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ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 69 July 13, 2024

A moment to work pretty much the opposite where retreat from the world could actually save every generation has its moment. As ours. Climb up into the 1600. Instead of the new we could sense the bullet the brain of virus athletes and just missiles pleasant even care about 90 but question. In just a moment as cool as we care about were used in Government News as well aids and the cheap. And jumping the commits which no points if you. Want to reinstate you. How are you i med and and i me editor of are you on watch which is a bilingual publication ogust real from the us and elevating their perspectives soo good to have you not feeling well thank you for asking and i need to welcome to the stream. Rag. I am originally from rio but im living in southern brazil now or have a medical degree which i have never used i am a freelance translator and mother are here here and here you sit there against this and other ways that you here in just 2 years there not really is muslim we are. Just somalia he is a journalist yes starter who was the voice of the need in our mind not. In the voice of dr peter those who knows what those words are right now so the medical. Studies. After the 1st cases social isolation was recommended by the states governor but the nice 2 weeks people went back to the streets and now we are seeing are rising the number of patients that need it to the hospital and also increasing the amount of severe cases it turns me especially because this is the same a nation is now corey. Is arses another huge issue here is the lack of days to assure today they have ailing private hospitals but they are expensive and in the Police System when the tests are available the results takes a long. From. We see human split the scene for happens and its dealing with 19 and you would think. We did. What they were doing very poorly horribly or not prepared most cities are not prepared at all the government is definitely not doing what it was supposed to be we had time we have been more and we have examples from italy and other countries where if things were. They were a couple steps ahead of us so we knew we kind of knew what to expect even though conditions are different than the graphically speaking and socially economically speaking but we had no idea what was to come and nothing was done anyway which is why were in this horrible condition right now there are a lot of people dying of course and most of the people who are dying are the poor people which in brazil means that theyre black so it is a kind of there is a kind of political background to it all i have to include in this speech and that you wanted to see in this instance on its. End and is a reason why you wanted to summits im going to show it in a leaky gets help. Well look you know this isnt this is this is a shot that was taken in which is and it brings it into the rio its in real estate and i think i mean this is sort of just pretty emblematic of the social inequality thats been present in rio historically but now is really coming to the forefront of this pandemic so youve got here a job here who is taking his day off almost as as a holiday armors working from home presumably and you have someone delivering the a bike delivering groceries which is a common often informal position here or it is more it is its a good day laborers you see that really cant afford to take work at home so. To me this is this really shows you what the effects are and the disparities in terms of who who could be told to actually maintain the effect of cornton measures without going hungry or without facing economic difficulty and thats the kind of inequality youve seen in brazil more broadly but in rio specifically i think is becoming a rebel. It wasnt i was in iraq contin strange turn of the when he wanted mickey went straight. Thank you very much to man hi everybody my name is also in some of journalists a lot of use today which is the biggest so far news channel here in brazil and i go for International News current affair going to turn some programmes and stuff so im here sorry for the delay we have been some everything its all about right now not oh not a problem a 21 start with a sweet because we. Were talking to them on. Watch and this is one perception people are deep in our perceptions that someone literally see it as a threat model is and thats whats wrong where we absolutely need to wash everything. We just continued he didnt even read the behind the scenes even other things tonight by the press and by waffling lets say you are the press i dont want to hear. What well i think one of you see we say that to the treasurys divide is just because maybe theres emissions are coming from our storage fees are mixed up a bit of the president Say Something and the minister of health say theres Something Else different very different the president didnt do that i mean it seemed to have always been more apparently more moderate with the a fresh start the crisis on the economy than with anything else and the Health Authorities of course they are were already at 6000. 00 deaths were reaching. 100000 banks in this country and theres what he was saying there as well. Where such an unequal country that of course this sort of problem its much harder those who have less and other dot debts we have an economic crisis a Health Crisis and a political crisis in the country and less now or at least the sort of a perfect storm that. Going on and if we have a president who is like the. Poor from denial big pull very difficult to tackle such a problem so i think that we are really leaving some sort yeah and dresses very hard to i like the problems to highlight the depths of the this crisis but at the. Core basis of the president is im sitting here to listen to their say that we do nationalistic we dont want to do the people and we are not so that in addition to the problems of the economy which is quite weird in this moment in time. I have science if i mean that i know. The tweet that you showed balance actually that was the friend i had my friend who. Hated me to participate on the show and if i may translate his twitter handle to