that is now affecting people on the ground, but affecting travelers trying to get up in the air to go home on this holiday season. the biggest cancellation here in the us are with united and delta united, about 176 canceled flights today and dealt with little over 160 and they're already starting to cancel flights for the coming days as well. now the british government is urging people to get a booster vaccine over the christmas holiday appointment for cove in 1900 vaccines are being made available on christmas and boxing day countries battling the false bride of the only close there. and it's confirmed another record number of infections with london being at the same time staff careers pot and full of resident parking have been serving a 22 year prison sentence for corruption in 2017 pop came the country's 1st and mechanically elected leader to be thrown out of office at least 39 people died when a fire ripped through a ferry carrying hundreds of passengers in bangladesh. police the blaze broke out in the engine room in the middle of the night and quickly golf the entire boat. people can't me, a battery says border with pole and say they're staying put despite freezing temperatures, nearly a 1000 refugees in my going. so i think to eventually make it into the you may cause cause to shadow of christmas eve celebrations in bath. and i'm in the occupied west bank with relatively small crowds in the buff town of jesus christ baron's march through manger square. before the arrival of the most senior roman catholic cleric in the region. people to look to the future with hope was in the headlines they found out front is coming up next me with an increase in hate times incendiary rhetoric and the media and public discourse around protections for transgender people becoming more hostile. we'll examine what's behind rising transfer be in the united kingdom and what the future holds for the struggle for trans right. but 1st, i domestic violence, salary debt and pants aside and honor killing to rape and murder. women and india are subjected to some of the most dangerous conditions in the world. the latest available data says in the reported in average, 77 rape cases daily in 2020. so what's causing this epidemic of violence? and is enough being done to ended. we'll ask why the money was, who is the chair person of the delhi commission for what? the. what the molly? well, thank you so much for joining us on upfront. can you explain some of the main forms of fem aside and how they affect everyday women? i would like to just explain to you what all is actually happening. i had the daily commission for them and it is a stature to the party in india. and every day in delhi itself, 6 reaper huffman 8 month old baby was recently deep them the capital. and i had gone and visited the good the way she was bleeding. she was in an intensive care unit, the entire hospital, the entire nurses, everybody, the doctor. i mean we, everybody, everyone had to put in so much effort in order to just save that child. an 8 month old baby was raped, a 90 year old girl, a woman is raped for the kind of rapes and the kind of sexual crimes that are being in our country are your lead your knee. what a fic. everything from domestic violence to being discriminated in your workplace to sexual harassment in the workplace to say, bush talking to you know, the child being killed in the womb, which since all of these kind of crimes are happening on a very, very large scale in the country. and i think even world over optical with the kind of domestic violence, incidences that have increased everywhere across the world. it is quite sad. i'm even in india, the number of cases have gone up like it's been quite back. indeed, it's why the latest available data says in india 29.5 percent of women have experienced physical violence since the age of 15 and in 2018 india was named the most dangerous country in the world to be a woman due to the high risk of sexual violence and slave labor. what's the root of this? i think a lot of self patriarchy and mislead jeanine, like in any other country, due to all kind of sexual lenses, that man actually feels very, very far from. he seems that he can get away with anything. and in the india, especially, the justice systems are so bad that people actually have morphia, they feel that they can get to read with all kinds of avoidance and crimes. and that is, i think, got the major cause of all these issues. another thing is that opportunity. sions, i think there's a complete lack of him, of the most quality sions, of actually many of them, they get away with very, very shameful statements. recently we had the governments chief minister who said that that really happened because good, very short codes. similarly, there are people who say that dog rapes happened because guns are having mobile phones. they see that's going to be happening because guns are eating. how can we orders? so all kinds of statements made by these, from the political pieces, and they actually get away with it. so i think what caused like the world over, if patriarchy misfortune, me, i'm the failure of the system to put any kind of checks against in 2020 delhi, the national capital reported more rapes than the other union territory in india. your part of a p has been leading the government of delhi since 2015 and promised to ensure the safety of women. what's happened. i think of just the fact that particular state is reporting more cases doesn't mean that the crime in that particular state is more. i don't agree with that because you'll see, at least in delhi, the reporting is happening. you have states like the police, you have states, other states in the country where reporting is not there. people are not even having, having the courage to come up to the police station to the board and even the wellness is feeling to the 40 cases. so i think it does not bode daily, i think it is about the entire country and the situation remains the same everywhere. right? but why do you, why they, let's assume that that's the case and there is no more dangerous in any other place . the question still remains, if the a p ran and is committed to ensuring the safety of women, has it failed to do so. and if so, why? for i'm not saying that daily is less dangerous than now. other places in the country i'm seeing all places in the