Transcripts For ALJAZ Talk To Al Jazeera Nikol Pashinyan 20

Transcripts For ALJAZ Talk To Al Jazeera Nikol Pashinyan 20240712

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On the previous episode of talk to al jazeera i mean youre doesnt want peace they want to keep all lands on the creation floor or they dont want to change the status quo to think of me as a government over estimated their socalled importance on global arena. They made the possible International Support to them and made a very serious mistakes are walking talking and now theyre suffering the very serious defeat was a Previous Army and leaders we had to process and reverse elaborating their socalled step by step approach otherwise we wouldnt have been in this process for so many years it was not a useless time. I think we made a very big progress. This process says to solve an unfree anough the question young came to power he not only destroys every single was before him and he wants to pretend that i mean youre before him did not exist and hes now as a create a new i mean a he destroyed all the elaborated principles. But as the fighting continues between armenia and azerbaijan over the disputed region of me going to we now hear from the armenian Prime Minister nicole pressure. Talks to aljazeera. Prime minister. Thank you for talking to aljazeera now were at the stage where theres open confrontation between armenia and azerbaijan what are your preferred options an increased military pushback against azerbaijan the cease fire talks. Me. I would like to start off by clarifying something about your question because in this particular case armenia is acting as the guarantor of security. And those are by john launched at the direct attack on. Armenia certain obligations to provide the security have not gone. On in this context. Also started to strike settlements in the republic of armenia and the civilian population in the republic of armenia the september 27th offensive of azerbaijan on began with shelling. Civilians settlements and this is a fact that we need to acknowledge and then the rest of the answer to the question would be would be as follows when there is an attack when there is aggression. The very 1st. Is to protect from that aggression and to stop that aggression. After which only will it be possible to talk about negotiations in a situation in which there is an aggression i can say with confidence that the armenians have not going to will not retreat in the face of the aggression. At the same time its necessary to acknowledge that the issue of nagornokarabakh has nothing but a peaceful solution. In. Confronting the aggression wolf the fact that prove it but are you saying then that then the book before there is a peaceful solution you are going to have to make some military gains. As i said already our work task is to the fans because i was there by john launched an attack in the direction of. And obviously the very 1st task of the army was of us to defend against this aggression. Well then what is the likelihood of a military Political Alliance formal military Political Alliance with nagornokarabakh cannot be seen we are discussing the possibility. The fact exists because we state that is the guarantor of security of. And we need to think now about its future development. In our agenda we do indeed have this point and its very important to note this situation has created a new reality a new military political reality in our region one component as i said is that for many years. After developing a military rhetorical attacked. And it happened it has happened with turkeys. Support and in the International Media there is already brought discussion of the fact. In the territories that it controls in syria turkey is recruiting mercenaries and transporting them to our region and therefore armenia. Need to increase our cooperation in the security field would you go as far as recognizing an independent. There is that agenda. That is an item in the agenda and that this issue will be taken or not taken to pending on a variety of factors you mentioned turkey in your answer and yes turkey has now come out firmly on the side of azerbaijan says it will support as a by john and has criticized your approach to azerbaijan but do you have evidence really that turkey is supplying going this far supplying mercenaries. The evidence of it is appearing in the International Media day after day one after another in reputable sources such as the guardian reuters the relatives of these mercenaries are telling the stories their family members are telling the story and specific individuals soft testified they have spoken to journalists in sirte that turkey is recruiting those people transporting them to azerbaijan to take part in the war against armenia and theyre going to. Let me. Repeat something to you written by. Former u. S. Ambassador to azerbaijan he said this when this conflict started he said the poor people of armenia and azerbaijan a paying for the price of uninspired leadership in and yet that refused to seize opportunity after opportunity to peacefully deal with the conflict regarding the going back is he right what could you have done differently to prevent this happening. You know essentially everything thats needed to be done has been done when i entered the office of the Prime Minister of the republic of armenia i proposed. As a basis for my policy on the issue saying that we have to