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The Company Pfizer says that it will be able to roll out 20000000. 00 doses within 24 hours of the approval so we could be looking at the vaccine being delivered to various states as soon as a sunday but its truly astounding its taken 9 months to develop this particular vaccine in emergency use and one must put this into context because the previous fast as Vaccine Development was that 4 months which took 4 years to develop the u. S. Supreme court has rejected a legal bed from the state of texas to overturn Donald Trumps election defeat trampled back the lawsuits would stop sought to throw out the results in 4 key states where joe biden has won several other of the eagle challenges have been rejected across the country. The 1st International Aid convoy has arrived in the ethiopian city at the center for recent fighting in the northern to grey region a convoy of 7 trucks in the red cross will distribute medicines and other supplies to hospitals and mccully iran has executed a dissident journalist convicted of fueling antigovernment on rest. Was captured by the revolutionary guard and 2019 after years in exile he was the founder of a modern news a social media channel with more than a 1000000 subscribers zam was accused of stoking violence through that channel during protests in 201720. On kong media tycoon and prodemocracy activist jimmy lai has appeared in court to face charges for violating a Controversial National security law Police Accuse him of colluding with Foreign Forces lies the publisher of apple daily which is seen as the last media outlet critical of the government if convicted he could face a life sentence in prison those are the headlines inside story is coming up next. Betrayal of palestinians for political pragmatism rocco says it will reestablish ties with israel the reward is the u. S. Recognition of about sovereignty over the disputed Western Sahara but how does this boost moroccos claim to this territory this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program. Morocco is joining 3 other arab nations in recognizing the state of israel and establishing full diplomatic ties the trumpet ministration negotiated the 4 deals and what many are describing as a quid pro quo style in the case of morocco normalization came in exchange of a u. S. Proclamation of sovereignty trump recognized the kingdom of morocco its claim over the Western Sahara automatically sidelining decades of United Nations efforts to resolve the dispute in that region well get to our discussion in a moment but 1st this report from Stephanie Decker. The announcement came in a president ial tweet calling it a historic breakthrough and a massive breakthrough for peace in the middle east morocco and israel agreed to full diplomatic relations its another victory for the israeli Prime Minister america follows the u. A. E. Bahrain in sudan in recognizing israel and establishing full diplomatic relations this is the foundation on which we can now build this peace will resume liaison offices quickly between israel and morocco and work as rapidly as possible to establish full diplomatic relations we also institute direct flights between morocco and israel and israel morocco giving this bridge of peace and even more Solid Foundation this will be a very warm peace in return to Trump Administration has gone against decades of u. S. Policy and agreed to recognize the disputed Western Sahara region as moroccan. Western sahara has been disputed for decades between morocco and the Pro Independence police are your front the 1st country in the world to recognize. Or 65 countries their. Recognition. And siding with. Only the United States has recognized the claims. Process. For a long time and. International law concerns. Population. In order to get. The palestinians have condemned the agreement saying its yet another country to break a promise of not recognizing israel until the establishment of a palestinian state that more and more arab countries are stablish in ties with israel whereas the reality of a palestinian state seems to fade further and further away its hailed as yet another victory for israel another unilateral move by this Outgoing Administration who have little more than a month left in office Stephanie Decker aljazeera. All right lets bring in our guests in new york at liege a cubs a partner with the Truman National project and president of Public Affairs Consultancy Firm e. J. Strategies from about last and had the Strategic Affairs analyst and a former moroccan minister and then battle it out i mean hootie director of Global Engagement at the American University of beirut welcome to the show and let me start with you this normalization deal between morocco and israel has been discussed for a while now but how much of a shock was it that moroccos agreement was clinched in return for american recognition of moroccan sovereignty over the disputed Western Sahara region. Why i think morocco has had relations with israel in the 1990 s. As part of the osce law accord and morocco has had like here economic relations at that moment and then it cut them when the netanyahu government walked away from the spirit and the letter of the last of chords but i think now is a ripe moment for that to resume while understanding that morocco is very friendly and also has good relations with the palestinians the king of morocco is the president of the committee of jerusalem so i dont think that its walking away from the palestinians but i think its a country could have i mean like an arab country could have leverage with both entities its morocco morocco has like a very large that are in israel and also has very important influence within israel but also has very good relations with the palestinians but i think its good for the peace because the peace has has experimented with a lot of other things i mean like with the war with also because in israel with different kinds of of i mean with the peace accords have been all of that maybe alarming this one this kind of approach with with bear fruits but i dont think that those who say that recognizing or like normalizing the relations with israel means like sidestep in the palestinians or manage life