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A percentage point in the last election john hendren reports now from michigan. Be improving economy and he has had some good numbers reasonably trained deals including the north American Free trade agreement to renegotiate it and then he went on to talk about how tough he had been on china in that trade war and to contrast himself with joe biden he showed a video in which biden said some positive things about china and then he went on to criticize the governor of michigan Gretchen Whitmer she is a democrat and she has cracked down aggressively on the Coronavirus Police in france have released a person they were questioning often an orthodox priest was shot in the city of leone the priest was closing his church on saturday afternoon when he was shot twice at close range churches around france a dedicating all saints state to the victims of thursdays attack in nice people starved to death christiane holiday is traditionally a time to remember that. Early Election Results in ivory coast putting president allison whats in the lead but opposition candidates of already denounced the vote saying that it was neither free nor fat several people died in protests in the run up to the election the president of azerbaijan has been turkeys foreign minister to discuss the conflict in the going to come a back alley of says that there is no reason for russia to intervene in the conflict because his forces are not threatening me and territory. Voting is on the way to algeria a referendum on whether to rewrite the constitution and you constitution would limit president ial terms and give more powers to the parliament and you disher e it was a key demand of the protest movement that toppled president abdulaziz beautifully last year theres the headlines more news for you here on aljazeera after todays inside story next. Algerians have voted in a referendum theyre deciding whether to approve changes to the constitution it follows months of antigovernment protests and anger so theres algeria need a new constitution and how will it affect the balance of power this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program. Last year algerias protest movement toppled longtime leader abdel aziz with a flick but protesters are still demanding change because they say many of the old political elite are still in charge new president. Has promised to address their complaints on sunday his government held a nationwide referendum to approve changes to the constitution they include the introduction of president ial term limits giving more powers to parliament and allowing the military to be deployed abroad but many algerians say the changes dont go far enough will bring in our guest in a moment 1st this report from hamad of all. 4 knew the 2 years millions of other judeans have been demanding change they say they want to move the system of polish hailing a stronger popular representation and got on to use of social individual rights. President of the machine to boon promised to address those demands through amendments to the constitution. If approved then limits president s to serve only 2 terms in office and good. The president the ability to appoint a Prime Minister from his own party if it wins in a dorothy and crucially it will give parliament the power to remove the Prime Minister through a motion of no confidence. The government says the amendments respond to peoples fundamental aspirations by stablish ing a genuine democracy there are more changes planned on social and individual freedoms we dont recognise this system in power and this constitution if passed will plunge us into the abyss just as the previous ss of those in power plunged us into your best we do not recognize them but a form is designed to turn the page on a history of centralized powers and military intervention in our politics. I swear that whatever they do we will not stop until we achieve independence and i swear that we will continue to fight until this regime falls. The protest movement otherwise known as a dark force that is a condition of the resident Abdelaziz Bouteflika in april last year after months of masalas but government critics see his loyalists both civilian and military still around the country. Even after the president ial election that was organized in december in an attempt to bring a change. All 5 president ial candidates in that election were part of the former government elections for the lowest turnout in algeria as history. The date to november 1st is symbolic for judeans its the 66th anniversary of the beginning of the war of independence from colonial from us but the mood of National Solidarity the judea witnessed on 45 years ago is largely absent today because of political diffusion. Of disease. Algeria has a long history of unrest that goes back more than 30 years in 1988 riots forced constitutional changes that led to the 1st multiparty system in 1902 a military coup preventing the islamic salvation front from winning elections sparked a civil war 7 years later i see it with a flick of became president and played a role in bringing an end to the war but his bid to stand for a 5th term last year sparked mass protests and led to his resignation adam is used to and took over in a controversial election promising to launch a new algeria protesters say the government hasnt done enough to meet their demands. All right lets bring in our guests in casablanca yes man has now in the north African Affairs specialist in beirut dalia hanum a resident scholar at the malcolm h. Kirk Carnegie Middle East Center and in paris im a Research Fellow at the school for the advanced studies in the