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We want the education, my wants to be the we dont have lead them in Different Countries policy and its going to get 50 percent representation and accountability and benefit knowing that was a service at this point. But then youre saying you dont have your reports with it. I should just trust that unity austin is 5 times the crew that used to produce outstanding gentleness. And ill just see her integrity in the seats of hi. Im Steve Clements and i have a question. Hospital by hospital. Israel has been annihilating guys. His entire medical system, but what happens when its all gone . Lets get to the bottom line. Its probably more accurate to come. Busy to health care apocalypse and a health care crisis. A few months ago, it was shocking to hear that palestinian doctors had to perform operations without anesthesia because israel was balking supplies or watches, so many thousands of people were being killed and injured every week. And patients were flooding floors in the hallways across causes hospital, thousands of people such sheltering your hospitals because theyre supposed to be safe, even in what time. Right. Well think again, why the hospital after another has been surrounded by is really tanks bombed, rated, destroyed. Nowadays, the entire Health Care System in the gaza strip is on the verge of collapse. And more than 600 doctors and Health Care Workers had been killed by israel in the last 5 months. And malnutrition and disease are spreading due to the choke, hold on, just about anything getting in. And the word shows no signs of stopping soon with hundreds more palestinians killed and wounded daily. So whats gonna happen when causes Health Care System totally collapses . Today were talking with dr. Fire off my Global Health director for the department of emergency medicine, an Advocate Christ Medical Center in chicago, and also in chicago. Dr. Moore, i am getting a human apologist on colleges who co founded the palestinian American Medical Association. Thanks to you both for joining us. This is a complicated, a sobering topic. Doctor ok mad you just as i understand it, spent 3 weeks in Nasir Hospital in con eunice. And id like is best you can. Youve written about this in the chicago tribune, but id like you to give a feel for what is happening there. That is often not seen on tv, not disgusting, shows like this, but what is the real life situation of god since right now in hospitals, in, in, under attack . Yeah, thank you for having us, steve. This is an important topics i do want to mention, especially with whats going on most of hospital now that people need to be aware that most of the hospital was the last remaining trauma hospital in the gaza strip. Um, it was a hospital that prior to the war was, could accommodate around 350 patients. And after the war it had well over a 100 patients. And with that in mind, there are over 10000 people that were sheltering in and around the hospital. So when you walk through the Emergency Department and you are moving through the different parts of the hospital, you see people everywhere, you see children and their families that are sheltering in the hospital in every corner and in the hallways. And so it really is an overwhelming scene on top of that can units for the last 6 weeks culminating, and the reading of uh, of, and most of hospital was the center of his ran the military operations. And so there was an incredible amount of destruction and death that was taking place in san eunice that was already overwhelming the Hospital System prior to it being surrounded prior to it being rated prior to over 70 members of its staff being abducted. And many of them being injured in the process, i will share this with you. I mean, we would see so many different injuries, shrapnel injuries, people who are stuck beneath the rubble after their home had been bombed or who are victims of drone attacks. But this really kind of solidifies what were talking about when we feel like the Health Care System is under attack. There is a surgeon, his name is dr. Charlotte, hes the last remaining surgeon at north have hospital. Hes still very, are now despite the hospital being rendered inoperable. You have to realize that the military does ran. The military has cut off the electricity to the hospital. There is no water in the hospital. Its functionally just a building. Its no longer a hospital. But doctor kind of shared with us that over the last week while the hospital was surround it and people are being told that they need to leave. And despite being told that they should leave being shot in the process as, as they were trying to leave the hospital perimeter. He said in the 4th floor where the operating operating room and theater is. One of his nurses was shot in the chest and he had to perform the surgery on that nurse. You know, a Health Care Provider can easily become a patient or the victim of this war. But theyre really kind of solidify that, i think. So people can truly understand whats taking place here. I think people in guys meet the false assumption that hospitals would be the sanctuary place that they would could be protected and be safe there in time and time again. Theyve been proven wrong and these places have come up to the to well let me ask you a question. You know, whats, whats been floated in a lot of the media in press. Is that the infrastructure, the civil infrastructure