Hit, because they were being used to launch attacks against american troops in iraq. Iran foreign ministry has accused the u. S. Of creating all problems in the region that many the a lot. And once i had the hampton on that in my see that the us still continues the wrong path in the region. What we see today is not only the sanctions, but also the following. The wrong policy, as in previous administration, is in regard with the actions they carry out in the region. They dont recommend the us to correct Thats Part of the state of creating tensions and problems. The people of the region. We recommend the us to correct as part of creating tensions and problems for the people of the region. And the regional nations decide for themselves without their interference. And what the us does is the security of the region is that the us itself will be one of the victims a lot better. 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Its being seen as a return to an informal agreement with hum us, which has been allowed to receive aid in return for maintaining. Com. And thats my last study. Thanks for company. Actually, its not my lot at all insights, tore your text news, news, news, news, a us church saw such a lease down as done by the middle of september. What about the afghan tooth, assisted them during 20 years of war. The thousands of translators and interpreters have a future in america or continue to live under the threat of the caliber is inside the door. Ah, hello everyone, im come out. Santa maria, for nearly 2 decades, thousands of afghans have risked their lives to work with us troops in what became americas longest war. But that war is coming to an end, at least from the us perspective. And its leaving those afghans feeling more and more threatened by the prospect of taliban attacks. The u. S. Troop withdrawal approaches. Now president Joe Biden says those who have helped us will not be left behind, interpreted drivers, cooks so many others. They have already been offered to apply for a special immigration visa, but approvals have been slow and recent Corona Virus outright at the u. S embassy in Cobble And Delight things further. When hes 18000 applicants with at least 50000 family members have been waiting for their documents to be processed. A will be relocated to a 3rd country until their visa applications come through. That announcement was made by the white house on friday. We have identified a group of s i v, applicants, special immigrant visa applicants who have served as interpreters and translators, as well as other at risk categories who have assisted us. They will be relocated to a location outside of afghanistan before we complete our military draw down by september in order to complete the visa application process. So they will do it from another location. The additional details of that, im just not going to be able to speak to from here. But more than a 100 for my ask, an interpretive who worked with us military forces, actually protested outside the american embassy in cobble on friday. As a many have been denied visas and called on washington to get them out of the country. All the foreign troops completely withdraw from jonathan. And after that, if we target by all of them, if we kill it, if we get or get killed by thought about whos, whos responsible for. So thats why we are again, we are asking for justice. Again, we are raising our vice. Youre asking for our safety and protection. This is our right. Thats. Were not governmental. Give us visa because they dont charge off the visa to its clear that 100100 person we are dying. Any needs to be able to just they want to tell us what we want to provide you. We dont want our kids jump. All of this is happening after president biden pledge to withdraw the troops from afghanistan by september 11. The 20th anniversary of the attack from New York in Washington Dc and actually led to the War And Kind of some bottom promised continued support for the nation as he met after they did that, the white house recently got security forces are struggling with increased attacks by the taliban in recent weeks. In fact, it has taken territory in many parts of the country. Recently the taliban advance raising doubts about the sold piece talks aimed at ending ive kind of sounds almost 20 Year War the seller introduce our guests for Todays Staffing in car bowl, with our zoo media, who used to be an interpreter for the us army in afghanistan in washington, d. C, as lawrence called former Assistant Secretary of defense. Now a senior fellow at the center for american progress. And also in cobble is Victoria Fountain, whos a professor of peace studies at the American University of afghanistan. Thank you to all of you, Lawrence And Victoria. I hope you understand that ill put my 1st few questions to out there because i really want help you is to understand what the job entails and get a real feel for what she has done over the past. What was it 5 years or tell us about the job . Tell us about how you got involved and what it and what it entails. Hello sir. At the 1st i would like to thank you for giving me this chance to talk about sie applications. I work for Youth Government for duty and doing projects are 5 years in afghan and to we are asking citizens who serve the mission of dance done. Unfortunately, we are now left behind and last thing, danger and dire need. I have served the and i have performed sensitive untrusted activities for us government d, Mangum Assignment and which is still im waiting for my id and my 5 years under on been 3 years. Okay, well talk more about the Visa Status in a moment. Again, i want to get a little more idea about the job. Were you out on the