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We were never on whatever road to off migration. We meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on theory. The 1st major protest in june is your president sees executive power 2 months ago. 100 announce what they call a high site supported phase carrying out of peoples well, whats next question is yet is it like ah hello, welcome to the program. Im him, ron con. Its in his years political and constitutional crisis began in july. When the president sacked, the prime minister, suspended parliament and assumed executive power, Case Side insisted, it wasnt acute and said the measures would only last 30 days. But 2 months on, he still hasnt appointed a prime minister. He hasnt reveal plans for reform and hes extended his emergency powers until further notice. On saturday, opponents vented their frustration at the 1st major protest against the president , but side supporters were out in force as well. Now well bring it out guess in just a moment, but 1st, this report from Dorothy Jabari the Array Show of public dissent against President Case Faith in the 20s, in capital, thousands of people rallied in the center of tunis on saturday, chanting shut down the coo and we want to return to legitimacy. We follow the path of the revolution with its negatives and positives for 10 years. But what happened on july 25, took us back 50 years to talk prosy, which we tried with dba and benignly. But the policy is what a failure and we couldnt advance on July 25th president. So you dismiss prime minister, who shall mate she, she froze parliament and seized additional power, insisting it was not a qu, but others called it a threat to the region. Few democracies said supporters held accounted, demonstration, chanting. The people want to dissolve parliament cabinet. And was that the that the opposite side took advantage of the chaos . Pulling the Schism And Conflict between state agencies. They are the ones that went out to demonstrate today. On the other hand, we are the ones who consider ourselves supportive of the July 25th decisions and therefore support place. We came to preserve the state, president se called the move to seize executive power and exceptional measure, a response to an economic and political crisis. The former constitutional Law Professor justified his decision by citing emergency measures in the constitution that his critics, and many legal scholars said, did not support his intervention. Political leaders have complained about the constitution since it was agreed in 2014. They want it to be changed to either a more directly president ial or a more directly parliamentary system. President said, says he plans amended that a powerful union and teenagers largest party have objected to changing the constitution. Said is still to appoint a new prime minister while Millions Struggle under economic and political Stagnation Dorsey jabari Al Jazeera. Ah, lets bring in august finch, eunice m l. A z who is a political scientist and a member of chinese and other party in syracuse, new york mohammed, dia, mommy, a political science research, syracuse as universities, maxwell school, and also in june, a sheriff, a political commentator, a warm welcome to you all. Id like to begin with you l in tunis at some point were going to have to start to call this a qu. We havent heard from chi side in a major way since this began. Theres no Reform Plans that have been announced and that doesnt seem to be any movement. It has to be now a qu. So if your question is, in the way we describe what has happened, is it cool or knobs . I can see i can tell you that even the new colors, i mean features of law in our university, there is a real controversy concerning what happened. Some of them would say that this is a mere interpretation. Ok, so its a kind of giving ones self. The, the through active to interpret the text, the constitutional text, the way he sees it. However, there are other school, there is another Law Law teachers. And professors would say, this is a cool, a cool in the and the sense in the, in the legal technical, formal sense. Hes a fool if he wont. So if you can see that, that the monopoly of, of powers, of authority in, in one hand countries what we wrote in because the fusion of 2014. And i was one of those who adjusted the constitution of 2014 a visit. That is a huge and a ben just and a very important violation of the constitution of the january, 2014. So as an understand it and know you are stopping short of calling it a qu yourself. I mean, i told you i told you that this is what is being called diversity myself. Within what ive been telling you, even in the sense and the technical forum, a legal says the way it has interpreted and has behaved and has monopolize its power since july, the 25th. We can all try to describe it differently, Alpha And Eunice sharif. They often, when we look at chinese in politics, we understand that its a system of dialog. Dialog does take place between all the different parties. Oh, we in a moment where there are negotiations going on. We just simply dont know what they are so far. And according to what we in Hearing Or Listening or even the reading from, from analysis for me on a list here. It seems pretty obvious that there are no kind of dialogue or no kind of what should come to the next few days or weeks. Maybe we should still wait for the next upcoming days in 2 weeks, even though we are waiting since July 25th, which is quite a long period. Especially this has been reflected on the recent folders when prism saw it as those at least 10 percent of his popularity, but still a very popular denisia. But for a dialogue i think that this is one of the issues we are facing. There is no dialogue whatsoever so far in addition to statements and declaration that there would be no dialogue with corrupt what additions are up the lead or what he, he called the market and lobbies to control. Busy before July 25th, this has been the the position of cy, of separate isnt even before July 25th. So for the, for the, the, so far there are no signs of potential diet. And we are waiting for the next steps now from prison side, since hes, lets say, the head of the executive and by the fact to the head of some sort of just branch or to just to see the staging by a president ial Decrease Or Prevention orders. So, so far, no dialogue, i havent, im going to come to you in just a 2nd. Bo want to put that point to a male in june as also, i dont know, dialog dialog. I dont really agree with you, i guess from soon as i would say the but hes sort of services these last days at the beginning yet. So well just kind of surprise our shop call what you what whatever you want. But these last weeks, i think, and i can see figures, i can see activists, political activists