Mali condemn regional mediation efforts and continue their demands for the president to quit. But cannot. Reach. And the tributes keep pouring in for one of the last members of Martin Luther kings in a circle civil rights icon an american congressman john lewis has passed away at the age of 80. And in sport here with hamilton clinches pole position for the hungaroring ground the defending formula one World Champion will start at the front of the grand for the 90th time in his career. So were starting in libya where a team from the International Criminal court is now on the ground tasked with investigating a warlord over possible war crimes investigators from the i. C. C. Of arrived in libyas capital to look into the acts committed by the forces loyal to. Khalifa haftar that is expected to include a visit to the mass graves found last month the 3 person team will also investigate booby traps left behind during a retreat by half to find is in residential areas south of tripoli the i. C. C. Says its received credible information regarding 11 mass graves containing men women and even children will start with mommy the correspondent in tripoli mahmoud this is obviously a very important investigation i wonder how it will go given that libya is still a country in conflict and these 3 members of the i. C. C. Have to try to do their job. Finitely and the government of National Accord here in tripoli which sent their requests to the International Criminal court demanding get an Investigative Team to come to libya to investigate what it calls war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by forces loyal to the warlords 3 for have turned in this city of the horn and in southern tripoli over the past year during their military campaign that they launched it to take control of the capital tripoli the government so far seems to be reluctant in revealing the details about the teams. Details exactly and did but we know from sources with the government of National Accord that the team is due to visit the city of their mass graves as you know that according to the government Paramedics Team nearly 2 125. 00 bodies have been recovered from the mass graves around the city of lahore now and also plus the secret notorious prisons as you know that we reported that and the past few weeks about the secret prisons where opponents including civilians and women were tortured and murdered and voted in the mass graves thats according to eyewitnesses the government officials and local officials from the city of daraa who are now along with medical sources now the team is also due to visit several areas in southern typically to check the areas where a land mines were planted in civilian areas specially those if you like ends of the neighborhood insula dean and also in the vicinity of the old inactive International Airport these areas were like near to or a battlefield during the military campaign civilian areas had. Land mines were planted by help his forces and. By the russian medicine is from the bag group and they killed dozens of innocent civilians who were impatient to return home immediately after the end of the fighting now and the city of lahore now there are also other crimes that could be considered by the Team Including the. Kidnapping and. Disappearance of civilians those poor pose the military will have to dispose of the question now is whether or not other crimes in tripoli including the targeting of civilian areas including the airports ports and hospitals will be also taken into consideration by the i. C. C. Team come up and are the one who has that update from tripoli thank you just a bit of background 9 years in fact since the u. N. Security Council Unanimously referred reports of atrocities in libya to the i. C. C. Which granted judges jurisdiction to investigate possible war crimes and crimes against humanity investigation into haftar and his forces includes allegations of massacres kidnappings torture and mass burials also under the scanner alleged war crimes such as the bombardment of civilian areas as well as the targeting of hospitals and medical workers during the 14 month siege of tripoli by telephone hafter the i. C. C. Is also investigating reports of booby traps and improvised bombs planted in homes by hapless fighters as they retreated from the capital and said we will speak to the founder and director of the institute which is the 1st Public Policy think tank in libya on a Cell Committee regular contributor to our son and to syria and i say it would be i think no surprise if the i. C. C. Comes away from this and says yes we do have evidence of war crimes but then it comes down to what the i. C. C. Can actually do about it. Let me go really this is the question of libya over the last year or so of the chapter heading what to do how the or how did the International Community nobody. Really rehabilitate its image we should remember that during your. d remarks this fool team on somali being a disaster for libya it is were all kind of being put out of the spotlight and its really really dangerous enough on the farm iran and the International System that weve grown now for d over half a century d United Nations all that since the world can now theres been notice that the governor of the local or the general was brought to life. By the more haitians and it was not defended or the motivations i mean after that that went before 2 months without any sanctions against any criticism of the lateral connection of this isnt the 1st line you know i. C. C. In his investigation up there has special forces commander the east of the country mahmud who a friend is the 1st theyve been invited by them there are as you see. There are similar problems today that in fact if the war this week in fact the anniversary of the kidnapping or been elected member of parliament and if the company who criticized tucker on television or clinton or in these countries and again nothing to be done since its really a reputational damage part that can be done but theres very little that licensing can do in the absence of a little weve told before about the various sides in this conflict or should i say the 2 sides in the conflict and the various other countries who support type aside does the i. C. C. Investigation follow that as well as some countries are just saying this is not a certain be happening that this investigation should be going ahead. Well if we use the un and the e. U. As a measure of these kind of protections that are almost what they are that needs a National Level if they couldnt reach one of the Un Security Council and a veto at the European Union so any of the members of the foreign here as for the Council Members or any of the 28. 