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were really happy about this. they were hoping that this would change the time people have been dying civilians are displayed, the military has been struggling to fight a g. insurgency and the population just that they're fed up with the government. and really, really hoping that haven't military and young military in charge of the country will change the situation. so people seem optimistic, but of course they said these guys need to show a track record what they were. so what i was hearing from people is that they expect them to be honest and have integrity and to really fight and that they think having military people in charge at a time right now will be the key. however, the military has been ill equipped there under train, and they have been struggling to stem this insurgency. they say that they can't fight, did you? how did they use guerrilla warfare tactics that you had at the military, which is not used to fighting, is really having a hard time attacking them. they're spreading their growing so, right. so it'll, it'll really be it or it's sort of like wait and see right now in terms of whether this will change anything or not, at least 8 football fans have been killed at an africa combination game in cameroon . they were crushed in a stamp as they tried to enter the stadium outside the capital one day. a new shipment of aid from the u. s. is a right then ukraine. the pentagon says it's also put 8 and a half 1000 troops on high alert. this comes with fears, continue to grow of a possible russian invasion of ukraine. in some cases, some of these forces were already on a heightened posture, readiness to deploy posture, and the secretary decided to make it even more short term even more. so in some cases, units would go from say, 10 days prepared to deploy. now there at 5 days for us and authorities of added jailed, crumbling, critical accent of only in some of his allies, to which the list of terrorists and extremists, moscow band of all these political network as extreme as last year during a sweeping crack down. police in london have opened an investigation into government events held during corona virus lockdown. it comes as the u. k. prime minister faces new allegations. he attended rule breaking parties and re 7 times more on the investigation from london. precedent. dixie, metropolitan police commissioner has been coming under pressure over being equitable about sir gatherings. parties during the suspicious, specifically, the 1st lockdown in 2020, and others. now the has been confirmation by herself before the police and crime committee of the london authority. she said that all parties are being looked at in downing street investigated and evidence has been presented by the capitalist office. now that is likely to be the senior civil servants inquiry. su gray into the parties and that has been confirmation bats. one of the parties being investigated was unknown until now and that was a birthday party, a very brief one that has to be said in the a cabinet room on june 19th in 2020. and that was said to have been organized by the communist of wife, that is being denied by dominic street, which is mounting a major defense campaign to try to keep abhorrence johnson's position safe. but this latest moved by the police is certainly going to be negative in terms of his prospects for holding on to the job. to 1000000 people in beijing had been order to get tested for coven. 19. the decision came after a series of outbreaks ahead of the winter olympics next week. those in beijing neighborhoods considered high risk for infection, have been told not to leave their city. and those are the headlines on al jazeera up next is al jazeera corresponds, and thanks for watching bye bye for now. ah ah ah, i'm james gannon, a news editor for al jazeera. i grew up in this house in virginia, in the southern united states. my childhood here was a happy one. my family weren't rich, but we were comfortable. oh, i was particularly close to my grandmother, mary hamilton lee. it was she the told me about my li, family history. my most famous ancestor, general robert lee, led the confederate army against the union during the american civil war in the mid 19th century. i was proud that this man considered one of virginia's greatest heroes, was a relative. i wasn't told that he fought to defend slavery. ah, on the 12th of august 2017, these pictures of racial hatred in charlottesville in virginia were particularly shocking. the cause at white supremacists were rallying around, was the preservation of a statue of my ancestor. property li. i felt outraged that my family name was associated with the k k. k and neo nazis. what happened in charlottesville made me consider for the 1st time, the true legacy of my slave owning ancestors. i want to know why people in my home state of virginia are so divided on the subject of confederate monuments and what they represent. and i want to find out how much the oppression of enslaved people by my ancestors, has had an impact on black lives in america. today. what i'm told will at times make me deeply uncomfortable. but these conversations for me are long overdue leg bow ah saw ah, richmond, virginia is the former capital of the confederacy. the 11 southern states that fought the union in the american civil war. ah, the statue of my ancestor, robert e. lee is one to 5 confederate statues on monument avenue, the