from all the political sections coming together. They are trying that out. Of course, it is, but a beginning of a dialogue also from, from the, from the organization of civil society. But especially when its the least from political law. So i can see that the very age you think things are starting to change, and people who have come together before 10112011. Dont forget, after 2011, they were assassination, 2013 to biggest destination. But if i thought that the political plus had been able to come together, i said, i think that these people who were successful to come together are trying now to come together. And im giving you a fact. Im not just analyzing, im giving you the fact that the political activists and even yesterday events was the one among you can see many of these political activists coming together in that symbolic event in front of our insured and be able to give you. I havent in syracuse a Case Id running out of constitutional cover. He gave himself the deadline of 30 days. No one forced upon him. He said to himself, ive got 30 days. Im going to announce reforms again, thats new leadership that hasnt happened. Are we getting to the stage now where its simply illegal, what hes doing . I think 1st of all, we should make it clear and july 20th, if he did not announce any intentions. And thats actually one of the major problem that weve been facing last year. We didnt, we dont have the original, what would . And during the next few weeks, im only for how long this things are fucked up your last regarding your question on the galaxy. I dont think its one of them any more in the Discussion Isnt muted because many are as a kind of the fact to and discussing the new constitution. So whether or not its legal, i think there is a wide company that the article 80 does not allow the president to to spend the parliament or the executive, or even im in the constitution in fact. And i honestly the only author of our present side when he was back in the days a professor of law known as for his opinion on how we can use it. And this is an exception. So, so far the article 80 is use it is being used aside to more like a justification for his actions than anything else. What is not dangerous precedent . I have it if. If Theres Silence from qualified himself, theres no real Reform Plans. As you say at the very beginning when announced here we are 2 months later, still no Reform Plans is not dangerous precedent that hes simply just trying to wait this out. Well, no, he was. He was doing mostly forms economic or social be. We know that this was a Level Youd be looking at getting for the change to the constitution or the sort of their action, the form of regina, where the powers would because of the same time the legislative body would be very new. A little way. The hype of the centralized Process And Kind of in that election and even people who arent i cited right now on the he is we should actions against few actors or the parliament. Im not support of the the system, the centralized system is advocating for so, what is actually more concerning is that what he wants to do is, like you said, absence of any vision on how to address the major issues which is been but the thing and like getting more specifically Unemployment And Poverty and that social issues. Sure. If these were, this was a major protest, but it wasnt as big as weve seen. Intronas. Yeah. In the past it was in many ways restrained. It was much more about putting political pressure to come up with an announcement all was this, the beginning of a new movement in june is here. Well, lets say its a big protest maybe for, for the media or for, for the to say extra from the extended point of view. But what happened yesterday, just, i mean, only hundreds of people gathered in downtown june is the best a 1000 people gather, gathered to, to oppose side decisions. So these could be, of course, the beginning may be of the off the new officers of other brought this across denisia or even of the same place in the, in the capital. But actually, i dont think that would be just, but this for the upcoming weeks. This wont be, i mean us be because we may be would like to seem to think or would like to to say, because its pretty obvious not the people that gathered yesterday. They were rejected or they are rejected. Even according to recent polls, they are just rejected by the population. And thats why they are supporting president for president 5 decisions. They are relative support to prison fight, maybe Program Or Vision of already present both of our democracy or direct democracy as we may call it by the just support. Busy of a theme because he simply letter lies them. If we can say this way, so they are 40, they are seen as the core up what its going to need. Who faded to address the, the problems of the real problems of tunisia in terms of economy in terms of reforms, when i, in terms of the reforms of the judiciary, the history for the, for this reforms. And of course, in terms of the economic conforms because what we were facing before, right, when you say and even know what to a certain extent, is that okay, we have free stems. We have free elections or some sort of free elections, but its a bit different currently. And this is what the regulation was about. What you havent Paperwork 1st for testing for their economic rights for the social surplus youre putting in also. Busy into this we seem to be hearing that, you know, he hasnt address the real problems of chinese structural problems generally, which arent going to go away over night. But he is popular. Is he listening to these protests, or is he ignoring them because he feels he has the political and popular support . Let me sort of all tell you that it has become clear that all that Mr Side has wanted to to, to do or to people hed like to do. He didnt, he was unsuccessful to do it or to realize or to achieve it. And he put i myself, i wrote that he would have been all of these promises. You could have relied to them and achieve them in a very much easier way. And within, within the context and the frame of the constitutional legality. I can tell you he would have presented, then the constitution gives him the right and this will get the Presenting Initiative that cetera. What happened yesterday, however, the, the only other day for mystify it was a, this is the when people popular when im behaving that way, because this is how people wanted me its, its people who wanted me to behave in such a way the importance of what happened yesterday, is that very this message, this impulse, regardless of the member of those who were there because this is a strategy not calling people in a huge member was meant we are not in front of showing or if you want exhibiting a certain power. No, we are giving people who better just today are