we've worked very closely with allies and partners to begin to plan for the reinforcement of nato itself on its eastern flank, in the event of further russian aggression against ukraine. all of these things to make clear to, to russia, the costs and consequences of, of his potential actions. we think that's the best and most effective way to convince russia not to engage in further aggression against ukraine. ukraine is a very valued partner of the united states and other countries in europe as well. but our article 5 commitment extends to nato allies. something that we are deeply committed to ukraine is not, not a member of nato, not covered by the article 5 commitment, but a determination to do everything we can to, to defended and to prevent or to sure aggression directed toward it. and as i said, we will continue all of those efforts in the coming days and coming weeks, even as we test whether the path to a diplomatic resolution is possible. i'm sorry, the 1st part of the question dialogue in the president. yes. what we've agreed today is that we will share in writing next week our our ideas, our response to concerns that russia's raised concerns that we have, that we will share, again in writing with russia. we intend, based on the conversation today, based on that that paper as well as the paper we received from russia to have follow on conversations after that. initially, at least at the level of foreign ministers. and if it proves useful and productive for the 2 presidents to meet to, to talk, to engage, to try to carry things forward. i think we're fully prepared to do that. the president biden is a met cure in geneva, with the president. he's spoken to him on the phone or via video conference on a number of occasions. and if we conclude the russians conclude that the best way to resolve things still further conversation between them were certainly prepared to do that. and all right, thank you. i was wondering if, as you keep coming back for more dialogue or talk the russians, they continue to act. they continue to mass tubes, they continue to destabilize ukraine, economically facing the number of hardships you acknowledge the harm. they have already done a just to their aggressive actions and in turn, why would you not consider sanctions at this point, that bipartisan support for them in the us, ukraine, of course, for the why not? and then a 2nd question. you said time and time again to the pretext russia give to that regression and false. there's no basis. in fact, i'm curious if safety a firm is level 6, obviously you look to you in the eye and tell you effectively tells you like your face this. so why human with a response like human with written response is next week. if that's the case 1st, again, we're not waiting to take action to kind of russia. as i said a moment ago, we've committed more security assistance to ukraine in the past year. i think something like $650000000.00 than at any previous time. going back to 2014, when russia and dated invaded ukraine were continued for that assistance. we have additional deliveries that are scheduled in the coming weeks. as i noted, as well, we've been engaged in extensive diplomacy around the world growling allies and partners together in the face of russian aggression against ukraine. yesterday we announced actions against agents of russian influence who are operating in ukraine and who are seeking to destabilize the country. and again, as i said, we've made it clear to russia that they would face swift, severe cos up to their economy. if they move forward with further invasion of ukraine as well as the reinforcement of natal on its eastern fight, we engage in diplomacy and dialogue. that's my, that's my job. but at the same time, we are embarked on the path of defense and deterrence. these things are not mutually inconsistent. in fact, they reinforce each other. so even as we're talking, if the russians are continuing to escalate and to build up, we are continuing to strengthen everything we're doing in terms of the assistance we're providing to ukraine for its defense. in terms of the work we're doing at nato, to prepare as necessary to further reinforce the alliance and continuing to define and refine massive consequences for russia with our allies and partners when it comes to financial, he can amik and other sanctions. so we're, we're doing both at the same time. now, when it comes to the conversations we have, i think the charitable interpretation would be that sometimes we in russia had different interpretations of history. and i have to say today we certainly heard things that we strongly disagree with in terms of, in terms of that history. but by and large, the conversation was not political. it was a direct business like. and i think in that sense, useful and it's important to test whether we can again resolve these differences through diplomacy and dialogue. that's clearly the preferable way to do it. it's clearly the responsible way to do that, but it's also up to rush. we'll take final questions from long or a television. yes, i wanted to to talk about the measures that can be taken to de escalate the situation. you mentioned them on both sides. if you can specify them again and tell us an idea of the timeline, how soon would happen, which comes 1st bigger picture, what do you think the criminal ones to this current situation? well, that last question is probably best address to president putin. because in a sense, only he really knows, and i'll come back to that in a minute. but again, as i was saying earlier, i think that as we've looked at what russia has put forward, as we've listened to what they said, as we've consulted intensely among allies and partners, as we've looked at our own deep security concerns about actions that russia takes not only with regard to ukraine, but in other places and by other means in europe and beyond. i think it is fair to say that there are areas where we believe we can pursue a dialogue and diplomacy to see if we can find ways to address mutual security concerns on a reciprocal basis that would enhance security for everyone. for, for us, for our european allies and partners and for russia. and again, as i suggested earlier, transparency, confidence, building measures, military exercises, arms control agreements. these are all things that we've actually done in the past . and that if a address seriously can, i believe reduce tensions and address some of some of the concerns. but again, that remains to be seen. whether we can do that in a meaningful way. and again, it depends, i think, on, on what russia actually wants. that is, that is the right question. and here's what, what, what is striking to