grandest street in richmond. it stands 18 meters tall and dominates the cities landscape. for over a 100 years, richmond has honored lee as one of its greatest heroes. until recently, in 2015, 9 black churchgoers and south carolina were shot by a white supremacist. the killer was photographed with a confederate flag, a symbol for races of white supremacy. soon after the city council in new orleans voted for their confederate statutes to be removed. the state of louisiana was once a major center for the slave trade in richmond, many of the public consultations took place in virginia, which once had the largest and slave population and america in richmond, the debate over the monument avenue statues was heated. now is the time for us to tear down participation trophies for the losing side of a war you loss already with. let's remember today after the war league it only could to help reconcile and rebuild relationships to a north and south. how can anyone say this gray leader is a symbol of hay and evil in whites the printer free? what additional statute would you like to see? well, no, my hadn't better memorial in august, so i won't say any money on there for any of the right. oh no, i want to know why opinions and richmond are so deeply divided by us. how are you? glad to say that martha rawlins is also a cousin of robert lee. you know, yet you look like a a. do i? yeah. on a horse. yeah. really know a martha helps run the richmond chapter of an organization named coming to the table after it was set up to help realize one of the dreams of doctor martin luther king junior. that the children of former slaves and slave owners would one day sit down together at the same table. it, i think just the action of bringing 2 people together. they don't go to the same church. they don't shop in the same place and don't live in the same neighborhood and don't look alike. i say, there we'll leave and go out in public. we are the, the marching pair here we've been on every civil rights and woman's march. there is even just seeing us to gather models, what is possible that in itself, i know some people say that's really small, but i think is huge coming to table, which is to heal the lines of the what the legacy of enslavement really is out onward vision go on purpose 1st. reg is uncovering in and teaching truth in history . yeah. any one will give you a lot of homework. i mrs. martin avenue and martha waste no time in starting her 1st lesson on the true history of the american civil war. okay. next one coming to is on jefferson davis. so jefferson davis was the president of the confederacy. won't you need to read what's written on his money, martin? it's, it's appalling. the words on the statute paid for by the daughters of the confederacy, gives a now discredited view of history that the civil war was not fought to defend slavery, but a heroic struggle to preserve the southern way of life from northern interference. what is that was that you told me that so it says not to injure any section of the country, not even for our own pecuniary benefit, but the high and solemn motive of defending and protecting the rights we inherited, which it is our duty to transmit. on shore and to our children, what rights we inherited were the right to own slavery. and i was taught and still good. we were not defending slavery. we were just defending ours self from the northern aggression. well that's why next we visit the statue of our common ancestor. it's very painful to remember the legacy of enslavement. the great grandmother was 2nd catherine her lab anyway. so as painful, it's painful to know. families not perfect, right? for our queen. i would, i would take some day on the defense of slavery was not something to be honored. gary flowers is a local radio host and custodian of black history in richmond. and he wants to show me a statue that he fought to get erected in 2017. so this is mrs. maggie lena walker, born to an enslaved mother. maggie walker was the 1st black woman to charter a bank in the united states, the saint luke penny savings, bank statues, say to the community and say to the world, this is someone who's vaulted and put on a on a literal pedestal. that is a woman to be honored and that is a woman to be memorialized. so that's what is so disheartening and despicable about the confederate statutes because they fought for slavery, sedition, secession, and racial segregation. and so those are not honorable virtues for which to fight, nor are they americans. there is no other country on the planet that honors in statuary, the losers of a civil war, and so forth. my ancestors who were burned, beaten, brutalize, raped by confederates and confederate thinkers. that is a constant symbol to me. the confederate statute that we are now honoring a dishonorable man and a dishonorable cause in a dishonorable confederacy. to statues mean some there are others in richmond who are adamant, the statues should remain. the organisation, sons, of confederate veterans, has spent tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to prevent the removal of statues in charlottesville and elsewhere. i. mr. morehead, mr. gannon, andrew morehead to meet you? yes sir. welcome to richmond in hollywood cemetery. i might have told you i'm a relative of robert e. lee. absolutely. and with a beard, with a reddish beard. you look more like jim stuart. but that's excellent. let's take a look at a few things. okay, great. these are the dead from gettysburg. we visit the confederate section of the cemetery with the graves of around 2000 soldiers who died in gettysburg. a battle lost by robert e. lee in 18. 