social Sciences Welcome to each of you yes i mean let me start with you does this new constitution meet the demands of protesters who have been calling for political change. Well actually i. Actually remember that as the algerians are set to vote today because the 2 should the referendum which can cite would be any birth 3 a very important with the start of algerias work independence from france who 1542964 algerians we leaders b c 2 days can stick to sion as an important part of the strategy to move beyond algeria but britain and rest however many algerians that i heard you know as you know and i heard in that documentary that many algerians not of legal the participated in the in the heroic Street Scenes typical about many things 1st the scene skeptical about the articles of the constitution and the applicability of the constituent adding to that the algerian a position in racine that during the campaign of the referendum in the in last month that they were they rejected the the converted to sion and they you know the of those who go to the polls and besides that because they see that the constitution is the way to distract attention from the all the ruling elites continue with agree on so i think also important to know that todays referendum comes at a time when admitting that to born is puppetry lie in overseas in germany and may help there ever be that the new constitution there are present at centerpiece of a big maci to boot. Strategy to neutralize or actually contain that Heroic Movement when its pages you know that immigration last year like others eat very important when other see the b. B. C. Then the issue insurances that meet the book and they where with the with the people of these cabinets that because additional proposals were for. We reran on the foundation of modern. New argyria as you mentioned several times while serious. I think i think you have been unable to convince very me unable to convince the opposition the lawyers and also the algerian citizen that are still treated about this current new constitution are dalia let me ask you what are the main points then proposals that are at play in this constitutional referendum yes sure but because of that i want to Say Something of the change of the constitution or that amendment of the constitution where never actually one of the demands of the head never asked or that this is why this is a nonevent so. As a matter of fact the constitutional revision was adopted already on friday september 11th by the transfer of ministers and by the National Assembly and our house of parliament and the senate so what are the what does it contain the document contained 73. 00 recommendation divided into 6 main areas including strengthening the power of the separation of powers the president s prerogative the head of the government and parliament and the judiciary and the fight against corruption but mainly the president will not actually. Exercise supposedly exercise more than chill consecutive or separate mandates and the Prime Minister will be directly accountable to parliament but behind this choice it is very important to keep in mind that actually nothing really changes. The rejean is keeping is maintaining the consistent train station of power at the palace often more idea in the hands of the president who they choose him. And who chose this we are talking here about the military assault the military in the remain the real locus of power and they do what they have always done in ink place a man at the president ial palace there with the hyper power and control of him this is the political domination of the military of the military story this is the political domination of the military over 3000000000 and in the nutshell 7 military relationships and algeria didnt really challenge since being the president of the country in 1962. Opposition leaders and activists have denounced this referendum as a ploy simply for the regime to hold on to power to buy more time what do you say well we have to understand the huge prize is now in our drea if we talk about the constitution the constitution will be passed and it will be added to and altria we have a constitution that is has that yet mansion giving all power to all that is built on super out please the president ial powers and. President ial power is over to power means of justice in the also in Real Partnership and thats the 1st time that is is now im sure that such a constitution with the army now live the absence of to pull out you know is getting back to its old crimes is political crisis if some of what kind of balance between the military and president ial fast sad g. I. Can have and its not just the crimes is that has followed the young patients are all there is an issue of the search we since actually the regime really has not really been able to decide what kind of project what kind of vision or kind of balance between the soup. And to reach every stage he wanted but now with the absence of people and we are even getting back to the crises that we can that has started in 1902 since the army has counseled and you know it shows editions of have been ruined by that time designing Side Missions france it isnt just the crazies that its how hot its hurt really. And yet today it is what kind of political life without real political power. Can the regime in tehran with the absence of to go in what kind of with illusionary dish timoci can he seal constitutionalist in if he can he can the regime still. Play with we doubt recasts 0000000000 extension 0 without casting institutions without having new institutions without launching a new transition so really what is the key link currently in all jihad is