be, and i share this with foreign minister lever off today. i asked him from russia's perspective to really try to explain to me to us how it is they see the actions they've taking, they've taken as advancing their stated security interests and their broader strategic interests. because as i said to, to minister labor off so many of the things that you've done in recent years have precipitated virtually everything you say you want to prevent. before russia invaded ukraine in 2014 season, crimea going into the the dive us brushes. favorability ratings in ukraine were 70 percent. now, the 25 or 30 percent before 2014. before they went and seized crimea and went into the dumbass support and ukraine for joining nato was $25.00 or 30 percent. now it's, it's 60 percent before 2014, we had been continuing on the path of continuing to reduce all at the same time strengthening our forces in europe since the end of the cold war. well, what happened after 2014 is nato felt the obligation because of russian aggression to reinforce its eastern flag. and since 2014 our efforts over many years to convince allies and partners to increase defense spending. well, that's succeeded, but i have to say as much because of russia and the actions is taken as because of anything we've done. so, based on russia stated, strategic interests and concerns. how has that, how of their actions advanced those constraints? on the contrary, it's gone in the opposite direction from what russia purports to one. and now if russia renews its aggression against ukraine, the outcome will be to simply reinforce the very things, the very trends that russia expresses a concern about. so i hope that that's something that turn mistral ever off reflects on in the present, put, might reflect on as they think about that, as we said, thank you until he bring him the u. s. secretary of state. they're talking for a good 2025 minutes, sir, telling us what he thinks he'll be taking back to the state department. and of course, to mr. biden. the us, president of the object of going to the talks was see of rushes prepared to go with diplomacy. and dialogue, those 2 words, diplomacy in dialogue, he returned to those that a buzz word phrase 3 times. during that news conference he said the discussions we had to day were frank and substantive. we stand firmly in favor of the sovereignty of ukraine. if any russian forces crossed the border, there will be a reaction. he said it, it will be calibrated, and it will be a robust response. russia must address our concerns. he said, he also said there is no trading space in this process. that was short hand for something that he then went on to flesh out. when he said this was not a negotiation, this was an exchange of views. and towards the end, when he returned that idea of diplomacy and dialogue, he also reiterated something else that he'd mentioned at the top of his address. they're talking about mutual security concerns. kimberly halgert is our white house correspondent, that mutual security concerns. buzzwords. kimberly like transparency in real terms . what does that mean? the u. s. is prepared to do to deescalate the situation? well i think we have to look at this in the context of next steps in terms of what exactly did antony blink and just say they're what he, he said and diploma speak is that he has handed a proposal to the russians. they're going to take a look at it, and then they're going to talk and in the interim, we also understand that entity blinking is going to review with the national security council. what he has taken from the russians. and if either side likes what they see then there is going to be some ability to maneuver and try and work out their security differences. and that is a hopeful sign. what we've seen after a week of discussions and it really weeks and even months of ramping up of this, amassing of russian troops near the ukraine border in this escalation that you heard the u. s. secretary of state talking about has really made not only the west, but the world very nervous that things were becoming on the brink of not being able to go back. but what we're seeing here are some hopeful signs you heard. they're not just from the u. s. secretary of state, but we're also hearing from the russian side, the both sides believe that this was a productive discussion. that there is the opportunity for negotiation. you also heard there that there is the belief that they can go back to their respective leaders on the us side, that would be u. s. president joe biden, on the russian side, of course, that would be president vladimir putin. and that there may even be the opportunity for these 2 leaders to sit down and talk as they have in the past. so this is an opportunity. but the problem in all of this, peter is the devil is in the details and you heard there from anthony blank. and what he was saying there is, there is a real issue between these 2 men. when it comes to the issue of his 3, they both see history very differently, particularly the russian invasion of ukraine, back in 2014 or rather of crimea. oh, what they're saying there is, is that, that is really one of the major friction points that allowed for this escalation, this build up of defenses, this bolstering of nato. and as a result, and then both sides are seeing this as the point of the tipping point. if you will, of aggression, we're russia saying you need to stand down. and the nato and the west and the united states are saying, no, you need to stand down, you started this. and so that is where this problem really lies. who is going to stand down 1st and so this is where we are. each side is saying, ok, we're going to look at what you've written and then we're going to come back. and so it's a waiting game at this point to see if they like what they see on those pieces of paper that they've exchanged. and when it comes to those pieces of paper, kimberly has russia already in one sense, i guess got caught at one to what it wanted from early december last year. and it's reciprocity, not reciprocity when it comes to deals transparency notes of policy. but reciprocity of status that being taken seriously, that being talked to at the highest level and people like mister blinkin and mister biden as to be said, they're signaling. yes, we're hearing you, we're listening to you. we might agree to disagree, but we can work in other areas. you heard that question from one of the reporters, perhaps in the press conference that just wrapped up. the question was, why are you even engaging? you are providing that legitimacy. why not just go ahead with these punishing financial sanctions that you keep dangling. and you heard the answer there because really