63. it was arguably the turning point in the war. heavy casualties around 50000 soldiers from both sides died in that battle. there are a lot of people that feel that those statues need to come down. when you look at these monuments just on a pure abstract view, they're beautiful works of art. beautiful works of art. and then you've got the military brilliance of robert e lee, which is still studied by military theory today. the passion for this issue, we as the sins of confederate ancestors, they are our family we revere the fact that we feel, in our opinion, they fought for noble cause to over throw it overbearing federal government. would you want any body to talk badly about your family? just the notion of family, you know, brings up a lot of emotions in me. but at the same time, if there is a member of one's family, that is doing something that you don't agree with. you have a responsibility on for them. sure. and we're responsible for the legacy of our ancestors as far as telling the truth. as we see it robbery, lee didn't say i'm going to fight for slavery. no, what he said is i cannot turn my sword against virginia. so that tells you that the war was not about slavery. there are some things we're not gonna agree on. sure, i appreciate your time and i've given you our, your point of view. absolutely. now edgers view that the civil war wasn't primarily fought to preserve, slavery has been debunked by the vast majority of scholars. i'm curious to find out why so many millions of virginia still believe hello mr. canon treasure? this can literally christy coleman is an expert on the american civil war and had the museum in richmond specially devoted to the subject. sir christie, here we are a 150 years after the civil war. oh, it seems like a lot of the history and perspectives are still unsettled, though. why is it still such a hot button to day? i think part of the reason is that we've spent a 150 years lying to each other about what this war was about. we spend a 150 years lying and trying to reinforce the lie. and the truth is, and i had daughters of the confederacy there, historian of the organizational woman, by the name of notary rutherford makes it hor, business to frame the narrative that must be in every school or textbook. and if it's not there, she tells the you must reject it from your home, and you must reject it from your school. and that's exactly what they do. so he wonder why america has such a divergent view about this. so it was crafted that way, the way i see it is that robert a lead fought for slavery, and that's what the civil war was about. but i'm along the way, you know, i've heard an alternate opinion. the reality is men, women, and children were bought and sold from their families by lee. okay, at arlington. and in the other properties that you know, he comes from a family that 4 generations has bought and sold human beings this way. but i'm convinced that the weight of his choices um the death tolls in the casualties being so high, i think, weighed on his soul. and i think that that is why he was so in his last years was so adamant to tell others don't put up statues, don't re live this. let's just let's just be you have the intensity that i see and his image is within your eyes. i really, i think that might be a family trait. it's probably just a beard. maybe i could see what people think i look like is good for ah, my own views that the statue should be removed because it glorifies a shameful cause. the fight to preserve slavery over 700000 soldiers died in the american civil war. the equivalent of 7000000 to day. i guess it gives me some small comfort to know that my ancestor also didn't want any monument to this dark period in our history. it's time for me to face up to the sins of my ancestors. this church and peters vill maryland was built by black people. my ancestors in slave. ah, my grandmother used to bring me here as a child. ah, i've come to see 2 of her friends. i've known them since i was young, lord, have mercy. laura may almighty god have mercy on us to give us our sins and bring us to have her last. the loin, clarice, and estelle are both descendants of the people, my family enslaved. i want to know how they feel about that. it's not something my family ever discussed. oh yeah. all right. i feel uncomfortable about bringing up the subject of enslavement. i don't want to upset them fun. clarice, i'm, i'm wondering if you could tell me about the picture on this book here. this is my mom. mel anderson. and i'm clever, is this. and she was a nurse of this little girl. and mom's mother used to work for the lease. so your mom's mother was born in slave by the movie fan. yeah. right. oh tower. howard see he was a slave. my great grandfather of the li property. i feel kind of strange about that. so i'm wondering how, how you feel about that. i just live in a present time and i know that i can go anywhere i want to go and do anything i want to do. and i don't have to bow down to nobody. she bets me in this present time and that's where i am. what i wanted to do was go on the journey that where i'd figure out what i can do to make sure that you know, we don't start slipping backwards. you should just try to make sure that you treat people right. don't don't harbor