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President ial election facebook is again in the spotlight over how it is tackling misinformation and hate speech on the spot for today we look at the efforts of one Pressure GroupHolding Facebook to account of what the company itself is doing to clean house in the run up to election day if youre watching on the cheap you can send us your comments and questions from the life chat having part of todays conversation and you could waste tweet us put a straight. Us democracy is at risk old facebook to account that is the declaration of a new group a social media experts criticizing the companys content moderation policies as the u. S. Election approaches the collective of activists journalists and academics calls itself the real facebook Oversight Board heres what one member of the group said its not sufficient. We demand comprehensive action to ensure that race cannot be weaponized to undermine the vote and with that american democracy ours is an emergency intervention are evident Mr Zuckerberg and facebook employees. Now approach their 9 minute of the 11th hour in this democratic crisis and the time for excuses and political deals is. Facebooks official Oversight Board announced it will start accepting cases today joining us to talk more about responsibilities of facebook during the elections in london cowal cadwallader shes organizer of the real facebook Oversight Board and a journalist at the guardian and observe a newspaper this kates clinic is assistant professor at St Johns University law school i was researching facebooks own Oversight Effort she is in new york and d. P. I. At gosh is codirector of digital platforms and democracy project at Harvards Kennedy school he joins us from cambridge massachusetts and everybody we also invited facebook to join us and they didnt offer up a guess but they did copy and paste a statement from earlier on this month so i will show you some of the highlights of that statement during the sheva it was really good to see you carol the real facebook Oversight Board of calling this moment and emergency what is the emergency the magic. Social me yet. Of which there is absolutely no oversight or accountability is about to make absolutely critical decisions which are going to affect the outcome of the us election and also the chance were a power and its quite terrifying the amount of power that it has in this situation and how little its done since 2016 when we know that it was used to facilitate and its hacked on the u. S. Democracy by russia and there are very many people whove come to get the experts who come together on the real place who are they in many of them are genuinely terrified about whats going to happen in the next few weeks and that facebook may be used to incite violence and in fact i say it may be used but we know that it is already being used to incite violence undermine the election and to vote and you know that is something which i think the whole world news became attention to writing the moment we got the other costs not all the fire and at to create the not. Well carol its absolutely right and this is why i love the real Oversight Boards work so much. Lets lets look at the actual Oversight Board for a moment it looks at a narrow set of cases. You know its a very narrow set of opportunities its not its branded as an Oversight Board over the company and yet its actual oversight its actual or you are the company used almost non as compared to the to the. You economic social and political impact of the company itself. Right and i i think i think time has come for us to really pull those big feet to the fire certainly basements. As as a company that is having met in fact and is not doing right by by democracy. I think we are getting to. A just a few hours before we went live to all 20 doubt this starting today facebook and instagram and facebook at south canalis the forward to independently independent review content decisions that this is the official facebook Oversight Board not the real oversight vote just so that were not sick of gays to have this is facebooks one the pressure quit so on and they basically tell me what any today is how they got to handle rests at top what to make of this this is this progress that were seeing right here. Yes so i kind of want to i was nodding before i was carolyn stand because i actually do you agree with the idea that these companies are way too powerful and do not have good leverage points and that there isnt an effective means of oversight i dont have any disagreement with that in fact i think that like the real say or a group that like carol setting up like is going to have an impact and like i im kind of of the opinion that we should throw like everything at the wall and see what sticks and in the world of trying to figure out how to manage these massive corporations and their their control and their governance over our basic human rights. But i will say this which is that. Its kind of a fiction that dick pound just said to have i. Like to say that he is a fan of the real over the real Oversight Boards that like carol set out over the Oversight Board when the Oversight Board which is independent from facebook which is made up of an independent group of experts which is funded completely separately and has a mandate to hear court like appeals from users and how does actual purchase although narrow over the ability of facebook to make its policy decisions like that it doesnt have like impact like the real Oversight Board that carol set up has p. R. Impact but thats the only thing that it has and thats no better than what weve had already let me just bring in here i dont rush. To. Want. To marry him and then when you allan hes one of the Board Members from the official facebook Oversight Board guy i think i hope im not going to say they mean that i didnt say that it doesnt have no impact that it did it no impact but rather that it has very limited in it to repeat myself very limited internet as compared to the tremendous economic political and what was i think for me was limited to empower me doesnt you know its a more or less limited than like what the Oversight Board. Yeah i dont even know what that even means are you going to take down 50 percent more tweets all 20 percent what does that even mean to fiat as they use it all the facebook wall what does little to mean i cant get almost like social media check to monetize a bit of it well what can you clarify i see that i hear the pushback but i dont understand what it means yeah. Well kate mentioned that carols. Journals real Oversight Board is it is or isnt. As a p. R. Here i am i think that actual Oversight Board is actually if you arent yes it has a charter yes its financially independent yes they have a process and yes i think that its been set up in a way that it actually does not really hold the Company Accountable you know you know considerable way and and to be a little bit more specific here this because a mirror has a virtual monopoly it has a tremendous market power in social media its that its the dominant player through facebook and instagram and other other applications. And theres a huge amount of Economic Activity that goes through facebook and that narrow off already that the border has over certain pieces of content that that border has capacity to to take upon itself to review and which facebook allows the board to review. Is just going to result in not that much impact when we think about the vast majority of. Content issues that we have on the platform today on the companys platforms today as well as its Economic Calendar how can i get. This idea that its critical and you know i hope that it can have. Issues around which piece of content came back up again that you can remember this is the seed green