country, including daily, are equally dangerous. as far as the me party government, as far as the, the legal goods concern. you see that the ready of your state of affairs in the national capital are the law and order off the national capital doesn't come under the money party. it comes under the central government. that's that. i think that all parties of the country, everybody, all political leaders of whether it is mr. moore, the weather does mr. cage while everybody has to come down together. i'm actually help this issue somehow. make sure that systems are in place, but let's get to the forces that accountability fit, that some kind off message is given to criminals. that if you do any crime, you will not be spared. and within 6 months, there is going to be, you know, you will be given the punishment. so i think strong system think to be made. and i think all governments have to come together to be able to do what role can or should the police play? do you fund of mentally trust the police to properly respond to the issue of sexual violence against women? we have to trust systems. we have to just create better a system that has to be trusted. it's just that they need to be that accountability needs to be fed vailable. this has been demanding for the past 13 years. 66 calvin willis, both know from the 2nd central government. and it has failed to get a me, i had to sit on a thin be 13 day, long hunger strike in order to get see told him who was for the state of daily. but how many have more hunger strikes to people like us have to do in order to get what is the do of the daily lives, but not just stack discourses the site? the fact is that if they're not accountable and if you just add more than sources to them, nothing will change. so i think it is important. but accountability set that resources are given. i'm systems are created. you see, if you clear good system can be delivered and i think your point about systems, an accountability, but there's also an idiot. logical piece of this. for example, in delhi, over half a police officer survey said they believed either a high or a very high amount of gender based violence. complaints were false in motivated. so even if we add more police and make them more accountable. fundamentally don't believe women will any of it matter? of course, the entire system, right, from the politicians right from the police, from the doctors and nurses, everybody, the entire system needs to be sensitized. but how do you sensitize system like that? how do you think that i have so many people in one goal? you do it by creating the systems? so if a woman comes and reports a case, thought willis station, right from the time the plus bullets officer meet that woman built the time, her case is actually the can, the, the conviction happens. the entire system needs to be made more sensitive. if you ensure that an 8 month old baby was raped, if you will ensure justice to hard with them 6 months to the justice system prove the live to all of the of different people who have different roles in this process that this, when there will be a message in the society that you cannot go, you cannot just get away with times against women. let's circle. it just looks like you in 2019. you went on a 12 day hunger strike demanding the death penalty for individuals who are convicted of raping minors. but according to the death penalty information center, there hasn't been any conclusive evidence that the death penalty reduce his crime. in fact, the un high commissioner for human rights has said, quote, evidence shows that the certainty of punishment rather than its severity deter crime. how do you respond to that argument? a 5 year old girl was leapt in. my country are hers. she was gang raped, her eyes were gouged out. ah ha, each and every born in her body was 1st broken. she was strangled, and then big killed her. what do you explain to her parents? what do you think justice looked like for them? so it's violent. my hunger strike. i sat one by one, so fact on a hunger strike. it lasted for 10 days on the 10th day, the government boston ordinance. that all cases off crimes against women will be disposed off within 6 months. i'm in the rest of the rare cases and in the important cases, in the cases where something really horrific has happened, the death penalty will be given on the density of my hunger strike. when this ordinance came, i broke my hunger strike again. i had to sit after a year and a half on another hunger strike for my question is about too far away from the question, which is if the evidence shows that the death penalty doesn't reduce crime, why do you still wanted? it sounds like you're saying, and i want to make sure i'm, i'm characterizing your words correctly, that as a pun, as almost revenge, that the death penalty is the proper response. and even if you knew that the death penalty, well, let me ask you differently. even if you knew that the death penalty wouldn't reduce the number of rapes that occur in the country, would you still support the death penalty in the cases that you described? all i'm trying to save my 1st and foremost reminder that each and every keys that justice should be delivered and it should be delivered in a particular time frame. within 6 months, all of the processes they need to happen within 6 months. and. ringback that needs to be done after that? yes i, i am talking on behalf of all the sexual assault labels who mind meeting almost every day. that pain has become my pain. and i think whatever the reason, whatever the be might suggest, i think drastic time school for drastic measures. what needs to be done is you need to give strong punishment in each and every case. and yes, in cases which are completely horrific, which shock the conscience of the nation, certain very, very drastic steps like that. and they should be. and that do punishment is not a form of revenge. what is important is that if the shipment is given, a message goes across to the people that they cannot get away with it. today, what is happening is that a person commits a crime, goes to the jail for a big comes out on bill, and then it's coming thing, the supreme court if it claim again and again and again. so how do you ensure that a country as large as ours, how do you ensure that there are systems that are in place to ensure that people have