thinking about what your great great grandfather did. i don't, i am no hard feelings with you, but i'm proud that you wanna do something, but make sure you do something. yeah, i don't know what you're gonna do. if. if you win the lottery, you can give me a couple dollars. okay. i could do that. but other than that, yeah, i hope we've gone down there to get your help you in, in your endeavor and if you really have it, i hope i have because i think you got a wonderful family. ah, i feel humbled that is still in clarice don't hold any grudge against my ancestors for what there's in dirt, but i want to honor their call to action. i need to know how much closer we are to racial equality and in my great grandfather's death, baltimore, the largest city and maryland. it's just one hour away. it has a population of 3000000 with a high proportion to more black. in 2015, there were st. protests in baltimore, triggered by the death of a 25 year old black man. freddie grey spine was severed while in police custody. no officer was ever convicted i meet up with kwame, rose a young, political activists who hit the headlines during the protest. kwame was film berating a well known tv host for failing to report the underlying race related issues. viewing the unrest. i want you in boxes to get out of baltimore signal, right? because you're not, you're reporting about the board, the board of all. what's you're here with the black, right? you said you think things are, are better, they any better. we have a white supremacist, an office now may be just as bad as robert e. lee was. donald trump promotes and praise on the races. ideologies that existence out of american society. we black people built this country from on our hands are blood sweat, tears, and we haven't got one out of compensation, reparation, or even acknowledgement of the contribution we did. what is it that i should know about baltimore, where people should know about baltimore, is that we are majority black population. 63 percent black. most of our elected officials of black. yet the disparity between income between white families and black families is still one of the highest in america. this is fellows point slaves, very white neighbourhood. kwame wants to show me that even after racial segregation officially ended, baltimore is still divided into rich white and poor black areas. i eat here. i you know, drink here. i'm actually that rest of my right there. during opening day of the baseball season, i was actually called the nigger. there i come here knowing that me being here is kind of a disruption to like the everyday whiteness. i love doing that. i love making people uncomfortable with my presence. you see the way the police patrols certain blocks, so there's a neighborhood as a way to protect and you go up a couple blocks up the street. the police are there to enforce. you. can you tell the difference? you can tell the difference because the police here, this is a space where drunken white people are allowed to have a good time be drunk and it's written off up the street. standing on a corner, the police are there. they'll come out and disperse the crowds. if com, right, and there's nothing wrong with that. the fact that the city is 63 percent black and the amount of people represented in certain communities like this aren't here. i'll take you to part of baltimore. pretty great grew up once across the slide, essentially, you'll be able to tell the difference from where we just came from. do you notice all the vacant businesses? they can homes. there are over 30000 vacant homes in baltimore. the majority concentrated in black neighborhoods. ah, the inequality and wealthier start 3 times more black people than white live below the poverty line. and blacks are 4 times more likely to be unemployed. this is america, or just nation in the world, right? this is going more homes. this is where a pretty great lived so this is a neighborhood flooded with poverty, inadequate public housing, lack of opportunity in jobs for pretty pretty much have you're born in this community. you're stuck here. most kids i grew up in poverty, baltimore city. don't have the chance to leave with them fall blocks there where they were born at really 5 block. what's the situation with the police? yes. you can be someone like for lando castille, who had a weapon that was legally purchased and still killed, even though he followed all the rules. you can be afraid, gray, who ran away as so many examples of black people who did nothing wrong, but just were killed because like ice cream said their skin was their sin. in the united states, black people are 3 times more likely than whites to be killed by the police. how do we make sure these people in gilmer homes, have the same access to quality of life that the people are fells point her? well, it seems to me like before we can fix anything. we have to acknowledge the truth of the situation. more than acknowledgement, there has to be some type of compensation as if we're truly the greatest nation on earth. then the people who made the greatest contributions should have access to the quality of life for those who oppressed them and slave those wristbands. i've never really taken the idea of reparation seriously before, but meeting with kwame has made me reconsider. i need to learn more about the inequality, the black people continue to experience. i'm ready to face more uncomfortable truths. our coverage of