what alternative is there really, there is no other alternative, some times that you've heard this repeatedly, whether it be dealing with the saudi arabia, whether it be dealing with the iranians. the position of the biden administration is that you don't always have to agree with your opponent to work for a shared set of goals. you even heard there from antennae blink. and just now that they believe that there are some areas where the united states can work with russia . for example, he talked extensively about the opportunity when it comes to iran, he said, but there is a narrow window for the j c. p way that agreement to limit runs nuclear program, that the window of opportunity is rapidly closing. that that box, that had once contained, that program is now open. but there is that opportunity and russia can play a valuable role. that is why the united states and the west have decided not to push forward those sanctions because they feel there is still an opportunity to work together and they don't want to squander that opportunity. kimberly thank you very much. talk to you soon. i'm sure. kimberly hall could join his lie there from the bureau in washington live now to geneva and correspondent who was in the room there. when mister lincoln and mister la ralph, were addressing the wills media that natasha butler, one of the europe correspondence natasha. what do you think the main takeaways will be? what will mister blinking be taking back to washington and mister lap roughly taking back to moscow? well, novels and blinking were actually not in the same room. they were giving a separate her press conferences. maybe that tells you everything that these 2 are still very much a world apart in terms of their positions. it's interesting that a, going into these talks a few hours ago, love of actually started by saying that he did not expect any breakthroughs or blink. and also said that he didn't expect any quick fixes and not they were both right, because they were no breakthroughs. there no were no quick fixes, no big concrete results. what the 2 did agree on though, was that they would pursue dialogue, something that blinkin or just a few moments ago kept saying over again. it's all about trying to see if they can continue to go down. what he calls is part of diplomacy to try and of course, avoid conflict, but splunk and did say that there is no doubt in the u. s. his point of view, the russia is continuing to escalate the situation behind the scenes. if you want to put it that way, amassing trips on the board of ukraine, so doing things that are seen as russian aggression, while at the same time saying it wants to pursue diplomacy. a lever off, of course, would say that the u. s. and western powers are also a being aggressive in their actions or by continuing to try and expand eastwards with nato. so both sides very much, not agreeing but saying they had frank discussions and saying that they will try to a piece pursue diplomacy, both agreeing to write letters to each other next week, setting out what their main concerns are. ok, natasha for the moment. thank you so much that i should be there in geneva. okay. you're watching, especially extended edition of the news are here on al jazeera. we've had 90 minutes, a top flight diplomacy. here on this channel, the russian foreign minister sokulaf off, as we've been hearing from our correspondence saying after that meeting with our antony blink in the u. s. secretary of state that america has a to give a written response to all of russia's proposals. still, ma'am, wouldn't much lou bush at the end of our meeting, we agreed that next week the u. s. has gained to present us with written answers to all of our puzzles. and you also said that in particular that you claim, as no, we presented fed to russia. and i would like to once again remind every phone who analyzes our public state men's and our analysis. and i would like to say that never before has russia designed so it's a visual represent, is the green people to be go, live her to moscow and are corresponded their door cert jabari door. so let's invert our conversation to the next minutes or so can i just ask you to put on your tehran correspondent, head for the next bit of our chat. when they say the window of opportunity is closing. so clearly when it comes to the j. c. p, away the 2015 iran nuclear deal. both sides all sides, realize that something is beginning to maybe slip away from them. there is this sense of urgency, a sense of refreshed realism. what can they do from here on in to get every one back in the same space? well, that is a question deviled. the answer will depend on who you ask. if you ask the radians, they will say it's very straightforward for this deal. the nuclear deal to be revived immediately. they just have to lift the sanctions that they impose on her on since withdrawing from it in 2018. and iran's nuclear program will go back into full compliance under the nuclear deal in real time, a for the americans to lift the sanctions. they would take them a few days basically for the iranians to limit their nuclear program. go back into the compliance under the deal of 2015. it would take them a few weeks at all. that is needed is for the american say yes, we will lift the sanctions and the or any will say, okay, this is how we will verify that process and then step by step, we will go back into full compliance beginning with of course, most likely would be reducing their writ enrichment capabilities, they're currently at 60 percent levels. and under the deal, they're supposed to be at 3.67 percent. that is one of the main points of contention with the americans and the other are signatories of the deal. they claim that there is no purpose civilian use for iran to be at 60 percent of enrichment levels. they're raining, say that is not true and we can enrich to whatever levels we want because we're no longer restricted under this deal. since the u. s. left than has imposed sanctions on all aspects of our economy, including iran's oil and banking sector. you have to remember before those sanctions came into being in november of 2018. iran was opec's, 4th largest producer of oil, is selling nearly $3000000.00 barrels of oil per day. now they're at 1200000 barrels of oil a day in sales. and the other problem they have is receiving the money from the sale of the oil. for example, south korea is one of the countries that is highly dependent on iranian oil. and when those sanctions came into being they were one of the 6 countries that go a special exemption from the u. s. government to continue purchasing their rating oil. even though there were sanctions on it because it couldn't simply cut off of