Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 20210312 : comparemela.com

Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 20210312



100000000 shots in people's arms in my 1st 100 days in office tonight i can say we're not going to meet that goal we're going to beat that goal because we were actually on track to reach this goal of 100000000 sharks in arms on my 60th day in office no other country in the world has done this not me more as military is being accused of torturing and persecuting anti kook protesters a un expert says it may amount to crimes against humanity the military rejects the claims at least 70 people have been killed since the coup on february 1st. the un is held a special session on the rising threat of hunger especially in yemen and ethiopians t. gray region the u.n. secretary general says more than $5000000000.00 is needed to prevent millions of people dying of starvation this year. thailand is the latest country to delay its rollout of the astra zeneca vaccine on thursday denmark norway and iceland suspended use of the job after several reported cases of blood clotting including one death the danish health agency says it's not established a link between the vaccine but it will stop using the job for 2 weeks to investigate several countries have said they're going to continue using the astra zeneca vaccine france and canada say the benefits outweigh the risks and see no reason to suspend injections. officials in brazil are warning hospitals in major cities a nearly full the number of people dying from covert 900 every day exceeded 2000 for the 2nd day running on thursday intensive care units in more than half of state capitals are reported to be at least 90 percent of their capacity and those are the headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after the stream we'll see in about a half an hour good bye what should americans be thinking right now. they don't care about their work is all they care about is making. calling. friends. the bottom line on u.s. politics and policies and their effect on the world. china is preparing to host the winter. treatment of its. population. and. part of. the united nations says that at least $1000000.00 we have been detained in mass prison camps in the region in recent years activists say that prisoners have been subjected to torture false labor and of mass sterilization and a new independent report has found china to be in breach of all 5 acts of genocide as defined by united nations despite growing evidence china has denied any wrongdoing in changing the country's foreign minister recently said that beijing's treatment of week as was a shining example of china's human rights progress and this week a former minister spokesperson criticize boycott schools. we're going to go somewheres compartments and even gone so far as to pass bills approaching the absurd frost the tories with products slanders and smears trying or shorter and up and damaging their own reputation and making themselves the laughing stock. and now more countries are starting to openly challenge china's narrative top officials in at least 3 countries the united states canada and the netherlands have recently condemned beijing's treatment of the weaker people as genocide rights groups are now lobbying politicians corporate sponsors and athletes to boycott the olympics joining us to discuss this is moment john jr he is the deputy director of radio free asia is weak as service on us out is an attorney and africa it and sophie richardson is china director of human rights watch all 3 guests are based in washington d.c. welcome to i guess i have to say that we also asked chinese government officials to join us they declined but they responded immediately they sent us quotes from the foreign ministry of spokespeople who have ready made quotes and comments in different news articles it is really good to see you again this is a difficult topic for us to have to wrestle with because why why we still talking about this year's. years later let me show you one china government official's response to a lot of the increased knowledge about what is happening to the weak as in china picture number one wake up people as seen by the general public in their daily lives up in china picking up a 2 week of people inching jiang while china by the western media amid the intensifying sond us against china but not jumping to number one what do you say hey this is supposed to rely think china well what are you saying here that the great picture by the way but whenever we look at the chinese media training leaders and the people traders dancing all the time and look at the pure you see people dancing we say to people have not seen my leg you know inform people get it right this is what this is how holding camp you know this is how the west according to china say is the way to people and these are the some of the people who are in. canada australia and turkey these people have relatives in the camps who have lost their parents. even children to the camps they're searching for their relatives actually and they are given voices and the media actually on the contrary trying i didn't give any voice any permission for them to speak to the relatives even make one call so these are the people portrayed and given the space under vested media actually where had you have been on the stream in fact so famous you've all been on the stream over the years you've been telling us increasingly how the situation for the winter people is coming was what is different right now in terms of the information we know right. well 1st i just want to jump in on the last comment you know that is not the proper representation of the general public if anything my family as a general public and i'm looking for my brother and my pin straight now like i mean i can't imagine excruciating. or parents still looking for a girl missing son for almost 5 years and if you look at that picture it really show this chinese government's very anti muslim narrative yes and the picture on the right one they selectively presented pictures a more conservative or you get people against the pictures on the left you know like we good community have a very diverse community say once when he jabber in the 2nd picture. i mean heavy messaging there seems like and shows you know racism and islamophobia and muslim. sentiment of the chinese government so let's be clear on the facts because you know people like me like who are basically still looking for their family members and that is the community but i just feel like i need to jump in on that you know make this a pitch at a picture says a 1000 wasn't there so much debt and that picture again