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Can make the big prize of the night as always is california with 55 Electoral College votes joe biden has got those further north the state of washington with 12 goes to the blue column as well and oregon as well all of these west coast blue states another 7 which we can add to joe bidens tally there and well put in idaho as well which is also closing the south thats a red state that goes to dont trump with 4 so as i said this gives us some shape now because weve now managing to fill in the states which we knew so 209112 right now that looks very strong in favor of joe biden but lets think about this texas 38 florida 29 pennsylvania which we havent talked about for a while will do that in maybe will 10 or 15 minutes well have a little talk about pennsylvania. Not even in the too close to call of the moment but this 20. Heigho a chain North Carolina 16 there are a lot of states and its all the ones which we thought it would come down to of course so whilst that number all just pop out the way there was that number looks as i say very strong and joe biden much closer there is too much to declare and remember florida looking so strong for joe biden for doing it again Goodness Gracious for donald trump at the moment we could probably put another 29 on to his tally there lets check in with some of those swing states which i just took you through just one of those through them quickly and see how we are so North Carolina with nearly 100 percent of precincts reporting the difference is just 73000. 00 and that is in favor of donald trump at this stage georgia as well with its 16 Electoral College votes is too close to call the margin is just 300000. 00 and we are waiting for votes from the most populous parts of the states around atlanta remembering the general rule that democrats do best in the urban areas so joe biden by no means will have given up hope in georgia 63 percent of precincts reporting there lets head further north to hire that ones too close as well 402000 is the difference with nearly 90 percent of precincts reporting. But Donald Trumps lead has been extending there are over the last hour i would point out and finally michigan part of the blue wall what was the blue wall 16 Electoral College votes dont trump is comfortably ahead there but its only a 3rd of the votes in at this point its pennsylvania was the one i wanted to talk about as well now 5543 thats. Thats changed significantly because earlier when we looked to pennsylvania joe biden was well ahead but there was a small number of precincts reporting and it was the areas which we know strong and pennsylvania is a fascinating state as i think well talk a bit more about this in 10 or 15 minutes or so depending on what other news we see coming out but donald trump will be placed to see that one because holding on to pennsylvania as well as florida is absolutely critical for donald trump if he wants to keep the white house so the school board looks like this 209 Electoral College votes place 112 and just to highlight the Electoral College at play here look at the bottom line there for that will bring it up full there so both candidates have won 17 states but joe biden has that much far ahead up at 209 begins 112 thats the way the Electoral College works its not about how many states you win its about how important which important states you win and look at the popular vote as well more people across the United States are voting for donald trump at this stage 3 percent more joe biden ahead in the electoral count adrian this is tight ill be honest i did not expect this and florida especially which i think we should have a final result at some point or a final projection that will be a huge factor in whoever wins this race come on many thanks well talk to you shortly well as we heard several states still up in the emily all the polls are closed now except for hawaii and alaska. The ballots still being counted especially in several key battleground states we dont know which way those states are going to go yet we have correspondents right across the country that speak to the moldau starting with john hendren who is covering the midwest chicago this election could come down to. Pennsylvania and. Michigan wisconsin ohio the midwest where you are. All thats right adrian its those blue walls states by and large that kemal was talking about spanning from pennsylvania to minnesota in the upper midwest and in the middle are the ones that joe biden will have to pick up in order to make a change and do a cost donald trump key electoral votes that he won last time around thats ohio michigan wisconsin biden has other avenues to success if he doesnt win those but he would do best if he can win michigan and ohio pennsylvania hes got to win something there and right now if he were to win ohio wisconsin and michigan hed pick up 44 electoral points and that would put donald trump below to 70 if Everything Else played out like it did in 2016 there are a couple. Kaviak its right here if you look at wisconsin last i checked you can check my math on this but it was pretty close and milwaukee still wont have all of its votes counted and for another 7 hours now thats important because milwaukee is one of those urban areas that are heavily democratic thats where joe biden is expected to rack up some votes ahead of these this election he was several points ahead in wisconsin in polls but as we see when we look at the results so far donald trump seems to be outperforming his expectations and joe biden is outperforming Hillary Clintons performance 4 years ago but hes not doing as well as he as he would need to do in order to wrap it up michigan is probably going to be late in returning all of its votes and then theres pennsylvania those states could make the difference it could come down to this blue wall. Many thanks well see you again a little later lets go live then to the crucial battleground state of florida and to gallagher is in miami and its pretty tight. I mean incredibly tight and we are expecting it to get cold pretty soon about 94 percent of all votes have been predicted and counted and it looks like this could go Donald Trumps way hes got about a 300000 vote lead at the moment and in the areas if you look at the counties where joe biden actually won like here in Miami Dade County hes actually underperforming in what Hillary Clinton did back in 2016 remember doll chunk came here 14 times during his Campaign Joe Biden only 4 times although he sent surrogates like former president barack