cool if you now did you mean cool it dont try to remember is that its a supremes rule all of these numbers have been selected i think but then the people who own the real facebook i decided on the shoulder and also joined and i think i really do you question how independent at the moment and i. I know that there are you know it really feels you know very glad to. But how did it how can i bring in a distrust to your point because theres no no rush but i know you know and hes what in the party hes been the editor of the guardian. Former editor in chief of the guardian newspaper. He was asked this question how independent can you actually be and this is what he sure does have a lot of men there were quite a lot of face people on the zune call no no there arent. No none of us. And we havent as a board met anybody from facebook and i think were very conscious that we dont work race but were we are an independent. Oversight board and now do you know im whether somewhere down the road we might want to have a dialogue with facebook but at the moment. Facebook. Are absolutely not in the room. So i think i was facing saying is that we dont work for facebook we are independent people as have a look at some of these independent Board Members here kowen just one more point in this that were going to move on yeah i know its a really great point and you know and of course you know its you know tomorrow and so many of those people are you know like real intellectuals huge reputations and of course they are independent but the thing you back to the reason is that we have seen in facebooks actions towards us as a group and what what they have tried to do in terms of trying to kill the project before it even started in terms of these different boiler moves that its made in terms of in fact even getting our website you know the internet these are moves which have been made by facebook and we even when i sent inquiries to place the Oversight Board i did face the executives. So there is definitely a relationship there and thats not as i say its not the cost of their actions on any of them and you know as i say they are all really individuals in their own right but this is the structure which has been paid for sex established by faced with its terms of reference a set i base that charter that i face that i really hope that this rebel and this body that because thats and i hope that we help by giving them leverage and support in that way. But i think they have to i really do think that they need to go wrote let me push on a little bit because people are watching us and the commenting so look at size can i put this to you well other country have their own Oversight Board. As you know not one for having one theres one Oversight Board just like there is why and like set of Community Standards and policies for all of facebook we dont have a balkanized internet and terms of like these platforms the reason they comply individually with laws within countries and they do that theyre geo blocking so for example Holocaust Denial is illegal or sorry Holocaust Denial is illegal in france and germany and so they like they will geo lock certain types like speech in france and germany but its legal in the United States and so they dont do it there. So theres not this isnt this isnt about geography its but i just wanted to Say Something really quick because i think that like were there is there are just small amount of like and i know that a 30 minute talk on live t. V. Is never the best place to really like break bread and like make me feel like kind of like inroads on things but i do want to say that like everything that has been said so far by the other guests i agree with i just dont think that what there is yet is like a reason to be skeptical of the actual Oversight Board which is its own independent organization to carols point i think it could take up the mantle that she kind of is like pushing for or that did not is pushing for i think that those that i possibility use i just dont think it has to come at the cost of that tool necessarily like. My kind of just like dragging it all over the media like theres still a chance that the overs they. Could do something really significant and i dont think it cost us a lot to put some hope in that town let me just in lighten everybody because. In a great position cause they already know what the real facebook oversight are asking for but here in a tweet very easy for everyone to access the demands facebook must enforce its own policy banning all paid advertising that mentions president ial Election Results or organic posts about president ial Election Results as untrue and premature until one candidate is the president elect and the other candidate concedes just so that everybody here is on the same page about what it is that you are pushing to have done carol may have put one more you to comment to you so that were sharing our conversation without audience im sure youve heard this before simone smith says facebook is free speech if you control facebook you have lost your freedom carol. Great i mean. I should get somebody else through that when i mean the idea that your quitting 3 speech youre investing one man one billionaire Mark Zuckerberg with the power to start decreasing your home there is more than 3000000000 people across the globe who use facebook products i mean if thats your idea of free speech that an unknown algorithm weve got no idea how it works and certain messages and doesnt amplify other ones one of the things we see and find thats been a white supremacist weve got no idea how that works or whats going on inside the company and i thats not free speech that you know thats that artificially enhanced and amplified and thats just one of the many issues going on but i mean can i just come back on something which is the thing that kate said about not be cynical about the Oversight Board and you know i really do wish them all the very best of luck and i hope also they dont get a good outcome yet but i think its certainly wrong not to be cynical or facebook now as a journalist whos been reporting on these companies for 4 years you have had i have had the e. C. In a report in which they find facebook 100000000. 00 they say that Facebook Like to journalist is one of your lists who is like you but its the last week when are the really long launch the real facebook Oversight Board i had columns man coming out on twitter to troll me personally once using to pressing wineries about why our state our website had been taken down he came out to troll me about cambridge generally sikka which is the story i wrote and which facebook was fined 5000000000. 00 for using people. And corporate reaction was to. A spokesman to go out on twitter and attack me personally now i now read and sexily and shrum and it makes me really wonder what is going on inside what its priorities are and what its relationship is with the Current White House guess i didnt mention the face but wouldnt send a guest to sit alongside you but they did send a copy and paste it statement it did have a spelling error in it so they see the spelling i its not me its facebook alright so this is what they said they have done ready for the us elections so between march and september of this year theyve removed more than 120000 pieces of facebook and instagram content in the u. S. Theyve displayed warnings theyve rejected ads to missions before they could run about 2200000 times theyve removed it announce Certain Networks and gauge and coordinating in authentic behavior they said theyve done a lot we also wanted to bring a Research Record shot and seem who was looking at these all the things that facebook of everyday reacted really well shalen has a but lets have a listen. Facebook is going in some things way in the run up to the 2020 alexi