Sing so very to you know, what, how we use michaels full his know with how much was so clear what i need to answer. It is right in the very, very embarrassing point. Who is going to decide this . You said its just a few voices in the room. Who are the voices . No, no its. Its one person. This is benjamin to video and he has to be side. What does he pretty fair. The government continue to spain, power. God knows what for a well go on taking a brain decision saying yes. So the dean releasing doors to address booking and for the small which they will do every single please read it for sure. The videos and try to create a new reality in gaza. Betsys choice, knowing she he would not say she was the back door. Get in as i listen to you. It is. Its, its only just dawning on me how much hangs on the decision that will be made. And that will be taken by benjamin that, you know, i mean you, everywhere you look, this could be a game changer, obviously for him personally and for his political future end of the future. Leadership of, of israel. First and foremost of the millions of palestinians in gaza. Want the end to war, 34000. 00 have been killed for the hundreds of thousands, specifically who are in eastern run for right now, and who have been told to evacuate for joe biden himself, the us president , was 6 months ahead. 6 months out of a very tough re election baffled. I mean, this could be monumental. This is one of your majorly dues as possible to use the diesel. And weve been germany anyhow. We just point it or, i mean it is, it wouldnt be really eh, i versus the mistake you face or say no, no, you know, i guess the bolts of your a bolt, a human being named guys. So those people who believe this is around the corner on a piece of a cease fire and, and pull this up for this sort of also some of the things you know, we have to take them into account as when, when i hear the different guys uh, hippie, even for a few minutes its a for said been is the fake. Happiness is moments of happiness. They deserve it so much those be but it is right. Sure. Thing. The challenge, take the risk and get it courageous in decision to book the go to be for because this was for the day one is a terrible or was it very cool . And brother was, which doesnt serve is right, locally damages and cues, gusta, but doesnt assume its way to sort of get, you know, before. Nothing is what it is to be either much was position then or the 6 of october. I get in. Libby a columnist, it is really newspaper. All right, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Of so the deputy head of home us and guys are highly ohio has detailed the stages of the ceasefire proposal that im us has agreed to listen to this set up for the proposal includes 3 stages each stage lasting 42. 00 days are the essential aim of the proposal is a permanency is flowed into complete withdrawal from the gaza strip on the return of the displaced i. But im on. What about the sort of the present . A swamp will take place in 3 phases. Phase one will include the exchange of civilians. The remaining is really women and still has a captive in gaza. And these really female soldiers and the children under 19 years old and it also includes b as in the above 50 years old, on the sick. And we need to determine always sick. Both thing is really prisons and among the captives in gaza. Youre watching out a 0. My name is nate barker, im following on from serial viney. I only developments that are being on folding in the middle east regarding a mass is apparent agreements or but it will accept the terms of a ceasefire proposal. We started to get more details about that as the sort of course in gaza. Proposal put forward by class on egypt. Well, earlier there was things of jubilation across the strip as posted into the news that her mouth had indeed accepted, not cease for ideal. Wow. My says bull is now in israels course is ready. Media is reporting that the countrys negotiating team is reviewing. The proposal will soon issue an official response. Israel has threatened to carry out and offensive and gaza southern most city rafa. And just to area on monday issued a warning, forcing thousands of palestinians to flee parts of the city. Lets go to where i will, if this matters most to rough or target using is the, with the reaction of people. Uh, topic of course seems of jubilation. Give us a sense of how people are reacting to this news, given that this is only essentially half the story. We wait to hear, of course, where the israel will agree to a yes knave. In fact. So since the 1st moments with palestinians and rough, ive just heard the news about the approval that had been issued and released by how my sides to the ceasefire agreement, palestinians this talk to, to celebrate re joey some. There was a great sense of joy among zeus displaced people who have completely seen that this is a significant step being taken in order to end the fighting on the ground. Now they have been set up writing trumpeting slogans of time that its time right now for a ceasefire as now. Those people have finished their own set of patients now waiting for the confirmation on the approval of the east. Really side regarding the step that has been presented by how my sides and under the supervision on the mountain prussia being practiced and exhausted by the American Administration. And regional majors who were working tirelessly in the course of the past period to bridge the gaps of disagreement between our mazda and is well now people previously have been experiencing multiple sally is regarding the, the efforts being made to get to aspire. But this john, this is the 1st ever that thomas has been accepting the proposal that has been initiated by the egyptian intelligence on, by the regional medea is now completely, people are waiting for the confirmation from the eastern side. They believe that now there is the quotes of the is very government, which now is facing mounting pressure from the is, are, is ready, civil upfront and the families of cap says, who are right now holding for the return of their loved ones from the gods, which are from the hands of mazda as well, where the ceasefire agreement is distressing. 