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cartoon, hubert morgan has more on conduct resignation from the capital. he mentioned a lot of things, including the things that he achieved during his tenure as prime minister just over 2 years. but he also said that the reason why he became prime minister in the 1st place was because of the constitutional declaration. that's the power sharing agreement that was signed between the force of freedom in change coalition and the military following the overthrow of president omnibus. you, he said that political consensus was the reason why he was appointed as prime minister. and the lack of that political consensus is why he's resigning. authorities in south africa have arrested a man in connection with a fire that ripped through parliament in cape town is due to appeal in court on tuesday. the fire damage the national assembly chamber and that collapsed parts of the roof. president joe biden has told ukrainian leader vladimir zelinski that the u. s. will respond decisively if russia moves further on to its territory. oscar has been massing tens of thousands of troops near the ukrainian border. diplomatic talks with deep would to deescalate tensions of planned for later this month. chinese property group, a giant, ever grand has suspended trading of its shares and hong kong stock market. the value plunged by more than 9 percent daughter. it failed to pay investors on thursday. it's missed several payments in the past months. every grand old more than $300000000000.00. that's more than any other property developer in the world. the well known canyon conservation as richard leaky has died, aged 77, leaky study of human fossils help prove humanity evolved in africa. he was central to the fight against the ivory trade and protection of africa's elephants. it was the headlines. the news is gonna continue here. on al jazeera, after listening posts, we'll see you then bye bye. americans are increasingly saying authoritarianism might not be so bad. there were several steps along the way where the chain of command it seems like i just covered up. what's your take on why they've gotten so wrong that to me it's political malpractice, the bottom line on us politics, policy and the impact on the world on al jazeera, the paper to hear the yard. we understand that there has been a plane crash on the southern tip like that was like a 2nd. and never again, going to be the same most new york name and then there will not be to say not in the history on this nation has such carnage. me there was an eat those that took cold that, you know, this terrible attack was a big threat to the country and that somehow we were all in this together, the government and the press, the response ought to be appropriate to what is in fact, the 2nd pearl harbor, the climate after $911.00 meant that if you spoke out against the calls to invade iraq or the war on terror, you are committing career suicide. this is about good versus evil. this is about people who want to destroy us, our civilization, and our way of life. no, you live in basically created a world in which the united states was able to present itself as a force of good fighting against this international axis of evil. states like these and their turns down eyes constitute an axis of evil. behind the rhetoric is a reality, which is filled with death and destruction for people in the middle east and central asia and south asia. we need to paper on notice that if they harbor terrorists, they are going to get a legacy has been creating more terrorism. actually, we've got a long way to go in order to achieve our objective in america has no interest in fighting an endless war in afghanistan. is the war that enhances the conditions that produce what is supposed to eradicate. we want to fight a war against it. and when i could win that war in a week, i just don't want to kill 10000000 people. i know my decision will be criticized. but i would rather take all that criticism pastors decision on another, present in the united states, yet another one or that can never really end. the one did not have to be a visionary to realize on september 11th, 2001 that the united states was about to change. a strike at the heart of the world's only superpower, almost $3000.00 american lives lost in a single day. we'll have that effect. what was unforeseen was, how many people in countries that had nothing to do with the 911 attacks had been affected by what the bush administration called on to the people who have never set foot in the west have seen their own countries change their own rights freedom lives restricted, the invasion of afghanistan and iraq turned from a temporary intervention into long term occupations. and we're still dominating nice back in 2000 today, taliban fighters took control of the capital cobble. it was a crusade as president george w bush once called. we've never seen this kind of evil before, but the evil doers have never seen the american people. it's started with the white house forging alliances on the airwaves ever in print. and in intellectual circles . one of the intellectuals who was brought into the white house to help frame the war on terror is bernard lewis, who are not lewis, is famous for pointing the term clash of civilizations. they want to turn this into a religious war. a war of islam against what they see is the, the world of the unbelievers and in the world of the unbelievers, obviously the americans come 1st. another person who was brought in is for read the korea. at the time was the editor, international edition of new suite of the war takes place and it goes well, which i think it probably will. you will also see at the end of this war that saddam hussein was indeed a murderous tire. and there will be stories that will be evidence and in that sense, you know, you will, you will, this war will look better in history perhaps than it does today. 