that purchases. so what has happened the since 2018 as the south korean government has held on to the money they're supposed to give to her on and in vienna, there was a delegation from south korea not to long ago where they were discussing with the americans and iranians about how to move forward about releasing the funds that are nearly at now. $7000000000.00. so there is a lot of technical things that can be done very quickly. they range and say the americans are not very serious about returning to full compliance or saving this deal. and they're just buying time. the americans, for their part are saying the same thing about the iranians and that they are really not interested in going back into full compliance. there's a new government in teheran of abraham bracey, a hard liner, and that they are also just stalling and buying time. and will continue to expand and increase their nuclear capabilities in the country, and that is something they cannot accept. and what secretary blinkin was saying that these negotiations in vienna which are now on going on since november 29th. and they cannot go on indefinitely. there has to be a limit set on the time that they can continue talking before they have to make a decision on all sides. it's not just iran on the u. s. that is in this nuclear deal. there is germany, france, u, k, china and russia. so there is a sense that time is running out all sides have to be much more vigilant in terms of what they want to do moving forward and to make some hard decisions. the host of the talks in vienna that you have said difficult decisions have to be made both in teheran and washington in order for there to be some movement on these talks. otherwise, they could go on indefinitely. and that is something certainly the americans are now saying they cannot have. let's talk about ukraine daughter mister lincoln saying, what happens from here on it is contin an on russia, and i could stopping its aggression towards ukraine. clearly mr. oliver offs response was actually, that's not what's on the table. that's not what we're discussing. what we're discussing in his world, i guess, was your aggression in the form of nato expansion right up to the russian border. certainly, and this is part of the russian perspective is that this, there is a sense of false narrative coming from a, the american government. and that they are certainly, as the foreign minister said, they're not interested in invading ukraine. what they're interested is protecting their own borders. and they feel like there aren't coming under attack. they feel like this campaign of misinformation, as they call it, is being used as an excuse by the americans and nato to bring troops and further troops closer to the border with russia. and using the tensions with ukraine as an excuse. and the foreign minister also said that the ukrainian president is being used these being an, in some ways manipulated by western leaders to be upon in all of this. and that is something that is very dangerous. and russia has said that the activities with its troops alongside its borders is for its own security. and that it shouldn't have to answer to anybody about any training exercises they're doing. in the southwestern region of the country near the ukrainian border or the joint military drills, they have scheduled to take place in belarus in february. so i think that the foreign minister was very much saying that position stating the position that is a he is coming from here and that has been the position for the past few weeks. that the main issue is not ukraine for russia. it is the expansion of nato and the threat that poses to this country, and that is something that is not acceptable for them and very much a red line. the foreign minister also said that at these discussions are productive and they're important because they are able to answer each other's questions in order to be able to move forward in the next step of the dialogue that they're going to have. and i think what the russians are insisting on a written response is to be able to avoid any misunderstandings or miscommunications about what the americans are saying. so i think they are asking for a written response in order to prevent that from dos or thank you. so much for your analysis on those 2 big twin stories that are being blended together in this conversation now. but in washington and moscow to day in geneva, let's talk to scott lucas, caesar emeritus professor university birmingham and associate at the university college dublin. clinton institute. he joins us from birmingham in the u. k. scott lucas, welcome back to our to 0, to big hitters to top, diplomats to day talking about ukraine, talking about iran. did they make progress? oh, there's no immediate diplomatic progress towards resolution. we didn't expect that, but i do think that you heard an extremely important statement and press conference from the u. s. equity estate anthony blinking. and i say that because this is the firm as statement by a high level u. s. official. not only around the specific issue of ukraine, but around russia's position in other areas of europe, such as the baltics, for example. and what blake him was saying, let's just break this down, is one. of course in the u. s. in europe and nato will stand against any cross for russian military invasion. we knew that already. but for the 1st time, here's a 2nd point blank and extended that commitment to say we will take action against the ongoing russian operations inside ukraine to destabilize and even to try to break up the country. this notion of hybrid warfare that rushes pursue since 2014. that is an extension of the american position and 3 blank and pushed back very clearly against this russian idea that the central issue was a u. s. written response to moscow's demand for a guarantee and said, no, that's not the issue here. if we're going to have discussions, we get back to the table in ukraine, and then we also have wider discussions on a security framework over nuclear and conventional forces. i think it was very significant that he spoke after a while for off because in effect, as blank and said, this puts the ball back into moscow's court now, which is, are you just going to continue to hold to your wine and hold on to that threat versus ukraine, are you going to reconsider your position? and when mr. blinking was talking about things like mutual security concerns, extra body, extra added value transparency. what does that mean to be things got lucas does that mean? say, when nato does military exercises, they can run the plans past the kremlin to get the green light to do what they want to do. no, i, i think it's not like a