let me just go back to the 1st so where are we right now there were not allegations a lot and you were telling us about festival people just disappearing and i know you have personal stories ran you've got personal stories so for you a look at this from a human rights position what has changed where we are right now in 2021. well i think some of the newest even that we've got is about the extent of forced labor. that people who are arbitrarily detained are also now being made to work through things like labor transfer programs but the scope. of it all camps one dimensional we would talk to them until recently with the skyrocket. you know we think as opposed to the numbers of people who are simply being put in arbitrary detention facilities and it's hard to tell what exactly has driven mad but we're extremely concerned because not only will these people not of have fair trials but also the sentences that people are getting are horrific on the average has gone from about 5 years on baseless charges now to upwards of a decade baseless charges and i think that you know largely speaks to the chinese government's agenda of keeping people silent in the reach of all and breaking apart families and you know. china breach in every article in the genocide convention says a legal report on weekends right. now in fact i'm actually part of the team that presented the world it's clear and convincing evidence that china actually be responsible for committing on going genocide in breach of the genocide convention and the clear and convincing. evidence that it is a pretty high stress hold for me and for those of you your audience who don't understand the legal standard and that's what this report does you know we came together more than 50 independent legal experts as well as regional experts and that is a fact and aren't i think so free mention a really good point right now b.c. internment camps are being turned into kremlin prison camps hoping larch members are that innocent where you good people and you know i just found out and recently that my brother is actually since january 2019 as being held in solitary confinement just think about a for a 2nd when a young man who walks into these internment camps and after more than 2 and a half years there holding solitary confinement what does that do to your physical and mental health you know i can imagine like what what kind of life he's living he looked like a ghost in a few minutes we deal that the chinese government showed and it's absolutely despicable it's considered to be torture under the international norms what the tennis game is doing to my own brother and millions of innocent people who and this is a very basic question but for people who are just trying to understand why will china do this why with a holiday why was there such a terrible state he said he was skin and bones when you go lots to and you caught him on a video can you explain just just. why would china do this look i think at the end of the day the hate actually became a state policy there's so much deeply rooted racism against people if the fact in fact if i could quote a chinese official what he said is that we're trying to turn people to normal people. who speaks like that it like when you are targeting and make group and say look we're turning them to normal so our we have normal is that the statement my brother is like a very successful entrepreneur who's doing years by the chinese government and milky came to the united states honesty department sponsored program then he they labeled him as the enemy of the state so the leaked official documents off the chinese government surveilled that people could be targeted for many reasons one being obviously ethnic group it could be religious persecution as well as just being young and one truly devastating aspect of this intellectuals the finest are we good society is the prime her target for the present and when you target the best of the society the shippers and movers of that society then you would lay the foundation to commit genocide much and i would love it will help here as a journalist because you are personally connected to what is happening in china for your own family members but you also reporting the story so here on my laptop is a night of nations genocide convention as a journalist can you just go for one to 5 killing members of the group evidence of that please mama done yes. because the fishermen rights groups and according to some new news confirmation that we are complacent in the local areas and if they come. indicate that actually some reports at in one camp we confirmed $150.00 people died in it and it's short time period so and some some people are died after they were being released so even though we cannot confirm mass mass deaths in the camps but after happening that that's for sure and at this moment like we talked about the 50500000 where your kids are being kept rated from their families they're still held in the government that's number 5 on for simply just transferring children of the going to a novel yet causing serious fastening and mental harm to members of the people we heard about and i had a brother that that's number 2 number 3 in fact inflicting conditions calculated to bring about the pope's physical destruction in holland pot this is huge what is that you know i'm hot. well much of that is resemble that could be we can say that. there are some subjected to mental and physical torture in the camps and outside the camps they are subjected to brainwashing. they are subjected to abolish their. their cultural identity for example and their living spaces living freedom and from every aspect of being kind of restricted and china and many many chinese officials to stay with the weakest family to monitor them and we get women is forcefully sterilized and natural birth rate is plummeted for example in cost for a loan 60 percent from 2015 to $2900.00 so when they were forced to this kind of oppression i believe that that would cause physical and mental harm to their body so now we are calling the situation what it is genocide is a situation that's coming up which is the olympics coming up in 2022 and this is something to off on who we spoke to is thinking about now is what or what is happening right now to we the people also missed thinking about the olympics and how what they want to strategize around the olympics i will have a listen. the chinese regime at the moment is simply incapable in unwilling to address its treatment of the legal population and what i mean treatment i mean the genocide that is happening in the 21st century because for far too long the countries and governments have a peace china both politically and