Is. Riley troops have seized the roof of crossing and cancer. More palestinians have been killed in attacks on the area to a place where is royal, had ordered them to flee for safety. Just as the fullest movement of people constitutes a will crime, another appears to be being committed by his ro, an ordering palestinians till now leave ralph of his rouse, action tramples are the use of carefully negotiated agreements on how to govern the crossing the vital gateways of people and goods in and out of the strip. So what does the seizure of ralph and main for garzas palestinians who in now and even grace had died you and will be of the consequences. The israel will be asking out panel of this, these christians in more than just a few moments. But 1st, this report from alexandra by us. Only hours after a mazda is acceptance of a ceasefire. Proposal is rarely tanks rolled into rafa. Seizing the border, crossing with egypt and putting it choke, hold on one of the strips, last remaining lifelines in the above. The closure of the roof of crossing has prevented the entry of trucks carrying mits and medical equipment and fuel that is necessary for hospitals and has prevented the departure of thousands of wounded people and patients who were waiting to travel. As the tanks advanced is regularly war plans has bombed and densely packed homes, and israel ordered 100000 palestinians to leave eastern rasa. Its war cabinets voting unanimously to continue military operations in the Southern Gaza city. Nearly 1500000 displaced civilians have sought safety. Their global condemnation was wide spread and immediate. Make no mistake. A full scale of salt on vasa would be a human catastrophe. Countless modest casualties gone to a small family as far as the fleet. Yet the gain beyond the humanitarian fears, israels actions, this will throw Regional Peace in the balance. These rarely Prime Minister has repeatedly said the border and philadelphia corridor. A narrow strip of land that served as a buffer zone between egypt and gaza were used for terrors purposes and must be under israels control. But both egypt and him off strongly opposed any is really occupation of the border. That would be a breach of long standing treaties and agreements. The Egyptian Parliament has warrant such a move would be a grave risk and an in direct threat to egypt. Alexander buyers, alda 0 for inside story of the russell Border Crossing is gauze, is main transit points of people and goods, including humanitarian aid, is governed by a complex set of agreements that as well has now breached. It was established as a both as own under the egypt, as well at peace, tracy of 1979, based on the camp david accords. Headlight is out the militarize zones and borders and limits the presence of egypt, military and this and not potentially. And when israel withdrew soldiers in st. Louis from kaiser in 2005 had signed the philadelphia cord with egypt bank compet, how the roof of Border Crossing was to be run and allowed egypt to deploy jobs. Shortly off the israel and the palestinian or he reached their own agreement on movement. An excess outlining how they would jointly galvin the kansas sides as well suspended the deal when miles came to a pallet in 2007. Ralph has since been on the joins control of egypt and tomas and gaza collect spring and now guess now in london, silman shank is a form of you and official and found the of the piece Building Organization to shake group know a day is a political analyst and Public Diplomacy specialist who is with us from ramallah also in london. Ha ha. Is a Senior Associated fellow and the kind of get endowment for International Peace and the Royal United Services institute. Thank you very much for being with us here on inside story. First of all, solomon, if i can begin with you, can you just give us, you will perspective on what you believe is happening in and around for off of right now, specifically in regards to the crossing. What, why is this world that, what is it trying to achieve . I think it looks like this. Thoughts of a roading operation into the rough. Uh, yes, it could be diplomatic, fostering to try and put more pressure on. Im us before any agreement comes to fruition. But i, i have my doubts, i am quite quite worried that with the pressure on that and yahoo delivering a total victory as he says. And promising to go into the fun with his cabinet. His right wing extremist genocidal cabinet for some breathing down his neck that this uh, this so called limited operation which supposedly is not trust any red lines or President Biden will actually roll into something much bigger nor do you agree with that to this is the just the beginning of a rolling operation by as row. I fear it, but it may be yes. And weve seen that happen in previous Ground Invasions during this war where nothing. Yeah, how would downplay how long it might take, how extensive it is . And then we see the bills, you know, red lines and those parameters kind of expand them, become a lot more or less tech. So for now theres some verbal, at least pressure on israel. There will be some maneuvering, but i fear that given the way the talks are going, the, the Ground Invasion. And if i could escalate this into something even more catastrophic than what were seeing right now. Yeah, id say can we just take a step back and give us a little bit of context here . Can you just explain why the rough a crossing is so important . Knowing the, you know, before the bowl before october, the 7th. But especially since, because it was really the only crossing that wasnt completely controlled by his well, wasnt it . So thank you for the invitation. There are 7 line crossings from garza into protocol. The rest of the outside world. 