swim as mermaid, and her local baths have banned it and she is not annoyed. now the news headlines. theresa may says she is "bitterly disappointed" that the us has opted to impose a tax onjets being made by bombardier, one of northern ireland's biggest employers. the prime minister said the uk would work with bombardier to protect "vital" jobs after the us department of commerce proposed a 220% import tariff. rival boeing complained bombardier got unfair state subsidies from the uk and canada, helping it win a major order. jeremy corbyn will close the labour conference in brighton this lunchtime, by telling delegates that the party is on the "threshold of power" and is ready for government. he will say labour's performance injune's general election "put the tories on notice", adding that the government's handling of the brexit negotiations are not in the national interest. the victoria derbyshire programme has been told that british and irish people who bought into a french property scheme have been left tens of thousands of pounds in debt by what's being described as "slow burning catastrophe" by an mep. the leaseback schemes aimed to encourage people to buy properties in tourist areas, then rent them out. many people now say they are trapped in costly contracts with management companies. a high courtjudge has approved a £37 million compensation plan for hundreds of victims of disgraced breast surgeon ian paterson. paterson, who carried out unnecessary breast operations, was convicted of 17 counts of wounding with intent and three counts of unlawful wounding against ten private patients. he was originallyjailed for 15 years, but that term was increased to 20 years by court of appeal judges in august. the taxi company uber is appealing a ruling that its drivers are workers, not self—employed, and are therefore entitled to a range of benefits including paid holidays and the national minimum wage. it comes less than a week after the firm was told its london licence will not be renewed for failing to report serious criminal offences and carry out background checks on drivers. the case being heard today is being seen as critical to the rights of people working in the so called gig economy. uber argued that it was a technology firm, not a transport business, james farrar is a former uber driver and one of those who brought the case. we're here to get the law enforced. it is a shame the government isn't doing it. we have got a rock solid. my only frustration is we can't get access to our rights while uber exhausts its appeal and it is more time than people can afford. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you very much. : we are going to talk about liar. some rape campaigners say it hasn't necessarily helped the cause in terms of encouraging people who have been raped to report it to the police. your views are really welcome. this is from becky and she sent a picture of her baby boy born in 2015 who weighed tenlbs and 12 ounces. "after pushing for two hours in the birthing centre i asked to go to the delivery suite. thank goodness i did because his head wasn't engaged and he was distressed. i ended up with an emergency c—section and his weight wasn't on the charts in the delivery suite. there were no complications and no reason except genetic as to why he was so big. he started life in clothes age three to six months and he was the talk of the ward." he is delicious. this is roisin who sent a pick of lily. roisin who sent a pick of lily. roisin hasn't told us how much she weighed. this is richard's baby. "we had ourfirst weighed. this is richard's baby. "we had our first baby boy on 16th september. born naturally. 11lbs four ounces. and breast—feeding happily." is that a smile at such a young age? how gorgeous. thank you for those. here's some sport now with holly. england all—rounder ben stokes has been named in a 16—man squad for the ashes tour to australia — that's despite his arrest earlier this week. he will be ready for the ashes which begins in november. he was released without charge. also been included — and james vince returns to the squad for the first time since august last year. harry kane said it was "a very proud night" for him, as he scored a hat trick at cypriot side apoel to make it two wins in two for spurs in the champions league. that's 11 goals for kane so far this month. manchester city also won, against shakhtar donetsk. but it was a frustrating evening's work for liverpool, who were held to a 1—1 draw at spartak moscow. filipe coutinho scored their only goal to leave them with only two points from their first two group games. i'll be back with more on all those stories throught the day on bbc news. good morning. there are calls for an investigation into whether a property investment scheme in france that has left many british and irish investors with bills for tens of thousands of pounds broke eu law. french leaseback schemes were heavily marketed in this country in the middle of the last decade as a way for someone on a budget to afford a dream holiday home. investors were offered a reduction in tax and a guaranteed income if they agreed to sign up with a management company that let the properties to tourists. but many people have found themselves not receiving the money they were promised and needing to pay tens of thousands of pounds to get out of the contracts. some people have ended up so deeply in debt that they've lost their homes. it's being described as "slow burning catastrophe" by a british mep. james melley bought you his exclusive report earlier in the programme. here's a short extract. leaseback schemes in france were set—up so that it would increase investment in tourist areas, by offering