economically china one day became this democratic liberal and free nation but there simply hasn't happened in fact it's gotten worse. now the beijing 2022 olympics is right around the corner it is a chance for individuals organizations companies countries and governments to take a stance and say china we do not support your genocide games but the question is how much are those entities willing to give up how much influence power and money are the are they willing to give up the soft power that china offers them sophia's knotting i'm going to put this to sophie but not before i read out the statement from the i say the international olympic committee recognizes the whole human rights but has neither the mandate nor the capability to change the laws of the political system of a sovereign country that's what the i.o.c. says so what do you say. the i.o.c. has the power to swear games are out and about 'd sounds and i think it was a real mistake to to another round of kings in trying to give me a clear. path to list for human rights abuses turns authorities did not live up to the promises that they made beating hard to get both games in the 1st place and the reality of the 12 years later. the chinese government is committing human rights violations of a scope and a scary thought that we haven't seen since the 19898001 square massacre. so the idea that it can host. it's a feel good offense at which the human spirit is celebrated while carrying out horrific violations. really i think strains credulity and it's going to be an obvious rallying point i think not just for the human communities and that we here in turkey muslim the astra but i think it's going to be very interesting to see how athletes who are very outspoken on the. way to having to compete in this environment. i'm just looking here and i know you've got my will showing a little brother story your brother is still missing and this is tweeting he's punished because of your wealth at radio free asia he's innocent and china knows it should be released unconditionally what difference does an upcoming olympics make to stories like yours and other people is it. going to get lost international attention would china be swayed in any way it's like you said my brother makes interim was a high school teacher and writer. is taken away to 17 and in recent news indicate that he might have been sentenced and could get you coming any any any crimes at all like many other innocent leaders who are in the camps and or turn to to to to to the president later so like sylvia mentioned in 2000 they team many international communities argued that olympics would encourage china to improve their human rights records but china didn't. honor any promises that china gave coming it promises they gave to the international community at the time and told late years later we are witnessing genocide according to their reports equating to the us government and i don't know yet if it brings any change to that to the chinese society even writes why but people would say that politicizing olympics is not right but olympics is a politics for china when it's coming it's regime they use that. value or opportunity to legitimize its illegal regime so we try to set it because of that we've made china it world state country while this chicago was not permitted to hold the olympics beijing is given this opportunity to hold on to the 1st night. and a winter olympics was an extraordinary let me share some of the comments on you tube i'm going to ask you to do very efficient very brief response as each of us i appreciate your questions safwan i think governments especially with the muslim majority populations should be seen as they condemn china full 8th ethnic genocide and also call for more independent investigations into the weekend camps so if you take that one just a quick response back to step one i couldn't agree with that person or it's incredibly important to hear those government speak up and we think that an independent investigation is the obvious next step that's what the world does in the face of human rights crises this is but this is terrible i'm going to give this one to you ray this is terrible how can we let this go on and it's 2021 this is modern day holocaust right yeah. yes reluctance go on because we remain as biased that many countries are doing so so your line of this genocide report i would like to see serious diplomatic accountability i'm part of every country especially bill simon jones thing only doing so then we could prevent that we could deter the chinese government from continuing to destroy this group as a whole or in part as the genocide commercial laid out so it's time to take action be a part of teams couple of ideas hey mama jan i'm going to ask you to just respond very quickly and almost bought stock about an efficient trade blockade a little bit by what happened to south africa with apartheid to try and force apartheid to end a lead to more says the nelson nation alone is not enough financial pressure will welcome back to my much on financial pressure with that well with china some companies are trying and they suck but the fed tough situation for many country for example because china will use that if the 2nd biggest economy in the world but economy is the big thing big issue for the chinese regime to stay in power so if they regain suffers from a kind of italy it might change its behavior but it depends on the big companies based on the united states and around the world that played a role in holding chinese government accountable for the atrocity committing against leaders and human rights violations as well as genocide when we talk about genocide i'm asking implicating what. has changed what's different now from the many conversations we've had over the last few years one of the things i have noticed as a journalist at the stream is notice is that there's more a way in s. we spoke to a number of different people who wanted to continent sasso it's to this discussion and this is what i told us have a listen have a lot. perpetrations aren't really challenging the chinese government on this matter for the olympics it seems like a lot of corporations are turning a blind eye. page 2022 is a point of pride for the regime but what we need to do is create a diplomatic way to show the women that we were to say governments around the world have the power to send a strong message to beijing saying that they will not accept the genocide against we were use the repression against the battens hungers mainland chinese people i'm just thinking sophie rahab john at the very end of the show so a single thought about now wh

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