911 gave a new lease and a new life to orientalist ideas and even oriented lists scribes. this man can world view of good and evil and away aloud for the bushes administration, notion of the slammer call to replace actually the space that the evil empire of the soviet union had occupied before. and so the idea really was that it was the role of the united states to go in and civilized these peoples. and what these intellectuals did is they wrap that up and made it palatable for the 21st century. it was a time when the line separating american journalism from those in power faded away or was willingly crossed november 29th, 2001 was a case in point. it is a day that has stuck to for read the car. and robert caplin, a writer who worked for the atlantic, both attended a meeting, organized by the deputy secretary, the whole wolf, a gathering of hawks planning, a war and messengers who knew how to sell a brainstorming session. that capital and now admit produced a forceful summary of pro war arguments. at the time, the most significant talking point of the meeting was that the united states had to find a way to change the regime in iraq in supporting the iraq war. i failed my own test as a realist and had never ceased to remind by readers of that over the last 20 years . i attended no other meetings about the iraq war. and it's correct to say that meeting such as this one, provided an intellectual veneer to the policy that emerged. what rankles me is that with a few exceptions, the people who were writing robustly in favor of the war in iraq, they're the editors of some of the most important publications in the united states . right now. they're my friends. i don't wanna single them out, but none of them paid a price not no $1.00. i supported the war because i was a journalist who had gotten too close to my story. i had made several trips in the 19 eighties and i had never experienced tyranny. like i did in saddam hussein's iraq, so i said to myself, what's worse than this? nothing could be worse than this. well, i found out in the years since the invasion that the anarchy in iraq after saddam cell was much, much worse than the tyranny under his rule. whether caught opt in or russia patriotism, or addicted to the ratings that rise when broadcaster is bang, the drums of too much of the american d. a bought into big lies on iraqi w. m. d. 's terrorists sleepers out in the us. and saddam hussein's fictional links to al qaeda new studios were flooded with ex, military officers turned front man for weapons manufacturers urging us to attack iraq, presented as experts more like profit. here, the pentagon played a coordinating role in getting them on the air. let's turn to retire general. joseph ralston, also joining me. general bernard, trainer, he's a retired marine corps, lieutenant general air force. lieutenant general, tom mcinerney, who is with us in our foxes, were briefing room. they were beltway band, former pentagon officials, who make out like bandits when they go into the private sector and then work for military contractor history. this campaign is brilliant. it doesn't involve any collateral damage, no villages, no urban warfare. and it was a scandal that david barstow of the new york times uncovered. he brought in the minutes of the meetings between rumsfeld and the military experts who were going on tv was a completely orchestrated program inside the pentagon, giving talking points to the experts who would go on the media to shape public opinion. ah, and you were perspectives were marginalized, in some cases censor. the new york times was not the only us media outlet to turn into a conveyor belt for a false narrative. but because of its reach and influence at home and abroad, it helped set the news agenda. jill abramson was the times is washington bureau chief chris hedges as beat at the time was outside of the media was complicit in perpetuating this myth. you can't make a war on terror. that's what tucked ology. it's impossible and yet we reacted we drank from that very dark elixir of nationalism. you have to remember after the attacks of 911, the bush administration, perpetrated on, on purpose this kind of fear. it's how they ended up passing the patriot act in the 2002 authorization use military force actor. so you had fear, but then you also had american chauvinism. and that was a very deadly mix that an essence blinded the new york times as an institution. it wasn't just one or 2 reporters, right after $911.00. i remember the director of the cia george tenant, calling me i was the washington bureau chief for the new york times. and on that call, enlisting my agreement that the times would not do any reporting or disclose and of intelligence sources and methods. he just talked to the washing and post and he ticked off the networks and everybody had agreed and the times ended up giving huge play some seriously flawed news stories that were based on rocky defectors, who turned out to have very little information of the value about the current state of affairs in iraq, me in 2004, the times published an editorial may a copa of sorts. admitting that some of its coverage, leading up to the iraq war was not as rigorous as it should have been. it said editors who should have been challenging reporters and pressing for more skepticism, were perhaps too intent on rushing scoops into the paper. the editorial ended with a promise to continue aggressive reporting aimed at setting the record