agree that any settlement any solution to the conflict has to be acceptable to the people of armenia to the people of not going to cut off and to the people of azerbaijan and this is something which i proposed as a basis for settlements of the conflict unfortunately. Azerbaijan starting from the mid 2000 has essentially being advancing the military philosophy and policy as an option for resolution and as is refusing to name the way to engage in mutual concessions and i think what is significant here is a dictate tauriel governments such as the one established in azerbaijan is not inclined to make mutual concessions and only ate them only elected governments are capable of engaging in or proposing neutral concessions such as the one which i proposed in that forum you just mentioned and instead in return and the president of azerbaijan essentially said that the solution of the issue of 10 happened. Only within the frames of azerbaijans territorial integrity which means. The issue of caught up would retire and through the status quo where it began in 1988. In the days of the soviet union therefore it would be impossible to resolve any conflict by returning it to the point where it began i eat. Given that historical reference yes i understand but and i know you probably have not much time for reflection at the moment you are busy handling this day to day but have you looked back and said why have we got to where we are that today could i have done something differently that would have stopped this outbreak of violence and this loss of life. There is only one option to yield to azerbaijan blackmail and threats which and theyre going to. Cannot be acceptable here is one example to some well known events in World History you could ask what could the u. S. Government have done to prevent 911 from happening if this comparison seems to you like an exaggeration i would tell you that just 2 months ago official representative of the Azerbaijani Ministry of defense threatened to strike the Armenian Nuclear power plant what needs to be done what is it that needs to be done for it to keep somebody from uttering those threats. When you came to power after the velvet revolution particularly from azerbaijan we were hearing there were high hopes that. There would be a move towards peace and its just not happened you have from that perspective not delivered what they hoped you boot. After the revolution that took place in armenia there was a lot more hope been there by john that the wave of the market position would also reach us there by john but those hopes were not. Because the president of azerbaijan continuously uses the. To justify his rule when the velvet revolution happened in armenia in azerbaijan a society more hope emerged that a similar revolution would also occur in azerbaijan. To prevent that revolution and to carry on with it dictate tauriel rule azerbaijan intensified its bellicose rhetoric which led to todays situation. Youve been on the phone a couple of times with Vladimir Putin how have those conversations gone can you lead as into the tone the measure the content of those conversations. Over this time without phone calls with the president of france the chancellor of germany with the president of the Islamic Republic of iran with the u. N. General secretary twice with a bloody mary putin had 2 phone calls but i think i will be having more phone calls with the french president and other leaders and we discussed the ongoing situation we discussed the development of the variance and we discussed the possibilities of our corporation in that respect but the one that matters is what he had to say what he thinks what he says is the one that matters most to you isnt it. B. Russia is a cochair country of the or c. In minsk group and with russia armenia deep partnership in the security fields including the fact that there is a Russian Military base in armenia and there are certain treaties in effect which are in force in effect and perhaps the agenda of our discussions is more diverse in that respect. Well do you want moscow to be neutral for azerbaijan they have. One has clearly stated his support for azerbaijan would you like to see something similar come from Vladimir Putin in your favor. When you see here is a position that 1st of all russia as a cochair country of the oil group should take all measures for security and peace in the region and for the resolution of the conflict. Russia has with other amenia commitments in the security fields and i to be Precise Corporation in the security field that is one of the items in our agenda would you want to see russian peacekeepers for example in the going to kind of or you see those issues could be discussed in the context of the wider resolution within the or c. Means group cochairmen ship president. Says that youve been provoking him youve been allowing the Armenian Diaspora to settle in the gorup car but youve been encouraging it hes been left with no option they have this long list of grievances its that territory youve done nothing to try and. Resolve this conflict so that is why we are where we are out here today. Look you see those allegations of the armenian government resettling people from the diaspora in around allegations for 2 reasons firstly the armenian governments. Has got nothing to do with. Territorial development and secondly. From armenia. For many years. Many armenians make great it from their home. And