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Thats when you noticed the changes in his vision. And you described some of those changes in his behavior in that time frame right. Here do you recall telling the f. B. I. That there would be times that he would just be open bouncing around and then there would be times he would be. Unintelligible. I dont know if there. Would you disagree if i said that in the transcript about. The prosecution question the paramedic who treated george floyd at the scene and who described his condition when they arrived did you. Discuss with your partner in fact why next step. Yeah he walked back towards me and i. Asked. If he heard it rest and he said i think so. So use the word cardiac arrest what does that. Mean its a term were going to use for anybody thats not responsive not breathing. And doesnt have a pulse currently. So essentially does that mean that someones heart stopped yeah. Well lets cross live now to gabriel in the zonda who is live for us in minneapolis following that trial is so far its been a sort of almost day of 2 halves very emotional testimony from George Floyds girlfriend perhaps a more a technical look at the reactions of the 1st responders and especially the timings of when everyone got to the scene that lets focus 1st on Courtney Rosss testimonial what were your takeaway moments. Well clearly it was testimony that at the beginning was very powerful as she talked about her love for george floyd in 1st meeting george floyd it was she had sometimes cried sometimes laughed when thinking about some good memories of him and it really helped to again humanize george floyd but then the prosecution went right in and asking her about their addiction and you would think why would the prosecution bring this up well they wanted to get out the front of this because everyone agrees its not in dispute that drugs floyd had a problem with Substance Abuse and it was in his blood at the time of his death according to the autopsy reports thats not of dispute the question becomes is how much did that play into his death now the defense the prosecution says it didnt play anything into his death the defense says otherwise they say that that was the key element that led to his death so thats why this was brought up and i think both sides both the prosecution and the defense certainly were able to use mr ross to their advantage of training get what they want to have out of her and thats obviously something that were going to see develop that issue all of the drugs in his system is obviously an issue thats going to be developed as the trial continues focusing on the testimonies that we then heard we heard from 2 paramedics and a Fire Department employee a lot of detail about who you know who arrived at what time and what they did is this the prosecution trying to really paint the picture of what state george floyd was in when they arrived. Yeah they are because everything from the prosecution standpoint kind of flows together in one long story lets remember the prosecution right now is calling all of the witnesses they are presenting their case may be next. Week maybe the week after next we dont know in the coming days they will hand over to the defense and the defense will start calling witnesses that are more favorable to the defense but right now all of these people that are being called do bolster the prosecutions argument that george floyd was dead when the paramedics arrived on scene and thats what the testimony of these paramedics and the one firefighter. Attest to all of them say that when they arrived george floyd did not have a pulse he did not appear to be alive and when they arrived the paramedics say derrick show friends was still on George Floyds neck and according to the paramedics nobody was offering any sort of help to try to resuscitate him even though he did not have a pole so all of this is part of the bigger strategy by the prosecution to lay out the case of when george floyd died and that is according to the prosecution i should say is he died when he had derek show friends on his neck for more than 9 minutes gabriel is under with the latest they are following the trial in minneapolis for escaped thank you lets go back to Ronald Sullivan professor of law and director of the criminal Justice Institute at Harvard Law School joining us by skype from newton in massachusetts sir great to talk to you again i mean we saw in the earlier testimony by George Floyds girlfriend Courtney Ross the issue of drugs come up which almost invariably we are going to see more of when that the fence have their time mainly in court just remind us when it comes to the prosecution actually getting a guilty verdict for the 2 tougher charges so murder 2. 00 and 3. 