its people its economy and the way it deals with the rest of the well the bottom line only on al-jazeera. hi i'm femi oke a day on the string the protest movement led by young people and island could students be the tipping point. if you can be part of the conversation just jump right into the comments that you too can be in this. i guess welcome to the stream great to see you i am going to say hi to the guests he will introduce themselves and i put the tell everybody. how. i am still shipp professor at the center for study at kyoto you know with the in japan. welcome emily good to have you tell everybody. hi everyone my name is emitted the founder and director. of human rights organization and i'm also an international human rights are your thanksgiving on the screen and i turn to tell everybody you know how many attacks most i'm a bank how base multimedia journalist and producer i cover current affairs politics and i've been closely following the pro-democracy protests movement thank you so much tara let me you know we just shared this with you and this is a statement that came in from the education minister just a couple of hours before the start of our show and he wanted to contribute to our show in some way this is the education minister in thailand he says we sympathize with many of the aims of the protest movement such as the need for constitutional reform but we must be realistic about the pace of our democrats turn session which will take time tara you've been in the protest you've been reporting on the protests can you explain what the demonstrators what the protesters want that would potentially take so much time. right now the story there are 3 main demands for the pro-democracy protests which is to rewrite the constitution to just all parliament and to for the authorities to stop harassing the people or critics so you know writing the constitution and stopping the parliament that in itself might take a while especially because the parliament right now is set up with $250.00. appointed senators so how the lay of the land how the political system government works in thailand right now everyone is kind of place there with people who are already on top so it might be a little difficult to challenge the current system and the current. you know groups that are in power. given i'm just looking at pitches a some of the most recent protests when you see these young people in thailand some of them young some of the not so young what do you think what do you feel well i mean s m one who has campaigned for a long time for an open discussion of the issue and to see if they wouldn't today coming out for the same purpose of wanting for and what we form our very excited trio and i think this also showed a sort of a generational gap you know what you see on the street today in bangkok or elsewhere you know across the country are they our different from other precess so in many way i think. they have become or they have become more ambitious and you know that in thailand talking about issue of the would not be can be re dangerous so i mean my hardly go out for them for their arrest because i think to be aliased realistic if you want to change the political situation in thailand and then you have to talk about the most difficult issue of the country and that is not so yeah i think i think there are correct is really of our audience will appreciate how difficult it is to talk about the malecki in thailand you want to just be very very talented about what might happen if you do that and the law surrounding defamation and the more likely so everybody who's watching is on the same each. well yeah sure i mean i myself you know have been charged with this much there let's not since they're all basically. anyone you know who. insolvable not that who put you up in prison for up to 15 year so i think this lesson existing law has sort of states that in a way for them to move forward we do what i say should you know you can have free discussion or not be and because of that you won't have to morrissey so that's why i have to emphasize once again that the fact that it's still going out on the street today. will not be you since very courageous and then many way they break down how that wall of the discussion of the defense of the less much less than or to look at the courage to sing on the streets. i was just going to add to that i was just saying it's also a time for young people who are also super interested in politics which isn't necessarily happened in thailand before when i was growing up it was politics was not something you talked about you know on the dinner table or with friends but now with young people moving to twitter and with political subjects trending on a daily basis you can really see that they got people not only the young people when you go to the protest you see that you know the old people the elderly the like everyone of all ages are there but especially online could see that engagement with the young people which i think is very exciting and very new. if you come back here my lad to you can see so most of the social media that tara has been sharing on twitter and some of these pitches remarkable with young people they use in club culture in order to get their message across i also want to speak bringing young up who had a particular view about what was driving the protests and really haven't listened to him and i'd love to. economy suffering and discrimination in driving type people if this were to devote the. horseman off and legacy to korea and a left out one of the 400 life for the country that depends a lot on foreign tourist and explore question what are 3000000 people to be defined voice but the government has been incompetent to visit with the relief of the people who are reduced to a financial support and unemployment compensation but alas drove him to live in order to get typical well probably didn't read your own programs. if you spiritus by the government kept on telling people not to live. and we want young up and saying was that it was economics lustration discrimination that was all centralizing people to protest and all the change as a human rights expect how do you own power. you know thailand is very divided when it comes to inequalities 10 has been in 10 has been crossed or the most inequality question in the world by the critics ready to criticize race with only one percent of the population attending the wealth of the country so you know young people are already tired of the inequalities governing time and the fact that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and the corrent military backed government and when you look at what is happening with called me you will have more than 10000 people that my who's the child and if you look at what the government has been doing in terms of providing support to poor families or they try to provide 5000 baht a mosque to to the poorest i mean even they were not granting it to everyone sex workers will not have will to get a migrant workers were not able to get it in vision his people were not able to get it so there is a real real discrimination in a way that these are occasion was provided and also the type people are also very tired of the emergency decree the more the emergency decree will be extended to give full power to the government the less there will be tourism coming back to the country and the less economy power will be given back to the country and when you look at the current situation the tiger man is considering opening up borders only to rich tourist so again the people who will be impacted are always the poorest of the country as in