in them i dont agree with that i think it will probably provide an opportunity for that to happen and i think that that morocco has as i mean like there is of course that. The recognition of United States for the west and to have and maybe were going to talk about that but i think the core of the Peace Process in the middle east i think we need to be creative we need to have like new solutions we need to create new realities on those realities will help the with with with probably like bring it to peace and when the king called the Palestinian Leader yesterday where he said this. Said like iraq will stay committed. With the palestinians about it to a state solution about a demo to rely on 1967 about the plight of the day it was a limb should be capital to the countries so morocco is not a way for a good getting away from that but actually its not realizing relations with israel like other countries out of the wind that lot of the rippin countries and other countries they have they they they will do with international kind of the galaxy but at the same time they have relations with both entities ele winning us recognition of moroccan sovereignty over the region has been a chief policy goal and demand for morocco for a long time hasnt yet its a definite seems to be the Biggest Issue the morocco faces diplomatically certainly in the region theres obviously a longstanding tension with the immediate neighbors in the in the region as well as the europeans the u. N. Has has not taken steps to allow the americans to to recognize their sovereignty over the Western Sahara so this was a really big deal and in a in a sense they played their hand very well knowing that donald trump is essentially all about transactions and he just wants to get his name more attached to good deals particularly on the International Stage in the waning days of his presidency so they took what was their main diplomatic goal and as mike as your previous guest just mentioned essentially just reestablish something that was in existence 20 years ago for getting a huge win on their part so the moroccans come out very well in here at as do the israelis as do the americans but i mean how much does this deal benefit israel and how much does it benefit morocco. Well i dont think it really benefits anybody except the United States the moroccans have their views on the Western Sahara and the world does not recognize those views theres a process at the u. N. That has not been implemented thats a very difficult conflict to resolve it has to do with selfdetermination of the moroccan trio that or of case of the moroccan leadership and king feel that this is good for their country we dont know what the moroccan people feel because those Public Opinion views are not always clearly expressed so its hard to tell what this does other than gets an brownie points with a fading slightly delusional american Political Leadership thats leaving the stage now highly discredited all around the world and basically trying to use its power to either free criminals in jail in washington or indicted people in washington or help the israelis and therefore pay favors back to the pros really donors in the United States this is a very because the guests are very transactional the process that doesnt really benefit anybody in the significant way because anybody who has any knowledge of israel the palestinians the middle east know trump knows that the source likely Public Relations jesters more than anything else they dont have any serious impact on the situation on the ground they are a consequence of the lack of movement by the israelis to accept International Law lack of leadership by the palestinians to lead their people towards a remarkable peace and the irony of course is that it was a test in morocco in 1081. 00 that the 1st arab peace plan that was presented that they are for 50 years 40 years now have expressed the desire willingness to live in full peace and relations with israel without having to do side deals on their. On the quiet so this isnt really a not a very serious move its a Public Relations move primarily for the americans on the israeli isnt we dont know what impact itll have in morocco but well have to wait and see the house and i want to take a step back and look at you know that the relationship more broadly between israel and morocco and you know for how long exactly its been warming i mean what have the informal ties between morocco and israel been like. Well we let me just address one issue im like about the impact on morale quite thing that been here in iraq and also seen the really do reaction of a lot of americans they see 1000 very very sorry kim i mean i tell a lot of importance and the Western Sahara issues very sensitive a lot of moroccans and so its its the one issue that is very very highly sensitive for part 4 of 4 of the Public Opinion here in morocco and i think their support of palestinians i mean like and their support also for the moroccan ness of the sahara the 2 most important priorities but to address your question i think that the american the American Jews have left morocco in 1049156161167 make up hundreds of thousands of jews live in israel and they know theyve never cut their ties between israel and more opera so they come back for vacation they came back for pilgrimages there are a lot of jewish saints in morocco and that has been going on for the last 20 something years 25 years or or so and even in liking the government took it with barak at one time there were 8 ministers were americans so there is quite a leverage and influence that rock rap or has with a lot of jews especially the support of the jews that have left mara or of course and i think that paved the way for a lot of euphoria that exists the with the slow chords i mean like in the 1990 s. And probably now im alexian from the reactions of a lot of people the Jewish Community american Jewish Community around the world d and people have been sending me messages about about this they are elated by by this and theyre elated for 2 reasons one of them for the jews its because now its easier for them to come to morocco especially those of support of the chords in this and also because of this kind of historic recognition of