trying to give a message that yes, there are people who went out on july the 25th. But there is also another part of people who went yesterday to the street to and to say something else to, to. And this is change the, the, the equation and this show that a part of the street if you want and the People Consent is what happen it on july, the 25th a cool. And he asks for, and todays the slogan, they said that they wanted the state institutions back, they wont constitution back, they wont belittle back, they wont, legality and legitimacy. Both of them, if, if youd like to go into this dialogue over there to missy ambiguity, they want everything back. So i guess what happened yesterday shows that nobody incentives yet could do anything in front of all these challenges. Political, economic, social challenges, no one alone can do anything, including mystified as a president of the republic, including majority in parties. And so the only solution, as i can see is not individual. The solution should come in a sort of a consensus, a dialogue, a consensus and national dialogue within and under the umbrella of the constitution. I have it in syracuse. What do you think of what im all i just said . Is there a potential for Dialog Hit . So far inside was isolating, he felt it did not mean weve made this since july when, if its, if were talking about the labor union. However, in other words, we are not seeing any data right now. It may happy the future, but were not there yet. However, regarding yesterdays brought this, i do think, i think its important, it wasnt for me because it visibly show that there is some level of content from what i was doing. Oh, not extrapolate from the start and then. And thats to me that they are presenting what all conditions want to come Act Isnt on both balls and the im going to declare ation. So the positive, nothing of the masses and the ration of people, the actors show that there is little interest in the return of the sprint July 25th situation. All those who are in favor of a return to a concert, use and orders are in favor. Why because most of them arent in favor of constitution amendments. We seen that know exactly what the constitution look like. People were not. That is fine asking the situation the way before July 25th. So we should not read that much into yesterdays. Brought this sharif in tunis also one of the biggest weapons that the case i had has in his also right now is the fact that unions has been through so much and the fed up with corrupt politicians mismanagement. And hes using that to justify his actions in this constitutional crisis that its under. Is it a case that Jenny Deans are just simply credible and they dont want to come out in the streets and they just want some sort of stability, which is what this is offering them . Somebody. Yeah, and this is, this is true or partially partially a true denisia. They want stability. They want economy to farms, they want democracy about delivers from yesterdays protests the, the main lesson, but we know that weve learned so far. It is to protest freely in june. Us and to express the opinion, the ones opinions, despite the differences is still some sort of normal Thing Indonesia for 20. So far, whether we are in favor of spice, oregon decisions, whether we are in favor of the former parliamentary coalition or note. This is quite normal and this is no need some, some, some sort of income chastain intonation. 3 about free speech. A free protest are some normal things concerning your question about whether conditions are fed up . Yes, they are fed up. Thats quite august because when we havent even started from the 2019 elections, they voices for person of the political sphere and the classic up the classic. But if you are running out to talk that i would like you to come to a mil just for one final question. At what point does the other party just put pressure on him to come up with something to come up with some sort of announcement from some Reform Plan . When does that happen . Its already been that its already been over the 30 day limit. I dont think, i think not by now is behaving within, within, of course a, a, a sort of coalition or at least the other parties trying to, to work or to behave within and trying to also to collaborate with the political plus existing now and who are really willing to, to, to get into a front collective front, said democracy in the end to save the positions of the transition. And apart from that, i and i can see any, any in all, its from any case, its being asked to mystify it, to, to view and to get back to the constitutional legality. But at the same time working with the other representatives of the political and the social spectrum, if you want to and to can cheat to, to, to get out of this deadlock that hes, that law just if you allow me to interact a little bit with your guess judy, if i think that hes, i do agree with him, the reason that law the deadlock is that food on the table is missed, the Fire Today able alone to provide. And these challenges the socio economic challenges to fight corruption on his own. This is the greatest question of the greatest challenge, the answer for me and for all who are following. Of course, i would say force not as the problems of Physio Tractor on problems ive been in the assembly. Ive been in the government in 2015 and i know, i mean what im saying, nathan, is his problems are, are structural and deep. And they need they, they need a national dialogue or which, as i told you earlier, and nobody even, even if we have the elections and we have the majority carrier party, i dont think a majority, any party alone or my just standing part is low and would be able or could be able to solve these problems. So we have no other chance that people are working. I know the horizon is not clear enough, but there is a way and i do believe in us and in this will of national democracy, democratic people. This will to overcome this crisis and when it, whenever there is a will, im sure there will be away and a way out and a solution. I want to thank august as well as is a Dia Hi Mommy and sure if caddy. And i want to thank you to for watching. Now you can see the program. Anytime i was thing, all website Al Jazeera Dot Com and for further discussion, go to our Facebook Page at facebook Dot Com, forward slash ha inside story. And you could also join the conversation on twitter. We are at a inside story for me and Ron Kon and the entire team hit by the this is held through the most vicious, where the slightest error means a one Way Ticket over the edge. We have that remainder come back. Home may not meet on children breathing tough condition facing death every time Theyll Gamble with their life just to an risk in its all on our dcea. 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