that kind of fewer, that they cannot get away with crane? i want to increase accountability of lives. i want to increase to for that i want better for in 6. i want better osha the homes. i want better rehab alleviation. so those are the systems and boulevard needs that one is, you know, trying to fight for job. i very strongly believe in systems. i believe that if justice is delivered in time, a lot of change can happen and that before to fight this for. so i will, i will thank you so much for joining us on upfront. the trans phobia is rising in the u. k. hate crimes are increasing every year. hostile rhetoric dominates the media coverage of trans people, and despite prime minister boris johnson is pledged to band conversion there. the government continues to delay reforms some on both the left and the right side of the political spectrum, argue that trans rights are a threat to women's rights. just how dangerous is it to be transgender in the u. k . and is transformed in the media making things worse. joining me to discuss this are christine burns, editor of trans britain, and nancy kelly chief executive of stolen law, the u. k based l g b t q plus human rights organization. thank you both for joining me on upfront christine, i'm going to start with you before we talk about the situation in the u. k. could you briefly explain what we mean by these terms and trans people? yes, certainly mark the way we understand trans these days is as to cover any people whose sense of themselves in the, in a language which it just has binary opposites of man and woman is opposite to the way they have presumed to be on the basis of how they were assessed at birth. so i'm a trans woman because i was identified as a boy when i was born. and when later when i grew up, i told people no, actually i'm a woman. and this people then are those whose since the self or i didn't gender identity aligns with their biological assignment. and that's exactly right. you've got it right christina, the council of europe, that's europe's leading human rights organization. recently criticize the u. k. along with poland, hungary, russia, turkey for arise and hate speech violence and hate crimes against l. g. b, t. people. a recent report by the organization found online abuse against trans people, harmful political and social discourse about trans rights, and a sharp increase in transfer crimes in the u. k. why is the u. k, so hostile to trance people? until the mysteries all of us, it wasn't widespread until extremely recently. as late as 2017, we made steady advances for the trans people in britain with legislation that protected our employment rights. our right to be served in shops and use other services. and of course the, the gender recognition act, which i was part of bringing forwards in 2004, which provides legal recognition to trans people. and most importantly is designed to enable a trans women like me to change my originally issued birth certificate. so that if somebody asked to state that most fundamental identity document, then i'm not immediately out it. because as you can see, most of the day when i walk around in, in this world, people don't know i'm trans unless i choose to tell. but if you were going to jump in, i was so if i can just build on that, i think one of the things it's really important is to am kind of separate out the public conversation about trans people in trans rights in the u. k. so or media or politics from the attitudes of the general public's the attitude to the general public can u. k. are broadly very positive and younger people, women hot more highly educated people are all, much more likely to, to view trans people positively and to be supportive of equal rights for trans people and anti discrimination protections for trans people em and really being transferred be can you case is a kind of minority position as some great research from the quality human rights commission that shows it's about it's about one in 6 people in the u. k. that a transfer back to what's distinctive about the u. k. i guess is, is the tone of our national conversation about trans people given the fact that actually generally speaking of public, a pretty accepting was, are such a gap between the public media discourse in the disposition of everyday people. yeah, i would play not directly on our media a we made all these advances. we changed the law many times to make life safer. the trans people overpaid about 15 years from the beginning of the 19 ninety's until the gender recognition act in 2004. and most people didn't even notice we were there because we don't impinge on people's lives. we. we just want to get on with having private lives and, and it wasn't until about 2017 that a conflicted campaign was launched with certain of britain's newspapers and newspapers in particular making a big issue that suddenly we went to having with some newspapers, 3 or 4 articles very negative article. yeah, i'm reading some of the headlines a week. yeah, i'm reading some of the headlines in the u. k. press. they point to a so called trans lobby. a headlines have claims like lesbians facing extinction. the cancellation of women is bigger than a culture war, and children, the children are being, quote, sacrificed to appease the trans lobby. nancy, when we hear that kind of rhetoric, and as christine said, it's emerging in the recent time. oh, what's driving it? what's pushing it at this juncture in history? i mean, i think it's in a way this is about the way the media functions, right? this is about the degree to which a story becomes a story. and then proliferates and particularly proliferates through social media sources as well. and i think it's important to think about both the volume of content we've got in the u. k. m. and the nature of that content which christine was pointing to. so our press regulator saw that between 229-2019 you see a 400 percent increase in coverage of trans people and their lives. and. and that's just kind of too much to be talking about such a small population. so we should, we should start with by a christine in the u. k. some of the most vocal voices who see including trans people in the struggle for equality as a problem. are people who identify as feminists, they've been called trans, exclusionary radical feminists or turfs, one of their primary arguments. and what