specific, you know, here we are. here you are, but what blanket was referring to was the situation before 2017 before, for example, both moscow in the truck into the situation began to rip up agreements. so for example, let's pick get back to agreements over deployments of nuclear forces. something that we had for much of the period after 1991. secondly, let's get to an agreement regarding the position of conventional forces. absolutely, you can have military exercises, but there's a difference between military exercises and putting, say, a 100000 troops on the border by country. we're already supporting separatist. that's something that you sort of say there are lines drawn against those deployments. and there's a wider framework to get back to another player in the game, the organization for security and cooperation in europe, who i think will become increasingly important in the days and weeks to calm. what else can the outside world i e, the u. s. and the e u countries and even perhaps ukraine do. if the key question today despite was gone and geneva is still and should be still, will russia invade ukraine? mean, let's talk about more financial sanctions that relies on, in effect, trying to cripple the russian economy or take a dent it out to the russian economy using the swift system on this channel. we were having a conversation yesterday, not you and i, but on this channel, we had a conversation yesterday where one of our contributors was saying, look, going off to the swift system is all well and good. but the russians operate a similar system that's worth 20 percent of the swift system anyway, so they are insulated, they are safe behind their own financial system. so going off to them with sanctions would achieve virtually 0. and if you offset that against the reality of mr. put in the kremlin, by the time he might leave the kremlin in 2036, he will have be that been president or prime minister for 37 years. you can sanction literally all financially mr. puts in all you want. he's not going any place. the putin and his inner circle, that group of officials and the wealthiest businessman in russia are not insulated because most of their wealth is held outside of russia. so the point here is, okay, yes, you have the broad approach, which is to cut rashaw from global financial transactions, which may didn't, but not completely cut off russia. but at the same time as the u. s. signal this week, when it sanctioned for ukrainian, a former officials and oligarchy, accusing them of working with moscow. we can hit you directly by seizing your assets and your accounts. that's the real threat that's being aimed at what some have called mark gal yadi. the analyst is caller talk rossi in russia. now, how seriously will put and take the how much will he, we have to wait and see. but i think there's a broader point here. even if the economic sanctions don't immediately have an effect, they are a signal of firmness and pushed back against putin's gamble. phase one of this gamble was, i'll put the troops there and i might invade. what are you going to do? we have seen a firm, us european nato response to that. for the 2nd part of britain's gamble was you focus on those direct military forces. you focus on that people in the border. i'm going to carry on when my operations are ready inside ukraine to destabilize key f . will europe join the united states and not only words but action to actually call out that hybrid warfare. that's what we wait to see. after looking at this, as well as the next steps between monster and washington, scott lucas. thank you so much for joining us from birmingham. always great to get your analysis on this particular relationship. well, ukrainian soldiers, some people living near the border in the east of the country, welcomed america's support. they say it strengthens that position and could ease tensions from finance for financing on watching. not us as much. so i think now when we're faced with this really tense situation, this is it, a foreign guests is very important for our country. it shows that we are not alone, that we have support. and in the case of threat, we can count on our forces and our allies power facilities, which the fios, which we knew nothing depends on common people. only the politicians can solve something. of course, i don't want a potential war to happen to us last spring in andre cartoon off in moscow. he's the director general of the russian international affairs council and re quote, to an off welcome to al jazeera of the russians. one step closer to getting what they want. well, it's hard to tell because i think russians so want her to have a clear signal of from the west to ukraine. or the west would not support a military solution for the don boss problem. and are the current concentration of russian troops on the water with the crane is supposed to a, to deter ukraine from taken a military action. and of course, are the, the lincoln, the blinking lover of meeting might have contributed the confidence that the united states would not interfere on the side of you again. but sir, there is dealer a gray zone. i don't think that we have more clarity on that to then we had before the meeting. if an easing attentions is what both sides want to get to. surely that can only be achieved if both sides kind of deviates from their red lines. if they kind of deliberately put up chaff muddy the waters, mix it all up and start talking about other issues. but behind those other issues are the big issues which potentially russian aggression across the border into ukraine. and also, i guess a, mr. oliver, off nato quotes aggression heading east. whoa, lover of stated in dark, you stated it more than once that to russia as the nor aggressive lance holds ukraine and that trash is concerned are primarily about 2 or ukraine. deviating from the music agreements. sir include an audible military action in bon boss, or if indeed you paint has no plans to recapture done by the by mil to force. are there enough? probably it's not that her own potent an issue. are, however, are russia or steel was to pursue, eats agenda and its agenda is about, are the native military infrastructure getting closer to russia quarters, which sure is perceived in moscow as an acts as extent existential challenge to the national security. is there a sense in which and re cutten off looking at this relationship we've got to put in context? is there a sense in which russia only has itself to blame for the current situation? because there was a point in the immediate aftermath of the berlin wall coming down when james baker said to mister gorbachev, if you're okay with the berlin wall coming down, and germany being