africa is what i'm most proud of. every time i travel bay, whether it see 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headlines. it's back to al jazeera correspondence. next, ah, and in baltimore, maryland, black people are 3 times more likely than white to be living in poverty. i want to know what that means for the people living in. brick fontaine works for the city. he grew up in a public housing project and has been helping disadvantaged youths in baltimore for over 10 years. and then donal heights or projects is primarily black. okay. out of the, you know, thousands of people who may be like 10 white people that live in the projects is no resources yet us. if you haven't saw store yet, oh somebody did. they call me now. hi. so for my household, this james james, for when i missed the roof of the soldiers, somebody killed squeegee and they earned money that way, but a lot of kids on they sell bottle waters and bottled drinks for a dollar. i mean one more bottle. thank you. thank you. he, he, with the legal house was all right, lieberman sometimes i just poor kids off corners. i mentor them, help them. good job. rick takes me to the parking lot. were demonte howard a youth mentored was shot dead just 2 months before a lot of the drugs an activity happens right here in this parking lot. and this is where unfortunately, a lot of homicides and robberies take place. c, r i p diesel baby that was the amante's nickname. his mother was struggling a single mom, 3 children by herself. and he did the fastest thing to help her. and that was get involved with the drug tree here. he was just getting enough to help his mom and some guy from another neighborhood came here to rob them and ended up killing them . really good kid though man, he always was trying to do better. we got amend our wilberforce college and the day we were supposed to present him with his certificate to go to college. he was, he was murdered right here. really sorry to hear it. this is the prison was elbows. will you been a man? i miss my own boy, it's a good. do we just gotta survive? what would you like for this community? all these kids take them out. the trips? spurious mold, so it's all in, all right, it's no. it was on the side of the van bomb main like idea. it's a data speech you about those are trouble were yell out the from somebody. these kids feel like they're forced to do that to survive. they're not doing it to be driving mercedes in bentley's and things like that. they're doing it because if i don't do this, i won't eat tonight. people in these neighborhoods are not asking for anything but opportunity. the same equal playing field that the rest of america is. are, you know, this is my was over. which neither of them see how you doin. so there's a, this is james to lose the child. it hurts. you know, i always see how, you know, i've been, you know, to lose and everything and how, you know, they, everybody feel so safe for parents reduce their baby and especially to the street. and then now, hey, i am i one of them. i'm so sorry for your long. thank you so much. thank you. i appreciate it was. there were 343 homicides in baltimore in 2017. more than 90 percent of these people were black color. shan wallace is a baltimore photographer who uses a craft to combat racial stereotyping. so i use photography as a form of activism like black labs matter, and this will we are and this is, will we are outside of they gaze of whiteness. this guy right here, i see blackman saying he had a chance all the time, but i see how the world continues to perpetuate that these moments moments like this don't happen. sometimes i photograph black men, and by time i have the photograph printed ready, give it to them. they blocked up. yeah, this home. i went back to go give him a copy that he dawson time. we've indoors so much pain in have these moments where we'd have anybody to tell you know, but a lot of people tell me about those moments when i take their photograph and talk about our trauma and talk about the injustice. we go to what can i do? what can wipe people do to kind of shift the way that they think? oh, i think that for white people, his thoughts were just simply caring about black people and, and, and envisioning. ah maury, equal society allies. i don't think that an allied job is to go in and dictate and tell people what to do and give directions is listen and say and take notes. mm jan has arranged a photo shoot in the area of baltimore where she grew up. mm. she photographs, her brother does men and cousin quality in front of 2 generations of qualities. families to live on the street ah, does meant quality, have serve time in prison, one and 3 black men in the u. s. has a felony conviction who i just came home for service 6 years prism been brought up in his community. i heard that i was i was forced to come outside and had this bob and try to provide away from our grandmother. my in my mother, eunice, i am a little brother by we we forced into this. we don't have an option with him. his name? probably the 4th of the vom m street. and basically, you know, we're deborah deborah britain. oh fit if my kid is gone without pay, if i would though, i'm not even. this is the i can bring my son up out as commanding my family, my whole family stuck in this community when he looked back across the generations . the advantages that white people have put in position for themselves and over black to the and the disadvantages