the United States after. Over the i think its a watershed this will probably said the big game quite a lot of other recognitions well we know that that has been a lot of companies that have opened consulates in the west. And that of the sovereignty of morocco United States will open one as well in the. City so i think its a watershed its a really a beginning of a big beginning dissolution of the west and the hot issue in favor of rob ellie how much does u. S. Recognition of moroccan sovereignty over the Western Sahara undercut the Independence Movement in that region and could this recognition by the u. S. Fuel instability there i mean how dramatically could things escalate things could dramatically escalate a great deal you know weve seen over the last few weeks some instigation and infighting that has largely been peaceful for the last decade or decade or more i think the big question is whether or not president elect biden when he takes office continues to recognize the Western Sahara as part of morocco its a question i mean just last yesterday afternoon jim an op who is the chairman of the Armed Services committee in the senate gave a blistering speech on the senate floor castigating President Trump for this recognition going around the World Opinion as i believe romney mentioned in terms of the u. N. So any Independence Movement that exists is either a good theyre going to face one of 2 options they can either acquiesce to American Opinion or they can continue to seek their own independence using multi you know Multilateral International bodies like the u. N. Or in a worst case scenario. Go back to Armed Conflict which you know everyone hope wasnt it doesnt happen but he didnt he did you never know what happens when peoples backs are against the law like this and i mean the u. S. Is the only western nation to recognize moroccan sovereignty over the Western Sahara is there a chance from your perspective that u. S. President elect joe biden might try and reverse Donald Trumps decision or is it more likely that he would affirm it its hard to tell you know he put political decisions made by politicians even legitimately elected ones like biden are very hard to predict the politicians react to all kinds of different stimuli and pressures and calculations that have to do with domestic and International Affairs my suspicion is that you know biden. Seems to respect International Law and un decisions and things like that and consensus so its unlikely that he will enthusiastically support this move or he might just kind of freeze it dont do nothing to overturn it but just freeze it and the not make it a. Dynamic process or he might try to push for a renewed u. N. Role to really get some something going on there that could implement the selfdetermination referendum that these are very hard things to predict what is clear is that this is a decision that was made largely largely driven by self interest in a few people in the white house this is not an American National policy the world knows this the world looks at what trump is doing with very little respect especially now that hes leaving so i wouldnt attach that much importance the United States is not the worlds moral or Political Authority it has lost a lot of its credibility around the world so what its doing in the Western Sahara will be determine what happen. Will be determined by the people in morocco or people in western Global International legitimacy and those of remain to be seen but its similar to whats being done end the Israeli Occupation of d the Golan Heights on the west bank and East Jerusalem where the United States under trump unilaterally takes a dramatic move which goes against all international or Global International political consensus so i wouldnt put too much. I would attach too much importance to what the americans just it will just really need to wait till we get to the middle of next year when the Biden Administration and the International Reaction in other places will become more clear that doesnt according to aim a Moroccan Royal Court Statement king hamad called palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas and said that about stands by a 2 state solution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict the king added that negotiations between israel and the palestinians are the only way to reach a final lasting and comprehensive solution to the conflict but what does this normalization deal do when it comes to the negotiating position Going Forward of the palestinians let me just address one issue that the American Interest in moroccos sovereignty over Western Sahara is not like new that has been a congress i mean like a bill passed by congress in 2013 and fined by president obama in 2014 which allows that the aid that gets somewhere up with to us aid could be spent also on Western Sahara and so a lot of countries did not do that before and then United States opened that kind of venue and and and there was have been a lot of protests from from a jury and also from the saudi because thats a defacto recognition of rock with i wouldnt see over western European Union also signed treaties where the morocco and fisheries and a culture. Include the Western Sahara after bit before if you choose not to do that thats also defacto recognition of course and sorry to come back to your question i think what what america is like in relation to the palestinians barak who stands by that by by did gen done by International Law in terms that the did the market demarkation line thank you 67 is the only line that with the existing between the 2 states the 2 state solution is the only solution and jerusalem East Jerusalem the capital of the palestinian state and i think member stations between the 2 countries where apple could play a very Important Role in facilitating that kind of negotiation and i think that what is happening now between palestinian and israelis in terms of reopening the channelers in terms of core the nation of risk unity comes also because of this kind of momentum created by the fact that some arab countries have recognized israel but also pushed in the right kind of direction in terms of never session between the israelis and palestinians. Ellie what do you make of