unified, nato will not expand to the east. mister gorbachev said, okay, fine. that was done by word of mouth. fast forward a few years, lack of our answer. the polish president was talking to boris yeltsin, who took over from mister gorbachev. and he said, i'm thinking about joining nato. mister yeltsin said yes. okay, fine, nobody got it in writing and when i say got it in writing, what they should have done was go to nate. so in brussels and say ok, we're fine with this, but you've got to change the paper work foundation of what you are. so what we're seeing today is fear and a perceived threat on the part of the russians based on diplomats like james baker, breaking their words well, you know, frankly, i think that it is very difficult to get any legally bite and commitments or bar from nature that would limit its geographical expansion, that is the north atlantic treaty or on 19 of $49.00. and it's very clearly stated the us that to nate aids in oakland organizations that might accept or any unity in thus state provided that this deaf but state a shears principles of nature and might to make its contribution to the overall security of their lines. how can you do, or how can you avoid? are of these, sir? ah, you know, these 3 t how you can make sure that nature will not expand? i think what can be done our while we can probably have some kind of negotiation saw on the conventional arms and armed forces in europe. something similar to what we had done 30 years ago within the framework of the sci fi treaty. and that would globally create some security guarantees for russia. on top of that, of course, russia should become a part of the political space in europe. it should become a stake holding the european security system, which are right now. it is not because the european security system is native sanity. okay, we'll leave it there and rico, turn off. thank you so much for joining us here on out as the director general of the russian international affairs council. just joining us here on this specially extended news, let's just fill you in on what's been going on over the past couple of hours. the gentleman, you're now looking at mr. lateral 2nd lab off the russian foreign minister. we heard from him 1st war almost 2 hours ago now he was giving us his take on the aftermath of his discussions with his us opposite number anthony, blinking, he was telling us they had had a robust, honest, open forthright. direct conversation, i guess, is the most delicate way to put it. they had agreed to talk about the 2 big issues for mister lab, off nato expansion to the east for mr. blink, and what he would perceive as being potential russian aggression across the border from russia. into ukraine, those pictures filmed a couple of hours ago. round about 10 g before then use conference. that kicked off about 90 minutes ago. mr. blinking didn't pull his punches because at one point in their discussions he was telling us, he asked mr. laugher, all right. why are you thinking about invading ukraine? i paraphrase. but that was essentially what the conversation was. and mr. blinking pointed out to mr. lever off the before the events of 2014. when asked about, do you think russia is a forceful good inside ukraine? 6570 percent of ukrainians who oppose said yes, we do think russia is generally a force for good fast forward past the events of 2014 when russia annex crimea, they will ask the same question. that percentage poll figure fell down to roughly 20 odd percent. according to antony blink, and mister lincoln heading to the airport now he is heading for air force to to go back to washington. to brief, mr. brought mr. bite, and he has agreed to give a written response to the russians. we suspect, and i stress the word suspect, that written response will includes more proposals to do with transparency and to do with more dialogue moving forward. have they made progress? no, they have not, but the good thing about these discussions today is the fact they are discussing. they are still talking as we were talking to our various guests over the past couple of hours, nobody banged a table. nobody stormed out in a half. nobody said, right, we're going to green light, something very aggressive across the border. and the relationship between us diplomatically is over. the relationship is still warm, it is still alive. they have also highlighted and illuminated for the rest of the world that the window opportunity to get the gc p. o. as far as iran is concerned, the 2015 nuclear deal back on the table and back with a full high blood pressure life science situation. that opportunity is beginning to close. that window of opportunity is closing, but it's still there. so there is a sense of urgency and if these 2 guys are saying that a sense of urgency, that means that everyone else involved in that process, not least, of course, the iranian government know that there's a sense of urgency there as well. that's where we are today with ukraine and the iran nuclear deal. we will move on now to other stories. ah. okay, the other big story here on the news are tomlins in new zealand of come out in big numbers to send supplies of 8 home following saturday as well can a corruption and the soon army that followed it. more government aid is also arriving in toner from new zealand and australia. wayne hay reports. oakland is the world's largest polynesian city, and tomlins came out in big numbers to support their relatives and friends. back home and aid center has been set up for people to send food, water, and other items to toner, and to show unity and resilience. muscles are gonna bring all little country down, you know, pretty on, i guess we're, we're have a lot of, i was a middle. what we face of smells proficient together was overcome any for the opening day of this relief drive was so popular that many had to be turned away. what tomlins a beast that is when disaster. hence, we come together unite, and we give one little we have, we give it out of love, we give it to our family back home. it's hope the 1st of the containers will be sent to tanya early next week. governments are also sending 8 new zealand and australia an air force planes landed at the international airport near the capital local ofa. despite some ash from the volcano still being on the runway. and to new zealand navy ships arrived, carrying supplies, divers and underwater survey equipment to check for any damage to shipping lanes and the port. while the world focuses on the flow of aid and helping the people of tongue recover, scientists are also hard at work. and with each day, the learning more about how significant the eruption was, scientists believe around one cubic kilometer