00 what is it that they have to prove when it comes to the issue of drugs do they have to prove that it might have been a factor but not the main one just talk us through it these. Right well they have to prove that the drugs were not the cause of death but rather Something Else was the cause of death so drugs may have contributed in the sense that his body was in a particular condition but there is a concept in the law that says that you take your victim where he is in civil law they call it the example plaintive rule and it simply means that if someone is is impaired the person in harms that person just assumes the risk associated with that so that drugs are in his system the prosecutors will argue is is is a fact but its not a dispositive effect meaning that it is the case doesnt turn on it so unless of course the defense can show that drugs were the cause of death and thats hard to do conceptually because so its a its kind of a mixed bag the defense is able to show that george floyd was on drugs had drugs in a system but the prosecutor very effectively crossexamined or or ribbit rehabilitated its witnesses by saying in these prior occasions when george floyd was on drugs he didnt die diddy of course was no so the question is whats different about this situation whats different about this situation they were argue is that an officer had his knee on his neck and that was the the major factor that contributed to the death. Another aspect of the testimonies that weve heard today are as i mentioned at the set of the 1st responders that got to the scene and certainly i thought the testimony from their experience said the paramedic he said 2 things he said he was trying to give george floyd a 2nd chance at life but he also admitted that he thought george floyd was the head when he arrived on. On the scene again how crucial is it to prove insofar as possible that i suppose that the damage had been done before they came that that since george floyd was no longer responsive potentially that is when he died right its important to the prosecutions case because theyre going to say listen ovoid all the noise dont listen to the rest of these claims youre hearing he died after children put his knee on his neck and i would say its clear even the paramedics came and they see it he was did every medical official who deal with them medical professional rather who dealt with george floyd. That he was nonresponsive they had to him to bait him it is put a breathing tube down his throat so its really important for the prosecution to establish them in the minds of the jurors because remember that the fence only has to have reasonable doubt so it could take just one juror to have a doubt a reasonable doubt that the death was caused by the need in the neck and if the defense gets that been an a minimum its a mistrial so its really important for the prosecution to try to dispel any idea that anything other than the in the neck in the knee was the proximate cause for George Floyds death obsessor id like to go over that again because i think that thats key so basically for any one of the jurors has any doubt that maybe the drugs that were in george floyd system had something to do with the cause of death effectively theres a hung jury and we could see a retrial is that correct. Thats absolutely correct each juror has to vote her or his conscience and you can have one holdout one holdout and thats it a conviction has to be unanimous in the u. S. System so one juror can hold out and indeed you can bit that the defense lawyer at closing is going to look at the jury and say ladies and gentlemen each and every one of you has to vote your conscience just because one person does one thing doesnt mean you have to if you believe in your heart after listening to the evidence that there is a reasonable doubt you are duty bound you are duty bound to vote to acquit and im so big that they just need one and if you have one holdout then its a its a mistrial and it goes on and on for give me theyve just started again in lets go in the small. No previews they were going to reach in Minnesota Police department for 6 months and after working at richmond youve moved to the minneapolis Police Department is that right pratt did you do your Academy Training through minneapolis Police Department i did. And you receive your post license through me i have this is that right yes. And you are sworn Law Enforcement officer yes and what does that mean to be a sworn Law Enforcement officer less is the state of minnesota through the Police Officer standard training or and do you take a specific oath to be a sworn officer yes. And can you tell us a little bit about your career with the minneapolis Police Department you start out assuming a troll yes mr patrol and how long did you work as a troll officer to approximately 2001 promoted to search and what shift did you start troughs. Dock watch dog watch us you dont know overnight. Starting typically. Across the united night so were right in as a Patrol Officer with the minneapolis Police Department. What were your typical duties. Traffic Law Enforcement responding to 911 call. Kind of 911 call if you typically respond to. Domestics accidents anything people calls for. General Law Enforcement reactive sometimes that raid occurred that proactive being on a troll. After 5 years on patrol duty different assignment. Yes i was in the Community Response team for a while and what is the Community Response. Or of a Proactive Team dealing with. Things like narcotics prostitution and the kind of search warrants and did that do that yes a troll or have jurisdiction over the entire city or was it a within a particular precinct that was in the 5th precinct. And you said you were with for a few years what to do after that i was promoted in 2001 and worked in a forgery and tried it for a short time and what rank were you promoted to sergeant and is that the rank that you retired yes or approximately what year than 3 promoted to sergeant you can remember to those one. And most of your most recent assignment you have are certain i was a sergeant in the precinct. Watch whats the watch if those 3 oclock in the afternoon until one of or. At this time id like to. Offer im sorry publish exhibit 268. And all at. The exhibit. 