the moroccan governments reaction to washingtons announcements some have suggested that it was a bit more muted than perhaps washington would have wanted to see im not going to fishel said they were committed only to reopening liaison offices with israel not embassies or consulates and they pledged to resume diplomatic relations as soon as possible what does that kind of language suggest oh weve seen polling over the last few years in polling going back to the arab opinion index and of a poll more recently done in the last 6 or 7 months that shows a moroccan approval of israel is somewhere between 4 and 17 percent at the most so this is obviously any recognition of israel may not be very popular with the with the street the socalled street in morocco so downplaying the relations on iraq and on the Moroccan Royal courts part is a smart move politically domestic wise and on the Foreign Policy front it continues to at least in some ways keep pressure on the israelis to continue to try to do something with the palestinian problem the Biggest Issue that the palestinian the primary diplomatic tool the palestinians have had since the oslo accord certainly if not before and is the united support of the arab league the 22 nations of the arab league. Who all signed on to the saudi plan in 2002 that there be no recognition no normalization until a withdrawal to the 167. 00 lines of capital in history. For the palestinians and as each one of these arab countries goes ahead particularly way you bahrain to actually normalize ties it chips away at that the palestinians advantage of having that united block behind them so the continued fact that saudi arabia has not taken more outward normalization steps or even recognition steps morocco sort of downplaying it a little bit keeps hope i would think alive to some extent for the palestinians that they still have the support. And some of their arab allies at the same time the fact that the white house was so ecstatic about this decision by the moroccans that went didnt go as far as normalization ties the way that you were a year behind it could signal that they might be open to saudi doing something similar where its not a full normalization agreement but its something sort of you know a half a loaf getting there that i still dont believe the saudis are anywhere near in a position to do that i just dont see that that that the king will allow that that to happen but i think theres still a lot of time unfortunately for those of us that live in the u. S. Theres still a lot of time in the trumpet ministration until joe biden takes takes office a lot of a lot of very strange things and unproductive precedented as much as the last 4 years have been i can still happen in the next 3030 or 40 days but i mean i saw you nodding along to some of what elie was saying so i want to ask if you have a reaction to what he was saying but also i want to ask you to expand a bit on some of the stuff that elie was talking about i mean despite repeated attempts donald trump has not been able to get saudi arabia to agree to normalization with israel yet despite repeated pressure despite repeated attempts and trips to the region does this deal with morocco make it easier for saudi arabia ultimately to sign on to the idea and i dont think so no these deals that have happened the 4 countries about 3 and a half really because some of them it was only the military side that agreed to do it and the civilian side of the government has criticized them very largely so you have 3 and a half arab leaderships that have done this and the people of these countries mostly dont have the chance to express their free opinion for that but to a large extent so we know from the services that we just heard and others that Public Opinion is strongly supportive of palestine but is willing to live with israel if israel agrees to a post in a statement and say occupation so. There so it is i think are more sensitive to this sentiment them we might see. Can the and possibly its the king versus the crown prince and saudi arabia the difference in age and generation i dont think the saudis and their sound you see themselves as keepers of the you know the Sunni Islamic identity around the world and whatever the holy places so they feel constraints. On them that other countries dont but in the final analysis we need to remember that these sort of decisions are a handful of men who are not politically accountable to their people who rely heavily on International Support military security economic and other support that will matic and therefore we should not mistake these agreements for serious changes in the political environment in the world what these what this agreement do indicate though is the combined incompetence and now i would say illegitimacy of the Palestinian Leadership the Palestinian Leadership has been a catastrophe for the palestinians of over the last 1015 years you can argue they did pretty well up till you know in 1000 that 2010 maybe about it but its been a catastrophe ever sense and the inability of the Palestinian Leadership to lead the palestinians to or to a decent place has allowed these kind of deals to be made by individual arab leaders who have the feel they have nothing to lose when they do this and they have a lot to gain when the americans give them diplomatic goodies or some of them fancy arms and and the emirates and other other kinds of money in sudan therefore these are transactional short term agreements done by a desperate american administration. As it leaves office trying to get some score some good points with arab leaders who. I dont really have any accountability to the people for can do do it over there or im sorry to interject there is just that weve run out of time were going to have to leave the conversation there thank you so much to all our guests ellie jacobs the house and had dad and rami hooty and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website of 0 dot com and for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a. J. Inside story for me mohammed general and the whole team here bye for now. Aljazeera tells the intriguing stories behind 4 classic songs from palestine and. 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