tax breaks to people who bought properties and then let them out to visitors. this is how they work. the investor — often in britain or ireland — buys a new home in a french tourist destination. a management company will take over the letting of the property, seemingly guaranteeing a rental income for the owner. these contracts last for at least nine years, but often in that time, the management companies have gone bust and new ones have taken over, sometimes offering a worse service and lower rents. if the owners try and cancel the arrangements at the end of the contract, the management companies demand compensation. this is often for tens of thousands of pounds, which many owners can't afford. pauline and her husband mick bought a property near a beach, where they used to go camping with their children when they were young. they could afford to buy because of money she received when her parents died. we made sure, when we were buying the villa, that we had crossed every tand dotted every i. we had gone through the contract, not only with the notaire, but we had gone independently to another lawyer that dealt with french law. the first management company went bust. when a new one took over it was at reduced terms which meant pauline was struggling to afford the up keep. as a result she chose to end their management contract after nine years. she was hit with a huge bill. if we want to finish our contract, we have to pay in the region of 22,000 euros. it doesn't make sense, but that's how they have viewed it. 22,000 euros. it's a lot of money, so — we do not have 22,000 euros. whilst there are no official figures, it's estimated there are several thousand people in the uk and ireland that have had problems with french leaseback schemes. people have done their best to pay these mortgages. jenny, who is based in dublin, set up a petition, calling for greater protection for consumers. there are people who are in arrears, there are people who are, you know, getting older and being — going through repossession proceedings in france and being called to a french court, and really not being in — not having the health, the financial mean, not having the wherewithal to deal with it. british conservative mep daniel dalton has been contacted by people who say they are struggling financially because of these schemes. i think there is a case that some of these contracts could be illegal under eu law, particularly under the mis—selling of properties. first of all, the european commission needs to look at this, and secondly, this probably needs to be tested in the courts. the third thing is to make sure that the uk authorities are liaising with the french authorities, and that hasn't happened up to recently. so we're hoping that that will start moving the process forward. and it could become even more difficult after britain leaves the eu. french leaseback deals are still available online now, and we have been told there are many well managed schemes. but pauline is among many people taking legal action. for them, the dream of a cheap holiday home has turned into an expensive nightmare. let's talk to tom bailey, who bought a leaseback property in 2004 and is being billed for more than 28,000 euros by his property's management company. richard green manages the company owned by tom bailey. vicky ford, the conservative mp for chelmsford, who campaigned on behalf of british buyers of french leaseback schemes when she was a member of the european parliament, and diarmaid condon who is a propertyjournalist that has written extensively about french leaseback schemes. tom what were you hoping for when you bought the property? we have been holidaying there for 30 years and liked the area and attended a marketing commission at olympia and followed up to purchasing the house. what went wrong? we were given a lot of assurances about the management company at the time and the developer that we could basically purchase the property, have no worries whatsoever, they would look after everything and they would give us 55% of the rent in return. so, it was... it sounds amazing. what's gone wrong? when people reach the end of the nine—year lease that you sign, you're suddenly confronted with a claim for compensation. in our lease, there is no mention of the lease, there is no mention of the lease at the end of the lease that you have to pay this indemnity. this is the 28,000 euros? this was the initial demand, and they then offered me a discount if i paid prom ptly offered me a discount if i paid pro m ptly to offered me a discount if i paid promptly to avoid problems. richard green, why are you presenting him with this bill? could you repeat the question? why are you presenting tom bailey with this bill? the indemnity, the end of the lease indemnity. it is statutory that if a commercial landlord brings an end to the lease that he compensates the tenant, so we are applying the law. you need to put it into context. mr bailey seized his villa. he had rented it illegally, took it back. it is very complicated. sorry to interrupted. there was no mention in the lease which he signed initially of this kind of compensation, if we're calling it that, and you don't have to charge and 28,000 euros.” don't know if you are qualified to know that not. you can make that decision. it is mentioned in the commercial code, it is governed by statute. france is not a country. the central government —— a common law country. the central government dictates how things are done. if i understand correctly... mr green, my lease says that i can give notice at any time during the period of the nine years, and if i give notice, you will not claim any compensation. that is what it says. what