268 is a precinct map is that correct yes 33 same to minneapolis and you see that there are some additional numbers as well you can. Can you describe what you see here the 3rd precinct we have the number 3 and underneath a 320 those are some districts within the precinct so the precinct is divided into districts and then from there divided into particular sectors is that right correct midwatch shift sergeant what were your responsibilities. Supervisor to the entire preaching to the officers under me on the midwatch shift. Supervisor Police Officer what are your responsibilities with respect to the other officers and their duties. Take a look at the reports prove those. Theyre actually. Busy these let nature do you have to assign officers right or yes i do do you have to brief officers at the beginning of the shift thats correct to do a roll Call Briefing every afternoon before they started just please describe for the jury what a roll Call Briefing. And take any. Things from the department. Procedures pastoral people who are wanted for crimes just literally going to be going on for the new home just roll call usually take probably 15 minutes and this is done at the beginning of chef yes proximately how many officers that would roll call typically. To 14. And see if you said that youd be distributing policies and procedures im assuming then you have to be through 1000000 of those policies procedures yourself is that right curt. So youre familiar with the minneapolis Police Department policy and procedure manual yes and as it gets updated you push those updates out other officers you supervise is that right correct. Do you also occasionally review and approve reports officers supervise. And do you also review their active reviewing uses of force yes what do you call it when sergeant reviews Police Officers use of force force review report. Could you please describe the process of a force review. The cleanup sure would call me heard would be notified by radio theyd use force on a suspect or arrest a party i would have note interview the officer interview the subject of the force was used on. Take a statement from from both of them and then complete a report on that which would eventually be routed down to the internal affairs unit and her certain circumstances where officer uses force which theyre required to notify us can you tell us of your recollection what the circumstances are. Forced on a handcuffed for any type of force on and cry of prisoner would result in me doing that strikes any injury or claimed injury by. A party. And so when an officer uses force Patrol Officer and hear their supervisor there are circumstances that they have to report to you under circumstances where they just dont is that right colonel there are some circumstances where they have to write a report and. Do not draw right so if you know youre with the use of force reporting requirements fire dash real service that policy generally you have to read the headline of a for me to get it well im sure youve done once been marked for jennifer keishas exhibit 221. 00. By the dash 306 you read the title or. Use of force reporting in post history conference and you see the items oh im sorry your are at this time the c. Offers exhibit 221. The parties yesterday will esoteric over. The minneapolis plans policies that were in effect on may 25th 2020 they are going to be received by you as exhibits 2063234 what the stipulation means or another words an agreement between the parties that they do not have to provide witnesses well actually provide the foundation in the proof that these are the exact policies and that they were in effect a may 25th 2020 are simply saying that you may accept these policies as being the policies in place on may 25th 2020 without any further testimony or evidence and so on that basis the state is offering 2063234 as accurate yes or 2 or 6 or 234 are received pursuant to stipulation and also offer an exhibit to 6268 any objection to 68. For. 2 things the it is easy all right then referring you back to exhibit 21 if you see 5 yes 3 o 6 thats the use of force reporting and post incident require yes serious turn. No cameras report requirements of carriage for those are all free any of her every parade exists now its referred to as the fumes report yes we just call the Police Report ok so there are certain circumstances where no Police Report is required for a use of force a less injury or an alleged injury has occurred is that right yes right in and if you could it would you clear that you are. Please proceed to the next page of 221. Highway for top portion queries and so different uses of force that do not require a Police Report if you just read the list there its going to hold joint manipulations pressure points handcuffing and gun drawn youre pointing right. Now there are also circumstances in which a Police Report is required but they dont need to notify you as a supervisor is that right in one of those circumstances johnson completion what does it take down and putting somebody on the ground. And then if you can up the page there are certain circumstances in which report is required and supervisory notifications requires that you know what are those circumstances. When they sustained an injury or had to render medical aid. Now when you as a supervisor notified by the troll officer