obama here to try to energize by his base but this is a much needed win if it goes trumps way because this is really the state that he needed to get no republican nominee for the president has won the white house in close to a century without winning this state the state of course that dan trump calls his home state because he moved down to verilog oh its his permanent residence so he hasnt been called yet but it looks like it is leaning towards the Trump Campaign and it may be that this state does really even play much of a role Going Forward because now it seems to be about places like North Carolina ohio wisconsin which john was just talking about and thats a pretty unusual thing normally florida plays an outsized role d because it is an outside state in many ways with 29 Electoral College votes but if trump manages to clinch those 29 Electoral College votes it will give his campaign a big boost and they get to go reporting live there from miami lets cross to the other side of the country then out to serious rob reynolds is in los angeles and california polls as we heard close there at the. Its is a strong democratic states lets talk about colorado and arizona to get us up to date with rob. Whats the basis. Well colorado has been called the by the Associated Press for. Vice President Joe Biden also notable there that a rip republican senator an incumbent republican senator lost his seat to his democratic challenger so that is a pick up in the senate however that is offset by the loss of a democratic senator to his republican opponent in the state of alabama the really interesting thing thats going on now adrian is in arizona where things are looking pretty good for joe biden of course its not been called yet its not been officially. Announce what the results are but it is looking good for biden hes maintained a fairly good lead throughout the evening over President Trump and this is extraordinary because their resume is formally a rock ribbed republican state it was the home of Barry Goldwater the founder of the modern conservative movement and it hasnt gone for a rip a democratic president since bill clinton beat bob dole back in 1996 the other aspect of arizona that is intriguing right now is the senate race again there is a democrat there is a republican can incumbent Martha Mc Sally she is trailing her democratic rival mark kelly by a fairly large margin so that could be a pickup for the democrats in their struggle to control the senate. In that regard as well adrian there is a close race in. In the state of montana which is a republican stronghold but the former democratic governor of that state is appears to be holding a narrow lead so a lot more to come as the last of the western states california hawaii and alaska all. Tally up their votes adrian rubble check in with you again and a little while lets go to Houston Texas subzero as hot as youre castro is id texas is one of the states we put a big question. In that it why its unthinkably have gone blue hows it looking. I know what a question to consider this evening adrian because texas is yet another state that has not supported a democrat for president in well over 4 decades and currently were at some 80 percent of votes counted it appears that joe biden is still only trailing by about 3 Percentage Points behind President Trump why is that significant well trump one against clinton here in texas of 26 team by 9 points so certainly if he were to win texas again tonight that margin of victory is narrowing and if texas were to go to joe biden which at this point still is the more unlikely of scenarios remember this is a state with 38. 00 electoral votes so all of the scenarios that we have been talking about this evening thus far that would be tossed out the window if this obstat were to be pulled off by joe biden in texas there would be. There would be very little way of trump winning the white house if he were to lose taxes finally another takeaway from the results here is that. The republican senator who is up for reelection here in texas has been declared the winner and its interesting because what the says is that the people who voted in texas it was not a purely partisan vote that there was a significant number of voters who voted for the republican senator john cornyn but also for joe biden and that certainly spells the weakening status of President Trump in texas one of the traditionally deepest red states. How does your castro live out in Houston Texas another state thats very much in play as North Carolina President Trump fighting to hold on to its crucial 15 Electoral College votes and thats already 80 percent of the vote counted observers gave us on to us following the race for us the latest. The latest is President Donald Trump is pulling away in North Carolina ever so slightly as theres fewer and fewer votes to count in that critical state 5200000 votes have been counted in North Carolina Donald Trump Holds about a 73000 vote lead over joe biden thats significant because the Biden Campaign had been hoping to flip North Carolina trump won it 4 years ago but the polls before this election seemed to indicate that biden might hold some sort of lead so the Biden Campaign was hoping that this could be one of those key swing states that they could flip and it appears that that hope by the by and campaign is slipping away very quickly now a North Carolina has for a long time been a strong red state theres only 2 times since 1976 that it democrat has won it but one of those 2 times was 2008 when brock obama won North Carolina by only 14000 votes when joe biden was the Vice President ial on the Vice President ial ticket there so thats why the Biden Campaign was hoping to get North Carolina its still too close to call but the bottom line here is that by opened up an early lead a couple hours ago but the trump had been chipping away at that as the. Same day voting tally was was was tallied and what were seeing now is 97 percent of the vote tally and we see donald trump. With about a 73000. 