you it means that has already killed 6000 people because there arent any sex either beginning of the saying hes sad that this is just a little flu thats exactly what he said its just a little blue and now its a little flu has killed thousands of people and its it doesnt look like its going to get any better the opposite to be honest were still expecting that the peak of the whole thing which has been stalled in a lot of places because theyre weak people initially a dear to the parents and they were staying home now anymore and partly because he went to t. V. And said this is nothing you should go out you are cowards if you stay home this is these are his words people who are these are not still is the battle gets between many groups especially those. The president about yes well. Its off. And then you start. And its a battle between the president and medical professionals but almost any more broadly between the president. And state and city governments he so his with his rhetoric every time hes come on t. V. On x. And given a pronouncement basically saying with the g. C. Just you know calling it a small flu or a little the other word uses like the sniffles. Basically send people back to the streets you had because theres a has better actually has a certain number of Data Tracking technologies or actual g. O. P. President ial tracking measures theyve actually been able to map people going back out into the streets after his speeches so even though you have state governors trying to employ. Measures and being fairly effective in terms of trying to lock down their cities every time the president speaks so its not in the policy but its his rhetoric itself that is conflicting directly with their currency. Theres sure enough as an illiterate emission is let it go darling im going to say its a sort of indicates it has been. Yes but just to to to sure how true it is like this question whats going on between science and this one ability should and his are called ways. This country have seen i think its one of the few countries and in the world that weve seen in the broadest industries. Disregarding the signs that say no we want to go back to work and the president is very has been very eager to jump in this book is saying that you know maybe governors they dont want us to restart theyre going to be so thats their fault go past they have to do something because Everybody Knows the broad that the economy is facing but the way the president is behaving like a he is giving up his responsibility this bill to get hard and those short years are the governors of the year so if anything bad happens we know that but things are happening if theyre thought mind we just wait were. Talking about bad things happening i have seen images coming out of brazil of mass who are against and im not sure and its very easy to to some peaches lindsey who are just that was 0. Donors he changed these pictures that were about to show that she didnt think of. This is incredibly sad is shows how unprepared we were it shows how all. Danger is the president s speeches and the whole narrative has been building is for the country and the you know what the main thing is that he went to well he didnt say it actually but his network on the web sat whats act which is the main map in africa used in brazil its right now its probably the most commonly used means of communication in the whole country and there are these stories running about saying that all these coffins were empty. That this was just a ruse by the press to scare people to keep them and hold them to keep them from working to keep the economy from jumpstarting and people are actually. Forcing authorities to open the coffins because they actually want to see that their loved ones are actually dead in the coffins and of course as help spread the virus the of course has caused a lot of pain nothing good is coming out of the federal government him at all and the funny thing is that he keeps blaming the governors and. Mayors and so on but the phrase he used he said i dont want this on my shoulders this is not my fault he actually said all of the things that we mention the he said he actually said those things which is unbelievable and at some point with the day he said so what when people told him well there are thousands of people dying every day and he said so what what can i do about it thats not all me these deaths i dont want these stats on me which is ridiculous if you consider that he has defended or paid homage to torturers from a dictator the years of dictatorship in the past so those deaths are a k. For you you can use you keep saying he keeps saying that dictatorships killed more people but now its your responsibility to take care of these people that are for them Decent Health care and crew get prepared get your country prepared prepare more beds trained professionals and now you say they dont want the stats on you it doesnt make any sense this is us speaking and when he cheated or things. He was speaking of and did and. What was behind that. Holding up. Those mentions to. Make because of the nature of coronavirus obviously i mean this is weve seen this all over the world that people can actually attend funerals Burial Ground cemeteries etc so the surrounding this now i mean use the word nigger politics earlier. And thats exactly what it is i mean its the control over who lives and who dies and its its devastating to see because its a study from come out more recently declaring that its likely that under notification of cases. And deaths even in brazil could be Something Like 12 times less and what that what the actual official figures are so what were seeing youre seeing deaths being diagnosed as acute respiratory diseases or is suspected of colvin but very comparatively few actually diagnosed as cope and so its still even though it seems by the official figures that we havent hit the peak yet its behind or how this its very clear that theres a massive crisis going on people are only now starting to if they are actually now starting to understand whats happening. Well if youre as i said as colleagues and youre going in a muscle you can actually it is just just just isnt one second such action and what you already know. Is hes. From this