Why are you not just issues and its pages are warning the time is running out for tens of thousands of refugees displaced by the ongoing fighting into that. And new york city declares the state of emergency slash fraud said all 5 boys of the big on far as small with the sport barcelona beach, severe to return to the top of my lead gas. I may have one of their old rivals to fax former around with red star sergio ramos spring ball into his own that to him bar side a one l with the thank you very much for joining us. Will begin this, use our with the classes in the garden know kind of by way more ethnic. Armenians has been fleeing the region. Most of them are heading to armenia of hearing prosecution after as a, by john to control. The armenian government says a number of people who have crossed into his territory has passed a 100000. Thats nearly the entire ethnic arminian population of not going to kind of by the boldest city of gore each has become a hub of arrivals. Authorities of setup reception Reception Center that oversee the needs of people arriving. And those whove been fleeing from the goal know kind of box a. Theres a strong presence of as a by johnny military and Police Inside the enclave. Earlier armenia asks the International Court of justice to order as a by john to withdraw all its troops, one city, an establishment in nego, no kind of box. While we have corresponded in following developments on both sides of the board at venice. Smith is in the armenian capital yet, yvonne. But lets begin with osama bin drive it. Who is in hora dish in azerbaijan. Not far from the going to kind of back with some a. Tell us about what youre hearing is happening inside the enclave. Have o s me call media and slapped the reach and now what does appear so that most people are already gone and only a few 1000 if any will remain in this region. And that was estimated, as we saw this constant stream of people, we saw them in latch and we saw them on the outskirts of to show and the roads coming out of us to find a good our fund can be as people have been coming there from all regions off the go or no car about our, our stuff as it was formerly known. And now these people are being facilitated according to the advisor and the government on buses and other routes. So they can leave and theyre being also urged to stay. But as others on the officials have been telling us that theyre not able to hold any one by force. They have to allow them to decide on their own, but then they want to stay. Partly this comes as in the next few days with expecting a you and delegation will be going towards new garner caught about as well. This is going to be allowed by the other brothers and the governors who heard from the president for an ministry saying that this will happen after 3 decades of near silence in that area. They move ins. And invitations for International Observer were limited or restricted and say, this thing that this will show them a glimpse of what it caused in an occupation, destruction and settlement building in its own type of fee. But as its all happening, people are continuing to leave, as they are reassurance as being given to the people. Nobody seems to be leaving them. Okay, osama, thank you for the update of sound ive been job and reporting a lie from har dish, not far from the goal, no kind of backlash crossover now to armenia and Bernard Smith is in the air of on for its been its how are a meaning authorities dealing with this large influx of people coming in from the go know kind of a the following is a southern and decisive. And so really, one of the most intractable estimate conflicts to come out of the full of the soviet union and the speed of it as cool is everybody, including the medium authorities. Im the un by surprise view and h c. All i can mention it that we do use was expecting initially maybe 90000. It scrapped those plans and he said, is expecting a 120000. 00 refugees to come from the going of cadillac, pretty much the entire population. None of them, none of the people weve spoken to have confidence in these every governments as a badge on a governments play and the security will be guaranteed if they decided to stay. And the reason for that simply is that tens of thousands of people on both sides of died fighting for and against the going no kind of back. The media have to come meetings last decisively, a war in 2020 many People Living that have looked through to was that price and that pricing because they fear. And despite as a buy, jones insurance is assurances they fear they will be treated as the lose as nasa by john will come in as the big suspect is why the ones weve spoken to have decided to lead us. They say probably be future generations can live together side by side as they want state. But they come, those who have decided to leave for an it where in armenia, are they headed where, i mean, are these specific areas that i set up for them or they joining families that are already in our media. So its all been, its all a bit hub at hawk. There are many people with relatives here and media who will stay with relatives initially. But so those are always in crumbs conditions while they look for somewhat more permanent to stay all those or in uh oh. So im sorry to hear a sound of stories like results of being closed or in school holes in school yards. Others have been offered empty houses in bold of villages along the folder with us or by john, i know those are still sleeping in that cause because they either havent yet been dealt with or they havent been able. I didnt know like the accommodation, the governments offering them, so its all a bit at hawk. But the median government says hes dealing with international and private charities to help with funding find accommodation and to help with psychological support