in gaza is essentially has been infiltrated, controlled tunnels built beneath by hamas that hamas is inter go in integrated into those Healthcare Facilities when you were there and you were operating in those 3 weeks is as, as a doctor, performing did you have any sense at all that how mosse was weaving in and out of that final last hospital in gaza . Is there accuracy to those claims . Its uh, in fact i noticed the opposite. I saw tons of women and children. I saw pregnant women. I saw kids playing rings around the rosy in the Pediatric Division of and us at hospital. Nothing that i saw suggested anything like that. In fact, we saw horrible stories of families losing loved ones in their homes being destroyed. And im looking for tense in an already crowded area and thinking about having to go further south that off. And i know uh dr. Moore, i used to, i know very well has been took as that as well. And im sure that he can tell you the same thing that there is a decent amount of people in the guys who are looking for help or rely on help. And you know this, this sort of narrative. I think its, uh, i think its not something that spells out you dont really necessarily see it accurately on the ground. Thats the case. And at if you are the founder, you help run the palestinian American Medical Association. Tell us about the medical association and supplies and how youre trying to essentially envelope this crisis with aiden support for the people. You know, 1st of all, thank you for having us both set that and myself. Were happy to be here and you know what the posting in American Medical Association was founded in 2013. And weve been operating in regards to that in the west bank for the last 10 years. With mainly focusing on rebuilding the Health Care System in the west bank and the guys including, you know, providing medical supplies. And we just actually built an intervention to rebuild unit, to serve the whole population on the issue for hospitals that just became functional in july of last year. It took a little bit of difficulty and challenges even before the october 7th started. And thats important. You know, to ship the light on when we talk about the Health Care System and thats it for 17 years old blockage because it has been under extreme conditions. And people have been suffering of lack of resources by all means. You know, you talk about, you know, the bottom line of, you know, whats happening is that the, you know, 1st of all, we know that the majority of hosp because have been destroyed out of maybe 35 hospitals that serve best value over 31. Have been destroyed suited clinics, and in terms of Outpatient Clinics and outpatient services. That being destroyed, youre talking about hundreds of thousands of chronic condition patients who are unable to get medical care. Were talking about, you know, thousands of women who are, who are pregnant and able to get the kid until the end and so forth. And i mean, you know, that of course understands. Are there, you know, having said that we have also, you know, as mission scheduled to go to in march and were bringing time to bring more and more people of critically needed supplies and critically needed specialties. We have over 1500 volunteered Healthcare Professionals in the United States towards the whos are signed up with the policy and American Medical Association and ready to is all. Hopefully we can bring them as fast as we can. And as much as we can do to, to bring healing and hope to the promising and people. The other thing that i think is important to mention, i think, uh, you know, the doctor might have knows this very well. Were both a part of organizations trying to bring people in. Weve been trying to get people in since the end since the started. And it wasnt until january, we were able to start getting these delegations, and i mean, we wanted people to be able to get in, get on the ground, see whats taking place and come back and be able to share whats happening. Because as im sure youre aware of steve, i mean nobodys getting into to the gaza strip, but i was gonna, i was gonna ask you, i mean, i just simply wanted to ask you how you got in. How did you get in . How did you get in . How did you get out what, what does that process like . And just one other question, you know, its so impressive to hear about the number of people who want to go in support. But what are the ethics of that as well . I mean, this is a war zone. So many people over 600 healthcare workers, doctors, nurses, and others have been killed. I mean, im just interested in that dynamic, which obviously has to be stressful for you and, and for them. Yeah, i mean, you know, the w h o i think uh when you talk about how the security situation is so unstable, the w h o is forming these emergency medical teens and theyre looking at n g o is like met global and pama to provide the volunteers because you cant just send somebody to, to a guys that you because youre not going to be able to sit, to ensure their safety or their security. You just mentioned how many people have been killed from the health care world. But everything, i mean journalist, were talking about un agency workers. I mean all of these people are at risk. Nobody is safe and gaza and everybody acknowledges this. So the w h o decided that they would take on volunteers and they would help coordinate the entry for people to get into the gaza strip and get out of it as a