Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 40 20240713 : comp

Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 40 20240713

Pakistani foreign minister shot Mahmood Qureshi talks to aljazeera. Ill say ok and join the stream sunday marks the 1st anniversary of the worst mass shooting in new zealands history tax on 2 mosques in the city of question today as new threats surface we ask is enough being done to prevent such tragedies happening again with member you can share your thoughts by tweeting us at a. J. Stream or comment in our live chat add you to in the story. I think when it comes to things is sudden and is tragic and it is heartbreaking and its shocking is much last year time is immeasurable so. When someone asks me how does it feel a year later i often have to remind myself that it is a year later. Oh marsha 152019 a gunman opened fire inside the. Inquires Church New Zealand lifestream in his assault on facebook as he murdered worshippers one by one he went on to target muslims at the lynwood Islamic Center thats just 10 minutes away in the end 51 people lay dead another 50 wounded and thousands of lives changed forever a year on the scarred Community Awaits the conclusions of a government inquiry thats true in april and many victims still struggle with trauma joining us from new zealand to talk about this in christchurch tomorrow. He is one of the survivors of the mosque shootings also in Christ Church we have tony green hes a spokesperson for the Muslim Association of canterbury and in hamilton roman shes the spokesperson for the Islamic Womens Council of new zealand welcome everybody its really good to have you here before we even started our you tube conversation received can jump on to you tube and says who can forget that day and see that column right here it is highlighted in orange samar i know that you still think about that day a year later and you have flashbacks what is it that comes back to you over and over again. Of course is. Every time youre talking about. The 15th of march is the flashbacks off the. Gunmans shooting in to do over us. Remember the smokes coming out from the. Mission guns so. Thats the old wasted images to the r. C. T. Peoples it on me today who most days life and injured people so. Thats the flashbacks is always there we are seeing. That tragedy. And its not easy to forget and we can never forget thats and. Every time on this. We talk about that is. The shield nervous and. Struggling to do talking sometimes about it but i prefer to do told more. To publix to do. Tell about the stories and in our experience. In this time i had another not the easy way to do handle it for us and. Traumatize. Quite a lot from distributing thank you really presenting today being on the stream telling me. Im going to bring in tony because the most of christ put together this is how we are one night i want to show our audience what you can see as it is one year on the messages from the mosque in their own was no media here theres nobody breaking down what it was like for you whats telling your. Yes this is you tell me i recommend everybody go and listens to what you have to say as the spokesperson for these Christ Church mosque but here i want to stop off mocking im ok how is mocking one here later lets have a look lets have a lesson for me personally when the shooting happened if. It was my 1st year out of high school. And there was getting back on track him getting. Trying to balance the all the struggles they were already bear with being a firstly any sort of on top of having to hold this burden of trauma. Having to balance there and so i feel like a year doesnt really. You know or a doesnt really mean much because its been every day since for me. Tony you can just feel the pain as malcolm speaking there how do you represent so many people how do you speak for them how different is that like i can. Be as simple as it once its i cant help. But to cover a couple things that mucky speaking what we did was that we had a one day just very very 1st of the Media Training session that we capture people talking. And then the suggestion was well why dont we grab some of these people talking not mediated through media but actually speaking on their own just to speak in your own voice in your own words. And we feel that this is very very important i think all communities need to do this if you took one look at it and when we asked how the community is. Take monkey her father was shot in the back she was in the mosque with her mother so she was there and she went through the whole thing. Shes young girl shes not a kid a bright intelligent young go. But shes transition transitioning into university and shes got to deal with all of that and when you again if you ask about community mel in his case i have to preface this and i say very clearly i was not he i was not in sync in using it at the time now as a way of singapore so to speak i dont claim to be to speak for the community its a strange situation. But to most to most just to mels case i mean to moshe me pictures of his wounds down his left arm. He was right there in front of the mosque we know where people would pray at the mosque and thats why you can we can recognize something of what they went through and something of the missing people but you know he he has a restaurant he cant quite go back to that because you know you need you need both arms to cook you know this and then also just one more thing on that a lot of people like to mother carrying around fragments of bullets inside them and theyre getting regular tests or they had levels in the blood these things just that the ripples go on for a long time to know how sure are until theyve got multiple settles ahead of. Yes. I had alluded to floor surgery and 3 minutes on left and quiet. 