00 vote advantage potentially very difficult at this stage for baidoa overcome that however its still too close to call. Given as on the reporting live from new york clips him now from the 2 correspondents are covering the can but its in a moment well speak with my count whos in wilmington delaware democratic candidate joe bidens home state but 1st lets go to our White House Correspondent kimberly how could whats the mood. Among the Trump Campaign kimberly. Well our senior white house producer Chris Sheridan is over at the white house and he ran into the president s daughter in law lara trump who has been very instrumental in getting out the vote particularly among women for trump. Chris asked her you know whats the mood like in there as you and your family watch these returns come in she said its good and this is something thats being echoed by the Trump Campaign manager he is also saying that he believes that donald trump is actually starting to poll i had in the returns but what were hearing from the campaign in fact they sent this out in officially emailed to their supporters is that their belief is that even though they are ahead that the media the fake news as they call it and for the u. S. President say so many times is were fusing to call this in other words protecting the rival of donald trump joe biden the former Vice President now some of the things that theyre pointing to and some of the things that could affect when we ultimately see a result have to do with a number of key cities in pivotal states one of them is to troy michigan that is where we know that they have halted the counting of some ballots until the in fact theyre going to be counting the ballots until wednesday were being told because theres a bit of a backlog and philadelphia penn. Sylvania that battleground states theyve actually halted counting ballots until the next day so as a result these are really important states where we need to see these results if it is a close razor thin margin and thats not happening and so theres a bit of eyebrow raising happening at the white house right now about why that might be happening because theyd like to see these results come in but at the same time they are start to feel optimistic given the fact that they went into this knowing that according to most polls that joe biden had quite a substantial lead so the fact that some of these states are in play is an encouraging sign according to the Trump Campaign committee how to live in washington lets go to mike hanna then whos outside biomed quarters in wilmington delaware the mood there mike. Followed by a campaign maintaining a silence which it has done throughout the night but once again the point that kimberly made there that so many states are in play which the democrats had hoped would be out of played by this particular stage of the vote counting this election has been very different from previous others in many ways but in one way the pattern has been similar and that is the vote on the day has gone republican voting in person has changed the for amateurs of the Election Results as they come in in the states where the early returns are counted early we saw an early move to the democrats however as the in person on the day vote was counted you saw the republicans narrowing the gap and some paces leaping into the lead florida for example at this stage appears to be going to trump that would be a major play for the democrats who really thought that they had that state as a possibility for a victory but having said that what we are seeing as well is a pattern that in those areas where the early returns are counted late so to speak theres a switch around there lets take pennsylvania for an example there youve had some 35 percent of the vote counted now out of that only 18 percent are early returns the total of early returns or early voting is likely to be in the region of 40 to 50 percent which could favor the democrats so this is why this is such a difficult race to call and this is why the calling is coming in some cases rather late right at the very last moment where one reason obviously is that the election is so tight in so many areas but youve already seen within the sol for example california being predicted for joe biden with its massive amount of electoral votes along the west coast going to biden as well florida as i keep on saying. Major blow to democrats they really thought that they had a chance in that state with its huge amount as well of electoral votes but the key issue here it does appear increasingly those states that we heard about earlier North Carolina ohio wisconsin these states are now increasingly critical despite the apparent setback so from toward joe biden in recent hours the point still remains that its easier for him to get to the number of electoral votes he needs to get the presidency easier for him than it is for donald trump he has far more ways to still achieve that goal donald trump has lifted his options are increasingly narrow however florida would be a huge blow to texas have go its now a state very very critical obviously with its huge amount of electoral votes so an incredibly tight election and that in a way is good news for donald trump because as kimberly pointed out all the a polls indicated the other way the republicans have gone against most of those early polls the key figure as its been in past elections more republicans have termed up on the day at the polls than democrats might count in wilmington delaware will speak to you again shortly mike assure aside from the pandemic tension of a race of demands for Police Reform a hanging heavily over these elections the Police Killing of black man george floyd in minneapolis unleashed the biggest racial process since the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960 s. Theres been a reckoning with how race is portrayed in the Media Entertainment sports across society and reforms to Law Enforcement though not enough for those who want to defund the police elsewhere in the world people also rose up against symbols of racism and historic slavery in the u. S. President trying to threaten them in some cases deployed force against demonstrators his message of law and order became a central theme in his Reelection Campaign george floyd was among 897 people who died at the hands of police this year more than a quarter of them were black. Anyhow the votes in minnesota have been counted a joe biden has been striking showing a strong lead that lets go live now to minneapolis minnesota of the seriousness actually good name is the. It was a late battleground state in 2020 this of course the state where there were protests against racism and Police Violence off the killing of george floyd. How is that going to play out so how is it going to play out in the terms of votes in that state. Well adrian the black flies Matter Movement its as you mentioned the largest protest movement in American History certainly energized young people and democrats but it was also believe that it could also energize those who saw the violence in the looting in minneapolis and