But that has not stopped president from from coming out to address his supporters at the white house this has been one of the most divisive and unpredictable u. S. Elections in memory and even though trump initially trailed biden he quickly picked up Electoral College votes theres no clear winner yet we have just learned that arizona is going to joe biden lets cross over to rob reynolds in los angeles in california hes following the returns on the west coast and rob we were speaking 56 minutes ago about the importance of arizona and then moments later the flip happened tell us more. Yes and the important part is one of the important aspects is that this is a flip this is joe biden taking away a state that was won by President Trump in 2016 and its all the more remarkable because arizona has always been one of the most rock ribbed republican states in the union it is the home state of Barry Goldwater who considered the founder of the modern conservative movement although some of the developments of that movement would probably shock the former senator from arizona the late senator from arizona Barry Goldwater. This state has gone democratic twice in its history once in 1988 when harry truman beat thomas dewey the 2nd time when in 1906 when bill clinton beat. Bob dole rather resoundingly the numbers we have now with 80 percent 82 percent of the vote in is biden 51 and trump 46 percent also in arizona a flip of a Important Senate seat the democratic challenger mike mark excuse me mark kelly has beaten Martha Mick Sally the incumbent republican who was appointed to her seat to fill out the term of the late senator john mccain and i read mccain as well as having some impact in the outcome here in arizona because as many people are aware president from even before he became president rather a spoke rather insultingly of mccain derogatorily saying i dont like people who are. Taken prisoner during war time and mccain of course was a decorated hero of the vietnam. War and spent many years in confinement in North Vietnam and his widow cindy mccain came out a couple of weeks ago and said that she would be voting against donald trump so i think all of that had something to do with trumps loss in arizona as well as massive demographic changes its a very rapidly growing state it has a very large let tino and native American Population and many many people have been moving to places like phoenix and flagstaff and tucson from other places around the country bringing their own brand of politics with them so all in all we have here you know something of a historic moment in american politics amidst all of the confusion the obscurity the uncertainty as to what is going to happen next at least we know one thing that arizona is no longer the solidly republican state it once was or we shall see how that factors into the final outcome time thing thanks very much robin is there in los angeles well both trump and biden have come out to speak in the last few hours we can go to our correspondent can be helped in my kind of standing by with us i mean there were nights my kind i was in wilmington delaware were going live to him shortly but 1st lets go to our White House Correspondent can be how can washington d. C. And kimberly we heard from donald trump weve heard from him via tweet initially and then he came out and spoke at the white house basically accusing the democrats of trying to disenfranchise those voters who say you had voted for him. Thats absolutely right the u. S. President claiming victory saying that what is being conducted right now is nothing short of an attempt to disenfranchise the votes of conservative americans who supported him in the 20 to 40 poll the president speaking from the east room of the white house told about 150 supporters that were assembled there that what they were had been doing was planning a Victory Party when they realized that suddenly the counting of ballots had been cut off so it could be so we were hoping to get a little bit of sound from donald trump but it will come to that middle bit in the meantime so how does done what does that mean for the situation across the United States when dont trump is saying these things is a pretty fair brawl that this fear in the country as it is a lot of division and so forth how many concerns of there are about this i mean this is exactly what it was front. Yes the clip that we were going to play essentially says that the u. S. President is accusing democrats of committing what he called fraud on our nation he says that we did win this election and what is happening he believes is that democrats are now trying to find ballots so he has said very clearly that he is planning to go to the Supreme Court now i can tell you that i have covered a contested election in the past it happened in 2000 and it involved one state the state of florida and ultimately it did get to the Supreme Court after a lot of ballot counting it was election that was ultimately declared in december what makes 6 different and worse is the fact that were talking about multiple states potentially so there could be multiple legal challenges and what makes it perplexing is that the u. S. President is talking about going straight to the Supreme Court what hes trying to do he says is halt the ballot counting because he has little confidence that with each passing day that he will win this election so whats unusual about this is that he is sort of skipping the process that we know is an avenue for a contested election it would involve couts recounts potentially involving the house of representatives voting but the president seems to be going straight to the Supreme Court its unclear