3 different places the broken and i have a. Whole platoon in all my left. And also wont cross to the. Last surgery and last time when ive been in hospital so they did extra and its becoming. Is coming up theyre getting air up you know ball insists joint. And get stronger saw as tony said is yes. Fragments on my left and then i have to go to learn needed to test for newt poisoning and i have a quite a big muscles and nerve damage on my left saw a cut use my left arm properly but i do listen physiotherapy and had to hold my hands and my shoulders to. Get stronger and straight enough to before a big surgery may come on and off september all the lumber the doctors are planning to do this if so should it for my left hand wrist so i can play my hands and i can use my hands as you can see now we have to do a wrist old time today because in my hands losing my d. S. And i can hardly move and opening as you can see yeah thats it is you know as tony said i need my boots hands to using for. Cooking and the kitchen. Well in my hands and i have. Year every day every day years reminding me to. Look more months. When i brushed or to see. That it is average i have to tell had 9 bullets go into him and he extraordinarily walked out of the mosque at the end of that because you had some metal in your tif the police didnt go through the back of your head probably saving your life to the dentist and probably saved your life there was more about temple story and we will post it because you need to spend time with the story and hes spoken to many people about that let me bring into the conversation and jam i am looking at the Royal Commission of inquiry into the attack on Christ Church moss and im looking at this its not out yet but theres already some. Criticism about how this inquiry is being made what is the issue with it because its not even out yet. I think one of the feast. Of worry for us was the terms of reference who sit by the government without the ability to do so much on those references other all commissions of inquiry did the submission period with the terms of reference but this one didnt the 2nd factor is there isnt a Public Inquiry so hearings are behind closed doors which means a lack of transparency we have. Issues around there will be a court trial in june and maybe Medicine National security. But we still believe they could have sought security clearance from some members of the Muslim Community so that we could be present. For questioning some of the state agencies that was a concern for us we do have them the commissioners i believe that they will job the theory of consent for us is with or not the report gets published and well and that is a decision for paper not and the truth is not to release the report oh well in these very little lick the public can do about that in my concern as it leaves the public not just the Muslim Community but the people new zealand deserve answers to some. Very important questions and you will find out soon enough you only have to wait another couple of days and youll find out how deep the inquiry went and how many members of the community were actually used in that inquiry and experiences let me share this with you and this comes from the top on twitter and he said to us a hot summer mines are with those whose lives were lost because of the terrorist attack of year ago the question and i praise new zealand as and the Prime Minister that empathy. Leadership and also banning the use a semi automatic weapons and assault rifles and this is something that you have been campaigning for for quite some time it was almost instantaneous that reaction so if a saw a semi assault rifles what is it like a year later in new zealand so i just heard the 2nd round of Gun Legislation has stalled which is very concerning and we hoped bit stronger measures would be put in place after the initial history so we still hoping it would encourage the government and who in peace to vote for their legislation we certainly would and by the government response after the attack in the Community Response was made thing was part of the healing process where our community to everyone stand alongside us. So visibly after the attacks. But when youre on with joe made somewhere around hate speech laws we understand that the police with you know the recording of hate crime is really important we appreciate the work that is being done by the christchurch call but i believe we made stronger regular. Media social media platforms and companies and theyre. Going i just want to tell you this is from what were waiting and she says the man who tried to stop the Christ Church mosque amen said that his youngest son who was 5 still afraid to go back to the mosque after he saw the gunmen shooting at his father how do you go that mosque tiny whats inside. It takes time and it takes time i mean it has a set i was not there on the day people like to mail and there are plenty of them were rights like being sent of a come back but it it this healing thing you you you cant the the stark of hearts and you dont know how the arts are affected by those those things have been the you know. People whove taken the Young Children to the mosque in the then in that you go there with an intention every action has lamas just when tension you may get tension to go for prayer thats all you do youre not youre not messing around with anybody else at all and then that then when that happens for us in a bus for jews in a synagogue for christians in a church and a temple whatever it is when that is shattered then you can expect that to heal straight away because it did it shatters. It shatters a century what about security now all hands at a rally dont ask can you talk about that. In a limited sense we have taken considerable measures to read look the physical structure of the mosque the ability to get in and out security cameras we work very closely with the new zealand police. There is a significant change obviously the police dont speak about operational matters and nor do we its kind of like asking somebody to give you the Security Code for your house a lot more and if that is that right. We take it seriously but also we realise that it is very easy in the world as it is with people who make threats or you can make a threat against an airline and