a no crack is it that is once again put to had. With the absence of to boot and theres no way the all cheery and yet cant get out is crazy and then with a new president if to pull and dont come back some yes i mean you heard. Both speak a little bit about the role of the military in algeria in their answers i want to ask you to expand a little bit on that because one of the proposed changes in the constitution in the referendum now relates to the army it would allow them for the 1st time to be deployed outside of National Territory on International Peacekeeping missions are there concerns about what the implications of this would be for the military and for society. Well i actually have because i think that that the man meant meant that is is 1st of all its vague and it was actually because of the threats you know you see like that but thats the terrorism threat in the sahara what happens in libya in mali and central but it puts a little bit down about the you know that the regional as its like how these how large areas are going to deploy its you know its army and and what what what benefits can it can be given to algeria in order to be people who are disarmed so i think its its its its a big its a big big big debate and thats what whats what happened in the constituent to action is that many articles are vague and they have to be redefined not to bleed the deployments out of the army there should be like a kind of law that structures the deployment of the army we know we know whats happening in the region you know whats happening with the conflict that is happening in libya in mali etc and little bit of issues between you know that happening between you know. Morocco and and and and algeria knowing that that algeria is also in the police are you in its installer territory so one has to requestion that that the deployment and its among the reasons that you know the people in the here are are a bit confused about all these all these articles and its also the fact that many who didnt want to take up there are the streets despite the pandemic because because due to be men a better balance of power in the hole to steer the gentry away from other retirees and isnt so you know people in the hierarchy see that they did that to me the army is still that still has as a follower even if now agonising simply as was the july. In there at all overseas but we see that at the end of general of the the and the act in of the Armed Forces General that agent john kerry how conformant whoi who has not been neutral in his position regarding the constitution why didnt you know and. Karajan the ontario to go to go to the polls so i think that is that little bit you know questions and had to do Everything Else procedure that the going into the army overseas that that has to be really find and requests he by the International Community that he has since being elected has president suborn actually reached out to the head of a protest movement has there been any kind of dialogue. Well unfortunately the answer is no and by putting in place this referendum i believe that he is aggravating something that has started on february 22nd 2019 that is the legitimacy crisis there is a profound crisis of trust and legitimacy in. Let us as your report said it 1st one should remember that the election of. One took place despite its rejection by a majority of algerians and that abstention rate was officially at 60 percent and these are officially numbers so one can imagine what where what was the real numbers then you have a president. Who wanted all multiplied the declare ration of appeasement to the 2 words of the hair i look white and in practice all the store sets in motion the repressive machine with dozens of arrests of journalists of activists of ordinary citizen of happiness and finally at this new constitution is not a new move but actually every algerian president who came to power tried to leave his grill by putting forward and you constitution but what is really important to keep in mind is the difference between what good did and that the most. Well bluefin it back into power in 1909 was popular back then and people voted for him in addition the increase in oil revenues back then led to arise in Living Standards and the Business Class subordination to the president and his on to lunch today this is really hard to reproduce because of the difficult Economic Conditions so our journey ends are no longer in fact to be willing to accept a leadership model that produced not legitimacy but super. Through dependency and what is actually in that if i may add a little point what is actually a grab a think this is just a missile crisis the base tied to constituents and the Economic Situation that was exacerbated by the call of it 1000 crisis and its a poor management its also the Political Class inability to employ him and the systemic and genuine political changes for which algerians are calling and finally the departure of the president to germany and finally the departure of the president to germany and the total lack of transparency regarding his condition i mean just had to learn from the saddle of it that their president was sick this is a taunt to this day for the people so the people as i they are you the shunned by the need or ship in its Public Statement in the constitution as we have seen with the blessed head out of your head i believe as the constituent stated white actually showing the stain for popular demands and cracked it that is and portugal need for the redeem something about a jury and so were not to accept any more. Critics of the government have said that one of the reasons that authorities in algeria are reluctant