Well have his report. And the british Prime Minister has resumed his weekly audiences with the queen, 15 months after they were suspended. Where to begin . Hello, im katty kay in washington. Christian fraser is in london. Britney spears is pop culture royalty. Shes on the Mount Rushmore of modern music. In fact, britney has been famous for longer than most current music stars have even been alive. And yet, for the past 13 years, shes had no control of her career or her health, or many other aspects of her daily life. Thats because shes been placed in a legal arrangment called a conservatorship. Thats when another party in this case, herfather, jamie takes control of a persons Decision Making on significant matters. This often comes up with those who have diminished mental or physical capacities. Today, in a California Court, ms spears� s lawyers are set to argue that she does not fit that bill. So, lets cross to the bbc� s david willis, whos outside the court. Lovely to see you, david. Lets start with how this is going to work today. How is she going to deliver her evidence . How will we hear what she has to say . She has to say . Christian, i have to sa , ou she has to say . Christian, i have to say. You can she has to say . Christian, i have to say. You can see she has to say . Christian, i have to say, you can see theres she has to say . Christian, i have to say, you can see theres a she has to say . Christian, i have to say, you can see theres a sort she has to say . Christian, i have to say, you can see theres a sort of l say, you can see theres a sort of attention say, you can see theres a sort of attention in say, you can see theres a sort of attention in this case. Its garnering by the people around me at the moment, and shes not even hear herself the moment, and shes not even hear herself. Britney spears is due to ive herself. Britney spears is due to give evidence either by audio or video give evidence either by audio or video link. Give evidence either by audio or video link, and she will speak directly video link, and she will speak directly to the judge for the first time directly to the judge for the first time in directly to the judge for the first time in two years. Her lawyers and she herself time in two years. Her lawyers and she herself have not said what shes going she herself have not said what shes going to she herself have not said what shes going to talk about, but its thought going to talk about, but its thought that rather than calling for the conservatorship itself to be thrown the conservatorship itself to be thrown out, she has sought to beat her thrown out, she has sought to beat her get thrown out, she has sought to beat her get her fatherjamie taken off his her get her fatherjamie taken off his responsibilities as far as the conservatorship is concerned. Documents published in the New York Times documents published in the New York Times yesterday suggested that this has been times yesterday suggested that this has been a point of issue between the two. Has been a point of issue between the two, father and daughter, for quite the two, father and daughter, for quite some time. A lot longer than we thought previously. And that jamie we thought previously. And that jamie spears has sought to keep Controi Jamie Spears has sought to keep control of jamie spears has sought to keep control of everything as far as his Daughter Control of everything as far as his daughter is concerned, everything from daughter is concerned, everything from who daughter is concerned, everything from who she dates to the colour of her kitchen from who she dates to the colour of her kitchen cabinets. | from who she dates to the colour of her kitchen cabinets. Her kitchen cabinets. I see that her la er her kitchen cabinets. I see that her lawyer told her kitchen cabinets. I see that her lawyer told the her kitchen cabinets. I see that her lawyer told the court, her kitchen cabinets. I see that her lawyer told the court, david, her kitchen cabinets. I see that her lawyer told the court, david, that l lawyer told the court, david, that shes indefinite strike at the moment. Shes not working as long as her father is in charge of the money. She doesnt want to perform and make more money for him. Thats and make more money for him. Thats riuht. She and make more money for him. Thats right. She hasnt and make more money for him. Thats right. She hasnt performed and make more money for him. Thats right. She hasnt performed since january right. She hasnt performed since january of right. She hasnt performed since january of 2019. She hasnt recorded in five january of 2019. She hasnt recorded in five years january of 2019. She hasnt recorded in five years. Youre absolutely right, in five years. Youre absolutely right, the in five years. Youre absolutely right, the contention is that she doesnt right, the contention is that she doesnt want to do that. All the time doesnt want to do that. All the time her doesnt want to do that. All the time her father occupies this role over this time her father occupies this role over this conservatorship. She said that she over this conservatorship. She said that she is over this conservatorship. She said that she is afraid ofjamie spears and what that she is afraid ofjamie spears and what that she is afraid ofjamie spears and what the authority over her. His iawyer and what the authority over her. His iawyer s and what the authority over her. His Lawyer S Essay recently, this conservatorship has prevented Britney Conservatorship has prevented britney from going into bankruptcy and being britney from going into bankruptcy and being exploited. They say he has acting and being exploited. They say he