and medical support for those who need. So all right, thank you very much for annette for the moment, but its made life for us. The in armenia is capital. Yeah. Yvonne, lets now speak to joe lorry, whos a spokesman for the International Organization for migration. Hes joining us from garsh in armenia. Thank you. Very much mister lorry for being with us. Can you just update us 1st on the numbers of people arriving from the garden . No kind of boss and where in our media all of a at the moment. But i think there all day and ive heard that the numbers, bits of. Ringback so fast to 100000 people, which means that almost everyone who wants to come over has come over time. It seems that about 40000 people, happy holidays direct by the government around the country times the other say 60000 top. Com as often happens. Ive gone stairs, relatives with friends with quincy, those organized on social media sorts of some of that already. But we want to see on situations packed off and by the governments knowing where they can accommodate people. Of course you end up liking them, cherry. Busy positions have been working is take care immediately. If im cherie and yeah, can you tell us about where you are right now . I see some tends to behind you. There are people being a reception is there. Is that like a Reception Center where people have been coming in yes, theres un organizations, theres does that cost on their local volunteer organizations and the non governmental. Ready government little message here, theyve been surprised to thats what dreams are for the spaces for kids to play. Seems the cost to very quickly. I wasnt pre estimate of the 5 because the option of the router yesterday, many people are passing through. So fox to be arranged of the transport, to bring people to the destinations, you know, media, but i can say that people are being street outside for here since june, but organized on. But the question is not so much whats happening right now, but no monetary catastrophe. Is that a lot of different . What was that . A challenge by prompt option. So what happens over the next days, weeks, months and years will stay here long term of can you tell us a bit more about the destinations where these people are being sent to us because weve heard from mont corresponding a little earlier that many of them are in fact, joining relatives to already in armenia or what exactly the people that are contracted with the generation specially with other families just across the board. Or we have heard the people on june to me sorta inside our media. They dont want to be in the border areas about your way so many essential threats, which is the way you from, from this area im moving into other parts of the country routes. Also, people wants to get the capital, whether theyre maybe more important Job Opportunities for jeff and the people have gone to where that relative stock, which is all over the country. Yeah. You want a see or mr. Laurie um has been describing these people as refugees, but have they actually been registered as refugees in armenia . What, what is currently their legal status . Theyre not that i really cant. Im saying that thats not something. Busy ive been in here all day long. I dont know what the nation was on that. Certainly the language being used as i read jews across the passion for with the fear of persecution swap you and hcr you and told him that whatever that cold when they are its exactly she doesnt have to have a medias. Not just need some food and shelter and they also have great me insurance. Busy so i can also get a Psychiatric Health officer showing a job search. I can let you know this. Busy from the National Organization for migration, were starting to at least to mobile out too much. You should be able to say a package of people with primary health care and also without bill be struck out just in these mobile connections to work in this region. And hopefully thats more of a general. Busy come through, taking care many more fast to help them get you over the best theyve gone. Yeah, i was going to ask you about the needs on the ground because a lot of questions about whether armenia can absorb, says many people all at once. What does on media need right now to do with such a large influx of people as well . I know that the, remember they start cards from holidays in the city, the, the, the median golfing district, and the lead on this. But un, i know the positions walking to the a plan to get out of cherry lane slammed up. Deliveries are complete to care about driving, needs to be taken care of for the long term needs. The house, if you want to cherry organizations from United Nations, im special Community Health i media to deal with its calvin shore. Bunch about for years to come. Thank you so much for speaking to us and taking the time to tell us about a situation where you are jo, lori spokesman for the International Organization, for migration joining us there from goldfish in armenia. Well, as you heard they, they are a lot of legal issues surrounding this launch exit as of people from the go know kind of back into armenia. Joining is not on the use our is least moreno or council. Hes a former chief prosecutor of the International Criminal courses. Joining us from washington d. C. Thank you very much. We saw campbell for be with us on algebra. So as of today weve heard that more than a 100000 se, carmine and so ive left my go know kind of by and are now in our media. Your meeting president has said, whats happening right now is an act of ethnic cleansing that they had one International Community for, for a long time. Do you agree with this description . Missile counsel is whats happening today in the goal know kind of ethnic cleansing and the cliff you expression to describe the problem, but the legal description