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A bitter debate between the 2 countries. Here on k. K. Road built the long haul you know cape. Athens over the right back got it right for. The film were about to show you 1st and in 2007 it questions a policy thats become even more contentious today. The Sonoran Desert in the south of the United States a harsh hot and unforgiving landscape straddling the border with mexico a natural barrier not so much a protective wall but a regional belt dividing the bodies of 2 nations. Thousands of it. Legal migrants cross into this area of arizona every year to them it represents a gateway to a better life. In reality its often a cold glint of death from which they may never return. Crossing the desert to avoid these steel and concrete pools which mark the border in urban areas where on a main road like this would look for people. Anybody out here they could be standing on the side of the road of saying have made it this far need help. Little the. Volunteer Catherine Ferguson and physician norma price are samaritans. Rescuing those who are in desperate need of help illegals youve been physically and mentally defeated by the deadly conditions people walk not only trails but they walk in circles because theyre lost so you can have a child walking out here you could have a man a grandmother or you could have a group of people and all im doing is looking for anything that looks like a human being. But katherine and norma arent the only ones on the lookout had. Their part tell 1st 2 groups to help us the United States government has. As many Border Patrol and Border Patrol back up as there are stars in the sky. In an attempt to secure its borders the Current Administration is spending billions of dollars on enforcement money many argue is doing little to stop the human traffic merely rebooting it since theyve closed the ports it forces people out into the secured. Desert and people are dying so. It is supposed to send a message back to the villages and mexico that if you cant carry on die out of the desert its a policy of death. They really dont know what theyre facing i mean they dont know how hot and dry the most of them if they have been here before they dont know about the desert and mostly women and high heel shoes are wedge issues and they all have one bottle of water and in this environment that is so hot and dry and death or. If they need if they have a degree of. Illness they need to be in tech my hospital me and the heat literally just coax the more brain the heart the kidneys we see a lot of pregnant women and that also. Increases the risk that theyll get into trouble. That the worst saddest of all course is the children and we see a situation where children. Bought for those making the passage its a terrible choice a gamble really face death and avoid capture or seek help even if that means deportation order. Are not. Ahead in the distance emerging from the scrub stands a solitary figure this decision has been made paying with his life is too high a price for passage to the promised land. And i want. To. Put us there. So most somebody tunnels almost a night. Frightened disorientated and exhausted his story is like so many of those left behind when he couldnt keep up with the group. But the specialist put in enough that almost made me think. Of what will be a. But it could be any i can assist. And they will i think they never. Mean by that but if. You want us to. Think. It all. With and. Let me tell you that. I found myself in hawaii or in the. Opening up of what i had been committed to would a limited marches and. Just been yes they want me to be and to for you before you. Move. Through woodruff. And saw the media. Thinking. The samaritans presenting him with his options but his face betrays the. U. S. Who sent me the wrong. Play the federal. Law is off to a see us nor means the samaritans can do nothing but call the Border Patrol placing illegal in their own car would mean a possible jail sentence anybody that gives them a ride would be arrested if theyre caught we cant do that they could spend 5 years in prison for transporting. And 10 years for conspiring against the United States government. With little time to collect his thoughts and belongings hes arrested by the Border Patrol. This is a 1st time blow up the mill and i think you stand back literally like you are there. And. I apologize for america theyre really nice americans here those guys were nice. But if the authorities appear to be taking a hard line theres a reason for their lack of hospitality the truth is many who attempt to cross illegally will do so again and again until they succeed. Means 0 tolerance. Your. Life. As you well. They have warned oh my goodness these are human beings were dealing with intelligent feelings since you know beans and we cant give them socks or water theres something very wrong with that. We have a schizo frank sign at the border where this big sign that says keep out and at the same time metaphorically we have the sign that says help wanted we have theres a tremendous number of jobs we have significant sectors of the economy that need large numbers of low skilled workers that were not producing in the native born population and there are no legal channels for those workers to command and therefore the only way those workers can enter in large numbers its illegally. Judith is an academic and an immigration ex but she knows the statistics speak for themselves since 2000 people have been entering at the rate of about 850000. 