what the legal argument is going to be for doing so but the reason he wants to do that is because he is just freshly appointed a Supreme Court justice and shifted the balance of the court decidedly conservative who does that favor donald trump if that is going to be ultimate decider of this election so that is the path that donald trump is choosing to take wary quickly what we should also point out though is that we know that there are going to be extensive legal battles both sides amassing a team of lawyers this is a surprise many people hoped it could be avoided if it appears here we are. Head of the game we didnt have the total trump clip but we do know so lets have a little listen. This is a fraud on the American Public this is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election frankly we did win this election sure well be going to the u. S. Supreme court we want to. Voting just. We dont want them to find any ballots at 4 oclock in the morning in them to live. Can be quickly dave is interesting was that because amongst all the states that he was listing that were on his side he was saying that arizona was still very much possible but that is not not now the case we know yeah and hes also been kind of characteristically donald trump going well i didnt need it anyway i dont really need arizona because im still going to win pennsylvania im going to win michigan im all these other states where we know it could be some time before the ballots are counted so donald trump was striking an optimistic tone but again theres no question that that last bothered him in fact we know so we are insiders at the white house including our senior white house producer Chris Sheridan have said very plainly that the president was curious to hear that his favorite News Network Fox News was calling the state of arizona for biden because this is certainly something that he felt should have been in his corner and of course we know now is not. Thank you very much for that by with the as the morning draws on the lets go to come all summer youve got somebody obviously for i have found they dont want to say it again because ive got another projection which just keeps the clock ticking if you like or the numbers ticking for joe biden certainly side of the rights right now 23213 and right up in the top Northeast Corner it is the state of maine that we are looking at. The projected winner in the state of maine is joe biden with 3 Electoral College votes now bear with me while i get this absolutely correct in maine member this is one of the exceptions there are 4 Electoral College votes vailable there 3 have gone to joe biden winning each district and then you have one left which is the northern part of maine which there is a belief that may go to donald trump so at the moment we can give 3. To joe biden and in the state of this race 3 votes is incredibly significant of course it is then just a reminder about what was it 10 minutes ago now we have this a projected win in arizona for joe biden with 11 Electoral College votes there in the important thing there was that that was the 1st state to flip all night long so what does it do to the map bring it back again and well talk a little bit more about scenarios now so that is our state of the race as that is 238 to 13 so lets say nevada by the needing 32 at this point to get over the line lets say he gets nevada which we would think that 6 so that takes him up to 244 at this point now 20 t. Oh my gosh my math is just terrible at the moment it is 6 shy so then it becomes pennsylvania and michigan or georgia basically there are a lot more parts to 270. 00 for joe biden at the moment than there are for donald trump dont trump wants to do it he is knocking at georgia and North Carolina which is likely id say North Carolina is likely for President Trump georgia probably yes as well though joe biden still in the race there but then President Trump will still need pennsylvania and michigan and maybe one more as well there are more parts for joe biden at this stage and that is why those 3. Electoral College Votes which hes just picked up in maine nick i think are very important because its just its incremental at this stage baby steps in. A big a big one a pennsylvania or something hopelessly make a difference but either candidate will take absolutely everything they can get at the moment. There is a clear route for both its clear route for bush but yes its. Donald trumps position is Holding Holding states hes just lost one remember arizona he might need to flip nevada and hed need to hold onto his other states that he broke in in 2016 the blue wall as we keep talking about joe biden can now afford to lose one of those probably wisconsin and still do it with pennsylvania and michigan so its just its a little bit clearer for joe biden. Im not going anywhere no. Thats great thanks very much lead as cross to mike hanna whos in wilmington delaware joe bidens home states where he also spoke to supporters and might so we heard from President Trump earlier and he was responding in fact to joe biden the former Vice President who had been addressing his supporters tell us a little bit about what he had to. Call the margins now are so slim that those 3 Electoral College votes that we just heard about in may may well be the Tipping Point but just to put all of this into perspective there have been some one 130000000. 00 votes tallied at this particular point that leaves according to the projected amount of votes registered overall theres some 30000000. 