straight in the us military on leave, a massive series of air strikes on baghdad and other cities in iraq. and it was both shocking and awesome as it was promised to be. we will see it is wept the nation after the events of 911 so much so that journalists felt that they could not ask critical questions. cbs anchor, dan, rather who went on the letterman show and who said george bush is the president. he makes the decisions and you know, there's just one american wherever you want me to line up, just tell me where. and he'll make the call, talk about and media that have completely given up their autonomy. fox news and rupert murdoch's empire was consistently in favor of the war on iraq. 7 in fact, all his editors about a 180 of them took a pro war. busy line in the lead up to the iraq war one, oregon saddam begins. we expect every american to support our military. and if they can't do that, to shut on color or audiences were led to believe the iraq war would be over in months if not weeks. and months our patients will be one of our strengths that american troops would not end up meyer there, or in afghanistan, which the us invaded to hunt down some been loudon and al qaeda. and where a decade after been loggins assassination. american forces remained when the biden administration finally end of the afghanistan mission last month. american news companies featured many of the same voices. obviously, this is an unmitigated disaster column. we did. our dc defense contract around that had advocated for the invasions and the subsequent occupation were now arguing that the us was leaving afghans at the mercy of the taliban. and abandoning american interest time, you were on time 911, also birth new generation of security centric films. and television shows produced to trade unfair the pentagon and the cia have long had an informal symbiotic relationship with all supplying movie makers with military hardware, or turning the spy agencies headquarters in virginia into a film set in exchange for state friendly screenplays. 2 months after 911 in november of 2147 talk, hollywood executives met with bush adviser, karl rove in los angeles, to discuss patriotic plot lines. the industry contract rove later said it was about showing that the war and afghan esther was not against the law, but against terrorism. that distinction would be lost on most filmmakers. and eventually their audiences. there was 24. it's centered around a counter terror, risen agent by the name of jack bower. and every season is based on 24 hours of trying to avert this terrorist plot. hi walker. what ball is torturing people sometimes killing them? but the audience is led to believe that he has no choice, but to do all these horrific things. so that sure was fantastically popular and played a very big role in terms of creating a terrorism mindset. season 4 of the show 24 had an ad campaign with a muslim family that looked very suburban americas did. please give me is or not i can't even tell you the shock i felt when i saw that i'm here to tell you that i think that many people die because of it. drones are being dropped because we are the unionized countries. i'm baited because we are the human eyes because people do not have empathy with brown people. whole land, which took over from our 24 round from 2011 to 2020 and marked a shift from the kind of shoot him a cowboy narrative off 24 into obama's, smarter war on terror. all the muslim characters are nefarious and terrible, except for one of the agents who is in iranian american, who proves her loyalty by being extremely patriotic. but your current state of mind makes you royalty to him and to the agency. very live issue. call the director, not to worry. she's a good muslim, right? it showed how cultural knowledge of the enemy, good intelligence and diplomacy were important in terms of winning the war on terror. of course it also justified extra judicial killing. it justified torture and all the rest of it. so now you've got the air for the muslim who is a c h and but nobody stopped and asked for hold it. you know, is this now human? i thing as are you making us, you know, like everybody else when you get far, speakers with experience and international finance, i have to help. why can be tell him we really those about how damaging it was for american coaches to the center, but not a single movie about how damaging it was for the people down after $911.00, any nuanced discussion of the islam of the world, or what it means to be muslim is vanquished. and what we get in fact, are just these empty slogans and cliches that take the place of real understanding or knowledge. so you get films like american sniper butcher, you've got to say kid on the avenue, the entire premise of the film that these people are terrorists who savagely attack innocence. they're not defending their own country from invasion, kind of mind to move. it feeds very pernicious stereotypes. there are very few films that actually show a nuanced portrayal of what context make terrorism possible. what drives young men to become tears. there are examples of film by morrow. can i use voices of god departing and film paradise? no. it's not a coincidence that these homes are not american, these films show the complexity of the socio economic and geo political climate that push certain young men into the hands of terrorists organizations. so i understand, of course, no films are commodity, right. and these are multi national corporations that are interested in profit, and they want to produce what sells in a way. but oftentimes, it rhymes with the official discourse and narrative of the state. after so many years of you need dimensional reductive