that they used force because of a alleged injury what do you do. To the scene to interview both the officers and the. The force was used and youve already explained that you also have to write a forced report to senator and when is that force report required to be completed before we had to shift. If we could go back to you 1st piece of that exhibit 221 i. Also like to draw your attention to the 1st paragraph under medical assistance and if you could please highlight that portion. Under medical assistance could you please read the provision thats. Called out here. Soon as reasonably practical determine if anyone was injured regular medical aid consistently training and request e. M. F. He amass if necessary so the requirement under policy is to call the ambulance and to render emergency aid while youre waiting for the ambulance is that right. I know and like to talk to you about another. Policy and if i could pull up exhibit 225 you familiar with minneapolis Police Department policy governing use of maximal restraint technique or how will. You consider a very high level can you explain what a hobble is. Basically device used. To control someones hands or feet at the same time to prevent them from kicking or to go to grossly is this a situation in which the subject would already be handcuffed. And so you the hands would be restrained how would the feet straight. The billy hold together with the hobble and then the end of the hov oftentimes drag through the bells somewhere by the waist to prevent them from kicking. In that was my next question that would be the purpose is to prevent the kicking of a restraint subject is that right humans and the hubble or maximal restraint also require supervisory report is that right it does. If you highlight section running for. 3. And you can see here by policy that a supervisor shall we call to the scene where a subject has been restrained using the m r t r how is that right yes and then as a supervisor you would have to go into valuate whether the hobble was properly and necessarily used as a right. And then if you could highlight section b. Age. After a hobble is used on a individual and typically when i have always use it means that the person has been placed in a prone position is that right 1st grade at least initially to get the how why you explain to the jury with the prone position basically flat on your stomach on the ground. Once a hobble is used to restrain the hands of the feet and subject as in the prone position what is the policy require an officer to do put him in a site recovery position what is the side recovery is it basically or almost other side to the east agree theyd rather than leave a leg other side or just and do you know why thats important. Its well if you are sober or even better for the have it all the way to their chest get some other side really is your are you familiar with the term positional asphyxia you know so well how are you familiar with that. Weve been training in computing. How long have you personally done aware of positional asphyxia. 1015. You based on your experience as a minneapolis Police Officer is that are the dangers of positional asphyxia generally known throughout the department you know thats something that officers are trained on current. In we talk about positional asphyxia at a high level could you explain what positional asphyxia as you. Restrain somebody or leave him other chest and stomach for too long their breathing can become compromised and so you want to get up out of that position after oil so. Itll suffer a breathing complications and thats why the policy requires the training is that you roll someone out to the site recovery. Are you aware of whether or not. People are allowed to be transported in the in the prone position i believe they should be transferred the recovery position. And when you talk about you know the need to. Roll someone into the recovery position to leave you really youre talking about a situation where the pressure is from the subjects own body that right there could be does not necessarily include additional pressure that might imply occurred so the danger is there without anyone pressing out. The time please. Were you working as a sergeant supervisor in the 3rd precinct made in may of 2020. And at that time what were your duties as a patrol surgeon. By before a report approval monisha for the night roll call. And use force reporting in again you were working the midwatch shift is that right yes and made 252020 where you also were working as a surgeon i was. Oh. I did ask you if youre familiar with an individual needs your shop showing apologize how are you familiar with this 1st he was an officer a shift how long youve known him. Probably since around 2008. So he was already working as an officer when you were hired. I dont think he was what i was hired but it eventually was on my shift yes he was on your shift correct. Do you recognize mr sherman in court today i do would you please point to him right there in the record reflect that the witness is a done to fight the defendant. Could you please just describe your relationship with mr show he was about your little wash with me im just a proximately 2000 a so youve been there a number your show supervisor is strictly a working relationship credit you her socialize with him outside of a work setting no. You familiar with an individual need to tell i am how do you know mr tao he was right it was shift proximately