have no capacity to carry it out but the threatened Person Organization has to take it seriously. Im going to bring this back into the conversation because rizwan who is on you tube right now wanted to know about the mental support for people who survived the mall shooting and it sometimes thats a very hard thing to even discuss or talk about but how are you doing in terms of the way that you process the world is normal life possible or get. Of course is it is not going to be possible the same as before the 15th of march. Because. It was a social persons and made it active and then their love to do most of supports and. Go to the swim or. The socializing going to their rest their arms in their have fun with my friends are saying to us but the indians days of course is. A little bit there. Was a hard thing for me especially for me to go to do. To be joining to do. Same as before to. Find groups or to be go on out often. And have fun with them and mentally i have a. Professional support i see every week in my psychologist and then now i do. Programs. With by psychologist to get myself to be more to like it back to their normal life again. But it is their long. Term process things at the moment because of. What i was witnessed in the mosque that day. Is really. Difficult for me to forget and in my south in the normal life. At the moment you know. Mentally icon even my much awaited myself to go out to back to do my own shops to be run my business and work in the kitchen because physically and mentally its. Been a struggle to be. Can do on my normal life and in most of the time. Try to spin. Mark time saw inside you know show. It is not the. Going to be long. Term i had a picture of you and this is a picture of you with your Prime Minister just send a son and he came to visit us you were in recovery it makes me wonder about the leadership that new zealand is getting on this issue and im going to bring back into the conversation for this is something called Christ Church. Which really addresses the hate in the society that allowed this perhaps to happen islamophobia to happen for anybody to feel that they could go in where people are washing and then shoot them down and kill them so tell me about how you were addressing how losing limbs is actually addressing this issue of islamophobia so in terms of the christchurch quote the advice really was a. Trip to new york to speak to the latest dialogue the int. And. You know its been a great achievement to get to companies in government around the table to talk about the issues as well. As ations one of the problems is the. Hul itself is very limited to the extreme in its focused on things like the Live Streaming video. And depictions of violence and isnt really dealing with low levels of hate that lead and Violent Attacks and i think its quite difficult to get agreement on certain ashes for example what is a basic definition of terrorism that a Global Community can agree on i think we havent got the it. And certainly fear issues with the fact that all of the Bank Companies have come on board such as to go amazon facebook and twitter the small of platforms your 4 chains you telegrams and not signed up to the poor and we still may need to be done by governments to ensure that these into court rick rick election of what goes on and those spaces because uneasy just last week we saw 3 that was posted to a telegram channel it was usually up seizing and we understand a few of the letters were too scared to leave the harnes. Pussy from days after saying they. That great country so yes very good and i should have and its good to have so many countries coming on board its going to have those conversations present. Here need to be match more what it down and the space and we just can bring in like i just said can i just start going just out to comment on the 10 year olds gather left here. Just a couple things in the same meeting with angie and what we we had facebook people talking about what they were doing. One of the things they did not get their exact words but they had a definition of terrorism and they talked about Something Like that and not the exact words but Something Like a Nongovernment Organization acting in gauging a premeditated acts of violence against places of people in order to effect change and i said will what if you remove that adjective nongovernment see you say an organization that acts of premeditated acts of premeditated acts of violence and sorry to say this but i mean any government there you know the of the attack on iraq for example to use shock and awe this brings terror and its a premeditated act of violence against a one particular person. In this case Saddam Hussein to achieve a specific end now when you bring terror into a place we have i just feel that we are not sufficiently addressing where the whole business of hate comes from. The whole are going to be guarded here because we do have a trial coming up later on and therefore i dont want to speak in things that could be evidential in terms of doing opinion but we dont we we right now weve got coronavirus that people are going to Great Lengths to look at. The vectors of vectors of transmission of this to shut down. Trees italy and so on we dont apply the same rigor to looking at which a risen comes from where we reach comes from we really be seriously not jim i respond to that tourney and im just going to ask you to do in a sentence because im right at the end of the proud and make that sort in a sentence im sorry to rush but i had yeah i just want to agree with that because even some of the countries have signed up to the christchurch call the politicians of those countries have been using speech that really targets imagine ours is mine are shes a main character a sorry i didnt but that has to be taken seriously and i am just going to say thank you very much for just sharing what it is like one year after the question attacks and tell me tamil really appreciate the fact that you are saying that so

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