has acting out and being exploited. They say he has Acting Out Of Nothing other than an undivided Acting Out Of Nothing other than an undivided love for his daughter. David, undivided love for his daughter. David, take us back in time. Tell us how this came about. How did Britney Spears get into this conservatorship . Spears get into this conservatorshi . ,. , spears get into this conservatorshi . ,. , conservatorship . Katty, it goes back to 2008. Britney conservatorship . Katty, it goes back to 2008. Britney spears conservatorship . Katty, it goes back to 2008. Britney spears was to 2008. Britney spears was expressing a lot of Mental Health problems. You may remember there were clashes with the paparazzi at one point, were clashes with the paparazzi at one point, and she shaved her head. That conservatorship was brought into effect in 2008 because it was felt that into effect in 2008 because it was felt that she wasnt of sound mind, i felt that she wasnt of sound mind, iwasnt felt that she wasnt of sound mind, i wasnt able to exert the Decision Making powers that were needed Decision Making powers that were needed Decision Making powers that were needed she wasnt. As i mentioned, that conservatorship basicaiiy mentioned, that conservatorship basically cast those powers over to her father, basically cast those powers over to her father, jamie. Somebody who has had a her father, jamie. Somebody who has had a somewhat complicated relationship in the past. And whats the president relationship in the past. And whats the president for relationship in the past. And whats the president for getting relationship in the past. And whats the president for getting out relationship in the past. And whats the president for getting out of the president for getting out of these legal arrangements president . Why doesnt she say to thejudge she wants president . Why doesnt she say to the judge she wants it all thrown out . In the judge she wants it all thrown out . ,. ,. ,. , out . In order to get out of it, the erson out . In order to get out of it, the person of out . In order to get out of it, the person of subject out . In order to get out of it, the person of subject has out . In order to get out of it, the person of subject has to out . In order to get out of it, the person of subject has to basically| person of subject has to basically persuade person of subject has to basically persuade the court that he or she is capable persuade the court that he or she is capable of persuade the court that he or she is capable of exercising Sound Judgment in matters capable of exercising Sound Judgment in matters such as the personal affairs. In matters such as the personal affairs, the treatment as far as medicat affairs, the treatment as far as medical issues and so on. But this is a conservatorship that has dragged is a conservatorship that has dragged on for 13 years, and i have to say dragged on for 13 years, and i have to say that dragged on for 13 years, and i have to say that nobody, not even these britney to say that nobody, not even these Britney Spears fans around me, expected Britney Spears fans around me, expected to be lifted anytime soon. David expected to be lifted anytime soon. David willis, clearly there are a lot of fans. Liz day, senior story editor at the New York Times and co creator of the documentary framing Britney Spears, joins us now to discuss. Of course, the reason its highly anticipated is because we havent heard from britney in person for a long time. How did she get herself to todays position where she can speak in person, and what do you think shes hoping to get out of this hearing . This hearing . Yes, so no one actually knows this hearing . Yes, so no one actually knows what this hearing . Yes, so no one actually knows what britneyl this hearing . Yes, so no onel actually knows what britney is this hearing . Yes, so no one actually knows what britney is going to say actually knows what britney is going to say today during the entire 13 year to say today during the entire 13 year long to say today during the entire 13 year long conservatorship, she rarely year long conservatorship, she rarely attends support let alone speak rarely attends support let alone speak publicly about the conservatorship. Everyone is interested to see her what she is going interested to see her what she is going to interested to see her what she is going to say, but the last year, shes going to say, but the last year, shes been going to say, but the last year, shes been battling to remove her father shes been battling to remove her father from controlling her 60 million father from controlling her 60 million fortune, so many people think million fortune, so many people think she million fortune, so many people think she will be talking about her dad today. You think she will be talking about her dad toda. ,. , ~ ~ dad today. You mentioned the 60 million fortune, dad today. You mentioned the 60 million fortune, and dad today. You mentioned the 60 million fortune, and what dad today. You mentioned the 60 million fortune, and what her million fortune, and what her supporters say is the whole notion that a woman who can fill arenas still make millions of dollars if she were to get back out performing again is not able to control her own daily life, to the degree shes constrained, she cant decide how much money she has to spend. Itjust doesnt make sense on the face of it. ,. , doesnt make sense on the face of it. Yeah, so conservatorships are su osed it. Yeah, so conservatorships are supposed to it. Yeah, so conservatorships are supposed to be it. Yeah, so conservatorships are supposed to be designed it. Yeah, so conservatorships are supposed