how long did you know him. Probably approximately 5 years. You have a similar relationship with mr tallas you do the defendant. And then i need to ask you thomas lane alexander can you recognize those names i do they were new officers of a shift. Were you on duty at around 8 30 pm on the 252020. And what were you doing at that time. I think i just had back into the office after doing some patrol on the street and when you do patrol were you use a body camera i do. Something thats required of all officers including supervisors is that right curt. You have different means of communicating with the Police Officers you supervise dispatch when youre out of control what do you use a radio and cell phone. Do you recall approximately 8 30 pm receiving a telephone call from the dispatcher i do what was dispatchers. Can you please describe for the jury what he said to you in this telephone call. To. Say she didnt mean to be a snitch. Well viewing a camera that she thought was concerned it was called let me know about it. At this time im going to ask the publishers of the town. Apologies exhibit 12. 1028 this is genoa gentlemen here whats up so i just wanted to let you know about the person with a knife at 26 watchability 10 and then i dont know you can call me that if you want to but we have the cameras up for 3 points call paul did they have to put him in the name of the body started with a camp. And 320. 00 over a cup. I dont know if they had to use force or not they got something out of the back of the squad and all of them sat on this man so i dont know if they needed to or not but they havent been to me yet you know there are certain or so you have to take out those are called. No problem we dont get to ever see it so when we see that were just like will well a little different if they bother but 20. 130 do you recognize your own voice in that telephone call. You made a reference to possibly can you please explain to the jury what that gives you strength taken some clues of the ground placement that was something the trigger for use of force so she was sure. So per the policies it was just a takedown that would not necessarily be reportable to a supervisor. And you ever received a call like this from a dispatcher before. Not in those exact terms but a few other times just pictures of call me if they saw something that concerned. And so these on that call did you decide to make some further inquiry i did what did you do call officer shot. At this time and asked to publish exhibit 75. And i call it how you. Are. Really but we just. Like i volunteer was. Crazy what. What what what go in the back of the uk. All right. Yes youre thinking. Now sir you recognize the voice in that call. Whose voice is that observation that was the conversation or at least his end of the conversation as you recall it you just described he made a reference to shutting off can you explain what that was in reference to a protester vs a camera on or off secret a private conversation and that would be within policy within the body or can see for him to shut off during that conversation is that right. Ari can you describe the best you can recall the conversation that you had with the defendant after you cut. You can see us again yes or are you please describe the conversation with the defendant that the defendant made to you during the rest of that call. The levy told me that. They had tried to put mr floyd but it wasnt the time of time mr floyd in the car he become combative think you mentioned that he didnt use either is nose or a small of a bloody lip i think and. Eventually after struggling him with him while he suffered a medical emergency and an ambulance was called and. Initiated had to go to the scene. Is that the extent of what you can remember the defendant telling you about this since it was basically a did he tell you whether he personally of why did he particular type of force or restraint to mr floyd. I dont believe so. Tell you whether or not he had to or other officers pin mr thwaite to the. I think the conversation that he said something about help somebody dont did he mention anything about putting his knee mr floyds neck or back no. It is the placement of a d subjects neck a use of force yes a reportable type of force. Not necessarily unwise. For handcuffing somebody to pro position or fighting with someone it could happen where your knee ends up on their neck for about whole law. Just whatevers reasonable which would be when. You get control of the party yes. Control is in a person is that can cost and you have to. Continue to fight if you any more so once the person once the subject is no longer resisting yours at that point restraint. All right after you spoke with the defendant would you do. I headed down to the 30th of chicago where he was at. His side as to publish exhibit one. 30th in chicago as well then the 3rd precinct is that correct yes and. Recognize exhibit one i do. You see the area foods the dragon walk in the speedway is that right correct can you please describe what you saw when you arrived at the scene. I think you pulled up in the. Officer standing near the squad car and there are made a bit he a mess vehicle still on scene and a few people Milling Around did you recognize the officers i did or did you speak to anybody prior to your arrival. Or shaaban called me just as i was arriving but it only lasts a 2nd because i was like a half a block out said ill be right there at this time it has to publish to 67. Showing you a photo taken from your own body were a camera and can you see the time stamp there. 