front lines with, with, with forces where you just tell us about what you actually were doing. Or as much as you can tell us what you were doing with the, with the United States. Actually sir. And these projects, nor earth from duty and us and Devil Or Money duties which i, which are hot and which i perform during my employment. And the men demand responsibility for me was still dealing with the different ministries and dealing, dealing with the different provinces. And then with my supervisor to the front, she had to talk later an interface or besides this i was assigned to perform at finance. The Finance Work for the company and to during those times i had a really good achievement for the company. And besides this, on year 2017, i was awarded coworker early from the from this project from the United States of america. And it was, it was not easy, it was not easy for them without me to have all the cheese meant and i could do my job any better way. What are the accomplished as well done to you . One final question before i go onto our other gifts, and thats just, you know, youre an interpreter, but there are so many other roles out there on their, their drivers and cooks. And so many people who, you know, can be in an office or they can be on a, on the front lines even it is a lot of responsibility and a lot of risk. Yeah, for sure, sir. As you know that its not easy enough. Again, its not at this situation that if the people, i mean the guns, so try to work with us. But we did this in a better way. It is not only for the interface. So for those who, who, who work along side and, and stand with the americans and help them to accomplish their Mission And Afghan is done. And they put their life actually in dressing, and right now, now theyre, most of them are not secure here as we see, alden use the dig in hand to murder by the telephone and other religious people. And especially the female. As you know that the deal against this, even the female work with the look of people, but like me, i work for and they can or, and they can government there. So it was not easy for us and still be feeling fear for taliban and other religious people. Ok or 0. Ill come back to you shortly. I want to bring a lawrence called into our conversation now and just listening to receive a lawrence. It just made me think where you really cant overstate the important that the role of the interpreter or any of these collaborators in the theater of war. And to be fair, even with all the problems that happening. The u. S. Is very much saying we know the importance here and we are acknowledging it. Well, theres no doubt about the fact that whatever weve accomplished militarily, we wouldnt have been able to do without these brave men and women the other as we would have had a lot more american casualties. Were not for them. So we as a country all down an awful lot, and weve got to help them deal with what comes after when the United States leaves that, that involves them wanting to come to the United States. We should make it as expeditious as possible. And its really frustrating, we should have been planning for this. Once we started the drop down, what have we been waiting for . And the drop down actually started back in 2011 when we began cutting a number of troops. That meant you needed less interpreters and less drivers and everything. We should have been trying to help those folks get to the United States if thats what they want to do. Absolutely. Right. Kinda preempted what i was going to ask you, but i will carry on with it because yeah, its the thing that people could be moved to to guam or to, to other goals countries in august it feels like such a rush and even then, well, who knows how long they would be in these 3rd countries . Well, that, thats, thats correct. And, you know, we could do, we could tend them, for example, to guam, which is an american territory and go through the whole, you know, processing stage while were there. But we had all kinds of, you know, inappropriate regulation. You know how to work for 2 years . No, it should be 2 minutes if you will work in the United States. And then we took us a while to give them special immigrant visas. We put them through the regular process which could take up to 5 year. So again, you know, all that i was in vietnam and i remember we didnt prepare for that one. So i gone, fell. We had all those people comment out on, on boats and stuff like that. We should have learned from that. Lets bring Victoria Fontenot Conversation Victoria Thing you nodding along there. Im sure you want to respond to what weve heard. But something i would actually like to ask you as well, almost the opposite of what lauren said lawrence pointed out that these people have been brave and almost heroes really for the United States. The taliban, i guess doesnt just view them as collaborators, probably use them as traitors. Absolutely. And does anybody have issued a statement more than a month ago saying that they would not harm specifically the people who work for coordination forces and if they repented . And so what does this mean and how is it going to be carried out . And i think that its a streaming dangerous issue such as statement speaker, at the end of the day it indicates and he also indicated to the local between where do you read to me that the section fair again to talk at them and that they have a crime, and so thats the certainly its concerning a lot of people not work for the United States, but the entire coordination forces just to build on something we talked about with lawrence as well. Just your thoughts on, on, on the, as i said, the rush which is happening here to get this done. And whilst the