00 a year there are currently an estimated 12000000 people in the country illegally and thats a huge number but the other thing is happening is that immigrants are going to what we call nontraditional states commune. It is all over the country are suddenly waking up to find large foreign born populations in their midst in their schools and it seemed like it happened overnight and people assessing wait a minute whats going on and theres a feeling that the system is out of control which in fact there are Serious Problems with our immigration system. A series of fences dotted along the 3000 kilometer border between the United States and mexico were designed to stem the flow of Illegal Movement in urban areas based on current estimates the system is a failure. The walls have not been an effective deterrent theyve changed their way and the cost and getting it at the time of the fence was put up in california the assumption was that the desert was too difficult or an environment in the desert with itself would be an effective wall and people would come in through that ask them that that has turned out to be false people have come into the desert and as you know a lot of people died trying to cross. Despite this the walls will continue to go up with president bush signing off on the secure fence act in 2006 approving the construction of a war stretching 1000 kilometers on the other side of the fence the lure of the american dollar appeals to both citizens the Mexican Government like mexico benefits tremendously by having its workers here. Remittances money being sent home by mexican citizens working in the United States to their families in mexico its the 2nd largest source of foreign currency in mexico that lessens the social pressure within the country so mexico in a real way doesnt have a huge incentive to stop this its. Over doro all she can see is a separation barrier which has divided her family. But i. With the. By the only book people. Im on of the but ive been there and love him more. Than not but without legal status one can move between the 2 countries so for the past 14 years he hasnt seen his family in mexico. Both. My years in berlin want to tell me i mean you know now you see a lot imo and. You know their youth. Well i want to. Its a sacrifice millions have been willing to make. Many more. To follow. Their. Mexico a country of more than 100000000 people but more than 40 percent live below the poverty line for so many that poverty line here of the border with the United States. On the other side stands. Employment and dreams of earning a high old way. But standing in their way a group such as this. This is american Border Patrol u. S. Citizens doing their bit to keep illegals out. The organization is led by Glenn Spencer his arizona ranch sits directly the border thanks to glenn anyone can patrol it via the internet. This is one of american Border Patrols remotely operated border cams this camera is wireless and operated by solar power. So really you could run this camera from your home in new york to watch the border so that we can have thousands of americans watching the border was real vigilance 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Glenn says the u. S. Government secure Border Initiative is a disastrous failure and hes compiled hours of video footage to prove it this is the most highly policed area in the country right and we could walk through even in daylight with a huge atomic bomb on our back. And they would know and they could stop it if they wanted to but they dont. I will bet you there are at least 60 illegal aliens holed up moving through the river in the washington right now you have to understand this goes on for. 100 miles of the United States border. All along youre now people say well i dont see anybody well they dont want to be seen and to make sure they are being seen american Border Patrol is spending millions of donated dollars on surveillance equipment this is our border hawk you avi u. A. B. Stands for Unmanned Aerial Vehicle and basically its not a lot different than a Remote Control airplane except this has a computer inside of it if lies by itself. And underneath it down here this is our little pan and tilt system here this is one we designed it had built for us and this allows us to look around 360 and i interrogate a target as it would be called where you can look at some and stay on it as the plane is moving a former military man mike king knows how to catch the enemy so when the federal aviation authorities stopped him flying on mind aircraft he simply changed tactics plan b. Was to buy real airplanes and so we did we purchased a cessna 2 to a 6 and we get a lot of video that way its been of extreme effective tool for us to gather intelligence on whats happening on the border what you train your eye to see in the bush is you start picking out pretty easily as you fly along or especially the south side as theyre staging. There are aspiring illegal aliens at that point there is a lot of it you dont see it because they dont want to be seen but theyre everywhere and we 1st got a thermal camera put on the house and i turned and i swung into the south just looking into mexico there are people down there and the next day there were people down there and the next day there were people down there and that every night i was catching groups of 2030 walking just west of the property here for like 3 weeks straight for in 3 weeks i caught like 500 people i dont pretend like im not involved you know my my conscience when i see it happening you know getting into my country today and i call the Border Patrol so what them deal with that we dont go out and tackle anybody. This all may seem a little excessive obsessive or even slightly odd but considering that more than 3000000000. 