6 of them are completely and totally and sold by israel. The 7th, which was that of us, was partially controlled by israel. And this is one of the reasons why International Law and International Community has been so clear that gaza is an occupied tired treaty because israel maintains effective control over gaza. And how it was done since 1967, even after the withdrawal of troops in 2005. So i think thats important for us in terms of the frame it is here. Um when it comes that off because that was pressure control, there was a somewhat. Busy leniency in terms of people moving um through that Border Crossing as. Busy as a and and when we look at how. Busy the these way the government has been incredibly resistant to aid in flows through other Border Crossings, letter long people in terms of people trying to flee the fighting and so on. And i think its a, i think its a very poor indicates are as to what we can expect Going Forward for in the sense that i think that the aid organizations are incredibly concerned about what this means for the flow of age and for people leaving especially for medical emergencies, and keeping in mind that despite all of this talk around negotiations and you know weve had the conversation now over the last few minutes about that. The fact of the matter is that is really media broke the story earlier today. Last week, at a thursdays war cabinet meeting, Benjamin Netanyahu proposed starting the military operation or off of the fall, that as soon as possible, and he over roads and the word cabinet ministers and the professionals, and a source with knowledge of the details at the meeting said everybody rejected that, but he overrode that. So i think that the notion that theres, you know, to, to, uh, 2 parties here, negotiating in good faith somehow is extremely erroneous. Um, and im alexis of mine. Im concerned that this could very easily escalate. Um the fact that that has gotten worse thus far doesnt mean that theres been a decision to roll back. I think that there is a political calculation going on here that has nothing to do with security that has nothing to do with the hostages. That frankly, doesnt even really have much to do it from us, but has to do with management thats in yeah. Who trying to ensure the continuation of his political standing as Prime Minister. Yeah. Solomon, if i can come see to you. Now obviously this is happening as a child was outlining in the context of the sci fi tools that have been on again and off again, growing pressure from the United States. Why do you think that often months and months of talking about this isnt yahoo has decided to go into rafa and take control of the crossing now because we didnt put the god rails on Benjamin Netanyahu pretty much from the 1st week of trout say that the 7th off of those atrocities are committed, you know, i was in the oven and in 2006 and that was working for the u. N. And it was pretty quick. But the American Administration did even this, that was a devastating role for some 11 and that the president bush and found the rice for god rapes on. And is there any cabinet which was shots . I didnt know the well, that didnt happen this time. And you know, these are, these have this notion of an hour of loss the, they think that there is a ton of sign that will eventually run out of now clauses the moment when they have to kind of wrap up. Well, they must keep looking at the house loss and saying, i cant believe that the, the, the, the side is still that, that really just hasnt been the kind of signaling. But that wasnt necessary right now, 7 months, plus on red lines. And remember, the present button was positive, it previous red line and syria, and then the Obama Administration doesnt seem to carry the kind of way that they should. And so Benjamin Netanyahu is doing what she needs to do to stay empower otherwise. Its between the counselor and the anvil, the i, this is a collapse of his cabinets and he goes out into the political world and this perhaps to face prosecution, or if he continues to 5 and, and seek the of, of the International Community. Well, for now thats what hes chasing, and rough im afraid is guessing. Now as well as the rest of the cars and people run. Yeah, and tell us indians in guys a paying the ultimate price start off today is we have seen no human rights which is said with each die that is riley with our hes blocked live saving. I will palestinians are risk time. It really is at the heart of this issue, isnt it . Absolutely, and you know, to add to the, we have to remember that the 1400000 people in rough right now have been in, during war malnutrition trauma for 7 months. So there are ready spent there already, fatigue. Theres nothing left to give. Theres nothing left to kind of, you know, draw strength from. As these people are expelled once again and uprooted once again. And they have to find another space where they can be in a tent and to be at once again, even more vulnerable and more exposed than with less aid than what the then whatever was available to 3 days ago. So, you know, the dangers that we saw in the past are one thing, but what we have right now is a situation where people who have already been stretched to their limits are enduring. What no one can and with less than what was available just a few months ago, there are no hospitals in find units right now where people are being pushed because those hospitals have been destroyed during the Ground Invasion of that of that town. There is no infrastructure it is, you know, some, some repair work has been done, but nothing to kind of deal with the influx of people that were going to see. You know, 10 not, not enough tons available, just commuting from ref. I define eunice will require more money, then almost everybody in the house. So it