about those arguments is problematic in your estimation? well, let's begin by saying that i think increasingly we don't regard the people using feminism as a cover, as, as being honest about what they're doing. because this isn't feminism. if you go back to the 19 seventies and the merchant says, a 2nd wave feminism on both sides of the atlantic, trans people and feminist women had an enormous amount in common because we are, we both suffer some of the same problems with the attitude to society towards our bodily autonomy and having a voice. so we've, we've always had, had things to, to work on together. but i would characterize this is a bit like people wrapping themselves in the trappings of christian religion in order to practice white supremacy or, or, or whatever other line they want to take. i don't think the people were talking about really are feminists. and they, because it was, if they were going to tackle the a successful lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans people, then they should begin by trying to ship one of those letters off the block cursing . but let me, let me push you on that just a little bit because while you're absolutely right that there are people on the far right who have strategize to push the transit times out of the conversation entirely. there are others who are being given the label turfs, who would self identify as feminists who would follow a generally feminist politics. that would say that they support trans rice. their critique would simply be that there are certain experiences. identities are points of view that says gender, women and girls have to navigate that are different than that of transfer. wilson's conversation contradict rawlings in a come from writers, i reminded ici. and then, and they would say that their advocates, the trans rights, how do you make sense of those types arguments which seem distinct from the people who are actually framing trans to what, as a problem per se? well, i mean, this isn't a model it, i think it's a, it's a very wide camp. there are people who are it just take on the trappings, feminism, as i've said. and they're all feminists who maybe have misunderstood and past. we haven't talked enough of some of the, some of the lines that are being said, you asked me before it, what are the arguments against? it says, the principal one seems to be that somehow i can never be a woman. and as a result of that, i am a threat to anybody using a single sex space like a restroom or a or changing room or anywhere that women are. yeah. to get have us have a space. it is the women only. and that is, that is advanced by high pain. the idea that somehow because i was once regarded as a man, i've got some sort of evil essence of man inside me that i can never be rid of. ah, if i had man essence inside me, i did remain demand. nancy christine talked about this idea of chopping the tea off of l g b t q, or l g, b, t i r. they're groups that are doing that very directly and intentionally. for example, groups like the l g b alliance, right? they advocate very openly for lesbian, gay and bisexual says, people, but specifically not the trans community. um, given the shared history of trans gay and lesbian people in regards to the broader struggle and the advancements that have made of the last decade, how is this kind of truncation happening some or have these divisions intentions always existed and the broader public just hasn't known about it. so we were a diverse community, the boutique humidity. you're always gonna have the kind of diversity of use in a range of feelings. and it would be treat, say in the u. k. and all around the world. that trans inclusion is the norm in the outer b t q plus community. it's not that that on em, lesbian, gay by people who am don't hold that few who do want to advocate only for says people's rights, but it's, it's not the most kind of common perspective. we've always fought for our rights together. we've always been in community together and when we've succeeded we've succeeded because we've worked together. and i think globally, the algebra, kiki rights movement feels more strongly than ever that it is together that we should advocate for better outcomes for all of us. really, christine, in everyday life, trans people are forced to navigate. all sorts of processes are government processes, bureaucratic processes that can make it more difficult to live. as you express gendered identity him, you gave one example just with the birth certificate, but there are many like back can you walks through some of the challenges of everyday life? well, without doubt, a lot of things got easier since the, the gender recognition act generally because of the more social changes. but the difficulty is that we have phases to our lives. when i 1st transitioned many, many years ago, i didn't look as i looked now for a period of time. i looked obviously trans. and that means when you do anything, i'm just going down to the local supermarket to buy a pint of milk. you know, can be a really difficult situation for people, particularly when all the newspapers on the news stand, a blaring that that person is, is a problem. and so searching them with being a p to file or a rapist, or they can't go buy clothes in the shop if you want to try them on, somebody will get afraid that they are going to to do harm. so they're all it's, i think the experience is tend to be very individual and personal, but they have certainly got worse because of this rhetoric christine nancy, thank you so much for joining us. all right, thank you. all right, that's our show up for. we'll be back next week. ah and a, there's a lot more to al jazeera than t v with our website mobile app, social media, and podcast. al jazeera digital is a world of award winning online content and portal bring view the very best of it. they're trying to frighten the people to levy to go somewhere else. but the truth is that they've got nowhere else to go. so if you miss it online caps it here with me. sandra gatlin on al jazeera on counting the cost beyond the tourism, the world's richest men, making a drab to control access to the trillion dollar space industry. all cows than you call. why rich nations of emitted agriculture from climate change and how flaring cost lives in iraq? 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