really felt that trumps law and order message resonated were here at the george floyd memorial if you take a look behind me its been a festive atmosphere actually this evening aljazeera and you have been on a screen projected onto a wall theres been music dancing eating and weve been talking to people here about how theyre feeling on Election Night who they voted for one of the people weve been speaking to his premed student how to use if high. So who did you vote for and why i voted for biden because i honestly didnt want to run for president. You live in this neighborhood and you said youve been here from the beginning 70 plus days since this war block radius around the george floyd memorial sprung up and you volunteer here what does it mean to be here on election day. It means that the same sense of community doesnt leave the space its always going to continue no matter what the circumstance no matter what the day and no matter what the time. What do you think at a National Level the next president could do to help advance racial. Equality and also to address the concerns about police brutality. If there was a positive way to continue our Community Policing and weve shown that in this space of Community Policing and organizing has a one committed union of Community Policing we can simply just abolish the police and there is nothing wrong with the and i understand a lot of people say the same thing. Who are we going to call if there is no police you call your community. Who are you going to call when something goes wrong you call your community and thats one thing that weve learned since the day that mr floyd haas away and were going to continue doing that of Community Billy say because of the community doesnt if the state and the city doesnt allow us to do it then who are we to say its something that we have to do something that were bound to do. You know there are you mentioned the Community Just briefly there are some members of the surrounding community who want this case to they want to keep the memorial but they want the roads to open up again and life to resume as they did before how do you feel. George floyds life cant resume so why should anyone elses. Its a blanket statement and its a bold statement but its the reality of a mans life was lost and the moment that these streets are opened up someone else is going to come in here and profit off of his name like the ways that theyve already done is the reason while these go. Knowledge at least for the family the family doesnt see a dollar. The community does a see a dollar of this and not something negative. I think it opened up i have to take you. Back to you adrian but i. Will speak to you again a little later now of the course of the thing weve been talking about some of the legal challenges that might arise from the selection whoever wins for them but will have an administration with a Supreme Court that has a conservative majority weve got a lot of ground to cover lets throw it over to chad and washington should have a draft is not just the Supreme Court but all so many low court positions have been filled by the Republican Party its been a major a major achievement lets discuss this and the implications of all the structure blackmans joins us hes a constitutional law professor at south Texas College of law and houston jeff house is a lawyer and executive director of the revolving door project at the center for economic and policy research and back with us once again is journalist and host of the bottom line Steve Clemons and it was a long held goal josh off the Republican Party the theory seemed to be look demographics are against the Republican Party you have to capture the Judicial Branch and the lower courts. And assert that you can see that as a bulwark against the regulatory state but also demographics it interested me to think about getting a more complex picture of the demographics and which way they will swing whether its republicans or democrats but was that sort of the plan and have the republicans pretty much achieved that. I think the republicans have spent the last 30 years on the judiciary focus because so many scream Court Nominations from Republican Party has not panned out Justice John Paul stevens Justice Sandra day Oconnor Justice Anthony Kennedy Justice David souter so many the republican nominee sort of went towards the middle one towards the left so theres been this strong focus on that in judges in which it has been done before i think present trump has seen again you had president justice no Gorsuch Justice Brett Kavanaugh and now much of the surprise of everyone a 3rd pick in the last few months the election with just as amy 20 barrett this is been not expected but but a serious victory for the Trump Administration but then jeff houser what impact does it have not just so i think the Supreme Court i started but also the lower courts thats where were seeing all these new judges and it was interesting that the professor that talked about the vetting process some of them had bad barely any experience in the judiciary but they were they seemed to be picked out for their ideological line and their thirtys a few years as a lawyer perhaps one of you know you know and then you know now that suddenly thats that judges whats the impact is i going to have about. Its going to have a lot of impact especially if democrats do not take the senate tonight i suspect by and you still going to squeak out a president ial victory but the senate looks a lot more difficult for democrats which means that any dishing all judgeships across the country is impossible and so it means that contingency and fortuity has benefited right wingers in this country jimmy carter spent 4 years as president in a 0 Supreme Court nominations the consequence of that was the bush v gore decision in 2000 which gave the presidency to the republicans in an election which they did not win the popular vote and that eventually after 911. 