13 phases in which they will guarantee the full is really withdrawal and from the gaza strip. Very heavy restoration of the cap serves under the same time full succession of hold. The military offensive on the gaza strip. Now there is a great deal of optimism among palestinians who are completely hopeful that they were going to be for sampled announcements for the ceasefire within the common dollars. Or i lived for us in rough a topic. I was a many things so that so thank you. Okay. Well, uh, as i mentioned there were learning some more information about the contents of the deal. Terika shed, some of those details. The odyssey spot proposal includes 3 phases, each lasting 42. 00 days. The 1st phase of the deal increased providing passage for displace palestinians to return to their homes. The 2nd phase of the deal includes the withdrawal. All of this ready troops on the announcement of a permanent end to is really military operations within that fluid phase. Theres also a provision on ending the blockade on the gaza strip. Okay, well lets go now to the occupied westbank and no, its a political analysts joining us live from ramallah. I know we of course have to issue something of a Health Warning when it comes to this announcement by him ask that theyve accepted the terms of the ceasefire proposal we have seen and im sure youve seen it as well. Those scenes of jubilation in gaza always saying anything but echoes. Thats where you are. I think theres a lot of cautious optimism here in the west bank. People waiting on pins and needles to hear back from israel after ham us through the square curve ball. If you will, in natania whos quarter and they want to see what will come out of tel aviv, is this going to be for real . Will this cease fire materialize . A lot of hope is heading on that and people fear of those, you know, last hours, if you will, or last minutes carry a lot of risk, a different what we know about his ro, how israel is offer a said throughout this conflict. How optimistic, how doubtful all you personally, given your observations over the past many months since the conflict began as to what this all means, what the response may be from television. I think its difficult to predict because the, you know, nothing you know, is in a bind right now. And theres a lot of pressure thats coming to bear from the bite and administration. Although we have to caution, i think the viewers that bite and applies pressure, but only so much on israel. So, you know, the feeling is that he will find a way to kind of wiggle, nothing, you know, out of a difficult spot. If he, if he needs to, but theres a lot riding on the ceasefire, not just for palestinians, not just for his release, but also for the, the bite and administration which needs call him right now to kind of get his house in order in preparation for the democratic convention, so i am cautiously optimistic, although, you know, as youve been reporting there are, theres a lot riding for nothing. Yeah. Who, personally, he has to think about his coalition. He has to think about how this is going to look and whether he can survive it. And i think it will come down to a realization that no matter what happens, nothing. Yeah. Who will not survive this war just like Many Political figures, wallet, and that a deal right now will save lives on both sides and it is really urgently need and nobody will, it saves lives, of course. But it would also lead to the freedom of many people who some of the costs are being held without charge detains many of them youngsters, health. And is there a, the facilities according to what we know, at least of the phased different stages of this proposal is that, well, it will also include the release of not only captives and gaza, but also many, many prisoners. And they all keep pod west by what would it mean to see that happen . Were talking about a substantial number of people in the thousands potentially being released is right. But we heard from hell us saying that they agreed to lower the number that they had initially asked for in return for the release of the captives. And the 1st phase, at least 30 threes rarely kept as an exchange for 30 a for each is really civilian captive and 50 for each female soldier. But those will include, as you said, political figures, high profile, palestinian political figures from all factions that will have. And then, you know, a very powerful impact not just on the paralyzed political life in palestine, but on the credit billet e and popularity of him us as well. The fact that it would be able to secure their release. We dont know yet how they would be released, where to they would be released. There were some reports that they might have to accept being in exile or going to gaza in order to secure their freedom. Those details are still not clear, regardless of what happens. Securing the freedom of people who have been imprisoned for decades. A high profile leaders figures who have a lot of impact and significance for palestinians will change the dynamic of palestinian politics. And i think it will position him us in a much more comfortable situation when it has to have that tough conversations that will secure the 3rd phase. Because we have to remember that this is a 3 phase agreement. The 1st one is pretty much i round out, the 2nd one will require negotiations, but the 3rd one is about reconstruction. And were still hearing from the American Administration that there will be no talking with him us. There will be no dealing with him, us or palestinian agreement has to be reached about the day after in order to make that 3rd phase possible and, and positioning how often that positive light, if you will, with securing the release of those prisoners potential, really including someone like, might want to be able to browse would go a long way to making those conversations a lot more. Com. No, no. I wonder if you can give us a bit more details about tomorrow on bogu t, because he is often being described as a potential Palestinian Leader in waiting, a high profile person behind boss who could well be a very important figure. If indeed he is released. What might one was a popular parliamentarian effect, the figure he was detained in the is really invasion of the west back in 2002 in april of 2002. So 22 years ago he has remained a symbol of National Unity. He was born of the main protagonist of a National Document called the National