strip. And ill tell you what, you know, be getting in through the w h o, it was great. Its a, its, its nice to have a big you, an agency being able to help you get through that border. But it is absolutely a difficult situation on the ground and i remember being at and also hospital and feeling like the f 35 was going to land on top of the hospital. Every bomb that was striking in the parts of can eunice, the Hospital Building would shake. We had the Emergency Department window break while it was there, from the shrapnel that was flying through. So you know, no one is spirit and no area is safe. But i think, and i, i think you know, uh dr. Moore, you can definitely talk about this. But the reason you get so many volunteers is because people have been watching these events unfold for the last 4 and a half months. They have felt like they want to do something they felt like the entire world has let the people have guys a down and it was time for us to work with our hands and get in there. And i think, you know, i think dr. Mike, can definitely speak to how people are feeling here to the diet, in terms of the palestinian diaspora. Right. Let me ask you a question. I dont ask this slightly. Yeah. Its, its a, its one of those questions that i, i, uh, i hesitate to ask honestly, but you know, is real, this really miller, teresa is it is at war with, from us. Do you feel that is real . Is it work with just how much is israel at war with something larger . Is the number to speak the tools, you know when you talk about the hosp, because the number of hospitals that are being destroyed and like i said dirty are 31 in hospice of 35 primary candle, outpatient facility 125 Health Care Facility is targeted and damaged 124 ambulance is 340 medical personnel is between, you know, those water killed, those who have been detained by his radio thursdays. And its hard to believe that this is only targeted, you know, against a specific uh, a group of people and palestine. I mean, in addition, we all know the number of children that have been killed and the number of women that have been also then we also know the suffering of all those patients with the chronic conditions. So its very hard to believe that this is, you know, award against a specific group of people in palestine and you know, the suffering the, extends beyond a specific group. And we know its touching the life of liberty, palestinian, both in the west bank and gaza. From our standpoint, it has people in the medical field. And what we try to do is try to focus on the humanitarian aspect of this and provide the object they needed medical supplies that human being, deserves with these conditions and beyond who is stopping a getting in. What is the geo political reality that that is stopping the aid from getting in from your perspective, both having been on the ground, but also someone organizing externally significant support resources and, and, and human personnel to get in doctor keeps on it. Yeah. You know, in the United States here, from the beginning of the crisis, we started the medical supply campaign. We have a warehouse here in chicago, and we were able to collect, you know, 2 containers worth of equipment. Maybe the worth of hundreds of thousands of dollars, medical supplies mostly dispose of the medical supplies. And we also had another warehouse in kansas. We would like to be able to ship one can seen or so far as what we have here. And again, its old because of the extreme complexity of the logistics of lot who is that receiving and where are the supplies going to go . And it does not like you said it is what it does, not peasy. Thats again talking about what we can bring from the United States to the people who needed the most and goods that to the hospitals. Now, speaking also in egypt, we wouldnt be able through, you know, collaboration with other organizations to bring some, you know, basic Food Supplies or tends to host the people who are displays. Right . And again, the flow is very limited and the procedure is very complex through bringing stuff through the border. So i think the part of intake, which is that i thought border, you know, 1st of all the 1st of all it is control, you know, by is gibson government. And 2nd of all, it is controlled by that. How much or how, what is the capacity of the border that can bring in . And that, of course, you have to go through with the procedure of inspecting and making sure you know what is being brought right . Is, you know, mean, so it is a very complex process and the same thing applies actually to bringing you medical teams. Its a very complex process. Requires a lot of work and preparation. When we did a show recently, we had a show recently with folks who were very knowledge about and run in under a situation providing support and that that roster area of the population as well as from 300000 people to one and a half 1000000. Now, so that the scale of need in volume, but dr. Off, but i would like to get your sense of what you think from your experience is impeding the delivery of the supplies that so many say theyre trying to give find this is that like whos getting in the way . Yeah, i mean look before october 7th, we know 500 trucks of 8 or is getting into the guys a strip every single day. After october 7th, we know that number went down to 0 and now were at a plateau or between 80 and a 100 trucks entering every single day. Why are we not at 500 . Wheres the