00 members that is other members of the e. U. To choose to be a statement or a sanction or d e or arent as i mentioned one levels actors libya well it all falls apart and it seems as though shrunk and the russian have interchangeably d people who are in these kind of meters of its almost kind of diplomatic immunity for the last several years d not something that we can think of when it comes to the i. C. C. Who can make a statement but really again it requires the will of or the need for states that have the capacity to bring them to so i cant articulate in france in fact there are a crimes of being investigated by the french course the mess that. Theyre all of the way to know them and that could be something that happens to you a row for example have support. From civilian market when its only happening in the United States what kind of doctor is there investigated for war crimes that there is going to a local court in the county in virginia because telemarketers of jewel american citizen so it can be done of them is that whatever that implemented no it seems that there is some much inertia and this is again as you sense not only have theres this is not his 1st word here hes been around for one year in the last 6 years has launched 2 failed attempts over 30 elected or appointed Governments International reconciles governments and it seems to be the same things over and over again i mean how does that concern with the virus that its moving left it is not you know his most i mean for any kind of a lot of the city so its very very strange at the moment because it wants a lot of question marks all over the world of. Him and hes investigate some of the crimes one of which we should forget that were living in a part of a pandemic and. True belief was that the 3000000 people or. So many people will forget and just become in what is largely a war. Theyre all since every war and it wouldnt be the 1st and certainly it wouldnt be the last question is whether itll be international. If usually. The ordinary run in the middle. Of the international has a few more lines and so committee some really good context there thank you so much free time to appreciate it well with over 14000000 cases and nearly 600000 deaths worldwide from corona virus there is now a growing concern about those numbers being a lot more conservative than we thought some countries are now estimating higher rates of infections than they previously announced for example today weve heard the president of iran which is already the west affected country in the middle east saying 25000000 people may have been infected which is more than a quarter of the population and is a far higher number than official counts the difference being it includes people who showed no symptoms. To get a view of our own home will have one of the most important matters is that here is to medical recommendations and social distancing to limit the spread of the corona virus according to the ministry of health estimates 25000000 iranians have been infected with the coronavirus so far and we have lost about 14000 of them within 150 days. It is possible that 30 to 35000000 citizens are risk to be affected in the coming period this means that the number of patients who would be hospitalized will double it is possible the virus will continue until march. In india now where scientists have also estimated higher numbers of infections this is a survey from the Indian Council of medical research which is at the end of april point 73 percent of indias population which is 1350000000 people dont forget may have been exposed india supports the 1000000 mark on friday but experts have warned that number could be much higher just what were saying here is that when you look at the map and when you look at the numbers it is a conservative estimate you know this map very well from the Johns Hopkins university 14000000 confirmed cases 40087000 and the number of deaths worldwide is approaching 600008 could be so much higher than that but these numbers are the best snapshot that we have at any one given moment well lets hear from same buster of you now with more on those dramatic claims from iran by president rouhani. This alarming hard to believe number comes on the 1st day of return to lock down to a lockdown situation here in the capital tehran after weve seen a Record Number of deaths from the coronavirus pandemic in recent weeks now in the hours since this meeting took place in the hour since the president made this statement about 25000000 people potentially infected number that he said could turn into 30 or 35000000 in the next few months there was clarification from the secretary of the Science Committee on his taskforce and this gentleman put out a statement saying that the number that mr rouhani was talking about reflects those who were tested and showed signs of having antibodies and those were people that were potentially asymptomatic for the covert 19 virus and were not hospitalized he also made the point of illustrating that actual figures of infection and death that iran compiles that it then sends out to the World Official