smaller cities and small businesses won't be able to make money so the consideration of the government when it comes to could be $19.00 is really to facilitate the france besuited because tales and again making the rich more rich so what young people are already asking me tell and he's and then to to real inequality they want the country to be equal they want a real democracy they want the marquis to stop governing the country they want and then to me that mission and i mean let me let me put this to you this is this is a new chief of the thoughts that you are just sharing with us so this is from some guy so he says that the thai young generation wants more security in their future such as jobs social benefits of welfare reform freedom of speech time long list how does that happen any. if you look at the way tell him i mean i'm the type that every living in thailand for a long time and i have my mother somebody from tenet and there is real inequalities and there is now that we are in the 21st century you have poor families and poor students are already able to get education but there where that island is big built it's built on real it's by corner it's over it's preparation you have the establishment the yellow shirts the people who are rich and then you have the chorus that now are those the poor as i get it you titian social media is driving young people one equality for everyone they want to have opportunities for everyone they want social services for everyone they would they don't want it just for the establishment and what is the rechecking is that you have the well educated people quasi party of the establishment who don't want things to change and who are very well aware of the inequalities of the country so that's why the fact that students are leading the way for change and the fact that students are in the streets calling for democracy and calling of free speech is because they want a better future for themselves and they want everybody to be heard not only the rich ones not only the kids of rich ones not only the establishment they want everybody to hear be heard kids from the siren want to be heard kids from the south talking about the everyone who wanted to be there has been also wants to be heard he's leaning in ramallah i mean i think the state tried to be polite not to him to win but but i think the discussion to the today i don't think we should do is track a bit since this is the bar or the direct request from the student you know for. we're not going to form so i understand that that you can issue is the real issue that emily had to set but then how does connect with the student requests to see very formidable not right we have we need to make this kind of connection i think a young girl really become frustrated partly because of coal we. do have called we you don't have a lot of us of course we but get at the same time as someone else of what's there what is the how does. martin seeing the mean time the economic hardship keep young really hard but but then we were just in this endeavor king king watching one having such a good time you know in germany where. that has become a long term stay here already you know bangkok a family holiday destination. it is family best and i think that little at the fuss mission of this is that also only after. we discussed earlier but this is about the response of the op the more not you know. that they have been less and attend there . and they just want to come home and look after their so i mean i think it's just this one of the key issues that drive just to get on board with this. exact absolutely and to go off of that they actually have made a list i think it was 1st introduced or very popular eyes during the time aside. protests well they had a list of 10 actions and what i think it's really really important to note that they're not trying to demolish the modern either trying to ask for what they're asking for is more transparency it's more you know accessibility more like the british royal family maybe you know about the building to talk about that and be critical about them to talk about their work and maybe get enough experience in the works you know and i you know it's not to destroy the system it's just to look at the system and need to adapt it to the modern world with the changing times according to one just well that because yeah yeah let me let me just bring in the end in this because you inspired me and i don't know is is one of the. truth. he's also a human rights activist as well and this is what he said about the monarchy and how people want to relate in monaco in future. we must be able to speak about this publicly speak with respect for the regime and the institution of the monarchy but if we don't discuss it we will never be able to fix the problem i say this not for the purpose of demolishing the institution but i speak so that the institution can exist in the society rightfully under democracy with the king as head of state to have a curia i think you've exactly right like the only way for the way forward for improvement to change better or worse is discussion and i think it's really important to have discussions with people and you completely i know in this landscape it might be hard to engage with people you completely disagree with to hear their point of view and to be in the middle because yeah i think communication is really key in looking forward to figuring things out and that it applies to. reform. you know the government and whatever institutions i think we should be able to talk about it. let me put this to putting this is on you shoot a really bad thank you and bad message being on the program i think the monic eat the government in thailand must stand the protesters should continue to pressure on the government if they really want to see change a thing they do want to take us. well i mean point back to what are known said basically to sum up in one sense hence unknown one to wonder or not to be constitutional i mean exactly this is not about abolishing. the monarchy so all and to talk about abortion we're not in the so is a crime in thailand anyway student has has moved on from the tree point that they suggested at the beginning had come to a point and then within this ted party basically destined it in their legal framework what other parts you know we cannot go on to list you know for 10 but i would pick certain things anyway interesting for example even your demands of being you're going through the demise to students around but i doesn't feel that that will be the high life or for the discussion among the 3 of us so one is the the evolution of the left much as the law the other one is the evolution of particle physics that would allow us you know to press 2 for content to get them or not be from now on the one who can who are wrong because traditionally one of the can do no wrong right then and we have to only order that allow or did the king to have peace on private army then he has to be transparency on his financial asset and status when we have to discuss the power of the law and the last one which is really important in my opinion you see this investigation for adoption and also the opposite don't always see eye happens come one of the weak teams luckily i still survive so i think mr daly highlight you know what is the don't want to see what i don't see it once again constitutional lives in the one. let me play it for you because i think this is important to do to see in thailand that no everybody is supporting the students so there are protests of people who do love the monarchy is have a listen to their thoughts. on board. i