of material was spewed from the volcano and sent at least 30 kilometers into the atmosphere. so to put that into some kind of perspective, when we fly jets across pacific, we're probably flying at about 10 kilometers, with some communication being restored slowly. many tongue ins and new zealand have been able to speak to relatives at home. now the focus of those here is to come together to do what they can to support their homeland from afar. wayne, hey al jazeera auckland's known inquiries being launched in the u. k. to investigate turns of persons of children missing from schools following national locked downs. because of the coven pandemic, the children's commission for england says between 810-0000 children are not enrolled and they should be. attendance is dropped by 8 percent compared to the average for this time last g at now. many of the absences are due to cove. it we understand, but some fear vulnerable children may be suffering from anxiety. they're worried about bullying and other social issues made worse by the luck. dance let speak now to martinez da man in in brussel. she is the president of the european students union martina a man in welcome to the news i. why is this happening? thank you for the opportunity to be here today. and as you said, students on all levels of education are suffering from the education for adults. and more so than this is the impact that the economic crisis of depend damage on education budgets. and i referred to this because there has been for many years in europe, a lot of public investment in public funds that st quality education. and this is residing in many people as well. young people not being able to receive quality education or access to the education that they deserve. and looking at the issues from different levels of education, you can start with higher education. the tuition of the system, for example, has been causing massive problems to students. and in europe try to get there early . there's a, there's a predominant factor to enrollment in education for those coming from more favorable social economic backgrounds in more secondary and as a primary education, we have the problem where we are not seeing enough teachers being adequately paid nor adequately trained to be able to deal with the changing environment in, in the learning environment that this, from them it has for us. and this means that students would not be actively engaging in those things unfortunately. so we're not primarily for the sake of this discussion. we're not primarily talking about university or further education college students. you know, i'm thinking about teenagers here, young teenagers who just seemed to have evaporated. clearly they have not just disappeared. they must be someplace, but they're not going to school. in the 1st instance, why are they not going to school and how do we get them back into school? well as one of the recent findings that we have songs from one study is by this can also be extrapolated. not only the higher education students, but students on all levels of education, primary and secondary, is that those are lack of student support services. for example, counseling and career guidance for students facing troubles. to access education, bigion, or as to, to want to speak about issues related to their carriers or at, towards the cobra. 19 pandemic. another issue has been the mentor heads and, and the social dimension of education that has also been put aside. and unfortunately, when thinking about what to invest and in education, and this is why i was mentioning the need to prioritize at investment into training for the academic i'm teaching stuff and to make sure that they are also adequately page to be able to professionally address the issues that's a diverse group of students that have currently. okay, we'll leave it there. martina, thank you so much for joining us from brussels, martina, the man in that precedent with the european students union. the funeral of marley's former president abraham bochita has taken place in the capitol by miko. he died on sunday at the age of $76.00 k, to lead molly for 7 years. but he was forced from power in 2020, by the military, following major protests against the government. nicholas hawk is following events for us from deca in neighbouring senegal. net given the back story here, i guess this funeral is very significant. yes, in quite a somber mood right now where his body is being transported in this military camp, where he's receiving the national honors, ironically by the military region that had toppled him in 2020 and had kept and kept him in house arrest. now he suffered minor stroke just after he was toppled. he allen similitude didn't to leave the country for treatment. and it seems that there's been some complication in his health but, but led to his death. the 76 year old was a contested figure in his time in office. remember before his toppling, there were tens of thousands of people in the streets of miko asking for his resignation. he's been accused of corruption in his time in office. and in fact, his son baker, who is a former defense minister with an self imposed exile in ivory coast, is under currently under investigation for embezzling funds from the military men to equipped the army. while he was back in the country, he's back in the country to address this funeral, where he said that his father was a man. that meant no harm to anyone. but his legacy, of course, will be question, given the situation in which molly is currently absent in this memorial, is the military gentle leader himself as see me going to none of the military were there present when his body was brought to the place of memorial? absent as well, are the leaders of the west african nations who have turned their back on to molly? ever since the military gentle leader said that he was going to delay the much anticipated elections in february. the borders of molly are closed, land and air border. a country that increasingly isolated in a place where there is increasing conflict and of people displaced. peter now thank you very much. nicholas ah, there join his life from senegal. the singer, an act of meatloaf is passed away at the age of 74. ah, serve better to tell from the album was one of the best selling records of old time the grammy winner borne marvin lee id played eddy in the rocky horror picture show . and he sold more than 100000000 albums worldwide, cause of death not being made public by the family. time for the sports news is emmy. thank you so much. pizza will reigning champion army i soccer has been knocked out of the australian open. i saw was beaten in a 3rd sets high break by amanda. any, some over of the