00 what 2 Supreme Court nominations and you know a very narrow election in which they lost the popular vote in 2016 and now theyre going to you know they gained further on the Supreme Court and they have been. Finding every opportunity on the lower courts as well so theyve been as dedicated as mr bachmann suggested but theyve also been very the beneficiaries of tremendous lot. Of problems i mean it always seems like the democrats just didnt take this so seriously as they should have when they had the presidency and both houses of congress this completely outplayed by the republicans also i think i think its really i like the comment that our guest just said you know that it was tremendous luck or same credible tremendous focus that if you watch the Republican National convention they talk about amy kone bear the Supreme Court seats constantly throughout a convention you watched democratic National Convention it hardly came up as a topic it is for whatever reason not been a full and central focus even though gay rights had been a key decision of the courts you know there are issues about the fragility of womens abortion rights womens rights to choose theres a whole range of rights fragility out there that could very well end up in the Supreme Court and with the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg all of that is. Come to the fore but when you go out new poll democrats versus republicans the court comes up very low professor of law and its interesting that steve mentioned abortion roe v wade is the key the key case that was just the exit poll on fox news no less which said the majority of voters they polled said burgo v wade should be left as it is 71 percent not even a small majority 71 percent of folks news in the exit poll that roe v wade should not be touched how far can a supremum court as the one we now have go if Public Opinion is completely against for example overturning the rights of a woman to choose. I think there is no appetite to overrule roe entirely but roe is not really a decision thats on the books and there are other decisions that go beyond roe and put different types of restrictions on abortion i think whats likely to happen is if. The portion cases of for example perhaps limits people those later certainly are in the pregnancy perhaps different types of late term abortion procedures can be banned perhaps there are more hurdles in terms what the doctors have to go through licensing so i think there are different decisions the courts can render that make it harder to get an abortion although the procedure still exists in large part of the 1st several months of the pregnancy so it is commutative your death by a 1000 cuts got to kind of thing which goes well and then organizing thats actually going to suggest has a howard zinn with a very great progressive historian whos always a look robey way was even policy because of a of a sympathetic bench of his because of Public Organization pushing from below making the public pressure something that the Supreme Court couldnt ignore i mean there is next is there an element of that and thats thats what needs to be mobilized if progress is going to save some of these these rights. Well i think the Supreme Court justices were out there in the ologies act and in the early 1970 s. 5 of the justices who were in the majority roe v wade were pointed by republican president s democrats have not had a majority of twentys on a Supreme Court in my lifetime and for a few years before it so i mean i think yes there are definite was pressure there was of the justices and there were a combination of social movements and great lawyer and got to a result like roe v wade but its not its clear to me that the current supreme or a 6 member majority its responsive to those forces as their predecessors were a couple of generations ago and thats worrisome to me see problems that what impact is all is going to have on the election result as we see them i mean clearly. Pretty clearly it will get us on the law as well its a back up i mean you already see the litigating in nevada and pennsylvania and places all around the country theyve got a very very astute and on the mark legal team challenging it at the edges but i think the big issue is if you get you know another case as weve talked all evening about like in florida with gore versus bush that Supreme Court having a Supreme Court having that stacked deck there is a nice backstop but professor bloodworm havent we come a long way from the year 2000 and gore v bush is now one of the bit more aware of what could happen of how of the of the of the minute of these legal fights caton the republicans and for example as the democrats fair you know disenfranchise thousands of votes without there being a doubt groet. I think the biggest difference between 2002020 is when the litigation occurred in 2000 litigation occurred as the ballot close this year was a lot of litigation in advance for example the penciling Supreme Court senate deadlines for the receipt of absentee ballots in the us from court debt law and whether that ruling was valid thats not a justices now that 9 so even though you shift from this pre ballot litigation to the post count litigation i fear my colleague on the mycologist book might be right i dont know how far we are in 2020 just Brett Kavanaugh with a new member of the court fairly cited bush v gore and chief justice rehnquists opinion suggesting that you in the bush or gore precedent which was very controversial may have some fans on the u. S. Supreme court jeff hauser. Im very worried about that 3 of the justices were in fact george w. Bushs legal team which does very much suggest that they are willing and able to vote in a very in move forward in a very partisan manner and i mean i dont really know what more the democrats can do in terms of this current Supreme Court i think that they had a strategy in a saturday youre going the meet honey barrett confirmation hearings the absence of a strategy they had now obviously well past their prime Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking member and they basically decided the election was going well enough they didnt really need to oppose this Supreme Court nomination and a lot of the grasses and you were very upset with the Senate Leaderships strategy essentially acquiesce in the voting but not doing anything to suggest anything especially improper was occurring in the senate with the rush confirmation process of going to barrett and i think it was right and the center of the Democratic Party has a lot to answer for center of the Democratic Party Democratic Party strategies by the looks of it are going to become the base of all sorts of levels as this even progresses jeff houser thank you very much thank you steve thank you very much to you but to a jew should have been i think such an update from come on come on we need to talk about pennsylvania we really to because i think especially with florida looking like its in the bag to donald trump i think pennsylvania has become even more important than it was hello everyone lets have a lets have a look inside the rights 1st of all shall we to 09 against 11 but as ive said before remember the big numbers remember texas with its 38 remember florida with its 29 remember ohio with its 18 and pennsylvania which we havent even been yet because its just too early to call lets have a look at the numbers the breakdown in pennsylvania with its 50 percent of precincts reporting donald trump 56 percent. Biden 42 percent but let me explain that pennsylvania one of these classic states where the rural areas are republican in the areas democrat 2 important places to think about pittsburgh and that is allegheny county. That is going to be very important area for joe biden and then on the other side of that youve got bucks county which is sort of the suburbs of philadelphia that one Hillary Clinton carried that only by 2 1700. 