to open up more political space there were at least in a more definitive manner is because theyre afraid that they will be held accountable for their actions during the countrys civil war do you think thats the case. Well of course that thats always the case that the military has always been afraid to be held accountable thats why this. That we need a president to be at countable for a Good Governance that again i believe that the real crises we are on react in algeria beyond the issue of constitution is really an end to the people that sense of a boon for the next and if we remember what happened in. 2019 when put fear. Was not algeria as president anymore what do we did we would now as we soledad to get sound i had the then chief armenian staff actually feel the vacuum of this. Has to have this factor hate of the state and now we are in the same student but we are having aggravating factors factors in terms of this crisis cough governor mentality and balance between you not me that there is military powers we. Hardly impacted by the. Health and education and social and Economic Crises that has been aggravated by it because he didnt and that has not been able to manage without. The follow ups and that you are even if as i said a new president each susan to take the place of that negative long so who anything any any any question because it will even really complicate things much more because if you remember where that the negative one came to paris he brought with him his own client tells his own plans and people who have been judged by algorithms have highly and competence of the new president is choose a you we also have to bring his own staff and it will take time and ill do you have now the looser regional us to those too. Titles not time and theres also a problem of constances between the top generals on the kind of 6 assert that we choose and thats also the main problem i see as to shaleen and relationship with the all g. M. People and the fact that they have been largely booking the last president ial elections 2 days with him around them how can you visit to nice and you president to new president ial elections that will be absolutely impulse people should have yes i mean we only have about 3 minutes left i want to ask you about the opposition in algeria because many have said that the opposition there has been weakened by not having effective leadership has the opposition actually been able to articulate a vision for the country. Well yes they have been very active with iraq with iraq and. Iraq must return. By the simple reason that they rejected a junior dream to complain they were boycotting the people to go to the to to to to the ball because because i think reports then revamp of all whatever was in the constitution article doesnt go in line with the aspiration of the people of the iraq and youre talking about the language im talking about identity algerian and identity at the track so i think that the really taste for today and decide to go the language what then yes they then i agree with are the really good points who are these going to do should we need to read the voter today were talking about the opposition how many we go we go to vote and he now we read for example and you know we are asking you is do you have like 63 can use that canceled. The vote because the security reasons so want to have to pay the enthusiasm of the algerian people besides the opposition and the readiness and conviction to go to to to to dibble then also during the campaign there were some obstruction of these opposition although they did a deeper from the hair act to have to do to have their say this is very important that lets not really reach xanga way that were really imprisoning so i think that lets remember also that during the president ial election there was like a turnout of less than 40 Percent People who would go to the both will end up and say now we have only 2 percent who went to the to the poll so i think i think everything is clear i think that there be a jury in leadership really need to know every you its its its its its a vision that the people have given the same because. That the algerians dont have the air that there is not good coverage of them not talking about algeria because everywhere that the old hearing has been effected for more than 100 years we talk about civilian war i dont think that the release of immune war anymore because the algerian have suffered a lot because of the colonization 100 years of the internal or civil war but all the need now is it is a Good Governance all we need now is is to find that like a good good will fare for them so i think that and for that yes they will be our. People we vote and i but i dont think its going to be at the expectations of or at the expiration of the iraq people adding to that the recorder also. And yes i mean i guess i mean im sorry im sorry to interrupt but wait we have run out of time so were going to have to leave the conversation there thanks to all our guests yes mean has now it that we have on him and will because and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website aljazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a. J. Inside story for me mama drama the whole team here bye for now. Talk to old jews there are we as is the government not taking the necessary action to really address some of the structural issues we listen i still think that travel is the safest mode of travel and to spend that we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on old a 0. To 5 g. Internet Technology Game changer thread i dont want to be a human maverick activists. 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