is a nightmare on all levels. And with no aid, it just, you know, youve got all the elements of a perfect storm and date it ha l correspondent, whos in the obama, who had been in profit whos, whos moved. He said that exhaustion and panic defined what these families are experiencing, being displaced, get again some for the 5th or the 6th time 100000 people, uh, the arrow on the nose. But there really is no way for them to go, is there . There is no side zone in gaza any more, no matter was, is rarely mercury for, for them to go. Those are not my words. Um, those are the words of representatives from a number of 8 organizations. The un, there is not safe, so are all fast, was supposed to be the safe. So many other areas in the south incentive guys were the same to be safe zones. And at every, at every juncture where a particular area was defined as a safe zone, you saw within 24 hours or less, those areas being targeted by id f bombs or messiahs, or, you know, other weaponry and artillery. So there is no safe zone. And in that off, in, in gods as a whole, the entirety of the gaza strip unfortunately is not somewhere that we can consider to be safe. So there is no particular area that can be considered safe from his ran the fire. And there was no, uh, there was not sufficient the infrastructure to care for those who are at this place when they get to any of these areas and the 1st place. Well, one of the suggestion was, uh, was see, which is you know, a small area on the coast which is, which is on sun. I mean, this isnt the place where people can actually live for any period of time, but there wasnt any em restructured there. Anyway, so people who are being told go there and youre safe. Um it wasnt safe. And then on top of that, it also was a livable anyway. So unfortunately, um, this has been a recurring issue for the past 7 months. Where the people of guys that are told go this way and go that way. But even the routes that they are told to go through the roads, theyre ordered to walk on or drive through. Theyre not safe either. And i think that were just going to see that unfortunately become worse and worse. Yeah. As we mentioned at the beginning of this program, displacing civilians amounts to a war crime under International Law. Selman cuts as also co Agents International action. Who specifically has to step up here and try at the very least to do something about this is, does it, it will come down to the United States. Well, for sure, it is definitely the onus is on the United StatesPresident Biden. So thats why i think hes put his, his best administration official, best to build a fence into these talks is a serious is a serious diplomat. And i know hes probably doing his best, but more than that. But i think this has to be accompanied by a series of International Messages led by the United States, which showed a mean that we have to start looking at the supply of weapons offensive weapons. And i note that the secretary blinking has not received the report or is it theyve not yet when it comes to where the human rights introduction that terry law is being violated in this from is the state, the state department. We need that to come out as quickly as possible. We understand that some bones are being held back. It is a very small gesture, if thats the case. And then you need countries like the United Kingdom and france, those on the security council, as well as a European Union to clearly signal that they will be consequences. And that must be no shilling for those who must face International Law. That includes the dissipated indictments and International Criminal court within these days, riley establishment as well as of course, speaking much more openly about the violations themselves. On the i c. J, as it relates to there is, there is a host of things which now has to, to, to be followed through, you know, just on that honestly, job role in human rights. What you said, as well as contravene in the International Court of justice is legally binding orders by obstructing the entry of live saving Items Services into gaza by taking control of the roof of crossing. I mean, this is clearly hasnt deterred is riley at this point in time. What will, if anything, and what consequences do you expect them to face . You know, my expectations of consequences are regrettably low, but i think in order for israel to change gear, countries need to, especially in europe, need to reexamine and re aligned the rhetoric with their actions. And up the moment, the gap between, you know, a you a policies as they are expressed verbally in your policies as their practice when it comes to palestine. And israel is huge, almost insurmountable. And i think joseph beretta, you know, their chief diploma has spoken about that at length. But he seems to be the only, you know, the voice of the desert them this point. Europe can yield a lot of influence, but it has to divide that pressure not to to yield it, not just starting on israel, but also on the United States because the biden administration, so far as showing us that it will continue to push those red lines until they mean nothing, continue to find a way to continue to, to give nothing. Yeah. How are we out and they need to feel that it will become increasingly difficult for them to have allies standing with them on what is real is doing in gaza. And i think that could potentially help bite and make right decisions because of the moments hes defying the base of his party. Is the finding the voters these defying is Public Opinion of our governments in, in your up and in the okay. Yeah, i want to talk about agents now because obviously the rough of crossing is disagreements between uh many people, but egypt is involved in each and every one of them. Id say we saw a