00 votes 4 years ago in fact gosh the whole state of maine look at that it was so close 4 and it was less than one percent it was 0. 7 percent for the whole state but that county but county near philadelphia only 2700 votes was the victory margin for Hillary Clinton biden is ahead at the moment by less but in fact im being told 1500 days ahead but only 12 percent of the votes are in there and the thing with philadelphia is that the counting is going to take a long time you know all these mail in ballots they couldnt even start sorting them until today let alone counting them so the count in philadelphia is going to take a few days and i think could be absolutely vital to this race just looking back as well you saw how strong it was for barack obama in his 2 presidencies but its been slipping its been slipping to the point where donald trump was able to overturn it in 2016 so thats pennsylvania just a quick look at the school board as it stands right now and what youve got there remember i told you last time we looked at this about how biden was so far ahead on the Electoral College vote but donald trump was ahead in the popular vote its flipped now joe bidens ahead on the popular vote now as we know popular vote doesnt mean anything in the end but it is interesting to just see that ebb and flow as i like to call it between the popular vote and the Electoral College map. Thats part of it thats why im really zeroing in on it now because i think it just could be so so important absolutely right come on but i think cindy see again a little later now the media and social media have effectively become war zones during Donald Trumps presidency he weaponized the fake news to attack outlets that he perceives as enemies his which it gives but the presenter of media analysis show the listening post. Donald trumps inauguration set the tone from that day when he flat out lied about the size of the crowd it was clear that the u. S. News media did not know what to make of the president s on again off again relationship with the truth series of well we have to label it untruths we now have a case where hes made another charge and he has not got evidence why are we surprised that such a racist theres until donald trump came along the White House Press corps had been reluctant to accuse any american president of lying that is no longer the case the Washington Post has counted how many times trump has lied or misled americans the number is more than 22000 forcing journalists to call it what it is this president is a serial liar and he seriously lie tonight how do you defend 22000 false wits by attacking and calling the Media Outlets reporting on them fake news the Dishonest Media nobody has any idea how corrupt the media is just like its a nasty one false story after another you are the enemy of the people are you. With this administration constantly misleading citizens journalists have grown ever more reliant on leaks from disgruntled white house insiders ex insiders turned pundits or ex cabinet officials turned authors some of those leaks have proven to be misleading and have come back to bite the news outlets that bought into them remember russia gate the allegations that russia might have been gathering material video of mr trump that could be used to blackmail him stories of russian meddling in the 2016 election and allegations the Trump Campaign and the kremlin had worked together complete with that sexy cold war angle were too much for news channels not named fox to resist the eventual retractions were damaging since they lent the president s fake news narrative some credibility we actually correcting a story that we have been reporting throughout the day today the us media landscape divided before donald trump was elected has since grown far more polarized in one corner the. Liberal side including outlets like c. N. N. M s n b c and the New York Times in the other fox news broadcast upstarts like one america news and conservative platforms such as the Christian Broadcasting Network and the Washington Times which oh theyre resurgent audiences to the president time and again americans have seen those rival journalistic camps take the same new story and spin it in entirely Different Directions the covert 1000 story has proven to be much harder for fox and its ilk to manipulate since there is no way to spin infection rates and mortality figures if donald trump loses this election prepare to see some journalists claiming at least some of the credit calling it a victory for the 4th estate some of them will be justified to a certain extent there are news outlets that have been locking horns with the president for years producing some adversarial quality d journalism along the way but until 2020 they failed to really move the needle in fact fewer Americans Trust their news media today than in 2016 what it took to sink donald trump in the polls was covert 19 and the science hard data it doesnt lie and try as he might the president has no answer for that every election cycle there are of course plenty of americans who decide which candidates to vote for based on one single issue anders hear or see what are some of the major issues the voters have been choosing well we know or rather we knew going into the final weeks and the last few months of this election what issues voters cared about most and polling by the Pew Research Center shows reaffirms rather that the economy is at the top of a long list followed by health care and Supreme Court appointments lets hear from some voters why they chose to vote the way they did. The reason that i support drop in the collection because of the economy the main. Problem we. Undoubtedly the one behind it and then we continue to go to the polls to do. I support joe biden as the next president of the United States as