204526 seconds right and you can see the name is this your cell phone. Yes and its you see that youre receiving a call from the defendant is that right looks like maybe im about being oh ok yes can you please just describe this conversation thats you can call i think you just asked where it was i may be. Right there and talk in person. And you can see you could see from if you put 267. You recognize the building that you were here right. Now all right if you could pull up exhibit one. All right if you take a look can you recall exactly where you were when you pulled up as youre receiving that call. Who were into the parking yes. I think ive heard over near the trigger walk kind of in that corner there right and if you could pull up exhibit 267 again. The building appeared to be the drag yes. And obviously since we have this photo of your body were a camera was activated as a right you know as you recall at what point you have to the camera probably want to block so. At the time you were you thinking that you were going to need to do it. Based on the description that the defendant gave you youve already indicated you didnt know there was pressure applied to the neck is that right did you get any sense from the defendant how was. This last no i didnt have any idea. When you arrived a scene based on your rank and being a supervisor did you become the senior officer in charge yes. Did you see the officers that you previously mentioned the defendant thomas lee to tao and Alexander King present i did did you have some conversation with those officers about the us where the 4 of the officers in a group at the time you had this conversation yes the people who were talking were thomas lane and Alexander King is that right the defendant was nearby and in a position to hear you. And at that time you received a summary of what happened from officer lane and officer king as i write yes both of them gave you a statement kind of joining each other right now without talking about what specifically that statement was after you heard their addition of the events did you take that information and use it to determine the next steps that you would take. And based on that conversation were you told that there would have been a restraint of an individual to believe the so they handcuffed him and did you learn that an ambulance had the idea and did you learn that the person that had been restrained was taken away in the ambulance. Where was that person to take him to any Medical Center. Based on that conversation when did you decide to. I decided to drive down to the head of becoming Medical Center myself to check on purpose condition before going to the head of the county Medical Center did you give any direction to the officers. And leave something out of the suspect vehicle and. Get 3 witnesses and maybe your own. Who did you direct to do that i believe officer layton king. Did you give any interaction to officer to tao or the defendant. Had become a Medical Center. And then you proceeded to leave the scene to go in and out of the county medicals. Before you actually left the scene did you have further conversation or direction. That. I dont think so. Do you recall speaking with the defendant about the need to potentially interview witnesses yes i did 1st witnesses that was captured of the body work camera is that right you should have videos youve had an opportunity to review that footage. At this time im going to ask publish exhibit 266 and also it has a published 265 different renditions of the same conversation in exhibit 266 you will see more of the body possession of the defendant as youre having this conversation next exhibit youll hear the. Yes sure. Your offer exhibits to 65 to 66. Elusive decided to publish to 66. Did you recognize your own voice in that clip or is a canard here closer to here but its sort of like me ok and you saw that officer. Sheldon the defendant was leaned up against your squad cars that right you know and then if this we can publish to 65. So you heard yourself directing the defendant to find witnesses that right yes and the defendant told you that he could try it with the pretty hostile yes but you asked him to do it anyway yes. And then when you drove away where did you go and county Medical Center. Do you know approximately how long it took you to arrive. I guess when youre 10 minutes what did you do once you reach the head of the county Medical Center i went into the. Whats the stabilization room where they tick patients for critical and work on them there what did you see when you arrived at the stabilization they are working on george floyd. The lucas machine going wish those. Compressions. Who is working on the current Medical Center shaft doctors nurses hole of do you think you watched staff work on mr floyd a few minutes maybe. Did you see. Or speak with any of the Staff Members who were working on mr floyd with the nurse will those are we did you ask the nurse for any information to get a condition update. I did what did the nurse tell you. He was doing better poorly. Now or you were of whether per your direction the defendant officer tao eventually arrived at the head of the county Medical Center did you see him in the stabilization room or near the stabilization room i think both sides. Exhibit 77 is a body work camera photo of the defendant the senate seat offers exhibit 77. And publish exhibit 77. And you see the defendant the president hears us. And also noting the time on the body were in camera 21. 