is wrong with that? again, as you know, we inherited these leases from a developer who was unable to manage them. we rescued the business that he had setup. i repeat, first of all you were clearly badly advised when you bought, a long time before we came in to help. you can pretty much right what you want in a lease in france but it is not the same as in the uk whereby you can decide what you feel the law is. in france, the commercial code dictates what the commercial code dictates what the law is. but if i may, the commercial code dictates what the law is. but if! may, we have a property journalist who the law is. but if! may, we have a propertyjournalist who has written about this. is it simply a matter of french law, and what madame vacancies are doing is legitimate? it is legitimate in french law. you are entering into a commercial agreement, it is notjust a standard re ntal agreement, it is notjust a standard rental agreement, and a lot of people didn't understand this because they were not told when they signed up but this is a commercial lease, it is under a different law. and this leads to a lot of different problems, this being one of them. vicky ford, you are going to bring this up in parliament. how big an issueisit this up in parliament. how big an issue is it the people like tom? for many of the people involved, this is a huge issue. they have invested their life savings of lost not only their life savings of lost not only their property in france but in some cases also risked property in the uk, and these are not particularly well off people. they were sold properties on the understanding that there would be a guaranteed rental income and on the understanding that they could break that clause at nine years without extra costs. and that is what people are telling me that they understood. this is why i have called for it to be investigated because i think there could have beena because i think there could have been a mis—selling of the information at the beginning, and this is why the irish consumer organisation, many irish people are involved in this, the irish authorities said there is definitely authorities said there is definitely a case for an investigation. the french authorities i'm told have now agreed there will be an investigation. how are you going to help somebody like... ? if there has beena help somebody like... ? if there has been a breach of the law, these people like tom should be compensated for their losses. and if there wasn't mis—selling? compensated for their losses. and if there wasn't mis-selling? this needs to be properly investigated, sol believe on the face of it what has been told to me as a member of parliament looking at consumer law, that this was a breach of the information, it was a mis—selling breach, but it needs to be properly investigated and compensated. and i think this is one whole part of a puzzle about what happens on consumer issues after we leave the eu, because consumer issues don't stop at the border. there are over 100,000 british people live in france. there is a very small number of cases, but we do need to make sure that consumer continue to exist, which is why we are going to have a full debate in westminster the week after next on consumer issues. richard green, can you offer any hope to tom bailey, can you come to some arrangement?” any hope to tom bailey, can you come to some arrangement? i have a couple of points. i also believe that there has been a degree of mis—selling in some cases here. and i do have great sympathy for some of my compatriots. in tom's case, before we run away with ourselves, tom will very soon be the owner of a fairly nice villa with a be the owner of a fairly nice villa witha swimming be the owner of a fairly nice villa with a swimming pool in france which has been pretty much paid for by the work of many local people. let's not cry too hard for tom. i don't know you, tom. but you haven't lost anything. i have made a £70,000 loss. may i also draw your attention toa loss. may i also draw your attention to a letter dated the 16th of may 2007. he says in this letter he will operate our partnership with us in an identical way to that which we had been used to with gpl. and he has not done that, he is a hypocrite. i happen to... . let him just respond to calling him a hypocrite, and then we must pause.” concur, and i think what is important to remember is we are a company where we are tenants, and there are many landlords. in the 3000 properties that we were managing up to a few years ago, and i look back on this with incredulity at the naivete, never in the selling processed it we as tenants meet our future landlords, and i find it very sad that partners as we are are fighting when in fact someone else put it into this position, and we can only use the law to defend ourselves, and sadly, as the journalist mentioned earlier, the law is on our side. i'm going to pause there, thank you very much, richard green, tom bailey, thank you for coming on the programme, and vicky ford, thank you, thank you, too, dermot, propertyjournalist. could new itv drama liar be putting off rape victims from reporting attacks? charities say the series, about a teacher who sets out to prove she is not lying about being date—raped, sends a "dangerous message" victims are better off not seeking support. if you haven't seen the show. here's a taster of what it's all about. hi. we went out for a drink. she invited me back to hers. we had a glass of wine. we started kissing. we laid down on the bed, 0k. were you on top of her? yes. did you push her down? god, no. so i got up and went over to the bathroom. at no point did she ask me to stop. i don't know why she'd say something