implicit so what im sorry what do you want me to do you my middle name is messiah at work miracles need this is what im saying. As to. What a well its not my job which was about Prince Charles and and he was making huge amounts of. From 1700 guests so well. Come to. Groups each. Joining the 8 friends once you know. People in the system one thing is even. So these are the more informal odds of him having ever. Please a so its its frustrating and i think the most important point to make here in response to this question is that the have eleazer help themselves and these are what activists here organizers who have been scrambling rushed to and actively organizing to get ourselves out to get into lets get it in from so detergents hanson it ties or its Potable Water and supplies to help already because theyre so accustomed to the absence of the state so while the government has been through. I think its its really important to highlight the work of the organizers as well residents and thats that the lack of a coordinated federal state and City Response is the having the poorest communities in brazil the hardest hit but since have all risen so used to this theyve been stepping up that said that issue right now i think the worst the propellers have been actually monitoring suspected deaths often treating them as confirmed deaths. Thats comparable cases and tracking this for the corner of irish throughout rio actually watching their own debt initiatives their own awareness raising campaigns to try and fight back because it is not going to help for the state Health System that that i mean this is a this is a disease that swept through the rich areas of the city in rio 1st rate it started in the wealthiest zones and its only recently made its way up to the north and west zones and through the developed of the south so we even though now people i mean you look at hornsey in education up near me i live on the on the sort of the crest of one of the larger bells of the city you see that now and it looks like a normal day rate people around about affairs or maybe. Its shops are open where is it was the southern zone that effectively actually washed down and was able to deal with this early on but well if there are no such condition to do so by their. Own leasing to. The muslims. About what his diocese nation. Doesnt want and then im looking at the busy and reported hope a split weekly magazine then says the distance. To 2022 is removed all that means that he supports what you are with. He does not mean sinise is economists and this is you still dont want people im not not as a prince to the current one. Muslim who has been calling for this review slow vertical look there how for weeks now unfortunately the Supreme Court gave the governors the right to go ahead with a total lockdown the single orders that allowed carnival street parties to go on in february knowing full well that 19 was among us. The Mainstream Media just like trump just like brake the car and accept that he won the election just they just want to bring him down wasnt he silly comment i have to say this really just sort of weve got them here in indiana in terms of one side of the bed in another sort of. This is a description of the present most normal ignorant radical a thug mentally unstable is the worst in the other happened into the rain forest but will it be a real threat or it goes on and on i think you get the gist of what shes seen not the bulls for the present in 20 well. Yes this is there is something still amazing still really. 3 we have almost absurd for me to his ratings are still not high but at the same time because hes been trying to collate the character of the one great nationalists. A leader in the country and the one who is fighting all these mighty powers of the Mainstream Media has he loves to call it as his friend donald trump in the states but its amusing because a few years simply the mashie movie see whats happening in the world when we see this reporter who is an economist talking about or the swedish approach of the crisis that the president was defending is something that if we see the figures also of sweden it doesnt match because it didnt work there its not working no way its going to be working here where he talked about part of all thats a good point because of all the lead thousands of millions of people to the streets in february in the main cities of the country but in the city than in february here in brazil beginning of february i think that nobody had dicks active mention of the crisis that word was coming from asia and reaching europe it just started exactly with people that were coming back from their heart of these people that left brazil forgot about it didnt want to be here in the carnival they went to europe they werent wealthy people who went to europe went to the states or Something Like that and then when the make that brought with them also the that this is the country so. When the blame on the governors for the guy was not right if you know we that the carnival example was a really good time to have these a lot of people on the streets but no i think that were starting to see also some other figures in other polls that showing that his support is a bit less than it was late june weeks ago Something Like that and do as i said it really did look right as you fired his Justice Minister who was the future that respective by Many Brazilians and now we have this perfect storm going on i dont hope what the outcome will be but i think its going to be lots of suffering till we reach the point. Again you need to be intelligent he thought you must answer that tootsie classy since aside from the economy what is motivating people sanaa lathan. Sure to sort of quit and quickly i wanted to just highlight something that marcello touched on the one of the priests deaths from coronavirus confirmed in rio was actually. A maid who was working in the house of a wealthy southern zone owner who had recently returned from italy and with undertreatment for suspected cove it so i mean what marcello is saying its directly into this i mean this is this was the well for you coming back from abroad bringing it with them and then that bein

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