he believes that health care is a right and not a privilege and this is an alignment with the World Health Organization and the 1st half of 2020 there are over 43 percent of americans between the ages of 19 and 64 who did not have access to Adequate Health insurance and Health Coverage this is something that joe biden is committed to resolving into providing Proper Health Care Services to every american i am pro biden because of prochoice. Mostly because of the lack of men accountability. Lay pregnancy complications that continues congress that poverty cycles the flash in social services and their lack of support for afterbirth life and the mental and sometimes physical instability that some prochoice. Top issues change between parties for trump voters its the economy and crime about 6 in 10 Trump Supporters say that immigration gun policy and Foreign Policy are also very important to their vote biden supporters say that health care and the pandemic are the most important in the sizable majority also rates Racial Justice as important to their vote now abortion is usually considered one of the most common single issues that voters consider pew research has actually found that its at the bottom of a long list of topics for both parties this very important and busy year but even with 232000 americans dead voters are split on whether u. S. Efforts to contain the virus are going well or badly according to exit polling and when it comes to immigration gun policy and the federal budget deficit Neither Party has a significant edge adrian. After many thanks indeed lets turn our attention to Foreign Policy and the turbulent relationship between donald trump and north koreas leader its ranged from insults and threats in 2017 to the then historic meeting in 2018 but negotiations stall of course after President Trump rejected chemist a man for sanctions mcbride reports from south Koreas Capital seoul. It looked at one point as though the historic summit diplomacy of u. S. President donald trump and kim jong un of north korea would lead to a major breakthrough but as negotiations stalled its become obvious north koreas strategy now is wait and see north korea has been already on the waiting mode when it comes to dealing with the United States because there is no hope for the Trump Administration to make any important changes prior year. Election on november 3rd most analysts believe north korea would prefer a Trump Victory they see his impulsiveness such as when he unilaterally canceled joint military exercises with south korea but will be saving a tremendous amount of money plus i think its very provocative as their best chance of getting relief from sanctions he put trampled elective maybe its cool for young men because they still love each other they fear. They are or could personally in contrast a president ial victory for joe biden would likely be a return to the more traditional policy of strategic patience of sanctions pressure and International Isolation biden has described kim as a tyrant and to thug north korea in turn called biden a rabid dog significantly kim has called for a Ruling Party Congress for january 2021 to announce a new 5 year plan for the crippled economy where he is also likely to map out. The future u. S. Strategy based on the election outcome kim will also be mindful of his changing relations with his neighbors namely south korea china and russia with whom hes also held multiple summits in the past few years he and his regime no longer look as threatening and reclusive as they once did that more statesman like stature was evident at the recent military parade in pyongyang which also featured new missiles presumably capable of reaching the United States kim knows that if he returns to testing those weapons in defiance of a new u. S. Administration he risks becoming an International Pariah once more of the bride aljazeera so. Plenty to talk about here lets bring in our panel we have helen clarke who served as new zealands Prime Minister from 1908 until 2008 she was also the administrator of the United Nations Development Program Thomas Pickering is one of the u. S. As most celebrated and longest serving diplomats is held ambassadorial posts at the un israel russia india el salvador and nigeria good to have you both with us thank you. Lets remember that the trumpet ministrations policy on north korea wasnt about letters and handshakes in the beginning washington the mission initially youll remember put immense pressure on pyongyang at the un who could forget donald trump and the reference to kim jong un as a little rocket man during his 1st speech at the u. N. General assembly in 2017 then of course we saw that major shift in both tone and strategy ambassador pickering did President Trumps pivot actually do anything to advance the goal of denuclearization of the korean peninsula. It didnt hurt our but not nearly where it could have gone in should have been on the one hand it changed 1st relationships largely because of i think the careful intervention of president move from south korea who saw the trump policy leading to a terrible mess in which neither the us ringback would continue to raise put charity sanctions and actions against the d. P. R. K. North korea or it would have to back down or go to war and so he introduced something that i think was very important the opportunity to have some kind of diplomatic interchange at the highest levels and President Trump jumped at the chance i think in the full speed leave that he was some think of that her terrific negotiator and with only one meeting or 2 he could bring him jiang on around to some kind of fantastic big deal in which everything the United States opposed on Nuclear Weapons in korea and the Nuclear Delivery vehicles that korea was developing would seoul like plessy from kim jong uns and into some kind of new relationship in which things would be happy enough that they could march off together into the sunset it proves exactly the opposite wildly divergent the potential for a very serious conflict and reduce that and lift to the north koreans stopping testing of Nuclear Weapons at least for a time and stopping testing of own range missiles with some excursions thought the most recent meeting failed in one knowing the conversations had been broken off in effect with the negotiator for the United States wish to continue but it was in effect pulled back by president drunk and given another job. Helen clark and in a major Foreign Policy speech last year joe biden accused President Trump of making the prospect of