i might be was wanting to see why you shouldn't have a bed up during the me. i don't think so, but as hard in as like him and then think about his fall and then his follow it always was this event, right. so for black person be successful is re tell me the truth. i get mad sometimes bang about it, but i try not to bang about them. we just want to boys more from our to put the spotlight will not give us a little bit of help. and then let us determine what we want to do with the help, but we don't head out a tune some over. so score we have a scale to speed. drought does a surprise they, we for trade is as if we cool would we not? we so scored that we only will speak out because we afraid of them next. first of all. okay. guys, i can take this with me and i'll try and transfer that myself. i mean, i came here to listen and to learn, you know, and it seems like such a small thing just to hear these stories is, is not small because quality he, he got emotional. and even my brother got emotional because now have people listen it, you know, like, people really felt like it now matter. we don't really talk about it because it happened so much is not news is not new quality. i know he bit witness ada stuff or ro long time. he got kids. he got a family, you know, and they all in, in poverty. his dad is still living in poverty. these, this is not the dream for us. ah, i later discovered that the continuing existence of rich white neighborhoods and poor black neighborhoods in baltimore is not accidental, but a legacy of decades of deliberate racial discrimination. in the mid 19th thirty's, the u. s. government was encouraging people to buy their own homes by offering federal loans. however, most black people were systematically refused mortgages. in addition, government and financial institutions drew up maps disqualifying some areas for subsidies. red line zone, usually defined as neighborhoods were black people. ah, this deliberate denial is equal opportunities for black people to buy real estate is a major reason for the wealth gap between blacks and whites that exist today. my efforts to educate myself in america's hidden history, lead me to to academics who have spent years researching the racial wealth gap in america and the reasons for it. hello, i am james. hi, james. i'm sandy. good person. what does that inequality look like? in the aftermath of the civil war, blacks may have owned less than one percent of the american wealth. what's particularly striking and disturbing about the figure is that if we look at the comparable measure today, it's about 2 percent. so we have a wealth position for black americans to day that in a relative sense is not very different from what it was at the end of slavery. is there an unpaid debt that is still owed to, to buy people in america? yes, the estimates can run as high as 17 trillion dollars. there was an opportunity to reverse the consequences of slavery. instead, 4000000 slaved folk never received the 40 acres and a mule that they were promised. if that type of land reform it actually taken place . it would have completely altered the trajectory of wealth and equality by race in the united states. we got the destruction of black communities that had developed some measure of prosperity through white massacres. that took place from the period of about 1880 up through about 1940 i. the midwestern community of greenwood in tulsa, oklahoma was the most affluent black community in america, with over 300 black on businesses known as black wall street. in may 921. the whole 35 block neighborhood was obliterated by a white mob, triggered by a false rumor that a black man had raped a white girl, homes, businesses, schools, and churches were burned and bar. and over 100 people died. one massacre after another and just sort of rolled across the country. all of these riots were thousands of black people were killed. if you study history, you see that this has been a continuous, a continuous assault on by people. yeah. we, we think there, there is a giant that, oh and, and we think it needs to be met because i think it is a just response to american sister it. my family's in status and wealth, as says, has been, has benefited from, from my, their, their choice to enslaved people. the total number is staggering. of white, so owned at least one black body. yeah. it would have been at least half when at least had up a white population. i actually, i met recently the descent descendants of one of the people my family enslaved, and found out that i had actually known this woman estella was 90 years old. now most of my life, what is her full name? i her name is her. i'm sorry, i'm blanking on her last name. estella. oh, it's telling him that she's many years you're senior. and yet you referred to her by her 1st name. there it is right there. i mean, i don't mean any disrespect to check. well, apparently no one else in your family has referred to her by any other lo. refer or re correct? oh yeah, yeah. yeah. now you're absolutely right. i think it probably made both of us uncomfortable in our free for you to to call me out there. i may remember maybe not maybe not so but yeah ah, i had no idea that the wealth gap between whites and blacks is still so huge to day . sandy and kirsten have convinced me that the case for reparations is overwhelming . i wonder if more white americans would agree with me if they knew how much of their wealth advantage is stolen and