United States very much trying to say no, were not forgetting people, were going to do this. And were going to do that. Clearly. Its an afterthought, or looks like an afterthought. At least. Absolutely. The french have already evacuated more than a 100 of staff members and their families who are friends and you know, to, to do the see. No good. What is going to happen between now and august. They are short, are coalition, again, hampers was dying. The last one died 6 days ago, so they are being taught and then moving them to guam. Why exactly . When they are being and they are going to expensive checks. I have a collaborator who left for the us embassy, could euro for the security checks for her to be clear to work at the end. So why, why would they be per right and why . And they have given so much they have been recruited alongside really, so thats why not go directly to United States. Exactly, lawrence, just before i go back to ours, or it struck me that theres the 3rd countries involved. Now, guam, which is a u. S. Territory, but also the Gulf States which have been mentioned as well. And then the theories that they would go to the United States would that even be guaranteed . This was a us led war, wasnt it . It was a nato war. So our other major countries in place, well, we should guarantee and not just them, but they are families because you cant just take out the 18 to 20000 interpreters because the taliban will go after their families. And i just suggested guam not to leave them. They are permanently so we could get them out and then begin processing their applications and make sure that when they got to the United States, there would be somebody to be able to care for them. So central to Everything Weve talked about is the f i v. The special immigrate visa, which i think all 3 of you have mentioned are soon tell us about that. Youve applied for one, im sure what status is that for you now . Where are you at with your application . Thank you for your question, sir. After i completed the 2 years with the us government and my supervisor noticed that im fixing the problem here. So lots of choice in my life, my life. So he gave me recommendation and as far later so i had to talk to the Company Packet and i send it to far as i v, as well as the year 2017 which i my father and my recommendation later another decade today. And this i the email which is still my case is under review. They never asked for any documents. The last email i just received from them was just your cases under review. You have to wait for it. They can not tell us that the timeframe has always said there is the money off because and they cannot the exact time that when i would get the approval. The main thing that im concerned about is if theres any documentation required, why theyre not asking, i ask the money applicants also for years 2 years under review, their cases under review at the end of the did they get denied. Been denied from the embassy. Why . Its just bothering why bother, so theyre going to cancel our kids or deny it, or if they need for any documentation, bishop us before our a supervisor, leave this country or we cannot get contact with them. Actually, i do have contact with my supervisor. But most of the applicants the have contact with the supervisor and they are not able to get the Confirmation Email from them. Like the Confirmation Mandation has. Many of them has all the confirmation, but they still do this under review. Let me so ive been sorry, or if youve been waiting, i think you said 2017. You put in your application. So if youve been waiting 3 or 4 years for this, do you have any face but it will be completed in the next 2 month . I cannot, i cannot see that it depends on the use. This isnt the Use Government to think this. So you said the situation, you know, its really critical situation right now and no one can go into our lives. Now, if X Bater and i decrease the president by then administration, that they should take this to us at this patricia and, and this is an emergency of a question to guam or to another intermediate country. Because for right now, the main thing we are concerned about our security, our families, its not just only me extract collins of applicants. Besides this, all of the applicants have children, they have families. So who is they . Are this is sponsibility. Can anyone get into our lives . Actually we all know or can she can she does not do that and you have your witness and you guys can kind of go through social media and you can see that like lead to any. Do any translators and other people are getting killed day by day, by the other religious people. And once its all on take over the government, im sure these religious people would go to thought up on. And if did it look nice if Someone Report against this, so definitely they will kill us before we die in this country. I Use Government should take this serious lawrence, what do you think hearing, you know, a personal direct story like that from obviously i know im not supposed to take sides in any of this, but it just sounds it doesnt sound right at all that this has been going on, correct . I mean, just to hear the story should get people to galvanize Center Angus can king, who is an independent book caucuses. What the democrats says, my hair is on fire. When hearing these type of things, im a member of the american legion. We been pressing the congress to change the laws so these people can get it more quickly. I think the biden administration and finally, waking up to the, the problem because when they talked about getting out of afghanistan by, you know, the anniversary of 911. They didnt get deal with this right away. They should