Nuclear Proliferation and north korea iran and elsewhere more likely is he right i do feel that the u. S. Coming out of these u. N. Security council indorsed deal on iran. Did raise the prospect of iran then heaven excuses to withdraw from the months that it had my l. B. At its traction has been somewhat slow but on the other hand im inclined to the view that the personal outreach from present trump to kim jong il was a good thing and they met 3 times quite extraordinary meetings tickly the one with President Trump walked over the line in the d. N. C. Between the 2 koreas and while as best the paper in his say that it hasnt delivered perhaps what couldve nonmalicious i think it did you know cool things down quite a lot we all remember the rocket man speech at the General Assembly in 2017 almost the threat of Nuclear Armageddon against a north korea and then it all pulled back from that so im rather positive about the efforts for the 2 men to get to know each other and pull back from where they both were right out of serious serious political analyst. Is with us as well if President Trump is reelected but what are we likely to see him try to revive his face to face diplomacy with north koreas leader. Absolutely especially the face to face part of it because as we know you know theres been some bromance established between the 2 leaders with it with whatever ups and downs so much so that President Trump if you remember not only did all that hoopla about rocket man but he actually undermined his own secretary of state Rex Tillerson at the time when towson was with the help of the chinese and japanese and others trying to work out something with north korea but all in all if you look closely at what just happened over the last 2 or 3 years about korea youll notice we are back to square one and its something similar to what happened with iran with russia in venezuela there is that kind of diplomacy that marching in place a great thing a lot of dust and a lot of hoopla a lot of noise but in so much in so many ways were basically back to square one in some cases where a bit worse than we were. Thomas pickering joe biden has talked about reinvesting in the u. S. Diplomatic corps putting diplomacy back in the hands of genuine professionals he said if fighting when this this election is there any hope for some sort of breakthrough in getting north korea to abandon its its nuclear ambitions. No i dont expect to were going to have some kind of remarkable from korean breakthrough i think that with north korea its a hard slog and i think it has to be undertaken for the long term and in many ways it has to involve some improvement in our relations with the p. R. C. Who do play a significant role in north korean behavior and how it can be worked it needs to begin by taking on for example a step which would shut off the creation by north korea of enough additional fissile material to make new weapons such as shutting down young beyond the of richmond facility and the plutonium separation facility working to in fact stop the no one underground facility enriching uranium and continuing to quote a very serious restriction on testing for that we would have to pay in some way probably with relaxed sanctions for time and certainly as a test of north korean good intentions one could see over a period of time given the wants ability of chinese grew up with your pressure when new steps that one could advance so along the road whether you could ever get rid of north korean Nuclear Weapons once and for all and finally is Something Development to be hoped for but not likely on the near term horizon where you can make progress on the progress in itself will also assume both sides as it leaves significant steps to reduce the. Very very tight confrontation we had he launch manager in part due to the mis actions on the side of waltrip and kim jong il and when the potential for the use of military force grew up and was stopped as i said a moment ago by the beginning of. She asians im not sure that President Trump is kenyan he wins this election to get back into thankless proposition with kim jong un a crime he enjoys only success he made it clear today in a statement he made to his own his own Campaign Team that he very much or to me i knew of losing so would he jump in again without the idea of producing a nuisance yes im not so sure what it is something that i mean here and we move ahead with some International Cooperation and some whole nation building in ok people have suggested just well this stuff i already ok time is against us im going to go completely off topic here forgive me but what ive got you have Prime Minister clark i want to ask you about Something Else which is pretty important right now the Global Response to the coronavirus pandemic youve been tossed with cochairing an independent panel that will evaluate how the World Health Organization has handled the cove cove it 19 pandemic is supposed to be looking at Lessons Learned from the fight against the virus what have you found particularly as it regards that the World Health Organizations ability to take a stance that but some of its Member States white dont like. I think what weve identified from the outset is that the w. H. O. Really has very little at all and to the extent that it Member States cooperate and notify in a timely manner and follow Quality Public Health and bus which might be offered through w. H. O. You contend things around thoughts but with not everyone plays that becomes very difficult to a verse or run away and there that we could look at for example increased powers for the w a job with of the Member States what it can see those pounds and enable it to tell the truth the way remains to be seen ok. Well leave it there many thanks indeed to all of you helen clark former Prime Minister of new zealand of the former u. N. Development Program Administrator Thomas Pickering former u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations russia india and israel and of course serious acedia political analyst mo one bashar. It is sir good to have you with us hello adrian for going to this is al jazeera is continuing special coverage of the 2020 u. S. Election it is now 5 g. M. T. 00500 dollars midnight in washington d. C. This is the scene outside the white house right now crowds of been building for hours will go to our correspondents in just a few moments but 1st lets get right up to date with where we are results wise with kemal thank you adrian we get out just a little bit

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