00 all 5 of 7 seconds is that right yes so one night or 5. And you also see our officer to tell us. After the nurse told you that mr floyd was doing poorly what did you do. Believing it may be a conversation with a tenor manson whose car night that night. With some tenants thats when his new tenant thats all right hes kind of in charge of the city in the evening and what was the nature of your conversation. I think it just. Flew was doing poorly. I think he was on the phone with internal affairs of the time given. What was going on. Did. Exhibit 78. 00 is another image from the bodywork camera depicting lieutenant madsen offerings at 78. 00. 78 is received oh shes a bit subdued. Right what do you see in this photo. Of myself some of the hospital staff. And it was after you made these observations and you spoke with lieutenant massa. Did you tell him after your conversation with lieutenant madsen to gather more information from the defendant and officer towel and yes i think you requested me to ask them if theyd use any other force. And did you have that conversation with the defendant. Do you recall what the defendant told you to study notes on floyd or notice next something you at meijer i dont recall it is exact words. Is that the 1st time you became aware that force had been applied to mr floyds back. Yes. Did the defendant tell you whole lot he had applied pressure to or restrain mr floyd. Apply pressure to his neck you know. At some point did you receive yet another update on mr floyds medical condition i did somewhat approach me let me know that he passed away and after you learned that mr floyd passed away that changed the nature of the incident you were responding to was deemed Critical Incident one is a Critical Incident. From their past as way please trust the college to shooting her or somebody shot and killed by Police Things that major. And what are your responsibilities that would shift sergeant when a Critical Incident happens area over which you have supervisory or. Needs to be rolled up with police tape evidence preserved. Cameras make sure that youre back on. What has to be done with the people who are involved in the Critical Incident they need to be kept separate actually transported to the courthouse. In this case to take specific steps that were consistent with a Critical Incident. What did you do. Got a home search and john edwards was the. Over a supervisor who just came on and asked him to head down to 30 into chicago and secure that scene and then. Leave it to hold this mother sergeant. Brides for the involved officers dont do city hall. So. Hes contacting Sergeant Edwards youre essentially handing off the actual physical scene to the next supervisory sergeant 3rd precinct. And you were able to secure transport officers rides for officers plain and king. I dont recollect if it was me who found the range for those 2 or. Somebody to have figured out. Can you describe your interactions with the defendant after you discovered that mr floyd had passed away. Other than ask you dont know what a way to. Much of whats want to a lot we want to waste one of the rooms of the city hall where the officers are going to gather to be interviewed and stuff after the Critical Incident. What did you did you then proceed to room 108 i did what did you do you have to proceed we want to wait. I mostly just waited until the officers were interviewed and eventually headed back to the 3 precinct station did you have any further interaction with the defendant room want to wait or the other Ministry Personnel to church. Pretty much other ministry to personnel. After directing edwards to secure the scene making sure that the officers reported as they were supposed to did you had some point gather some additional evidence. I did when was that. I was back in the 3rd precinct. I believe officer. Lane approached me and i forgot. Information it was caucus witness information that hed taken from somebody in the vehicle internet over to me which i turned over to another option to be property inventory. And after inventory that information or that material if you have any other. Involvement in the case i would rush a report on turning that information over and that was it for the day. When is your shift on that night i dont recall what time i left the station many. Now didnt you have not reviewed the bodywork camera footage associated with this case is that right and as the supervisory shifts sergeant your person typically does force right. And to clarify your testimony from earlier the restraint of an individual on the ground is a form of force correct yes. Restraining someone on the ground handcuffed thats considered to be prone position correct curd. Would you agree that a person may be restrained only to the degree necessary to keep them under control yes and no more restraint. Based upon your review of this incident do you believe that the restraint should have ended at some point in the. Ground. Or. And we have just watched steve sly who from the prosecution. Examine the witness david plugger now retired officer with the minneapolis Police Department he was the supervisor on shift on the 25th of may 2020 which of course is when george floyd died a lot of detail again of him showing up at the scene of the confrontation you know