00 votes still out there so this competition is far from over and thats what joe biden said to his supporters when he arrived here at the Convention Center behind me at about half past midnight you made a brief speech in which he insisted that the supporters must be patient indicated that the results going to take a period of time he correctly said at that stage he was confident of getting arizona he made the assumption as well that he was doing exceedingly well in those blue states the blue wall michigan wisconsin pennsylvania about as kamalas pointing out there the passport by then its. Still much easier than the parts were trying to achieve the presidency but this is going to take a while hence a call for patience but this is what joe biden had to say. I heard tell you night we believe were on track to win this election. Because of the odd pressure down early vote in the mail in vote is going to take a while were going to have to be patient until the hard work of talent votes is finished and then over to every vote is counted every ballot is counted. By our fear and europe. Well there we heard from joe biden and they in turn over till every vote is counted and that is what will be happening in the days ahead the Supreme Court has already ruled that pennsylvania in particular has until friday at 5 pm to finish counting those absentee and postal votes now these are the key votes and importantly for joe biden and his campaign is that throughout the selection the trend has been very clear as the results of come in is that postal and absentee votes have favored democrats the in person voting on the day voting as favored republicans now those votes still to be counted are the mail in absentee votes those are expected to favor the democrats so from that statistic alone it appears that joe biden is right to call for patients and his optimism may not be unfounded just as Donald Trumps claims of victory may be entirely premature. Mike hanna in wilmington delaware thank you for that. Lets speak to Peter Matthews whos a professor of Political Science at Cypress College in the author of dollar democracy joins us now from Los Angeles Peter so margins as mike was just saying there are very very slim out there and meanwhile we have donald trump saying that the election is being stolen by joe biden saying just hold the faith how do you assess where were at right now well its absolutely slim at this point but there are many many votes that you know about 30 more on 1000000 votes to be counted and these states like michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania are critical and most of those votes in those states were cast through the mail or early in the ballot box the drop boxes they were the early votes and those were overwhelmingly democratic votes and thats what joe biden is actually correct in saying all are all holler on principle in the United States of america we believe in counting every vote everybody has to be balance thats why would that work like tradition and this is the 1st president the 1st president ial candidate mr trump present trump was saying that the elections over is the election day so its over dont count the votes and came in even before the election it come about because we have early voting in that statement states you can not count those you cant do that its unconstitutional you know Supreme Court are in decided that they have that every right to pursue it state law quite you can count on friday and those votes are most are going to be democratic votes now mr trump could end up winning the election but he let every single be counted because thats the rule of law and all right what do you think this says about democracy in the United States and what are your concerns about how this might develop out on the streets. You know this is a real problem because a fact that our election system is it is state by state and thats how the country was founded as a federally confederation initially then the Federation Federal system but the original states were more importantly long powerful and they were came together as independent units for one union and so the states had the greatest amount of power over the actual electoral process the election thats up and states vary state by state in certain ways in terms of the details of how the votes are cast public and so you should let the states have the perp or a preponderance of say here and only only once a while the Supreme Court will step in if theres something as untoward regarding federal constitutional principles but a transfusion but its basically a vote counting and vote vote in itself with the state function and its something that is its produced disjointed results at times it did that in the back in 2000 there was controversy it needs to be streamlined horses need to be streamlined in my view and then also the question the Electoral College many people say that were going to need more because people are informed they can be informed through the media and they can have direct a marker of voting democracy of the people who sell choosing president as most democratic country do in their own in their own right were still on this system of Electoral College who are actually last present from wine in minority of the popular vote and so became present a majority vote or colored vote thats not a one person one vote democratic prince or so that needs to be looked at very carefully also yeah and peter as weve been hearing this all this could well come down to pennsylvania the Supreme Court has ruled that pennsylvania has until friday to count all the votes but all the while we have 3 justices on the Supreme Court indicating that they they may yet revisit that decision could you see any scenario whereby the votes are not counted in pennsylvania. I would hope this doesnt com