have been dealing with it when they knew they were leaving victoria your reaction to what you heard from obviously there, there, its just, i mean, we know theres a huge problem here for so many people, but it really personalized it sent me for me. Then hearing about what shes going to and the fear that she has as well. Ive said with you. And i think that, you know, one should always remember that there is no need to be a ration and no keith and no Development Operation without the help of national Staff And Everything that we have been doing for the past 20 years has been achieved. Thanks to the national staff and, and for from my perspective i see that every day i hear this every day from many different areas over and done. And i really think that the highlights are still the double standards that exist between international an action of the south and, and far all those w sanders on materializing that particular type of case. And i really hope that major leaders and that the white house is going to wake up to these and, and change that situation because were talking about the south and people. And every day what im doing, i could not work without the national stuff. And they are really, are i really important not by victoria in researching for this discussion today, i looked at other countries which had had similar plans in place for example, the u. K. And this is what they said they would offer Priority Relocation to people. And this is a court assessed to be under serious threat of life. And i wonder if we could see a problem here with this us plan because if youre assessing the threat to someones life, that can be interpreted in different ways, content and what really feels as a threat to her life. You know, the other people may not the people making the decisions may not absolutely. And not just that, but he think science was says and who assess these and how many commissions and, and i think that its extremely subjective. And it should be bad any worse than who decides to work for the coordination and for the coordination should be given. Thats right. And not go through so much scrutiny, because again, it is the burden of the food on the person to actually say my life in danger and why and they shouldnt have to go through that. Lawrence, can you remind us what the us is saying about any prerequisites . Janitta you said there was a 2 year minimum, wasnt there something like that . Well, 1st there was a 2 year minimum, then they change it to, to one year. And even that just artificial because if youve been working for 6 months or the u. S. The taliban is not going to say, oh, you didnt do it for a year, so well leave you alone. No, we should. Or you know, people are worried. Well, if you take a man, you might get a few people who dont deserve. Yeah, you can make mistakes. What by and large, youre going to do the right thing and thats why, you know, get him out, get him someplace if you dont like one, then he to staten island, for example, or ellis island, and then go over it to make to make sure, but youve got to get them out. Thats the key thing. And its also been complicated by the Fact Youve got colbert there and you know theyre worried about that too. But again, what you need is the president to say must, just as i said, well get now. And then theres time, were going to let those people in and do it. Some of the other countries being mentioned, lawrence carter, bahrain, for example, here in the gulf. I mean, what, what would they have to gain . Why would they want to get involved in this . Well, again, for humanitarian reasons, if they, you know, and if these people feel they would rather stay in the middle east and come to, you know, our country thousands of miles away. I think they should have that option. But the fact of the matter is, their 1st option, the option they can choose should be the United States if they want to do something. Now, why . But we got to let them have the option to come here with something to run down the clock. So well go back to our a mary and combo. Lets say i do that. This does happen that you get moved, even if it happens to guam or directly to the United States or wherever. What do you expect of your new life in the United States . What would, what do you want to do . Thank you sir. At 1st, i hope and i wish that you said mr. Sean, this serious and do this Emergency Equation directly to the big part goes who doesnt have any issue with their s ivys why . Why did the stay for a long time and guam or, and other country . And once i get my v, i would, i would rather to work there and i would like to have, i would like my children to be able to continue the school. And i would like to continue working and surveying for the us government beside this i can continue my Master Degree has i was not able due to Security Problem here in afghan this time to continue my education. And but i hope that one day i would be able to finish it. And do you know anyone . My do you know anyone are through any of your friends or colleagues who have been successful with their immigration and theyve managed to get through to the us . Yeah. I do, there is like my 2 friends there, living in virginia, one of them used to work for a w b. Now she got her. I think 2 years ago now shes working in that, i dont know and where, but she has a good job at the state and my another friend. Her, her husband used to work for the use military. And 8 years ago they went to the United States. They also living in virginia, they are happy and their kids are happy, their families happy. They dont feel fair from anything. So yeah, they have good life at the air. I will are one. 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