those people have lived in different parts of the world in russia in europe in the middle east in the United States of america. I do not preclude that some of those people might return to live in their homes. To portray it as something going to usual would be illogical. Provocation not unusual that the president says its not unusual to to allow people to go back its a provocation provoking when you see. Anyone after 15 or 2015 or 20 years. From their homes or 30 years back and be greeted from their homes and theyre returning to their homes to live in their homes is that. What is provocative about it could you explain to me. Well then you have also the allegations of the war crimes committed by the Armenian Forces back in the late eightys and early ninetys in the go on oconnor back that the European Court of human rights has catalogued and again a failure to address those issues. Thats a misunderstanding. That information coming from its just johnny propaganda its another one of the tools of azerbaijani propaganda because in the European Court of human rights there are other judgments and decisions that actually blame john for specific and concrete crimes we can also. Look at the infamous case of. The azerbaijani officer who was taking part in a together with armenian officers they were taking part in a Training Course of nato and he killed an armenian officer in his sleep with an axe for many years as a by john was developing and armenian propaganda and this is one of the consequences and that acts happened in hungary in pewter posts. To life in prison. After which after serving 8 years in prison he was. Extradited to azerbaijan where should an order releasing him. So there was a process of nationwide glorification of the person this one episode really illustrates the whole history of the conflict and the context of todays events. Is the script is also scribed with this today many of us have attacked people who were sleeping peacefully numerous armenians this is the story that is happening. Maybe on top of all of that though we can say that the u. N. General assembly demands the unconditional withdrawal of all Armenian Forces from the occupied territories of azerbaijan and. Then the big one second please i beg your pardon have you actually read the Security Council resolution so if youve personally read it its very important that whatever were referring to whatever were citing we should read what the text says and that is the following by john violate. The cease fire agreement and the situation that subsequently emerged was a consequence of breach of the internationally reached commitments of azerbaijan thats very important that resolution that youre with your side actually refers to a certain pacific event in the at a specific point in time after that its after the sea minsk group cochairmen ship was formed and all the nuances of the issue have been discussed in that forum the negroes in the negotiations which opened in the frames of the oil is the group it is in those negotiations as it is a result it is these negotiations that should result in solving all the issues. Ok last year Prime Minister august 29000. 00 you went to up you went to the going to karabakh and you told the crowd. Hes armenia period leading those crowd in chance for unification do you regret that now in retrospect was not the right thing to do that. We should again note the facts as i told you already i proposed a formula and i proposed that we should undertake to Seek Solutions that will be acceptable to the people of armenia to the people of qatar and to the people of azerbaijan. And i was the 1st leader. Involved in this conflict who said that any solution of the order book issue should be acceptable also to the other side and the meaning of the proposed formula was to get the azerbaijani president to adopt a similar approach so that we could have a totally different and new situation in the in the negotiations. In response to that the president of azerbaijan continues the bellicose statements by saying its the issue of not going to cut off has only one solution and that is caught above is a part of azerbaijan and i note it and i made a statement illustrates that the approach of the azerbaijani president is impermissible given specially that in 1908 the autonomous region. Through its Supreme Council expressed the will to join armenia the republic of armenia besides i would like to highlight that. Tend not be as they are by john for a simple reason at the time of the collapse of the soviet union just like azerbaijan gained independence from the soviet union in exactly the same manner in the autonomous region of the. Exercise its rights constitutional and legal rights over the then soviet union to gain independence from the soviet union and azerbaijans position on the issue boils down to 3 storing or through to a need to restore the soviet school which is simply impossible. Promise that time is against the sport one more question before we finish on the domestic situation you remain very popular in the popularity the brought you to power. During the revolution is still that not as popular as you were we understand there have been some small protests against tax policy tax reform education minister. Im sorry. Opinion poll. Im just reflecting what weve seen in local coverage you are popular i give you that Prime Minister yours. I

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