don't care if you talk about politics you can protest about the government go ahead and do so but do not touch the monarchy we cannot let that happen that's why so many of us came out today and you go on thinking all. the groups criticize and defame the monarchy and spread misinformation with baseless facts it's clear that they are attacking the top institution of the country. he could stand back and give us like a little snapshot of how people in 2000 and use them want to kate it's difficult because they're not allowed to say anything those brand anyway but if you could get a sense of. what the feeling is you know what would you say of course well traditionally the king and the modern it's almost part of the thai you know our it's part of our flag it's really in crazy and in our culture it's in it you see a picture of the king in every store every household it's very bad it in our society our culture and during the the previous king king rama 9 was very very loved by the people he did a lot of. it he did a lot of things to improve the lives of the poor so there was a lot of respect for the monarchy especially when the when the romanized was around he was extremely reviewed and there was no question about that when he when he passed away people mourn for months people were crying openly on the streets so. after that after we transition to the 210 the relationship between the monarchy and the people has changed a little bit because this king is not always in the public eye hasn't necessarily done as much work as his dad so you know the relationship between how people perceive the king is changing and but that being said there's also there you know the culture tradition remains intact and there's also a huge group of people as you can see on the screen right now who are viewers the mater key. yet. to the mother they're always had sent. i'm just i just feel like if i don't share put being a facebook page i'm going to be in trouble for the you know have had several social sites where people feel safe they can actually talk about the monkey maybe changes of the moniker if i show you this picture here one of the private pages can you explain what is going on all well that is my beloved king king rama the 10 so i think iran has been very deep we need to promote it but i can understand where that's come from when we talk about the different the differences between the talking but going back to that in the media of course we had many i set up this process called the right of this marketplace to be a platform for serious discussion about the more not i tried to make it very very so this has gone to become very popular among especially younger generations and within 4 months we assume more than 1000000 members who saw the white become popular i do said that because it's sort of bringing together like minded people it's very difficult to talk about that we're not elsewhere but i think within this group we've created a kind of environment where people feel that if modest has been set to talk about we see especially among us who live understand the need to be great to be comfortable not so that's why that's what you've become very popular and along along the way you know goal hand in hand with the protests on the street also on a lot of them younger generation to. others at the end of the show the m.e. only that's what you wanted to add go ahead. yeah i think it's really that where they have had more actually is ready for it but i think we should also talk about the use that all leading the protests and many of them are not only in bangkok and many of them or they all want of course more like you know which feeds and democracy under the constitution but what we should not forget is also that under this current military backed government there is an increasing number of laws that have been passed cybill is that having passed to restrict on 13 them and that's also something that young people want to want to see stopping there's a lot of slack cases there's a little below that all being misused you know name of national security to crackdown on humorous activities and then right now when you look at all of the i read that all going on going off on it's not about 112 it's about 116 they are being charged under a city shown charges and before that everybody was being charged and the computer crime actual source information seems coby you have 28 people who have been charged under the computer come back for force for effect news just because daugherty call of the marquis someone said that national security is being used as a tool to crack down on human rights activists and if you look at i'm not on the famous human rights lawyer that he's leading also the crocus he is someone from east and i think i would like to talk for people from you sam because my family is also from east and have and they are not here on the panel but many of them talk about inequalities and many of them are driving the youth protests because they want to see an end to inequalities and they want to see an end to privileges and establishment so i think that's something that we cannot ignore and a lot of young people in the street in thailand not only in bangkok but throughout the country because their youth let's put this all on national white national i just noticed in many they are calling for equality and that's something that we cannot ignore there's a real inequality gap and they want a real chamula real democracy they want real equality and many almost at the end of the show. i want to share this with you because it's it looks pretty ominous this is from the prime minister of time it this is what he said at the end of this if each side in system defeating the other politically our country will collapse if that happens just wait and see everyone will live in a fiery land consumed by flames if that happens i am at a loss what to do i'm just going to go to you very briefly because we're literally in the last minute of the show tara will the student movement student that we've been will exceed tannic 68. i you know i've been called optimistic so but i believe so i think thailand since the 1932 revolution we've never had a disruption of the whole system where the the bottom rises down and everyone you know bottom up at it's so i think we're due for a real disruption of the 1st and i think maybe not in 5 maybe 10 years but i think it also means that in the tower in the last 30 seconds but been can listen right. well it can but it's august pen on the public support because we can no longer let me go on the parliamentary system right and then. but the popular yes i believe all it's all right so i'm summarizing because you're close it's chasing me emily 9 last thoughts go ahead yes there were 68 am i there were 6 you know more hopeful i don't see them statistics it in 10 years they are young they are going as there are smart they will feel less and i think i see them succeeding before in the next 5 years. and i hope so q tara and lipa theme actually ending on an optimistic note you cheapest thank you excellent conversation online appreciate it i think in your case signing off from the stream home edition see you next time and so watching everybody. from fossil fuels to modern day renewables as societies develop the energy demands increase requiring innovative solutions to meet such demands as a global power development of investment company nebraska power is uniquely positioned to deliver against these developments we provide business growth promote so show economic benefits and provide innovative safe and environmentally 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