united states, the japanese player is a 2 time winner of this grand slam did win. the 1st of this 3rd round match frontier old upon fort bank, ammunition over held in its high rate. she survived too much points before securing a spot in the last 60 only is always going to be playing well and she's an absolute champion. so i knew that i really had to step of my game and try to be aggressive. i think that's what i started doing in the 2nd sad. and honestly, i'm so grateful that i was able to go so well today and get this next up for this to my work home favorite ashley bossy, the world and born beating it's lisa came in at georgia straits at 663 to reach the last 6040 aiming to become the 1st australian woman when in melbourne for so neil back in 1917. i would have loved to have had the opportunity to plan on me. i love to test myself against the very best bed in the position that we're in amanda's part of fantastic time, and she deserves her spot in the round of 16. and i think the match that will play will be exciting. i, it'll be, it'll be good for both of us to, to get out there and test ourselves against each other. narrow found that i had along with an expected and seeing against current catching off the 20 time grand slam champion, losing the 3rd salary as this russian opponents been hit back into full advances into the last 16 spanish filling with a chance of winning a record breaking 21st major prices in previous campus with melbourne. now back in 2009 took more than 4 hours of play. 2 separate colors, l correct. and the type seni, i'll come back to being who sit down to take the math for 51 with high break of the spanish teenager last night of a phone or a tv in surround or any champagne algeria has been knocked out of the africa cup of nations, they were well beaten in their final group game by ivory coast, who are advancing fellow 16 pick of the goals coming from all schools. nicholas happy that make things worse. algeria felt rid maurice was to miss a penalty and went on to finish the warm also in the guinea bookings for the next round. caroline, what if any 2nd in the table a draw would have given sierra the chance to progress is one of the best place things. but the hopes ended in a late. i don't miss. we've been talking to african football football, right. so my missouri have these encountering for the tournament, he says algeria focus for us to quickly shift marches, world cup playoffs. the new africa a couple of nations in 2014 formats and others 24 teams only. it's are eliminated after the group stages. so for the jury of the defending champion for the eliminated just after the group stages is a massive surprise. especially considering that this team came into this tournament on a 35 match and beaten street. and that there were the competence with an all time pastor winning the cup that was posted. and so it is a massive surprise. and as for what went wrong, the court said it's difficult to make a rational analysis, you know, just a day or 2 after the competition that he's going to have to go back to years and analyze what went wrong. let's for sure that the coach will not be fired, which will not be going anywhere. and that is probably the most popular men and all gerry men or women and i was area. he is absolutely be loved by everyone, not just football fans, but literally everyone. so he'll be sticking around. but one of the, i think valid criticisms of the coach has been that he's tend to, he tends to stick to his the same group of players. you know, the 23. that 12900 combinations. he has a lot of trust that group and that people say that sometimes is a little bit slow to integrate new players into the national team into sort of lead them in. and so now it's going to be a fair question because the world cup laugh is only a month and a half away. will you have the time to bring in new players and or will he prefer? it's actually just play the play off with his usual group and then perhaps to that before the world cup. should all jerry and make it so far. now, lucky escape to competitors. at the 1st world rally championship, events of the season, french driver entered former, hitting a rock face during the month call rally, sent his car rolling downhill into a valley. thankfully, both he and his co driver emerged unscathed from the wreckage. okay, buddy face board is looking for it's. andy, thank you very much. when we come back on the other side of this break, the 14 g will take a live update of washington county us work with the russians on ukraine. he said, ah, for quite a few decades casa, has been dealing with political and economic turmoil. and its people struggle to access essential needs, like adequate quantities of possible water, a sufficient number of beds for a pregnant mothers, and limited access to up to date information for students. and in huzzah. the ground water is not sufficient to meet the daily needs of all of its residents. this led to the development of the new water treatment facility and han eunice slowing down further pollution. the extension of, as if, as medical facilities was accomplished to provide expectant mothers with a safe and reliable opportunity to get the care they needed. the kuwait library at the university college, a science and technology is not only a repository of knowledge but an access point to the world beyond february on i'll just either china host the winter olympics, but will diplomatic boycott and the corona vibrate. overshadow the event. rigorous debate them unflinching questions. up front cuts through the headlights to challenge conventional wisdom, al jazeera keeps you up to date as mation, tackle the overcome barrier amid continued vaccine inequality. 11 east investigates how breaks the pandemic and changing pace are causing the great british curry crisis. the african union halted 35th orderly fashion, the 1st with israel as an observer state, with several nations campaigning against israel status and pressing issues across the continent. there is much disgust. february on al jazeera, did take the ships to democracy's activity, to corporations. control of the message is crucial. be it for public opinion or profit. the listening post examines the vested interests behind the content. you could q on al jazeera ah top us and russian diplomats still hold out hope, even though there's no breakthrough in talks about russia's military build up on the border with ukraine. ah, hello and welcome. i'm peter toby. you're watching out here alive. my headquarters here in doha also coming up, please remember our tongue and frames back home and this time of need. and remember the menu please for appeals for help for toner flights carrying relief supply.