00 u. S. Dollars is being spent on Border Security glenn showed aljazeera exactly where that money isnt going project now that. International border between the United States and mexico im now going to step into mexico. And here we are. Self of the border. Down mexico way. This is the 1st line of defense for the United States against an invasion from the rest of the world it may stop some but not many come much money were spending on defending the borders of iraq. And our borders are wide open. And the government knows it wide open to drugs terrorists and weve proven that. And they know it. But there were being sacrificed on the altar of globalism and longer believe in the nation state they want to merge mexico the United States and canada together and if a few 1000 people are sacrificed in the process as just press. For many who have tried to cross and failed they rest receive medical treatment for cuts and blisters and then get ready to do it all again and here in the gallus in mexico people smuggling is big business for. Me. I stay as the theme of this man is a. He wont show his face because he imports goods from the United States but its human exportation and exploitation where the real money is a. Good they. Are not. Going to. Buy a. Place was a pleasure sandwich board as if we were getting god or. But there in lies the irony of the situation the legal route into the us is fraught with as many obstacles as a trek through the desert. Regardless of ones political allegiance regardless of whether someones an activist or humanitarian you cant. Turn away from those and i hear often i hear people say well i like the migrants i just dont like the illegal migrant or like immigrants just those who come in legally and i think these people are either extremely naive or. Stubborn or. Turning their back on the situation because theres no way these people can come in legally. Though as the saying goes do good fences make Good Neighbors many would argue its merely the symptoms that are being addressed not the cause and that is an issue for both sides of the fence i think a chain fall that a country as rich as mexico. Is forcing poor people to come to another country to work i would suggest that it is shameful that the president and mexico calls people who go to other countries illegally to work heroes. And i think its shameful that of both our countries that we cant get together and work out some sort of a sensible policy. Melissa owens lives with the reality of illegal migration this is her backyard it stretches as far as the eye can see well basically mexico is about 4 and a half miles right over that ridge right there this is due south. But shes seen enough of the problems and trespass as. I would say we would have at least one group of 15 to 20 people at least every night sometimes groups of men but sometimes women with children in their arms. Waking me up you know they have no idea what to do the last they just need help theyve been told by their guides their call your taste that its 6 months to where theyre going to get up to the top of that ridge and there this is the view they get to look out across the valley obviously theres nothing. But within the picturesque landscape melissas ranch resembles a fortified compound enclosed by rays a while to keep her safe and intruders out i had some men i dont know how many it was attempt to break in my house while i was here and they were actually kicking in the door. And i was so i was here by myself and it was it was it was not a good experience i think im pretty tough but i dont particularly want to have that happen again alone in such a remote environment melissa is prepared to defend herself and her property when i work away from the house i wear a small head and i have it on my belt almost all the time i wear it for protection i hope to god i never have to use this i dont like having to wear it doesnt make me feel. Powerful or important but on the other hand if im ever in a really bad situation i want to be able to defend myself. An emotionally charged issue that legal migration has polarized americans its an issue debated by. All additions thousands of kilometers away in washington d. C. But one which affects individuals at the border directly if i didnt have the greatest respect for hispanic culture i sure would have. On the here is a mexico border. Im not talking about race im not talking about nationality im talking about people who are on my land and in my country illegally i dont want. People i dont know walking across my land and i dont care whether theyre from finland or togo or white amala. I dont want them here its a small war zone. People dont know what it is i wish they would come here at the moment its very quiet with beautiful big clouds but at certain times of day their helicopters out here their horse patrols their a. T. V. s around their guys that look like darth vader theyre completely covered in black and they carry guns and theyre out here looking for people like the man we met today. Its another way to instill fear in america. Since this film. The us continue to increase spending. At no other time in history has there been as many Border Patrol officers on duty as there are today and now the authorities are bracing for a new challenge children since 24 the number of families and unaccompanied children apprehended at the border keeps skyrocketing young people are filling Family Detention Centers having fled poverty or extreme violence in central america. Today the border issue is taking center stage in u. S. Politics as u. S. President donald trump gets serious about one of his Biggest Campaign promises we will build the. Frank assessments the one good thing about these bush fires usage really was going out to all of the Climate Change informed opinions economy i think is actually whats keeping donald trump afloat right now critical debate sequel on posters going to been told what the law is on a bogus argument is astonishingly patronize a indepth analysis of the days headlines this is the beginning of the new iraq of the new conscious and aware use about still against an ethnic sectarian kota inside story on aljazeera one day i might be covering politics as usual and the next i might be protesting from serbia the hungry the whats most important to me is talking to people understanding what theyre going through so that i can convey the headlines in the most human way possible. Here and i just we believe everyone has a story worth hearing. 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