honored. i'm in houston, texas to meet a group of people whose views i'd like to understand black separatist. oh, the new black panther party has been described is a barely racist organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites and police. yeah. can and been yeah, one of its former leaders is now chairman of a new organization, the people's new black panther party that claims to disavow hatred. oh, is it right here you, you should the one thing bargain i grew up in virginia. oh, yeah. i've shak hands before the right. yeah. i don't own any myself. right. really? yeah, you know all in a good while in virginia anymore. or little bit. the panthers are planning a patrol in the south west of the city where there have been some recent shooting. yeah, you read romance, all right. we don't like the police coming to town with neighborhoods patrol in our neighborhood to so we should give an example of how we can be self determining the police out here, killing our, you know, people on a home and we will patrol in our own neighborhood. we wouldn't have these situations occur. so yeah, we have a message of separation. we don't want to continue to live with white america hitting mo, it hasn't worked out. we've tried everything we've worked, we've served we've big, you know, full equal rights and we continue to be in the same situations. all right, so this is the group for tonight. how you know, of you know, dinner diane is going on with our people that will want to call to police on one another stuff like that. when we're dealing with young boys these days in the household with single mothers and things like that. we have a number. yeah. yeah, yeah, i'm a number now. so that's what we do. have i have a couple whole it real to me joe. that is like, is it available? but it seems like when you come out here, people are pretty interested in what you're doing. you know, we come out in the community and people seals. it excites one course. he'll go to co leesville. yeah, we got a call on here. so we honestly, i would always help relate that, go on all we told within our legal rights. we're not doing that wrong. we're all right. you have a good day. all right, all right, we're going to do a quick safety check. 6 is open care state long as you're having to fill in these on your record or anything like that. okay, for your local carriers, leading the u. e. p. newton gun club is the defense arm of the party. there's a lot of different ways to, to fight racial and injustice right. why do you think, you know, armed patrols is the way to go. we had bustling black towns and we were very strong economically. what will happen was we lack the weapon and we're gonna have to defend ourselves. and there's, that's the bottom line of self defense. what role do you think white people have in, in working towards more equality? a lot of people are afraid to say it is a word, reparations. a bad word is going to be associated with things like welfare and government handouts and stuff like that is not a government handout. i think reparations as well over do. let's go ahead and move out on a few weeks ago. ma tray has called for compensation. may have surprised me, but i'm starting to notice a pattern amongst a diverse range of activists. oh sure, it's all right. oh sure. oh wow. wow. wow. wow. wow. wow. wow. wow, wow. as a white person, i'm way out of my comforts. oh, good of people. i don't agree with their separate is message in our patrols, but i don't feel any hatred from go to black the wrong. oh. so just to be clear, those those views hate against whites anti some anti semitism. you don't identify with that? no, no, we're a different organization. we're on the different leadership. oh, with mad a hate group. we don't hate anybody. our way actions show we don't have anybody. so how do you feel about the our deal both want to live separate? do you think will i totally out about mine? will you think we can all get along? i, i've got hope that we can get along. you know, especially if white people are gonna come around to the idea of reparations and, you know, trying to make a more fair, an equal society. because if this doesn't change at some point, is now going to be pretty, is going good bad to a point to where we big and at some point race was when we end up breaking up and dust upon double store and the get so mad is given hopeless, nothing is change in. hopefully you see i'm coming from a good place and i just won't was best for my children and my grandchildren is coming after me. we'll look them in. i think there's a couple things that we don't agree on, but i think i'm start to understand where you're coming from or i hope we both learn some things always try to take days away from the conversation like bow ah, not far from houston is where the last american slaves were finally freed. in 1865 . it's depressing to realize that after a 150 years, some black people feel so let down that they think separation is their only option . making a difference seems almost impossible. but i am determined to do something with a denita a see you. thank you for coming. denita invites me to the national gathering of coming to the table where this year steam is reparations. over the next 2 days, i attend several discussions on what white people can do to help these range from scholarship funds for african americans to tips on how to talk to other white people about racial inequality. the conference gives me a