like this. if i thought for one second that she didn't want to sleep with me — you have to believe me. caught up we're going to have a conversation about this programme now, so if you haven't caught up with it, turn the sound down! we can speak now to daisy buchanan, rape survivor and author of how to be a grown up. what you think of this programme so far? my gut feeling is that i think it's irresponsible. i can see how it's irresponsible. i can see how it's a very compelling drama and how people would want to watch it, but i think ina people would want to watch it, but i think in a world where there are so many rape survivors like me, so many of us don't get as far as reporting anything to the police, it is making things very problematic for the sake of drama. i think if i had seen this, i didn't report my rape at the time, and this would have made me even more anxious about doing so if it had been broadcast when i have my experience. and i know that rape crisis gets nearly 4000 phone calls a week. it is thought there are 85,000 women and 12,000 men a year raped in the uk, and of those, about 1596 raped in the uk, and of those, about 15% go to the police and make a report. the latest home office figures were 7.5% resulting convictions, so when the odds are stacked against us, it makes it really really ha rd stacked against us, it makes it really really hard for vulnerable people to get the help they need when there is this message out there that they won't be believed. when it is he said, she said. not to give any spoiler alerts, but the recent episode is showing that andrew isn't all that he seemed, and he appears at the moment that he is guilty. i know that there are plot twist, but there doesn't seem to be any understanding of the fact that this isa understanding of the fact that this is a crime that affects thousands, millions of real women. but it is not a documentary, it is a drama. do you not think people can differentiate? i'm horrified by the number of people on twitter who saw last night's episode and saying that they are really disappointed, that they are really disappointed, that they hope that andrew isn't guilty, andi they hope that andrew isn't guilty, and i think that is reflective of the society we live in, that will protect men and boys over women and girls. there has been so much coverage about how awful it is, accusations of rape that are false and ruined men's lives, and of course they do, i don't dispute that accusations are wrong. we are coming to the end of the programme, but i do have a statement from itv that i wa nt to do have a statement from itv that i want to read. "we spent a great deal of time researching the issues in the show with a rape guidance counsellor, and wanted to get at the truth of the situation for many women, who face huge obstacles after a crime of this nature. the end of episode three shows our intention to challenge damaging stereotypes surrounding rape, and the series shows how our preconceptions about how things appear on the surface can themselves be damaging, especially in any situation as finely nuanced as one person's word versus another‘s." that's from the writers, harry and jack williams. fair enough, or not? i think that is the sort of statement that a person has to make to justify this. i think there are all kinds of stories you could have told about the reality of women and rape which have been as dramatic and compelling and made it much more reflective of what women go through. i think that drama and entertainment does have a responsibility in such a serious subject, and i think i wish the writers had explored in a way to dojustice to victims. the writers had explored in a way to do justice to victims. thank you, daisy buchanan, the coming on the programme. thank you for watching. we will be back tomorrow at nine o'clock. have a good day. good morning. just like yesterday morning, it has been a rather misty and murky start to the day, butjust like yesterday, things should improve. there will be some sunshine into this afternoon, but as you can see, still a little bit misty. brighter spells developing for many, but it is in the west that we will see more unsettled conditions, certainly some rain moving through northern ireland, west wales and the south—west of england, eventually during the afternoon that will spread its way into the west midlands as well, perhaps the far west of scotland. but to the east of that, any low cloud, mist and fog, it will be feeling quite pleasant in the sunshine again. tonight, the rain will spread eastwards, and with a few clearer spells and western areas, just turning a tad chillier than last night. but for many, temperatures staying in the mid teens. outbreaks of rain affecting eastern areas, clearing away to the far north—east where it remains wet, but elsewhere looking at some sunny spells for thursday, and top temperatures 18—20d. goodbye. this is bbc news,and these are the top stories developing at 11. theresa may says she's "bitterly disappointed" the united states has proposed imposing a tax on a jet made by bombardier, one of northern ireland's biggest employers. "we're ready for government." that's whatjeremy corbyn's expected to tell delegates as he delivers his speech to the labour conference in brighton later. measles has been eliminated in the uk for the first time, according to the world health organisation. the taxi company uber appeals against a ruling that its drivers are workers, not self—employed, and so entitled to a range of benefits. also — england select their 16—man squad for this winter's ashes series. vice—captain ben stokes is picked, despite his arrest on monday.

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