to be designed for it. Yeah, so conservatorships are supposed to be designed for the | supposed to be designed for the seriously supposed to be designed for the seriously incapacitated or the elderly seriously incapacitated or the elderly with dementia, people who Cannot Elderly with dementia, people who cannot take care of themselves. Yet britney cannot take care of themselves. Yet britney has cannot take care of themselves. Yet britney has been able to perform in Las Vegas Britney has been able to perform in las vegas and make millions of dollars. Las vegas and make millions of dollars. So las vegas and make millions of dollars, so express point out that that doesnt add up. But dollars, so express point out that that doesnt add up. That doesnt add up. But surely a udue that doesnt add up. But surely a ud. E with that doesnt add up. But surely a judge with any that doesnt add up. But surely a judge with any common that doesnt add up. But surely a judge with any common sense i that doesnt add up. But surely a judge with any common sense would be able to discern that, wouldnt they . She just wants jamie taken off it. Supporters of the conservatorship have often said that britney is quite have often said that britney is quite happy in this. But what we revealed quite happy in this. But what we revealed yesterday with confidential Court Records is that Britney ActuatiyCourt Records is that britney actually has been raising complaints against actually has been raising complaints against the conservatorship many years against the conservatorship many years earlier than anyone was aware of. � ,. , years earlier than anyone was aware of. ,. Years earlier than anyone was aware of. ,. , of. Its such a tragic story because i of. Its such a tragic story because i remember of. Its such a tragic story because i remember her of. Its such a tragic story because i remember her from of. Its such a tragic story because i remember her from when of. Its such a tragic story because i remember her from when i of. Its such a tragic story because i remember her from when i was i i remember herfrom when i was young, and she was sexualised at such as young age, for which i think the media takes an awful lot of respectability. What sort of affected that had on her at the time responsibility . fiur affected that had on her at the time responsibility . Responsibility . Our documentary really zeroed responsibility . Our documentary really zeroed in responsibility . Our documentary really zeroed in on responsibility . Our documentary really zeroed in on the responsibility . Our documentary really zeroed in on the medias really zeroed in on the medias treatment of britney, and if you go back to treatment of britney, and if you go back to that period of the early 2000 back to that period of the early 2000 s, back to that period of the early 2000 s, its not that long ago. Its 2000 s, its not that long ago. Its only 2000 s, its not that long ago. Its only a 2000 s, its not that long ago. Its only a decade or two ago, but it feit its only a decade or two ago, but it felt like its only a decade or two ago, but it felt like a its only a decade or two ago, but it felt like a fossil from the 1950s in the it felt like a fossil from the 1950s in the mad men era. People were probing in the mad men era. People were probing her about her sex life or drooiing probing her about her sex life or drooling about wanting to sleep with this teenager at the time. I think its reasonable for people to ask how that its reasonable for people to ask how that affected where she ended up. How that affected where she ended u. , ~ how that affected where she ended u n. ,. , how that affected where she ended u. , ~ ,. ,. How that affected where she ended up. Thank you very much for being with us. I dont think in this era, you get anything like i looked at the other day. Itsjust anything like i looked at the other day. Its just completely different now in the way she would be treated today. Now in the way she would be treated toda. Now in the way she would be treated toda. ,. ,. ,. Now in the way she would be treated toda. ,. ,. ,. , 4 today. Yeah, and in a way, you think its no surprise today. Yeah, and in a way, you think its no surprise that today. Yeah, and in a way, you think its no surprise that somebody its no surprise that somebody became that famous was treated in that highly sexualised way and hounded by the press, had something of a breakdown. The irony is that documentary that liz was part of showed that jamie himself has had problems with alcohol, and you think whos the one who is mentally capable at the moment . And it is extraordinary that a judge doesnt just say lets throw the whole thing out, or at least throw him off. Well see. That hearing starts in about 20 minutes, so we will find out what she says. At the white house today, President Biden laid out proposals to address a recent rise in Violent Crime in americas cities. And there is genuine reason for concern. In the last ten years, as these figures from the fbi show, Violent Crime has come down from its all time high. That was the good news. But violence has been ticking back up again recently, and that has people worried. Now we come to that all too familiar conflict and its particularly cities often run by the Democratic Party that are seeing a surge in violence. Philadelphia is now one of the most violent cities in the us. In, 2019 there were 356 murders, and last year, that increased to 499. Thats the highest number of murders in the city in three decades. Lets bring in philadelphias police commissioner, danielle outlaw. Thank you very much forjoining us. 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