is called general site visit general site. How so as well. Yeah, the from forms to come with general side general side is the crime described by convention. There are 5 forms to come to general side to be, to see whats already called meeting, seem to some that is create the conditions with target group. And that happen when through by john block that you can clearly door cuz really is stopping the traffic of food on an all day. Essentially for the be a mean, you know, leaving the got off. That is a one general site creating condition that dental side does not require thoughts. Different dental site is going to be did since september 19, which is 6 b, but using both of them in but ha, all these people are escaping from the boss. Is on the oval buy for centuries. Of course the normal was meant the harm. So this is for me clearly jennifer, i did see b and remains to know how many people would kill. And that would be 6, a killings in particular that very concerned about people to arrest that by as there was, im full is, is because is look, in my opinion, david fundament opinion, say people that recognize it by john, out of the subject, to talk to us im feeling that, you know, independent, youve said to review that. So that is a proper description of what happened. Just kind of them for me. What the shocks is, how the war is willing to the 9 general side. And these, the us position is very big. Clearly impose that because youre leaving country, the country was leading daniel affiliation with, you know, mean yes and right, john refutes consistently do recognize the risk of general site and that promote that date. When you talk member you, when your age, you know, want to talk about general side, okay. One, want to mention the war because it will require actually its not just a legal problem, right . The what . The general general cyber glut prevention and banishment. Its to that you were already warning about genocide back in august, misto counsel when the court or what there was a brocade on the court over there. But just, i just want it to come back on the question of ethnic cleansing. Also because our media has been using this a lot to describe whats happening. Our media says this, this is ethnic cleansing, azerbaijan insisting that people right now, not being forced out of the n k that theyre actually leaving voluntarily. What kind of actions precisely do you think are taking place that could perhaps be seen as being labeled as ethnic cleansing know, thousands leading a going to kind of box each day . Is it glaringly obvious to you that ethnic cleansing is taking place right now . Right. Is obviously the same thing. I need some excuse this or by jen goldman saying, oh its very awesome. They were bombing them and they were starving. But that for months is abilities and credit is eating thing so that the media kind of repeat that. Oh, theyre saying that, oh other, but i mean you have faith in the green thing about and say no, theyre leaving buttons that lead. Thats it. No. First or yeah, fortunately, even yet is throwing basically everybody just drawing the group for me and not gotten a call back. Its at the same thing. I genocide my the most important label is genocide because any grand thing is just wor, no gotten sick when foot in the tennessee is the time they said to kansas, how many pieces youve got these are the punk, these other tenants like combat insurance, right . So again, its like its a companion, require us russia friends to prevent genocide. So genocide requires action, right . As you say, genocide requires actions, but as you said, yourself many countries a remaining notice would be quiet about whats happening right now. Are you hopeful that we could get an agreement . Uh, you know, i like reading to national view, international action, the Security Council resolution perhaps on this matter. No, we, we didnt notice solution. We dont need any of the solution. We need that me the asking the believe it. Why you long call the general side. What is the general side . The king is naked, please, the king is negative. Then we have to repeat that i. Then you have time. My friend, these are 5 to 5. Im percent here of any quincy know what the fee happening today after the bomb. Im the west tower per month. I did go to the general side not just in, in the cleansing. So whats the is, what is it . How should it then to get get action from the International Community . What would you like to see happen in a little bit . I think the 1st thing is to recognize genocide because the denial of genocide produce that that on september 19. But pressed in the same day, but then by then was all put in the General Assembly a better idea of going. So may the general side in front of the entire war. I know one thing that ford would you believe youve got reasons for example, you got a reason for or i mean theres on you done the what is the 9 . No meaning in general, 5 in 2023. Im the media should not be part of the the night or the media should try to is it why we are not talking now identify that some of these havent reads of general side stage should prevent how they kind of saw the reeves seen when we have different learning st. Johns degree or the specific orientation on general side, i might said the beginning of what the telling them is. The general side coming on the problem is not just the boss now is the 2nd genocide coming again kind of meaning. Its not just in the box and it took a long time for that 1915 Armenian Genocide to be recognized as such by, by the us as you know yourself. Thank you very much. Me so comfortable for taking the time to speak to us. Police moreno counsel is former prosecutor of International Criminal course. Joining us now from washington, a french more head on this. 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