Unity document that was produced in 2005, which leaders inside the prison had hoped, would get for the have him, us to act more in unison to elite a government together. It, those efforts didnt work, but the status of mud one, but it will be as a symbol of National Unity as a fact. Actually there is a time us can trust and talk to remains. The polls suggest that he is extremely popular in the west bank. He hails from a small village near my law. He is respected in garza as well. So well see if and when his freedom is secured. Whether he can take the home, if you will, or take the role expected or envisioned for him. But due to all those polls, given the significance, the scale, all of these laces developments, why are we not seeing immediate responses from the policy and it will start to where you are to this announcement by im us as well. We heard, we saw a statement from the palestinian presidency will coming in agreement. Although we have to again remind viewers that an agreement if it has not been announced yet. We have to still hear what the is really government response is. But the Palestinian Authority isnt in a very uncomfortable position as it is sitting on the sidelines. Its not involved in the negotiated negotiations. Nobodys really asking for their involvement or opinion. And they have very little effect on what can transpire in terms of outcome of negotiations. So you know, the events, the outcome of those negotiations, the cease fire agreement diminishes the already we can position of the Palestinian Authority. So no one would understand why theyre kind of staying in the background. While those of this news comes, uh, you know, comes out. Yeah. Exactly, an awful lot of details still need clarifying, still need. I think i have no day and romano. How many . Thanks for joining us. Thanks for your input. Okay, well look, joining me in the studio now is the time of our communities, the assistant professor of Public Policy that the highest chief of graduate studies at time a little. This is evolving rather quickly, isnt it . Let me start by asking you this. How is it possible for us to square the scenes of jubilation that were seeing on the streets of rafa another positive, gaza with the approach silence coming from his way. Um and if i mean, okay, so guidance of so the splits the sports, i mean and for them and, and for is ultimate goal. I mean, and that, that, and for that homes and for from the thousands the been kicked out of the, one of these really is i think uh, i mean i get into so many unknowns and sustains and, and we dont know whats the, whats, whats the find that outcome fits because of the lack of the details, but the way it was to be present at the time as spokesman has laid the 3 stages out of it. I think if this one, this deal picks off, then this leaves us up when we pick up a political best. And thats the most important thing. Because were, when were talking about the for the then an end to look at the gather slip. This means that there is an explicit superposition by the us and is an undeniable, the thomas is a key, political party, Political Force and the pursuit of society. And they have to engage with it simply people that theyve been seems like they did with the funeral, which was a sponge, any move in. And that was, and eventually that each piece agreement, which was also with all, thats what we know about also. So, but for me, i mean, as i see it now, i think the sol exhibit the differences in the details. Went up out those uh, were looking at the media the results of, of, of any possible indeed now, which is the, as the end of the fight thing, you know, what are the single captives. But when we talk about the for the. Busy ending of the okay and the reconstruction because of this, it brings me to the big question on the americas of theres a, theres some committed to the keyboard which is stopping down of how much is governance and gaza. Thats, that is yes. Then i think the suggest buying thought, i mean, would not see it. Its like, i mean what, what do you so she, you finally said in these proposal last huge issues. She mentioned that the end of the authority brocade of goes up to 17 years. So it is very, very difficult to imagine that being immediately agreed to without any kind of pushback from the sort of the cycle. So the same time this crucial point, the, the, the commitment to a permanent end, to the conflict read, that would be a huge 1. 180 degrees screeching you to if a bunch of in that you know, i was to agree to 100 percent. And of course thats a lot of thing to do. I mean for the students deserve independence state. They deserve to be free. Does have the zip to beautiful select it to be part of a good. Its upfront, its done and i think it was the west bank, but again, i dont see this. I dont see us close to this because the americans on the 30th. Uh yes, the nothing affected as big these ladies by logs of the pro war. Uh, i think the board is in the middle and of course again, its between by then and let them know this time. If its by then managers to squeeze up in the, at the end to accept this, i think that is a way footboard. If not, then again, its just wasting time uh this, this route might succeed. It might, it might go. Busy with the 1st stage of the, the succeeding, then the 2nd and 3rd, again, same thing. So theres somebody on those unknowns in this book. You know, if the americans have a, when particulars americans of the west of the Community Keeps freshening, isabel, we might see a break through. Lets hope it works because this genocide level has to end. But as soon as they have to be, see that this independence states and the fates, so he was price, i mean for, for this so many other names. So many hurdles time a great day. You will thoughts . Okay, well uh, the White House NationalSecurity Council spokesman confirmed to us is company reviewing them us response instead of reaching a deal is the best possible outcome is currently reviewing that response and discussing it with our partners in the region. Director burns, as you know, is there and hes working this in real time on the ground. I wont be able to comment any further on this until we know where things stand. I hope you can understand that. I know everybodys curious about whats in this response with these