lot of good ideas to take away. there's someone from the coming to the table gathering that i want to hate again, james stephen. i need to apologize for something thoughtless. i said earlier. yeah, yes, i meet up with steven at a historic house in harrisonburg virginia stephens trying to raise the funds to save it. of the hands that constructed his whole were hands that will formerly held in bondage we were talking and you said, you know, that's what it's like being a black man in virginia. and i said, i could imagine i immediately felt pretty foolish for saying that. no, i don't think you could even imagine i would like to be a black man in the state of virginia. i have to be mindful of every single thing that i say, every single place that i go, every single thing that i do on my body language, my, you know, mannerisms are my tone. i mean, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's not lost upon me that i have never experienced what a truly means to be free. black people in the united states of america aren't anywhere near free. ah, when you consider, ah, that with one false move. that with one of violation of the fragility of the feelings of white people are our very lives could be taken away from us and ended in an instant. what else can you know, a white person like me do? i want you to see on that, despite the best efforts of your ancestors despite ah, on the most cunning and conniving and destructive of plots and plans there were devised by your ancestors my ancestors over. okay. what i'm saying is i'm hoping that you can recognize then that we are equal ah, because there was a time not that long ago, but where your people didn't see mind that way. i think it's up to people such as yourself and myself as together to share the whatever is necessary to may, shall we don't perpetuate these lies. would you agree? absolutely. mama cannot agree why i am. could you fall asleep? on the last night of the national gathering, denita asked me to join her at the james river in richmond to walk the same trail as her and slave ancestors. with bank both lived in the shadows of bondage and at the legacy. i made the leg folklore society or staging a reenactment, specially for coming to the table. deli pi oh, africans captured trade. it dragged from their mother land and the odour after $910.00 weeks at sea. so offensive this concealed cargo, disembarked only at night to the crack of the whip in the shadows and shame them ha! is all mine me. ha, ha ha! oh what i did your mouth shut? no head. now let's go. oh, oh, oh, for over an hour i want the same dirt path that hundreds of thousands of the slave africans were forced to follow them. go as i think about the magnitude of their suffering and sacrifice, i feel a deepened sense of shame and sorrow that their descendants have never received a formal apology or a penny and compensation from the u. s. government. so that was really intense. it was absolutely humbling on and i just kept thinking about everything that had been taken away from the people that arrived on the shores and how there is no way that that could ever be given back to them. i decide to join the fight for reparation. not just because of my ancestors, but because morally it's the right thing to do. all of us must take responsibility for repaying the vast debt. owed to black people so that future generations can finally have an equal share of the opportunities and wealth of this nation. it works ah ah, look forward to really, to scully's, the with sponsored by counsel at ways. let's go with your weather story for the americas. hello, everyone. good to see you. we've got an intensive, fine disturbance in the gulf of mexico. this is going to douse florida with rain and i think we will see some flooding here. over the past 24 hours, toronto picked up about 6 centimeters of snow. that shield of snow has now moved to the u. s. northeast and the canadian maritime provinces. after the west, we go and a cold weather alert in play for when it pay got mine. it's 22. and it's no surprise when you look at these numbers by night time feeling minus 40, with the windshield, we got whether whiplash here you're going from minus 22 to a high, 0 on wednesday, and right back into the freezer on thursday, us west coast. it's calm here, we do have some snow role enough, the rockies into colorado, and that's moving further toward the east and for central america, that disturbance in the gulf of mexico. it's going to kick back some weather around the bay of can patching heavy falls to be expected for ecuador as capital. keep. so and to the south, we've had more record breaking here. this is the northeast of argentina. pretty close to about $41.00 degrees that will continue on tuesday. and these storms still stuck around the river plate region. it's been raining non stop for the past week in the month of the dale area that you're up the season. ah, the weather sponsored by katara always. ah, ah, ah all ah, this is al jazeera ah! here watching that is our life from a headquarters and del high and setting up a gauge are coming up in the next 60 minutes. france condemns the crew and burkina faso emanuel. my call says he's been assured the deposed president is in good health and not being threatens police in the u. k. say they'll investigate gatherings held at the prime minister's office off the reports of parties during locked down russia ad.

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