depictions of error muslims and the middle east. audiences have been conditions to expect certain kinds of bad guy. i stabbed him, the blood was those one and it sprayed everywhere which may explain why the new york times. incidentally, winnings podcast and 2018. california was such an essential character who went by the alias addle, who told the times he wasn't islamic states soldier and furnished the paper with tales of violence. and barbara had multiple times put him on the cross to leave the dagger in his heart. the podcast was downloaded millions of time, but the story turned out to be a hoax. abu safe was real name is sharon challenge. he is a fraud scientist who sold a fictional tale 2 times reporter, meaning color market one. she would eventually, when a peabody award for the paper was forced to admit it got it wrong. blaming and institutional failure. 16 years after acknowledging the failings in its post 9 coverage, promising to be more rigorous, the new york times had done it again. but the podcast remains on line with this screen. the time has concluded that the episodes of caliphate that presented challenge to his claims did not meet our standards for accuracy. and the times stood by telemarketers, whose journalism has been called into question before describing her final report. so since muslims are demonized it's it's very easy for the media to embrace stories however false that cater to that stereotype of muslims and the new york times did precisely this when he put out the caliph based on testimony given by an impostor. i mean it was completely untrue, but it catered to that stereotype. it was lurid. it was salacious. it was audio snuff, poor people being crucified and stabbed in the heart and the blood was everywhere. what the hell did i just do? i'm a psycho killer. now. i didn't give him a chance to repent, stabbed him, but because of the long denigration of muslims with both within popular culture and within the media. it was believable. those stereotypes that play unfair or uneasy sound for the politicians, filmmakers, and news networks that acted as travel agents for the war on terror discourse, political leaders, the world over have adopted that language. in some cases, have copied and pasted the legislation to surveil and ultimately sites. ready their own opposition? i speak to someone who was always against this. sandra jean, i always wanted to see the end of dictatorship. but i, like many iraqis did not want to see the destruction of an entire society and the dismantling of institutions that took a 100 years to bill. we did not have terrorism before 2003. we did not have car bombs. we not have malicious running around killing people. the war on terror and the atmosphere it created has generated so much unnecessary fear amongst so many citizens. so it's become a very convenient tool to completely crush any kind of legitimate political opposition. the fear narrative has become far more pervasive since $911.00. i yeah. it was a terrifying and then the whole country watch thousands of people die on that day. but we remained in a perpetual state of, of the year. there were always new threats that were being played. one of the key accomplishments, i think of the war on terror is really to create a world that is a lot scarier in people's mind than it is in reality. what is really alarming for people who study the war on terror and who have a sense of the actual threat posed by islamist or jihad. this group is the extent to which this threat has been overblown and over inflated not just in the united states, but around the world to justify various course of policy. once you make people afraid, you can use that to justify stripping away basic civil liberties. remember, we are the most watch, spied upon photograph, monitored population in human history. and when your government watches you 24 hours a day, you can't use the word liberty. that's the relationship of a master and slave. and that is the real legacy of 911. the global citizens persuaded by political leaders and news organizations to fear unseen enemies have surrendered some of their basic civil rights in the name of staying safe. in september of 2001, the bush administration called the downing of the world trade center, an attack on freedom. however, 2 decades later, you've come to realize that the actual sustained attack on freedom lies in so much of what has happened since. it is a war on to dress up the skies as a war on terror. who o dreams, johns and entertainment await the people to rise above the violence around them. so it's my role to give these girls a different idea that they can leave the role of this community. 3 short films show how performance creates a home and calmly, and gives hope and opportunity. a j select on al jazeera al jazeera sets the stage, lots of women carrying very young children. this one, for example, is only a month and a half global lex bags and discussion color. something about the impact on the climate change is having on the fall is that you work with voices from different coleman. when the whales are empty, people fight for programs that open your eyes to a low, tentative b. i them have kalashnikov, i having my voice on al jazeera ah sedans, prime minister resigns, after failing to form a civilian government as protests grow against military rule. oh, don't worry about this, and this is all 0 live from doha. also coming up, b u. s. president tries to reassure ukraine's leader over tensions with russia promising a decisive response of moscow invades india kicks off. it's covered 19 vaccination campaign aimed at teenagers as infection rates rise.

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