confirmed figures those come from people who are hospitalized and are tested positive in swab tests for the covert 19 coronavirus now what we see here the figure that mr rouhani is talking about perhaps a better word than infection is its the total number of people that have been exposed in the country to the coronavirus now whether he misspoke or whether this was president Hassan Rouhani trying to fire a warning flare to illustrate iranians that remains a serious problem that they have to take the threat of the coronavirus seriously the point that the president made today either way is that iran has been and remains the worst affected country in the middle east. With us now on skype from newcastle we have molecular biologist. And associate professor in cellular and Molecular Sciences that Northumbria University nice to have you with us. The the underestimating of numbers i was making the point for hopefully you heard it that the numbers we have are only what we have reported is there any way of getting even just a ballpark figure on what the real number could be or does it come down to even how you want to measure it. And they all have. A number of complexities associated to getting the correct number the 1st one has to do with how you were testing for example in your report just now it was mentioned that to learn to body test was carried out in iran that allowed them to estimate this for the problem 1000000 number we can know from the 1st 2 weeks when people started putting the availability of antibody tests that out these are not necessarily precise enough to be able to tell apart the 4 common flu viruses from the covered 19 virus and as a result of that having not seen what exactly the techniques used in iraq are accomplished to comment on whether or not the 25000000 is a lot of our estimation a lot but based on what weve seen in the rest of the world where weve we we have a prevalence of activities of no more than 5 percent of the population being exposed i would hazard that this number is perhaps a little bit exaggerated not necessarily an overestimation. Skew about the issue of asymptomatic patients people who are not exhibiting any symptoms but do. Have or have had 1000 how does that fit into reporting. Yeah these individuals are very very very difficult to. Pin down simply because they have no reason to go out and report to play missions to doctors the nurses to 15 and pharmacy sapho of course centered on service until the very much more or less likely to be tested so were going to see them only if theyve been exposed the body has responded to pronounce them out and then theres an antidote because id be like well they really impress them to talk about carried out on the comeback as a positive about subhuman the test thats correct and critically assuming that these us into amount of individuals respond in the same way symptomatic individuals which is not something weve pinned down yet then we can start saying oh ok we can pick them up but what we do know is stuff theres another component to the years for the socalled t. Cell immunity which is actually really really important and we just dont have a straightforward way of testing for this as we do with these antibody tests so i would be very cautious in interpret any information regarding our symptomatic individuals from the fact the raw data that show that these individuals can transmit the virus so whenever theres been a situation where people are actively tested in the household or Something Like last one of the household has how the virus or is actively having an infection and they pick up some of it was i symptom of a copy for developing symptoms theres actually data showing that these people can transmit right so its just experiences that is not in you know effects as one more thing i want to ask about and im almost reluctant to do so because its kind of the last resort theory but it is the idea of herd immunity which seems to be what people default to in the end well if we cant control it then i guess a whole lot of people will get it and there will be some sort of level of immunity that to me sounds like a risky sort of option to be thinking about can you expand on it. Yeah so. We havent got any robust evidences yet regarding to what is protective in terms of unity not necessarily about how much of the population it is because of it but what is the munity that needs to be that this protective so who dont know how were going to be protected from the virus let alone whether or not boxings will work. How could we possibly turn around and say lets just get everybody exposed if the virus like the common cold virus is forgotten by our immune system within about a year were going to be back to square one in a years time and thats why one is not necessarily the Economic Impact but the societal and the Health Care Impact where hospitals run out of care beds where people are incapacitated from work where some people may have socalled mild symptoms that still mean you cant walk to the toilet and take months to recover and they cant go to work for cant provide for their families really this is this is not an option and im im im really. Disappointed that people that we call to this this system will containable the system possible to stop but what we need to do is take hard decisions you know make careful actions inform the public and sure the. Incorrect information is not disseminated and we try to stop transmission it has been done new zealand discovered free vietnam has hardly any cases the right mix of china there are a part of the world whether economically developed or not the have been able to do this so lets do the right thing great reality check there with. Not just joining us from new counsel thank you sir to appreciate it youre very welcome. The president of the European Council has offered a compromise to break a deadlock over a coronavirus Economic Recovery FundCharles